Squad Policing This Fall
The program so bad it failed in Pittsburgh, St Louis and Frisco. In fact, it failed so badly, NYPD discontinued it ten years ago.
- 003,007,009,010,011,012,015, and 025 notified yesterday that they will be starting that squad program in the fall. The one that 006 is doing now.
This is partly an attempt to cover up the manpower shortages.
UPDATE: Yes, it failed here in 012 a few years ago. It also failed in some other District up north.
And as someone reminded us in the comments, it is currently failing here in 006 - look at the sheets and try to get a day off.
It cannot work unless you increase manpower by nearly one-quarter, equipment (you need cars) by another quarter, and eliminate special day off groups like school officers along with the inside spots like CAPS and Commander offices.
UPDATE: Yes, it failed here in 012 a few years ago. It also failed in some other District up north.
And as someone reminded us in the comments, it is currently failing here in 006 - look at the sheets and try to get a day off.
It cannot work unless you increase manpower by nearly one-quarter, equipment (you need cars) by another quarter, and eliminate special day off groups like school officers along with the inside spots like CAPS and Commander offices.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
143 Comments:
Grooter when are you gonna slash the police budge and give people in the neighborhoods some psychological service with the change that’s left over— I understand u gotta give the teacher another Covid raise. Just wondering, lord help me Jesus!
They're gonna need more sgts
Jeez, enough with this stupid idea, already. IT DOESN’T WORK. There’s not enough manpower to make it work. But then again, CAPS hasn’t fully died in my 28 years, so I guess this won’t go away any time soon.
Gee thats funny I'm a boss in one of those districts and never heard anything about it. And if it is implemented it actually requires more manpower not less.
4 strikes, so they're bringing it to Chicago.
Logical with David Brown in charge.
012 did squad policing several years ago. It was a miserable failure.
if you got a good sergeant and good team mates its the best. If you don't you fucked man long days, long weeks, long months. With the squad concept they know who to hhammer when you fuck up and I am not talking about the PO I am talking about the sergeant. Now you may have 5 different sergeants in a week but with the squad concept you have one.
The Squad Policing was already tried in Chicago and it was a complete failure. This department is riduculous. There were bosses around when it was tried in the past, why aren't they speaking up and letting the new bosses that think it is a good idea, that it is not and didn't work in the past. I hate when they re-peat the same failing programs that they already new ahead of time would fail. Since the Superintendent already disband many city wide units there should not be a shortage of manpower on the watches, so I am not sure how they expect a failed program to all of a sudden work. Chicago never learns from their mistakes. They just keep repeating them. Every one knows how to prevent the violence, but because Rahm and Gary let the ACLU communists into the city, the Police can not prevent the violence because every thing a proactive police department has achieved was wiped out from the clown Gary signing away to eh ACLU.
Whatever they r doing in 006 has failed
Go figure cowboy
024, and a couple other districts did it for 3 years. It failed back then. It will continue to fail. Only way for it to work is if they mass hire and mass promote...
I was on the job in the 90's when the violence was out of control. pro-active policing is what brought the homicide rates down to the lower numbers. It was not the democrats and their ridiculous gun laws, it was not the states attorneys office, it was good old fashion pro-active policing that brought the rate down. The criminals knew if they carried guns with out a permit they would get caught and be properly charged and put away for awhile. They no longer have that fear thanks to the ACLU communists and the George Soros states attorney. The media has created this false narrative about the pro-active police which has made way for some serious evil people to get elected and these elected officials have given some seriously evil people power that they do not deserve, just because they claim to be a community activist. I am 51 years old and have been a police officer for 24 years, and in my entire life the only community activist that I have ever met or hear about in the media that does not have an evil agenda is Andrew Holmes, he is the a legitimate community activist in this wicked city. Until the good honest hard working people in this city start making noise, this city will just get more violent and more wicked.
When u have a never been cop, political hack like Donna Rowling in charge, this is the result. U sold out Donna. FU
What ever happened to the old adage separation between religion and state. The corner store reverends should not be able to black mail politicians to give them funding for their bs programs that are not properly handled. Why don't the people that are voting the way they are told to vote by the corner store reverends open their eyes and realize that they are only hurting themselves by following these fake men of god. The reverends are wearing expensive suits and driving a cadillac, but their congregations are dodging bullets and living in squalor year after year. We need the mayor and the alderman to tell these fake men of the cloth no. Pro-active policing without the bs community lies will lower the violence in this city. The media has to begin telling the truth and not trying to make the police out to be the bad guys. Last time I checked it wasn't the police out there killing woman and children and men in the streets of Chicago every day of the year. We need to put the blame where it belongs and stop the media from allowing the lies to continue. It appears that people today just to not have morals or compassion. Especially the media, politicians and the men of the cloth. Enough is enough lets get serious and fix the problems in society that can be fixed.
