FOP Runoff
Election results are in and the numbers are horrible.
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 18,000 ballots went out.
8,300 were returned, a 46% rate of return.
Here's the final results (click for larger versions):
Graham versus Catanzara.
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 18,000 ballots went out.
8,300 were returned, a 46% rate of return.
Here's the final results (click for larger versions):
Graham versus Catanzara.
And even with the election being reasonably big news, it's in the #3 spot because the other stories tonight are much bigger deals.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
216 Comments:
I didn't Get My Ballot, Called FOP they Said it was mailed.
I'm extremely shocked that both Prieb and Murry received so many votes.
Boys and girls please vote in the run off. The membership has already voted that they want change. The board is 80% Vision 20/20 Team now. Complete the mission and elect John within the month and move the Lodge foreword.
Membership is fucked either way with do nothing Graham crackers and 3 more years of negotiating or some wild card who may be taking 30 pending! We are our own worst enemy!
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
If you didn't vote,
shut the fuck up.
You have no right to ever
comment about FOP,
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 18,000 ballots went out.
8,300 were returned, a 46% rate of return.
That's not a bad thing. Simply because you have the right to vote doesn't mean you should be voting, particularly if you don't know what's going on.
This especially applies to local, state and federal elections. All this "get out the vote" crap just causes more waiting at the polls while people punch cards because they like how someone's name sounds.
rb
Time for a new regime , it can’t be worse than what we have now. I’d rather have a guy stand up and fight for us than sit silent and take shit from the city. I’m tired of the city throwing us under the bus without any response from our union . New York’s head of union fights in the media for his guys, it’s time we had that too .
God, so many of the same d-bags re-elected....Bella, Caparelli, Donahue, Duckhorn, Shogren, Hauser, DeMaria, Trevino....just fucking go away already. Well, at least Aguilar lost. Hey Rich, can you finally just ride off into the sunset now?
And jagoff Donahue is still there. If Kevin wins Donahue will still be calling the shots. Terrible.
Congratulations to the Vision Team and the other winners as well. Bring it home CAT!!!!!
We all better pray Kevin Graham gets re-elected. This is not the mayor to have a guy like Cantanzara in as president. She will disconnect her phone and change her address. We will get absolutely nothing accomplished.
Gotta go with Graham. I think he’s done a good job. It’s not his fault we’re almost 3 years without a contract it’s the norm. The reason we’re in arbitration is because Graham said, “no way” to all the city’s crazy demands. We need someone with experience that the city will talk to. Does anyone believe Lightfoot will put up with Cantanzara and want to meet with him?
About the same as Biden and Sanders lol
8,300 ballots returned out of 18,000 mailed? Damn! In today’s climate with the current mayoral administration! That’s really pathetic. Of the 8,300 people that voted, I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet that half of them, at least, are retired officers. The people elected as Trustees are once again overwhelmingly retired too. This was an election to vote for the people you want representing you in contract negotiations and protecting your working conditions. Nice job boys and girls.
I was really leaning towards Graham but after reading the other posts tonight maybe Groot needs a taste of JCat....Still undecided.
Jesus Christ, would you fucking retirees just quit reliving the good old days and let the guys on the job now run their own union?! Do you have to control the FOP until you actually die? Even though you are no longer bargaining unit members for over a decade? Sometimes 2 decades? Please, for the love of God stop mooching off the kids working now. Just let it go.
Who the fuck would vote for Markovich? Dirty piece of shit who got his entire team stripped for his criminal behavior. He was fired for God's sake. What is wrong with you guys, and cataranza? Seriously, all he is going to do is piss everyone off. You need people who can play hard ball and make deals at the same time, pissing in everyone's cheerios is not a good characteristic. It's like voting for kim fox.
Let’s go J-Cat!
Give em hell!
City is terrified of J-Cat winning this election so their plan is to try and fire him.
GO J-CAT!!!!!!!!!
Thank God Joyce didn't make it. Hauser continues to infect. What a mess.
If JC gets elected in the run-off
and wins. Can he still retain Presidency if fired from CPD?
Hope Catanza wins, The fOP needs a crazy fuck like him running the zero FOP. The former President of FOP, make believe Mr PhD Angelo who got his doctorate degree from Great America online University, is still driving the car he stole from FOP. He was a complete J.O and scared of a lighting. Catanza will make the carpetbagger mayor, of only certain parts of the city show fear when seeing or hearing him.
Let the Circus begin. I voted for Marty anyway, he is a good man with a brain.
There will be a run off for FOP president between Catanzara (Donald Trump) and Kevin Graham (Joe Biden). Kevin like a good Democrat stuffed the ballot box. He gets to sign up the recruits at the academy and none of the other candidates gets to talk to them. Kevin rented at bus to pick up about 100 PPO’s today and marched them in at lunch time to vote. Kevin beat Marty Preib by 30 votes for second place. Although Mark Donahue won a trustee spot Catanzara’s ticket won a controlling number of board positions. Mark’s power just dropped to nothing. But Donahue was still seen pulling the eyelets for his puppet strings out off Marty Preib’s joints and trying to reinsert them into Kevin Graham. Sorry to say Kevin Graham did not resist.
Somebody say RESIDENCY?
Later ZaZa! Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Yes John! We got you!
W T F people, at least have enough interest to have an opinion and act on it, the city is becoming so bizarre its hard to characterize because the voters are not paying attention, you have the government you deserve and the leadership you deserve..
And you wonder how the city, county and state are represented by people who don’t represent the views of MOST OF THE TAXPAYERS??
Shameful. To all those that did not vote, you should not be bitching, voicing any opinions, or living with any expectations of a decent contract, let alone a pension should you make that far on the job.
Hauser, Brown, Shogren and Donahue? I cannot believe they made it. FOP members ain't ready for no reform. That is a quartet that should have been dumped.
While Graham is not perfect...
Catanzara has stepped in more crap on this job than someone running with the bulls in Mexico for three days wearing snow shoes.
Hopefully the vote will be a wake up call and motivate Graham to be more proactive in the future as he remains the best choice of the two.
I hear all this talk about Mark Donahue & what he represents but yet 2,000 + people voted for him so we’re stuck w this jagbag for another term. I swear, something is rotten in the water down at that hall.
Forty six percent? This is the reason Democrats control this city. Apathy.
The majority of officers voted for a guy at callback? He’ gets elected and we look like a bunch of total assholes. His entire disciplinary record is going to get dissected by the media and we’re gonna be stuck with him. Use your head before you vote this time.
Most of these clowns are only running for the extra payout. Have then run with a no pay status to see if they really want these positions.
No unity
The decision here is actually pretty simple, the question you have to ask is are you happy with the way things have been going without a contract without proper representation in the media without a lot of response or do you want to try something new? Like we did with President Donald Trump in 2016 we took a chance a chance for the future of ourselves in our family, he is a little bit different actually A lot different not part of the same swamp we took the chance and he is proving to everyone how good he really is for our country and for our people America first. Now it is time to put Chicago police officers first we need a fighter someone it’s not gonna take the bullshit make your choice also please vote or don’t bitch that you did not get your candidate is pathetic the amount of votes return you get your ballot return it!
My guy won!
Interesting that 54% don't even care enough to vote. Those were the CPD Democratic voters that did not vote in the FOP election. Your so screwed.
disanti ??? that F'n moron!!!
Poor K.K. Sold his soul and Tried his best to sling mud on Facebook to try and get back in the game as a trustee and got EMBARRASSED!! Sorry, answer those jobs pal, the offices in the hall are so relaxing and comfortable I love it!!!!
Watch yourself with JCAT! Only the young guys and people who DONT know John are the ones voting for him. From all the people who know and work with him I just say really consider your vote and don’t fall for all the antics and videos.
