What Are You Thinking?
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution begins as follows:
- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
Article VI, Paragraph 2 (The Supremacy Clause) states the following:
- This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
In plain language, "It provides that state courts are bound by, and state constitutions subordinate to, the supreme law." There is ample case law regarding this.
Meet Exhibit A in an upcoming Federal Lawsuit (sorry about the double pic - it was sent to us like this):
Meet Exhibit A in an upcoming Federal Lawsuit (sorry about the double pic - it was sent to us like this):
- Following through with Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s promise to take action against churches that violate social distancing rules, the Chicago Police Department issued $500 fines to three separate houses of worship that held services over the weekend, city officials said.
Police cited Elim Romanian Pentecostal Church, Philadelphia Romanian Church of God and Metro Praise International for their services.
Willie Wilson is said to be paying all the fines at this point in time - $1,500 for hundreds of thousands in free publicity.
Executive Orders are not laws. Even Putzger knows this as evidenced by his attempt to get more power this week in Springfield (which he withdrew - see post a few below this one) and previous legal briefs written by (can you believe this?) Lisa Madigan.
Ticket issued by Unit 215, Star 70. That's a Captain's star, isn't it? So the Federal Lawsuit is going to read:
Executive Orders are not laws. Even Putzger knows this as evidenced by his attempt to get more power this week in Springfield (which he withdrew - see post a few below this one) and previous legal briefs written by (can you believe this?) Lisa Madigan.
Ticket issued by Unit 215, Star 70. That's a Captain's star, isn't it? So the Federal Lawsuit is going to read:
- Defendants: City of Chicago; Mayor Lori Lightfoot; Superintendent David Brown; Captain Whoever; et al
Better start making a mental list of all of your assets Captain - property, salary, vehicles, deferred comp, pension. We recall those days...and not in a good way.
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posted by SCC at 5:31 AM
151 Comments:
Star number belongs to Nieves.
A dep Chief I believe.
If Willie Wilson is paying the fine, there isn't going to be a lawsuit.
Worship at your own risk. If the virus brings them closer to god let them. Don't give a flying (you fill in the blank).
You'd think Lori, of all people, would know Federal Laws. She is after all a former Federal prosecutor.
Sky Pilot Pulls Over Metro Praise
Commander Kimble dumped time LT and Deputy Chief Bill Bradley of OCD dumper back to LT in late moves last night. Rumor is Commander Jimmy Sanchez elevated to Deputy Chief of OCD and Narcotics will be disbanded today and some sort of combination unit of 189/193 will exist. Jeff Shaaf will be the Commander of that Unit.
I give this person credit for at least writing the ticket himself/herself
Sounds like Roberto Nieves, district commander.
HAHAHAHAH. Captain Schmuck Doofus,
Have a wonderful time thinking about the federal lawsuit that is about to envelope your life for the next several years.......
As you probably know, or should know as a "captain" of police, the Federal shit show in terms of judicial proceedings don't exactly flow like diarrhea , but more like constipation.
Believe me, you will have constipation every day just thinking about losing a lot of your equity because of, well you know....
Skank Groots illegal orders . Also, against a place of worship ? WTF.
In the name of whats holy, have you no god given senses.
Those two bars are going to seem very very heavy once the subpoena arrives.
Deputy Chief of A/5 Roberto Nieves?
The Illinois Constitution has freedom of worship too. 😃
Im guessing the CAPTAIN is very close to retirement.
You will also notice that this so called order was not inventoried as evidence.
when do police use the word congregate?
any piks by an ET?
Names of person in attendance? Contact card of each person breaking so called law?
No RD number?
NO inspectors on scene.
Where is the Chief of the Constitutions? is she guiding this lowly captain?
Officers on scene? can The FOP J CATZ put beef on exempt for violating right like he did to Special happy ending ED?
When the church files a lawsuit can the CAPTAIN be sued for personal assets since he should know better?
and in a few days this will just be another asshat that cost taxpayer alot of cash and he will walk out with his goldstar in retirement just like special ED did.
WEIRD NO INSPECTOR GENERAL opinion on this we should ask he is very smart.
Deputy Chief Roberto Nieves star 70 wrote the citation.
The people support the CPD officers who know their oath is to defend the LAW, not the dictators.
That's the commander of the 024 district.. RN
Straight from the Area boss, too. Guess the mayor and new super were too busy getting to know each other.
So who’s the stupid motherfucker that signed-off on this winning lottery ticket?
I’m no handwriting analysis expert, but did some minion actually have the balls to tell Bosshole Star #70** to go pound sand when ordered to John Hancock this supposed violation?
Nahhhhh.... it’s safer to assume that Star #70 was too lazy to write the whole violation.
