Ladner's Chicken Home to Roost
A few years ago, we wrote a number of posts decrying the lowering of standards for hiring CPD Officers. Background checks were sloppy, previous brushes with the law were disregarded, physical fitness standards were downgraded or eliminated (especially when Special Ed's kid went through). We predicted time and again that it would bite the Department in the ass one day:
- The Chicago police officer who shot an unarmed man at the Grand Red Line station on Friday was charged with assaulting a McDonald’s restaurant worker in 2015, less than two years before the city hired her to become a cop. Prosecutors dropped the case when the alleged victim failed to appear in court.
Certain clouted people "slipped through" the process in old days, usually for DUI arrests. Abbate never would have been hired if the actual rules were followed. Followed to the logical conclusion, if he wasn't hired, he wouldn't have been in a position to be in the bar, drunk, throwing haymakers at a bartender and being used as a club to beat the Department with, even today. There are others, some for more than DUI offenses. We'll spare you the details.
But in the days of actual background checks, before Tracy Ladner gutted and skewed the process at the behest of her political handlers....
Well, everyone will have to wonder if this one, with her short fuse getting her arrested in a fucking McDonald's Drive-Thru, could have made it through the process if (A) rules were in place and (B) those rules were enforced. Now there's a high likelihood she's the next clip played on the news to paint everyone with her incompetence for ten or twenty years.
But hey, what do we know? We're just some beat cops pushing a car overnight in Chicago.
But in the days of actual background checks, before Tracy Ladner gutted and skewed the process at the behest of her political handlers....
Well, everyone will have to wonder if this one, with her short fuse getting her arrested in a fucking McDonald's Drive-Thru, could have made it through the process if (A) rules were in place and (B) those rules were enforced. Now there's a high likelihood she's the next clip played on the news to paint everyone with her incompetence for ten or twenty years.
But hey, what do we know? We're just some beat cops pushing a car overnight in Chicago.
Labels: department issues, scandals
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
158 Comments:
Shit this department is looking for heads... no one wants the job— signed RETIRED 2014, enjoy your years on the job guys.
How’s about this... what year were the standards lowered?... and what year was the standards raised? Lol
Cut her some slack on the McDonald's incident. We've all wanted to reach through that drive in microphone and strangle someone when they tell you the shake machine is down again.
Happened to me two nights ago when I went.
Jonesing for Shamrock Shake? Denied!
White chicago police officer shoots unarmed black man in CTA station, protests continue for the third week.
Oh wait, my bad.
Nah, nothing to see here.
This female po was rattled beyond belief. She plain and simply shot a man who had both of his hands out, no weapons visible. Then she chased him up the escalator and shot him again. Let’s let this bad apple rot in jail. And I want zero of my dues paying for her defense.
I’m so glad I only have a few more years! This was once a great job and city. I now can’t wait to leave both.
Hmmm maybe Lander should have to pay the civil suit or whoever allowed this person to slide through. No way she passed the power test legit.
Almost funny (but not) how you can point this out over and over and over again to Chitcago media, dept bosses, city "leadership" but nothing changes. NOTHING....CHANGES. NOTHING! The incompetent still hire the incompetent or the down right dangerous and then the incompetent and some dangerous ones even get promoted, some even on a fast track. Unbelievable. Nobody that matters ever asks or tries to do anything about this.
The Chicago police officer who shot an unarmed man at the Grand Red Line station on Friday was charged with assaulting a McDonald’s restaurant worker in 2015,
Isn't that headline supposed to read "The BLACK Chicago police Officer who shot unarmed WHITE man......... Or does race only matter if it goes the other way when the Media writes the story? That's not to be a racially charged statement. It is about the hypocrisy of inflammatory rhetoric by agenda driven opinionated news reporting.
But seriously, other then her complete failure to do any hands on (on Video) She did utilize multiple tools prior to the shooting, verbal direction, tazer and O.C spray. The partner yelling "shoot him" may have been the largest contributing factor to think she was in much greater danger and that the male officer knew something she did not that justified shooting. Her previous arrest for assault having never been adjudicated in court guilty or innocent should be left at the presumption of innocence unless there is more then what is written...This whole case is a fuck up and the officer that did not shoot certainly esalated it. But you are also right this lowering (actually elinamting standards physical and mental have put some real idiots on this job..
If you read the statement from the guy’s attorney in the Trib, she blamed hiring practices, training at the academy and a lack of supervision. She may have even called out the commander of Mass Transit by name. Wonder when the lawsuit will be filed and how quickly the city will settle? It will never go to trial or the serious issues within the office of personnel and the academy will be exposed.
Very strange no one has commented that they know either of these two. Typically on here there’d be dueling comments on how great/bad they are in their regular districts...
If you’re acting like a savage, getting into fights with drive thru employees at all hours of the night, maybe that doesn’t show the best judgment to be a Chicago cop, or any cop. I had plenty of well qualified friends turned down for this job, never arrested, never did drugs, military men/women, never tried to beat the piss out of a drive thru teenager. All turned down for the job. But, this shit head throwing a tantrum in a McDonald’s drive thru throwing haymakers at the cashier? Hire qualified people, not those based on skins color and/or connections. Well qualified. The diversity, it hurts so bad.
Tracy Ladner was super quick to strip coppers with drinking problems. Even the ones who voluntarily sought help. Let that sink in. You go through EAP because you are seeking help and you Star and Shield are to be left at the door.
Heh...
So the little short-armed, rolly-polly Oompa-Loompa
diversity hire (courtesy of the ONE & ONLY Tracy
"Hair-On-Fire" Ladner) also has a "short" (Snicker!)
fuse as well?
Remember... It was "tha' communerty" that was howling
the loudest about "Poleece hiring standards are too
high and RACIST," therefore; anything remotely resembling
"standards" has been shoved out the window in the name of
"A Police Department that looks more like US" (no matter
how badly it's destroyed to make it happen)
This corrosive shit falls in line with the thinking
that Policemen shouldn't be highly intelligent because
intelligent Policemen pose a challenge to the powers that be.
Too intelligent = Too likely to think for themselves
= Too difficult to control = Too high probability to
do the right thing when a political heavy trips up and
trods the top few layers of skin off their pee-pee/
inelegantly throws a foot up their own pussy.
"It ain't what you did or didn't do,
it's the cover-up afterwards."
(Cover-ups in Chicago originate
from the top down...)
"Whoopsie!"
>Stumble? Crunch!<
"OUCHIE! IT STINGS!
Make the Cops cover it up so
I'm not exposed then throw THEM
to the wolves when it comes undone."
The ONLY way to begin righting the Police ship
is to go back to SOME SEMBLANCE OF STANDARDS.
The higher, the better.
Drug screen.
Zero tolerance regarding criminal background.
MMPI AND Wonderlic Testing.
Harsh physical training.
Basic "Urban Police Martial Art"
with an emphasis on "mean, tough, dirty and unfair"
alley-fighting techniques that center around:
joint crushing/bone bending/stomping/kicking/gouging/
slapping/punching/hair snatching/skin-tearing, fear and pain
instilling that IMMEDIATELY takes the winds of defiance and
resistance out of a subject's sails.
Not the current corporation counsel approved
hugging and caressing big, strong and vicious
Chicago street criminals (male, female and fluid)
into submission.
Policemen ARE NOT supposed to lose fights
in order to give progressives, sjws and community
members a feel-good tingle.
"HAW! Poleece got they ass kicked
and it's about TIME it finally happened!"
Defiance and resistance are the pathways of an assailant.
Make the potential assailant want NONE
of what The Police have in store.
"Be cool... You're CAUGHT and you're caught DIRTY.
Act like a gentleman, get treated like one.
Do the m/fin' fool and get treated like a fool."
Policemen are SUPPOSED to be aggressive, assertive,
combative, instinctive, mean, smart, strong,
survival-focused and tough...
Chicago is a mean, nasty, evil and vicious place
full of people who mean The Policeman nothing but
hurt and harm.
Policemen are supposed to be experts at surviving
it and staying true to the purity of enforcing the
Peelian Principles of Public Order, Public Peace,
Public Safety and the laws that govern them.