Welcome to the shit show. I can’t wait for the ride to stop so I can get off. I so badly want to retire. Counting down at 4 years and 7 months. This used to be a good job.
Gross
Didn’t we have this program under Weiss and it failed here too!!!!
In 006 it highlights the manpower shortage not covers it up..... just look at the sheets.
Funny through all this - you don't hear a peep from Rahm Emmanuel???
He seems so distant now. Like he never was Mayor.
They need a diversion from the violence and this is left as answer. Murders will go down in the fall through winter obviously and this will be the reason why.
It failed in 006 as well...
What is it?
They could probably use Frank Drebin from "The Naked Gun" to bring law an order once again!
It didn’t work in 12 and that’s back when we merged with 13 and had 600 officers.
I loved "Police Squad!"
That was a really funny show. But it only lasted Six Weeks!
I want more Police Squad!
This makes as much sense as anything from out of Town Brown.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dYdUZfHGP04
Manpower Shortages? Please enlighten. Think it is bad now wait until there is 2,000 less of you. Still haven't got a plan B? Then suffer fool.
Cover up?
It takes a large number of officers and sergeants to make this program work.
If there are not enough bodies how does this happen???
Worked this in 012 years ago, and it did not work than. The start and end times are just so screwed up, there where only 1 or 2 cars up at the end of the tour for the whole district.
They're gonna need a bigger boat!!!
Gee thats funny I'm a boss in one of those districts and never heard anything about it. And if it is implemented it actually requires more manpower not less.
Gee that’s funny because I have seen the email and it is 100% true. Maybe you are just not in the know.
And, per the Consent Decree which the email references, every district is REQUIRED to implement it by 2022.
Bring back stop and frisk and crime will go down. Nothing else will work and they know it.
Manpower Shortages? Please enlighten. Think it is bad now wait until there is 2,000 less of you. Still haven't got a plan B? Then suffer fool.
8/07/2020 04:34:00 AM
So lovely that you dropped by and felt it necessary to comment. Now try never doing it again. Your momma should have used her Plan B. Jerk.
Seems to be the ancient Sector Patrol concept. It did not work here in the 70's and it will not ever work in Chicago.
Let's keep doing things that don't work, right, Mayor?
But she's "brilliant".
She could f-up a one car funeral.
Why isn’t 016, 022, 017, 019, etc... implementing it? Is it because the city and department know it’s a failure, and the previous mentioned districts do not have enough manpower to even to with the idea?
Well we have the most incompetent command staff in the history of policing! 75% should still be driving around in a blue shirt. But they were given 2,3,4+ promotions and this is why we are where we are!
More cow bell please!
All that said and do you think they give a shit
If you can’t get a day off or it makes for a worse
Work day for you ?
What exactly squad policing and how does it differ from the regular assignment and supervision process?
Is there a department where it has worked?
It will be harder to take time off with less day off groups.
It cannot work unless you increase manpower by nearly one-quarter, equipment (you need cars) by another quarter, and eliminate special day off groups like school officers along with the inside spots like CAPS and Commander offices.
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Inside house mice, caps and other assorted desk dollies spots shall never diminish as long as there's a sexually depraved exempt around to sponsor them...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Gee thats funny I'm a boss in one of those districts and never heard anything about it. And if it is implemented it actually requires more manpower not less.
8/07/2020 12:11:00 AM
“Boss” how much time on the job do you have?
The “bosses” and suckholes at HQ couldn’t give two shits about ANYONE in a district and you think you’d be given the courtesy of advance notice?
If you’re that naive you must be a great “boss”
Like socialism/communism, all those other attempts just weren't done right.
For us newer guys, please explain how this works?
Keep utilizing the same FAILED programs, then sit back and wonder why Chicago is a shit hole.
Manpower Shortages? Please enlighten. Think it is bad now wait until there is 2,000 less of you. Still haven't got a plan B? Then suffer fool.
Some days I suffer to the tune of almost $72 dollars an hour.
DSS who gives no fox
Here’s the story about the “squad policing.” First, the morons from the AG’s office looked at other consent decrees and saw supervision requirements such as Detroit’s which required 1 Sgt for every 7 POs for field patrol shift staffing. They interpreted that into a “team” format. They are stupid and didn’t / don’t understand police supervision and staffing. They presented the concept to the CPD consent decree group, but the head, Tina Anderson was clueless and the now-Deputy Chief Dan Godsel who was just trying to keep his phony-baloney job, so they said, “Sure, that’ll work.” The idea was presented to the District Commanders and Captains at a meeting at HQ, where it was soundly trashed and a couple commanders did a good job of pointing out why it cannot work and that it did not mean what the AG’s office thought it meant. Nope, no reconsidering of truth and reality. There should have been push back from the Department, but you had ball-less MFers working in “Reform Management” more worried about their jobs than the best interests of the Chicago Police Department. And that’s how we get squad policing.
WTF is squad policing?
