Readers in 007
Is this true? Regarding the asshole who fired his gun off-duty triggering a Shot Spotter alert, heavy police response and attacked responding officers?
- A lieutenant and 4 POs were stripped in 007 last night. It turns out the rocket science LT decided to "release without charging" the piece of shit copper that fired off his weapon and battered several of the POs last week.
He felt 4 white cops on a black OFFENDER was racist on the part of the white coppers. He convinced the 4 POs with no time on the job to not sign a complaint.
The moron has only been a lieutenant for 2 weeks.
Not good if true. Not good at all.
Labels: from the comments, rumors, scandals
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
135 Comments:
Hahahah. No, not true at all. I would know, I’m one of the LTs in 007 who had to deal with this cluster!!!!
The officers involved are good people and great police. I know few with their integrity and their character will surely withstand this BS. Stay strong, boys.
yeah not good but what kind of assholes are getting put on the job? Any reasonable person (clout that got the asshole the job) would make sure this problem child was the fuck out of here and dont even bother trying to send the problem to the FD!!! THIS SHIT HAS GOT TO STOP!!!
Obviously the blame lies on the turd who created this mess. He has had mire than one incident that required investigation by IAD, and it’s part of a “pattern and practice” of failed investigations on certain individuals. Some officers always find themselves in repeated ugly jams and surprisingly always find their way out. Only the chosen ones though.
Now moving on. I don’t know the Lt or officers in question.
But I DO know that this “boss” failed the officers under his command, in every sense of the word.
Your job is to make sure that proper lawful protocols are followed, and to protect the officers under you from civil and criminal issues by giving them proper guidance and direction.
In your attempt to be “politically correct” or whatever it was you were doing, you placed a handful of officers who trusted you as their supervisor directly in the motherfucking trick bag.
You did the exact opposite of what you are supposed to do as a supervisor.
In my opinion you need to fall on your sword, take the heat yourself, and then put in your papers and find another profession.
You have no business as a supervisor on the Chicago Police Department.
About this whole incident, I have more questions than answers.
The JC wreaking ball continues to roll Don’t get in its way.
That lieutenant is the typical painfully
stupid, mind-locked and ignorant stupidvisor
that CPD is lousy with...
And he let grievance culture influence
Police procedure?
What's heart-breaking is that the selfish
asshole has now ruined the lives and livelihoods of
four unseasoned young Officers misfortunate enough
to have HIM as a supervisor.
The goof who dropped shots and fought with The Police
needs to be fired and sent to prison. Period.
The lieutenant should be fired.
The commander NEEDS to be fired.
Where in the purple bag fuck was actual
supervision in 007 that night?
That the four P.O.s were so soft that they
couldn't/wouldn't/get a street deputy involved?
Surely SOMEBODY'S "imminent danger" inner alarm
HAD TO BE just loudly clanging away.
No?
Give the young'uns a hard lick.
Hopefully they'll smarten and toughen up.
Or?
Stop promoting morons or at least house
the morons where they can only hurt each other.
Bet this nitwit refers to himself as "woke" too...
This never would’ve happened if he was a merit promotion.
Very true
So some Lt. got the 4 POs not to prosecute.
In the olden days that might have worked...IF the knucklehead was smart enough to realize he got the break of a lifetime and he tucks his tail between his legs, behaves and drops the issue.
But what if he ain't that smart? Doesn't sound like he is. And beefs.
The Lt. could be looking at Obstruction of Justice, Official Misconduct, a slew of UUW violations and who knows what else. And the POs too.
Who is to say it doesn't blow up and 6 months from now the coppers are stripped, looking at 30 pending?
The nitwits Maryann Airhead and Carol Moron at Channel 5 would love another "Code of Silence" exposee.
2 Lt I believe one from 1st watch too
your Lt is a jack-ass... welcome to call-back
Cheaters never win...
If true, the po's will be hanging out with the shit-head in call-back. Time to hire an attorney and sue the shit-head, the Lt and the city.
If true, it will surely make national news.
I hope the Lt gets fired.
No time on the job and getting stripped does that equate to getting fired as it was when I was on the job... I retired in 14’ I been hearing the job is a changin!
4 POs with no time on the job to not sign a complaint.
I hope they were not PPOs with no recourse if fired? File a lawsuit cause if you get fired from a Police job no other Police Dept. will hire you most likely.
Say I was ordered by my LT. not to sign complaint!
I spent some years in 007 and loved it. A big part of what made it great was the supervisors. If this story is true, the days of good supervisors there must be over. Shame on this lt if he pushed the p.o's to cut this jagoff, shame on the sgt's for not speaking up, and shame on the p.o's for being dumb or soft enough to go along with it.
This is true; the 4 white kids who felt compelled to let this shitbird walk free are all stripped. The nerd LT is as well. The shitbird and LT are detailed to callback and the 4 POs are on a desk at various HQ spots. Incredible how one entitled criminal can destroy the careers of all involved that quickly.