Everything else is a bunch of eye-wash, telephone
and bullshit...
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Tracey Lardner, yes we know how know how you rejected legitimate and qualified police candidates because they were related to police officers on the job but were not in your wish list of a certain racial demographic. Also SCC you may want to link this post to your post of Fri Nov 12, 2010 - The “Cop of Tomorrow”.
"Ladner's Chicken Home to Roost"
Tracey Ladner was the nastiest hen in the
City of Chicago coop.
She so deeply fucked up Human Resources
and fucked over so many good people who were
trying to hire on at CPD.
Supposedly she was thrown a bone after
her antics finally got to be too much
and she got herself fired.
She caught on with Shah PC:
300 S. Wacker Drive. Suite #250
312.344.3401
Heh... Wonder if she ever thinks about
the unnecessary grief she caused Policemen.
Maybe give a call and have a nice chat...
wasn't she automatically excluding those who were in the military or those who were police officer's children
Just goes to show citizens vote for people they know
nothing about. Also historically shows the people slated
are also substandard, to say it nicely, and have no clue
what they did, are doing or will do in the future to further
mess up this country our Grandparents left us in good
shape. Don’t worry though it’s only going to get worse
with the expanded gambling, legalized marijuana for the
highly (pun intended) intelligent and all the taxes the
elected genius have put in place to make life better for ????
She is just a reflection of society in general these days. You get the police department you pay (and vote) for.
Why should she care, she doesn't have to work with any of them. You can tell right away the people who care and want to work and the others who are lost in outer space. keep making excuses for people who don't belong on this job and this is what happens.
Well I think that the officer being charged with assault and getting on the job means nothing, how many time, doesn't sound like you did of course have officer's gone to a call and the complainant said he made threats to me or he pointed his finger in my face I want him charged with assault? Do you know the facts of the case?, Then don't judge if you are not ready to be judged
Well that honey bun diet sure as shit aint going to cut it.
Even the good guys are dancing around using force nowdays because of these jagoffs in office, in the Dept., and in society, so do yourself a favor and step back.
A ticket for changing trains aint that big a deal. Especially when the guy is twice your size. I probably knocked out a dozen people with one punch in my life but I also ran into monsters who could have handed me mine as well, and at least back then you could 10-1 the sharks in who would smell the chum in the water.
The city might throw them and their sheister 10G and the jagoff would be happy he got a few bucks with the 60 stitches for starting a fight with the Police. But now? With the Bernie and Biden bunch? The social warriors?
Forgetabout it. These maroons will make them millionaires.
So what is the plan to deal with the cironavirus? How is the city planning to deal with the hordes of homeless living in lobbies of police stations? Those homeless will be the first to catch the disease. And spread it. It spreads by droplet and aerosol means so nothing short of a sealed space suit offers any real protection. Also spreads by fecal matter. Cleanliness is about the only preventive along with isolation. How are you going to get the homeless to wash themselves and stop defecating in public.
Wait till CPD releases the rest of the discipline history?
This was a problem going back to 2011? And has been discovered in each Media investigation!
No one person is perfect but the standards of this job are now in the toilet!
Look at the upcoming run off of the FOP!
Do you think anyone at city hall will take the FOP seriously?
Who is her clout?
And still young college educated men of a certain demographic fail the psychological test.
We need PO’S like her so dept can promote
incompetent people to Deputy Superintendent
and call it history (lol) Chiefs and Little Chiefs
requires more Indians needed, at all cost.
It’s the Chicago way!
And yet you have people here defending them on the basis that the department failed them by pairing them with so little experience; that their training failed them - with little butterball jumping up and down like a dog humping someone's leg; that civilians should have rushed in to take the offender down. One poster referred to them as "kids". It's everyone's fault but theirs.
How smart does one have to be not to shoot someone who poses no threat in the back - twice - and not an instinctive double tap but spaced as the shots were? Sweet Jesus.
She does not fit the liberal media agenda. Did anyone hear any news media describe her as “BLACK female police officer shoots UNARMED WHITE man.” No outrage, no calls for justice, no marches. This will be covered up because we cannot have it change the narrative of the racist white cops killing black people.
I blame multiple merits like Pettis. I heard he was brought to HR to “push em through”.
These motherfuckers will sell their souls to get their bars, and he did just that.
And now the blowback. All these clouted candidates from back then, that used exempt bosses, alderman, community activists, revrunds, etc as references, who weren’t even close to being qualified, are off their probation. This is just the beginning.
“Push em through”. Gotta even out the numbers. Start with the best of the worst...assault with no arrest? Push her through! DUI x 2 , push him through! Repeat Domestics with the boyfriend/girlfriend? Who’s their sponsor? Push em through! Selling drugs? Oh, it was just weed? Tell him he’ll be in the next class. Push em through!
There are still some great investigators in HR who won’t bow down to the “push em through” ideology because they have some integrity and care about the product their putting out on the street. God bless them. But there are others who are afraid to lose their inside spots, and will “do what they are told” regardless of the (red-line) consequences.
I’ve been retired for a few years, but if I was still working, I’d warn all these new PO’s that you just don’t know who you’re sitting next to.
She (officer which you are referring to) also came from the same class as the Supt's kid. Never had to pass a single POWER test in the academy.
She was hired in 2017 and was working in mass transit??????????? Who is her phone call???????
Bet the MSM jumps all over this one. Was her mother who works for the CPD involved in any way?
Thats funny that she will fight over food but wouldn’t jump in to help her partner.
So , she has roughly 3 years on and she’s in Mass Transit ? God damn... I remember a time when it was hard to over there with 20 years on the job. This place is worse than the Titanic.
Over the past few decades, court decrees, policy changes, criminal history expungements, throwing out psychological profiling and the pandering administrations yielding to even more pandering court rulings has sent the department in a downward spiral. Anybody remember Chuck Percy, the former Bell and Howell exec who became US Senator from Illinois. He was the one who brought Prentiss Marshall to the dance. The old timers can tell you Marshall froze hiring and tossed eligibility lists back in the early 70s. That brought forth the Renault Robinson's and Ralph Metcalphs out of the woodwork and its been downhill ever since. I hope Marshall is burning in hell.
Tracy Ladner was gone before the "be the change" campaign. Tracy Ladner screwed up the last application process that had over 25,000 applicants in 2010. Military, law, cfd, regular applicants and more were disqualified before the process began. Ask anyone with 7-
10 years on the job. What a shit show that was. It cost me a lot of money and others to fight the city. And again, these disqualifications had nothing to do with psych or background. People,myself included hadn't even gone through the phases of the process accept for examination but Tracy and crew generated DQ letters
SCC,
That's SO good, man. I mean First Class, Top Deck.
They use the “that’s racist” against you....
Yet my son who comes from 2 generations of CPD and was a Marine Corp veteran was disqualified by Ladner for no reason al all. Under her “military and police family are wired differently” clause.
Just wait until Trump sees the clip.
This is worse than Eddie Johnson's drinking problem.
Ladner Sued - Second City Cop
March 2, 2013
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Tracey Ladner Fired - Second City Cop
January 25, 2015 - "Off topic but a shooting yesterday
morning at chicago and state. Druken argument leads...
How many potential police recruits were turned down by
that felon Tracey Ladner??? Good riddance you...."
Hey, before you know it, Oprah will pick up on this
story and make her a star. "Now tell folks how you
felt when that Big Bad Giant was coming towards you,
what was going thru your mind, how terrified you were.
In your own words, tell the audience how that was for you."
(OK, Oprah. We've heard of leading the witness, but this
is ridiculous.)
02:47:00 AM
Agree.
312.344.3401
Maybe give a call and have a nice chat...
Anonymous said...
Shit this department is looking for heads... no one wants the job— signed RETIRED 2014, enjoy your years on the job guys.
How’s about this... what year were the standards lowered?... and what year was the standards raised? Lol
3/06/2020 12:12:00 AM
Standards were lowered in my class of 1986, we had all kinds of felonious recruits of every ethnicity...
