Private Security?
- A Chicago alderman and a coalition of community leaders announced Thursday that a private security firm had been hired as additional "eyes and ears" to assist police in curbing violence over the Fourth of July holiday weekend.
Ald. Stephanie Coleman, of the 16th Ward, said at a news conference that Kates Security had been hired to help monitor the Englewood area, with 50 armed and unarmed officers scheduled to be on the streets of the South Side neighborhood beginning Friday at 9 a.m.
Anyone know their Use of Force Rules? Do they carry liability insurance? What about if they lump on a citizen?
Our comment section lit up with reports of these "security guards" doing foot chases all over the 007 District Friday night.
Our comment section lit up with reports of these "security guards" doing foot chases all over the 007 District Friday night.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
91 Comments:
Don’t lock them up for the security guards. Give them a report and have them go get an arrest warrant. They have no legal authorization to stop anyone on the public way nor do they have any arrest powers. Definitely not certified.
Waguespack’s car was stolen
They had these guys in the ABLA homes in 012 they are fucking brutal the worst thing that happened was When they learned what a simple assault is and wanted everyone locked up for talking shit to them.
Are they licensed like CPD?
Isn't t hiring security guards a violation of our contract? FOP wake the fuck up!!! If the city can't pay. Us WTF!
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"...50 armed and unarmed officers..."
I hope they know that "Black Lives Matter"!
rb
It didn't work. Is it too late to get our money back?
Once upon a time, there were contract guards in the booths of the projects. Whenever they wanted to, these poor victims of white privilege would tell the contract guards that unless they surrendered their firearms, they be shot or the booth would be set on fire and they'd be dead and still lose their revolvers. Oh, if we could just get one of these college educated suburban females to actually learn something OTHER than what their treasonous marxist professors teach them. Maybe they'd get out of coppers faces, scolding them for being oppressors.
Was does Out of Town Brown have to say? Indeed, does Out of Town Brown have anything to say on this, or does the City just go ahead and hire Armed Private Security without any input whatsoever from the Superintendent?
What? This is USA, not some banana Republic. Is this just another lame ploy to get low-pay security to use as bargaining chip come contract time? While helping out friends & family.
This will lead to a no-go zone and feudal gang lords.
I can say this about Kate's security when I worked 003 and they patrolled "Chi-raq" area of 63-66 king dr, they were ALWAYS helpful to me as the police. VERY HELPFUL AND ACCOMMODATING! So to the guys n girls, thank you from this white female officer
What about "league leading" Fillmore with over fifty murders? The Fort Fellatio dildoes still call it "Harrison". If not Fillmo', call it what it is-- Garfield Park.
Do. NOT INTERVENE.
When these "private security guards"
get tangled-up in communerty affairs.
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
THEY. ALL. HATE. YOU!
Protect yourselves from THEM alwasys!
Apparently they weren’t in the area of 60th $ Carpenter where 8 People were shot
Will they be as professional and qualified as Monterrey Security?
You know, the folks that were kicked out of Minnesota and banned by an NFL Team?
and then call us to clean up their mess...don't do it
Forget this idiocy. Just call in the National Guard - about 10,000 troops ought to do it. Deploy all over the City. Full auto. Orders to shoot to kill anyone engaging in violent criminal acts, orders to arrest anyone else engaging in damage to property, drug sales, shoplifting, etc.
Where ever the gang HQ's are - declare those assholes domestic terrorist organizations, and go get them all. Charge them ALL under RICO. Let the Feds prosecute them because you sure as hell can't trust Crimesha.
The security vehicles have green LED light bars - which some citizens will mistake for blue. Now there will be a nightly light show in Englewood.
Retired .38 spl +P
More waisting of tax payers money.
The mayor, city council, politicians, community leaders, looney left intellectual elites, et al. keep barfing up the same old pap. “We can’t police our way out of this.”