Who the F keeps voting for Donahue????
SCC,
That is still a better turnout than what the civilian union had. SEIU Local 73, has approximately 25K members statewide, their leadership election ran the election twice (2nd time monitored by the Dept. Of Labor) in both instances, barely 10% bothered to vote. A sad state of affairs for any union membership.
It’s time this union grows a set !! It’s not business as usual in these times of blame the Police for everything. The city, the department and media step all over us without anyone in our corner. No more , Elect Cat !
It seems a wee bit top heavy, doesn't it? They really need three VPs? That's a lot of salaries.
First of all thank you scc for all the work you do on this blog, it's much appreciated. So out of 18,000 ballots being sent out only 8,300 were sent back. That's just pathetic, you actually think these same people are even thinking of going out to vote for Conway? They wont even mail a self addressed postage paid envelope with their choice of the president of their union let alone physically go to a polling place to cast a vote.
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
Yes, in a perfect world and playing with normal people I agree with what you said. But, we are dealing with assholes who hate us, just like with liberals and Trump you cant play nice with these people because they will roll right over you. Those days are long gone as Trump has showed us, stop taking hits and start hitting back!
How's it going to look if the incredibly unstable catanzara wins and then gets fired? That's what the city is trying to do and they have plenty of ammo to get it done. Use your heads people. Remember when we were taught in the academy to not ALWAYS go in on level 10? That's the only level this guy has and it will be a disaster.
FOP positions in every pd is usually stacked with go along to get along guys. They are also useless because they refuse to fight for us and would rather not "rock the boat" as they say. Ask around to any guys on other pd's, they will say the same with FOP reps. They look out for themselves. Dump FOP and get any union that does not have skin in the game, Teamsters, MAAP, and no political advantage like a spot in a unit when they leave etc.
The city gives no fucks about us.
Catanzara is willing to at least be vocal.
Its what we need from the FOP. Even if nothing changes lets at least have someone who will piss off the mayor. Vote J Cat and maybe he can really show Lightgroot what an FOP clown can be.
Bye Marty, welcome back to 024.
Graham is just a vote for Donahue and the failed administrations of the past. 29 years on this job and not one good leader yet. Graham didn't get anything done in his term so it's time to try someone else. There should be term limits in the FOP. I'm pretty sure these are the same people that want term limits in our city, state and federal government. What have we got to lose ...vote Catanzara!!
J-Cat is a loose cannon who has no idea how to be diplomatic and negotiate. Worse, he is a medical abuser. Finally, he has been known to get CR numbers on other policemen over stupid shit.
Do we want a petty, thin-skinned, loudmouth with no filter to represent us in the media? They already hate us. If he get in they will be saying he is representative of all the police.
John, come on here and dispute that you are medical abuser and deny that you have gotten multiple numbers on other coppers.
Graham isn't much better, but I compare it yo Bernie or Biden. I would go with the establishment centrist over the crazy commie.
Anonymous said...
God, so many of the same d-bags re-elected....Bella, Caparelli, Donahue, Duckhorn, Shogren, Hauser, DeMaria, Trevino....just fucking go away already. Well, at least Aguilar lost. Hey Rich, can you finally just ride off into the sunset now?
3/06/2020 12:48:00 AM
I agree, didn’t Rich lose in the last election and was appointed anyway? You wonder why people don’t vote, not just because they never received their ballots.
It seems that the most people who vote are the supporters of the same elected people.
Like sticky booger’s, you can’t get rid of them....;)
I’m glad Easy Money didn’t win. He can still work the Mayor’s House in 014 without having to worry about FOP business! Stay awake Easy!!!!
I can't believe we're stuck with these do nothing trustees for another term. The same bunch of people who have failed to uphold the contract against the city and better the membership.
Ask yourself, is your job better than it was four years ago?
Of course not!!
it's dramatically more complex, difficult and fraught with threats from all sides. Plus WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RAISE in three years.
Did the FOP vote themselves a raise?!? What about the about the membership?
I only voted for names I had never read before because the lodge needs a clean sweep.
JCat has my vote!
Anonymous said...
Membership is fucked either way with do nothing Graham crackers and 3 more years of negotiating or some wild card who may be taking 30 pending! We are our own worst enemy!
3/06/2020 12:22:00 AM
Three more years of negotiating? Maybe you’ve been sleeping but we are in arbitration. The reason we are in arbitration is because Graham said “NO” to the city’s demands.
Jesus Christ, would you fucking retirees just quit reliving the good old days and let the guys on the job now run their own union?! Do you have to control the FOP until you actually die? Even though you are no longer bargaining unit members for over a decade? Sometimes 2 decades? Please, for the love of God stop mooching off the kids working now. Just let it go.
Hey dumbass someday hopefully you may retire and guess what you will still need someone looking out for you so yes we retirees will keep voting. I think you should worry about current active members voting because obviously if 8000 votes were cast at least half were from retirees looking to make sure your benefits don’t get taken away in retirement. We are all stronger together don’t try to put a wedge between active and retirees remember we were all in your shoes.
Retired 2019
Anonymous said...
I was really leaning towards Graham but after reading the other posts tonight maybe Groot needs a taste of JCat....Still undecided.
3/06/2020 01:13:00 AM
Yeah right, Lightfoot is just the type that will have Catanzara over to her house for dinner and give us everything he asks for. She could care less who is FOP President but if he’s an asshole to her she could slam the door shut and fuck with us.
(1) Congrats for getting rid of that shtbag Aguilar (well at least until the new president appoints him to field rep)
(2) Congrats for putting Prieb in his place (no-one needs a mediocre author who uses ghost writers running a union)
(3) Here is hoping that next election installs actual working officers and NOT another cadre of fckn retired guys--seriously- Bella again, Duckhorn, Nenad, Donaghue....fck these guys they are in it for the money and subsidized socializing
Anonymous said...
City is terrified of J-Cat winning this election so their plan is to try and fire him.
GO J-CAT!!!!!!!!!
3/06/2020 01:58:00 AM
Terrified??? You really think the city gives a fuck who the FOP president is? With all the mayors office has to do on a day to day basis you think they are thinking about FOP? If Lightfoot and her people don’t like Jcat they don’t have to talk to him ever. And then what?
20/20 again this guy has some balls. And that’s what we need. A loud person so everyone can hear it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
Really, cause Lightfoot has shown Kevin so much respect so far. Look at CTU, they told Lightfoot to pound sand and she offered them more. I think the majority of us are sick of the empty threats and strongly worded letters that have been coming from our Lodge. It's time that we stop cowering to City Hall and stop electing representatives that can be bought with the promise of a better gig with the County or National FOP Lodge... Good luck John!
Anonymous said...
Hope Catanza wins, The fOP needs a crazy fuck like him running the zero FOP. The former President of FOP, make believe Mr PhD Angelo who got his doctorate degree from Great America online University, is still driving the car he stole from FOP. He was a complete J.O and scared of a lighting. Catanza will make the carpetbagger mayor, of only certain parts of the city show fear when seeing or hearing him.
Let the Circus begin. I voted for Marty anyway, he is a good man with a brain.
really wish Preib would have won, but whatever. And we tried a moron with huge balls, His name was Sheilds. Having the balls filming Huberman trying to get a pension - ya, it worked for me, I voted for Shields. But I regret it. You need someone with experience in there. Balls is good but balls ain't enough, not in today's day and age. You need someone with a brain. Cataranza doesn't look too bright.