Ladner was an ass- but this officer was hired under WEST during City Halls massive push for bodies--when dope/criminal acts/bankruptcy/lack of verified job history/ being fired from jobs/not having steady employment/early military discharge/domestic complaints/arrests/gang affiliations/etc etc were all relaxed to increase the hiring. She and her point guy Pettis (now a merit lt despite open crs) were both rewarded with promotions.
NewsOne
(4 days ago)
In A Twist, Black Cop Shoots Unarmed White Man
In Viral Video
The Change is here and home to roost, LMAO! A pinch over 5 more years to go. The wife and I are already shopping properties down South. Enjoy the Consent Decree Chicago! You deserve it! My number 1 goal in life right now is to get my family out of this dump of a City.
Get ready taxpayers,these people are going to cost ShitCago big time! Dig deep Weasel, you asked for it and I guarantee you will pay for it!
With quality of the job on decline, low wages in comparison to suburbs, affirmative action, and more, this is what Chicago is destined to.
I remember when my Daughter took the test. Scored very well, but even more important, she has common sense, as well as brains. She had received a letter in the mail, that she was disqualified, because she missed a step in the hiring process. She was informed by the Department, that they had sent an E-mail to her, with the date and time, she was to report for the next step.My daughter explained to Human Resources, that she had never received such an E-Mail, at which time they told her to prove she hadn't. Of course she had printed out every E-Mail she had received, during the time in question, and sent it to the Department, via certified mail. A couple of weeks later she received a letter stating congratulations you qualify to take the next step. At this time she decided they could take the job and shove it. She since moved to Arizona, is a Human Resource Director with a great company, makes more money then she would have as a Police Officer in a city, that for the most part does not back the Police, and tells me she feels like she is on Vacation everyday of her life. By the way, she also has never been arrested, or for that matter ever received a ticket. As a retired Chicago Police Officer, I think she made the right decision.
Hey where are all the Illegals, ICE wants to know? You think the Demorats are hiding them, waiting for the election?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cut her some slack on the McDonald's incident. We've all wanted to reach through that drive in microphone and strangle someone when they tell you the shake machine is down again.
Happened to me two nights ago when I went.
Jonesing for Shamrock Shake? Denied!
3/06/2020 12:21:00 AM
Jagoff... you sound like one the shitheads who tried to assault family member at McDonald drive thru...Pos
Who hired and appointed Tracy Lardner to her position in Human Resources?
Maybe Tracy Lardner should be sued for hiring people who have violated the hiring guidelines. FOP should file the suit.
No one has read the shooting officer’s statement. Maybe she stated that the pepper spray was in her eyes and she believed that the offender had a gun on her partner or he got control of her partner’s gun so when her partner yelled “shoot him”. She believed that it was justified to use deadly force.
Still waiting for the news to publish the offenders rap sheet. Any previous resisting/ obsructing? When was his last arrest. Is he on bond and one of Evans Scholars?
Policemen are SUPPOSED to be aggressive, assertive,
combative, instinctive, mean, smart, strong,
survival-focused and tough...
Police like THIS have no friends.
I agree that we shouldn't hug a thug, but there are too many officers who treat EVERYBODY the same especially if they live in certain neighborhoods regardless if they are law abiding,tax paying, hard working, productive members of society.
And seeing how Chicago is a melting pot within a melting pot, yes the police should represent the BEST of EVERY demographic we have in the city; to say otherwise does make you a biggot and a racist.
The Dept wants Diversity 1/3 White, 1/3 Black, 1/3 Hispanic...
But seriously, other then her complete failure to do any hands on (on Video) She did utilize multiple tools prior to the shooting, verbal direction, tazer and O.C spray. The partner yelling "shoot him" may have been the largest contributing factor to think she was in much greater danger and that the male officer knew something she did not that justified shooting. Her previous arrest for assault having never been adjudicated in court guilty or innocent should be left at the presumption of innocence unless there is more then what is written...This whole case is a fuck up and the officer that did not shoot certainly esalated it. But you are also right this lowering (actually elinamting standards physical and mental have put some real idiots on this job..
3/06/2020 12:44:00 AM
Listen/watch the video again, she says "I'm about to shoot him" then the partner says "shoot him". Her voice is slightly muffled so its easy to miss it.
But seriously, other then her complete failure to do any hands on (on Video) She did utilize multiple tools prior to the shooting, verbal direction, tazer and O.C spray. The partner yelling "shoot him" may have been the largest contributing factor to think she was in much greater danger and that the male officer knew something she did not that justified shooting. Her previous arrest for assault having never been adjudicated in court guilty or innocent should be left at the presumption of innocence unless there is more then what is written...This whole case is a fuck up and the officer that did not shoot certainly esalated it. But you are also right this lowering (actually elinamting standards physical and mental have put some real idiots on this job..
3/06/2020 12:44:00 AM
Thank you F.Lee Bailey
is there a lawsuit?......another lawsuit pending?......anyone know?
This POS hated coppers, especially White coppers and eliminated alot of cops kids from the testing procedure saying they failed the Psych test. Well Thanks to Dan Herbert who took on the case blew it in court. He did no favors to these kids because he took thier money and was ill prepared to handle it properly. Ladner was finally launched and webtvri the County where she lasted a short time and was fired. CPD standards have definitely yielded some gad products.
Just “being the change.”
That’s what the future looks like, and it is here.
There will be a future PAC Man in the near future.
Tracy ladner got me on the job after human resources found out I owed a ton in tickets and I had been arrested for kicking this guys butt in a bar (I dont drink). They gave me the time to pay back the city for the tickets and overlooked the arrest and I have been promoted twice in my career non merit so for that I will always be grateful...that being said even slow ol me can tell the standards have dropped lately big time in the last few years...you got officers who cant speak English, cant write English, 40 year old career stay at home moms picking up a gun and badge, officers who have been arrested for drugs, and etc. Etc. I really have to council and watch some of these young guys and the problem is they challenge you on everything! One of my subordinates had the nerve one day to ask me if was merit after I told them to do something they didn't like! Lol I used to come to work chill go fetal and relax now I'm always on pins and needles monitoring the radio! Its completely wild out here. The department is also very young now when I first got on I was working with people with 10, 15, and 20 years on and I shut the heck up and watched and listened now you will be hard pressed to find a detective or sergeant with 20 years on. Well one good thing that's come from this massive hiring wave lots of cuties on the desk now in every district (in my Eddie Johnson voice)!
She was on the front page of the fop February magazine right? No one has really stuck up for either Officer because the video speaks for itself. What is in dispute?
Go to 011:
Be the change and the real police.
You see kids with three years on saying they are Fillmore Rangers. OMG - get a grip kid.
YYou all now watch crime on television monitors and have no idea how to conduct an investigation or talk to street thugs.
The true police of 2020.....
Here u see all the young know it all police that refuse to see the big picture on how the Mayor, City, Dept, COPA, IAD will throw you and your family under the bus immediately.
The youngsters in 011 just dont get it...
Gazette Chicago Endorses Bill Conway For State's Attorney -- Says Kim Foxx Mishandling Of Jussie Smollett Fake-Hate-Crime Case Is Disqualifying For Reelection - Gazette Chicago
https://gazettechicago.com/2020/03/endorsements-2020/
The man was a White Hispanic, which makes him Hispanic.
To the officer that does not want his dues used to defend her, a wise choice. Stop paying dues. Simple as that. It is legal for you not to have dues deducted from your checks. I can’t understand why any of you are paying dues. The FOP is stealing your money my bad there is the golfing and pizza.
Just curious is there not a question on the CPD employment application asking if you have ever been arrested? If so is did she answer that question? if she lied she will be very easy to fire.
To female po who was just stripped, sue the city for hiring you. You never would have been in this position if they had legitimate hiring practices, they knew you were unqualified but they hired you anyway for political reasons, now you could go to prison.
Ladner royally f@#ked up the lives of prospective officers. And if they were lucky if enough to get notified years later to start the process, they were f@#ked with again by way of psych, or failure to appeal bullshit. This started while Weis was the Supe and continue until the beginning of GMAC
2010 hiring campaign "answer the call" well, I waited for "the call" or the letter and It took 4 years. 4 YEARS after being told we were disqualified for no reason!