Idiots. Tried then failed. Over and over. Wish I was a dog ass from day one. Glad I am one now. Good one too. This department is just too funny. Like a big fat joke. Just take as much time off and not be at work.
When you have nothing, put a coat of paint on old stuff and call it new.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Funny through all this - you don't hear a peep from Rahm Emmanuel???
He seems so distant now. Like he never was Mayor.
8/07/2020 01:15:00 AM
He seems to be living in NYC and is a regular writer for the WSJ and some other publications. I am sure he will be on many TV programs as we get closer to the national election
OT
Well with the schools being online we should be spared
from supermarket cashiers asking for donations for
kids SCHOOL SUPPLIES. Remember Those?
Pain in the ass outright lies.
Stick your supplies.............
Question for Superintendent Out of Town Brown: Does Dallas PD have Squad Policing? Has Dallas PD ever had Squad Policing? Are you now or have you ever been a member of any Police Department that ever had or current has Squad Policing?
Every old garden hose strategy always works after you hammer out the kinks. Besides, how long has it been since they rebooted that squad scheme, 10-12 years now? Hey, strat-cars worked in the ‘70’s-‘80’s, when Activity was King, when UUW had a bite, when Jimmy’s was free.
Seems these dimwit Merit Commandeers are resorting again to nostalgia - in these challenging and forgetful times.
Imbecile Derelict Larri is paying Hashed Browns big money for some leftover feeding him their Jugghead Approved - Riccio denied ideas.
Then there’s the Rampart binder Chollie Becks left behind.
Still, keep loading up the DOJ with those shot-kilt gun cases, watch them burn out, pack up by Columbus Day. Makes them look like the community bad guy, even though it appears to be working, knowing Larri and Hashed will claim brooms, buckets and trust strategyis the magic wand. KmmFxxxUp 2020 will take that too.
Larri goes with the flow, as she’s told by the current radical trend as verified by her CPS-CTU cave (again).
Community failure Larri doesn’t have the balls to point out the problem with restorative justice and the violence that is the result of CookCo States Atty. Believing any age old strategy Larri allows of Hashed to revitalize is going to give the Blue Shirt carte-blanche to police like it’s 1994 is absolutely nuts. NO arrest with be without resistance and that means COPA flag and booth review.
I loved "Police Squad!"
That was a really funny show. But it only lasted Six Weeks!
I want more Police Squad!
Then check out 'Sledge Hammer'
School Officers, what schools they are closed
It's been reported that up to 20% of the Minneapolis Police Department is in the process of filing for disability. I'm certain that our numbers will continue to grow regarding officers hitting the medical and some even filing for disability, let alone the guys retiring. Makes you wonder where our numbers are going to be in the upcoming weeks leading up to November. I don't care what you call these initiatives, some new and some old, we need bodies to even come close to being able to protect each other, not to mention the public. I Dread the emails that will be forthcoming regarding this shit. I guess I’ll see you out there somewhere……….
I worked the 21st district late 70's very early 80's El Rukn, Blk P Stone Gangster Disciple, pull up to a corner like 43rd Ellis and simply say "give me the corner", they moved or went to jail, never cured the problem but more gave you the respect than today.
One arrest equals ten different versions. A defense attorneys dream come true.
My Union buddies that have voted straight Democrat since the 80s tell me that the reason that they vote Democrat is that the Dems "take care of the workers". They hate Republicans and may have voted for Obama, but they have never admitted it openly. What gives?
P.S. I was scolded as a young Union Printer for "working too fast and making people look bad". I decided to find a more capitalist leaning place to work. Not all of us benefit from the "no child left behind, Pre-Union training" at CPS.
"I was on the job in the 90's when the violence was out of control. pro-active policing is what brought the homicide rates down to the lower numbers. It was not the democrats and their ridiculous gun laws, it was not the states attorneys office, it was good old fashion pro-active policing that brought the rate down. The criminals knew if they carried guns with out a permit they would get caught and be properly charged and put away for awhile. They no longer have that fear thanks to the ACLU communists and the George Soros states attorney. The media has created this false narrative about the pro-active police which has made way for some serious evil people to get elected and these elected officials have given some seriously evil people power that they do not deserve, just because they claim to be a community activist. I am 51 years old and have been a police officer for 24 years, and in my entire life the only community activist that I have ever met or hear about in the media that does not have an evil agenda is Andrew Holmes, he is the a legitimate community activist in this wicked city. Until the good honest hard working people in this city start making noise, this city will just get more violent and more wicked."
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You got the age and years of service, so why aren't you retired? I'm out the first day I can retire. Fuck this job.
This is going to be so kewl. Can I grow a beard and shave my head?
If your first watch get ready to be screwed some more. It was a total disaster in 003 and 006. Sometimes only 3 cars up after 430a
Meet Hank Lightfoot, the Mayor's Dog
Stop, Thief!
I cry foul.
According to the movie database IMDb, 'Hank Lightfoot'
was part of the Camera Department on Soul Train.
