Election Results Thursday
- The cold war between Mayor Lori Lightfoot and the Fraternal Order of Police is in danger of turning into a deep freeze.
John Cantanzara, one of the CPD’s most frequently disciplined officers, and Martin Preib, who has crusaded against the “wrongful convictions movement,” are expected to be the top two finishers in an election for union president when results are announced Thursday.
Incumbent FOP President Kevin Graham is a long-shot to make the run-off. The question appears to be whether Cantanzara or Preib will claim more than 50% of the votes or whether the two strongest challengers will be forced into a run-off.
The office of President is the only one that needs the "fifty-percent-plus-one" vote. Failing to get to that mark, a runoff will be hoed, usually within a few weeks. Everyone else is a simple majority of the ballots cast.
It certainly promises to be an interesting three years.
It certainly promises to be an interesting three years.
Labels: FOP
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
150 Comments:
Graham was ok but seemed spineless
Prieb was ok but no backing from current administration
JCat- Discipline issues but not a sellout and most potential
F my life
I don't see John or Marty winning this one.
Retro residency and retirement
Don't count Graham out you have Julie Joyce on that ticket she will bring in a lot of votes.
Interesting 3 years... I just want to get paid.
This is a job, NOT entertainment.
GREAT SSC Decides the election
What The Fuk
If you get a real representative for your concerns then you all won. These socialists dont like pushback. It exposes their nasty ass.
i dont really care who does what. but how bout a fucking contract?
B aware, the Credit Union ATM on Harlem was breached, several victims yesterday, check your
accounts, I know at least 3 of them, myself included.
GREAT SSC Decides the election
What The Fuk
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By linking to a Sun Times article (available to the entire world via the internet) that mentions each of the top three candidates in the opening paragraphs?
How exactly do we decide the election in this manner? What manner of stupid is this?
Asshat.
These are my final three years, I can hold out a little longer. Make my final retro a good one.
B aware, the Credit Union ATM on Harlem was breached, several victims yesterday, check your
accounts, I know at least 3 of them, myself included.
Which is why I took my money out and put it back into a real bank years ago. Too many breaches at the credit union, the people who work there aren’t family members remember that.
SCC blog is available globally too.
Zero contract, zero activity. PERIOD. The bosses can suck an egg.
By linking to a Sun Times article (available to the entire world via the internet) that mentions each of the top three candidates in the opening paragraphs?
How exactly do we decide the election in this manner? What manner of stupid is this?
Asshat.
3/03/2020 05:04:00 AM
Every time someone starts their post by addressing you as "SSC," I just assume they're going to post something stupid. I haven't been wrong yet. If they can't figure out the SCC part, there's probably not much they can figure out.
anyone who does not have the ball to spell the word "fuck" correctly is....well, an "asshat"
What has FOP done in the last 3-4 years ????
Can it be any worse than what is been going on anyway? The mayors doing nothing with the current fraternal order of police administration, we have no spokes person who speaks out for us anyway they got rid of Pat Camden or at least look good in front of the media. Mayor does not like the police obviously just like the rest of the elected Democrats people that are against lawful people and the taxpayers don’t like it when people do follow the laws. God bless the police!
You need huevos for that job. Huevos I tell you.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Enjoy your Retro
John Cantanzara Is a goof. He isn’t getting more then 5% of the vote.
Slow down google police. You will never know what police work was.
Kevin has a shot and got zero accomplished. Time fir teamsters people
GREAT SSC Decides the election
What The Fuk
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By linking to a Sun Times article (available to the entire world via the internet) that mentions each of the top three candidates in the opening paragraphs?
How exactly do we decide the election in this manner? What manner of stupid is this?
Asshat.
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Lol shots fired at the police by the police
I liked Kevin Graham, especially since he went to meet President Trump but my vote went to John Cantanzara
The choice seems easy, but we all need to wake up. It isn’t about raises, retro, or residency. It’s about discipline and protecting the rights we have. It’s about protecting your job so that you can someday retire. Raises, retro, and residency don’t mean a damn thing if you are terminated.
Take a good hard look at each of their histories.
Catanzara just doesn’t know when to sit back and listen. He will likely fight with everyone and accomplish nothing.
Graham only sits back and listens and then does nothing. He will continue to fight with nobody and again accomplish nothing.
Preib has been intelligently advocating for our guys for years. He will likely continue to pick his battles and accomplish something.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
i dont really care who does what. but how bout a fucking contract?
3/03/2020 03:42:00 AM
So you care about the contract, but not the guys who are going to make and fight for it?
Future merit pick right here.
Catanzara? It’ll be another 3 years for a contract...
Unrelated, have you seen the Sun Times article about CPD holding suspects past the 48 hour limit with "Secret Hearings"? What a misrepresentation of the truth! There is NO law that states there are only 48 hours. The City years ago changed from 72 hours to 48 hours. Then the City again changed it to having a charged suspect appear before a magistrate within 48 hours. This of course created issues because of off hours (ie late at night/early in morning), so judges will meet you at court houses, police stations, and sometimes at their residences. Transporting prisoners there is a No Go for obvious reasons. There are numerous Chicagoland suburbs in Cook County that still have 72 hours to charge a suspect. The Supreme Court has ruled "a Reasonable Amount of Time". Chicago took it to the extreme like they do in all matters. This Sun Times article is making it appear that we are holding suspects beyond 48 hours (without charging). Suspects are held beyond 48 hours when the timing doesn't allow them to make it to bond court in time. But they have been charged and a judge approved PC. Andy Grimm and Tim Novak must be getting treats from Groot for this bullshit article!
I’m glad that our contract is heading towards arbitration, but if a new regime was ejected that wanted to go back to the bargaining table, would the union be able to reverse course? I’m not interested in this getting dragged out a couple more years. My out of control property taxes could use a raise.