** < fingers crossed > it’s asshole Dave Harris who will soon find his tit in the wringer
and groot was a federal prosecutor??
makes you wonder how she got her diploma.........
willie wilson for senate!!!!
he had my vote for mayor, he will have it for senate
FUCK DICK DURBIN!!! total useless asshat
Actually this is promising. No patrolman, no sergeant even no lieutenant was stupid enough to issue the citation. Now if the captain had any sense he would have refused and made some exempt embarrass themself.
I’m just lost that he wrote D.C. The Supreme Court has already said that our peace can’t be breached. So without an actual Complainant, and the city doesn’t count, and it can’t be the P.O... How can this even be issued? The fact that church was held, “alarmed and disturbed” someone...? This guy is going to get hammered at the Dirksen... I tell Recruits all the time on FTO... The ridiculous things that bosses want done, regardless if it’s legal or constitutional, and idiots just go along with it. Those very same bosses won’t be anywhere near you at the Dirksen while you are listing assets and they sure as hell won’t be saying “no, it’s ok, I told him to do it!”
Metro Dade busts Metro Praise
It was bad that Patrol Officers blocked the parking lots, but it would be worse if they issued the tickets too.
Don't do it!
No captain has star#70. No captain assigned to 215 either. Maybe dept of revenue??
Zero sympathy for Star 70. I hope he, along with the city and groot (doubtful unfortunately) get taken to the cleaners. Stand up against this treasonous dwarf.
Three lawsuits? Not going to be much left after the second one...
I’ve been saying this all along. When coppers are writing people for this unconstitutional “violation” they will resort to old habits and write them for Disorderly Conduct. I hope this ballless person gets sued. The Supreme Court made it clear that an officers peace cannot be disturbed so who was the complainant? Surely not the 26 people in church.
Let the civil rights lawsuits begin, you took an oath to support and uphold the constitution and this Putz chose to ignore that to be Groot and the democratic parties lap dog. Hope he is driven into bankruptcy.
Nothing like jagoff sitting across from you and his lawyer asking if you had a recent appraisal on your house so "My client knows what his new house is worth."
You're right. Don't recall those times fondly.
Looks like city will be paying one less Captain and writing 3 churches very big checks. How could he be that stupid deserves to be run down by the train headed his way. Please no defending this tool, with he was only doing his job. Very glad he is jammed up, don’t be next.
I believe it's actually DC RN
The city deserves every lawsuit it gets from this. And so does the department. This is a slam dunk federal lawsuit. The city has many of those against them that will be filed. Embarrassing. Again, I’m happy to see that almost all of CPD is refusing these illegal orders (even if you hear these covid dispersals, I guarantee they’re driving by and waiving and pulling a number for it, no one is actually doing it). Like commander dickhead Spencer’s orders to check identification to enter certain blocks, coppers just sit there and play on their phone. So the overall boots on the ground haven’t really enforced any of this (I’m sure someone can name some occasion, but overall it’s been good). The leadership of the department has been horrible though, seemingly just as eager to act as a dictator as our little Nazi mayor. Because of it, when this is all over, this is going to hurt our reputation further, but this time with folks on the right side of the isle, as they sat and watched CPD enthusiastically trample rights of churches. Now we all know it’s the bosses, but it will be reported “CPD tickets churches”. This was a great time in history to show our respect for the law and people’s rights, but too many merit bosses are worried about their next promotion.
Methinks Willie Wilson wants another crack at mayor. From what I've seen lately, he just might make it. If only he were a republican.
In this particular instance, I’d say the captain knowingly handed the win to the Plaintiff based on what he wrote in the narrative of the citation. He most likely didn’t agree with what was being done to these people and gave them the ammo to fight it at a later date.
At least this Captain didn't make a subordinate write that or they were smart enough to refuse.
Hahaha. That is the Deputy Chief for that unit. Oh never mind nothing will happen to him. Move along
Who is this Captain towing the company and unconstitutional line ? Just a pussy pawn doing what he’s told regardless what is right.
Good. At least it was a Cpt trying to keep his spot and be a company guy that will end up getting fucked over at 219 Dearborn and not a blue shirt.
Oh no SCC, that's DC Nieves.
Just when I thought the mayorass, city & CPD brass had maxed out on stupid, they find a way to turn it up to 11.
Un-fucking-believable
It would be funny if the Captain was a clout-baby. Not so funny if truly earned.
At least he wrote it and didn't demand that a PO do it...….. he is still and idiot. This should be handled by a DC or better yet Downtown Brown.
Just an example of whats coming. Keep voting socialist. I can't even say Democrat anymore. Two reasons that they want to keep this crisis going. 1. to have mail in voting. 2. To have a terrible economy and job loss to defeat Trump in Nov. Most Americans are catching on, but never in Cook County and Chicago. Demorat, even if it kills them.
The only good thing about this overreach by the Democrats is that it is forcing citizens to learn their Constitutional rights.