Lori Lightfoot is a low life thief from Massilon.
(Soul Train. She stole from Soul Train. Pitiful.)
Frank Drebin! We need Frank Drebin! --- He's our only hope!!!
OT. Attorneys Demand Chicago Police Stop Its ‘Abusive’ Search Warrant Tactics, Or They’ll Take CPD To Federal Court
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/08/06/attorneys-demand-chicago-police-stop-its-abusive-search-warrant-tactics-or-theyll-take-cpd-to-federal-court/
just FYI I haven't even read it
The general public will not remember the failure of such a program, so just dress it up with new verbiage and push it out as an innovation. It will appear to be a good initiative, like they're trying their best.
Just a fresh coat of polish on an old stinky turd.
And the band plays on...
Funny through all this - you don't hear a peep from Rahm Emmanuel???
He seems so distant now. Like he never was Mayor.
----Au contraire! You didn't think that half-pint weasel could actually keep his mouth shut through all of this could you? Police funding and protests comes in at 3:15 after Joyless Be-hag cues him in with the loaded anti-Trump question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLFeWZh0NuI
its all smoke and mirrors to fool the general public. we all know who the cause of most of the crime in Chicago is and being that Groot is a police hating failure and Foxx refuses to do her job and is in bed with the criminals, nothing will change
Anonymous said...
They're gonna need more sgts
8/07/2020 12:09:00 AM
Sgts who were promoted by score not merit!
The slow and irreversible slide into deliberately
inflicted "managed failure."
Said failure has induced sheer, bald-faced, bulge-eyed,
gaped-mouth, hand-wringing, pant-shitting PANIC by the
media handmaidens and elected officialdom.
Not about the violence being inflicted by the evil,
death and destruction loving, law abiding society-hating,
revenge-seeking peoples, folkses and communerty membaz;
but the VERY REAL AND NATURAL FACT that control of the
prevailing though morally bereft narration has been LOST.
Translation for those whose lips
move when they try to read/comprehend
something way above their grade level?
That ugly, multi-titted, crown wearing critter with teeth
like broken mirror glass - named KARMA, has somehow managed
to slip the metropolitan liberal democrat collectivist/
perpetually aggrieved peoples/folkses leash, swapped ends,
growled and is now very busily chasing the metropolitans
and peoples/folkses around and tearing the meats of their
tender, gleefully and willfully ignorant, joyously hate
filled asses from the bone.
"Squad Policing" is the desperate, doomed to fail (yet again)
political optics driven response to the frantic screams of:
"SOMEBODY MAKE THE POLICE DO SOMETHING ABOUT
ALL OF THIS 'Gun' VIOLENCE UP IN HERE!"
Karma DOES
Oh wait. Then there's this...
"If we can make those Mt. Greenwood and Edison Pk.
conservative echo chamber dwelling "RACIST" Cops and their
FOP stop resisting our efforts to bring about "Police Reform
and Accountability," we'll be able to build "Community Trust"
and stop all of this "Police-Driven Crime."
...Fallacious, fantastical, feverish cherry cloud dwelling,
crack smoking, mad monkey-minded, vengeful, shit in their hands/
fling it at the moon logic and reasoning...
Not that THAT ever slowed the political roll in Chicago.
The Police will quite naturally continue to:
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Been there done that in 012 under McCarthy it was a DISASTER ! Not enough cops or supervisors for this program. No way this is being done it was terrible time in 012 district under this program.
Off topic......Milwaukee
The black city council, against the mayors advice,
just demoted their Police Chief back to captain......
Because he stood up for his officers, used tear gas
against the rioters, and refused to fire the officers
who stopped a black “celebrity” athlete who was tased after
resisting and refusing to remove his hands from his pockets!
Chief is Hispanic......not sure what new appointee is.....
But this LET ALL CRIMINALS GO philosophy is
affecting every major city.......can’t wait to see the carnage
continue there......INSANITY!
I used to watch that "M Squad" seemed to work for Lee Marvin.
500 by the end of August, great job Dwarf.
From the topic post
"And as someone reminded us in the comments, it is currently failing here in 006 - look at the sheets and try to get a day off."
Passive denial of CU time due to manpower shortage IS a goal. Do you think ugly duckling in shitty hall is going to mass hire in the wake of massive upcoming 9161's retiring? They can't keep up with attrition on a normal scale, how do you think they can attract new candidates for the job in the current anti-police, marxist-communist revolution?
Stay out of the weeds and take a 30,000 foot view of the landscape and what they (anti police and marxist communists) are trying to accomplish?
Don’t forget more Sgt’s also start more classes let’s get to 1000 on the list or 900.
"Anonymous said...
Welcome to the shit show. I can’t wait for the ride to stop so I can get off. I so badly want to retire. Counting down at 4 years and 7 months. This used to be a good job.