Why would you want a guy with major discipline issues? Being a pain in the ass doesn't make you a viable candidate for president. This city does everything backwards.
Been FOP for more than 25 years. Ive always said don't elect the nice guys to reps or above cause they will NOT rock the boat they will always ook out for themselves. Look how silent FOP has been on most EVERYTHING that rank and file looked for support. FOP sucks but maybe just maybe new leadership can turn that around.
Graham’s letter said he has not filed for arbitration yet because he is getting along with the mayor. 32- months. No arbitration? Seriously? We now need a loud mouthpiece. Aggravation is all we have left as a voice. Only the problem child has the balls to do that.
I early voted in Clearing. No ID of any sort required. Is that normal for primary?
WTF, Preib or Cantazara, pleeze tell me that these are the only 2 viable candidates. Young coppers must be idiots when the vote, if they vote at all
Did Fran Spielman do some sort of exit polling? We have no idea who will win in a 5 man race with 30 % ballot return.
Anonymous said...
B aware, the Credit Union ATM on Harlem was breached, several victims yesterday, check your
accounts, I know at least 3 of them, myself included.
3/03/2020 04:43:00 AM
I stopped banking with the credit union years ago. There's nothing convenient about baking with the credit union other than having an atm at the district.
I don't have anything against Prieb, but I don't think he is driven enough or focuses on the issues that the current rank & file are dealing with. He's a great writer but everytime I ever got an email from him it was a lengthy write-up against the Northwestern exoneration program. That's great, keep fighting those liberals, but honestly, overturning "wrongful convictions" from decades ago doesn't matter to me. What about our contract? What about our benefits? What things are you fighting for us to get & keep?? To me, Prieb = Written articles against the wrongful conviction movement.
Now Catanzara... Met him at one of our roll calls. Heard what he had to say and I'll say, HE is the type we need when dealing with the city. They won't be able to ignore him or make him shut up and go away. To those of you who think he's too confrontational and won't accomplish anything? Well Trump haters have been saying the same thing every step of the way. 1. He's going to get us in WW3 with N. Korea... They backed down. 2. He's going to get us in WW3 with Iran...well they backed down too. Everytime Trump stands up to a potential threat, they back down and we win. I think Catanzara will be the same way. Since they can't ignore him and he will be a pain in their ass by exposing the city's lies, I think they'll be forced to bargain if for any reason just so he doesn't keep holding press conferences giving the public OUR side of the story. Search and watch the YouTube videos of him dealing with the mayor and city council. Tell me that's not the type of president we need. He won't take their bullshit. He's not crazy, he's respectful and professional. I really don't care about the negatives people keep saying about him. Don't care about any administrative bricks on him. It actually shows me he's a valid threat if they're trying So hard to silence him. The department heads (Appointed by the Supt. Who is Appointed by the Mayor) might be worried.
Like I said, met the man once. I'm not on his ticket and don't know him personally but he has my vote.
Rumors are flying that J cat is heading for 30 pending......so good luck to his “potential”. On top of that maybe ask J Cat for some advice when it comes to using the medical more than the average cop. J Cat = scammer.
B aware, the Credit Union ATM on Harlem was breached, several victims yesterday, check your
accounts, I know at least 3 of them, myself included.
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Skimming device installed on it ?
Do you think it will make a difference which clown is running the FOP? No way no how, too many years of going along to get along. Crickets is the name of the FOP game and they play it so well.
SlumTimes making predictions?
What do they know about FOP candidates and why are they interested?
Stirring the pot might have something to do with Graham Crackers greeting Donald J Trump @ O’Hare.
Democrats are counting on low interest and low FOP turnout.
FOP ballots must be received/postmarked/processed at the post office by Mar 4 at the end of the business day.
FOOP will pickup the ballots on March 5th.
Get your Ballot to the Post Office Today - the last mailbox pickups for hub processing are around 1700hrs, today.
In Person voting can be done only on March 5th from 0900-1200. (No word on refreshments and parking.)
Don’t forget -
EARLY Primary Voting starts today.
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Vote Democrat against every Democrat incumbent including judges.
Vote Republican in November of course.
“Anonymous said...
Don't count Graham out you have Julie Joyce on that ticket she will bring in a lot of votes.”
Huh?
Julie Joyce? That's like having Elizabeth Warren on your ticket. Useless and lies. A police Fauxahontas. She's done nothing. A Collins slug from 018.
Grahams done a great job He took the heat and righted the ship after Insanity
He gets my vote every time
Retro residency and retirement
Residency Zero Chance and where you going to go out of Illinois???
But I guess you can just eat your house or Condo
OT looks like 012 3rd watch sgts are back to their old tricks with overtime. Whenever sgt v does the overtime he takes care of his favs and does not go by seniority that yall been preaching. He thinks he is slick. He is probably one of the worst sgts on 3rd.
Ralph Papa Thorson Says:
This could be the summer that the city goes fully out of whack, and goes up in flames. Blu-Flu rumors and ZERO Morale. Things are adding up. Be Highly careful out there people. Going home safe to family and friends, and surviving to collect your pension is what it's all about. Don't be a Soccer Ball for the City's Communist, Cop-Hating Politicians, who throw on the charm when they need you when all hell is breaking loose in the summer months, then treat you like a dog turd the rest of the time. Stay Safe, Stay Fetal. You know who to come to the aid of and who to be in no hurry to get yourselves killed over. God Bless, watch over, and keep safe, the Officers of the CPD, both Active and Retired.
