Laughable "Offer"
- Chicago Police officers have waited more than three years for a new contract and the retroactive pay raise that comes with it.
The first substantive offer they got from Mayor Lori Lightfoot was hardly worth the wait, according to their fiery union president.
Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara said he stormed away from Tuesday’s long-awaited negotiating session after the mayor’s team offered his members the same 10% pay raise over four years already awarded to Chicago firefighters in exchange for higher health care contributions — but tacked on 17 pages, including 40 disciplinary reforms.
Groot's mouthpiece - scumbag lawyer Mike Frisch - wants a complete surrender by the FOP to every contractual protection negotiated over the decades, because at this point, the "leadership" of the city (democrats one and all) needs to destroy the Department on the altar of political correctness to preserve their corrupt rule.
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Labels: contract stuff, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:06 AM
192 Comments:
I hope the FOP dogs their heels in deep. Three years +....I can wait. Fuck it, and FU LL. Ill just wait longer. Just under 3 yrs to go, 28 otj. I’m not going anywhere any time soon.
The term Condescending racist B1tch is thrown around way too often. However Groot is the gold standard when it comes to that term. On a serious note, what Police Officer ever thought Groot would be a good Mayor. Her whole career has been to stick it to the Police. I'm not talking bad Cops, she hates all Cops. I know the other choice was the soda queen but really? Groot hates you because you are the Police, do not forget that.
The FOP needs to show all the money the City has given away during this "virus crisis."
Hit the medical starting tomorrow take your 3 days come back for 1 and hit it again
And keep doing it I’m starting tomorrow I swear I am let’s see who
Is tired of getting fucked
Where’s the BEEF?
Fire agreed to a 1.5% increase in retiree health insurance for those who leave between age 55-59. Went up to 3.5% from the current 2%.
CFD raises agreed to:
2017 - 1% (July 1 - 31 Dec)
2018 - 2.25%
2019 - 2.25%
2020 - 2%
2021 - 2.5%(Jan 1 - 30 June)
Speak softly and carry a big stick. It was well known this was going to happen
Good luck getting anyone to take the police test now. Then force residency and any potential candidates will go to the suburbs where they treat their police well and with no violence or forced residency. Chicago better drastically raise the pay and get rid of residency or Chicago will die. Thanks Lightfoot
Guy's I'm sorry I wasn't at the "back the Blue" rally at 016 today, "with the Wonder Dog" but Ive been very sick of Late and couldn't go.
Always know the retired guy and his family on the north end, with the big fucking highly trained German Shepard, always has your back. And again thanks for the response to the weirdo I saw walking around late at night that evening.
I hear nothing but support in 016 for the Police. Don't ever think your not supported and wanted here. All I wanted to do when I retired was forget the Police Dept. but fuck it! There are times a man must make a stand. Seeing what happened at those Loot riots just broke my heart.
Again thank you for being out there........RN and family.
Catanzara is right folks. The city is full of shit. Groot is trying to castrate the entire department. Teachers rape the taxpayers and Groot folds. Time to take this to the public.
FUCK them!
Sideways, dry, and hard.
I say take it to arbitration. "Everybody" hates froggy. "Everybody"
I've long thought(and seen) that our FOP had no sway in this shit town. Maybe this "negotiation" will show us if they carry any weight. I sure hope so, but I'm not optimistic.
This is all very sad for the future of Chicago and the honest citizens. Of course it’s very sad for the CPD but it also effects the entire city. It’s shameful that city hall hates its own police force for no reason at all.
The disciplinary reforms will be increased and the contractual protections will be reduced until morale improves. Now shut up, submit and obey.
Of course they are going to try to squeeze the juice out of you. You, the police, are what stands between a civilized, law and order society and the Democrat's goal of a cultural revolution into socialism/communism. They have to emasculate you first.
The offer is DISGUSTING!! The shit police have gone thru so far just this year and this is the thanks they receive from their IGNORANT mayor!!! How about this start with the same raise the pussbag teachers got who aren’t even teaching not reporting to a school.
The LMCC was a previous arbitration award when the city refused to allow the union to administer its own health insurance plan and now you want us- (by the way the ONLY union in the city that can negotiate its healthcare) to join this shitshow!!! And nothing offered in exchange.
Il take my chances with an arbitrator . The 3 years that the city refused to negotiate in good faith are coming back to bite them.
Compstat today, scheduled to start at 1300. We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals. Tells Lemmer something and walks out. Lemmer then announces it’s cancelled, after waiting 45 minutes. Carter can’t address the room full of people and apologize? He should return the medals he has for good manners and leadership.
Frisch's Big Boy
F/U Mike
Hit the medical starting tomorrow take your 3 days come back for 1 and hit it again
And keep doing it I’m starting tomorrow I swear I am let’s see who
Is tired of getting fucked
Go to a doctor and tell him you've been overworked and had crippling migraines. Doc will keep you out of work for 30 days. Worked for me. Very simple process without the physical therapy crap to deal with. Fuck em. Let the goofy district bosses take the calls.
This is all very sad for the future of Chicago and the honest citizens. Of course it’s very sad for the CPD but it also effects the entire city. It’s shameful that city hall hates its own police force for no reason at all.
Sad? why? Just continue to do nothing as usual. Easiest 100 plus K a year I ever made.
Threaten the alderman with nothing to back the threat with , good idea !
PEOPLE UNCLEAR ON THE CONCEPT:
First, the Minneapolis City Council says that police are the problem, and that they should be defunded.
Now that hundreds of officers have left the department in response the the Council's action, the same City Council is complaining that police aren't arresting anyone.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/minneapolis-city-council-members-complain-of-rising-crime-months-after-trying-to-defund-police-department/
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Compstat today, scheduled to start at 1300. We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals. Tells Lemmer something and walks out. Lemmer then announces it’s cancelled, after waiting 45 minutes. Carter can’t address the room full of people and apologize? He should return the medals he has for good manners and leadership.
9/17/2020 03:29:00 AM
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I heard he even had the gall to cropdust as he walked out, is that true?
My neighbor works at R & D in headquarters.......
But has been assigned to the street during the BLM protests.
When returning to HQ found a request in piles of crap paper from some command staff
Asking for CPD development of a new Award Ribbon...........
For facing the adversity of recent 2020 COVID-19 along with Protesters!
We get a ribbon, and no pay!
They will probably make us pay for the ribbon!
And it will just add to the crap Carter wears.....
One word...residency.
Just watch the aldermen secretly vote themselves a nice raise whenever they can. Then, they will vote to increase the mayor’s salary. Police deserve what teachers settled for or what aldermen are going to get in their next raise.
So what's our best case scenario now?
If Lori wants to take away all of our protections and this is going to arbitration, what is the best scenario for us?
I'm assuming arbitration is always a give and take which would mean we're giving up something. What would we give up? What can we honestly expect for this contract to look like now?
Anonymous said...
Compstat today, scheduled to start at 1300. We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals. Tells Lemmer something and walks out. Lemmer then announces it’s cancelled, after waiting 45 minutes. Carter can’t address the room full of people and apologize? He should return the medals he has for good manners and leadership.
What the fuck do you care?? You are being paid to be there, so you sat around for 45 minutes getting paid, seems pretty good to me.
