Friday, July 31, 2020

About Those Gun Numbers

  • Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D) told CNN’s State of the Union, “Our gun problem is related to the fact that we have too many illegal guns on our streets, 60 percent of which come from states outside of Illinois.”
However, for the last data available:
  • The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ (ATF) 2018 figures show Illinois as the top source state for guns recovered in the state of Illinois.

    The ATF numbers show 5,337 guns recovered in Illinois were traced and sourced as coming from Illinois.

    Fourteen other states accounted for a total of 4,375 guns recovered in Illinois and traced to their source. Those states were Indiana, Missouri, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Iowa, Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, and Michigan.
So Groot does what all Groot's do when confronted with facts:
  • She lies
Of course, lying is second nature to politicians.

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56 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now we can add math to the list of things she sucks at.
It's a long list.

7/31/2020 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Truth is to many crooks let out of jail with little to no punishment.

7/31/2020 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SSC, why no story on the PPO from 011 who wrote the op-ed in the Washington Post? Guy also wrote a 15 page paper to the commander telling him how to do his job. Guy has 12 months on the job and calls 10-1s like they are going out of style for foot chases with bust outs.

7/31/2020 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumb democrats. Did they forget about their usual blaming of Chuck's Dolton Gun Shop for all those "crime" guns?

7/31/2020 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So let's discuss these guns that are coming in from other states. If they are available for illegal purchase to Chicagoans, then they are also available for locals to purchase. So if that is so, how come all these areas responsible for the illegal guns are not suffering any where close to the levels of violence experienced in Chicago? Mayne it's really not the fault of the guns which are inanimate objects. Maybe the problem is the people (or folks) using them. Maybe instead of trying to create more laws that the local States Attorney or judges will not enforce anyway, let's get a real States Attorney and judges that will actually prosecute and convict using the laws already on the books...

7/31/2020 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous "Kass Column" (below) said...

O/T

The SCC subject directly below this is entitled "Kass Column". I clicked on the link. It wanted me to subscribe to read the Kass column. With all due respect to Mr. Kass, I will not even pay a penny to either the Fibune or the Slum-Times. The SCC post was not taking comments. I assume that SCC is well aware that those treacherous rags actually expect a paid subscription to read their often biased anti-CPD articles. My decision is based on principle, truth, justice and the American way.

Ironically, years ago, I had subscriptions to both newspapers. Today: No way! With the possible exception of columnist Kass, I regard the old Soviet newspaper Pravda with more credibility than these two propaganda wings of the most politically corrupt major city in the nation.

7/31/2020 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey mayor, guns don’t kill people. People kill other people. Stop focusing on the tool (gun) and start focusing on the black on black crime problem that is and has been out of control for 60 years in this city. Let’s start being honest about criminality in this city. The first step in solving a problem is identifying the problem.

7/31/2020 05:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And few guns used in crimes are recovered

7/31/2020 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A good portion of guns from other states are brought here for gun turn ins. The department doesn’t separate these guns from crime guns they are all counted together for effect, isn’t that right Mr Branch.

7/31/2020 05:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Nazi’s started the Big Lie theory and the Democrats have perfected it. Tell the lie often enough and it be me the fact. Look at BLM movement for most recent example. Democrats never let fact get in the way of a good lie to secure their objective. The CPS educated Democratic voters hardly have the intellectual skills to ferret out the truth they just never d and parrot the Big Lie like the voting zombies they are. Those few Democratic voters that went on to higher education levels were indoctrinated by a liberal communist professor at what passes as our university level these days.

7/31/2020 05:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m sorry SCC I might have to agree with Groot on this one about out of state guns.
Every Glock I recovered on the job, was clearly marked Smyrna, Georgia.
That would be outside Illinois.

7/31/2020 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous kass/main postings said...

what a joke and both daily's are guilty of it. their whole rag is opinion. not news. when a fucking criminal shoots at police and then gets shot in return fire then becomes a victim. all is lost.

pay? not me. i learned to live without it. fibune will not allow a peek? get it off the fucking internet.

7/31/2020 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes blame chucks. those guns were bought by ghosts i guess. i recall the traveling salesman from milwaukee who got probation from crimesha. where was us attorney louse? step up asshole.

those blue cards from ducky and turbin really needs to be done away with.

any chance turbin gets knocked out by wilson? who is the republican?

7/31/2020 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more prison time for guns that commit crimes.