Fuck that call the United State Attorney Office 🤑
so if an LT is overseeing the investigation, & these POs are being managed by supervisors how is anyone else stripped? because CPD scapegoats blue shirts. in the future those blue shirts should have arrested the LT too as a party to a crime.
For the group of us in 007,
We knew when this happened that phone calls were made prior to field supervisors reaching the location of the incident.
Apparently this goofy officer has plenty of bosses on speed dial.
At first the Lieutenant was going to process this as an arrest.
But then the phone started to ring off the hook.........
I would love to see the phone records of this incident?
For them stripping the 4 POs they are doing that to see who speaks up first?
I can never see why any current officer feels the need to take care of some other off duty officer when they are drunk or acting irrationally.
It always ends up with the on duty officer getting screwed for trying to help the Off duty and will take months if not years to find the TRUTH.
There was a time when I first came on job.......but those times are long gone.
As for the Sgt. who just got made Lt......Was his head up his ass?
Or was he making up a Favor to some ranking Boss hoping for the return
later on?
You see, “NO GOOD DEED, goes unpunished!”
I speak from experience.........
This Department will eat it’s young and then hire outsiders to investigate and handle the matter!
There is no loyalty.........so ends the lesson.
So Texas how you going to handle This? First true test. Racist Lt needs to be fired or demoted. We are all watching. You will be judged. Possible loss of control if not handled properly. Seminal moment.
Lesson learned for the rest of the department. Fuck covering for others, and fuck what supervisors have to say. Everything bad is going to make it in the public eye. Do the right thing according to the law. At least give yourself grounds to sue the shit out of the city if they shitcan you.
C'mon give names of this incompetent moron of a boss....Gee was he/she merit?
Seriously? Wow. Where is Downtown Brown on this?
You might want to aim a little higher in that district. Think Merit, Merit, Merit in the span of a few years, never really worked a day in his life, and is known to take care of his own, then tell me who you think really made that decision. I guarantee that didn't come from the LT. No way, no how.
So other than 4 newbies loosing there job for not having balls what is not good if true? Cops getting passes for what would jam up the civilian is part of the problem and has been for ever. Loosing the lieutenant is a plus in my book in my book. Didn't see where the POS cop that started the whole thing got fired so things haven't changed that much, have they?
Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this.
If this fool of a lieutenant was stripped, it is a good thing.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
What are the chances that the lieutenant received a phone call and was "told" perhaps he should release the asshole?
Andy, Andy, Andy... your game in 011 & narcotics with Cline won’t save you now. Another self-promoting copper who always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. I feel bad for the new officers that were “swayed” into going along with this idea.
Street Dep TW was no help, as usual. He didn't bother to show up. Still the coward he was in the academy.
It is true. Copper is a connected piece of shit with ties deep to connected pieces of shit. Should not be in the job. Not his first incident. Douglas and Robinson even made appearances that night telling the arresting coppers “he’s just having a bad day, take it easy on him or it could come back to bite you.” There is no length these assholes won’t go to.
Was the LT Merit? If LT was Merit they should still put a stop on merit promotions. Especially if dad or mom is a boss or family members. Look the trends all The bosses kids go to units right after probation. Supt Brown look at the seniority in these units and family ties. Also the multiple merit promotion to the same people. How about clearing everyone in units and headquarters that are full duty officers that can work the street work. Leave those spots for officers that are on light duty or pregnant, or are also sick where they can’t work the street.
Merit Lt or just someone trying to make a name for themself.
Maybe should be dropped a rank or two.
RWOC and coerced* PO’s to change the narrative?
More than just summary punishable in most places.
(*disobey an order from a Lt is insubordination and worth 3 days of suspension time)
Any hoot...
Four PO’s and one arrest, in 007 ?
Why arrest anyone - in these challenging times and era of restorative justice ?
Hard charging lesson was learned again...it doesn’t pay to be proactive, it’s not worth the anguish to chase radio assignments for CB numbers.
Rest assured the sharpest over at The I-A-D is on the case.
Merit Lt ? Is this story in the media yet, or is it buried ????
Sadly it's true
Yea, I’m pretty sure they were all stripped. Not good.
What a piece of shit LT. To bad they can't demote him back to a blue shirt. So glad I'm retired and living in the South especially if those are the kind of bosses you have to work for
Now this is funny!
Ha! Does the district have a commander or captain? Always go up the chain of command and out the insane to everyone.
I seem to remember a while back a certain demographic only wanting poleece of the same demographic responding to calls in their neighborhood. Was it 011? Was it an aldermanic request / idea? SCC can you check the archives?
Not the Police .
Creating a powder keg .
Sounds like lots of trouble within the ranks.
Because of race.
Better Unite and be All Blue!
Poor leadership. The department is doomed. The lieutenant not only cost his own job but the four young officers. Also, Terry ”No Show” Williams was the street deputy, failed to show up, yet he is not stripped, and has his exempt position.
Superintendent Brown make changes.
Another CPD Classic that should be "de-merited" back into patrol.
SAD if/but true...