Sure you can. It worked for years until you dummies started playing the race card and hatched the false narrative that all police are brutal racists because you did not want to offend the black community by pointing out the problems in that community because you were afraid if you did you would lose their votes and lose power over them. Now you have hitched your wagon to the Black Lives Matter movement and let them destroy public & private property & businesses and disrupting normal citizen’s (of all races) lives. Black Lives Matter has done nothing for the black community (the police have though) it is also connected to the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, the Black Alliance For Just Immigration and Thousand Currents Organization. These are Marxist/Lenin Communist groups who get hundreds of millions of tax exempt dollars from donors like George Soros through the Tides Foundation and major corporations. Is the money spent on the black community? No it is not. These groups want to transform gender and sexual identities, dismantle the nuclear family, have open borders, defund and eliminate the police and radically change the government of the United States. Stop the bashing of the police, and stop the bleeding in the black community by backing the police in enforcing the laws and prosecuting these killers. You have let this go on for years now, it is disgraceful.
We didn’t see them more than once the whole tour. Definitely weren’t involved in foot pursuits.
Let’s get our shit together. If it isn’t true or it’s 3rd party “knowledge”.. don’t spread it boys and girls.
Foot Chases? Who would make the arrest if these idiots caught and tackled someone? TRR's? I was under the impression they were there for show and to call in suspicious activity..Perhaps Groot was doing this as a test of some sort?
Let them have at it. Groot and Dynamite Dave will have some splainin’ to do. The yutes and communerty don’t like authority so they’ll be complaint about the renta cops. I’m just curious if COPA will be investigating them when shit goes sideways.
Get em boys... the police will get wrapped up quicker than a burrito and fired if they stop an honest citizen (D)... and yes the D stands for demoKrat
Hope that security chases them clear past the Shangani forest preserve
Why does the article refer to the security guards as "armed and unarmed officers"? Is it so Groot can claim she has that many more officers on street? Remember Groot, they're NOT cops.
Don't worry.
When Kates Security screws up, the Community will blame the Chicago Police Department instead.
Ald. Stephanie Coleman, of the 16th Ward, said at a news conference that Kates Security had been hired to help monitor the Englewood area, with 50 armed and unarmed officers scheduled to be on the streets of the South Side neighborhood beginning Friday at 9 a.m.
Rumor of the day is Kates Security is rated 4 and one half stars on Angies List for security issues and crime busting...
Where are the kickbacks going?
Oh, media, where are you?
Are these Vallas’ cold case guys. Bounty hunters.
Who would want to do this?
However I can see this happening in affluent wards. Beverly and Dearborn Park had private security patrols. Don’t know they were effective but it can be a line of defense until real police can get there.
Larry neglect of her community is showing. Her untouchables from BACP and contact tracers should be lecturing party goers about safe distancing and mask use.? Then “shutting it down”
Larry has alienated everyone that could help. Where are the Revs?
Calling BULLSHIT. Calling BULLSHIT.
Second Big-Money Project exposed.
Groot said "We have no money in the budget."
Brownie got his ticket stamped.
So did Beck.
And those are not the Big-Money Projects!
She's a liar.
She's a little run-a-way.
Hey alderman 4 dead in the Wood so far with a whole day to go. How's that private security working out for you. Great marksmanship 5 shot and 4 room temperature. Maybe you should be hiring your gangbangers out to other neighborhoods to improve the overall KIA ratio. Money better spent on security cameras and drones in all of your ward since your residents will not help the CPD.
Why Englewood? Sounds racists if you ask me to put more security there.
How long before CPD has to arrest one of them?
Let’s say within the month of July 2020
“HIRED” Who is paying for this?
Welcome to the party pal.
Then...
Kees me you fool!!!!
Goody!
More gang bangers, dealers and recent parolees back on the street.
Nothing but another taxpayer funded scam.
What a scam, you handcuff the police and then pay your friends to be security, who cant and wont do shit anyway.