7/31/2020 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ohhh SCC, you can’t blame Groot, she has dicklexia! Everything anyone tried to teach little Larry when he/she was growing up he/she saw backwards. To her wrong is right, bad is good, she is he, 60/40 is 40/60 and on and on. It’s the only logical reason the little dic-hator has such a terrible time understanding facts, on top of having one of the worst Napoleon complexes learned minds have every seen.

7/31/2020 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Groot is just parroting the number dumBHO spit out previously.

7/31/2020 07:48:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Facts to Democrats are like Kryptonite to Superman.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

7/31/2020 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you want to read any of these stories in either paper that is behind a pay wall use " New private window" on a Mac or use "private browsing on a PC.

You can go to the story on the papers page, when you are asked to sign in copy the URL enter it in Google the after the search window appears click on the story and enjoy!! This works on most paywall papers, I use it all the time.

7/31/2020 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never met a gun that just began shooting all on its own for no reason.

7/31/2020 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never let the facts get in the way of your propaganda narrative.

7/31/2020 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 1 hour ago F/1/30 camped in front of Dart's home. The "protester" wants CCJ defunded and someone named Nick to be freed. So far only one protester no media. Stay tuned for updates.

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7/31/2020 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come and take it.

7/31/2020 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So we Just need a gun quarantine.

7/31/2020 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talk about out of touch, too lazy to verify the hand-fed, out of date data she gets from her nitwit staff. Then leaves town on the weekends to give CNN interviews while the city in burning.

Apparently the Lyin Larri LightFührer plagiarized a part of a speech that obama gave in 2015 about “illegal guns coming into his hometown” which was from his appearance at the 122nd annual International Association of Chiefs of Police on June 27, 2015. Flashback to the 126th IACP conference when President Trump ask’s “Where’s Eddie Johnson?”, 3-1/2 years his strategies led to the most shootings and murders in Chicago history, more than the last 3 superintendents combined.

The exact same figure his highness used in 2015 was the same Larri reiterated early week was coming from his 2014 GunTrace Report, an anti-gun agenda driven by a CPD and UC-Crime Lab collaboration.

Citing disputed 6 yr old data, Larri about the biggest dope ever elected. We can see why she never made it in the lawyering business and at that was for a dismal 4 or 5 years.
Larri’s boner for Indiana.
If guns are hoping over the border, is Larri suggesting some border control measure? Larri doesn’t seem to mind that the Jobs are leaving across the same border.

Remember when the penalty for UUW was meaningful...by meaningful it was 3.0 hrs on the books in Felony Gun Court.
(What’s a felony)
CPD - Cook County Gun-O-Friend of the Court Dashboard...where’s it at?

7/31/2020 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It does not matter where the guns come from when you have a States Attorney who is soft on crime in an already out of control city. This is what the GANG OWNED - MAYOR, COUNTY BOARD PRESIDENT AND STATES ATTORNEY ARE EXPECTED TO DO! Allow more murder, mayhem and chaos! Doing a great job ASSHOLES!

7/31/2020 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT -
It's great to see Portland PD managing to keep their sense of humor. Check out pic #3 lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/PortlandPolice/status/1269751133523722241

BOOT GROOT!

7/31/2020 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The mutts killing each other in “communities of color” don’t care where the guns come from. If they started a “buy local” effort for their illegal firearms purchase and use, would they kill less?

What a joke Lightfoot is. Terrified to blame the root cause.

How about trying a nuclear family and eliminating welfare fraud, and maybe sprinkle in some self accountability? Then watch these communities miraculously turn around.

7/31/2020 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Our Elected Officials problem is related to the fact that we have too many Soros Bucks on our streets, 60 percent of which come from states outside of Illinois."


1) Police catch criminals, 2) Courts Prosecute criminals, 3) Prison holds criminals.

Foreigner bought step #2 to undermine America

7/31/2020 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to disagree but lying is NOT second nature to politicians!

IT IS THE FIRST THING THAT THEY DO.

Politicians would not be able to say any truth.

7/31/2020 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another four reasons why the gun teams should NOT have been disbanded........

This Marxist mayor and Stupidintendant are incapable of doing their jobs........

I pray for the officers, their families and I pray for this city.
Dyla Hata

7/31/2020 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C’mon SCC......what’s she gonna say except that other states are causing our problems?
Would she admit that 80% of the crime in Chicago is driven by less than 15% of the population?
That the unfortunate statistics are NOT the result of poverty and lack of opportunity, but perhaps
just the opposite? That the money-driven ends of the gang/drug cartels reap millions of
dollars in untaxed funds flowing freely through the “poor” neighborhoods?
If our fair city is pretty much 1/3 white, 1/3 hispanic, 1/3 black, how come the rest of the city is just
not doing their fair share of crime? Shooting? Killing?
That the said 15% of the population is being ALLOWED to terrorize this city due to the lack of
prosecution of crimes? Or perhaps due to being out of jail on probation or parole when they
shouldn’t be? The elected “leaders” of this city are playing MONOPOLY with peoples lives
every day.......using those Get Out Of Jail FREE cards!