You’d think with jug-ears being a “Constitutional expert” the left would be more apt to stay within its confines, but no, The left and Lord of the Flies doesn’t like the constraints the Constitution puts on.........THE GOVERNMENT.
We can't open up, we are all going to die! We won't be safe until Biden and superhero Stacy are running things.
Churches won't sue
Also not one story, other than SCC, about cars being towed. None of the people towed have come forward either
Tyranny is now law. I remember a time when Chicago wasn't run by communists, a weird mayor with zero family values. I remember several mayors who didn't hate the police, and law and order. Retired and outta Chicago and lovin it.
Nice going Cpt. Dick Head. We suspected you were a clown with bars for some time. Thanks for the confirmation. You are now part of Chicago Police Dept. lore and forever known as a horses ass.
That's the most creative use of the charge, disorderly conduct that I have seen in quite some time. I would have gone with Gang Loitering, and asked for a dispersal number.
If some pays the fine, the respondent will have to admit guilt. That will negate the lawsuit a little, wont it?
I would personally frame the ANOV and hang it next to a picture of the check the city is going to write.
I'm sure the Deputy Chief is politically connected enough to know he will be indemnified by the city.
And in other cities:
Barbers rendezvous at cigar bars to cut the hair
of judges and prominent businessmen.
One peasant took his dog to the pet groomer and
had the groomer give him a haircut on the QT.
The hell of it is, Groot and Browneye will walk away unscathed, DC Nieves will get taken to the cleaners though everything he has (or ever will have) will be a drop in the bucket compared to the tens (hundreds?) of millions that will fall on Chicago taxpayers.
Whoever this Captain is, he/she is a true leader. The good captain wrote this tag him/herself and put themselves, not some lowly officer/sergeant on front street. The Captain got an order and dropped the hammer him/herself.
Maybe this is an illegal order, time will tell, but at least it does come to a legal fight the Captain will be on the line, and in a position to give the entire story first hand.
It’s only a hearing like the one for parking tickets and will probably be dismissed by the hearing officer. Wilson will pay the fine if found liable.
I will not support a CPD officer that enforces the illegal orders of the Mayor Governor. Hope they get sued and lose everything they have. Would be perfect Karma for their actions.
Roberto Nieves must be nominated for the poster child of merit appointees, no harm shall befall him...
I heard it was Captain E.U. Nick. What is Unit 215????
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
The Constitution does not apply to Chicago the Mayor is above the law and those not following orders will be taken out and punished severely orders of the Fuhrer
This is what a totalitarian dictatorship looks like.
Secular atheism in practice, enforced by sanction.
This is today's Socialist Democrat Party.
Your grandparents and parents wouldn't recognize it, let alone support it.
Why should you?
Keep On Chooglin'
What a dumb ass!
Well at least the boss wrote it. Curious if he or she protected the troops or if the troops all said hell no you write it LOL.
Illinois police will not arrest individuals who violate executive orders
https://disrn.com/news/illinois-police-will-not-arrest-individuals-who-violate-executive-orders/
What is unit 215?????????????????? anybody know
1) have memorial day party (perfect day to considering)
2) refuse to give name (be friendly) to officer (you know because you didnt do anything)
3) get arrested
4)aclu and you will split million dollar settlement
Haha Haha but serisouly how is this not the perfect recipe for getting rich quick?
Willie Wilson means we’ll, but paying the fine is an admission, acknowledgment of wrong doing.
Deranged Larri LightFührer never was that sharp of an attorney, she was booted first from a private firm and then the US Attorneys Office.
Corp Council had to put the FOP contract negotiations to the side and up their game on the ordinance.
This is a posturing ANOV on Larri’s demand and maybe the Lt was there to take one for the Team?
I’m sure the WC-DC done their homework, but none probably been around for the Chicago vs. Morales gang dispersal suit of the early ‘90’s.
“ (e) Fails to obey an order by a peace officer, traffic control aide, fire department official, or other official, who has identified himself as such, or is otherwise reasonably identifiable as such, issued under circumstances where it is reasonable to believe that the order is necessary to allow public safety officials to address a situation that threatens the public health, safety, or welfare; or...”
Questions:
Was there an interruption of worship? Was this a peaceful church assembly ?
Did the church refuse to comply, offered an opportunity to disassemble the peaceful religious observances once the peace officer, traffic control aide, fire department official or other official who has identified himself as such, gave the order to disperse?
Did the congregation fully understand, given notice the demand of dispersal?
Was the citation issued after the peaceful observances?
Is there actual evidence of the assembly, like were there any infections present, were swabs taken, collected from a peaceful congregation or surfaces?
Why didn’t the pastor just run away?
Ain’t no Lt gonna foot chase ...that’s against generals orders.
Good thing the church probably won’t go beyond a civil remedy and follow thru with a punitive assessment.