How did Dennis McGuire win? You gotta be kidding me. Is it like the Judge Ballots where everyone just votes for the Irish names? Do any of the voters even know him or ever worked with/around him? He is incapable of listening to anyone, knows it all, dodges work like the best of em, and seriously not shut the f@#k up!! He will close talk the whole entire office to death. CFD will be looking for the gas leak, but no, it will just be Dennis McGuire standing there as the lone survivor because he talked the entire FOP staff to death. Then he'll start working on the CFD staff and if they dont get outta there fast, they're dead too. The homicide detectives will never figure it out and it will end up as a cold case. Forget about the Corona virus, we have to worry about the McGuire-ona virus. God damn it.
01:18:00am... and there ladies and gentlemen is why there is no respect for anything anymore.
You are a total douche bag.
sorry fo r the last post I was confusing Casiano for Cattaranza for not looking too bright.
We all better pray Kevin Graham gets re-elected. This is not the mayor to have a guy like Cantanzara in as president. She will disconnect her phone and change her address. We will get absolutely nothing accomplished.
REALLY? What are we getting done now? She calls us clowns. She isn't negotiating our contract in good faith. No one from the FOP gets our story out there. All the city gets is Google Me's bullshit spin whose direction comes from Groot's office. JC will tell our version. He will get coverage because he will call bullshit on the mayor and her 50 thieves and the media loves a show. The media will eat it up. The Thunderdome with JS and LL.
J-Cat!! Let’s Go!!!!
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
Your post is one big contradiction. If Groot already disregards us with diplomatic Graham, what have we got to lose with a boisterous and "tells it like it is" Cantazara? How can Groot make things any worse than they are? We need someone to battle with her not put their head down and stand in the corner. I'm going with the guy who will battle the mayor.
12:33AM says vote for Graham cause Lightfoot will treat us real bad if John gets elected. How ridiculous that statement is. How much worse can she treat us. Rather have a guy who stands on his feet when she slaps us, than a guy who crawls on his knees and says that was good can I have another. Vote for John.
I voted Prieb so now I’ll vote for Graham. No way I’m voting for a loud mouth douche.
Why are people still voting for Graham??? I don’t get it!!! We need change and a voice that is willing to stand up for us!!! Vote for John!!! Let’s not repeat our past mistakes!!! Change only comes by making a Change!!!
Fuck Graham. What has he done. Nothing. I hope JC wins!
Man this isn’t the time to put your tail between your legs like scared dog!!! It’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. The only way to beat a Bully is with a Bigger Bully!!! Stop being afraid of Lightfoot, she can only push us as far as we allow her to!!! If we continue to lay down she will continue to walk on us!!! Don’t you guys get it!!! It’s time to Stand United ABD Strong!!! Vote for John!!!
Would you donate your salary to someone who is in trouble. Well Markovich is doing just that. Hundreds of coppers are stripped yearly and then allegations found to be untrue. I worked with him both at cha and in cpd and if u called a 10-1 you wanted him to show. So go fuck your self !
Thank god the “Cliwn” Pat Murray lost!!! All he cared about was his paycheck. He never returned calls and was always out of the office. Mette is a stand up guy and will take care of the membership!
Lori slaps Graham around and she’s only 5 feet tall
"Kevin rented at bus to pick up about 100 PPO’s today and marched them in at lunch time to vote"
So it was HIS fault there was the fucking line at the FOP hall to vote in person!?
Everyone in line was asking why there were so many recruits there and why they were getting to vote ahead of PO's in line, many (like myself) off duty, there on their own time to vote. Recruits should've been made to wait until PO's went.
Perhaps the ratio of ballots mailed vs ballots returned is so off because many were never received...based by the wait & number of people in line, alot of people never got them. When I inquired before being told I had to vote in person, secretary said my ballot was "returned to sender" They had an old address. Funny thing is the guy that lives there always gives me any mail I get, so I'm thinking they never sent it.
Without a contract for 3 years and counting, a record number of returned/wrong address ballots, why should we vote for the same old situation?
For trustees, besides picking most on the Vision team, I tried to vote for active guys from districts, not retirees. You should be still working, our contract effects those guys, not the retirees as much.
The guys thinking Catanzara can't or won't be able to negotiate and move forward with the city are the same types of people that thought Trump was going to get us into WW3 everytime he wouldn't back down to some 3rd world regime. We see how that turned out time & time again. If you vote for what you have now, there's a good chance you're going to keep getting what you're getting which is no progress.
***That's not a bad thing. Simply because you have the right to vote** doesn't mean you should be voting, particularly if you don't know what's going on.
This especially applies to local, state and federal elections. All this "get out the vote" crap just causes more waiting at the polls while people punch cards because they like how someone's name sounds.
rb
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
The dumbest thing I've ever heard!
I predict a tremendous amount of internal fighting no matter the outcome of the run off. If Cat is elected the mayor will not negotiate with the FOP. Good luck but make sure you vote. Thankfully Kevin beat Marty and Donahue's plan backfired.
To the A HOLE who posted that retirees ruined the election needs to know that we stay members because we founded this union and paid our dues to earn our pensions, we paid into it so we could get a pension just like you are doing, the only difference is that we retirees had good work ethics unlike you Millennials who lack that. Stop crying and do your job and maybe you will get a pension check too.
Think the Deacon outsmarted himself.
With Team 376 in charge of FLOP Lozenge #7, anchovy pizza is poised to make a comeback at general meetings.
Congrats Monica.
You it least know what is really important.
Too bad you still have a lot of the old guard to put up with.
Best of Luck..
Old 001District
162C
Graham or Cantanzar? One with experience or one who promises you everything just to get your vote. Think before you vote. Do you want someone who has dealt with the problems or someone who will lie to your face. This is a serious issue that will last 3 years! A vote for Graham is a solid vote in the right direction.
More of the same or change? What did Graham really do? Please tell us in bullet points and make it something real. So many times people have said where is the union on this and that, and never a peep. Of course they want to fire JCat, he will ask and expect answers to tough questions. He will not be bought or will stay silent as others have done. If you want a union with more bite, you have only one choice. Graham had his chance to show what he could do. JCat has always been polite and professional speaking to the council and mayor. But he expects real answers and the corrupt types don't like to give them. She wants a puppet not someone that will cause her grief. I would bet she is watching this very closely. And as she is really the one running the department she surely wants him fired.
We already had presidents who were nice to all the past mayor's and what did it get us, shit on. Maybe it's time for someone to stand up to the mayor not cuddle with them, then later get a cushy spot. New York FOP President stands up and tells it like it is not like ours....
I think we need change, and if catanzara is taking 30 then so be it, prolly cuz of his mouth and that's what we need someone to stand up for us
JCAT , your the most exciting thing that’s happened to Cpd in a long time buddy! You got this!
I don’t like either of them, KG panders, JC likes attention, I see him as more of a negative, I’m looking long term. JC has to much baggage with department and he’s not done yet, If KG wins it will definitely be the last election he wins. VOTE
Anonymous said...
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
I'll continue to be jovial and diplomatic on the streets. While I'm being fetal and doing nothing, it's better to have someone like J Cat sticking his thumb in the eye of City Hall. J Cat is a goof but very knowledgeable in many important aspects.
Graham was waaay too docile as president. Whenever the media contacted the FOP about Exempts making the news for corruption like Anthony Escamerit, they said nothing. Graham should have held a press conference lambasting that piece of merit shit but he didn't do anything.
Graham's excuse was that he had to have a friendly relationship with Eddie Johnson. Uh, no we don't. Johnson would recommend suspensions for officers that the police board would go and fire anyway so what use was he? It's become very apparent that these Commanders that are joined at the hip with the scumbag politicians are the real enemy. Not the retarded gangbangers. J Cat gets my vote just for the fact alone that he will piss off the people that I hate!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Jesus Christ, would you fucking retirees just quit reliving the good old days and let the guys on the job now run their own union?! Do you have to control the FOP until you actually die? Even though you are no longer bargaining unit members for over a decade? Sometimes 2 decades? Please, for the love of God stop mooching off the kids working now. Just let it go.