What is the actual plan for residency? Have your candidates stated any ideas or are they just using it as a burn card? I’m on the fire side and a few guys have campaigned that they will put residency on the table but they think the city won’t go for it so they don’t have an actual plan if the city says “ok what do you propose?”. Not sure if you guys on CPD have a better understanding of this.
If you didnt vote dont blame anyone else your part of the problem.you still can go vote in person March 5th 9am to Noon.
Not only the Sun Times. When I opened Google highlights it appeared. It’s all over the internet
Health Care after maxing out whether it's free or a percentage of your pay. A bunch of us under 55 want to go but cant because of out of pocket ridiculous health care costs and their is a bunch lining up behind us that will be in the same boat soon enough.
What we should be hoping for is someone who will work for us the members and not some loud mouth who wants to prove a point at the expense of our negotiations going to shit!
Does it ever really matter.
It always remains the same....
Here's what I don't get...I have talked with a lot of P.O.'s and MANY HAVE NOT ever received a ballot...when they call the FOP all you get is come down and vote. Sounds to me like some bullshit going on to fix the election. WE ARE THE PAYING MEMBERS, the least you lazy ass fuckers at the FOP can do is send everyone a ballot...dumbasses. This election sounds like a typical Demorat election = STUPIDITY
Voted for Graham Wish him the best
i dont really care who does what. but how bout a fucking contract
Keep Voting Demorat like Biden
People this aint entertainment is right. I dont want a shit show with John. He beefs on other coppers for God Sakes! What the hell does that
tell you? John cares about John. We already got a pres like that. Kevin does not care about coppers. At all. Marty is the only viable
choice. Ray is nice but hes a rockhead!!!
Kevin Was a good FOP President had the Cops back
Hope he wins If not FOP will be in utter turmoil
Voted Bernie for President Power to the People & Let the Nation Suffer like ChIraq
Remember. Early Voting is On for Illinois.
Pull a Dem Ticket. Republican Ticket this month hands SAO to Kim on a platter.
Conway. No one else.
And all you coppers in 45. Garrido is on the Dem Ticket. You have to Pull Democrat if you want to vote for him.
Feel free to fuck with cook county and Write me in for the Write in Judge Spots.
I hear Bernie Sanders is leading in the Polls...Creepy Uncle Joe Biden a close second.
Breaking:
The Australian Associated Press, the country's main wire
service, is going out of business
Final day will be June 26, 2020
(News business is getting tough all over)
Thankfully we still have SCC
Our Union is our business, no one else's. Stay in your lane liberals
No matter who wins the election, Seiser still runs it.
Graham was ok but seemed spineless
Prieb was ok but no backing from current administration
JCat- Discipline issues but not a sellout and most potential
F my life
My problem with this Catanzara is when things dont go his way he gets CR numbers on other coppers. Thats a no no in my book
Just sayin
Hmmmm...
The reeking and leaking anal-whore media minions at the
scum-times (and other outlets feigning disinterest in whom
"Those RACIST Mt. Greenwood/Edison Park conservative echo
chamber dwelling Cops who rebelliously fight against being
'reformed' and finally being held 'accountable' (and liable)
for what happened in the past," elect to head FOP) are perhaps
quite concerned about the possibility of Policemen aligning
behind someone "controversial, wild and uncontrollable."
Someone who gives nary a fuck about the liberal democrat
progressive political correctness and finally hitting back
and landing good and hard punches through the front teeth of
the media and political class' prevailing false, jumped-up
and nonsensical narrative of Chicago Policemen being at fault
(and liable) for all that ails this city in regard to
Public Order, Public Peace, Public Safety and the perceived
(and actual) outrageous lack thereof.
"Cold War?"
No... Not even...
They're afraid.
VERY afraid.
next contract , get it in writing
no more Merit Promotions to Sergeant , ET ,Detective .
Let's gET QUALIFIED PEOPLE IN SUPERVISORY POSITIONS
speaking of credit union on harlem , 2 weeks ago some idiot boss was in a full size unmarked gray expedition and as we were pulling in off of harlem ave. he was going in reverse at a fast speed and smashed into a parked car on the west end of the parking lot. this idiot hit it so hard he pushed that car into another parked car. i would love to see the paper on that one. and the expedition itself had a ton of damage. the best part was the credit union was closed for presidents day weekend
John Cantanzara Is a goof. He isn’t getting more then 5% of the vote.
3/03/2020 06:13:00 AM
Lol I bet you said the same thing about trump when he got elected
Anonymous said...
SCC blog is available globally too.
3/03/2020 05:26:00 AM
Hence WORLD wide web. www.
RE: Anonymous Anonymous said...
GREAT SSC Decides the election
What The Fuk
3/03/2020 01:17:00 AM
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Sounds like one of the candidates is pissed he or she wasn't given honorable mention.
How come my J Cat comment got blocked! VOTE J CAT if you want real change.
May John Catanzara win!
Can't wait to retire from this shit!
Thanks for your comments Kevin about how good you have been. But what makes you think the FOP IS NOT in turmoil RIGHT NOW? Not contract for three years. The only reason for the FOP is to insure fair contracts. Period end of story, on that one and only important issue you have failed miserably. The pizza parties and golf tournament are ego tips and your silence on all the issues facing the street cops has been deafening. So maybe you crawl back under that rock you have been hiding under and spent your teaming time in office in your favorite Fetal position.
SCC, yes it was a skimming device at Credit Union on Harlem , baware and check your account.
You all keep harping on residency, be careful what you wish for. If any of you were really serious about it there would have been a law suit filed years ago. If city lost and they would, property values would plummet. Those few food remaining neighborhoods would cease to exist. It would increase the likelihood that city files bankruptcy and your pensions disappear. Think twice before you demand city lift residency for you and all city employees. You might not be able to afford housing in areas with reasonable commute times because those will fill fastest with city employees fleeing and cause property values in those areas to soar. New burdens on suburban schools will require additional taxes to build new schools. So again be careful what you wish for that greener grass could turn brown very fast.