If you’re going to charge the piece of shit copper that already has a lawsuit against IAD and the department then you better make sure you can charge him and win it in court. Don’t rush to judge unless you were there, saw the evidence clearly and you we’re ready to take the stand against this piece of shit copper that from all accounts is only on the job due to our “police should reflect the community department policy”. I’m sure the coppers were able to completely and accurately justify the stop, right? Hmmmmmmm....? If they’re anything like the two year wonders I’ve seen they probably can’t distinguish between reasonable, articulable suspicion and probable cause. Boys and girls, those coppers were put in a lose, lose situation by a thug from the hood that was given a badge and a gun. Welcome to CPD 2020. Stay safe
That’s when you summon the street Deputy and then if the work environment gets heated then you start documenting all the hostility and get witnesses and hit the department along with the rookie Lt with a lawsuit. It seems that’s all the city knows now. Lawsuit lawsuit lawsuit.
Why do you men and women, even screw around with these people, let them self-destruct, is is really that important to put your lives on the line for people that dont like you?
I could see the LT being striped, but the POs? Under the current regime, most blue shirts are in fear for their jobs. To tell a boss, weather he is right or wrong to do something is career suicide in some cases. I have seen instance where a PO told a boss he was wrong. Turned out the PO was right, but it cost him a promotion on the next test. Brownie better figure out real fast how things work.
It must be true. He’s at callback.
Never had a watch commander release a Police fighter without charges. Back in The day our watch commander told us if anyone fights the police that person, no matter who they are better be going to the hospital before he is brought into the station for felony charges. If true this piece of shit, so called Police Officer who wants to fight the police so be fired along with the incompetent Lt.
Those coppers were stupid , incompetence on lt. ‘s part . Racist ? Responding to a call , being barttered by a gang banger police impersonating thug , hired with politicians help , medical abuses . Notice that thugs goatee . Who does the gangster work for , hit his place with a warrant . Coppers better hire a private attorney , better have that body worn camera video ready . Go to court have Jimmie fox approve charges
Sounds like some stellar policing across the board right there! Why do anything in those ghetto shitholes? If it wasn't for the shotspotter it would have been a 19b. If it wasn't for the city making this job so undesirable, the standards wouldn't have been lowered, and the retard firing off his gun wouldn't have been hired in the first place. Great job Lieutenant. Reason number 1,563,734 why this job sucks the big one!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hahahah. No, not true at all. I would know, I’m one of the LTs in 007 who had to deal with this cluster!!!!
5/23/2020 12:08:00 AM
Well guess you need to eat crow...because 100% true. Not shocked, you couldn’t even protect the people under your command.
I hope the investigation goes higher then the lieutenant. Who called the lieutenant and what did they say? Did some higher rank order the lieutenant to not make an arrest or any paper? I worked in 007 for a few years back in the 90's when Ford was commander. He would routinely call the watch commanders and have charges dropped, to include felony charges, on connected people who were arrested. The watch commander then ordered the officers to release the prisoner. I can't blame the 4 officers on scene. When ordered to do this by a superior officer, what are they to do? It is easy to make comments when you are not the one who is under orders. Was this off duty officer brought into the station, paper made and released by signature of the WC, or everything dumped on scene?
edit from 6:47
Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to blame in this
Anonymous said...
So Texas how you going to handle This? First true test. Racist Lt needs to be fired or demoted. We are all watching. You will be judged. Possible loss of control if not handled properly. Seminal moment.
5/23/2020 05:47:00 AM
Yeah, I'm sure he is really worried now that you wrote that. Good job
PO’S need to FOIA the body cam footage and get it to Hannity.
According to the first post about this Tina Skahill directed the arrest and IAD activity. Which rumor are we to believe?
the supervision on this job is horrible. supervisors are only looking out for themselves. they try to pass the buck to remove them from the picture. they avoid making difficult decisions and want you to be held accountable. it sounds like the LT just wanted to pass this mess along to iad or copa. there was no reason to call the street dep. unless the LT wanted them to tell him what to do. if there is evidence that this odpo recklessly discarged his firearm and then battered/resisted PO's, have him indicted or seek a warrant. this odpo can still be charged if someone pushes the issue as long as the paperwork and bwc's video support the probable cause for the crime. if not...enjoy your time in call back. if the LT was getting phone calls from other bosses not to charge him...then he shouldve docunented that and got a nuhmber on them.
You might want to aim a little higher in that district. Think Merit, Merit, Merit in the span of a few years, never really worked a day in his life, and is known to take care of his own, then tell me who you think really made that decision. I guarantee that didn't come from the LT. No way, no how.
SNELLING
leftfoot and her chums at COPA will look the other way.
gofubdme and lawyer up officers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is true. Copper is a connected piece of shit with ties deep to connected pieces of shit. Should not be in the job. Not his first incident. Douglas and Robinson even made appearances that night telling the arresting coppers “he’s just having a bad day, take it easy on him or it could come back to bite you.” There is no length these assholes won’t go to.
5/23/2020 08:27:00 AM
Boyd wanted to groom this shitbag into the real police because he saw the potential “street cred” skills. Dumb fuck.