8/07/2020 12:46:00 AM"
I understand you completely my brother, or sister! I have just a little less than 4 years to go and it seems like a lifetime away in this shit-hole. Take it one day at a time and mark off the calendar as time passes by.
The Chicago Police way. Keep trying to force the square peg through the round hole. Just like that hiding spot, CAPS.
Fuck Rahm Emmanuel
I was on the job in the 90's when the violence was out of control. pro-active policing is what brought the homicide rates down to the lower numbers. It was not the democrats and their ridiculous gun laws, it was not the states attorneys office, it was good old fashion pro-active policing that brought the rate down. The criminals knew if they carried guns with out a permit they would get caught and be properly charged and put away for awhile.
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There was no such a thing as a permit to carry back then. The Illinois permit to carry legislation did not become law until 2013.
In any case unless the rest of the criminal justice system works to prosecute and lock up the more violent offenders, it does not matter much what police do.
Superintendent Brown is a huge fan of CAPS
What will be gone is rank of Captain
He knows it’s a useless position , no real duties
He has to look into phony do nothing rank of Inspector , writing up No Mask 😷 what a pussy ?
It's like trying to find a lost dog in the forest, they will never get department back
Let's call it the "Mod Squad"....Hair Gels can wear their hat backwards, and blue jeans will be required dress...btw...there will be no days off.
Who cares? They have already made the job nearly impossible and anything that you do could end your career or send you to prison. Our Soros puppet state’s attorney wouldn’t hesitate to charge any of you if it became politically expedient. Let them shuffle the deck however they see fit. If you have less than 10 years on the job, get out while you can. If you can stay until retirement, lay low and focus on the 1st and 16th. Also, invest everything that you can and have a plan for a second career in case the pension fund becomes insolvent.
The leadership of most major metro pds have a very short shelf life, and as most moved up on the peter principle they don’t know what really works and what doesn’t....if they implement a plan and by some quirky coincidence it works, or as crime is often cyclic anyways the crime numbers are down or heck, they just lie about the numbers, they take all the credit...but, most of the time their plans don’t and can’t work, and they’ll blame the street cops, the union, lack of manpower, equipment, support and so on, but b6 that time they’re out the door, and dazzling some other city on what a super chief they are
From a great source at 35th Street they are doing the math and the only way Squad Policing will work will be forced 12 hr days. So far, come January we could lose between 3,000-3500 conservatively and even those under 55 with under 20 years are bailing. 12 hrs in a fast district will be living hell and lead to multiple Van Dyke mental exhaustion conflicts. This will be Groots Defunding response to the idiots calling for it.
006 is a Shit show your good IF you have a good SGT but totally screwed if you don’t. How does it serve the community to have 2 sectors down each watch for shift change. It’s hours long back log ever night. God forbid you have previous watch beat car on something because the new watch coming in will wait for their car. You have supervisors who won’t make the call to take any available car. Barely any rapids No 06 team to cover the backlog or in progress calls. Don’t even get me started on why we are providing security to 2 Walgreens everyday that’s 2 cars every watch. Plus the brass still wants Surge missions you got to be kidding me. What about the grievance filled on all the people forced to change their day off group ( only if you had an even #) partners who work well with each other got spit up lost their beats. It’s a nightmare but some paper pusher at HQ who hasn’t been out on the street thinks this is a good idea? 006 use to be great with back up but now meh. Geez I wish someone with some authority can step up in Comsat and lay it out instead of “thank you sir may I have another”.
Admin:
Police create super PAC to target ‘defund’ politicians
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/cops-create-super-pac-to-target-defund-politicians
Inspectors in Garfield Ridge on Archer Ave hitting business owner's for $10,000 fines due to Covid. Larry is having her inspectors in white and brown areas but nothing in black areas. Southside and westside "youths" gathering 100 at a time to vandalize, Rob, car jack the working class and NOTHING happens to them. Black owned businesses violate the Covid order on a daily basis and nothing happens. This is why we wonder Chicago will turn into another Detroit within the year.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/panel-ponders-firing-milwaukee-police-181606053.html
Meanwhile, in Norfolk...
https://youtu.be/rEuXw_PK-VQ
2020 is one for the record books.
Squad Policing?
Touch Football?
Snoopy ?
Lucy?
Director Glenn Brooks to the Rescue
Bug-eyed midget pygmy
Instead of recycled bs, just let police be police and O'Brien prosecute.
There was no such a thing as a permit to carry back then. The Illinois permit to carry legislation did not become law until 2013.
Sorry without an FOID card. But, I know you understand what I was trying to get across.
You got the age and years of service, so why aren't you retired? I'm out the first day I can retire. Fuck this job.
I don't have the age, I am only 51, I need the insurance for my wife and I.
Yes well that $72 an hour will not bring you happiness or sound mental health. But it will be helpful with all your coming tax increases and private school tuition.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I loved "Police Squad!"
That was a really funny show. But it only lasted Six Weeks!
I want more Police Squad!