Maybe the reason is because you fucking PO's don't vote just complain, 8300 voted and you think that the retirees are the problem get real
Don’t forget what graham/ Donahue did to OToole. If Graham is re-elected, Donahue calls the shots.
OMG, we have to vote for Graham so he can play nice with the mayor. We can't pick someone that's not going to be nice to her, otherwise the city will treat us bad.
So he w did all that experience work for you the last three years without a contract. You need change not the same Clowns in charge. Why is that so hard for you all to see. You need a pot stirrer not a go along to get along type. It hasn’t worked in the past. Why do you think your all in the place you are. Prime reason is no one is fighting for you. I very change or negative comment about the CPD should be challenged. The MSM loves to cover a good fight. Your FOP needs to stop Ike back hard. Look at the NYPD union and mirror their actions they do it right.
Anonymous said...
Who the fuck would vote for Markovich? Dirty piece of shit who got his entire team stripped for his criminal behavior. He was fired for God's sake. What is wrong with you guys, and cataranza? Seriously, all he is going to do is piss everyone off. You need people who can play hard ball and make deals at the same time, pissing in everyone's cheerios is not a good characteristic. It's like voting for kim fox.
3/06/2020 01:19:00 AM
There's stories from Hegewisch including from a few current and retired POs about the Sgt at Arms. Let's just say that his behavior before getting on the job should have disqualified him from ever being hired. I'm pretty sure I can't post the specific reason,but he's been very lucky throughout his life not to pay the consequences of his actions.
We all better pray Kevin Graham gets re-elected. This is not the mayor to have a guy like Cantanzara in as president. She will disconnect her phone and change her address. We will get absolutely nothing accomplished.
3/06/2020 12:55:00 AM
Yeh. The last couple of administration's have done wonders for you.....
Congrats Danny G! Your the only one who ever came through for me. We got your back.
It’s obvious that whomever is elected president, must come up with a strategy to deal with this mayor. It seems to be that she wants to push people, resulting in some jobs action. This may take the form of a ticket slow down, ticket blitz or blue flu. Once a union official or rep advocates for any job action she will declare the contract void and hammer the troops. I wonder if enough of the political flunky trustees, many of which are in the city’s pocket, will be able to once again neutralize the elected officers, doing the biding of the politicians.
Never got my ballot. Called the fop and they told me to vote on election day. I told them I would be out of town for a planned vacation. They said nothing they could do.
Graham is a nice man and I wish him well after his service in our union , but he was a welcome mat for city hall. He didn't want to be , he just is . Vote for Catanzara and finish this thing !!
We lose residency we lose many places like my greenwood. Your homes will be worth nothing. No tax base. It’s good for two year wonders who don’t own. And people running who had their condos foreclosed on. You need to think of your futute
My vote is for John, lift residency!
I'm not on the job, [Dad & Grandpa were]. So I can relate stories from back before there was police representation and contracts.
Your present FOP leadership walks around like newly castrated cattle. No fight in any of them. You need someone who is willing to file a federal lawsuits and leverage that with the administration. Look to have a federal judge seize all TIF accounts to publicly audit them and secure your pension. Hold them accountable for past broken contracts. File suit if ONE promotion is made via merit rather than a promotional list. Hold pressers if a merit boss steps in shit, and name them and shame them. Demand that your civil right not be infringed upon, in federal court. Graham has had a term and accomplished nothing. Give Catanzara a shot, he can't screw the pooch any worse.
Catanzara has gotten cr numbers on other coppers wake up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
I second that! I can only hope that Kevin wins, I feel like it will only be in our best interest. I know that some members might feel like we need some one like John Cat because he has "balls" but you need more than that. Anyone can have balls and be a loud mouth
2.54am,,,,,,keep on doing those bong hits
I would bet you $1K it is just the opposite. Lightfoot want's JC to win. Remember, we have an image problem. Do you honestly think any thing he says in any public forum will be taken seriously?
The lead story will be, "The Union representing the officers, headed by an officer who has been stripped of his police powers several times, has said this and that..."
Think, "Former police officer committed this crime."
She will absolutely love this. She won't have to badmouth us because she has him bringing discredit on us. Don't even get me started on civil litigation and using his words against us in court...
I am hopeful he will realize the problem with acting the way he has in the past, but am too much of a realist...
We are doomed....
Still don't understand how Donahue snuck in and won. Every single officer i spoke with wanted him out of FOP. Next time.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There will be a run off for FOP president between Catanzara (Donald Trump) and Kevin Graham (Joe Biden). Kevin like a good Democrat stuffed the ballot box. He gets to sign up the recruits at the academy and none of the other candidates gets to talk to them. Kevin rented at bus to pick up about 100 PPO’s today and marched them in at lunch time to vote. Kevin beat Marty Preib by 30 votes for second place. Although Mark Donahue won a trustee spot Catanzara’s ticket won a controlling number of board positions. Mark’s power just dropped to nothing. But Donahue was still seen pulling the eyelets for his puppet strings out off Marty Preib’s joints and trying to reinsert them into Kevin Graham. Sorry to say Kevin Graham did not resist.
No Trump’s home isn’t in foreclosure and Trump
Doesn’t put several complaints on his co workers for things he doesn’t like-like a crybaby.
Graham sucks balls, but you people rooting on the other guy like it’s a homecoming rally are clueless. There was a reason he was assigned as the paper car at Northwestern Hospital when such a position never existed before.
46% turnout might be the best ever, but 8,300 isn’t much which includes untold amount to retirees voting.
Sorry-assed way to show solidarity even if the slates were weak, those 9,000 should be ashamed for not returning a ballot.
The results are laughable to LightLoafer or Prickwrinkle.
One thing for sure is that the lazy 9,000 will be singing the blues when the arbiter sides with the corrupt city.
Regardless of who wins this FOOP runoff, don’t expect Larri to come around with any good gestures.
Balls o’Brass...
Whoever gets the final win won’t mean much beyond that title.
Graham MAGA Crackers is more a statesman that could use a bit more spice but he won’t be getting any media coverage and unfortunately even the scrappy Cat-man will be pegged as plain old evil, he will never be able to crack a deal the angry midge Lari LightLoafuer who is hellbent on breaking the FOP.
Either candidate...show no mercy or trust towards the angry toad who has never been on the good side of law and order.
I remember waiting patiently for a spunky, eye of the tiger Mike Shields (1-term) to hold Rahm’s feet to the fire.
what do you have to lose with john? In this day and age do you really think your going to be taken seriously? With this mayor? with this city council? with these lib tards that want to fire us for anything we do?? Graham hasn't done shit for us, only the bare minimum. I'm sorry, I want someone who balls to speak the truth, who isn't afraid of anybody and someone who wants to shake it up. John is a refreshing choice finally, For 26 years I've seen the same old bullshit, with every president, promise to do everything but we get screwed in the end. We need John!!! at least with John, the citizens will hear where we stand and they just might support us!!!
Later white you complete goof. Go video yourself again giving shoes to homeless people and post it on the web what a clown
A vote for Graham equals a vote for every one of these tools running the FOP for the past 27 years I’ve been on.
They sell out the membership so their sons, daughters, nephews, nieces, grandsons, granddaughters and step-kids
get made sergeant, detective or whatever lazy four hour day spot they desire.
If you’ve been on long enough you know exactly what I’m saying is true.
Are you a sucker?
I used to be.
Not anymore.
Those days are over.
KMA.
John Catanzara has been a problem child for CPD his entire career
GOOD!!!
That’s EXACTLY what we need. The polite brown nosing sellouts have gotten us NOTHING but where we are now.