Get rid of the O’Hare front office desk dollies they are a disgrace
Looks like Goofioretti and more are going to split the vote enough to let Foxx get in again. I hope all you Goofioretti lovers understand the damage he does for his own insignificant ego and his asshole kissing of Jesse Jackson. He’s an arrogant egomaniac who raises money to live off of and doesnt pay his campaign workers. ARDC is going to hear about this time.
Same circus different clowns. This fucking career field is dead.
Your negation have gone to shot BECAUSE YOU DD NOT HAVE A LOUDMOUTH speaking for you dummy. They saw weakness and capitalized on it. Classic strategy from The Art Of War.
Preib has been intelligently advocating for our guys for years. He will likely continue to pick his battles and accomplish something.
I TOTALLY AGREE
Could SCC publish the names of the endorsed Democratic judges so I know whom not to vote for.
"Gets CR's against coppers" Has anyone found out what this was about?? No. How about he got CR'S against the boss(s) who REFUSED to approve the report he wrote listing EJ and Phlegar as offenders when they shut down the expressway. He had to make it official in order to cover his ass from the inevitable retaliation. Remember them telling us "A CR doesn't establish guilt or innocence, it just opens an official investigation". I don't know about you, but I've seen good cops get CRs on other cops over the years, many times simply to "cover their ass" by making the situation official. So getting a cr on another copper without hearing the whole story doesn't mean shit.
Retired member and I did not get a ballot
Health care is the biggest issue, The on the job cost and cost upon retirement have to be kept affordable. It impacts us all, young and old. Retro will be there, Sgts, just got theirs. Forget about residency, will not happen.
next contract , get it in writing
no more Merit Promotions to Sergeant , ET ,Detective .
Let's gET QUALIFIED PEOPLE IN SUPERVISORY POSITIONS
All they would do is lower the passing score
Just like they did with the 1st part of the sergeants test
My vote was for John until he backed O’toole. That decision alone means he didn’t do his due diligence endorsing him or even worse he’s friends with that creature.
Just where would those More Qualified Supervisors come from. The next level of merit ranks or pull them out of Academy? If you eliminate the merited and flouted all you have left is the wanna bees. Not such a pretty picture but it is what needs to be done. Will take a generation to make that drastic of change unless you hire from outside. Then it could be done in two years.
OT looks like 012 3rd watch sgts are back to their old tricks with overtime. Whenever sgt v does the overtime he takes care of his favs and does not go by seniority that yall been preaching. He thinks he is slick. He is probably one of the worst sgts on 3rd.
3/03/2020 11:21:00 AM
Would you file a fucking grievance already. Extension of tour isn't required to be done by seniority, but you don't believe so do something!!! Nobody gives a flying fuck about the 3rd watch OT in 012.
The politicians judge our union strength by our participation. If everyone votes in the union election then the city leaders know that the police could just as easily votes them out when they stand for election. When your to lazy to even vote the the city leaders don’t have to fear you
Just saying Seiser's platform page of ideas help all members both retired and active. I'm voting for him.
To the guy calling OToole a creature, he can kiss my ass. Otoole is a real copper as opposed to the other Police impersonators running in other races. The current fop crew, Donahue and company went with Arena pal Martwick, who is a police hater, socialist. Danny has my vote all the way and Garrido.
Gets CR's against coppers" Has anyone found out what this was about?? No. How about he got CR'S against the boss(s) who REFUSED to approve the report he wrote listing EJ and Phlegar as offenders when they shut down the expressway. He had to make it official in order to cover his ass from the inevitable retaliation. Remember them telling us "A CR doesn't establish guilt or innocence, it just opens an official investigation". I don't know about you, but I've seen good cops get CRs on other cops over the years, many times simply to "cover their ass" by making the situation official. So getting a cr on another copper without hearing the whole story doesn't mean shit.
3/03/2020 07:32:00 PM
Completely agree! I walked into a station with a minor family member pink face with a split, fat lip from being beaten by her mother and after notifying my cpt. First thing desk officer and desk sgt is "do you want to get a CR against her? You can get her fired" I was immediately like WTF thank God my family member wasn't an ass but by God I immediately put a CR against both the officer and Sgt with my family member as witness.
So name the idiot boss. Guess he thought he was in a CPD crash mobile. Was he a merit promotee?
What about O'toole? Why are you against him? See his signs all over my area, figuring since he's the police, should be good. If you have counter information please share. Might make a difference. I'd still give John the vote, He's probably supporting O'toole BECAUSE he's police, why many others are supporting him.
Anonymous said...
John Cantanzara Is a goof. He isn’t getting more then 5% of the vote.
3/03/2020 06:13:00 AM
Lol I bet you said the same thing about trump when he got elected
3/03/2020 04:33:00 PM
catanzara is NOT Trump. TRUMP showed up to work everyday.
Thats right, get it in writing about no more merit.
Im voting for Bernie because he promises everyone free things.
Jk
Whos j cat?
Anonymous said...
You all keep harping on residency, be careful what you wish for. If any of you were really serious about it there would have been a law suit filed years ago. If city lost and they would, property values would plummet. Those few food remaining neighborhoods would cease to exist. It would increase the likelihood that city files bankruptcy and your pensions disappear. Think twice before you demand city lift residency for you and all city employees. You might not be able to afford housing in areas with reasonable commute times because those will fill fastest with city employees fleeing and cause property values in those areas to soar. New burdens on suburban schools will require additional taxes to build new schools. So again be careful what you wish for that greener grass could turn brown very fast.