7/31/2020 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These people the unbelievabler heretics lie all the time. What would make them not, their father the devil ?

7/31/2020 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Kass Column and Paywall: This website carries John's columns, here's the one:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0720/kass073120.php3

7/31/2020 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with the Hammond shooting the other night. This Indiana gun was just minding its own business, trying to move to Illinois to make a new life for its self. and Boom!, it suddenly goes off.... Wasn't it's fault, someone just got in the way.

7/31/2020 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nonymous said...
SSC, why no story on the PPO from 011 who wrote the op-ed in the Washington Post? Guy also wrote a 15 page paper to the commander telling him how to do his job. Guy has 12 months on the job and calls 10-1s like they are going out of style for foot chases with bust outs.
7/31/2020 12:20:00 AM
________________________________

Where are his immediate Supervisors?

The new wave of recruits that know more than you. As far as criticizing his Commander with a 15 page shame paper, well if the Commander doesn't square this PPO quickly, he should be removed. Writing a Op-Ed to the Wash. Post tells me that the Post is reaching for straws.

This PPO would make a great candidate for the Police Community garbage collection program in the hood. Sounds like he's just the right person to build trust in the Community. Otherwise, let the goof get jammed with doing dumb stuff.

7/31/2020 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lightfoot needs to shut up!!!

7/31/2020 02:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O/T
Ditto

7/31/2020 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The SCC subject directly below this is entitled "Kass Column". I clicked on the link. It wanted me to subscribe to read the Kass column. With all due respect to Mr. Kass, I will not even pay a penny to either the Fibune or the Slum-Times."

= = = = =

Google "kass soros" and look at the various results. You'll probably see one for Twitter that will have something.

7/31/2020 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
SSC, why no story on the PPO from 011 who wrote the op-ed in the Washington Post? Guy also wrote a 15 page paper to the commander telling him how to do his job. Guy has 12 months on the job and calls 10-1s like they are going out of style for foot chases with bust outs.

7/31/2020 12:20:00 AM
First of all it’s SCC, second of all Francis you need to slow down how much time do you have on job may we ask? Why don’t you man up or woman up or whatever you want to be called and talk to the cop about it how about that maybe steer him straight if there’s a problem instead of calling it on a public blog? Train the new kids, that would be a concept with me, instead of coming on the blog and crying about it like a little girl!

7/31/2020 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She could be talking about guns recovered in the city versus guns recovered in the state.

7/31/2020 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Kass Column" (below) said...
O/T

The SCC subject directly below this is entitled "Kass Column". I clicked on the link. It wanted me to subscribe to read the Kass column. With all due respect to Mr. Kass, I will not even pay a penny to either the Fibune or the Slum-Times. The SCC post was not taking comments. I assume that SCC is well aware that those treacherous rags actually expect a paid subscription to read their often biased anti-CPD articles. My decision is based on principle, truth, justice and the American way.

Ironically, years ago, I had subscriptions to both newspapers. Today: No way! With the possible exception of columnist Kass, I regard the old Soviet newspaper Pravda with more credibility than these two propaganda wings of the most politically corrupt major city in the nation.

7/31/2020 12:50:00 AM

There has got to bne a way to read that page, but then again the news they have is slanted, no matter what it is. Plenty of non-slanted sources.... CBW is great and I would pay to read that.

7/31/2020 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only question is why when they are caught with an illegal gun, why are felons allowed to walk? Should be automatic no bond. Why not automatic 10 year sentence for using weapon during crime with no time off.

7/31/2020 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city just needs to auction them off every 90 days. Make some money off of them since the scumbags are going to get their hands on guns anyway. Keep the money in the city.

7/31/2020 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reply to; Anonymous Anonymous said...
So let's discuss these guns that are coming in from other states. If they are available for illegal purchase to Chicagoans, then they are also available for locals to purchase. So if that is so, how come all these areas responsible for the illegal guns are not suffering any where close to the levels of violence experienced in Chicago? Mayne it's really not the fault of the guns which are inanimate objects. Maybe the problem is the people (or folks) using them. Maybe instead of trying to create more laws that the local States Attorney or judges will not enforce anyway, let's get a real States Attorney and judges that will actually prosecute and convict using the laws already on the books...