Who’s paying for this shit
Used to see those jokers while working special,,,,,,,they just do nothing or stir up trouble then call for the police,,,,screw them
Big question for me is, who is Kates hooked up with politically? (Psst! follow the money)
Well they did a hell of a job in Englewood on the 4th. 12 people shot and 6 of them died. One of the people murdered was a 14 year old kid and an 11 year old kid got shot with him.
Seriously? Why would any real cop care? Let the private security take all the risks!
They just observe.
The police have to do the paper.
I certainly hope this doesn't offend anybody. Let them do the dirty work, wave and move on.
Who owns Kate’s?
Who is on their management team?
Will they get tax payer money?
Just sit back boys and girls and watch the circus as it unfolds. As we used to say in the 80's," You Call, we Haul, that's All"
50 more eyes and ears?
on whose side will they be on?
good times to be a a drug peddling gangbanger.
Didn’t help.
Well that didn’t work out so well
I'm glad I retired when I did.
Follow the Money trail for Kickbacks.
Im grateful someone’s chasing because I guarantee you my partner and I ain’t. Ohh and we’re not attending your Pro-policing benefit.
There has to be POD footage of those chases. Also, I heard that the alderman has a direct favoritism to that security company. How much did the spend and what was paid for people who were supposed to just “stand” out there.
“ Ald. Stephanie Coleman, of the 16th Ward, said at a news conference that Kates Security had been hired to help monitor the Englewood area...”
Finally.
Englewoods is finally getting crime monitors. They’ve been asking for such a strategy since 1957.
The freshman hawk eye governor of Englewoods is sharp as a tack to recognize the need for monitors.
WGN: “Kates Security. Company CEO Bill Kates said they won’t intervene or try to arrest anyone, but they’re standing at the ready to report threatening activity to Chicago police.“
I see you! Stop that! I’m calling the police! This guy thinks like a superintendent - hire him
Here’s what Larri and Hash Brown had to say Thursday Jun 02...
“I ask you, I beg you and I pray that you will find your humanity — that you will think about the sanctity of life,” she said.
– When all else fails...pray. Larri will be playing rabid possum on Monday if the media gets too inquisitive.
• CPD Supt. David Brown said they need everyone’s help to make the strategy work.
– i.e. cancelled days off for 1200
• Police will be using a so-called “violence reduction dashboard” which they say will help with everything from preventing the next shooting to providing trauma informed victim services.
– Worked Like A Charm.
• For the first time ever, the city has committed millions of dollars to violence intervention and street outreach as part of its budget. The mayor hopes this weekend it will pay off.
– Tax dollars at work and the courts and jail are still Closed.
Are the private security guards shooting people in Englewood. Seven dead and one mass shooting in one incident. Looks like you hired the wrong firm Aldermen. The Wood boys going after the Austin Crown.
Of course they all have legal CCW permits? Legal guns? Anyone bother to check? What could go wrong? Oh yea, the mass shooting not their fault the CPD was supposed to be watching that area. We were hired to guard the aldermens property and nothing else.
The Alderthief said on the news that the “security” wouldn’t be arresting anyone.... said they’re only there to “observe”
not her outlet for the Ghetto Lottery. Since a member of the city council hired them the city will be liable for their misdeeds. Better get a bigger checkbook Groot.
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Lots of them look up to the police. In general, they will help you if they can. It's tough being on the bottom of the law enforcement barrel. Talk about not getting any respect. Treat them with respect and they will try to help you. Just my experience.
CNN is reporting none of this. Coronavirus seems to have their attention diverted for some reason. The status of the nation's vacation spots is getting top billing.
Noticed the Sheriff Police at the shooting during the 4 th
The Suburbs need the Sheriff Police. Not Chicago
The County is giving police protection and paying overtime for these County Officers
Murder free 04th of July in Englewood? In this climate?
