Anonymous Complaints
So the PBPA arbitration decision seems to go against State Law allowing anonymous complaints to be filed. There's some sort of process, but we're told by a few fans that the PBPA plans to sue once it clears the City Council.
In the meantime, is there anything preventing everyone reading to file two or three anonymous complaints against supervisors in their chain of command? Nonsense complaints to clog up the system - residency where it's obvious the supervisor goes home every night, smoking on duty for non-smokers, speeding or running red lights on their day off. Force COPA and IAD to investigate everything and overwhelm the system - Alinsky-type rules by making the City and the Department live with their stupidity.
It would be an amusing way to pass the summer.
In the meantime, is there anything preventing everyone reading to file two or three anonymous complaints against supervisors in their chain of command? Nonsense complaints to clog up the system - residency where it's obvious the supervisor goes home every night, smoking on duty for non-smokers, speeding or running red lights on their day off. Force COPA and IAD to investigate everything and overwhelm the system - Alinsky-type rules by making the City and the Department live with their stupidity.
It would be an amusing way to pass the summer.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
39 Comments:
Anonymous is as anonymous does--if the system is truly working as intended they don't get to pick and choose.
Note that if any of this is done digitally and interested parties are worried about them tracing the IP address back to you, I recommend looking into the Tor network and standalone web browser to obfuscate your identity. Some websites don't like Tor exit nodes and will block that internet traffic, but an anonymous complaint system is not actually anonymous if its operator is forcing users to provide easily traceable data. That in of itself would be a good test of whether the system is configured the way it needs to be.
Tor is far from a perfect solution, but it's still a lot better than the typical web browser's "privacy mode". VPNs are also useful, but they're more for content streaming and downloads than short-form text and news sites.
years ago I worked with one of the greatest police minds of all time, George Kramer of 2372. He opined the exact same thing, Get frivolous CR numbers on each other, for example throwing a coffee cup out of the squad car window etc.
He felt it would be great to jam the system with this nonsense
Maybe leave off the smoking for non-smokers and stick to verifiable BS...
Why not?!? A lot of that shit happens on the fire side. ANY one can file a complaint. You just go down to the Kremlin and jump thru the hoops at IAD... I bet you guys could really hammer the system!! đđ
Hahahaha... Brilliant!
We are in the middle of a civil war.
Rules for radicals and the art of war are must reads.
Good luck.
I like your style. Letâs do it.
I made three anonymous complaints against myself within the last few days. I love all the attention.
Before we lose the same thing to an arbitrator we should negotiate and get something in return for that!
Or complaints about how many full duty officers without desk bids are being kept inside like in 12. Or how a boss allowed two other officers to take the place of a third âfull duty officer so he wouldnât be deployed during the protestâ. You mean like that?
I hope that the PBPA is successful in court but it appears, per state law, that if a collective bargaining contract is in place and it deals with the subject of anonymous complaints then the contract will control the issue. Once the city council approves the contract then the new contract will be in place. The arbitrator apparently understood the new law. Here is the section of the law allowing for this.
(50 ILCS 725/5) (from Ch. 85, par. 2566)
Sec. 5. This Act does not apply to any officer charged with violating any provisions of the Criminal Code of 1961, the Criminal Code of 2012, or any other federal, State, or local criminal law.
(Source: P.A. 97-1150, eff. 1-25-13.)
(50 ILCS 725/6) (from Ch. 85, par. 2567)
Sec. 6. Except as otherwise provided in this Act, the provisions of this Act apply only to the extent there is no collective bargaining agreement currently in effect dealing with the subject matter of this Act.
(Source: P.A. 100-911, eff. 8-17-18.)
Anonymous CppThis said...
Anonymous is as anonymous does--if the system is truly working as intended they don't get to pick and choose.
Note that if any of this is done digitally and interested parties are worried about them tracing the IP address back to you, I recommend looking into the Tor network and standalone web browser to obfuscate your identity. Some websites don't like Tor exit nodes and will block that internet traffic, but an anonymous complaint system is not actually anonymous if its operator is forcing users to provide easily traceable data. That in of itself would be a good test of whether the system is configured the way it needs to be.
Tor is far from a perfect solution, but it's still a lot better than the typical web browser's "privacy mode". VPNs are also useful, but they're more for content streaming and downloads than short-form text and news sites.
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Sounds like a job for a burner phone and public WiFi. Then deep six the phonein the river.
I started this!
After working IAD, when the sworn affidavit started the intake of complaints fell like an elevator!
So letâs fill those files up with plenty of crap!
It would bring COPA and IAD to a stand still........
All while the IAD staff is out on street assignments!
The files just sit and pile up on the desks!
As for COPA if they are like OPS or IPRA they take weeks to catch up!
0/2020 01:32:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Before we lose the same thing to an arbitrator we should negotiate and get something in return for that!
Residency?
Another incentive to study hard for part II.
The gate swings both ways...
Use their lunacy against them...
I once knew of an officer who received a CR number for wearing a frilly white T shirt under his uniform shirt.
I was exonerated.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Exactly!!! I would expect the first day that every PO would make anonymous complaints on every supervisor that mistreated them and at the end of the day there would be 30,000 complaints to investigate (10,000 POs times at least 3 complaints) and the system would collapse.
PBPA is useless. We take shit contracts and then add a me too clause. We let FOP do the real negotiating for us on salary. We should have closed shop when out officers stole all the money.
Always the negativity...
How about anonymous âattaboysâ?