7/31/2020 12:30:00 AM
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That’s like blaming a car for killing babies when their dumbass parent forgets to take them out and lets them cook or freeze. You just can’t teach these half wit, inbred politicians And libbies anything that is related to common sense. It just ain’t gonna happen.

7/31/2020 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that a Weapon was “ Traced” by BATFE does NOT mean that the Weapon was EVER used ( or possessed) by a Criminal in the commission of a Crime. A “ Trace” can mean one of two seperate things. First, an attempt to follow chain of possession from manufacturer ( e.g., Smith & Wesson) to Distributor to FFL Dealer to Buyer. A “ Trace” can also mean an inquiry, through various Fed databases ( e.g., FBI NCIC), to see if the weapon is reported stolen or missing ( missing as in taken from an unmarked vehicle while the Detective to whom the vehicle was assigned was enjoying the intimate attention of his “ Sidepiece”). The second form of trace— to see if the weapon is stolen— may be routinely done by Customs and Border Protection on the personal 30-06 Bambi Blaster of a CPD who is crossing the border into Canada on a hunting trip. It has NO connection to anything criminal and should not be regarded as such. Comments on this matter from BATFE and CBP blog readers welcomed

7/31/2020 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A good portion of guns from other states are brought here for gun turn ins. The department doesn’t separate these guns from crime guns they are all counted together for effect, isn’t that right Mr Branch.

7/31/2020 05:40:00 AM


Gun turn in and gun buy backs are racist. Every time the subject is brought up I tell the locals and I do so to where they agree and they are pissed. I tell them why are there gun buy backs in the white areas; white got guns too. Boy they get pissed.

Groot next time u plan to have a racist gun buy back— have it by Ohare or by the white populated area of town

7/31/2020 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Cop Fan said...

One can read most paywall newspapers, by clearing web browser cookies.

If Lori was London's mayor, she'd be blaming knives, not the person using it.

7/31/2020 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Totally OT seven inning double headers, 60 game season, lots of miner leaguers filling for Kung Flu major leavers and they don't want asterisks on any records. Do they really think we are that stupid. Boycott the fake season. Well I warned you all it was way off topic, but thanks for letting me rant. Kung Flu, BLM kneeling and now Fake MLB season and probably NFL and NBA. So far golf only real test of sport. If you believe golf is a sport.

7/31/2020 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:11 AM
Smyrna Ga
Yeah, I guess Ga is a right to work state and Jolly Old Glock
don't have to pay Austrian wages & benefits. The lederhosen
uniforms and the beer gardens can get quite expensive.

7/31/2020 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey here's an idea Mayor Leadhead, How bout quarantine the bad guys, Instead of catch and release. It's called JAIL, MORON.

7/31/2020 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the criminals using them are from CHICAGO. Many of whom are regulars in Cook County's “Catch & Release” program.


rb

7/31/2020 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn’t matter if the guns are coming from Indiana or India - it’s not the GUNS that are doing the murders, it’s criminals.

Besides, if the cartels can smuggle in tons of heroin because there is demand for it, don’t you think they could smuggle in a few million guns, even if Lightfoot and Biden make them illegal?

The problem with passing laws against owning guns is that those laws don’t affect criminals - it’s already illegal for most of them to possess firearms, but criminals don’t obey laws...

It’s what makes them criminals.

7/31/2020 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That groot is nothing but a lying dog faced pony soldier .
VP Joe wouldn’t sniff groot if you paid him .
VP Joe will select a female as his VP so he has someone to sniff .

7/31/2020 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Befuddled by the low Friday night numbers thus far.
Could it be that the Fed's in town?
This definitely won't fit the assclown mayor's narrative.

7/31/2020 11:33:00 PM  
Blogger katikati said...

Lying isn't second nature to politicians in Chicago, it's instinct. First nature, inbred instinct.

8/01/2020 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to start telling truth. First, Guns can not be Illegal...unless they are stolen, in which case they are just called stolen guns. Second, recovered? This is a confiscation, not a recovery! Lets admit that words have real world definitions.

We all have a Inherent RIGHT to arms. ALL of them. Government is specifically prohibited from infringing or even abridging this right. This is so unambiguously written into the Highest Law of the Land!! Admit it. No State shall MAKE or ENFORCE Any Law that Abridges...

We fix things by admitting we are not adhering to our Declaration or Constitution and then actually start doing so!!

8/01/2020 03:43:00 AM  

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