Ok, case law study:
Give me another example of “public health, safety or welfare” that wasn’t or has never been enforced. CTA, airport and Lower Wacker Dr. piss bums don’t count. (Knowingly be affected with but not limited to any influenza, herpes or conjunctivitis, with the intention of spreading contaminating or discharging said infectious spores by public contact.)
This will be another costly settlement for the city.
Elections have consequences, let’s hope the church community is taking notice of the Democrats in November.
What is Unit 215? It's not in the FOP book.
Lisa MADIGAN! Haha, Toto pulling back the curtain a bit on who’s filling Fatass with shit.
Where's pfuckhead's citation for blocking the whole damn highway???
How far will you go to keep your gold star? Should be a game.
https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2020/05/disregard-for-life-was-gov-pritzker-talking-about-rep-bailey-or-rep-deluca/
any comment Jelly Belly?
There was nothing to substantiate anyone acting "disorderly" by going to a church for peaceful prayer. And only 26 people attended - leaving more than enough room for adequate distancing if such a requirement exists. The most incompetent piece of work I've ever seen to date, not to mention an outrageous abuse of authority. The weak minded are so easily manipulated to do the devil's bidding.
Anonymous said...
If Willie Wilson is paying the fine, there isn't going to be a lawsuit.
5/21/2020 05:36:00 AM
WRONG.
Is Jimmy Sanchez going to take his just made SDSC Room operator VC with him when he moves up....or make him merit sgt..not missed VC, the Wolf had been filling in just nice...
Very sad ....
Deputy Chief Nieves is a Merit , dummies that couldn’t pass a test if he had the questions .
Look at the citation, that dude could never write a case report , arrest report ,complaints without help .
An HDO political appointee like the should have been fired Escamerit.
Brown is a puppet , escamerit is walking proof .
Section E of the Disorderly Conduct Ordinance is a Open Ended Travesty.
(e) Fails to obey an order by a peace officer, traffic control aide, fire department official, or other official, who has identified himself as such, or is otherwise reasonably identifiable as such, issued under circumstances where it is reasonable to believe that the order is necessary to allow public safety officials to address a situation that threatens the public health, safety, or welfare.
By that BROAD As F language..She could have Unit 215 doing this up through the 5th of July if she continues to declare a local Health Emergency.
And are we certain it was DC Nieves?
RN is a stand up guy would never order somebody to write this BS
Button 70 drinking that Kool-Aid
Oh, yeah!
These same title 42 section 1983 suits AND 18 242 Criminal Complaints are coming....for First AND Second Amendment violations. Go ahead Officers, enforce those LAWS that cant be MADE OR ENFORCED. I DARE YA.
You see, those crooked politicians wont be named in those Qualified Immunity stripping suits, you Officers will. You will be the Human Shields those crooked politicians hide behind. And Know This...if the First Amendment remedies fail the people, eventually they will move to the Second. History Proves this too. We The People want you Officers on our side, the Right Side, the RIGHTS side. Please choose to stand with us, rather than against us.
Please stand United against those crooked politicians!! We The People WILL and DO support those who do so!!
Anonymous said...
You'd think Lori, of all people, would know Federal Laws. She is after all a former Federal prosecutor.
5/21/2020 05:57:00 AM
Another reason why she’s a former federal prosecutor, she was also a lawyer at a high dollar law firm she’s a former lawyer they’re also just like she will be a former mayor very soon! You have to know the rules before you break the rules it makes it more fun!
Pay attention, kiddies. THAT'S how you get promoted.
21/2020 06:48:00 AM
No RD # required for those citations
Full text of the First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
This is relevant because it wouldn't be terribly hard for the city to argue that they're not prohibiting religious choice (i.e. you can still be a whatever-ist in your own home and not get arrested for it) and that's the intent of the first portion of the amendment. They are, however, taking a dump on the assembly clause and coming dangerously close to shutting down dissent. And of course the whole limited duration of emergency powers thing.
At some point everyone is going to have to choose between the citizens and the state apparatus. It's clear that the various mayors and governors telling people to stay home are not going to give up their power voluntarily, so it's just a matter of what happens when honest people start to get desperate enough to not do what the local authorities are telling them to do.
First of all, I don’t know this captain and I don’t know what he is like. We all have been in Chicago long enough to know how District Commander’s and exempt rank are achieved. He made a decision to follow the mayor’s “rules” . He did not ask the subordinates to do it he did it. Give him credit for this. Seeing what’s going on in the city these days I would say “ it’s a rare example of leadership”.
Always thought Nieves was a nice guy and fairly intelligent too. I hope these actions don’t come back to haunt him.
Well put Joe Citizen.
I hope this Captain gets his or her ass handed to them in federal court. I usual would never want to see a police officer go down, but I love America more than I love this job. Then again this person is obviously a political hack and not a cop.
The Policeman will enjoy the sight of Star #70
loudly and publicly being burned at the 1983
tort action stake.