Why not??
I read somewhere that The COPA was looking at over 90 uniform infractions they observed (on BWC) during the last CityHall tolerated and encouraged peaceful protest loot-riot, in addition to one bird flip, one name calling incident, and no arrests.
The plan: Load up and backlog The COPA with nonsense, itâs very likely theyâll be running out of stuff to do as time goes on.
Itâs like Larri sent the arbiter a list of her demands beforehand, maybe even negotiated arbitration in secret meetings.
Sure would like to get a look at Larriâs emails.
Couple burner phones, purchased for cash by a couple winos,
Or weed heads......with cash given to them by another weed head,
Untraceable back to you.....
Pass them around as needed......
CAMERAS everywhere, so donât buy them yourself, no debit or credit card usage...
Make them bastards work.....give them what they have asked for.....
The one part of this entire matter is something the public does not understand and what the media and defense attorney use to their advantage; that is the number of complaints filed and the number with no disciplinary action taken. So, a police officer can have a few dozen complaints on his record and it is used against him to make him/her look bad. I am retired and have been for almost 17 years. I was involved in a civil case and the attorney brought up my CPD complaint history. Although no sustained cases, he tried to make me out as a bad person who was an out of control cop. Only in this profession of policing can you be a 2nd class citizen forever.
I really do not know the details of the complaint against the new President of the FOP or why he was stripped of his police authority, but it looks like he filed a complaint against Johnson for violating the law, so the department went after him. That alone would stop any police officer from filing any complaints against an exempt. I tried this years ago and IAD would not accept the complaint.
Anonymous complaints and right to strike for residency.
Iâm retired and think I can help you out with that endeavor. I could do two or three a day, but need my weekends off. Kindly provide more details and when to start.
"Nonsense complaints to clog up the system - residency where it's obvious the supervisor goes home every night, smoking on duty for non-smokers, speeding or running red lights on their day off. Force COPA and IAD to investigate everything and overwhelm the system"
Most cleverness indeed! A cunning mind at hardest work! ~ Charlie Chan
P.S.
GO FOR IT!
Time for all officers of the CPD to protest this arbitrary treatment by the Administration. Therefore all officers are encouraged to grow their beards as an outward sign of solidarity and also as a rebuke of this anonymous complaint decision. Let the Department sort thru these anonymous complaints alleging âunknown uniformed officer with facial hairâ..... itâs time to unite and show some unity against Groot and the leftists......
Do not use Tor. Yeah, you will be anonymous when you go somewhere, but you will NOT be anonymous when you download it to use it for the first time. That will present itself without any type of process. Is this user getting ready to sell drugs or traffic in child porn whatever authority that tracks this stuff will ask. Youâll go on a list at the very least according to the computer geek magazines. Use a VPN. Better yet have a civilian friend use a VPN.
Watch and see how busy the investigate will be now, all the false complaints and if theyâre proven to be false can we go after them for what they did for lying on us?
This is probably the worst decision possible for the department. Here is what is going to occur. A supervisor observes a subordinate commit a infraction. The supervisor administers a disciplinary procedure. The subordinate then gets mad and makes a series of anonymous complaints. This subordinate gets a friend or two and they make anonymous complaints. The supervisor get bogged down. Now, if this occurs to several supervisors the system comes to halt. Now lets talk about what is going to occur to a patrol person. This officer works tact or is a aggressive beat officers. This officer makes an arrest of a gang banger. The gang banger than gets his gang banger partners to make anonymous complaints. The officer now has to answer every anonymous complaints. He too becomes bogged down. The system falls apart. This is a example of redefining the police.
The Keesing Bandit said...
I once knew of an officer who received a CR number for wearing a frilly white T shirt under his uniform shirt.
I was exonerated.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
6/30/2020 07:47:00 AM
I once knew an officer who received a complaint for his "bushy mustache". It was found to be in compliance.
No kees for you!
Can't wait to retire from this shithole called CPD!!!!!!
This is probably the worst decision possible for the department. Here is what is going to occur. A supervisor observes a subordinate commit a infraction. The supervisor administers a disciplinary procedure. The subordinate then gets mad and makes a series of anonymous complaints. This subordinate gets a friend or two and they make anonymous complaints. The supervisor get bogged down. Now, if this occurs to several supervisors the system comes to halt. Now lets talk about what is going to occur to a patrol person. This officer works tact or is a aggressive beat officers. This officer makes an arrest of a gang banger. The gang banger than gets his gang banger partners to make anonymous complaints. The officer now has to answer every anonymous complaints. He too becomes bogged down. The system falls apart. This is a example of redefining the police.
You are stupid
Worried about tracing back to your IP address:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Anonymous%20ip&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=anonymous%20ip&sc=5-12&sk=&cvid=B4ED9F6D181C43B990FFFB382945C790
So shouldnât someone file a complaint(s) against dynamite David for calling citizens âevil bastardsâ? Shouldnât COPA investigate his racist comments aimed at the black, underserved community?
Here he is, the police superintendent and heâs putting his boot right on their necks.
Hey Lightfoot, WTF, you useless piece of crap. Get a grip on your main man and force him to apologize.
Sign me G.
Am I crazy? Didn't we get rid of this because the system was flooded with bullshit and ridiculous anonymous complaints? That is why the affidavit was created. Now we are going back there again?
Does this go both ways? Can I send in anonymous complimentary letters for CPD that will go on each cops official record?
Bushy mustaches are a good thing.....In the right places.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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