We need an a-hole now more than ever.
A life sized one..just like John Catanzara.
And only we as an organization can shove her up Lori’s behind and flip his ON switch.
Nobody else is gonna get anything done with her.
She’s gonna make mincemeat out of Kevin and Company and you all know it just like I do.
Don’t believe me? How did the CPS teachers fold Lori like a little pretzel?
With one of the biggest a-holes in Chicago that’s how!
His name is Jesse Sharkey and he got those teachers what they wanted.
Teachers are smart, yes they’re pus-headed liberal SJW’s but they picked the right
tool for the job and he got it done for the teachers union. HUGE a-hole.
Kicked Lori and her minions a$$es.
Now is not the time for another moron for her to steamroll.
When will cops ever learn?
They are always their own worst enemy.
Flip the script.
Let’s give her someone she can’t control. She hates us and hates Kevin.
No matter who runs FOP she’s gonna hate them.
Let’s fight back for once.
Jesus!
Gorman will have to be the voice of reason for all of them. Good God.
While I have nothing against the other candidate, Kevin Graham met and respected our president, Donald J. Trump, at the airport when none of these useless, sjw Chicago and Illinois democrats were there to meet him.
I have to go with Kevin Graham. He earned my vote during his tenure and the respect he showed to our president sealed the deal for me.
Fuck you Groot! And, fuck you Preckwinkle!
Every 5 year or less wonder is starry eyed with catanzara because of his videos. Wake up people, catanzarra has gotten numerous CR numbers on other police officers. He is only doing this to save himself and his pension as he is possibly facing termination and is stripped. If he becomes president he can hide at fop and they can’t discipline him. He can get a few more years of health care then retire and avoid being fired. This is about John and John only. He has caused several GOOD and REAL police officers to take time because of his antics. Just goes to show that the kids on this job will be fooled by anyone who pretends to talk a good game because that’s all John has been for the past 17 years I have known him on this department.. a talker who pretends to be something he is not. Don’t fall for it kids, one day you will understand...
Don’t blame me! I wrote in Cooter.
Donahue shows up at the OPLEO meetings, smiles, shakes everyone's hand, then sticks a knife up your ass. What a un trust worthy JO.
Ray Casiano is a mush. He screwed up so many grievances when he was up at the FOP.
Thank God he lost. What a loser !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
01:18:00am... and there ladies and gentlemen is why there is no respect for anything anymore.
You are a total douche bag.
Fuck no. The original poster is right on. No retired member should be voting for on active FOP issues or elections. A board comprised of active and retired should be instituted. No retiree votes for elections. It’s bullshit. You have no interest in active matter. Only retiree matters, which active does also. Why the fuck are retirees allowed to vote in elections
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Hope Catanza wins, The fOP needs a crazy fuck like him running the zero FOP. The former President of FOP, make believe Mr PhD Angelo who got his doctorate degree from Great America online University, is still driving the car he stole from FOP. He was a complete J.O and scared of a lighting. Catanza will make the carpetbagger mayor, of only certain parts of the city show fear when seeing or hearing him.
Let the Circus begin. I voted for Marty anyway, he is a good man with a brain.
really wish Preib would have won, but whatever. And we tried a moron with huge balls, His name was Sheilds. Having the balls filming Huberman trying to get a pension - ya, it worked for me, I voted for Shields. But I regret it. You need someone with experience in there. Balls is good but balls ain't enough, not in today's day and age. You need someone with a brain. Cataranza doesn't look too bright.
3/06/2020 09:17:00 AM
Strangely your comment about Catazara is exactly what the democrats said about Trump who is the greatest President of all time at this moment!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
Really, cause Lightfoot has shown Kevin so much respect so far. Look at CTU, they told Lightfoot to pound sand and she offered them more. I think the majority of us are sick of the empty threats and strongly worded letters that have been coming from our Lodge. It's time that we stop cowering to City Hall and stop electing representatives that can be bought with the promise of a better gig with the County or National FOP Lodge... Good luck John!
3/06/2020 09:17:00 AM
Ummmmm....you’re comparing the CTU to the police union??? Maybe you’ve been under a rock or new on the job but there’s a HUGE difference. It’s call a STRIKE. They can strike and tell the mayor to pound sand. The police can’t. It’s federal law. Pay attention
So JC is all over facebook posting the reasons he's currently stripped. That's just the reason THS TIME, people. It's not his first. He's also been psyched off the job TWICE. Worked in a district with him. The guy is absolutely ridiculous, and those that have worked with him know exactly what I mean. Have we gotten so low that we'll actually elect the first loud mouth that comes along and tries to run for a position just to save his job? Don't listen to his minions that are running around saying city hall is afraid of this guy. Seriously?! He is looked at as a big joke. Nobody there takes him seriously and they never will. If you try to ask him any questions about his unstable past on the job, he gets furious and yells or storms off. In fact he does that if you dare disagree with him about anything. Do you think his sordid past won't come out in the media if he wins? THIS is who you want to represent you to the public? This fiasco will be another black eye for us. And stop comparing him to Trump. That's just stupid.
“ Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Membership is fucked either way with do nothing Graham crackers and 3 more years of negotiating or some wild card who may be taking 30 pending! We are our own worst enemy!
3/06/2020 12:22:00 AM
Three more years of negotiating? Maybe you’ve been sleeping but we are in arbitration. The reason we are in arbitration is because Graham said “NO” to the city’s demands.“
If we are in arbitration, can you name the arbitrator? No, you can’t because one hasn’t been picked therefore we are not yet in arbitration, asshat!
I’m voting for the crazy guy. I was told he’s in hot water because he did case report that put Johnson and father faker as offenders for trespass on the Expressway. If that’s true I love it. Thats the kinda Crazy we need and he gets my vote
That's some funny shit, every election we hear the same shit, we need change and every President that is voted in does the same exact thing.They come out before the election say what a great job they plan on doing with their team and then they are ghost until the next election! No one seems to be doing the job for the officer's, they seem to be doing the job for the pay bump. Can't understand why we need 4 four dam 1st,2nd,3rd 4th president's.So me you are doing this for the job and for the officer's by keeping your same pay grade
By definition ignorance is doing the same or electing the same people and hoping for a better result. Won't happen you need a change of leadership. Current leaderships silence on all the major issues you are dealing with is deafening. Kevin needs to be out of a job.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
***That's not a bad thing. Simply because you have the right to vote** doesn't mean you should be voting, particularly if you don't know what's going on.
This especially applies to local, state and federal elections. All this "get out the vote" crap just causes more waiting at the polls while people punch cards because they like how someone's name sounds.
rb
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
The dumbest thing I've ever heard!
3/06/2020 10:35:00 AM"
TO: 3/06/2020 10:35:00 AM
You are 100% correct.
I was going to rant about voting, not only in FOP
elections, but all elections. I changed my mind.
Voting is a requirement of membership or citizenship.
You either do it or you shirk it.
"Yeah right, Lightfoot is just the type that will have Catanzara over to her house for dinner and give us everything he asks for. She could care less who is FOP President but if he’s an asshole to her she could slam the door shut and fuck with us."
"... slam the door shut and fuck with us."
How much more can she fuck with us?
Really, what more can she do to hurt cops?
Give us a goof Sup? Seen them.
Cancel days off? Change assignments? Already been done.
Take away our pensions? She's trying to.
Give more oversight? Happening!
What more can she do to us???
What can we do to her?
12,000 cops being totally LEGAL.
I'm NOT talking about enforcing ALL the laws, like littering,
changing CTA train cars, noise, stop signs, etc.
I'm saying be 110% sure that whatever you're doing is
within all the laws, procedures, Rules, and orders.