Star #70 is probably in a REALLY big hurry
to put in his retirement papers so he can
try to run away and hide.
Nope...
Ain't finna happ'n cap'n.
Actually we're quite surprised that Star #70
didn't order/threaten some poor innocent slob
beat car operator to write that ANOV.
Maybe Star #70 got caught while "posin' to be chosen"
and got hit with the shit stick by Groot or one of
Groot's insiders...
"Ok... YOU, write the ANOV..."
Star #70 looks around real crazy-like as
EVERY Copper with good sense has suddenly
and magically disappeared without a trace.
>Fart!<
"Huh? Who? Me?"
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Give it time until Groot or Brown loudly and
publicly unravel like a busted League Ball
clearing the center field fence...
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
So Fat Ass and his side kick, the mutant midget, allow the money making social dope dens to operate, liquor stores to stay open, street corner dope dealers to work, ok with street parties and intimidate the general public. That's essential to you.
In the mean time these two fucks impose fines, chain and pad lock religious institutions and small businesses, make up China Virus statistics to suit your destructive needs. You, like the 80 year old babbling, glazed, glistening and Botox filled Nancy Piss-on-you-losi lecture, threaten and shame good and decent people.
You miserable human beings mistakenly think your edicts, orders, and words are absolute and must be obeyed. To that we say, fuck you.
(e) Fails to obey an order by a peace officer, traffic control aide, fire department official, or other official, who has identified himself as such, or is otherwise reasonably identifiable as such, issued under circumstances where it is reasonable to believe that the order is necessary to allow public safety officials to address a situation that threatens the public health, safety, or welfare; or
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A good thing to litigate on. The city would have to show it was "reasonable to believe that the order is necessary to allow public safety officials to address a situation that threatens the public health, safety, or welfare".
Going to be pretty tough to get a judge to buy into that idea.
Also note that the citation claims the notice was delivered by "the city of chicago" and is not specific as to an official that has to deliver the warning.
it is pretty clear the requirements to violate the ordinance were not met on several points.
Some CPD individuals are more worried about keeping their spot than keeping their job. What a dumb dumb!
Don’t worry about a thing Cap Groot will stand behind you all the way.
If you believe that then I’ve got some real estate to sell you.
If Captain Whoever (or Deputy Chief) mistakenly believes that he can successfully hide his assets by transferring them to parties that will help him do so, he should talk with an attorney that will tell him how experienced attorneys who represent plaintiffs will still be able to go after his assets and the assets of those who help him.
Conspiracy by against rights.
Section 241 of Title 18 is the civil rights conspiracy statute. Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree together to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the Unites States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same). Unlike most conspiracy statutes, Section 241 does not require that one of the conspirators commit an overt act prior to the conspiracy becoming a crime.
The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.
TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 241
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;...
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
Willie Wilson would of been a better mayor than GROOT!
All i can say is thank you d/c nieves for writing it yourself and not putting any officers in federal court with you. Eye opener for everybody else. Tickets or actions that violate civil rights Should only be taken by deputy chief or above. Leave us out if it.
Federal lawsuit? How about federal charges and 5am no-knock raid onntne front door of the mayor and police captain, and others involved?
Illinois and CPD violating the United States Constitution
Ralph Papa Thorson Says:
The Iron Fist rulings of Communist Chicago Democrats in Action. What will be next? Better beware, Commiecrat Voters of Chicagoland, Beware of Whom the Bell Tolls, for it Tolls for You,,,, (Next.)
2 Bricks Short of a Load Says:
Willie Wilson should instead institute a Class Action Lawsuit against ALL involved Politicians, and specify that the pay for Punitive Damages, NOT the Taxpayers. Enough of these irresponsible Politicians on both sides.
Boy, oh boy. Talk about "hate" and "prejudice."
Think - when was the last time anyone heard ONE SINGLE WORD, in EITHER direction - good or bad - about our Romanian community?
Like, uh, not even a dog got off the leash, let alone constant noise, filth, endless calls for service, a yard party getting obliterated with AKs.
So go after the Romanians. They are "manageable," as opposed to rolling up a bad corner and finding out how many of your hardhead relatives are slingin tonight, making snapchats waving a Glock as they display their non-functioning electronic ankle bracelets and lsugh their a__ off.
Grootx nicely proves, once again, the old adage "A bully is always a coward."
Now get yo crazy butt in that car and go home your self, like the kid told them...
Very unfortunate that Willie Wilson never really had a chance at mayor. No way he could have been worse for the city than the incompetent LL or the malevolent RE or that oldie but goody the stuttering stooge himself RD.
Soft as puppy shit for doing this! No Balls to stand up to your superiors. Our job is to uphold the constitution! Not be tyrants for the government that sells us out!
