Groot Wants MORE Money
And instead of getting it by opening the economy, she's going after your wallets:
Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who campaigned on a pledge to end Chicago’s “addiction” to fines and fees, is counting on a big increase in city collections from speeding tickets and other violations to balance her 2021 budget.
And she wants part of the boost to the bottom line to come from speed cameras across Chicago issuing speeding tickets to drivers caught going as little as 6 miles per hour over the posted limit.
Under the mayor’s proposal, as part of her 2021 budget package, anyone caught by a camera driving from 6 to 9 mph above the limit would get a warning. Getting caught on camera a second time would prompt a $35 ticket in the mail.
Currently, only those caught driving 10 mph above the limit get the $35 tickets. Tickets of $100 are issued to drivers caught speeding by 11 mph or more above the posted limit. The city has the authority to issue the tickets at lower speeds, but has never used it.
Groot ran on a promise to break the City's habit of relying on fines and fees. But in the midst of a disaster of her (and her party's own making) she's using what has been used by previous administrations - along with "voodoo" numbers she pulls out of her ass:
- According to budget documents released this week as the mayor unveiled her spending proposal for next year, the city expects to bring in $381.5 million in 2021 from fines, forfeitures and penalties. That’s about $38 million more than Lightfoot’s administration projected for 2020.
Did you follow that? Her budget just comes up with an additional $38 million THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST, and decides, "Hey, Speed Cameras can generate this revenue" without any actual evidence it will work. That would be like you or us saying, "We're going to buy a summer house, motorcycle, boat and jet ski this year. We need $400K. Our salary is currently $85K. The rest will be paid by our blackjack winnings at the Horseshoe in Indiana."
Never mind that we don't have anywhere near the stake necessary to pull it off....and we don't play blackjack well enough to win. We've know what we want, so we'll just go out and take on monstrous debt instead of maybe cutting some household costs and taking on a third job.
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Also worth mentioning to Groot HARDLY ANYONE is out driving right now so few drivers means fewer tickets because she and Jabba have shut things down.
Here’s an idea Lori bring back VRI 5 Parker’s 5 Movers Arrests curfews absentees and they work downtown to protect the city. Hey for 65 bucks an hour I would sit in front of your house watching your family easily. Food for thought Mayor
Woah woah woahhhhh there SCC you hit a litttttle to close to home with the lake house, jet ski, new bike, and blackjack at Horseshoe for me. I have to re-evaluate my life.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
#defundthealdermen #halfthealdermen let this be the battle cry!
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I’m liking the sound of this. Where do we start?
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Since we're heading for different strokes (laws) for different folks (and people), will there be any speed cameras on the west or south sides, or will a bunch of new ones appear on the north side and Mt. Greenwood?
Asking for a friend with a heavy foot.
rb
Just open.
Fuck these assholes. None of it is lawful. 'Guidlines' are not law and these demoshit assholes know that.
Elon Musk reopened his mfg plant in CA. Governor stupid fuck said said he couldn't. Musk said Fuck You. Plants been running since May.
Just say Fuck You to Fat Fuck.
City will pass everything he asks for... but Gruit these tickets affect black and brown people more because.....(fill in lie)
Gruit pass a $500 speeding ticket— u will get out of the crunch democrats put us in
What’s next to generate funds, have the revenue department ride bicycles in the northwest and southwest sides in the evening and weekends
looking for city stickers scofflaws?
I was pulled over in WI for doing 79 in a 70. I asked trooper about the 10 mph cushion, he replied you are from IL right. ( I assume he ran plates, rental) He told me no cushion in WI 70 means 70. Got a warning. Now I can't use that excuse . Has anyone tried to drive 25 in a 20? This will result in all sorts of road rage.
Here's a cure to the speed cameras. The state of Illinois in its infinite wisdom has been producing license plates that deteriorate and rust very quickly. They know about this problem and issue you new plates after only a couple years. Well I've kept the old ones on, rust and all, making them harder to read for speed cameras. I've tested this on two occasions, no citation in the mail.
This from a flagrant spender addicted to Maine vacations
and lobster.
Our own Village Idiot
Groot will state that this is all President Trump’s. He’s the one placing restrictions, locking businesses. making CPS remote learn, raising your taxes, causing all this looting of ‘essential’ products like liquor, hair weaves, gym shoes, Gucci handbags, flat screen TVs, etc., cancelling holidays. Groot ‘wants’ to revitalize the economy but evil Trump still be locking it all down!
All ‘fines’ by members of the community will eventually be waived. Can’t have these ‘indebtness’ against peoples struggling to feed their babies, earn a living, etc. They’ll just spend that money in nails, drugs and other important things, then continue to rake up more fines. tickets and violations which will be excused down the line again.
Let me guess... the speed cameras will turn out to be racist.
Anyone see the bullshit tears that Dr. Ezike played up on last nights Covid briefing (she should win an Emmy award for Best Fake Tears). Her comment was I'm so sad that all of these Covid victims (meaning ones who supposedly died from it) will not be at the thanksgiving table. Are the DemoRats stooping this low to get sympathy votes against Trump? Why cry tears now when Thanksgiving is still over a month away??? Will the good Dr. cry at Christmas time too? Fatass behind her wasn't shedding any tears.