No he made it off the list. If he was merit maybe the goof would have been charged.
Look, we all know how this works. It’s not in the best interest of any copper to sign complaints against another cop, specially a well connected cop at that. I know some of the cops who arrested this turd bag and they might not have the 10-15 years on the job some of you veterans have but I guarantee you they have the same or even more experience handling these types of cases. 007 is a fast and non stop district of guns, violence and drugs. 4 years in 007, 006 and 011 definitely prepare you for the grit of this job. It’s not fair that this happened to them and in a culture of clout what can be done? The 4 white cops are the furthest things from racist. The shit bad copper is questionable. I know him from 006.
If this is true and the arrestee ends up hurting someone down the line while on duty, all these guys will get named in the lawsuit because he shouldn’t have been working.
Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this.
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You clearly don't know this gang banging piece of shit.
At first I thought maybe you wrote this to defend yourself, but then I realized you aren't smart enough to write that anyways.
Anonymous said...
Once the smoke clears ...
5/23/2020 06:47:00 AM
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I won’t even quote the rest of this nonsense comment because it is so wrong. It is either a member of the drunk offender’s jag off family or the drunk piece of shit himself.
The truth will emerge in time and those four hard-working, committed public servants will be back on their beats answering jobs in Englewood with smiles on their faces because of the love they have for what little difference we may make day to day. To those that criticize having formed opinions based on rumors alone, shove your ignorance and cynicism where the light doesn’t shine.
"Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this."
Yeah when the 5+ bwcs show the 002 OD being the total piece of shit that he is and his story not matching what actually transpired, the men from 007 will be cleared
The LT is a former Lambert Tree winner...He’s saved. The 4 PO’s not so much. Rule 14 themselves for some sh!t bird that fell through the cracks. SMH
And of course in englewood fashion they’re still chasing cars and pistol totin communerity memebers, there’s zero solidarity apparently. There should be an immediate stoppage of proactive work there if this is all true. The term “ no good deed goes unpunished” is %100 true. That JC has been a thug since the academy days, this is not his first incident with on-duty personnel. He needs to be fired and sent to prison and all the cops involved with this need to grow a fricken pair. I understand you wanna help out a fellow cop however when they start whooping your ass... all bets are off. Good luck to the cops that were doing what they swore to uphold. Fuck the supervisors and JC.
You have a brand new Lt from the elearning class without any formal training left to manage this cluster alone. obvious bad decisions were made and guidance was needed by higher rank. what's not being asked is where was the captain in all this? He was notified but never bothered to come out. WHY?? Maybe if he shows it’s cleaned up and better decisions are made.
From part of what I heard, the Lt didn’t know JC was whisked out by the IAD investigator & had to be picked up at his home. No sign of the commander, xo or street deputy. I feel bad for the officers they got screwed cause they refused to go through w pressing charges figuring the department would be better route in punishing JC. Code of silence rule.
The Captain from 007 could not be botherd, he was pounding miller lites in his basement.
The fact is the OFFENDER/ODPO was DRIVEN HOME by the IAD SGT --since he was drunk---without the victim POs knowledge who were busy doing mountains of paperwork. Wether the IAD sgt was ordered to do that, or did it because he wasn't told the whole story and only thought he was dealing with an allegation of a drunk ODPO, finished that part and called it a night we will see. But by the time the street deputy got there, HOURS later, then watched the video and ordered the arrest, the ODPO was LONG GONE OUT OF THE STATION. The POs didn't even have a chance that night to do an arrest. 1st watch then went to his house to lock him up and he wasn't there. This was no fault of the POs involved
No not merit. Last class was all score. One third of good test takers and 1/3rd of merit promotions turn out as not so bright individuals. Need experience and common sense to make reasonable decisions. Just cause you're a brainiac doesn't make a good leader. Call out nonmerit as you do merit!
I don't care who shows up, calls, emails or begs. MAYBE, we don't go with a felony, but the actions of this off duty member merit his arrest, especially if a firearm was discharged. Add in the fact he resisted detention (lawful by the way) makes it necessary he is arrested and charged. There are many people on this job with misdemeanor arrests, and some with convictions, so if in fact the POS state attorney even considered it, it would not be detrimental on the criminal level. Deservingly so, the administrative investigation SHOULD give him the crack across the nose he deserves, and if it is found the arresting officers made mistakes, well, they would get disciplined based on the circumstances. Obviously not to the same level of the off duty guy. For any supervisor, you need to realize it now, you cannot, and should not kill anything. Some people do not belong on this job, and you can actually be the deciding factor in that. People mess up, they have to be accountable, and no level of intervention should pick whose career gets saved. It's a no brainer, it's the guys who didn't mess up intentionally.
Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this.
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I was in court once on a motion to squash on an agg batt police charge, defense motioned the arrest was unlawful, but see, had an ASA go into court, and say it's never lawful to fight the police even if they are wrong, or made an improper arrest- motion denied. In Illinois you must submit to an arrest & cannot fight, or batter the police, that's what court is for " smoke clearer". see his problem & yours is the belief that it is ok to fight on duty police officers- which is a felony, even under the circumstances you've explained. & note there is a caviat that a bwc does not need to be activated in an extraneous situation- an ambush by an armed offender falls under this.