Laughable will be what the financial package will be if it goes to arbitration. The city can cry poor this time and mean it due to covid. Arbitrator will side with the city in regards to the raise no matter what.
Stop writing movers and Parkers !! Alittle solidarity can have huge rewards.
What's going on with the retirees medical suit?
Focus contract negotiations to healthcare, raises, and residency.
What Richard Nixon said about John Kerry applies to Mike
Frisch. "I think he has political ambitions."
Frisch is already castrated. He got fitted for prosthetic balls
long before he entered law school. He's a fucking paper kite.
Ask Mike if he did any house sitting during Groot's vacation.
The “Me Too” clause isn’t helping us either. All these people that have it (fire ,Sgt union, I believe the lieutenant’s union ) folded leaving the FOP at the frontlines hoping the grunts win the war for them not realizing (or realizing )that they set the bar for negotiations even for arbitration. So forget you too!
Correct me if I’m wrong. Didn’t the alderman vote 7-8 years back that people who file a complaint against them have to sign an affidavit? They said that the affidavit protects them from fraudulent complaints.
2 can play: Pass the hat to fill the arb's envelope.
C-note each gets them the $1.3 they seek.
Stay strong, John C.
No concessions on anything.
You have the member's support.
This is something all the officers hired in the past ten years should look at, This is what your city is going to do to you if you guys and gals cave into and give up with this administration. I'm on the way out the door, and will retire before they can change my benefits. Yes they will do as always and wave a check in front of your face saying here it is in order for you to accept the contract. Real quick, ask yourself ONE question, Do you think your job is any way more difficult than a teachers job??? If yes, don't vote for the contract. If you think your job isn't as difficult as a teachers, well, your in the wrong line of work.
We give the funny looking little bitch nothing. I voted for jcat because I knew he was going to drive her crazy. She can pout and grandstand all she wants, we will not allow protections that were fought over for decades to just be given away.
Anonymous said...
Compstat today, scheduled to start at 1300. We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals. Tells Lemmer something and walks out. Lemmer then announces it’s cancelled, after waiting 45 minutes. Carter can’t address the room full of people and apologize? He should return the medals he has for good manners and leadership.
How dare you question a man of such authority.
He proudly wears the following ribbons:
I got more rows than jimmy mrauer ribbon
I hate white people ribbon
Spanish inquisition ribbon
Never passed a promotional exam ribbon
Got my wife promoted ribbon
Maybe you guys should go on strike starting with those assigned to the trolls block. Whatever happens, happens. It's not like anyone has allowed you to actually do your jobs - you get all the risk and no authority to even protect yourselves. These Democratic Mayors are a disgrace.
Arbitration is the only way to go.
Now I am the hunted one.
-Mike Frisch
I thought Lemmer retired?
Well, you know whose side the media is on:
Fiery president
Stormed out
Why do you think that "hard hitting" media piece about most of the murder victims being POC just came out? Cops can't protect POC or, won't protect them
I’m willing to wait as long as necessary to get a great, not fair contract. Don’t need the raise anyways. Just nice to have.
Lori is a racist scum who hates police of all colors. She has destroyed chicago. Thanks again to RINO Lausch and Joyce for getting her elected. When is Madigan getting indicted? Why the delay? Did he get a cal from senile joe and racist Harris to wait? Probably.
CPD needs to strike.
How’s does this offer compare to Sgt’s and Lt’s and CFD?
Please stop comparing CFD's contract to the CPD's. Their job is totally different and it's not in your best interest. Yes, the CFD is at times more labor- intensive, but they have much down time to eat, nap, play bean bags, watch tv and perform janitorial duties. They're not out there fighting with offenders, chasing leads, working 12 hour days with no bathroom breaks and constantly being subject to CR's by community members looking for their payday. Just because they too, are public servants doesn't mean the work is equal.
“... We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals....”
Such a goof
Fight to the death because this will ripple across law enforcement and it will be the end! Police Officers need to become more involved with the political process and they need to make the FOP stronger to lobby the law & order agenda that this city, county & state so desperately need to survive! First up on the agenda should be a recall process laid out to rid the state of the scum who has destroyed it for the last 40 years and continues to cause it to circle the drain! Politicians, SERIOUSLY, need to be given death sentences for their incompetency, thievery and greed!
No contract = No peace
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12:11AM.....
Lightfoot is the result of having 23 people in the race.
Nobody thought she was a good choice, but Prickwrinkle was worse because she is stronger and hates you just as much.
Remember, the goal in Round #1 was to defeat Daley, whose sole goal was to bust the pensions. No pension, no escape from Chiraq.
I voted for Chico. I figured him or Vallas would be the most benign and reasonable.
I voted for Frogpuss in Round #2 (see line#2).
Just goes to show that the left can do what ever they want to the police because they know we cannot strike.Teachers get 16% but we are should considered a contract for 10%why because we cannot strike. If she want to break the union than the police will strike because we have nothing to lose because we are already second class citizens being stripped of any protection we have against bullshit complaints
Here's the scenario, The Police take the contract to arbitration, WIN BIG, city blames the Police for ALL the economic woes caused by the mismanagement of the present and previous 2 mayors and overpaid over represented morons of the city council!
FUCK THE democ"RATS" & ORGANIZE AND VOTE EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM OUT!!! SOCIALIST RACISTS.
Old retired guy here.
A 10% 'offer' in light of what the officers went through over this last summer is despicable. Despite being worked relentlessly and deliberately provoked there were no embarrassing overreactions on the police's part.
The police performed superbly over the years.
The fn bitch can't even acknowledge that with a thank you.
Groot has an obvious all consuming hatred of the police.
There is no reason to build a new training center. No one is ever going to want to come on this department again.
Great to finally see a union that has the best interest of it's member's, haven't see that in 10 years.
Anonymous said...
Compstat today, scheduled to start at 1300. We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals. Tells Lemmer something and walks out. Lemmer then announces it’s cancelled, after waiting 45 minutes. Carter can’t address the room full of people and apologize? He should return the medals he has for good manners and leadership.
9/17/2020 03:29:00 AM
He must have heard the dollar store had another sale on the Spanish medals...
Stop calling them democrats. They are, in fact, communists.
I cant say that I am surprised. Neither should anyone else be. We all knew that if Littlefoot took office the police were going to be in her sights. She loathes the police. I support JCAT fully here, and hope that the majority of the members do as well. Now it is time to make a stand vs. the city. They can not have their cake and eat it too. Littlefoot and her "SS" guard around her house is an injustice, and need to be called out loudly. Lets proceed directly to Go, and request arbitration. The mayor needs a spanking here, and we all know it. We can do better than 10 percent here, and an arbitrator is less likely to make concessions hard won in the past.
Difficult for the city to claim they're broke when they turn down $300,000 for an old Firehouse and instead take a $1 offer. That doesn't pass the smell test who's getting kickbacks on that offer.
The more I read about this guy Mike Frisch the more I hate
him. He gets his kicks from screwing honest hardworking
people. And he appears to enjoy his job. Sick.
It's a negotiation tactic. Just like any other labor union contract. There is no reason the city should settle when it can let the arbitrator make all the tough decisions and take the responsibility for them. Those doing the negotiating for the city likely do not care much one way or the other about cops or their issues, nor should they. It is the FOP's job to represent the interests of its members in this negotiation, not the city.