Do not rely on “I was just following orders!”. This is already turning into a feeding frenzy for plaintiff lawyers. They will come after you in a heartbeat. Not worth it. Stay far, far away.
This is nothing more than a 19-Paul!
This will get thrown out of court and then the city will get sued under the first Amendment of the U.S. Constitution!
Stupid Mayor running a stupid city!
DuPage County Sheriff James Mendrick -
https://www.facebook.com/james.mendrick.7/posts/2016608998484089
As Sheriff, I feel that my own 1st amendment constitutional right to free speech has been completely trampled on by a governor who has threatened my Offices’ reimbursement and grant funds as a tool to force me not to speak. I just can’t do this any more. I stand with our citizens and businesses of DuPage County who have offered no trouble or no resistance to any rule we put upon them, no matter how strange. In fact they have communally helped to support us during this pandemic with resources and physical help. I will not have a polarized and threatened society when we are currently experiencing nothing but great treatment from our citizens and businesses. We are not experiencing the same problems as Cook County. We can re-open responsibly and with proper care. We’re not just going to open up with no precautions but science suggests a potentially different route. We did all say from the beginning that we would follow science to the end correct? We have now created “super hot spots” for COVID-19 within our most coveted resources. Our primary food sources. (Costco,Jewel, etc). As our local restaurants continue to dissolve into oblivion, the reliance on food will cause more people to flock to the few that are open, causing very high potential virus transfer, food shortages and a potential collapse of our economy. If other businesses were opened responsibly, wouldn’t that take away from congregation at the only few places left open? This is what purely scientific minds have asked me. I’m just having difficulty with what looks like politics pitting everyone against each other and then wanting the police to arrest everyone who disagrees. We are not stormtroopers. We are peacekeepers. All these years, you have told us that you want law enforcement that thinks before arresting, doesn’t violate your rights and treats their citizens with decency. Now you have that and are asking us to regress into what you didn’t want and didn’t deserve. Please let us be the law enforcement you always asked us to be. Non oppressive. We are dealing with a serious rise in crime, new challenges in our correctional facility and a massive upsurge in our courthouse when everything opens back up. We will rise to the challenge. This is not the time to introduce fear into our society by threatening class A misdemeanors,but instead it’s a time to assist our citizens and businesses to get back on their feet. I feel DuPage County is ready to re-open responsibly before everything is gone and I will not victimize lawful residents of DuPage County trying to put food on their children’s table. I’m so proud of our DuPage citizens who have done everything right from the beginning. All I can say is thank you.
At least he didn't forced some lowly POs to write them up...
He's way overpaid anyway and got lots of time to spare...
Have this guy detailed by the lake and carry out Larry's deed!
The department needs automated ANOV writers. This guy's penmanship is the drizzling shits.
There must be a line of law firms waiting to get in to see the Reverend at the church. Denial of civil rights much?
The fact that a boss had to write this ANOV means they’re scared. Blue shirt =19P
Hey 8:42 you swore to defend the Constitution of the United States might be a good idea to read it. If your a CPS graduate you might have someone help you with the bigger words and their meanings. "might be an illegal order"? Your a tool and an ignorant fool.
So guess she has something against Romanians. Could be their race. So is there such a thing as a hate order? You know like a hate crime. Or does she just hate religions. The real question is how and why is the Catholic church so quiet about being shut down. They must be losing millions.
Never heard of anyone getting sued over an anov.
Don't worry Cps no one has your six. Your flying solo, know any good lawyers?
You guys are stupid if you think anything will happen to him, they city pays out to the mutts and they will pay the church. Nothing will happen here, at least he had balls enough to do it himself and not jam a copper. Thanks nieves
RN is a class act. However we are sworn to uphold Constitution. He should of said no then sued.
It is unfortunate that some P/Os have made false assumptions & statements about Deputy Chief Roberto Nieves.
However, since facts are elusive these days let me clarify the factual record.
1. He made it on his own merit.
2. As a P/O he was a worker and worked in a high
Crime District.
3. He is an excellent Boss , a good person, and
always has stood up for his officers.
4. He is down to earth, very approchable, and all
who work or who have worked for him have said
the same thing, "Man what a good guy".
Finally, if star # 70 belongs to Deputy Chief RN I would not be surprised because he is one of the few Bosses with Testicular Fortitude!
Star # 70 should be given a CPD Award for Valor for standing up and taking the hit while protecting subordinates.
His printing is like a third grader.
His printing is like a third grader.
What do you expect from a atheist communist? They love to destroy houses of worship (see USSR post-WWII).
Despicable!
Nievas is a clout baby. Merit merit merit. Might as well put a tattoo on your forehead. Your hdo clout should be ashamed .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All i can say is thank you d/c nieves for writing it yourself and not putting any officers in federal court with you. Eye opener for everybody else. Tickets or actions that violate civil rights Should only be taken by deputy chief or above. Leave us out if it.