6.47am,,,,,while you defend the officer who started everything,,,why don’t you address the issue that he started everything when he let rounds fly?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Andy, Andy, Andy... your game in 011 & narcotics with Cline won’t save you now. Another self-promoting copper who always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. I feel bad for the new officers that were “swayed” into going along with this
The greatest ever . Just ask him.
Not shocked by this at all. The supervision continues to trend downward... Why? Because of merit. Supervisors who cannot put in any effort to read any general orders or study, but instead believe they are the best and brightest and earned their merit spot by who they know. Wake up 3 year wonders.. most of these supervisors don't know what police work is because they have never done anything themselves. You have Sgts in Gang & Saturation telling officers to go out and get numbers during this pandemic, when in return the politicians themselves are letting all convicted felons +parolees back out onto the street on recognizance bonds.
There was no merit last class FOOL!
The truth is that a general offense and trrs were completed, but Lt AD didn’t want to do an arrest report and let the offender walk out of the station. The street deputy flipped out when he found out about this and sent people out to go arrest Coleman. Lt AD really fucked all involved
This is what happens when the city promotes lieutenants through eLearning
Boy, this is the dumbest shit I have heard of in a long time....wtf
Fuck! How willing we are to speculate and cast blame and aspersion on our own without a complete picture. If you don’t know what happened well, just make up facts to fill in the blanks so it fits your rant.
What if the brand new Lieutenant (with 3 days as an Lieutenant) called, say the Street Deputy ( with tons of experience) and asked that he come to the scene and advise how to handle the situation? And what if the Street Deputy never answered the request and did not show up until 6 hours later? And what if the new Lieutenant had the Off duty PO’s weapon confiscated and inventoried? And what if the new Lieutenant prevented the off duty PO from washing his hands in order to preserve any potential GSR? And when he did appear, what if the Street Deputy refused to order or approve a GSR test? What if the Detectives who responded , failed to advise and conduct a GRS? They have available very expensive, portable GSR test kits for this very reason.
What if the new Lieutenant called IAD and asked for advice and they did not show up for more than 2 hours, and offered no advice?
What if the new Lieutenant had the area canvassed for a witness, in order to determine if the Off Duty fired a weapon, and no witnesses could be located? What if the new Lieutenant had the responding officers search in earnest for a shell casing and none could be found?
What if the new Lieutenant realized that the CPD and the SAO has 3 years to bring the charges against the off duty PO and decided that rather than rush into the situation and let his 4 “New Guys” become the next YouTube sensation, he would have IAD and the Department all help conduct a more thorough investigation and then bring charges that Crimesha would be less inclined to ignore?
And tough guys, (and you pussy IAD , ‘fuck every copper’ types) what if you were the one, with 3 days as a Lieutenant, on the scene and were abandoned by the Street Deputy (whose job it was to handle) to figure out, how would you have handled it differently?
I’d say the guy was placed in an unenviable position, tried to fully memorialize all that which occurred, protected the on-duty coppers and as a result is now being targeted by Chief of IAD, Karen Konow (sp) (who, incidentally has not worked the street since having her gun taken from her as a scared little recruit in 021st). He is being targeted because IAD believes this was their best opportunity to fire the off-duty PO who they have been after. There is no reason to have jumped to charging that evening. The Lieutenant had the off-duty investigated and charged for his over intoxication, had ensured that all that happened was memorialized in the Case Reports and the TRRs and preserved all the evidence that was found.
O more Merit that was an order from mayor Lightfoot and Charlie Beck
What a farce. Really!!!! Really ,now when someone calls a ten -1, we have to make sure the response is racially equal.
12.48am—you do Mary Ann Ahern’s son is a CPD Officer?
This is a whole different time and place people. In situations like this you better do the right thing. No one will watch out for you. It is your job to look out for you. The liberals have destroyed any sense of security and fraternity we had.
I am so sorry that this happened to you officers. Bad luck and bad timing. I hope they hold a benefit for you guys and this retired copper will give $250 per officer.
Stay safe and stay healthy.
“ Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this.”
He was on his property? So what? You can’t be shooting your gun in your house, front or back yard, in your alley or on your sidewalk. That’s what gun ranges are for. So he fought the officers, but only after the put 1 handcuff on him while trying to obtain ID? You can’t fight the police at any point, allow yourself to be handcuffed and clear up the misunderstanding from there, you don’t fight. Forcefully ambushed after the officers responding to shots fired showed up and observed a bulged they suspected to be a gun? Let me clarify, correctly suspected. In one of the most violent areas in country, responding to a shots fired and there a guy is with a large bulge you believe to be a weapon, Yah you fucking jump on him if your first response is to go hands on. He should’ve immediately stated “police! Police! I’m police!” When he saw squad cars rushing to the scene and towards him. Body cameras turned on halfway through the encounter? So that clearly makes the copper shooting guns in his yard correct right? You’re comment spews of ignorance and shows that either A: you’re not the police or B: you’ve never actually been the working police before. The off duty is 100% to blame for this. Even if he wasn’t the one shooting, he did EVERYTHING wrong. If he just came out to see what was going on, he should’ve immediately identified himself and cooperated. Which he didn’t. What it sounds like to me is some shitbird from 007 got into the police academy and continues to act like the shithead he is. He is 100% wrong in this situation and didn’t do anything like he should have. And it’s embarrassing that you don’t know this.