JCat This is definitely getting worse what a slap in the face this mayor and her crew of nincompoops to put it nicely, they see the cities growing broke but the mayor is giving out hundreds of millions of dollars to different communities to different things she wants to! Let them go bankrupt but then open the books for that forensic audit which is desperately needed!
If the bosses had our backs they’d have a super bid for 300 bodies to 016,022,018 and 001. Removing 1,200 bodies from districts that don’t want police and sending them where they’re wanted would shut up the defund crowd and the South and Westside activists would be destroyed by their residents.
If it wasn't for Groot, Mike Frisch would be working for
Schlipp & Faul, LLC, Attorneys at Law.
Dig in John Don't give in !!
12:22 AM
CFD & CTA got the BEEF.
We got fish heads and rice.
Groot has lost control of the city. With nearly 600 murders and over 3000 shootings so far this year the vindictive and punishing midget wants the negotiations to go away quickly to show she's in charge and things are getting better. Tell the midget to pound sand. Let her stew in her own stinky Depends.
Laughable and grossly insulting.
Working for a chronically tardy, absent, twitchy, moody, constipated, bipolar imbecile has to have plenty of like minded people in order to do her bidding. And Larri didn’t even show up? She doesn’t ever put in a full day, even when City Hall was fully open before March’s Covid Loc’t down.
Limiting retro pay? Is that nuts or what. We had to class action sue Rahm when he withheld paying wage increases on overtime for the last retroactive wage increase (2012-17), correct me if I’m wrong, something I think FOP agreed to
There a different FOP sheriff in town and he’s no pushover.
I’m glad JCat walked out. He had plenty to say and the media actually printed it.
FU
L L
Give us A right to Strike clause and then bend the city over.
Cryptic Lipstick. Groot's Kiss Of Death.
You are going to lose more in the next contract!
The only thing you will get is Retro, which is money that is owed to you anyways.
So why hurry up and sign a contract that is going to strip you of your protections and also cost more in health insurance when you retire?
Home values are sinking. Fight for residency so we can sell before it's too late.
MOVING FORWARD:
Remember a union is only as strong, as it's individual members, are prepared to be.
FOP Lodge 7, can only achieve what it's member's are willing to "Demand" and "Fight" for.
"There are plenty of guys, that will stand, "In Line", to accept the benefits their union got for them, but not many guys will, show up, to "Stand On The Line" to get them" !
Jimmy Hoffa
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Compstat today, scheduled to start at 1300. We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals. Tells Lemmer something and walks out. Lemmer then announces it’s cancelled, after waiting 45 minutes. Carter can’t address the room full of people and apologize? He should return the medals he has for good manners and leadership.
9/17/2020 03:29:00 AM
He was out of breath from lugging all of those awards around.
Criminals get better treatment than us.
Stop with the residency crap! Every city employee has to live in Chicago, even the teachers. Some teachers were grandfathered in from when there was no residency for teachers, but it’s been the rule for years for new teachers. I’ve heard “residency” for over 25 years and it never happened and it never will happen. There are about 45,000 total city employees that must live in Chicago and buy city stickers. Most city employees own own more then one type of vehicle, but let’s assume each owns just 1 vehicle. City stickers for motorcycles are $48, passenger cars are $91, large passenger vehicles are $145, pickup trucks like F150 are $213. Do the math. Conservatively, the city gets back 5 million dollars of the money it pays its employees in salaries through city stickers. Not to mention all the other fees or taxes the city gets back from employees.
We should get more than the teachers.
Il take my chances with an arbitrator . The 3 years that the city refused to negotiate in good faith are coming back to bite them.
Sure hope it works out for us but with our supervisors and CFD ratifying their contracts it sure didn’t help
Time for arbitration.
The city can propose all they want in trying to diminish the provisions in the CBA that protect you. That can scream and stamp their feet all they want in trying to reduce, or eliminate these negotiated rights. These rights can only be negotiated away, NOT TAKEN! They are not part of a memorandum of understanding that can be modified later, or eliminated by one side, or the other, or both. They are an essential part of your CBA. These protections/provisions were negotiated in good faith by both sides, and agreed upon by both sides. Because one side now wants a change to what they formally agreed to, doesn't mean shit. In order for these previously bargained rights to be eliminated, or modified, FOP has to agree to it. FUCK groot and her cadre. Do not even think of eliminating, or modifying the articles and sections of the contract that protect you from the scumbags that you have to deal with, and the political hack bosses (most, not all) that will submit to the whims of their masters. Don't be foolish and give away rights for more money, or even residency. These rights keep you from being owned, and easily terminated. The membership has to keep J-Cat, FOP officers, the FOP board, and FOP's negotiating team's feet to the fire. I'm a retired patrolman (30+ OTJ), and trust me, the retiree's are behind you. If one, or a thousand plus of you are thinking of some sort of job action, be smart about it. You want to keep the public on your side, and truly, most are on your side. Fuck with the system that groot has to manage. Be a bad-will ambassador for bug-eyes. Inform the public of how things truly are. Use your contract, and benefits (big hint) to benefit you, and punish the city. Work smart, stay safe, go to a few fop meetings each year and stay informed, learn your contract (read the F-----g book!), and God bless you all. Thank you SCC.
"If only you "BRUTAL," "RACIST" Mt. Greenwood and Edison Pk.
conservative echo-chamber and reactionary dog-whistle blowing
enclaves, would just give up and accept "Police Reform and
Accountability," "Community Justice" and stop asking for what
the teachers got and humbly accept Mayor Lightfoot's "generous"
contract; we could be well on the way of fixing all that's
wrong with Chicago..."
...Is what the general public honestly and truly believes.
Heh... the so called "Silent Majority" constantly popping
off on the blog, (nothing more than city hall, local media
and community group trolls and agit-prop provocateurs/
saboteurs) are 20 years too late to "support"
The Police.
They should have started making noise when
Shortshanks was in the big chair.
Now we have the consecutive 3rd of a series
of malignant, malicious and evil midgets
running this city into the ground.
Thank You.
Thank You All...
Thank You All So Very Much...
Enjoy your ever increasing likelihood of
a life-altering encounter with Dude Inc.
now that you've have a hand in driving
The Police, Policing, Public Order,
Public Peace and Public Safety
into being a mere fond memory.
Remember...
Dude Inc. has rather loudly proclaimed
that if "they" can't have peace and safety,
neither will YOU.
As for The Police?
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Enjoy being beaten like rented mules.
Enjoy Groot's 10% sandbag of an offer.
Teachers get 16% and an extended stay-cation.
No help is coming... There is zero political
benefit in the Police getting help.
If help actually does come, it will be
from insignificant to a way too late half-measure.
You know... "Busyness..."
Elbows, shoe soles and assholes
going in all kinds of directions
but ain't SHIT gettin' done.
Therefore?
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Somewhat on topic. Naperville PD just announced that they'll soon be taking applications from experienced LEOs only. This would be a good opportunity for CPD LEOs to get out of CPD.
Larry hates the police so much then he should lift residency, then her constituents can move in.