3/03/2020 06:24:00 PM
Go fuck yourself and your new overpriced open-concept addition!
I am the anti-vote I voted for anyone that didn't hold a spot i the FOP except for Pat Murray.
Kevin isn't a bad guy. The creepy uncle mustache worries me, but in general he's a good guy.
I voted for John Cat. Preib and Graham are mush mouth self serving sellouts. Please don’t let either one of the dummies get on National television to represent us. Both Graham and Preib were unprepared tongue tied asses.
Anonymous said...
speaking of credit union on harlem , 2 weeks ago some idiot boss was in a full size unmarked gray expedition and as we were pulling in off of harlem ave. he was going in reverse at a fast speed and smashed into a parked car on the west end of the parking lot. this idiot hit it so hard he pushed that car into another parked car. i would love to see the paper on that one. and the expedition itself had a ton of damage. the best part was the credit union was closed for presidents day weekend
3/03/2020 04:24:00 PM
Bosses in their take home waste of money cars. What a dope. I’m sure the city will give him a nice new car.
"Search and watch the YouTube videos of him dealing with the mayor and city council. Tell me that's not the type of president we need. He won't take their bullshit. He's not crazy, he's respectful and professional".
You're right. They sure didn't want him speaking. The mayor just stopped listening and he called her on it. Then later they wouldn't let him speak at the podium again. He protested in front of her house after her comments about the FOP. He isn't afraid to tell it like it is. They don't like that at all. He's smart and deals in facts not liberal emotions. As far as the medical, if he uses the system to his advantage, why not. The clouted do it everyday. In fact many here talk of how people should take medical if they can do it.
But really if you weren't satisfied before, why vote for anyone in office now? Just more of the same is all you can expect. They had their chance, what have they really accomplished? Seems the same problems remain and continue to be talked about here by frustrated coppers on the job now and those retired. He has a different style than anyone else. I do believe they would hate it if he won, that alone is almost enough reason to vote for him. LOL
nonymous said...
How come my J Cat comment got blocked! VOTE J CAT if you want real change.
3/03/2020 05:19:00 PM
***yea, change for the worse!! Fuck that POS!
Anonymous said...
May John Catanzara win!
3/03/2020 05:44:00 PM
**I wouldn't votes for this POS if he was running for Janitor!!
Bob Fioretti doesn't have a base. He talks about his Polish (via mom) and Italian heritages often, but how many people of those etnicities are flocking to him? Not many.
On another note, his old 2nd Ward "base" wasn't enough to overcome State Senator Patricia Van Pelt's victory, in the overlapping 5th District.
O'Toole is better than Martwick.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
John Cantanzara Is a goof. He isn’t getting more then 5% of the vote.
3/03/2020 06:13:00 AM
Lol I bet you said the same thing about trump when he got elected
3/03/2020 04:33:00 PM
Nope. I Proudly voted for Donald J Trump and will again. I also proudly have a Trump 2020 flag in the front of my house.
What about O'toole? Why are you against him? See his signs all over my area, figuring since he's the police, should be good. If you have counter information please share. Might make a difference. I'd still give John the vote, He's probably supporting O'toole BECAUSE he's police, why many others are supporting him.
#%$#%$#
You realize this is the FOP election thread, not the primary election, or are you just dumb?
It matters that you VOTE just as much as it matters who you vote for. 10000 ish votes decided the mayoral election. That’s all of us together, give it take a few. If you show city hall you vote in a block.....they might start listening up when any union rep is in front of them instead of calling them clowns. If there is one thing that our morally ethically and criminally challenged neighborhoods do, it’s vote and vote often. That’s why they are catered to by the scum politicians, because they vote in a block.
Anonymous said...
You all keep harping on residency, be careful what you wish for. If any of you were really serious about it there would have been a law suit filed years ago. If city lost and they would, property values would plummet. Those few food remaining neighborhoods would cease to exist. It would increase the likelihood that city files bankruptcy and your pensions disappear. Think twice before you demand city lift residency for you and all city employees. You might not be able to afford housing in areas with reasonable commute times because those will fill fastest with city employees fleeing and cause property values in those areas to soar. New burdens on suburban schools will require additional taxes to build new schools. So again be careful what you wish for that greener grass could turn brown very fast.
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Why would cops move out if those neighborhoods are so good? Must mean other areas are better huh? Cops are .4% of Chicago's population. Get over yourself.
Someone above in a comment said he wouldn't vote for Catanzara because Catanzara supports O'toole. I posted inquiring about why this guy thinks O'toole is a bad choice FOR SENATOR!. I see his signs all over and am wondering if there's something I didn't know about him and why I should or should not vote for him. Reading...it's a skill. Some of us actually scroll and read all the comments, formulating questions and answers to other questions. All scc posts are a mix of topics within the comments, if it's really "Off topic" then someone starts with OT. My post was a question regarding another's comment about the FOP ELECTION, it wasn't off topic, BUT... YOU didn't REALIZE that since you obviously don't read more than a few last posts (Words are hard, right??) It appears that YOU ARE THAT DUMB.
How can we be ok with electing someone who is assigned to Call Back and possibly facing 30 pending? Let’s say this goof does win then gets fired. What next? Another election?
Im retired and I did not receive a ballot.
Pulled all my money out of Credit Union. Not what it used to be they let the CTA become members. CTA had their own credit union what happened to it. ♠️
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kevin isn't a bad guy. The creepy uncle mustache worries me, but in general he's a good guy.
Kevin is not a fighter. He's out for Kevin. With everyone dumping on CPD the way they have we need a FOP president that will get out in front of the public and fight for the police and we do. Take a look at NYPD. That's the model we need here. Kevin doesn't have the stones to be like that.