As the saying goes...you get what you pay for.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hmmm maybe Lander should have to pay the civil suit or whoever allowed this person to slide through. No way she passed the power test legit.
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Criminal charges should be brought against; Past Supt Eddie Johnson, Deputy Chief Keith Calloway, Commander Michael Pigott and Deputy Chief Kevin Johnson. All those geniuses were in charge of the recruit training and passing these idiots. They should also be sued civil court. NEGLIGENCE!!!! Strip those ass clowns and send them to call back.
It has continued go down the tubes with civilian Robert F. Landowski leading the charge. Worked there for almost 2 years and its was a freaking circus. A key word around 35th and Michigan 4th floor HR section was "work them up". You would have candidates that are clearly in violation of numerous items but investigators were routinely told to bend the rules to get that certain demographic into the academy at all costs. If you were military, had relatives on the job or M/2 your chances of getting bounced were the highest. They always seemed to fail the psychological part of the process with no explanation and were just shelved with candidates sitting at home waiting for an email that was never going to come. The sad part is you have investigators willingly bending to the will of this director in order to keep their spots. Thankful for retirement and worried about the future of CPD. Trust me folks you ain't seen nothing yet, their are "REFORMED" gangbangers on the streets and in the academy all thanks to Landowski and the lowing of the standards.
The standards were lowered around 2007-2008
100% graduation rate from the academy. No one is allowed to fail. What do you expect?
Crossing guard in 17 was a burglar before he got hired. When HR was notified they said it was ok cause he cleared screening process.
6 people turned down sergeants promotion.
4 turned detectives.
Updated lists just came out.
With regard to 6 March at 0216: Read Rex Applegate’s two classics: Kill or Get Killed (ca. 1944) and Crowd and Riot Control (ca. 1968) Also the “ good old fashioned” 1971 Vietnam- era Army FM 21-150 Combatives ( which is what I was trained on) These should be the doctrinal texts for CPD
Correction: Applegate revised Crowd and Riot Control with a second edition entitled Riot Control: Material & Techniques ( i.e., Techniques for positively dealing with Beatnik Weirdo Hippie Freak Dope Smoking Pseudo intellectual Peace Puke Protesters!!)
Another ideal source for eyeball gouging/ testicle crushing/ joint un bingeing/ eardrum popping/ spinal cord bruising unarmed combat is the 1943( mid war) US Naval Institute book Hand to Hand Combat
The lying media dances to the tune of the deep-state. Every story is filtered through the lense of how will this story promote the decline of the United States, and help usher in a one world government. If it is of no use promoting socialist goals, the story is buried or crucial facts are downplayed like this CTA shooting. They realize the black community cant be whipped up into a frenzy with this one.
Remember the Swine Flu outbreak during Obama's term. Over ten thousand people died from it in the U.S. alone, but I dont recall the fake media breaking in with updates of each individual case like they do now for this hyped up Corona virus non story. Every newsbreak on WLS radio the past few weeks the newsreader breathlessly leads off "x-number of cases in Illinois of corona virus" Then in the next story they report on how the markets are falling.
The leftists, with the media's help, are using this corona virus faiytale to forment fear in the population.
If there is any justice in the world, the politicians, and media responsible for this sham will be held accountable for their deceit.
If she allowed qualified candidates to be hired— CPD would not be FUCKED... my overall assessment is they fucked the department intentionally so that all they stupid committees ciuld be formed to fast track firing and the rise of Socialism
Can the CPD command staff, and City Hall, get any lower?...
But seriously, other then her complete failure to do any hands on (on Video) She did utilize multiple tools prior to the shooting, verbal direction, tazer and O.C spray. The partner yelling "shoot him" may have been the largest contributing factor to think she was in much greater danger and that the male officer knew something she did not that justified shooting. Her previous arrest for assault having never been adjudicated in court guilty or innocent should be left at the presumption of innocence unless there is more then what is written...This whole case is a fuck up and the officer that did not shoot certainly esalated it. But you are also right this lowering (actually elinamting standards physical and mental have put some real idiots on this job..
3/06/2020 12:44:00 AM
Using multiple tools means nothing in terms of justifying her decision to use deadly force. You don't just get to use deadly force against an active resister because other force options were ineffective. At the time he was shot, he wasn't even an active resister. He was just standing there. Then she shot him again while he was running away. Nothing can justify either shot. Maybe she has a tiny shred of an argument because her partner said to shoot him, which could possibly make her believe he is a deadly threat. However, once her partner stood up and decided to play with his cuffs instead of trying to control the guy in any way, she has no reason to believe that person playing with his cuffs is doing so while a deadly threat stands just a few feet away. But she shoots anyway, long after the "shoot him" was said. She shot because she was scared and out of ideas. She shot because she didn't know she wasn't lawfully able to shoot. She shot because she didn't belong on this job. Her partner probably doesn't either, since he had absolutely no idea what to do other than hold onto the guy resisting him. No strikes, no baton, no use of the discarded tasers. Just complete incompetence and stupidity.
02:16,could not be more acurate.
To think how many more qualified, never justice involved applicants were passed over because of the biased policy.
Is it true she only had 2 yrs on, less the 6 mos. Academy time? Barely off probation?
Lots of splain’in should be coming from HR and the Academy. Wonder what the academy file had on her training, scores, etc. Who passed her along? Then of course there’s that city imposed No Fail Clause.
Anyway, the misfit have-to hire looked like she came on the job with hopes of becoming an eventual house mouse.
Unfortunately she will back at MacDonalds, maybe this time behind the drive up window and if lucky at $15 an hour.
Anonymous said...
Thats funny that she will fight over food but wouldn’t jump in to help her partner.
This is the best comment. Sad but true!
They say that Lysol kills 99% of that Coronavirus. So, the City will spray the homeless community that sleep in police lobbies like the 2nd district lobby. Can anybody please explain why the 2nd district lobby allows this nonsense. Yes, I understand that they are homeless, but all of them suffer from some mental illness, they are not in the best of health, hygiene issues, they piss and shit on the lobby floor. Many officers have complained but District Commander look the other way. It's not a safe work environment, it's not safe to walk into this station for a report at the desk and I can't use the bathroom there without fear of being assaulted. The awful smell of feet, ass, urine and shit. Why not move all this to 3510 S. Michigan the Public Safety Headquarters or better yet the lobby of City Hall of Chicago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So , she has roughly 3 years on and she’s in Mass Transit ? God damn... I remember a time when it was hard to over there with 20 years on the job. This place is worse than the Titanic.
3/06/2020 07:13:00 AM
Like the airports not putting out bids just stuffing with friends and family,add political connections and you have no time coppers! No time=No experience just like with the cta shooting!
OT: Friday, 06 MAR, there was an embarrassingly large amount of available seating at the criminal trial of the scumbag who killed Cmdr Paul Bauer. Please drop by next week, if only for an hour. Room 506. Your presence does NOT go unnoticed. Thanks in advance.
Anonymous angrily typed:
3/06/2020 12:21:00 AM
Jagoff... you sound like one the shitheads who tried to assault family member at McDonald drive thru...Pos
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No sweetie, that's called sarcasm and it does take a certain amount of intelligence and maybe sobriety to understand the many levels and layers of this style of humor. You see, by mocking the behavior, I'm showing you that I believe it is in fact ridiculous to assault a drive-thru attendant.
If "the wisdom instilled by a half-dozen shots of Irish Whiskey" isn't really working for you, then perhaps grow a thicker skin. Or try yoga. Or maybe a men's retreat.
Xoxox
"...used to come to work chill go fetal and relax now I'm always on pins and needles monitoring the radio! "
Coming straight from someone who was promoted twice. THIS is why many of us stopped taking the tests years ago and why many of those passing the tests recently are turning it down. Not worth the headaches. Did a stint voluntarily on 1st watch a few years back and witnessed exactly the same behavior you mentioned. It was then that I asked myself if I wanted to be responsible for a whole watch/sector/etc. Nope. Only worry about myself and limp on a few more years to retirement. I'm sure the pay is nice, but if you're smart, you've developed and secured other ways to more than make up for the pay differences in rank.