5/21/2020 02:25:00 PM
Thank you? It's ok to violate someone's civil rights?
You're as big of an a-hole as he is.
He didn't do it to save you, he did it because he didn't want a PO to refuse and embarrass him.
And if you were there and witnessed his Civil Rights violations, you WILL be in court with him. You witnessed his unlawful actions and did nothing?
nonymous said...
First of all, I don’t know this captain and I don’t know what he is like. We all have been in Chicago long enough to know how District Commander’s and exempt rank are achieved. He made a decision to follow the mayor’s “rules” . He did not ask the subordinates to do it he did it. Give him credit for this. Seeing what’s going on in the city these days I would say “ it’s a rare example of leadership”.
5/21/2020 11:54:00 AM
What is wrong with you people?
Give him credit? A rare example of leadership?
You are a moron. No offense to morons.
Willie Wilson's money would be put to better use if it helped pay for the attorneys to fight this in the courts.
We're wondering what kind of brain-dead imbeciles would either write someone a citation for going to church, towing their cars, or block the church parking lot with a police vehicle? Who the fuck could possibly be that retarded?
Where's that idiot Kwame at???
This is where he should be doing his job and step up for the people , he's another Lisa Madigan that doesn't do shit to help the people but let the politicians trample our rights
Willie Wilson should be spending his money on a class action lawsuit against Groot, The Cpt who wrote the ticket and the City instead of PAYING it!!! Please someone already sue this Wicked Bitch of the Midwest.
i know he's a goofball...
But I still like Willie!
peaking of the First Amendment - heres a tidbit about the 2nd.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/illinois-state-police-issue-emergency-foid-card-ccl-renewal-rules/2253246/
i didnt see this on the blog.
I think all these Democrats whose long term plan is to derail trump's reelection are shooting themselves in the foot. The people they are pissing off now are the sheep who vote Democrat, if the sheep wake up and see exactly how nefarious the people in the democratic party are, things may start to change. This and the fact that Illinois lost more people than any other state, again. I wonder why.
Reminds me of the old...old...old, preprinted complaints:
Acted in such an unreasonable manner as to cause a breach of the peace, to wit; .................................Dint listen to Groot!
Just where is the ACLU? Are they being paid the work from home too? LOL
Captain Kangaroo Says:
Why does the Trump Administration not crack down hard on these Governors and Mayors that are violating U.S. Citizens Constitutional Rights? This should be delt with with severe punishments, yet the Trump DOJ has done nothing to safeguard our Constitutional Rights.
What do you expect from a atheist communist? They love to destroy houses of worship (see USSR post-WWII).
5/22/2020 12:53:00 AM
PRE WW2.
I voted for Willie Wilson. The powers that be laugh at him because he's uneducated, but this man knows business and understands ordinary people, reaches into his pocket continually to help others, and hasn't been feeding off the taxpayer his whole life. He endorsed Lightfoot in the runoff, and she treats him like a joke. As usual, if our politicians hate him, he's probably all right.
Slow down fake tough guy! It is not a civil rights violation. You evidently need a remedial constitutional law cource. Particularly in Fed case law.
By the way do you know RN? Apparently you do not because if you did you would know he wrote it himself not to jepordise any subordinate.
Finally, Mr Clout baby get your facts straight RN made it on his own merit and is a stand up guy. So stop with the nonsense lie. Classic BCR proganda!
And if you were there and witnessed his Civil Rights violations, you WILL be in court with him. You witnessed his unlawful actions and did nothing?
5/22/2020 05:29:00 AM
Oh Lordy! Just what is a PO supposed to do to a DC? Arrest him? Dummy, please. You can go to court and testify WHAT YOU SAW. A police officer can't over rule a commander of police. Gosh, I hope you're retired already. No one with a lick of sense in a blue shirt wants any part of this cluster fuck because it's a lose-lose.
These clearly aren't the black churches that occupy every other corner of the ghettos. I'm sure plenty of them are having services in violation of the fat one's order. But only three "white" churches get tickets? Seems like a certain race is being targeted. So, violating rights to religious freedom, and targeting a specific race? Have these morons ever even seen the constitution? And RN isn't a hero or a stand-up guy for putting his name on the tickets. He's a moron and a clown. A real stand-up guy would've refused to issue the unconstitutional tickets, and spoken out against this racist, illegal idiocy. We can cite or arrest for disorderly conduct for failure to obey an order, but that order has to be legal. This one is not a legal order, so it can't be enforced.
Every day I say a prayer of thank you to God, that I am retired from CPD (20 years now). I could not take 10 minutes of being a policeman in these present times. I honestly pray each day for each member that wears the uniform I was so proud to be a part of. I ask myself each day, why do I still live in this state of communist Illinois, at least I am not in Chicago itself.