You all keep harping on residency, be careful what you wish for. If any of you were really serious about it there would have been a law suit filed years ago. If city lost and they would, property values would plummet. Those few food remaining neighborhoods would cease to exist. It would increase the likelihood that city files bankruptcy and your pensions disappear. Think twice before you demand city lift residency for you and all city employees. You might not be able to afford housing in areas with reasonable commute times because those will fill fastest with city employees fleeing and cause property values in those areas to soar. New burdens on suburban schools will require additional taxes to build new schools. So again be careful what you wish for that greener grass could turn brown very fast.
Seriously one of the dumbest posts I have seen in a long time. You think that everybody is just going to abandon their houses and run out of here?! The new guys would be crazy not to leave but guys with 10 years plus are established in these neighborhoods with kids in schools, friends down the block, family around the corner. Not to mention that a lot of coppers grew up in the city and no matter how shitty it is, this is home. A change in residency does not mean that everybody is going to leave and anyone who thinks that doesnt see the big picture. It gives people a choice And also helps open the door to get some qualified candidates to take this job.
Retired and Never got a ballot but did get my fop book Hmmmm?????
Gets CR's against coppers" Has anyone found out what this was about?? No. How about he got CR'S against the boss(s) who REFUSED to approve the report he wrote listing EJ and Phlegar as offenders when they shut down the expressway. He had to make it official in order to cover his ass from the inevitable retaliation. Remember them telling us "A CR doesn't establish guilt or innocence, it just opens an official investigation". I don't know about you, but I've seen good cops get CRs on other cops over the years, many times simply to "cover their ass" by making the situation official. So getting a cr on another copper without hearing the whole story doesn't mean shit.
3/03/2020 07:32:00 PM
Completely agree! I walked into a station with a minor family member pink face with a split, fat lip from being beaten by her mother and after notifying my cpt. First thing desk officer and desk sgt is "do you want to get a CR against her? You can get her fired" I was immediately like WTF thank God my family member wasn't an ass but by God I immediately put a CR against both the officer and Sgt with my family member as witness.
3/03/2020 10:36:00 PM
Maybe introduce yourself next time, like a human. You would have avoided the confusion when she told them that my mom beat me. It would be the natural inference. They thought you beat your kid, that is why they asked. You put a CR number on somebody for doing their job and asking a question. You are a complete mule.
Catanzara suing for residency was enough for me to secure my vote. The faster I can get out the better. I could careless
about coppers buying 500k houses and panicking when FOP wins and property values drop.
Forget residency, it is a loser. Concentrate on issues you can make gains on. Residency is out there in the hope that an election can be stolen.
3/03/2020 04:24:00 PM You must not have anything better to do at 04:24 in the morning in mommy's basement spewing rumors. It was a retired boss in his own car. A very good boss I might add. His gas pedal stuck and he reversed into a parked car. He made a report and notified the other parties involved. So what if the bank was closed; the ATM was open. There are plenty of asshole bosses to take digs at, but not this one. Go back to mommy in your footsies pajamas.
Prieb is part of the machine. The fop is in bed with the city, what have they done the last 3 years? Nooooothingggg.
Why would cops move out if those neighborhoods are so good? Must mean other areas are better huh? Cops are .4% of Chicago's population. Get over yourself.
3/04/2020 06:31:00 AM
Yes. Other areas OUTSIDE THE CITY. That's the whole point, genius. Police don't want to be forced to live in the city. Cheaper houses, better schools, lower taxes, better neighborhoods, etc. It has nothing to do with what percentage of the population the police are. It has to do with the fact that certain neighborhoods in Chicago are saturated with CPD, CFD, and other city workers. Those neighborhoods are generally the safest, lowest crime, cleanest, and best places within the city to raise a family. If residency is lifted, those city workers would disappear from those neighborhoods, property values would decrease, and those neighborhoods would eventually turn to shit just like most other areas of the city. The only one who needs to get over themselves is you. You don't matter.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Pulled all my money out of Credit Union. Not what it used to be they let the CTA become members. CTA had their own credit union what happened to it. ♠️
If true why would we let them in our credit union. Makes no sense
Why do you think resonates so well in the CPD. It will be the same for all city workers as well. They want out and the quicker the better. Many would be able to put their kids in good public school systems saving a lot of ton of money each year. A lot of the Catholic schools would be force to close or consolidate if they lost the city workers kids. tThose so called cop and City worker neighborhoods would be very quickly affected. For a the sake of argument there are roughly 30,000 city workers. If only 10% decided to leave with no residency requirements that would be 3,000 plus families leaving. Very large percentage live in about Four distinct city worker neighborhoods. 500-600 homes for sale in any one of those neighborhoods would choke the market causing a downturn in all home values. That would mean lower income individuals would now ne able to move in as an owner or renter. The decline begins. That 10% number just might be low. so again be careful what you wish and sue for.
Hey dumbass, it was 424pm moron
It was a retired boss in his personal car. Gas pedal got stuck. Admitted it was his fault and contacted other parties involved so shut the f up
Seriously one of the dumbest posts I have seen in a long time. You think that everybody is just going to abandon their houses and run out of here?! The new guys would be crazy not to leave but guys with 10 years plus are established in these neighborhoods with kids in schools, friends down the block, family around the corner. Not to mention that a lot of coppers grew up in the city and no matter how shitty it is, this is home. A change in residency does not mean that everybody is going to leave and anyone who thinks that doesnt see the big picture. It gives people a choice And also helps open the door to get some qualified candidates to take this job.
3/04/2020 09:22:00 AM
You are dumber than dirt. Your whole entry is bullshit and anyone with half a brain knows it. The bottom line is you had a choice when you took the job with the city. Nobody twisted your arm. You were free to seek employment elsewhere if you objected to the residency requirement. Go sell your bullshit somewhere else.