OT. Who the fuck is running this department? There has always been a certain level of incompetence in the upper ranks but this is the worst its ever been. Just the blatant ignorance and lack of police knowledge and the merit promotions of complete morons is through the roof. Also who is running the training for this shit hole? Work 16 days in a row, days off cancelled finally get my RDO's which did shit for recuperation. Go back to work, try to get back in a routine then told I have training at 0600 at some south side shit hole. Then I have to double back the night of training because I work 1st watch. Same for the next 2 weeks with custodial, use of force, officer well being etc.. Have training on the watches, have these dog ass fucking 5 year wonder pukes who are teaching this shit work 1st watch or whatever watch to accommodate the officers. Instead of fucking up the district schedules and everyone's life have training according to watch times. I know that makes too much sense and the marshmallows "in charge" have their heads too far up their asses to even know what time of days it is.
Fun fact: Adam Schiff's great uncle Jacob Schiff financed Trotskii (Antony Sutton "Wall Street and The Bolshevik Revolution") who crisscrossed Russia on the personal armored train to whip up communist fighters in the Russian Civil War after the Bolshevik power grab in 1917. The same banks that financed slave trade financed the two Russian Revolutions (J P Morgan).
Jacob Schiff was a Bolshevik who gave Lenin millions of Dollars.
On July 17,1918 Lenin ordered his CHEKA goons to "take care"of the sweet, helpless Czar family in the awful cellar in the Ipatiev House.
I saw the crime photos and they look terrible.
Are Biden/Harris/Obama/Moochie and Hillary modern, evil Leninists
Most BLM bums are on Welfare. They sell drugs and have crime sheets one mile long.
George Floyd spent five years in a Houston Prison for armed robbery.
If we were sitting in a parked car in Compton, would a BLM bum walk up and shoot us in the head?
there are reports flitering out that George Floyd tried to throw a bag of white powder at the cop as they were approaching him. Which means he likely was high, maybe even on Fentanyl, which could restrict your breathing.
Soror is not allowed in some countries! But he sure has gained his place of honor in the US.
I wish they and perhaps Rush Limbaugh would form their own Cable News Network. It would leave Fox and all the rest in the dust.
Yesterday, the same day this awkwardness happened, Tucker literally said with vehemence "Fox News believes in telling the truth and we will always do so!" You be the judge. It sounds like shilling to me.
I used to work in Construction.
I never voted for Hillary, pervert Billy. Muslim Obama or Moochie in my life.
I would not vote for communist Bernie/Biden or Kamala who slept her way to the top with her legs up.
Fox anchors didn't lie, they didn't want to talk about Soros. In my view there's something fishy about it plus their actions were disrespectful to Newt.
The current social disruption is being brought to us by MSM, and political activists on both sides of the isle. It's interesting that no one is really trying to put a serious end to the goings on. Scary.
Derelict Mayor
demand same pay as CTU , they work from home . Don't want to die from covid19
CPD risks covid19 , also attacks by people with knives , guns , bricks , spears and that 1/2 man 1/2 woman light head offer 10% F U LL
I realized that Fauci was a fraud when I saw him on a Senate hearing and one of the senators asked him straight out of the box "Do the protests spread Coronavirus." Fauci started stumbling and fumbling with his answer and asking "What do you mean." He kept coming back and still he did not answer the question because this esteemed doctor did not want to criticize BLM and rioters. He is a politician, been in Washington and several administrations for over 25 years. He is part of the swamp that Trump wants to drain. Same thing with Redfield. They are afraid of Trump and if he wins he is going to get General Flynn back in the White House and he is going to have some payback.
They are afraid of this scenario. Obama's legacy is one the line and all that money the Democrats have been skimming off the government for years are going to be tracked down and exposed.
COVID is a scam, look at the first coronavirus bill, what was at the top of list from Pelosi, 150 million dollars for mail in voting. Remember this is March.
So here we are, Sept. 17, and they have pushed through the mail in fraud without any oversight and just mailing out ballots to anyone and everyone. All the social media sights promoting it, celebrities, Obama's etc., because it is the only way that they can win. China has funneled millions of dollars to the DNC.
So the Democrats knew back in February they would need to milk this pandemic until election day to justify their hysteria over Covid. The Democratic governors received the memo and they imposed the draconian measures on their citizens.
Wait for the big uptick in Covid numbers coming at the beginning of October with nobody even checking the validity of the data.
You are a fool if you vote for a democrat. Hate Trump all you want and yea he says shit that offends people but so what. He believes in America and democracy and he has been battling the Democratic Machine for 4 years and look how much he has accomplished.
Vote in Person, don't waste your vote.
Every contract with city is garbage.. been like that went I got on and retired from that shithole
And then you have bullshit like this on WLS-AM last night. - (Taken from FB)
So last night listing to Big John Howell on WLS, John Dempsey comes on and does his news bit. Part of the news, was that the Chicago FOP, endorsed Willy Wilson for Senate and not Mark Curran.
John Howell asks him why he thinks that is, that they did that, and Dempsey replies “well, because they’re racist.”
The conversation went on, but I stopped paying attention to them. I was too pissed. In this day and age of “shoot cops just because”, for a fucking low-life radio-news guy to say something like that, IN CHICAGO, I feel was dangerous, stupid, reckless and uncalled for.
Do me a favor if you agree with me, and go to WLS-AM 890 FB Page and let them know.
He was already just painful to listen to. Now I won’t even.
Feel free to share.
The public needs to know the work schedules , the public needs to know days off cancelled . The public needs to see body cam from the " community" interactions . This is totally a propaganda war nothing else. Fund the correct candidates , inform and educate the general public . The story sells itself. Look at how quickly the story change at the "statue"
Remember they said if you are maxed at 29 and a day you wouldn’t have to be 55 years old to get the medical at 3.5%. What are we doing about this. If the city wants P.O’s to retire this will do it.
I thought Lemmer was gone, Carter attitude does not surprise me.
wait for Pritzker and Cuomo and the other Democratic governors jump in on this voting scam like they did in Pennsylvania (battleground state) where you can vote 3 days after November 4 to cast your ballot. Might need a state or two to tip the scales after the votes have been counted.
This is not America.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/17/pennsylvania-supreme-court-sides-with-democrats-mail-in-ballot-deadline-extended-3-days-after-election/
Vote Republican Mayor time!!!
847 CPD vacancies under microscope to chip away at $1.25 billion city budget shortfall
https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2020/9/17/21443959/chicago-police-847-vacancies-city-budget-cuts-billion-shortfall
Carter is a complete dumbass. He is gonna cost $$$$ with the bs he is pulling with the k9 list. Promoting guys off the street dog list to explosivies k9 because the explosives k9 list has run out of people.
Fuck that. Cantanzara stand tall this city needs us more than we need them. 10% is a fucking joke after the dips got teachers got 16%
Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, think about it for a moment. If CPD goes down so does EVERYBODY else, INCLUDING the
democratic politicians who have brought us to this magnificent point in our careers🙂. WE can always reinvent ourselves but they CAN NOT. "Survival of the fittest" And that folks,would be a sight for sore eyes. GOD BLESS CPD ALWAYS💙
Anonymous said...
Catanzara is right folks. The city is full of shit. Groot is trying to castrate the entire department. Teachers rape the taxpayers and Groot folds. Time to take this to the public.
9/17/2020 01:07:00 AM
The teachers have the backing of the media and most parents. The parents need the kids in school so they can work. It is always " for the children" Tax increases every year, spending more per child then most private schools, with no results to show for the money. Washington DC schools spend 30 grand per student and very few are up to par in math and reading and English. The unions protect the worst of them and the mayor never says she is out to break that union or add more disciplinary measures.