Then check out 'Sledge Hammer'
8/07/2020 08:42:00 AM
I was a fan of Car 54. Here is a cute video clip of their rendition of a song from an old Gilbert and Sullivan play from the turn of the last century "A policeman's lot is not a happy one." If you listen to it is so true. Times do not really change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N6YgivIqjI
Another version sung by British Police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YISsyeNjyuU&list=PL4030A0C5F5B1EF4B
Like everything else Brown Skid Marks has come up with another FAIL. His only hope is an early winter. Polar vortex in September might keep it under 800 for the year.
Arena is still training his pack of scumbags. They are engaging everyone on Facebook and Next-door and it's getting worse. Where is the "G"? Money is rolling in and it's business as usual for the Commie crowd. This clown was supposed to be going to jail months ago.
OT: You know, I used to be of the mindset “Pro Union” all the way, no matter the profession as workers across the board should be united to the same cause: ensure worker’s rights, ensure fair pay, ensure worker’s a safe working environment. I’m beginning to realize that Unions are and have been largely places for this Socialist/Communist leanings to grow. Communists/Socialists have inserted themselves & are subverting our Democracy within unions. The sad thing is - they eventually will lead to their own demise. If you start doing your research, the CTU isn’t the only place for Communist wannabes. The Montana Federation of Public Employees just chose an actual Communist as President. She is a member of an organization, Industrial Workers of the World, whose stated goal is to create a worldwide union to break up Capitalism. Also sounds like it’s service worker counter part the AFL-CIO doesn’t it. Honestly, this is where Corporations need to start stepping up. If we are honest, there are issues with monopolies, corporations shirking antitrust laws etc. Is this all a reaction to that? I’m not smart enough to tell you, but sure seems like the extremes are running rampant while the vast majority of us are getting played.
No more “keep me off the paper” see you in court squad team.federal court included!
black lifes matters can SMD!
NYPD just turned chicken. Chief ordered his men to back down from barricaded police assault perp. They were afraid of protesters coming to aid of perp. Suggest you all explore another occupation as policing in this country is DEAD. MOB RULE! Gun up folks going to be a violent rest of the year.
You know the manpower is bad when 1st watch cars are 99 units.
This is not being ordered by the braintrust of the department. It is ordered by the a federal judge in a federal court under the consent decree. And yes, it is a consent decree imposed due to a lawsuit filed by the State of Illinois against the City of Chicago and CPD. The lawsuit was not filed by the federal government.
If you want to get a glimpse of the department's future, read the consent decree. The most important line is something like this, not verbatim but in summary: This [new thing] will be implemented and the City will find the [financial] resources to make it happen.
Prepare yourselves to be report-takers. Get ready for backlogs--which, by the way, is not the beat cop's responsibility. the police department will have to either accept backlogs, or hire more officers.
The body of proactive policing is dead, though still warm to the touch. Proactive policing will not be revived for many years if ever.
The consent decree requires that every 10 officers on the street in the districts will be supervised by one supervisor by the year 2022 or 2023. That does not mean a 10:1 ratio on the overall numbers for the district, but a 10:1 ratio of officers on the watch sheets and on the streets. This will actually be a good thing for sergeants, who oftentimes can have 28 or more officers to supervise on their logs.
The times are and will continue to change. Educate yourself and don't sound surprised when announcements like this are made.
Squad policing, unity of command, or span of control, whatever you want to call it, is coming quickly.
And the big question will be, will the City spend more money to promote more to sergeant (thereby protecting and preserving those sergeants who are way overpaid for whatever office work they do), or will the City start moving sergeants from other bureaus back to patrol to meet this requirement of the consent decree?
-copfucious say: Stop trying to reinvent the fuckin wheel🤓
Well we have the most incompetent command staff in the history of policing! 75% should still be driving around in a blue shirt. But they were given 2,3,4+ promotions and this is why we are where we are!
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that's an insult to blue shirts, be honest they shouldn't of been hired in the first place. Shoulda been denied employment, but now they run it.
The house mice have been rebreathing copious amounts of CO2 through their COVID masks. Brown stain included. The Ghetto Mayor will be long remembered for the complete destruction of the City.? Gas on the fire.
*****Off topic......Milwaukee
The black city council, against the mayors advice,
just demoted their Police Chief back to captain......
Because he stood up for his officers, used tear gas
against the rioters, and refused to fire the officers
who stopped a black “celebrity” athlete who was tased after
resisting and refusing to remove his hands from his pockets!
Chief is Hispanic......not sure what new appointee is.....
But this LET ALL CRIMINALS GO philosophy is
affecting every major city.......can’t wait to see the carnage
continue there......INSANITY!