Never go into a gray area for the benefit of the city or CPD.
BE LEGAL.
Don't cut corners.
BE LEGAL.
No more foot or car chases.
BE LEGAL.
RE:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
While Graham is not perfect...
Catanzara has stepped in more crap on this job than someone running with the bulls in Mexico for three days wearing snow shoes.
———————————————————————————————
The running of the bulls is in Spain you moron!!!!!
I hope your ballot got lost in the mail.
Anonymous said...
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
Your post is one big contradiction. If Groot already disregards us with diplomatic Graham, what have we got to lose with a boisterous and "tells it like it is" Cantazara? How can Groot make things any worse than they are? We need someone to battle with her not put their head down and stand in the corner. I'm going with the guy who will battle the mayor.
3/06/2020 09:42:00 AM
I'm with you brother! Vote for John. Kevin had his chance.
Anonymous said...
Jesus Christ, would you fucking retirees just quit reliving the good old days and let the guys on the job now run their own union?! Do you have to control the FOP until you actually die? Even though you are no longer bargaining unit members for over a decade? Sometimes 2 decades? Please, for the love of God stop mooching off the kids working now. Just let it go.
Hey dumbass someday hopefully you may retire and guess what you will still need someone looking out for you so yes we retirees will keep voting. I think you should worry about current active members voting because obviously if 8000 votes were cast at least half were from retirees looking to make sure your benefits don’t get taken away in retirement. We are all stronger together don’t try to put a wedge between active and retirees remember we were all in your shoes.
Retired 2019
3/06/2020 08:51:00 AM
Poster #1 is a douche bag. #2 you are spot on.
Retired in 2018
Anonymous Anonymous said...
8,300 ballots returned out of 18,000 mailed? Damn! In today’s climate with the current mayoral administration! That’s really pathetic. Of the 8,300 people that voted, I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet that half of them, at least, are retired officers. The people elected as Trustees are once again overwhelmingly retired too. This was an election to vote for the people you want representing you in contract negotiations and protecting your working conditions. Nice job boys and girls.
3/06/2020 01:04:00 AM
Have no idea of where they got the 18,000 ballots mailed. That number has to be inflated. There are over 3,000 sgts, lts and above so even with 10,000 pos and detective are you saying there are 8,000 dues paying FOP retirees. 8,000 retires, not just 8,000 but they are dues paying. Doubt that
Anonymous I Know a Thing or Two said...
To: 3/06/2020 06:58:00 AM
We already tried that shit when we elected Mike Shields. His presidency is responsible for the horrible state of Lodge 7 and the Illinois State Lodge. Everything is in chaos because Dean Angelo was elected to replace the incompetent Shields. Angelo was even more incompetent. So, now you think we should try it again with another lunatic like Catanzara?
Complain all you want about the lack of a contract, but it’s because of all of the rights the city is trying to strip away from us. Graham didn’t give in and sell us out like Dean Angelo did when Angelo negotiated a contract instead of going to arbitration. Graham also had to deal with all of the fallout from the Shields and Angelo administrations.
Graham hasn’t folded on any of the disciplinary protections the City is trying to remove from our contract. Catanzara might be able to dazzle some of you with promises of residency, raises, and retro, but even if he could deliver on those things they don’t mean shit if you don’t have a job.
Graham may not be the best choice, but he is definitely the better choice. He has the experience to run this organization and maybe get it back on track.
So who is investigating that stack of 40 some votes postmarked from 2017 election?
(didnt get an email either)
We have an election committee yet the seem kinda slow on the up take like they have trouble with investigating mail tampering.
So fraud is evident yet everybody at the lodge thought it was funny. I crack up watching 70 year old retiree worry about a union election that can barely walk.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Think the Deacon outsmarted himself.
3/06/2020 11:05:00 AM
Amen
Common sense is not very common.
I voted for Casiano because his name looks like casino and I love going to the casino. I honestly don’t give a fiddlers fuck who gets in just want my retro to get back to the casiano.
We need fighters, not writers. GO CAT GO !!!
I Know John and have worked with John.
IM VOTING FOR JOHN
He doesn't need to defend the fact that he defends himself.
What happened to all the people that said j-cat had no chance?
54% couldn't be bothered to vote. City Hall is watching this and knows they can take as long as they want to settle contract. No unity in the CPD is and has been your biggest problem. You all need to come together as one voice not 10,000 voices whining the wind. The other two or three thousand have just given up. There is strength in a unified body and you my friends are far from unified.
United we stand divided we fall. With a 46% turnout we are hardly united. Something has to change quickly. If you did not vote you have no right to bitch. It is your union and your future at stake. Believe my City Hall is taking notice of the apathy. They have our balls in their hands and take great delight in squeezing them to hear us all squeal. Unify or die.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I would bet you $1K it is just the opposite. Lightfoot want's JC to win. Remember, we have an image problem. Do you honestly think any thing he says in any public forum will be taken seriously?
The lead story will be, "The Union representing the officers, headed by an officer who has been stripped of his police powers several times, has said this and that..."
Think, "Former police officer committed this crime."
She will absolutely love this. She won't have to badmouth us because she has him bringing discredit on us. Don't even get me started on civil litigation and using his words against us in court...
I am hopeful he will realize the problem with acting the way he has in the past, but am too much of a realist...
We are doomed....
3/06/2020 03:10:00 PM
100% right! Catanzara would be horrendous for our image. The media has already started talking negative about him. Graham is experienced and professional. It’s not his fault we are almost 3 years without a contract. The city made unrealistic demands and dragged their feet so now it’s arbitration just like almost every single contract.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“ Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Membership is fucked either way with do nothing Graham crackers and 3 more years of negotiating or some wild card who may be taking 30 pending! We are our own worst enemy!
3/06/2020 12:22:00 AM
Three more years of negotiating? Maybe you’ve been sleeping but we are in arbitration. The reason we are in arbitration is because Graham said “NO” to the city’s demands.“
If we are in arbitration, can you name the arbitrator? No, you can’t because one hasn’t been picked therefore we are not yet in arbitration, asshat!
3/06/2020 05:39:00 PM
Yes we are dope. It’s been filed and they have eliminated one or two arbitrators. Ben is out. I’m hearing they picked one. So no, it won’t be 3 more years. Pay attention
The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We have had the docile, compliant take it in the ass FOP Presidents. Just in different suits every new regime... getting bent over by the city for the 23 years I’ve been here. Graham had his turn. He got nothing done and only went to arbitration to attempt to get re-elected. JCat gets his turn and my vote. If he doesn’t work out he will be voted out next time. It’s time for the pendulum to swing the other way and get someone in that is similar to Lynch in NYC police benevolent association. Someone with some cajones and a fire in his belly. That’s what he will be.
Bunch of deplorables!
Vote for Graham!Better with the devil you know, than the devil you don't know!
1. City hall does not want John Cat to win...... why? Because he will exposes the mayor and city council for the frauds that they are. (full stop end of story.)
2. Talk sh-t all day about J- Cat, but Graham was the day guard officer for Rahm Emmanuels House in 019, and sold his house in Edgebrook to Rahm Emmanuel's Uncle.
(full stop end of story.)
3. Grahm had his chance and now the union will move onto the next opportunity....that opportunity is call J-Catazara
4. Vision 20/20 was elected resoundingly by the membership. Complete the mission....Elect J-Catazara.
5. 5% a year for 10 years to wear a body camera and be perfect in every way. That's the monster that the Democratic machine created.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Jesus Christ, would you fucking retirees just quit reliving the good old days and let the guys on the job now run their own union?! Do you have to control the FOP until you actually die? Even though you are no longer bargaining unit members for over a decade? Sometimes 2 decades? Please, for the love of God stop mooching off the kids working now. Just let it go.