Rumor is that a couple bosses called the Lt and told him if he didn’t make this go away, his career would.
You might want to aim a little higher in that district. Think Merit, Merit, Merit in the span of a few years, never really worked a day in his life, and is known to take care of his own, then tell me who you think really made that decision. I guarantee that didn't come from the LT. No way, no how.
Brownie I record he likes Merit. So expect more just his guys now. Brow hasn’t got the balls to stand up to the turds clout. Nothing will happen and it will all be covered up.
Anonymous said...
Hahahah. No, not true at all. I would know, I’m one of the LTs in 007 who had to deal with this cluster!!!!
5/23/2020 12:08:00 AM
???? Very Very True dumb-a$$, but youre right about it being a cluster !!!
Everytime a piece of shit city employee is arrested and then released without charging its a shit storm of media and lawsuits. They need to lock him up and charge him. Its not too late, explaining that the lieutenant intimidated you all or gave a direct order to release him.
This is exactly the type of guy you don't do a favor for. Think of the histories of some of the headline making goofs we've had on this job. Every single one of them had previously stepped in it big time, but were taken care of. It didn't teach them a thing. They continued until they publicly embarrassed the entire department.
I guarantee this shithead had a criminal history that was covered up. There has always been corruption when it comes to getting certain people on this job. It's too bad we dont have any real investigative journalists in this city. That combined with the MSM's fear of showing anything negative about black people will insure the truth about this guy will never come to light.
Numerous former and current narcotics officers are smiling and laughing really really hard right now. Hey AD, not so funny now is it? Remember me? You decided to talk to me like a child after a search warrant then I had to go to another team. Remember?? Enjoy yourself down in callback. What comes around goes around, you should have treated people better and had some humility in your life. Not too many people here feel sorry for you.
If they were assigned by the ccr and didn’t turn on their recorders before they are really idiots. If the goof didn’t ziD himself upon their arrival he is really a goof. If the supervisors on the scene didn’t order him taken into the station they are goofs. If the watch commander didn’t notify the on duty street deputy who should have made him blow and piss and strip him right there he is a goof.
Bottom line here is if he is related to a politician in Cook County and no boss didn’t charge him accordingly every boss involved should be stripped and fired.
Who runs the police dept real bosses or merit political hacks including s Groot, Preckwinkle and Madigan?
Remember what Billy Jack said “When policemen break the law there is no law only the fight for survival”.
What a fucked up concept “Merit.” If you want to change the police dept back to a real police force you have to get politics out of law enforcement period. Politicians are the cancer of law enforcement. There are three branches of government and that is the cure keep them separate. When politicians control the police bosses and the judges Society is fucked. Police bosses, judges, prosecutors need to get a backbone.
No not merit. Last class was all score. One third of good test takers and 1/3rd of merit promotions turn out as not so bright individuals. Need experience and common sense to make reasonable decisions. Just cause you're a brainiac doesn't make a good leader. Call out nonmerit as you do merit!
Exactly. Too much college. Not enough grade school. Score means dick.
Lt. will be promoted,
P.O.'s will get screwed.
Business as usual......
12.48am—you do Mary Ann Ahern’s son is a CPD Officer?
Do I know that Ahern's son is CPD?
Yes. I know that. But having seen her on the news and live forums lapdogging Carol Moron on her "Code of Silence ' spiel, I stand.
And the general editorial orientation of NBC5 is not pro-police. Maybe not stridently anti-police at the moment.
Very true. 100%
“Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this.
Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this.”
It sounds like you barely graduated from grammar school the way you write, and based on your logic and lack of knowledge of the law, you must not be the police or a horrible officer at that. You must have gone to the Academy with this moron JC. Get a clue next time before you write anything that makes you sound like an idiot. And learn how to write and spell.
Anonymous said...
12.48am—you do Mary Ann Ahern’s son is a CPD Officer?
5/23/2020 07:02:00 PM
Used to be....ATF now
12.48am—you do Mary Ann Ahern’s son is a CPD Officer?
Look who just woke up...
The LT is a former Lambert Tree winner...He’s saved. The 4 PO’s not so much. Rule 14 themselves for some sh!t bird that fell through the cracks. SMH
You don’t “win” the Lambert Tree award you receive it, but then you sound like one of those everybody gets a trophy types.
1:57, you took the words out of my mouth!!! I don't know this off duty goof, but I did train in 007 and met plenty of assholes. Always worked shithole districts, on purpose, to include 006 for several years. Would love to know who his fto was. Most of my recruits made tac and then Sgt., not by merit either!!!
what are they teaching this new generation of police?