*******I really can’t wait for the brown of the black and brown people to get disgusted and distance themselves from this BS. Brown people actually remind me of my own ancestry (Irish). Often criticized for their stereotypes, but ultimately hard working, moral, family oriented people who want a better life. Advice to “brown people”, back away from this shit. You’re better than that.****
Father phegar flakey mike want st Sabina to have same police officers as Gold Coast. So do the people in Beverly and Morgan park and mount Greenwood. We want protection from criminals , we support police. Father you and your community want to defund police. You are law breakers. Shut down dan Ryan xway block traffic. You and your neighbor support blm. Antifa
You deserve no protection.
Hey? What is the salary package for The Midnight Cowboy?
We have a right to know.
This is essentially police welfare.
Eddie Johnson: theft of time while on duty.
Charlie Beck: theft of time while on duty.
David Brown: theft of time while on duty.
Yet you get the riot act for every sore throat, cold, headache,
and burnout caused by overwork.
We highly resent those fucking terms.
This will fail unless the department provides the right number of sergeants
To those districts
For us newer guys, please explain how this works?
8/07/2020 07:20:00 AM
One Sgt has 10 po’s assigned to him/her. Everyone assigned to the Sgt shares a day off group, and start time. Higher seniority Sgt gets dibs on POs, sector, start time, and Day off group. Sgt isn’t allowed to have more than 10 POS assigned to his log. Probably missing some things but that’s what I’ve heard so far
“Change = Progress”
These people ALWAYS think that they can do it better, despite the fact that it hasn't worked in 132 other places. They think that because they cherry pick the parts they like, and ignore the rest.
Then they change it back, y'know, for “progress”.
rb
Seems to be the ancient Sector Patrol concept. It did not work here in the 70's and it will not ever work in Chicago.
Not so, it worked great in the 70's, lots of fun, a great concept. But we had at least 4 sectors in every district, no matter how small the area was. We also had a wagon for each sector, and 2 to 3 response cars in the sector in addition to the beat cars. If you worked in a fast district add in the SOG cars and the Gang Crimes cars each working the district on a regular basis. It was not unusual for an arrestee to have two sets of cuffs on him with the district and outside units fighting over who got the pinch first. You had your own sergeant for your sector and at times there would be two field Lt's, and a Captain on the street. Enough cars for everyone. Also had traffic cars for the accident reports. I worked in a fast district that also had an officer stationed at each of our three busiest hospitals who wrote the paper on all of the wounded coming into the emergency room, The hospital officer had their own offices in the ER fully stocked with supplies and reports & complaints, they even made arrests in the ER when necessary. When the watch rotated to days only a portion of the officers went on the 2nd watch (it was like a badge of honor to be selected to stay on the watch when it rotated to days) The rest of the officers stayed on 3rd watch or midnights, many prefered to have a straight watch assignment, but your day off group may change each period. The watch secretary would try to keep you in the same DOG if your weekends were coming up but it didn't always work out.
The concept was great and promoted aggressive policing and a real sense of teamwork.
The concept is impossible in the current CPD. Not enough people, cars, supervisors etc. Straight watch assignments that are now the norm would make it impossible for the concept to work. And the fact that many of the officers in today's CPD think of themselves as independent contractors who would make any teamwork concept unworkable.
Funny through all this - you don't hear a peep from Rahm Emmanuel???
He seems so distant now. Like he never was Mayor.
8/07/2020 01:15:00 AM
Who? No, really. Emanuel is politically dead.
Break out the Champagne everyone and celebrate Dude, Inc. 2400 shootings as of today. An Honorable Mention for the 462 kilt too. The magic 500 kilt is right around the corner. 38 more to go. Wasn't it the Dummy from Dallas who said he was going to keep the number kilt to 300? What a fool this man from Dallas truly is. But don't worry he's got another plan. Hopefully that plan is to leave the Shitty City.
Well when the Imp come back from Michigan someone will whisper the number of kilt and maimed so she can act surprised and shocked. Then go to the usual story about how bad we are for not wearing a mask, social distancing and washing the hands. Washing the hands is important to get all the blood off them and look presentable at the presser.
The deform imp will huff and puff and blow it out her ass again. No one cares what dwarfs say or do. No one believes you except the activist and biased media.
Anonymous said...
Seems to be the ancient Sector Patrol concept. It did not work here in the 70's and it will not ever work in Chicago.
8/07/2020 05:49:00 AM
Yea I remember it from the late 70s or early 80s. Your right it was a pain in the ass. They are always desperate to figure out new ways to stop crime. They must have found this old program in a cardboard box in the storage room. Too much thinking outside the box for new ideas. Think inside the box, it’s simple. Street stops, arrests, convictions, long incarcerations. It has been proven to work every time. But it requires the the backing of our elected officials, some of whom are far left radicals from the 1960s and the rest have been indoctrinated by them. They are pandering to BLM & ANTIFA for power and votes. It’s the minority controlling the majority. It won’t stop until they get their asses kicked.
8/07/2020 01:15:00 AM
He seems to be living in NYC and is a regular writer for the WSJ and some other publications. I am sure he will be on many TV programs as we get closer to the national election
8/07/2020 08:28:00 AM
But where is the WEDDING dress ?