Hey dumbass someday hopefully you may retire and guess what you will still need someone looking out for you so yes we retirees will keep voting. I think you should worry about current active members voting because obviously if 8000 votes were cast at least half were from retirees looking to make sure your benefits don’t get taken away in retirement. We are all stronger together don’t try to put a wedge between active and retirees remember we were all in your shoes.
Retired 2019
3/06/2020 08:51:00 AM
Poster #1 is a douche bag. #2 you are spot on.
Retired in 2018
I concur but have to add he’s the douchenozzle, not the bag.
Retired in 2003
"Graham didn’t give in and sell us out like Dean Angelo did when Angelo negotiated a contract instead of going to arbitration...."
I didn't vote on any contract Angelo negotiated; and neither did you. All of our last 4 contracts went to arbitration. wtf are you talking about?
Reading some of these comments makes me sick ! Everyone is bitching about who got elected and why they got elected and they shouldn’t have been elected ! well I guess they cared enough to go to at least 5 meetings and be involved and put a petition to run for office. Easy to complain when you do not get involved and try to make a difference and be the change. Yet you guys are the first to complain about the union not doing enough to challenge the Dept and the city. Congrats to ALL that win and good luck to both John and Kevin. People like me will be there to help out . The rest of you who are just spewing hate and nasty comments. Go seek some help.
Graham is just a vote for Donahue and the failed administrations of the past. 29 years on this job and not one good leader yet. Graham didn't get anything done in his term so it's time to try someone else. There should be term limits in the FOP. I'm pretty sure these are the same people that want term limits in our city, state and federal government. What have we got to lose ...vote Catanzara!!
Medical abuser, about to maybe be fired and never did a lick of police work. Plus the Hubbard HS stuff ?
Morons
I Know John and have worked with John.
IM VOTING FOR JOHN
He doesn't need to defend the fact that he defends himsel
>>> Right 111 Days Suspended Domestic and Off Duty Incidents <<<<<<
Just YouTube Him
J Cat some tough guy while You Push your Squad
he was a School Officer Making YouTube Videos on City Time
We need fighters, not writers. GO CAT GO !!!
*Right 46 Complaints against this officer
Absence without Permission, Verbal, Domestic Abuse, insubordination Failure to arrest Beefs
BEST CAT COMMENT EVER!!!!
We already tried that shit when we elected Mike Shields. His presidency is responsible for the horrible state of Lodge 7 and the Illinois State Lodge
Go Krazy Again......
Anonymous said...
Jesus Christ, would you fucking retirees just quit reliving the good old days and let the guys on the job now run their own union?! Do you have to control the FOP until you actually die? Even though you are no longer bargaining unit members for over a decade? Sometimes 2 decades? Please, for the love of God stop mooching off the kids working now. Just let it go.
This Sounds Like a J CAT Rant
What Happened to all the People that said J Cat Had no Chance...
I guess when you have 111 Days Suspended FOP President Looks Great
BS will only go so Far Just Hit Google YouTube
Prediction If IF Catanza wins He will self Implode and take down FOP
Many Cops will get fired
Semper Fi
"He doesn't need to defend the fact that he defends himself."
This Officer's conduct Should Have been fired years ago
A very smart & intelligent man once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”
Vote JCAT!
Markovich....unbelievable. We are so f'ed.
Catazara epitomizes everything thats Wrong with CPD
Id certainly want a loud mouth neighborhood guy going up against polished educated city negotiators The Media will eat this guys lunch and we will suffer Character counts Im so not impressed that he went to the city council to lecture the then Mayor Emanuel He looked and acted a fool Great personal PR but Ask yourself Do you want a grand stander doing your bidding? If God forbid elected the city will have this guy over the barrel His Unprofessional conduct will hang himself and we will get hurt
Could someone explain why we need 3 Sgt of Arms?
Donahue is the dick durbin of the fop.
Anonymous said...
So who is investigating that stack of 40 some votes postmarked from 2017 election?
(didnt get an email either)
We have an election committee yet the seem kinda slow on the up take like they have trouble with investigating mail tampering.
So fraud is evident yet everybody at the lodge thought it was funny. I crack up watching 70 year old retiree worry about a union election that can barely walk.
3/06/2020 08:11:00 PM
Hey asshole if it was not for the retirees voting and caring about the elections, for you young bucks you would’ve probably had maybe 1000 votes return because you’re so damn lazy you can’t even send a vote back a free ballot with a free stamp, which strongly bet you’re voting for Bernie because you want everything free free free now go back to your mothers basement and put on your Star Wars pajamas and keep on blogging
Seiser doesn't run it?
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What a marooon!
Bugs
Every one of us that reads this blog will be retired someday. The retiree bashing needs to stop. As far as all the FOP administrations who allegedly have done nothing, take a good hard look at your contract books. Do you think all of these rights were given to us? No, they were fought for and earned by the Dineen’s, Nolan’s, and Donahue’s who took the time to run this union.
This is the deciding factor for me. Graham values the retirees while Catanzara has told retirees to their faces they should take a lesser role in our union. If a smart person pays attention to and learns from history, it seems like Catanzara isn’t as smart as he thinks he is.
What I find absolutely hilarious is that Catanzara tried to change our bylaws to cut out some of the dead wood and then partners with Bella, Brown, Duckhorn and Shogren. These four haven’t done anything for FOP members in years. If you do the math, they haven’t been on the street for over a century.
There are about 8000 retirees. It’s a miracle that Graham didn’t get 8000 votes in the election.
Diplomatic Graham means ball locker Graham. I’m voting for Catanzara we have nothing to lose. Maybe crazy is what we need because I know Gorman and Mette will keep him on the reservation. MAGA
Whoever wins needs to:
Cut their salary. These people running only do it for the money. People should run for the betterment of the department not their pocket books.
*Sergeant pay for president and VP and the rest of the board
*No need for 3 vice Presidents
*Term limits
*10% merit promotion
*1 merit promotion per career
*Pension based off last career service rank
*Residency waived after 20 years of service
*Hire real labor attorney's for contract negotiations
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone better vote for Kevin Graham this time because if Cantanzara wins we are screwed! We need an experienced professional in charge of FOP. Can you imagine how Lightfoot will treat the members with an angry hostile president yelling at her??? She already disregards us with a diplomatic experienced Kevin Graham in office. She could make our lives worse(if that’s possible)with Cantanzara. You young guys in love with Cantanzara and his videos better consider your future. Just like on the streets, you get better results by communicating and being diplomatic. Not by being the tough angry guy. Good luck Kevin!
3/06/2020 12:23:00 AM
No love for the Cat, but it's VERY sad that a big % of the rank and file are too lazy and or too stupid to vote.
"...100% right! Catanzara would be horrendous for our image."
A. Who gives a shit about our "image"? I care about our PAY our BENEFITS our contract, all the rights getting taken away from us. More & more scrutiny making it like walking through a minefield everyday at work.
B. People in society already have their own "image" of police. If you're a piece of shit, you don't like the police. Period. You could put Mother Theresa as our president and that certain element will still hate us. If you're decent, you will have a good-to-nuetral view of police. Again, doesn't matter who's in charge.
C. Mother Theresa could still be FOP president and 1 sensationalized video like the subway shooting will skew peoples opinion.