Is that the best Ald. Coleman can do? Sadly, I guess so. Unarmed security is pointless. ☹️👮
KATES SECURITY
A LITTLE BACKGROUND
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/10/2/20895843/jury-awards-millions-mother-man-fatally-shot-by-security-guard-cha-complex
These are the same clown security agents who work in the CHA public housing project, Row Houses in 018,..... als Altgeld Gardens in 005, ABLA/Brooks, they work the Homes just south of 35th and west of cottage, there are about 15 locations scattered around the public housing developments. .........
They are infamous in 018 and 012 and 005 for calling 911 and reporting shots fired .......or man with a gun calls .........when they were in over their heads with the residents. I remember having the zone do call backs to the 911 caller and the goof security Guard answered the phone in front of us, after denying that they made the call. For a while they used ..."drop phones" to make bullshit calls cause they were scared, .....but would forget to shut them off before we arrived.
After that day we requested the zone do the same on subsequent anonymous 911 calls and we were informed that the 911 calls were initiated from their dispatcher. The Kate's security guards were having the dispatchers make 911 calls for them from their off site office.
Honestly it was like dealing with children. Children who would act tough because one or two in the group of six or seven were armed with a firearm and the other five or six were armed with big mouths, bigger attitudes and radios.
The residents,....... especially by the United center and the row houses .......would complain that these guards were abusing their authority All The Time.
They would make demands of an arrest for assault constantly upon the residents, cause they were cursed at our were told they were gonna get their ass kicked due to their own stupidity and their bullshit threats of arrest.
Found out a couple were fired from CPD and other local departments........for whatever......they usually started out loud but as soon as they were recognized....... they adio'sed.
They are defiantly ill trained, lacking in verbal skills, refuse to get the chips off of their shoulder......cause you know.....They passed the police exam this time but were just waiting for their drug test to come back.....cough, cough, nudge.
When they were hiding they were fine......once they started acting like guards everybody was in trouble. How many of them were locked up for warrants and discharging......domestics on duty,..... with residents.....battery......look that Shit up..... If an arrest was made for them as the complainant........ they.......NEVER WENT TO COURT. unless they were the arrestee.
How many of the Aldermans/women's...... family and friends get jobs ......with these goofs and subsequently carry firearms.............I know if several who would say they were the police, sore their badge and holstered gun and wear CPD police uniform looking pants, our a sky blue shirt (under an opened hoodie) requesting discounts.......at the Gyros stand........bwahhaaa still lol.
Anyway....Alderman/woman.......you need more police......hire more police......stop trying to subsidise real police officers with these terrible wannabe armed security guards, cause you get something like favors or jobs to give out or something else......
Dyla Hata
Should have put these people downtown.
Hell, they should have put CPD downtown!
Great way to waste money. Kudos to Kate’s security for their outstanding response to 6100 S Carpenter
Once again " Defund The Police" money will be diverted to these " private security " companies who will then kickback to the Democrats. The Republicans have to make sure that no federal money goes to cities that " Defund" their departments to make up for this thievery. Theft on a massive scale is being planned...
So, we need to defund the police that way we can have fewer police bothering our citizens, but part of the soultion will be to hire security dipshits because we need more police because they need to be defunded. Who's on first?
Enter the "Cossacks"...I swear this country is just giving it over to the communist's, and few people see it. Obama (Sol Alinsky associate) appointed Czars over industry here in the US. Progressive liberals openly identify them selves as having communist tendencies. Now it's replace the police and bring in the civilian guard (aka Cossacks). Our history is being rewritten, and monuments are being torn down. Everything in the name of progressives. It wont take too long before this country "really" sucks as the younger generation has put it so often. The way I see it, none of this is Trumps fault. KAGA...!
One day a lot of people are going to wake up and it will be too late.
Wally Walrus Says:
Dont worry about it, just let it roll. Things are getting so bad that Trump will soon involk the Insurrection Act, and sweep the streets of this Vermin, leading to an massive victory for him in November.
"The security vehicles have green LED light bars - which some citizens will mistake for blue. Now there will be a nightly light show in Englewood.