Gee, years back wasn’t there an off duty cop shooting her gun off her balcony on Harlem just north of Belmont?
Work with all of these guys and I assure you they are not stupid cops. This was a no win situation and the moment this know nothing LT got to the watch he was wheelin and dealin, making sure everyone knew he was da real poleece. Hopefully he steps up for these guys cause this loudmouth surely called all the shots.
There's another story from 007 in the 1990s when Ford was commander making calls on behalf of thugs. Ford seemed to have a habit of releasing thugs from felony charges. However, one time one of the victim officers also had a phone call, and the detectives arrested the thug a few days later. Felony charges approved. Ford was angry! The case went to court, and it was continued every month until the victim officer was on furlo. The officer did not appear and they demanded trial. Charges dropped. My rule was unless I was out of town, I went to court on furlough too. Most times you could turn in a lot of yellow slips with lots of hours on it during furlough.
Anonymous said...
4 POs with no time on the job to not sign a complaint.
I hope they were not PPOs with no recourse if fired? File a lawsuit cause if you get fired from a Police job no other Police Dept. will hire you most likely.
Say I was ordered by my LT. not to sign complaint!
5/23/2020 02:08:00 AM
Like any half witted person would go and apply with another department after this experience. Yeah, let’s try again with a different department and see if we can get fired again.
Of all the comments above regarding this incident, one stands out: the officers did not turn on their BWCs until halfway through the incident.
If true, and I repeat, if this is true, shame on the officers. The state's attorney rarely if ever approves felony charges for a case in which officers are assigned BWCs and the officers did not turn on the cameras to capture the entire incident.
Why won't the ASA approve charges when the BWC does not capture the entire incident? I can only guess, based on experience, that it boils down this: if you have a BWC and don't turn it on, then you are violating a department order. If you violate one department order, how many more are you violating? A defense attorney will be over this all day, and rightfully so in the interests of their client. This is hard to beat in court, especially if the original call is an OEMC call. You had plenty of time to turn on the BWC on the way to the call. If you have a BWC and it is not recording, then what you say is not trusted in court. Don't blame the ASA, blame yourself for not following department orders. If you have a BWC, then the camera is believed and not you. If the camera is not on, then you are not believed. Sad but true. Fact of life.
So I won't cry for the officers who did not turn on their cameras if that happened. (Below I blame supervisors and department's hiring practices.)
For the supervisors. I would venture that this was probably not the first time the officers did not turn on the cameras. We've had over three years to get used to them. If they did not turn on the BWC, then I criticize the supervisors for allowing this pattern to continue. Supervisors who do not watch over their officers and ensure the cameras are always turned on in compliance with orders, are doing their officers a disservice and are themselves violating department orders for not correcting them.
And any higher ranking boss who made a phone call to protect said piece of garbage who never should have been hired, know that your credibility as a boss has just tanked. You may not care about that as you collect your big salary, attend meetings with like-minded sycophants, and have cute dollies lounging around your office, but you are degrading the police department as a whole and the city at large. You are violating your oath of office. You are insulting all of the honest and hard-working officers in this department who go to work everyday to make a difference, and whose hard work makes you look good (though that is not a hard-working copper's intention).
And to the superintendent and mayor, by allowing the CPD to hire unqualified people into the police department, make merit promotions not based on actual merit, and then promote morons to exempt level, you are subjecting the city and its taxpayers to future lawsuits with big settlements. Isn't this one of the things you are trying to avoid? Don't you want a better police department? Isn't there a Consent Decree you have to follow? Give those clouted jobs to Streets and San, or some other department. The Police Department is too important to the well-being of the City and has too much of a public face to have incompetent people with sorrid pasts as employees or in high-ranking positions.
Don't forget about the dip shit copper who was shooting off is gun. Everyone is going to get jammed up over this goof. I say f-him and let him take his wack.....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No not merit. Last class was all score. One third of good test takers and 1/3rd of merit promotions turn out as not so bright individuals. Need experience and common sense to make reasonable decisions. Just cause you're a brainiac doesn't make a good leader. Call out nonmerit as you do merit!
5/23/2020 03:41:00 PM
If you are equating 'good test takers' with guys/gals who 'know the general orders' then, yes, they screw up too.
But merit don't even know the general orders, and they have proven that. Not even a question.
expose the clouted phone calls and identify the sponsers of the off duty
Anonymous said...
Rumor is that a couple bosses called the Lt and told him if he didn’t make this go away, his career would.
5/23/2020 07:21:00 PM
Then out the bosses that called!
Well, I was not at the scene of this cluster f**k, but by all of the conflicting accounts of what happened, no one was.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Work with all of these guys and I assure you they are not stupid cops."
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seconded. they are great guys that responded to a shotspotter the rest of the district is glad to have been nowhere near. completely unfortunate. they will be fine
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You have a brand new Lt from the elearning class without any formal training left to manage this cluster alone. obvious bad decisions were made and guidance was needed by higher rank. what's not being asked is where was the captain in all this? He was notified but never bothered to come out. WHY?? Maybe if he shows it’s cleaned up and better decisions are made.