So is 12:44 saying she did a good job? If so he should turn his badge and gun and have another drink. There is a very great difference between using her tools and using them correctly. Three tools and she failed miserably with all. Then she shot him twice in the back and your trying to defend her? Sober up and watch the video again before answering.
Thats funny that she will fight over food but wouldn’t jump in to help her partner.
3/06/2020 07:06:00 AM
Have you ever been hangry?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
White chicago police officer shoots unarmed black man in CTA station, protests continue for the third week.
Oh wait, my bad.
Nah, nothing to see here.
This female po was rattled beyond belief. She plain and simply shot a man who had both of his hands out, no weapons visible. Then she chased him up the escalator and shot him again. Let’s let this bad apple rot in jail. And I want zero of my dues paying for her defense.
3/06/2020 12:22:00 AM
Well just for the sake of argument mind you, what if that first shot was truly in response to her partner shouting “shoot him” and the bad guy did have his hand reaching towards or already on the firearm of her partner. That scenario makes her heroic in saving the life of her partner and herself. I have not seen sufficient video of the shot fired on the escalator, but there may also be a reason for that gunshot. Alright now, discuss amongst yourselves.
Is the 8:41 post correct about the suburban forces paying better than the CPD. If true what the hell are you all waiting for. Lateral transfer and get the hell out of the no win situation your now in. Just incase you haven't been paying attention things are about to get much worse for you. The only people staying is anyone with 20 plus on. Less than 10 gone tomorrow, 10-15 lateral transfer if possible, 15-20 get the twenty in. Twenty plus leave now and get paid then take suburb job for the medical if you get another ten in another pension.
Anonymous said...
"Policemen are SUPPOSED to be aggressive, assertive,
combative, instinctive, mean, smart, strong,
survival-focused and tough..."
Police like THIS have no friends.
I agree that we shouldn't hug a thug, but there are too
many officers who treat EVERYBODY the same especially
if they live in certain neighborhoods regardless if they
are law abiding,tax paying, hard working, productive
members of society...
3/06/2020 09:28:00 AM
Your reach exceeds your grasp in trying to infer
that we advocate mistreatment of anyone.
And with that, what's actually wrong with treating
everyone the same?
Are you advocating for privilege and favoritism?
Policemen CAN BE aggressive, assertive, combative,
instinctive, mean, smart, strong, survival-focused
and tough.
All while maintaining a DETACHED & PROFESSIONAL DEMEANOR.
Although the flip side will be:
"The Police are acting like they don't care."
So sorry for not showing the PC mandated
daily ration of empathy/sympathy by which
we are alleged to be able to earn everybody's
"trust."
Never you mind that trust truly is a door
that swings both ways.
No?
So try not to be vexed just because Policemen
are now very diligently watching for which way
the door swings.
"Once burned, twice shy" is very real on this side
of the societal minus sign...
Everyone is too squeamish to consider
the implications of The Police not
being very trusting of the general public.
Anyways...
The ability to evaluate a situation and whether
to take DECISIVE action or not, given the totality
of circumstances and application of the "reasonable man"
standard, is critical for the Policeman's survival.
The Policeman has ZERO obligation to give you a tingle,
validate you and your beliefs or even make you "feel
necessary."
The Policeman IS supposed to have at least arm's length
between himself and the public or else he cannot perform
his DUTIES of enforcing Public Order, Public Peace and
Public Safety without fear or favor.
The current state of affairs when disparate competing
interests have over-written The Police hard drive with
so much virus infected bullshit in the name of craven
political pandering as to render actual Policing wholly
ineffective.
No?
And with that being said...
Some of the bestest, bravest, big-hearted, most human
and humane,urbane and downright funnest and funniest soldiers
in God's corporeal army, ARE Policemen.
I saw a comment where someone said you shouldn't hug a thug (lmao) maybe it should have said you should be scared of a thug. My years in 002, and 007 I have hugged a few thugs as you call them. Thugs that yes I have had to arrest and may have had a confrontation with before they became hug a thug friends.The reason I can hug a thug is because I treated them with respect even while arresting them. I don't know of too many people who will be happy with being arrested. Anyway having a good relationship with the thugs as you say always helped me police the block when there was a problem, cut down problems on the block and even get information sometimes. Just because you call them thugs doesn't always mean they are not human beings also. Being the police you should be able to tell the good from the bad, I always told pop's that if the person takes it up to another level then you take it to another level, just know how to bring it back down when things calm down
Chicago is all about PC optics...
his POS hated coppers, especially White coppers and eliminated alot of cops kids from the testing procedure saying they failed the Psych test. Well Thanks to Dan Herbert who took on the case blew it in court. He did no favors to these kids because he took thier money and was ill prepared to handle it properly. Ladner was finally launched and webtvri the County where she lasted a short time and was fired. CPD standards have definitely yielded some gad products.
Please don't criticize when you have no Fken clue what your talking about. White coppers, cop kiddies. How about eddies idiots. Am not white neither
Congrats to JL for making Sgt. Long overdue! Should have been made years ago. F/U Eddie and Co.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cut her some slack on the McDonald's incident. We've all wanted to reach through that drive in microphone and strangle someone when they tell you the shake machine is down again.
Happened to me two nights ago when I went.
Jonesing for Shamrock Shake? Denied!
3/06/2020 12:21:00 AM
Jagoff... you sound like one the shitheads who tried to assault family member at McDonald drive thru...Pos
*you tool! OP was being a his usual smart ass sarcastic copper
The Dept wants Diversity 1/3 White, 1/3 Black, 1/3 Hispanic...
3/06/2020 10:22:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wait a cotton picking minute, where's my Asians
I remember when my Daughter took the test. Scored very well, but even more important, she has common sense, as well as brains. She had received a letter in the mail, that she was disqualified, because she missed a step in the hiring process. She was informed by the Department, that they had sent an E-mail to her, with the date and time, she was to report for the next step.My daughter explained to Human Resources, that she had never received such an E-Mail, at which time they told her to prove she hadn't. Of course she had printed out every E-Mail she had received, during the time in question, and sent it to the Department, via certified mail. A couple of weeks later she received a letter stating congratulations you qualify to take the next step. At this time she decided they could take the job and shove it. She since moved to Arizona, is a Human Resource Director with a great company, makes more money then she would have as a Police Officer in a city, that for the most part does not back the Police, and tells me she feels like she is on Vacation everyday of her life. By the way, she also has never been arrested, or for that matter ever received a ticket. As a retired Chicago Police Officer, I think she made the right decision.
3/06/2020 08:50:00 AM
That happened a lot when they had 20,000 candidates for Police Officer candidates and you had no clout. Got a letter (early 90s before email notifications) indicating a score of Well Qualified. After calling the number on the card several times, I was informed a letter was sent that I failed to respond or comply with, therefore disqualifying me from the process. My only recourse was to contact the city HR department and appeal. I could go on with the story, needless to say the appeal process was only in theory, they were never reversing the disqualification or admitting there was no reason for disqualification. In hindsight looking at what ChicagoPolice Officers are being put through, I ended up at a much better spot. Good luck and stay safe.
Anonymous said...
Shit this department is looking for heads... no one wants the job— signed RETIRED 2014, enjoy your years on the job guys.
How’s about this... what year were the standards lowered?... and what year was the standards raised? Lol
3/06/2020 12:12:00 AM
Standards were lowered in my class of 1986, we had all kinds of felonious recruits of every ethnicity...
3/06/2020 08:27:00 AM
I was hired in 1986. They hired over 2,000 that year. And I got bounced out of the hiring process because I told the truth and told them I smoked I smoked ONE JOINT in high school! And I didn't drink alcohol at all! It took a couple of months to appeal and get back in and get hired 11Aug86. My whole career not one drop of alcohol. No suspension, no sustained CR's, no bad anything. Never shot anyone. I got hired with plenty of bad SOB's. One bosses kid pissed hot for cocaine. One guy went to prison for sexual assault on little black kids. Plenty of thieves, drunks, druggies and a bunch got fired.
My class also had Leo Schmitz, Riccio and other good people. When I retired I threw every uniform item in the garbage. Except my leather jacket. I haven't missed any of it.