Just give us what the teachers got that’s FAIR!
I'm retired. Worked union my whole life. We did very good in the mid-80's.
Of the belief Reagan f'ed all unions with the air traffic controllers.
The company went from 3-6 year contracts.
They just settled 2 1/2 years and go into another contact in 6 months. (3 year contract) Glad I'm gone!
They hired you just to F with you and F with you and F with you some more!
STAND YOUR GROUND! F THEM. YOU/Those before you did not negotiate only the have it tossed. They can say all they want. They need you!
Ask your mayor who's was watching her house. Rent-a-cops don't work.
The people coming in are duds (the pic with the cop kneeling earlier this summer) and you'll never get this chance again.
If they have money for CPS, CTA & other mismanaged entities, they have money for you! Grit your teeth. Be/stay fetal.
In my own way, I gave my employer the bare bones, minimum nothing, and I mean nothing! Was always wrong, always second guessed, and I was a damn good employee.
The beat a lot of weaker people down.
I retired with a good pension/health/dental and some of those people who wrote me up are still there. F 'EM! ...and I never made employee of the month! ;)
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
Enclosed is the link to all the DA's George Soros has pumped money in to getting elected. 2 million for Kim Foxx alone. And you wonder why Democratic cities are under seige, look no further.
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1306345621549387781
What did you expect from a mayor who does not need any police department?
But cries the first time the Citizens march on her front door!
One time Mayor and a loser to boot.........unless the Democrats pay to keep her!
Anything other than residency is a laughable offer.
Trump needs to replace Chicagos us attorney. Lausch is too tight with Lightfoot. I don't trust neither of them. Lausch is not moving any mountains with all the corrupt Chicago politicians.
I feel awful for all of the officers particularly those that have less than five years. Your in for a long challenging ride. Take advantage of the tuition reimbursement and find another career, even any of the Feds if you want to stay in LE. It’s going to be a long time before we get support. Bless you all.
Wow. Democrats claim to be pro-union, but every time a contract is up, they want to give the unions nothing. Wake up and stop voting Democrat.
he city can propose all they want in trying to diminish the provisions in the CBA that protect you. That can scream and stamp their feet all they want in trying to reduce, or eliminate these negotiated rights. These rights can only be negotiated away, NOT TAKEN!
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That is not true, a contract can be void for public policy reasons usually due to the contract provision conflicting with state law. Hence, the legislative attacks on contracts. Also, police officer could just lose the right to bargain in Illinois. I do remember when the sworn affidavit law took effect and the City filed an unfair labor practice to force the union to negotiation with them and not use the legislator as a back door. So many items in the contract were bargained for a the parties each gave something up in return. If the City wants the benefit of the bargain they should name a price.
These battles are being fought at the legislator...
Anonymous said...
Anything other than residency is a laughable offer.
9/17/2020 04:45:00 PM
Then laugh your way out to the suburbs, Harvey is hiring.
Looks and sounds like Larri 2 Leftfeet has sic’ed her “peaceful protesters-rioters-looters” loose on CPD HQ railing about the police contract.
The “Me Too” clause isn’t helping us either. All these people that have it (fire ,Sgt union, I believe the lieutenant’s union ) folded leaving the FOP at the frontlines hoping the grunts win the war for them not realizing (or realizing )that they set the bar for negotiations even for arbitration. So forget you too!
The sgts union did not fold. The arbiter basically said numerous times that offer he would give would be worse than what the City offered. No shit! I am beginning to think arbitration is a rigged game.
Now, the department will be grabbing at least 10 POs per district for its new program, the Community Safety Team which will detail officers for at least 90 days.
All districts are already sending units to downtown, in addition, other districts also need units detailed by the lake.
Multiple units are 99 on midnights with both wagons down. This is unsafe and unsustainable. Around the nation, officers are being ambushed, shot at, stabbed, run over, and poisoned. Moondog Brown is truly incompetent and does not deserve to lead this department.
This city gets worse and worse, no one will take this job. I just read an article from the ScumTimes saying we have 847 police officer vacancies? Yeah... only 90 hires this year as sworn PO's, good luck trying to fill the rank and file with the "I hate the police, defund the police, don't support the police, strip them of money and their resources." Keep doing that hood trash Lori, dog circus Brown(hiding under the community policing idea that will stop these murders/shootings/lootings/etc). Most out of touch idiots in this command staff and city.
The public does not care. We are seen as fat, lazy racists.
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The public needs to know the work schedules , the public needs to know days off cancelled . The public needs to see body cam from the " community" interactions . This is totally a propaganda war nothing else. Fund the correct candidates , inform and educate the general public . The story sells itself. Look at how quickly the story change at the "statue"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is something all the officers hired in the past ten years should look at, This is what your city is going to do to you if you guys and gals cave into and give up with this administration. I'm on the way out the door, and will retire before they can change my benefits. Yes they will do as always and wave a check in front of your face saying here it is in order for you to accept the contract. Real quick, ask yourself ONE question, Do you think your job is any way more difficult than a teachers job??? If yes, don't vote for the contract. If you think your job isn't as difficult as a teachers, well, your in the wrong line of work.
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What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
10% raise. Take it.
Tough times.
Communists who have been running big cities have made sure that blacks in their inner city schools have received no education to speak of that they could build their thought process and lives on. "The worse, the better" is an old Marxist slogan (Chernyshevsky) Have to get the riots started somehow! Communists are a special kind of racists, they hate whites AND blacks.
Americans of every race who prefer Law & Order over Democrat anarchy should VOTE REPUBLICAN!
TRUMP 2002! Vote in Person.
Other than politicians with private security guards, wealthy "celebrities" living in gated communities and street criminals, who else would support the idiocy of defunding/abolishing law enforcement?
Most humans possess the basic need to keep themselves and their families safe. The Democrat Socialists are either unaware of that fact or they don't care. They are clearly pandering to the criminal element, and this has prompted normal Americans of all backgrounds and races to take their safety into consideration and they will cast their votes for Republicans.
#BLEXIT/Trump/Pence/House Senate 2020!
Traditional Democrat voters realize that the party is far from it's traditions. They don't like anti-police violence and anti-American attitudes. They like Trump style prosperity and security. It's hard for them to vote Republican for the first time. Instead, offer them the Trump America First deal that includes prosperity, law and order, and respect for religion, patriotism, and tradition values that they agree with.
Trump 2020! America First Forever!
Trump, Senate, and the House of Representatives, please! For the survival of the greatest form of the ever conceived on this planet!
I think that November 3d will show that there has been a big shift toward sanity in many unexpected places.
Attacks on police is a classic communist assault. Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote in his book "Two Hundred Years Together" that Bolsheviks staged widespread attacks against police in the run up to the October Revolution.
There must be a reason why this book has not been published in English. Deja vu all over again.
The Communist Control Act of 1954 has to be revisited
Well if these people want more police protection, they should get off the couch and stand up for America and the police who keep her safe. Don't take this sitting down, it is time to stand up to these thugs. Trump 2020
A good ass kicking is good for Chicago. The word will spread among those punks Getting your Ass kicked hurts. It should soon stop if the Cops react the way we want them too!!