Retired member and I did not get a ballot
3/03/2020 07:35:00 PM
Im retired and I did not receive a ballot.
3/04/2020 08:33:00 AM
Retired and Never got a ballot but did get my fop book Hmmmm?????
3/04/2020 10:34:00 AM
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Me, too. I called and at this point the only way to vote is in-person at the FOP-Lodge #7 building on Thursday, 05 March 2020. Call FOP and they will tell you the hours you can vote in-person.
Completely agree! I walked into a station with a minor family member pink face with a split, fat lip from being beaten by her mother and after notifying my cpt. First thing desk officer and desk sgt is "do you want to get a CR against her? You can get her fired" I was immediately like WTF thank God my family member wasn't an ass but by God I immediately put a CR against both the officer and Sgt with my family member as witness.
3/03/2020 10:36:00 PM
Maybe introduce yourself next time, like a human. You would have avoided the confusion when she told them that my mom beat me. It would be the natural inference. They thought you beat your kid, that is why they asked. You put a CR number on somebody for doing their job and asking a question. You are a complete mule.
3/04/2020 02:39:00 PM
Sugar plum, long story short I stated my office and relation to rhe minor and that the mother was on her way in, minutes behind me and as soon as ahe walked in amd I stated thats the childs mother and both immediately asked her if she wanted to out a CR on me and get me fired! Not what's going on, is that your child? why is her lip swollen and bleeding and her face pink ? Nope, right away, almost egging her on to take advantage of the emotionally heated situation.
It was a retired boss in his personal car. Gas pedal got stuck. Admitted it was his fault and contacted other parties involved so shut the f up
Thanks for doing the right thing, Boss.
Anybody voting for Catanzara is a moron, but then again this is CPD and we are full of morons.
Gets CR's against coppers" Has anyone found out what this was about?? No. How about he got CR'S against the boss(s) who REFUSED to approve the report he wrote listing EJ and Phlegar as offenders when they shut down the expressway. He had to make it official in order to cover his ass from the inevitable retaliation. Remember them telling us "A CR doesn't establish guilt or innocence, it just opens an official investigation". I don't know about you, but I've seen good cops get CRs on other cops over the years, many times simply to "cover their ass" by making the situation official. So getting a cr on another copper without hearing the whole story doesn't mean shit.
What about the numerous other cops he got cr’s on and tried to get fired? He’s all about himself and he’s a dead beat that lives in foreclosure.
Anonymous said...
Seriously one of the dumbest posts I have seen in a long time. You think that everybody is just going to abandon their houses and run out of here?! The new guys would be crazy not to leave but guys with 10 years plus are established in these neighborhoods with kids in schools, friends down the block, family around the corner. Not to mention that a lot of coppers grew up in the city and no matter how shitty it is, this is home. A change in residency does not mean that everybody is going to leave and anyone who thinks that doesnt see the big picture. It gives people a choice And also helps open the door to get some qualified candidates to take this job.
3/04/2020 09:22:00 AM
You are dumber than dirt. Your whole entry is bullshit and anyone with half a brain knows it. The bottom line is you had a choice when you took the job with the city. Nobody twisted your arm. You were free to seek employment elsewhere if you objected to the residency requirement. Go sell your bullshit somewhere else.
Slow down there old timer, nothing I said is bullshit. You honestly think that the city is going to tank if Residency were to be lifted so who has half a brain now? Houses are being bought everywhere and you think just coppers are buying them? Look all around downtown, new condos going up on every block. You think coppers and city workers are buying them all? If you honestly believe that city workers are whats holding this city together than you are dumber than dogshit. I hate the residency requirement but I knew it was that way when I started and now I probably wouldnt move even if I had the choice, Ive established a life here. Whats wrong with giving people the option? The residency is one big factor of why that new guy sitting next to your salty ass probably has less than stellar qualifications to get on the job. It will have to be addressed to get qualified people on the job.
FOP lodge 7 should be put in control of the National FOP. They do nothing for the membership. 3 years and still no contract, Retro pay is going to go south. Only a few working there do anything. If Cantazara gets elected then he got there from the Gel Hair police who thinks he's Cool. He is a goof and has a paper trail of bullshit longer then a freight train. He will be thrown out of the National lodge for sure.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anybody voting for Catanzara is a moron, but then again this is CPD and we are full of morons.
3/05/2020 12:31:00 AM
Why would they be a moron for voting for him? At least he speaks out. Everyone always says where is the FOP on this and that, and it's crickets from them most of the time. Talk about out for themselves. I watched him hammer at the mayor, she didn't like it one bit. At least he illustrates the problems not just goes along silently or just bitch on an anonymous blog. So of course he is in the doghouse a lot, they would love to fire him if possible. Whistle blowers often get into trouble too, just for speaking out and not going along with the crowd. The city wants a nice tame FOP leader that goes along. It's the Chicago Way.
Curious who you voted for and why? The same "leadership" as before? One can predict what one will get with that. Same as before, nothing much at all. But it was your vote. The NYPD complain about their union too but they at least do something and speak out. They turned their backs on Debozo, not something done here despite the terrible mayors that the city has had. I'd say they had their chance to prove their worth and failed. With a woke mayor and a surely a new woke sup in the wings coppers will need someone that isn't afraid to speak up. But that's just my opinion.
It will have to be addressed to get qualified people on the job.
3/05/2020 08:54:00 AM
"Houses are being bought everywhere and you think just coppers are buying them?"
City workers are whats holding the city neighborhoods together. If the city workers are released from the residency requirement, your buying trend in the neighborhoods will be over. Caucasians and African-Americans have fled the city neighborhoods in droves and many more will flee should the residency requirement for city employees be lifted. And, if downtown is all that is left after the neighborhoods are decimated, the downtown buyers will disappear.