This is a product of 003 district political entitled PPO's.
good heavens--she was on the cover of the Feb 2020 FOP magazine...and there is a woman with the same last name with time on the job (her mother, reportedly) and HR has hired people with a phone call and sketchy backgrounds (looking at you eddie john sons son)...but thats how they have done things forever (looking at you class of 86-5 and you guys of the spitball class)...the only thing "be the changed" changed was the preferred racial breakdown 1/3 1/3/1/3..and in a "better balanced class 60/40 men to women.
Crossing guard in 17 was a burglar before he got hired. When HR was notified they said it was ok cause he cleared screening process.
3/06/2020 02:09:00 PM
He's a crossing guard. Who gives a shit?
No one has read the shooting officer’s statement. Maybe she stated that the pepper spray was in her eyes and she believed that the offender had a gun on her partner or he got control of her partner’s gun so when her partner yelled “shoot him”. She believed that it was justified to use deadly force.
Still waiting for the news to publish the offenders rap sheet. Any previous resisting/ obsructing? When was his last arrest. Is he on bond and one of Evans Scholars?
3/06/2020 09:10:00 AM
So your expert defense is that she shot him because she couldn't see him, and she could've believed he had a gun? You can't blindly shoot people just in case they possibly got ahold of a gun while you couldn't see them. Your brain doesn't work right. Never post stupid shit like this again. Please tell me you're not the police.
What kills me is that white candidates can be open and notoriously discriminated against without repercussion.
Black female with a violent history , really that is so low. Life to attack a McDonald’s employee. Now she shoots an unarmed man What was her score on entrance exam 40% how did she pass power test.
CPS preference?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So is 12:44 saying she did a good job?
Hell no. If you read it as a defense that was not my intention. My only point was trying to make sense of what I could see. I never saw any reason to shoot the guy. Her partner yelling shoot him is confusing. If my partner starts
Yelling “Shoot him!” It would make me think there is a justifiable reason I dont know
Or see. I never saw any reason to shoot. So no defense. Just questioned the state if mind. The shooting at him fleeing has absolutely no defense. Both are goofs and have culpability. Just saying He put it out there as ok to shoot the guy. And he was WRONG.
Came on the job in 82. Even back then the academy class was equal numbers of white, minority, and female cadets.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Another ideal source for eyeball gouging/ testicle crushing/ joint un bingeing/ eardrum popping/ spinal cord bruising unarmed combat is the 1943( mid war) US Naval Institute book Hand to Hand Combat
3/06/2020 02:40:00 PM
Spoken like a true Remington Warrior. Real life isn't a Steven Seagull movie. Try that shit on duty and end up sued. Where do you dumb asses come from?
Cut her some slack on the McDonald's incident. We've all wanted to reach through that drive in microphone and strangle someone when they tell you the shake machine is down again.
Come on!
First off, it isn't the person working the window fault that the milk shake machine is broken.
Second, the stuff that comes out of that machine is not a milkshake. It is an unknown chemical concoction of corn syrup, artificial colors and flavors and who knows what else. If you want a milkshake, go to 1,000 other places and get a real one.
3/06/2020 12:22:00 AM
Well just for the sake of argument mind you, what if that first shot was truly in response to her partner shouting “shoot him” and the bad guy did have his hand reaching towards or already on the firearm of her partner. That scenario makes her heroic in saving the life of her partner and herself. I have not seen sufficient video of the shot fired on the escalator, but there may also be a reason for that gunshot. Alright now, discuss amongst yourselves.
3/06/2020 05:49:00 PM
OK
For someone who desperately wants to come across as super educated - you have failed. First off, it should read "...well, for the sake of arguement, mind you"... The 'just' is not needed. A "?" should have followed your sentence-ending "shoot him" because without it you created a run-on. While this short exercise was fun, I think what I really mean is that if you are supporting her actions you are truly as moronic as it gets.
Anonymous said...
is there a lawsuit?......another lawsuit pending?......anyone know?
3/06/2020 10:36:00 AM
Of course, there will be. With a huge payday without going to trial. 💵💵💵💵💵
Heh...
So the little short-armed, rolly-polly Oompa-Loompa
diversity hire (courtesy of the ONE & ONLY Tracy
"Hair-On-Fire" Ladner) also has a "short" (Snicker!)
fuse as well?
Remember... It was "tha' communerty" that was howling
the loudest about "Poleece hiring standards are too
high and RACIST," therefore; anything remotely resembling
"standards" has been shoved out the window in the name of
"A Police Department that looks more like US" (no matter
how badly it's destroyed to make it happen)
This corrosive shit falls in line with the thinking
that Policemen shouldn't be highly intelligent because
intelligent Policemen pose a challenge to the powers that be.
Too intelligent = Too likely to think for themselves
= Too difficult to control = Too high probability to
do the right thing when a political heavy trips up and
trods the top few layers of skin off their pee-pee/
inelegantly throws a foot up their own pussy.
"It ain't what you did or didn't do,
it's the cover-up afterwards."
(Cover-ups in Chicago originate
from the top down...)
"Whoopsie!"
>Stumble? Crunch!<
"OUCHIE! IT STINGS!
Make the Cops cover it up so
I'm not exposed then throw THEM
to the wolves when it comes undone."
The ONLY way to begin righting the Police ship
is to go back to SOME SEMBLANCE OF STANDARDS.
The higher, the better.
Drug screen.
Zero tolerance regarding criminal background.
MMPI AND Wonderlic Testing.
Harsh physical training.
Basic "Urban Police Martial Art"
with an emphasis on "mean, tough, dirty and unfair"
alley-fighting techniques that center around:
joint crushing/bone bending/stomping/kicking/gouging/
slapping/punching/hair snatching/skin-tearing, fear and pain
instilling that IMMEDIATELY takes the winds of defiance and
resistance out of a subject's sails.
Not the current corporation counsel approved
hugging and caressing big, strong and vicious
Chicago street criminals (male, female and fluid)
into submission.
Policemen ARE NOT supposed to lose fights
in order to give progressives, sjws and community
members a feel-good tingle.
"HAW! Poleece got they ass kicked
and it's about TIME it finally happened!"
Defiance and resistance are the pathways of an assailant.
Make the potential assailant want NONE
of what The Police have in store.
"Be cool... You're CAUGHT and you're caught DIRTY.
Act like a gentleman, get treated like one.
Do the m/fin' fool and get treated like a fool."
Policemen are SUPPOSED to be aggressive, assertive,
combative, instinctive, mean, smart, strong,
survival-focused and tough...
Chicago is a mean, nasty, evil and vicious place
full of people who mean The Policeman nothing but
hurt and harm.
Policemen are supposed to be experts at surviving
it and staying true to the purity of enforcing the
Peelian Principles of Public Order, Public Peace,
Public Safety and the laws that govern them.
Everything else is a bunch of eye-wash, telephone
and bullshit...
Police Like You Have No Friends.
SCC...what the fuck gives? You lecture everyone on this blog about run-on, BS posts, and then you give this fucking goof a whole damn page of nonsense, and you do so repeatedly...how about you practice what you preach to the masses here, and edit this guy's bullshit? Thanks in advance!
It seems in an effort to get police that look like the community they are getting police that act like the community.
Hey SCC,
Ask this question of the readers......
How would Barb West handle the arrest of this guy jumping from train car to train car?
This incident involved two active duty officers.
One got down and dirty with the offender?
The second did not seem to try?
No put West in that situation and see if she could use her taser or sidearm?
Asian persuasion said...
The Dept wants Diversity 1/3 White, 1/3 Black, 1/3 Hispanic...
3/06/2020 10:22:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wait a cotton picking minute, where's my Asians
3/06/2020 07:36:00 PM
Wait now you cant say "cotton picking" !
Ladner ah yes I remember now. "Rough-and-tumble white cop with a basic education" don't want those guys ...
8:57am....clearly you couldnt recognize sarcasm or humor if it slapped you in the face. You must be a real pleasure to work with for 8hrs.
Tracey Lardner, yes we know how know how you rejected legitimate and qualified police candidates because they were related to police officers on the job but were not in your wish list of a certain racial demographic. Also SCC you may want to link this post to your post of Fri Nov 12, 2010 - The “Cop of Tomorrow”.