To the poster at 1130. I retired and have openly refused to buy a city vehicle sticker for my 3 registered cars. This city still owes me back pay. Fuck groot,I will not buy another sticker as long as the city drags its ass in negotiations.
But many of us thought communism was dead when the Berlin Wall came down. Somehow it keeps rearing its ugly head. I don't think liberalism will ever run its course as long as politicians can buy votes by creating government dependence. Chicago just keeps giving away COVID money to buy votes and Jabba says we are out of money.
Progressivism has failed! Real liberalism flourishes with the Republicans! People of all colors want safety and security and that means supporting the police. Dump Foxx in November
Even for commies I can't believe they would be that stupid and I think there is something else in the works we haven't thought of yet. Like perhaps those areas that have become devoid of police can now be easily controlled at the voting polls down to the point of who is allowed to vote or some other nefarious BS?
There is something bigger going on and these riots are just a distraction. Except more illegal things to happen at the polling stations on November 3rd. The DemoRats will do anything to win.
The people have the power in their own hands to control their own streets, lets see what happens in about 50 days!
We love police forces the same as soldiers.
OT. Attorney and P.O L. Aguirre needs to shut his Trump bashing and his support of BLM. He is a typical politician as well. He’s barely got time on the job and he’s telling war stories on WLS Talk Radio 890am. He is a pro-Democrat who shows his anti police sentiment regularly.
The numbers:
3,029 SHOT as of today
516 DEAD from gunshots as f today
50 DEAD by other homicidal violence as of today
Victims: overwhelmingly POC
Offenders: overwhelmingly POC
Let it go to arbitration......and let’s hope DUDE’s shooting proficiency improves
(And off topic.....check out Nashville mayor totally lying about coronavirus numbers to keep city closed down, taxes up 34%)
(As well as the LA commissioner saying schools may not open til after the election)
100% fault of the weak FOP over the last three years. They waited and now the political climate is so negative that it wouldn’t matter who the mayor is, the police are going to get gutted by fewer positions, anemic pay increases, and unfair discipline procedures. If this was settled two years ago like it should have been, we would have been okay and actually when the contract would have expired a year from now, we would be in a position of strength due to dealing with the rioters. FOP was trash and not we are fucked no matter what.
RINO Lausch is a Beverly democrat who is totally tied to lori. He planned the Burke fake indictment on the orders of Lori to take out Preckwinkle, Daley and Mendoza. Burke will never serve a second. Lori also used ahole Joyce, Goofioretti, slimy Chico and the other fuckibg losers to win and now she has totally destroyed Chicago with her support of the domestic terrorist blm Marxist organization. That’s why Chicago is ruined permanently.
Anonymous said...
847 CPD vacancies under microscope to chip away at $1.25 billion city budget shortfall
https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2020/9/17/21443959/chicago-police-847-vacancies-city-budget-cuts-billion-shortfall
9/17/2020 02:39:00 PM
But no downsizing with CPS? Schools are empty and enrollment has plummeted. Lightfoot should start with the CTU and the SEIU. And why are we paying security, janitors etc to work in empty schools??? Crazy
https://www.chicagolawyermagazine.com/cl1219personoftheyear-20191206
"During the teachers’ strike specifically, Frisch saw Lightfoot use her “no nonsense, straightforward approach that she takes to both legal cases and negotiations.”
He said when an independent fact-finder determined a 16% raise was appropriate for the teachers Lightfoot and her bargaining team ultimately decided to bring that number to the table instead of starting somewhere lower because she knew it was the right thing to do.
“She’s not one for playing games or for considering the political ramifications of something when she sees something that is right,” he said."
Can CPD get a 'independent fact-finder' come up with a appropriate number? I wonder what percentage would be recommended for us 🤔
Anonymous said...
Home values are sinking. Fight for residency so we can sell before it's too late.
9/17/2020 10:51:00 AM
Why can’t you sell? There’s nothing saying you have to own property in Chicago or saying you can’t sell once you own. Sell and rent unit you find another job.
Larry hates the police so much then he should lift residency, then her constituents can move in.
9/17/2020 12:31:00 PM
If he were ever to rescind residency, it would include a mandate that he gets to be the first to go before anyone else gets to go. He would crap his pants if he had to stay with his constituents while city workers were "jetting" out of Chiraq. He is a real bitch to people who play by the rules, but underneath, he is scared of his own people who have no respect for law and order. He knows they would eat him alive.
Revealed: 'Trained Marxist' Black Lives Matter co-founder is being funded by group linked to the Chinese Communist Party
* BLM co-founder Alicia Garza, 39, is the principal of Black Futures Lab, an advocacy group for black people
* The group is financially supported by the Chinese Progressive Association, it has been revealed
*Its donate button links directly to the CPA site
* The CPA was founded in San Francisco in 1972 and has held events with and in support of the Chinese Communist government
* Garza has previously been described as a 'trained Marxist'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8745459/Black-Lives-Matter-founder-leading-initiative-funded-pro-Chinese-Communist-Party-group.html
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anything other than residency is a laughable offer.
9/17/2020 04:45:00 PM
Hate to burst your bubble but the city didn’t offer it and the FOP plans to only respond with a counter offer on financials which will then inturn send the whole package to arbitration when the city turns down the counter offer because the sgts, Lts, captains and Fire already set precedent with the same payment package. The arbitrator can’t rule on something that isn’t being asked. Sorry, better pray this dump we call 016 can hold out another 4-7 years before it becomes Sineloa by the time the next contract gets fully settled.
This city is a joke, we have a dumb ass mayor, a dumb ass superintendent, a dumb ass first deputy superintendent, a dumb ass deputy superintendent and the list can go and go. This city and the police department is totally destroyed. There is no turning back, the mayor continues to hire all these civilian bosses for the police department, this whack job have so many bosses in the same unit and say she may not fill jobs on the police department, how about getting rid of all not needed civilian bosses/positions. They bring nothing to the table, they are a joke just like you. To the superintendent, you got you new unit, you have 50 or more shooting a week now you want more people for what?, I guess the 900 people you have between your three new units is still not enough, fuck the districts, fuck the safety, fuck everything, fuck you and Lori. Once again, you all destroyed this city. To the 1st you are an idiot, you have no people skills and frankly do not know what the hell you are doing and have the nerves to be an arrogant asshole. Realize this everything that is wrong with department comes back to you and the other bullies. Taking everybody out of district is a clear sign, you all do not care about the district, the community or the safety of the staff that work in these districts. That shit is not working, the results show that, you stats, the real stats do not lie. The best thing you could have done was do some research and see what really made the old units you recreated work in the past. When are you all going to realize the people you taking advice from is not the person you need to be listening to, when? Last but not least, ds west, you are not the best, you suck in every way possible. Just evil. I could write a book on all the b.s. about you. F U too.
Don't even bother with arbitration. Keep it as is . yes, we won't get paid a raise, but our mayor can't be "the reformer". Don't budge on disipline. If you go to arbitration the city will win on every disciplinary matter ( they have in past in arbitration). We are going to get burned with this administration & arbitrator. Hold out for three more years. I call it, if the Union goes to arbitration 8% raise for 4 years & 2 percent a year , so there will be a retro check, but a 1.5% raise in health care & all the city wants in disipline - don't do it.