Religion was so very important then and now,that the Forefathers put this in the United States Constitution,First Amendment.
years ago CPD had an unit ensuring first amendment rights were not violated
sheeeet , ll don't give no f---
The problem is, no one from the hall had the balls to write the ticket. I think all the aldermen are sworn and have badges, so the could have done it. But, that would mean political suicide. The used the normal whipping boy, CPD, to do their dirty work.
MR Remedial one shall not enforce an unlawful Order!
An Executive Order is law the minute it is signed,thus lawful. Now one can challlange any law made either via the legislature and/ or via Executive order. A court/ judge can rule any law unconstitutional. If ruled unconstitutional and an officer takes enforcement action then he or she can be held liable,but not before that.
Now slow down Joey now you sound like a socialist so stop playing the Race Card.
Instead go back and read the constitution, how laws are made, and take a remedial course in constitutional law.
For your sake I hope you are retired or work inside somewhere. If you work in the field I feel sorry for your SGT and WC for they must kick back your reports often.
Finally, RN is a stand up guy, he protected his men, and was acting within the law. Now whether or not the law (via Excutive Order) is just that's for the courts to decide.
Trump declares houses of worship essential
These cases and fines will not go anywhere.
Loevy and Loevy are getting ready!
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/22/trump-churches-essential-coronavirus-274763
Liquor and cannabis stores pay taxes, unlike churches. Liquor stores sell lottery tickets too. Even in ghettos, booze, weed and lotto are cash cows to politicians. 😑
Anonymous said...
These clearly aren't the black churches that occupy every other corner of the ghettos. I'm sure plenty of them are having services in violation of the fat one's order. But only three "white" churches get tickets? Seems like a certain race is being targeted. So, violating rights to religious freedom, and targeting a specific race? Have these morons ever even seen the constitution? And RN isn't a hero or a stand-up guy for putting his name on the tickets. He's a moron and a clown. A real stand-up guy would've refused to issue the unconstitutional tickets, and spoken out against this racist, illegal idiocy. We can cite or arrest for disorderly conduct for failure to obey an order, but that order has to be legal. This one is not a legal order, so it can't be enforced.
5/22/2020 02:43:00 PM
This proves the mayor is a racist, ordering things like this it was equal across the board they would also be in the black church is doing the same thing but she’s only going after churches that are not in the peoples and folks hoods!
https://news.yahoo.com/video/trump-calls-governors-open-houses-184607471.html
Ya, you're getting sued you fools.
This guy really wrote this? Does he have a TV? Numerous county States Attorneys, other than Cook, are writing amazing briefs to the Illinois Supreme Court saying all this is unconstitutional. Common sense tells you it is. Nothing will happen to him, city will pay if it is even necessary but why get involved. Stupid.
If you can safely shop at Walmart, you can find ways to safely worship. So far it seems government has only been able to determine that Christian churches where worshippers are mostly white are at risk. Non-christian places of worship and places of worship with mostly non-white worshippers seem to be at no risk, if government responses are to be believed.
MR Remedial one shall not enforce an unlawful Order!
An Executive Order is law the minute it is signed,thus lawful. Now one can challlange any law made either via the legislature and/ or via Executive order. A court/ judge can rule any law unconstitutional. If ruled unconstitutional and an officer takes enforcement action then he or she can be held liable,but not before that.
Now slow down Joey now you sound like a socialist so stop playing the Race Card.
Instead go back and read the constitution, how laws are made, and take a remedial course in constitutional law.
For your sake I hope you are retired or work inside somewhere. If you work in the field I feel sorry for your SGT and WC for they must kick back your reports often.
Finally, RN is a stand up guy, he protected his men, and was acting within the law. Now whether or not the law (via Excutive Order) is just that's for the courts to decide.
5/22/2020 06:26:00 PM
I'm the one kicking back your reports, Joey. Your inability to read and understand simple concepts, like those in the Constitution, doesn't make you right. A governor's "order" does not trump civil rights. Selectively enforcing an order, that is unconstitutional on its face, against people of one race, to suppress their religious rights, right to peaceably assemble, etc., is illegal. If the governor says you can't say mean things about him, and then you get arrested for saying mean things about him, that's fine, right? His word is law in your mind, even when it directly contradicts our most basic, guaranteed rights. You aren't as smart as you think you are. Go read more and try to impress us again. The police have no duty to enforce an order that deprives people of their civil rights, no matter who gives the order.
I voted for Willie Wilson. The powers that be laugh at him because he's uneducated, but this man knows business and understands ordinary people, reaches into his pocket continually to help others, and hasn't been feeding off the taxpayer his whole life. He endorsed Lightfoot in the runoff, and she treats him like a joke. As usual, if our politicians hate him, he's probably all right.
5/22/2020 12:21:00 PM
I like him, too.
He is a self-made man. And, he is a humble servant of God.
He is a Doctor of Divinity and a Doctor of Humane Letters.
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