This shit has been going on forever. I was bounced in early 90s psych test. My dad was retired from cpd at time. " psychologist " asked me only few questions in my interview. About 3rd question. " what do your parents do " I responded my mother stay at home wife disabled. I said my dad is retired. " retired from what " I said Chicago police department. After that my interview was over. I said thank you for your time I put out my hand for a hand shake he didn't even look up from desk. Weeks later sorry to inform you letter failed psych. Was on a class action lawsuit we hired lawyer by name of Michael Petro was like $1000-1500 per person. One thing we all had in common we were white and related to Chicago police officers. This lawyer wasn't prepared either. We heard Anne Burke successfully won a case previously with similar circumstances but she wasn't interested in doing it again as she just became a judge. I was pretty bummed out but 2 years later ended up with another city department making more money and no headaches. And had to pysch again for job and passed. Also passed psych for couple other departments before getting job I have now. Also my friend and I both tested for a suburban department he failed their psych got hired on cpd I passed theirpsych put on waiting tohire list. My cpd psychologist was African American and heard later on he wasn't even licensed in Illinois. I didn't bother trying by that time I was working another job making more money. Back then you had 20-40 thousand people taking test they had to cut a ton of ppl so psych test was your dad's heart murmur it was all bullshit
Come on SSC yelling at a drive up window employe that never went to trial is the best you can come up with? The video proves she shouldn't be one of Chicago's finest so leave it at that. Lower standards and you get lower qualified to be cops that somehow make it through training? How many more are out there waiting to make mistakes that next time could result in the loss of life maybe even your own.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can the CPD command staff, and City Hall, get any lower?...
3/06/2020 03:04:00 PM
They are proof that the city hires the vertically handicapped!
I agree that this was a bad shoot. That being said, it is ugly hypocrisy that so many of you are screaming about how poor her decision-making was, yet you couldn't make the same objective observations in the Laquan McDonald shooting. That was another bad shoot, regardless of the "fear for your life" arguments that so many of you tried to throw out there to justify that fool cops' actions.
If she allowed qualified candidates to be hired— CPD would not be FUCKED... my overall assessment is they fucked the department intentionally so that all they stupid committees ciuld be formed to fast track firing and the rise of Socialism
Are you crazy, stupid, or just fucked up?! This department was fucked long before recent changes in hiring standards. SMH, don't use stupid people like these to all of a sudden come out of the woodwork to imply that we had a strong Department before the last five years.
It has continued go down the tubes with civilian Robert F. Landowski leading the charge. Worked there for almost 2 years and its was a freaking circus. A key word around 35th and Michigan 4th floor HR section was "work them up". You would have candidates that are clearly in violation of numerous items but investigators were routinely told to bend the rules to get that certain demographic into the academy at all costs. If you were military, had relatives on the job or M/2 your chances of getting bounced were the highest. They always seemed to fail the psychological part of the process with no explanation and were just shelved with candidates sitting at home waiting for an email that was never going to come. The sad part is you have investigators willingly bending to the will of this director in order to keep their spots. Thankful for retirement and worried about the future of CPD. Trust me folks you ain't seen nothing yet, their are "REFORMED" gangbangers on the streets and in the academy all thanks to Landowski and the lowing of the standards.
3/06/2020 01:08:00 PM
There were at least two classes in the beginning of 1986 that were hired do to a lawsuit against the city for disqualifying a ton of non minority people, for not passing the psych part, from an earlier test. Seems that a relative of a sister inlaw’s cousin to a boss was not qualified to do the testing. Imagine that....
3/07/2020 03:12:00 AM
Exactly!
What kills me is that white candidates can be open and notoriously discriminated against without repercussion.
What kills me is my brown police ass is still being open and and notoriously discriminated against without repercussion. I worked under Ed only white Kulbeda.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Black female with a violent history , really that is so low. Life to attack a McDonald’s employee. Now she shoots an unarmed man What was her score on entrance exam 40% how did she pass power test.
CPS preference?
3/06/2020 10:55:00 PM
She didn’t have to pass the power test. She was in Eddie Johnson’s son’s class.
SCC...what the fuck gives? You lecture everyone on this blog about run-on, BS posts, and then you give this fucking goof a whole damn page of nonsense, and you do so repeatedly...how about you practice what you preach to the masses here, and edit this guy's bullshit? Thanks in advance!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Fucking goof? Bullshit? Maybe you didn't read what he said.
RH
"SCC...what the fuck gives?"
3/07/2020 02:34:00 AM
The poster in question actually has something
worthwhile to contribute to the ongoing dialog?
The poster in question is thought provoking?
What you got?
Crickets...
Which media outlet do you troll the blog for?
Or are you a spy from the mayor's office?
Piss-off and go ban and burn some books.
It's time to go!!
CPD is the warehouse workers of the City..
Streets and sanitation make more money!!
The current system needs to be scrapped and the hiring standards actually enforced for real, not just make believe Chicago delusion values....but for real.
You don't know the entire story. She ordered a Happy Meal and they didn't put the toy in her bag. I don't blame her for being upset. They "F" you in the drive thru.
3/07/2020
@ 02:34:00 AM...
"Cancel Culture"
Shut-Down/Shout-Down/Dox
if you don't co-sign what they espouse.
Anonymously trolling SCC but loudly calls
out content he/she/it doesn't like then
demands that the blog-master "do something."
The only thing missing was the "...or ELSE!"
but it was clearly implied.
Another reading comprehension challenged
half-wit who doesn't have the attention
span to grasp anything more complex than
a tweet.
Another adult child who is "vexed..."
I blame our *ussy powder puff academy and its soft serve standards......I knew a guy who showed me a video of Gary's Academy and they used OC spray and CS gas.....The redman sessions got heated and an instructor almost knocked out a recruit but kept fighting as the classmates cheered the recruit on. Another recruit and the instructor fight got so headed they had to be broken apart! Our gym should be this tough and people would just quit......Sounds fun.....Sorry dreaming of a real department...smh (True Story by the way)
Another 1986-3 class here. I literally burned every one of my 12 custom fitted white shirts. What was a waste of money on my part buying all of those. The pants, vest covers, turtlenecks, hats...everything with a CPD logo. By the time I retired I was so sick of the political corruption on this job that I just snapped and torched it all. Except for the leather jacket, of course.
Heh...
So the little short-armed, rolly-polly Oompa-Loompa
diversity hire (courtesy of the ONE & ONLY Tracy
"Hair-On-Fire" Ladner) also has a "short" (Snicker!)
fuse as well?
Remember... It was "tha' communerty" that was howling
the loudest about "Poleece hiring standards are too
high and RACIST," therefore; anything remotely resembling
"standards" has been shoved out the window in the name of
"A Police Department that looks more like US" (no matter
how badly it's destroyed to make it happen)
This corrosive shit falls in line with the thinking
that Policemen shouldn't be highly intelligent because
intelligent Policemen pose a challenge to the powers that be.
Too intelligent = Too likely to think for themselves
= Too difficult to control = Too high probability to
do the right thing when a political heavy trips up and
trods the top few layers of skin off their pee-pee/
inelegantly throws a foot up their own pussy.
"It ain't what you did or didn't do,
it's the cover-up afterwards."
(Cover-ups in Chicago originate
from the top down...)
"Whoopsie!"
>Stumble? Crunch!<
"OUCHIE! IT STINGS!
Make the Cops cover it up so
I'm not exposed then throw THEM
to the wolves when it comes undone."
The ONLY way to begin righting the Police ship
is to go back to SOME SEMBLANCE OF STANDARDS.
The higher, the better.
Drug screen.
Zero tolerance regarding criminal background.
MMPI AND Wonderlic Testing.
Harsh physical training.
Basic "Urban Police Martial Art"
with an emphasis on "mean, tough, dirty and unfair"
alley-fighting techniques that center around:
joint crushing/bone bending/stomping/kicking/gouging/
slapping/punching/hair snatching/skin-tearing, fear and pain
instilling that IMMEDIATELY takes the winds of defiance and
resistance out of a subject's sails.