100% fault of the weak FOP over the last three years. They waited and now the political climate is so negative that it wouldn’t matter who the mayor is, the police are going to get gutted by fewer positions, anemic pay increases, and unfair discipline
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all true, except you forgot Rahm gave up on negotiations, pushed it off until the new admin showed up.
Just got an official looking letter in the mail from Jesse White secretary of state what the fuck is this? A license suspension maybe something about plates, opened it up what did I find a letter signed by the secretary of state saying I was receiving mail that I should request a mail in ballot and I never sent it back and he is telling me I should request a mail in ballot yeah looks like a Fixes in right Democrats!
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
All he said was to vote no for this contract that the city is offering. What was the reason for the insult ?
You don't defund Chiraq. Chiraq defunds you.
Spike Lee
FOP was trash and not we are fucked no matter what.
9/17/2020 08:20:00 PM
You are a stupid, stupid person. The FOP was ready to go. The city did everything to elongate the process. The FOP could not put a gun to their heads and make the city representatives attend the scheduled sessions and negotiate in good fauth. Be mad at the city, not FOP. If not, you are an idiot.
A good ass kicking is good for Chicago. The word will spread among those punks Getting your Ass kicked hurts. It should soon stop if the Cops react the way we want them too!!
9/17/2020 07:51:00 PM
And when I am convicted, will you serve my prison time? Sure we would like to get things running right in Chicago, but when you have been hobbled, there is not very much one or all can do.
Anything other than residency is a laughable offer.
9/17/2020 04:45:00 PM
Officer Hyena? Start laughing. You will be laughing for a long, long time.
Do not use your personal phone for any work -related task, including entering any building for department-ordered training. (Check the admin messages)
Since when are we required to use our personal phones for work-related tasks?
And you have to do a task with your personal phone BEFORE you get to the training site. Will the department authorize overtime expenses for me to do work on my phone 15 minutes before my official start time? Once I start doing work related tasks, the work clock starts.
Are the unions asking why we are being required to use a personal phone for work ?
Don't let the department go down this slippery slope of requiring us to use our personal phones for work-related tasks. I am against using a personal phone for any task at work, including making notifications. Call from a pax. Call from the station. Or use a department phone the department gives you. Wait until your phone is sub poenaed for court or a lawsuit, and a whole bunch of lawyers get to see your personal stuff. If you use your phone for work-related tasks, then your phone's contents become public property and your phone can be the subject of a FOIA request.
Ask corporation counsel if you doubt this. Don't be like Hillary.
A hypothetical question -
Does residency prohibit having a second home? Hypothetically, of course, what if an officer purchased a home in the burbs for the safety and security of the family? What if that officer then sold the house in the city and rented an apartment to save on costs? What if several officers went in together to rent said apartment in the city while also having that "second home" in the burbs? What if a Whole Lot of Officers went in together on that apartment (making the rent a pittance) and chose to spend all their off time in their second homes? Hypothetically, of course.
How can anyone prove that a second home in the suburbs is the officers' primary residence? Hell, seems to me that their primary residence is the squad car (definitely in city limits) -
Just wondering for no reason... F U L L
If he were ever to rescind residency, it would include a mandate that he gets to be the first to go before anyone else gets to go. He would crap his pants if he had to stay with his constituents while city workers were "jetting" out of Chiraq. He is a real bitch to people who play by the rules, but underneath, he is scared of his own people who have no respect for law and order. He knows they would eat him alive.
The hood would eat that snowflake two faced POS alive and spit it out like the hoodtrash it is. He already got treated by a child on TV, i'd love a reality show where he would be forced to live there.... AH Westside Stories by Lari. lol
Residents say police are nowhere to be seen': 'Alarmed' Minneapolis City Council demands answers from its police chief over 15 percent rise in violent crime - two months after slashing his budget by $1m
A lot of the professional agitators probably went home, and the decent folk of the town are just beginning to peer outside at the results...
* Councillors expressed alarm during a Council business meeting on Tuesday
* At the meeting, they questioned Minneapolis' police Chief Medaria Arradondo
* Data shows an increase of almost 15 per cent in violent crime in 2020 from 2019
* Homicide, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, auto theft and arson are all up
* This comes after the council voted to redirect $1 million from the MPD's budget
* GOP congressional candidate Lacy Johnson slammed council as 'hypocrites'
* Council voted two months ago to amend city charter to dismantle the police
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8743923/Minneapolis-City-Council-alarmed-surge-violent-crime-two-months-cutting-police-budget.html
Anyone who says property prices are sinking is straight wrong, everything sells fast. Downtown maybe at slower rate but anything else goes fast for asking price or more. With our salary we can't afford park ridge or Northbrook ....so i don't see much of a movement even if residency gets lifted one day.
I support JCAT not taking the offer. But anyone who thought the city would just offer a financial package is an idiot. Anyone asking for a strike clause is as well. Police and fire cannot strike under IL state law.
"The federal labor law leaves to the states all questions involving the unionization of state and local government employees. The Illinois Public Labor Relations Act protects these workers' right to unionize and bargain collectively and regulates the conduct of union elections and the resolution of labor disputes. The law prohibits police officers and firefighters from engaging in a strike. "
When JCAT or anyone else asks for a strike clause they are asking for something that can't be had and showing the city they are not versed in contract negotiations. Just like we like to cite state law for affidavits, there is law agsinst strikes. The FOP should present all evidence that the city is not broke and is willing to pay out (rona money, teacher contract, other discretionary contracts,). Any asks should be phrased in the interest of the public. i.e. duty availability for all to ensure public safety at all times, tuition reimbursement for a more educated police force to better serve the public, affidavits to ensure compliance with state law and to save tax payers money from b.s. lawsuits, and so forth.
Somewhat on topic. Naperville PD just announced that they'll soon be taking applications from experienced LEOs only. This would be a good opportunity for CPD LEOs to get out of CPD.
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CPD probably not welcome. No one wants trouble and trouble follows cpd around. Might be possible though for someone who has special skills and can convince naperville they are untainted.
To the poster at 1130. I retired and have openly refused to buy a city vehicle sticker for my 3 registered cars. This city still owes me back pay. Fuck groot,I will not buy another sticker as long as the city drags its ass in negotiations.
9/17/2020 07:51:00 PM
So you are one of the flagrant violators they have been looking to find! Most everyone else complies and buys their city wheel tax sticker. You are a real renegade and you are on the finance department's wanted top 10. You best develop a 360 degree field of vision. They are coming for you. /s
Anonymous said...
Compstat today, scheduled to start at 1300. We all wait until 1345 when Carter wanders into the room with his Spanish general medals. Tells Lemmer something and walks out. Lemmer then announces it’s cancelled, after waiting 45 minutes. Carter can’t address the room full of people and apologize? He should return the medals he has for good manners and leadership.
9/17/2020 03:29:00 AM
He must have heard the dollar store had another sale on the Spanish medals...
9/17/2020 09:17:00 AM
**It's obvious Compstat is not being taken seriously!!
Vote republican.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I support JCAT not taking the offer. But anyone who thought the city would just offer a financial package is an idiot. Anyone asking for a strike clause is as well. Police and fire cannot strike under IL state law.