D. Again, who cares. It's Nice as a police officer to be appreciated, but it is not a requirement. Quite frankly, it's a better image to be seen as the head cracking, riot clearing police of the late 60's than the hug-a-thug movement we have going today (At least from a crime prevention standpoint)
We need someone who is aggressive enough to challenge the dept and city When they don't play ball, expose that. Far & wide. Let people know OUR side of every situation rather than the biased one sided version always coming out. When Catanzara wins and the gravity of the office sinks in, he will be fine dealing with the city. Not once in any of his videos did he lose his cool and start yelling or acting crazy. He was forceful and could not be ignored, which is Exactly what we need. Graham going to meet Trump? That's a positive for "US" as members?? No. It was a positive for HIM. Shit, if I was in a position to walk out on the tarmac to meet Trump I'd take it too! Want to be impressive? He should have arranged a closed-door rally at the FOP hall for any/all CPD to meet & greet Trump. That'd be using the position for the benefit of us members.
"Prediction If IF Catanza wins He will self Implode and take down FOP
Many Cops will get fired
Semper Fi"
Wow!... FOP president must be a VERY powerful position. If ONE man can accomplish everything you predict... Makes me wonder why the current one man hasn't been able to accomplish anything meaningful in the last 3 years.
Cataranza wants to be president because his career as a cop is over, his ridiculous disciplinary history and his history of screwing over other cops has insured that. To the younger officers, don't be fooled by his social media nonsense, it's all a show. Think hard about what a guy like this will do to you. You can scream and make demands all you want, but making everyone your enemy isn't going bring about any change. Cataranza will only make the officers who make up cpd look like a bunch of immature clowns who just voted in the biggest clown of all. We need a professional, a diplomat who actually understands how to negotiate. Please ask cataranza how exactly he plans on getting residency lifted.
Ya Graham is so polished and impressive
Brothers and sisters first let me thanks for over 30 years on the job. My time has ended and the career path changed. I am honored to have served on the board for FOP7 and and will continue to support the Lodge and all of CPD. It is time for the new the and the young to hopefully follow a safe and honest journey through their careers. Stay safe and God bless
G
Anonymous said...
"Graham didn’t give in and sell us out like Dean Angelo did when Angelo negotiated a contract instead of going to arbitration...."
I didn't vote on any contract Angelo negotiated; and neither did you. All of our last 4 contracts went to arbitration. wtf are you talking about?
3/06/2020 11:37:00 PM
You’re not a police officer or just a really dumb uninvolved one. Last contract under Angelo did not go to arbitration. The members voted on it and it was approved. Wake up!
Graham is a fuckin city pawn. You guys are blind if you can't see that. He's paid by the city to purposely do nothing. He needs to be gone. We already have most of the 20/20 vision team voted in. In addition to being useless, Graham would clash with the new regime. Vote Catanzara and complete the transition.
How much worse of an image can the CPD be in? It really does not matter who the FOP president is, the mayor will still hate us, the same hood rats will still hate us, the same liberal news media will still hateus
What's the worst thing that can happen if you vote for jcat? He gets fired and Mettee gets the top spot? Sounds like a win win to me!!
I crack up watching 70 year old retiree worry about a union election that can barely walk.
3/06/2020 08:11:00 PM
I want to laugh, too. Where can I see a union election that can barely walk?
Doesn't matter who is in there. If you don't give the City what they want they just pick the arbitrator and fuck us that way!!
We'll be wearing cameras and be disciplined for not using them properly.
They will take away our protection rights so they can fire us easier.
We'll end up with a shitty raise and pay more for our medical now and when we retire.
But, most of the P.O's will forget once they get their retro.
It's the same old song!!
I say it's time to play the game the same way the City plays it!!
My Beverly upbringing and 12 merit promotions to the ultimate rank of Commodore made me ineligible to vote in this election.
That being said if you think voting for Officer Callback is a good idea I suggest you think way back to former FOP President Mikey Shields--loud and stupid isn't necessarily a great way to go thru life.
But go ahead and vote for the idiot who seems to want to be on a reality tv show............
It’s a shame Bob Bartlett is out. He did great things for us.
Could someone explain why we need 3 Sgt of Arms?
3/07/2020 05:56:00 AM
The retirees fight over the pizza. You'd know that if you bothered to attend general meetings sometime, kid. My generation built this union from nothing and turned it into a country club for D2As, and I'll be damned if some kid is going to question how our circle jerk is run.
Your all so, screwed up that you can't even het 50% of the members to care enough to vote. Suggest to all the non voters you stop paying your dues. Let the FOP go under and form a real union.
So why not hire an ex cop turned lawyer to be your president and spokesman. Have a board of directors that he answers to but get a professional mouth piece that understands what you do and how to make the law work for you. What your doing just continues to fail. The only way to negotiate if from strength and right now you have none. Hell you can't even get half your members to vote.
LOL, your worried about our image. Give me a break. Any change in our current image would be an improvement. Whale shit is about where our image is so anything better than that would be a win.
Your next union leader better be good at herding cats is all I can say.
What I find absolutely hilarious is that Catanzara tried to change our bylaws to cut out some of the dead wood and then partners with Bella, Brown, Duckhorn and Shogren. These four haven’t done anything for FOP members in years. If you do the math, they haven’t been on the street for over a century.
There are about 8000 retirees. It’s a miracle that Graham didn’t get 8000 votes in the election.
There is no way there are 8000 retirees paying their FOP dues. If you don’t pay, you don’t get a ballot so I’m not believing 8000 retirees voted. and if there were 8000 that means 100% voted.
Are Prieb and Murray the guys from Practical Jokers? I love that show.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Diplomatic Graham means ball locker Graham. I’m voting for Catanzara we have nothing to lose. Maybe crazy is what we need because I know Gorman and Mette will keep him on the reservation. MAGA
We have nothing to lose!?!?!? Are you out of your mind? In this day and age we have EVERYTHING to lose! What world are you currently living in if you think that just throwing some wild card up there is perfectly fine because we have nothing to lose. We still have GREAT protections that are getting attacked by every side. The attacks will only get ten times worse as this consent decree and civilian oversite begins to ramp up even more. We have everything to lose and the city and mayor are frothing at the mouth for JCAT to get in because they know he is loud but highly incompetent. Anyone, including myself who have had to work with him in 008 prior to his stripping know that he can’t even spell or talk to someone without embarrassing himself. Nobody will take him seriously and our “union” will be all bark and no teeth because our union won’t have the competency how to use those teeth. This is a ploy to buy himself time to get his pension and keep insurance incase he gets fired. He’s gotten many complaints on fellow police officers, some here in 008 who were good people. He wants to play the lawsuit game that if he gets enough beefs on people they will eventually “retaliate” and he can sue for harassment and hostile work environment.. he never thought it would backfire as bad as it did and it would get him stripped with a rule 14. He knows he’s in a bad spot because the city has a slam dunk case against him and his back is against the wall. Every vote he just got is a pawn in his self centered little game with the city and these young idiots on this job and those who don’t know him are falling for it hook, line and sinker..
Marcovich?? My goodness. What have we become. This guy should have been fired/indicted years ago. The moron can’t even write a report and did TERRIBLE and sloppy police work hence almost being fired and arrested. Look at the trend. Nenads and JCAT, two brainless fools who should be fired will lead us to the promised land. Wtf is happening with this department. Just get rid of the fop and join the teamsters like we were going to do in the 80s. It was between the teamsters and the FOP.. we went with the FOP. I said it was a mistake then and now I’m seeing with the way our bargaining unit is devolving it’s true.
We need fighters, not writers. GO CAT GO !!!
*Right 46 Complaints against this officer
Absence without Permission, Verbal, Domestic Abuse, insubordination Failure to arrest Beefs
Sure you count 46. like one from propublica writer for face book post from out of state, Or taking his own vehicle back from an angry ex girlfriend. John has done more for the police without any credit on his own dime and time. He is selfless not selfish. You either bash him about rumors and factually deficient allegations PUD
If anyone thinks that the Mayor is going to be intimidated, feel threatened, be put on the defensive by a loud mouth cop- you’re as soft as puppy shit and stupid!
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