Not the current corporation counsel approved
hugging and caressing big, strong and vicious
Chicago street criminals (male, female and fluid)
into submission.
Policemen ARE NOT supposed to lose fights
in order to give progressives, sjws and community
members a feel-good tingle.
"HAW! Poleece got they ass kicked
and it's about TIME it finally happened!"
Defiance and resistance are the pathways of an assailant.
Make the potential assailant want NONE
of what The Police have in store.
"Be cool... You're CAUGHT and you're caught DIRTY.
Act like a gentleman, get treated like one.
Do the m/fin' fool and get treated like a fool."
Policemen are SUPPOSED to be aggressive, assertive,
combative, instinctive, mean, smart, strong,
survival-focused and tough...
Chicago is a mean, nasty, evil and vicious place
full of people who mean The Policeman nothing but
hurt and harm.
Policemen are supposed to be experts at surviving
it and staying true to the purity of enforcing the
Peelian Principles of Public Order, Public Peace,
Public Safety and the laws that govern them.
Everything else is a bunch of eye-wash, telephone
and bullshit...
Police Like You Have No Friends
Where would you find these people, and should we have people like this in the job? I am a lifelong Chicago resident, but, they have always bored people who have had some shortcomings, whether it had to do with fitness, or something else. This cta incident was bad, but I am going to wait until the investigation is over, and whatever the powers that be decide.
Anonymous said...
OT: Friday, 06 MAR, there was an embarrassingly large amount of available seating at the criminal trial of the scumbag who killed Cmdr Paul Bauer. Please drop by next week, if only for an hour. Room 506. Your presence does NOT go unnoticed. Thanks in advance.
3/06/2020 04:57:00 PM
Was Jill Stevens there....NO! She won't let her staff attend, and they worked for Cmdr Bauer, such a shame. She is so undeserving of being a Commander but no one will say it, no one has any balls anymore!
The standards were lowered around 2007-2008
3/06/2020 01:21:00 PM
Yep, remember my Cpt being pissed off that persons with criminal records being allowed on with reasonable justification. Cpt Raymond
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Crossing guard in 17 was a burglar before he got hired. When HR was notified they said it was ok cause he cleared screening process.
3/06/2020 02:09:00 PM
He's a crossing guard. Who gives a shit?
3/06/2020 10:16:00 PM
The Bigger question is..
Was that Guy hired when CPD handled Crossing Guards or OEMC.
If OEMC, not a surprise.
If CPD...
Maybe this one can work together with the clown who got locked up on Halloween. Think of the hilarity that will ensue.
I agree that this was a bad shoot. That being said, it is ugly hypocrisy that so many of you are screaming about how poor her decision-making was, yet you couldn't make the same objective observations in the Laquan McDonald shooting. That was another bad shoot, regardless of the "fear for your life" arguments that so many of you tried to throw out there to justify that fool cops' actions.
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I’d agree with you... if he had a knife. Shit, even a hammer or a screwdriver. Sorry, it’s different. Something tells me something controversial is obscuring reality for you and you tend to look at the world through such a lens.
There was a girl in my class at the academy named Sandra Day who never passed the power test and used to hide on the runs and rejoin when they were heading back to the academy. She used to brag that she was Terry Hilliards baby sitter.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I agree that this was a bad shoot. That being said, it is ugly hypocrisy that so many of you are screaming about how poor her decision-making was, yet you couldn't make the same objective observations in the Laquan McDonald shooting. That was another bad shoot, regardless of the "fear for your life" arguments that so many of you tried to throw out there to justify that fool cops' actions.
3/07/2020 08:33:00 AM
I look at it another way - yo have JCD who went down - then you have this case in the subway and the Sgt on the southside shooting the autistic kid
Can you spot any differences? Come on I;ll give you three guesses. Two don't count.
They have always allowed people on the job who should not have been on the job..that's nothing new. There could be more thorough background checks, but that would take money and time.
The Bigger question is..
Was that Guy hired when CPD handled Crossing Guards or OEMC.
If OEMC, not a surprise.
If CPD...
3/07/2020 09:59:00 PM
No. The only question is whether he's a crossing guard or a police officer. He's a crossing guard, so who gives a shit? He stands in the street with a little stop sign while kids walk across. He doesn't need a spotless criminal history or top secret clearance. He does a job that is mostly done by small, female, senior citizens. No one cares about the criminal history of a meter maid either, Andrew. It just isn't relevant or scandalous. It doesn't matter to anyone... at all.
Was Jill Stevens there....NO! She won't let her staff attend, and they worked for Cmdr Bauer, such a shame. She is so undeserving of being a Commander but no one will say it, no one has any balls anymore!
3/07/2020 09:08:00 PM
Did she kidnap her staff? Seems illegal. Is she requiring her staff to do their jobs instead of sitting at the courthouse during their shifts? Seems reasonable. Every time I see her name on here, it's something negative, about how she's clueless and never worked the street, and how daddy got her promoted, etc. Yet there's never anything specific that she supposedly does wrong. There's never a story of some mistake or show of incompetence on her part. Maybe she was helped by her last name, but at least she is able to do the job once she's there, which is more than can be said of most of these connected types. So, you're far from the only one saying anything about Jill Stevens, and it doesn't make you brave or the sole voice of reason. It doesn't mean you have balls. The fact that you used the term "staff" when referring to the people not being allowed to attend the trial, tells me that you're a member of that "staff," which is a word that would only be used by some house mouse to describe the people working inside for Jill Stevens. Police officers are never referred to as the commander's "staff," unless they're part of the office crew. Sit behind your desk, shuffle your papers, and quit crying about how you're not allowed to go play outside, you crybaby. If you want to attend the trial, take time off and attend. Jill can't do anything to stop you then. But you won't do that, because you only care enough if it gets you out of a day's work for free. Shut the fuck up now.
Sandra Day was everything that’s wrong with the merit promotions on this job, she was never the police and as useless as tits on a bull
No. The only question is whether he's a crossing guard or a police officer. He's a crossing guard, so who gives a shit? He stands in the street with a little stop sign while kids walk across. He doesn't need a spotless criminal history or top secret clearance. He does a job that is mostly done by small, female, senior citizens. No one cares about the criminal history of a meter maid either, Andrew. It just isn't relevant or scandalous. It doesn't matter to anyone... at all.
3/08/2020 03:02:00 PM
Who gives a shit? Fair enough.
Expect that comment from me to you the next time you see me ticketing in your area, Francis.
Anonymous said...
OT: Friday, 06 MAR, there was an embarrassingly large amount of available seating at the criminal trial of the scumbag who killed Cmdr Paul Bauer. Please drop by next week, if only for an hour. Room 506. Your presence does NOT go unnoticed. Thanks in advance.
3/06/2020 04:57:00 PM
Not surprised. Always a crowd for the bond and arraignment, but trial time after the opening statements... maybe 4 cops in the gallery.
s the 8:41 post correct about the suburban forces paying better than the CPD. If true what the hell are you all waiting for. Lateral transfer and get the hell out of the no win situation your now in. Just incase you haven't been paying attention things are about to get much worse for you. The only people staying is anyone with 20 plus on. Less than 10 gone tomorrow, 10-15 lateral transfer if possible, 15-20 get the twenty in. Twenty plus leave now and get paid then take suburb job for the medical if you get another ten in another pension.
3/06/2020 05:49:00 PM
So you really believe it's just that easy, huh?
CLUELESS!
Who gives a shit? Fair enough.
Expect that comment from me to you the next time you see me ticketing in your area, Francis.
3/09/2020 06:02:00 AM
Well, sweetie, I happen to follow the law and keep my vehicles legally parked and in compliance with all regulations. So, your "powers" are useless against me. Basically, you mean nothing. Go find some expired meters to impress yourself. And keep posting on the police blog because you want so badly to be one of us, but just couldn't cut it. It's cute. I like when you share your war stories about those felony parkers. It really gets the adrenaline pumping. Maybe you could start a meter maid blog. I'm sure it would be very popular. You could post the knitting tip of the day, where the best bingo games are, and various other topics of interest to members of your profession.
"...or maybe a men's retreat?..."
I'm in! Just let me know when and where!
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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