Retired .38 spl +P
7/05/2020 01:33:00 AM"
Drive around with the lights flashing, givin off hard looks. The one burgling cars just gets low when he comes by, then back to work.
The hardheads laugh at the real police; like one gentleman here said, "They shoot at each other when they have my squad car between them."
I don't think "see-kyou-tee" worries them very much. From what "catchment" are the employees recruited? Might be his cousin Big Hammer drivin that thing...out all night, old friends, all kinds of street business take care of.
How did that work out ????
7/05/2020 02:15:00 AM
Also don't forget much of the money donated to BLM is going to a PAC to help elect Shotgun Joe Biden. I wonder what Walmart thinks they will get from Joe with their $100 Million bribe, I mean contribution? I suspect, God forbid ,that if Joe gets the job we will go after Walmart because they are non union. He won't push them to raise wages or to better working conditions, just make sure that each worker makes a contribution to a union each month.
Who’s paying-you are. TIF’s or SSA’s pay for this type of security. Kate’s was a good firm when is was small. However, they are now doing what Preckwinkle of your Mayor tell him what to do. Remember—-no vehicle or foot traces.
How’s the private security working this past weekend? Hahahaha
Violence is a money maker for the connected and the Democratic Party . Reverends, community organizations. private companies all collecting from INVESTMENTS in the community. If the violence stops so do the investments. This is a money maker for democrats. Count the dead along with calls for investments in the community. It’s as plain as the nose on your face.
Hire more Police not security!
They should have hired Blackwater for private security.
Anonymous said...
Hope that security chases them clear past the Shangani forest preserve
7/05/2020 03:54:00 AM
The Shangani forest preserve is the boundary between Rhodesia and Mozambique; during the Rhodesian bush war communist insurgents would cross the border to attack Rhodesian security forces and get chased back to Mozambique
Anonymous said...
Lots of them look up to the police. In general, they will help you if they can. It's tough being on the bottom of the law enforcement barrel. Talk about not getting any respect. Treat them with respect and they will try to help you. Just my experience.
7/05/2020 09:59:00 AM
No, you are right, my experience also. Some are real goofs, but most really want to help. I had a couple save my ass one night in 010 when I was alone. Respect is a two way street
For the first time ever, the city has committed millions of dollars to violence intervention and street outreach as part of its budget. The mayor hopes this weekend it will pay off.
– Tax dollars at work and the courts and jail are still Closed.
7/05/2020 09:19:00 AM
The best way to spend the money on " violence reduction", is to hire a moving company
Let the shit show begin.
They are a security school & a licensed fingerprint vendor but could NOT find an active security contractor agency license?? Unless they are “hiding” under a different license number?? Call the Illinois Dept. of Professional Regulation & see if they are even LEGAL
"alderman and a coalition of community leaders announced Thursday that a private security firm had been hired as additional "eyes and ears" to assist police in curbing violence"
Aren't the "eyes and ears" supposed to be the citizens? How fucked up must a community be that the city has to pay people to call police when they see crime??? Decent, law biding citizens do that already.
Their at the surface of the the real problem. Keep digging.
The Alderthief said on the news that the “security” wouldn’t be arresting anyone.... said they’re only there to “observe”
Hey!!!! That's our job.
-Typical Cops hate rent-a-cops.
-The security folks do have citizen arrest powers. In illinois it's pretty simple and strong.
-If there were enough cops they wouldn't need to look for other help.
-Can't get the National guard because lightfoot/pritzker have to authorize it when short of an insurrection such as the chaz.
***I got a great idea - get out of your squad and start talking with the citizens about how the democrats got you into your hell whole - stop voting for them. Do something for yourselves that counts, change the peoples minds.***
"...Who owns Kate's?..."
Kate Something or other.
Ald. Stephanie Coleman is the daughter of Former Ald. Shirley Coleman. Both are known for neighborhood marches. ☹️
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