Fuck Yeah Cat!
The working cops have spoken, we are tired of the silence by the FOP and all those BS gentlemen's agreements that only benefit the FOP, or their kids.
John you will win this runoff and we want you to continue to drop the hammer on the mayor, the media and the clout.
WORKING COPS said...
Fuck Yeah Cat!
The working cops have spoken, we are tired of the silence by the FOP and all those BS gentlemen's agreements that only benefit the FOP, or their kids.
John you will win this runoff and we want you to continue to drop the hammer on the mayor, the media and the clout.
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Dude, you're dense. Catanzara won't be any different than anyone that's been there before. Matter of fact, if he talks too much shit, they are going to start taking things away. You think he scares the city, you're crazy. We can't strike!!!! We got no leverage!!!! His big mouth won't help. God forbid he wins, then gets fired. What then???? You'll have a separated officer running the FOP. You might be okay with that, but I won't. A police officer with powers of arrest should be the rule. If you get fired, you lose your position with the FOP!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It will have to be addressed to get qualified people on the job.
3/05/2020 08:54:00 AM
"Houses are being bought everywhere and you think just coppers are buying them?"
City workers are whats holding the city neighborhoods together. If the city workers are released from the residency requirement, your buying trend in the neighborhoods will be over. Caucasians and African-Americans have fled the city neighborhoods in droves and many more will flee should the residency requirement for city employees be lifted. And, if downtown is all that is left after the neighborhoods are decimated, the downtown buyers will disappear.
Again false. City workers make up such a small percentage of the overall total that whole neighborhoods are not held together by city workers alone. The city worker neighborhoods have plenty of people that aren’t city workers that live there by choice. You are also assuming that every single city worker is going to say fuck it and jump ship the minute they can, and that’s just not gonna happen and you know it. The buying tread of paying 700k for a bungalow May be over, but overall buying in the neighborhoods won’t end. Stop it.
Teachers talk sh— and get everything they want , they talked crap to Daley , Rahm and Lori .Loti folded like a cardboard house , no backbone . Vote for John. , he will take the fight to city hall .
Again false. City workers make up such a small percentage of the overall total that whole neighborhoods are not held together by city workers alone. The city worker neighborhoods have plenty of people that aren’t city workers that live there by choice. You are also assuming that every single city worker is going to say fuck it and jump ship the minute they can, and that’s just not gonna happen and you know it. The buying tread of paying 700k for a bungalow May be over, but overall buying in the neighborhoods won’t end. Stop it.
3/06/2020 07:07:00 AM
You really are in denial. City workers are the glue in the neighborhoods. Without the glue, things fall apart. When a neighborhood goes to blazes, people flee and they do not flee in increments.
Your analogy about people not jumping ship the minute they can shows you have very little knowledge of human nature. Have you ever lived in a neighborhood where people have literally fled overnight? The first one who sold always got the best deal. After the fracture, property values plummet and so does the quality of life. Release the city workers and you will have neighborhoods in decline. In turn, as the city workers go, so will go the remainder of the residents because no one wants to live in a declining neighborhood.
You keep trying to shove a round plug into a square hole, but it will not work no matter how many times you try it. You are in serious denial.
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Teachers talk sh— and get everything they want , they talked crap to Daley , Rahm and Lori .Loti folded like a cardboard house , no backbone . Vote for John. , he will take the fight to city hall.
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Hey dumb dumb they didn't talk shit, THEY WENT ON STRIKE!!!!! WE CAN'T!!!!! HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!
You really are in denial. City workers are the glue in the neighborhoods. Without the glue, things fall apart. When a neighborhood goes to blazes, people flee and they do not flee in increments.
Your analogy about people not jumping ship the minute they can shows you have very little knowledge of human nature. Have you ever lived in a neighborhood where people have literally fled overnight? The first one who sold always got the best deal. After the fracture, property values plummet and so does the quality of life. Release the city workers and you will have neighborhoods in decline. In turn, as the city workers go, so will go the remainder of the residents because no one wants to live in a declining neighborhood.
You keep trying to shove a round plug into a square hole, but it will not work no matter how many times you try it. You are in serious denial
Although I understand that you know everything about human nature, you are wrong about this and I can see no amount of reasoning will change your mind. I can also bet that you are very close to retirement because only the really old timers left on the job are the ones complaining about being allowed to live where they want. That or you still owe way to much on your Edison Park house and are scared of loosing money cause you know your house wasnt worth the money that you paid. Either way, your still wrong and we will revisit this in a few years when your nice Edison Park neighborhood gets renamed Englewood north cause residency will be lifted at some point in the near future!
Either way, your still wrong and we will revisit this in a few years when your nice Edison Park neighborhood gets renamed Englewood north cause residency will be lifted at some point in the near future!
3/09/2020 10:01:00 AM
1) I never wrote that I know everything about human nature. I wrote that you know little of human nature. Don't exaggerate. It is unbecoming.
2) Close to retirement? Guess again! I most likely have been gone for longer than you have been otj.
3) Sold my house to an issue of mine at a very, very reasonable price, but not until 10 years after retirement when the issue was more financially secure and I, after much written research and many, many travel trips, was absolutely sure of where I wanted to reside.
4) You will not see residency lifted at least for the foreseeable future and, by foreseeable future, I am talking about never in my lifetime and most likely, never in your lifetime, so get used to it.
5) So you do agree? Without residency for city employees, neighborhoods will go to hell? It does my heart good that you do have a brain.
6) Wrong again! You are not doing well! Never lived north. And, if I sold my house in a viable neighborhood to a family member, you can guess where I previously owned a house.
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