5/23/2020 03:28:00 PM
If you don't know what you're doing, you call somebody who does.
Anonymous said...
“Once the smoke clears we will get the real story. From what I hear, from 007 he was on his property (at his home) did fight with the officers but only after they placed a cuff on him while obtaining his identification. Which they say he never did identify. No protective pat down was never conducted on him, which is related in the arrest report. He was forcefully ambushed when they saw a Suspicious bulge in his crotch, which was were the gun was. Not to mention the POs only turned on their body cameras halfway through the encounter. Call me silly but it don’t seem like the off duty is to bloom in this.
Dear God man, are you fucking serious? What this off duty police officer did was highly irresponsible and criminal.
He discharged his firearm without legal justification and therefore he is responsible. Period.
Unfortunately, he took down four officers, their lieutenant and probably the desk sergeant and their sector sergeant.
Hey everyone HE NEVER DISCHARGED HIS WEAPON!!! Stop assuming things that are not true. There is NO report of him discharging his weapon. He was not arrested for discharging his weapon. There was a shot spotter alert 4 blocks west of the arresting location. All officers did a canvas of the location and the vehicle and there was No shell casing found. Furthermore there was no GSR done. Please state facts. The report never mentions illegal discharge. You all are clearly judging this situation based on what you’ve heard and not seen. Present the facts at hand. The report does however state that the off duty never identified, which he clearly does, on camera. The off duty officer did identify himself as soon as/during when he was ambushed for having a gun. Actually 1 officer onscene stood back and watched the entire situation happen, never approaching because he heard the off duty say he was an officer. Not to mention another officer had the off duty star and ID in his hand the entire time. He even told the other three to stop and placed the star in their face. When they wouldn’t unhand the off duty this officer walked off too. Again when the smoke clears the truth will come to light. Until then continue your speculation circus!
This lieutenant's list is going to end up above number 200 which is unheard of in the meritorious era.
Anonymous said...
Fuck! How willing we are to speculate and cast blame and aspersion on our own without a complete picture. If you don’t know what happened well, just make up facts to fill in the blanks so it fits your rant.
What if the brand new Lieutenant (with 3 days as an Lieutenant) called, say the Street Deputy ( with tons of experience) and asked that he come to the scene and advise how to handle the situation?
It's in the orders that the Commander respond and if not him/her, the Captain to shots fired by an Officer in their District on or off duty. IAD will respond to do the blow. The new LT should have read the orders while sitting at home.
Gee, years back wasn’t there an off duty cop shooting her gun off her balcony on Harlem just north of Belmont?
5/24/2020 06:46:00 AM
Stop reminding everyone. She's my fiance' and still trying to live it down. She promised not to squeeze off any rounds at our reception. Life is going to be exciting!
Not Merit , but No Balls. You don’t cover for an ash—- that puts his hands on the police . Dude looks like a gangster with goatee beard and tattoos. Was weapon inventoried , sent to crime lab , why wasn’t he charged with aggravated battery to a police officer ? Resisting Arrest ?
5/24/2020 06:08:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey everyone HE NEVER DISCHARGED HIS WEAPON!!! Stop assuming things that are not true. There is NO report of him discharging his weapon. He was not arrested for discharging his weapon. There was a shot spotter alert 4 blocks west of the arresting location. All officers did a canvas of the location and the vehicle and there was No shell casing found. Furthermore there was no GSR done. Please state facts. The report never mentions illegal discharge. You all are clearly judging this situation based on what you’ve heard and not seen. Present the facts at hand. The report does however state that the off duty never identified, which he clearly does, on camera. The off duty officer did identify himself as soon as/during when he was ambushed for having a gun. Actually 1 officer onscene stood back and watched the entire situation happen, never approaching because he heard the off duty say he was an officer. Not to mention another officer had the off duty star and ID in his hand the entire time. He even told the other three to stop and placed the star in their face. When they wouldn’t unhand the off duty this officer walked off too. Again when the smoke clears the truth will come to light. Until then continue your speculation circus
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GTFOH! You are a thug in uniform!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You have a brand new Lt from the elearning class without any formal training left to manage this cluster alone. obvious bad decisions were made and guidance was needed by higher rank. what's not being asked is where was the captain in all this? He was notified but never bothered to come out. WHY?? Maybe if he shows it’s cleaned up and better decisions are made.
5/23/2020 03:28:00 PM
If you don't know what you're doing, you call somebody who does.
He did. He called his Capt. Capt told him he was coming in. Never showed up. His more experienced co LT for the tour went home early after intervening in the situation. Called the street deputy. Street deputy took 4 hours to respond. IAD even gave the shit bag copper a ride home.
"...I don't think that the off duty was to bloom in this one..."
I like it when police officers bloom. I've had several do it right in front of me.
It was delightful.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
I don’t know about all the paperwork but I am sure his OT slip was perfect!
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