It was the forward thinking, highly educated street smart exempt staff that came up with this failed idea. All that schooling in Boston, at Northwestern and the FBI Academy accomplished nothing. And why won't it work? More than half of those exempts were promoted through administrative ass kissing, paper pushing jobs and not from any real street experience. Now they can all pat themselves on the back and wait for the reduction in crime.
The plan be increasing manpower in the squad districts by moving folks/people from the rest of patrol. Lookie for verbiage to that effect in our next FLOP-negotiated contract. Which will take effect three years after I retire.
FOP has the labor board decision that the city can not change the work schedule witout negotiations! FOP can stop this ...
Going to have to make a large class of Sgts for this squad policing to work. Sgts are very short. A class will be made soon
This will never work. 15 barely has enough people to fill the beats. You have 99 cars sitting on fixed posts watching dope sales. Sounds like another great way to get officers hurt.
Reverend Phleger doesn't know what he want. Speaking out of both sides of his mouth confuses him.
The only sure way to prevent someone from (re-)murdering and (re-)raping is to kill him or her.
*******I really can’t wait for the brown of the black and brown people to get disgusted and distance themselves from this BS. Brown people actually remind me of my own ancestry (Irish). Often criticized for their stereotypes, but ultimately hard working, moral, family oriented people who want a better life. Advice to “brown people”, back away from this shit. You’re better than that.****
I agree with you. I'm Latino, and the first time I heard the black and brown people racism argument I said to myself, don't throw me in with your bullshit. We don't share the same "history".
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You got the age and years of service, so why aren't you retired? I'm out the first day I can retire. Fuck this job.
I don't have the age, I am only 51, I need the insurance for my wife and I.
8/07/2020 06:50:00 PM
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If They would hurry up and pass the first responder “Bill “ I would fucking go in one minute
You got the age and years of service, so why aren't you retired? I'm out the first day I can retire. Fuck this job.
I don't have the age, I am only 51, I need the insurance for my wife and I.
8/07/2020 06:50:00 PM
Retire get your CDL team up with fellow retired Officers at UPS free health insurance get a teamster pension too vested after 5 years!
Retire get your CDL team up with fellow retired Officers at UPS free health insurance get a teamster pension too vested after 5 years!
Thanks that is actually very good advice. I will look into that. Fuck this city.
Anonymous said...
Retire get your CDL team up with fellow retired Officers at UPS free health insurance get a teamster pension too vested after 5 years!
Thanks that is actually very good advice. I will look into that. Fuck this city.
8/09/2020 01:12:00 AM
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You will not last a week on that job. You will regret quitting you current job. Get an advanced degree and line up another career. When you are ready to quit your current profession, you will have another profession waiting for you. By the way, the diploma mill schools will not cut it.
You will not last a week on that job. You will regret quitting you current job.
8/09/2020 12:52:00 PM
Why?
Not so, it worked great in the 70's, lots of fun, a great concept.
8/07/2020 10:53:00 PM
Then why did it last all of about 2 minutes? That 4th Sector was gone before the first contract in 1983.
They're gonna need more sgts
8/07/2020 12:09:00 AM
and a bigger boat!
Anonymous said...
You will not last a week on that job. You will regret quitting you current job.
8/09/2020 12:52:00 PM
Why?
8/10/2020 04:25:00 AM
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Your response explains it all. That is exactly "why." But I will explain it to you. After 20 years or more of sitting mostly on your behind for 8 hours a day and passing the time gossiping with the desk crew or with your clique, you are completely out of shape and one Quarter Pounder short of a hear attack. There are exceptions, some officers stay in shape and can handle a full shift of labor.
But in a delivery job, you will be working every minute, ask anyone who has worked these jobs. You will be too out of shape to handle the physical labor. And the job will not pay anywhere near half of what you are making right now. Also, the people who do the hiring are aware of these obstacles. So, you are not likely to get hired because you are bound for failure.
Your response explains it all. That is exactly "why."
8/10/2020 08:10:00 AM
I already knew why. I only asked to learn your reasoning and/or if you were a nutjob, however, you proved yourself to be sane and correct.
Had you fortified your belief from the jump, we would been spared the time and effort donated to this extended correspondence. You just threw it out there, but gave it no basis. And, don't write you figured your reasoning was obvious because it was not obvious.
Anonymous said...
Your response explains it all. That is exactly "why."
8/10/2020 08:10:00 AM
I already knew why. I only asked to learn your reasoning and/or if you were a nutjob, however, you proved yourself to be sane and correct.
Had you fortified your belief from the jump, we would been spared the time and effort donated to this extended correspondence. You just threw it out there, but gave it no basis. And, don't write you figured your reasoning was obvious because it was not obvious.
8/11/2020 12:57:00 AM
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It's nice to see that there are people on the job with some brains. I offer you a virtual beer. And here is a virtual toast.
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