"The federal labor law leaves to the states all questions involving the unionization of state and local government employees. The Illinois Public Labor Relations Act protects these workers' right to unionize and bargain collectively and regulates the conduct of union elections and the resolution of labor disputes. The law prohibits police officers and firefighters from engaging in a strike. "
When JCAT or anyone else asks for a strike clause they are asking for something that can't be had and showing the city they are not versed in contract negotiations. Just like we like to cite state law for affidavits, there is law agsinst strikes. The FOP should present all evidence that the city is not broke and is willing to pay out (rona money, teacher contract, other discretionary contracts,). Any asks should be phrased in the interest of the public. i.e. duty availability for all to ensure public safety at all times, tuition reimbursement for a more educated police force to better serve the public, affidavits to ensure compliance with state law and to save tax payers money from b.s. lawsuits, and so forth.
9/18/2020 12:56:00 AM
I think I know who this is. You are a great mind when it comes to this. I wish you could have a sit down with J-Cat. Be safe Brother.
Does residency prohibit having a second home? Hypothetically, of course, what if an officer purchased a home in the burbs for the safety and security of the family? What if that officer then sold the house in the city and rented an apartment to save on costs? What if several officers went in together to rent said apartment in the city while also having that "second home" in the burbs? What if a Whole Lot of Officers went in together on that apartment (making the rent a pittance) and chose to spend all their off time in their second homes? Hypothetically, of course.
Per the paper I had to sign when I purchased my house, you can have many residences but ONLY ONE domicile. You must be domiciled in the city. If it is an obvious attempt to circumvent the ordinance it won't fly.
So you buy the outland house. Where are your cars registered? If you register them in the burbs, still need a city sticker. There would be insurance issues. What would be your voting address? What about schools for the kids?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What's going on with the retirees medical suit?
9/17/2020 07:08:00 AM
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You obviously are riding on the backs of we who send them support contributions and want to benefit from our knowledge without paying the piper. Send them some money, cheapskate, and you'll be kept in the loop via email. just as we square shooters are.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is something all the officers hired in the past ten years should look at, This is what your city is going to do to you if you guys and gals cave into and give up with this administration. I'm on the way out the door, and will retire before they can change my benefits. Yes they will do as always and wave a check in front of your face saying here it is in order for you to accept the contract. Real quick, ask yourself ONE question, Do you think your job is any way more difficult than a teachers job??? If yes, don't vote for the contract. If you think your job isn't as difficult as a teachers, well, your in the wrong line of work.
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What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Blogger katikati said...
A hypothetical question -
Does residency prohibit having a second home? Hypothetically, of course, what if an officer purchased a home in the burbs for the safety and security of the family? What if that officer then sold the house in the city and rented an apartment to save on costs? What if several officers went in together to rent said apartment in the city while also having that "second home" in the burbs? What if a Whole Lot of Officers went in together on that apartment (making the rent a pittance) and chose to spend all their off time in their second homes? Hypothetically, of course.
How can anyone prove that a second home in the suburbs is the officers' primary residence? Hell, seems to me that their primary residence is the squad car (definitely in city limits) -
Just wondering for no reason... F U L L
9/17/2020 11:24:00 PM
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My city house was 2 blocks away from my District, worked afternoons on the desk, and would leave the station, go home for 2 or 3 minutes to change out of uniform, and then drive 40 minutes to my 18 acre paradise of ponds, pines peace, and privacy. By 2300 hrs I would be in a rocking chair while enjoying a bourbon, along with a cigar, and enjoying the night air just 40 feet from the front pond. I'd have the morning there and then drive back into my city residence at about 13 hrs. That was my nightly schedule.
I always added a day to my two day weekends and spend those three days there. Each and every week, for THIRTEEN YEARS, this was schedule. By using furloughs, baby furloughs, comp time, and taking care of all medical issues I either had or could possibly foresee, I never worked a watch for the seven months of the year I retired.
Yes it can be done, and in style as well.
Anonymous said...
Don't even bother with arbitration. Keep it as is . yes, we won't get paid a raise, but our mayor can't be "the reformer". Don't budge on disipline. If you go to arbitration the city will win on every disciplinary matter ( they have in past in arbitration). We are going to get burned with this administration & arbitrator. Hold out for three more years. I call it, if the Union goes to arbitration 8% raise for 4 years & 2 percent a year , so there will be a retro check, but a 1.5% raise in health care & all the city wants in disipline - don't do it.
9/17/2020 09:29:00 PM
How soon until you retire?
Yea, I'm on to you
Residents say police are nowhere to be seen': 'Alarmed' Minneapolis City Council demands answers from its police chief over 15 percent rise in violent crime - two months after slashing his budget by $1m
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Given the total police budget is $193 million it does not seem like $1 million is going to make that much difference. Not exactly "slashing" either. Barely one half of one percent.
Somewhat on topic. Naperville PD just announced that they'll soon be taking applications from experienced LEOs only. This would be a good opportunity for CPD LEOs to get out of CPD.
I worked for NPD from '88-'91. Those that came from surrounding suburbs and got hired by Naperville were branded as having a "Cook County attitude." In other words, they were the police and Naperville didn't want any of that.
Blue Flu
Davarius Minor handed off the infant to someone else before pulling out a pistol with an extended magazine Tuesday, firing nine shots in self-defense at his attacker at Michigan Avenue and Harrison Street, Cook County prosecutors said.
I cant shoot? Hold my ba(beer)by.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT. Who the fuck is running this department? There has always been a certain level of incompetence in the upper ranks but this is the worst its ever been. Just the blatant ignorance and lack of police knowledge and the merit promotions of complete morons is through the roof. Also who is running the training for this shit hole? Work 16 days in a row, days off cancelled finally get my RDO's which did shit for recuperation. Go back to work, try to get back in a routine then told I have training at 0600 at some south side shit hole. Then I have to double back the night of training because I work 1st watch. Same for the next 2 weeks with custodial, use of force, officer well being etc.. Have training on the watches, have these dog ass fucking 5 year wonder pukes who are teaching this shit work 1st watch or whatever watch to accommodate the officers. Instead of fucking up the district schedules and everyone's life have training according to watch times. I know that makes too much sense and the marshmallows "in charge" have their heads too far up their asses to even know what time of days it is.
9/17/2020 12:36:00 PM
Completely and totally agree. Training for 1st watch should be on 1st watch.
We LOVE CPD and CFD.
We, the law-abiding citizens of Chicago, have seen you all working through the pandemic, the protests, the riots. We can only imagine how stressful this has been. We need you. We respect and honor you. We thank you for your service. I personally thank every officer and fireman I see, whenever I can safely do so.
BLUE LIVES MATTER!!
Please remember so so many Chicago citizens respect you and are humbled by your service to us.
Sure seems like Larry is trying to negotiate our contract in the media? A true piece of shit! Chicago will soon be the new Baltimore.
Retired in February and it was the best thing I ever did. Leave ASAP. You will never regret retiring, you will regret staying. God bless, stay safe. And, Fuck you Groot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Vote republican.
9/18/2020 03:40:00 AM
In Chicago? Find them on the ballot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If the bosses had our backs they’d have a super bid for 300 bodies to 016,022,018 and 001. Removing 1,200 bodies from districts that don’t want police and sending them where they’re wanted would shut up the defund crowd and the South and Westside activists would be destroyed by their residents.
9/17/2020 09:38:00 AM
"If the bosses had our backs"
You're delusional.
I remember many years ago when a good boss would say, family first. The good old days...
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