They shut the economy down, many of the taxpayers are in perilous financial situations and these God Damned demoncrats are raising taxes? We already have the 2ns highest property taxes in the nation and Fat Bastard wants to increase the income tax and make it progressive. I only buy my gas in the suburbs or Indiana because of the fuel tax already. They can raise that all they want and I'll just continue to buy my gas when I run errands elsewhere.
Whenever I venture out into the cold, cruel city, I plan my route around those red light and speed cams. Milwaukee ave doesn't have one till you get to belmont. None on Devon west of Western. It's the principle of it.
Damn! I guess I should rethink my summer house, jet ski, plan.
I hope they start collecting the speeding tix, red lights, library overdues, water bills, etc.......
The blue voting underclass of Chiraq needs some skin in the game.
Retired earlier this year, have a condo out of state. Only keeping Chicago house to be close to kids half the time.
I know the location of the 2 cameras near my Chicago house. Easy to avoid as I do nothing except sleep in the city.
My only interest in Chicago anymore involves pension funding and property taxes.
Thank you SCC for explaining groot's proposed budget in the simplest of terms.
I was looking at the numbers scratching my head and I don't have any more hair on it.
The layoffs being delayed till March is a huge mistake also.
If 26 aldermen pass the proposed budget, it's over for Chicago.
Start acting like there is a financial crisis already and make cuts.
The city is loaded with phony made up fluff jobs. And 99% are shakman exempt
"Keep the proles away from the polls"
Toilets and the Roach...
Don't forget Chicago...
Water is free
You no longer have to pay your bill the city sends you.
So why does the city spend money on postage sending out bills?
Water is a human right
Thanks Groot 👍
Not driving in the city anymore......ever. Problem Solved.
Anonymous said...
Anyone see the bullshit tears that Dr. Ezike played up on last nights Covid briefing (she should win an Emmy award for Best Fake Tears). Her comment was I'm so sad that all of these Covid victims (meaning ones who supposedly died from it) will not be at the thanksgiving table. Are the DemoRats stooping this low to get sympathy votes against Trump? Why cry tears now when Thanksgiving is still over a month away??? Will the good Dr. cry at Christmas time too? Fatass behind her wasn't shedding any tears.
10/24/2020 04:45:00 AM
I thought the "science and data" said we weren't supposed to get together for Thanksgiving this year?
I still can't get a single dem to tell me what exactly Trump should have done differently, just that "covid is his fault". I remember back when Trump ended travel from China, you know, Home of the Virus, they all cried that was racist and urged us to go hang out in Chinatown.
Can you imagine what would have happened if Trump had issued a lockdown?
Dems would be screaming about how fascist it was and how they would not comply. They would have been out in the streets before Fentanyl Floyd.
Anonymous said...
All ‘fines’ by members of the community will eventually be waived. Can’t have these ‘indebtness’ against peoples struggling to feed their babies, earn a living, etc. They’ll just spend that money in nails, drugs and other important things, then continue to rake up more fines. tickets and violations which will be excused down the line again.
10/24/2020 04:29:00 AM
That IS what they call, “The Struggle”?
Heh ... retired from a job in Streeterville two years ago. Haven't missed the traffic, crime or rioting, one bit. And now ... another really good reason NOT to go back for dinner, shows, or museums. Or for New Year's, to my eye doc, or to the hospital in a war zone. I'm done with the City. Groot does realize she's encouraging this kind of response, right? She's not really this desperate, is she? (LOL)
Ha ha ha. This is what Chicago voted for. Vallas was in first. Joyce, Daley and Fioretti jumped in to split the white vote.
Do you really believe that anyone in Da Community is going to pay, they will all get passes and guess who ends up paying? She just keeps coming up with stupid shit, its really hard to understand how she got elected!
If shitheads can shoot upwards of 4000 other shitheads in a year why can't they direct some of their gunfire towards these fucking cameras? At least be moderately useful.
Want to save money Lori, when someone commits a crime take away all their entitlements. And we don't need 50 aldermen.
get rid of so many exempt spots. Lower their ridicules' do nothing salary save the city and pension. Taxpayer they make about 170,000 a year.
Start collecting the water bills, parking ticket fines, etc. from her community. Don't reward bad behavior.
Why are we not building a casino now while things are slow. It would put a lot of people to work and be ready to open when the pandemic is over. Oh I know, still auguring over who gets the pieces of the pie while the taxpayers pay for it!
As some have already pointed out, fines and “convenience fees” will be paid by some and not by many.
Like it always does, the community will get a pass. For everyone else, the quality of life in Chicago just got worse.....again.
Watch out. The Fair Tax opens the door to a city income tax.
2:17 AM
Thank You Rust Doctor
Who has the balls to admit they vote Democrat??
Not a cop.
Pursuant to a previous SCC post detailing how motorists are no longer getting pulled over for lack of headlights, then by extension having no plates, defacing plates, or obscuring plates is by a matter of precedent not probable cause.
Solution: Deface plate. Drive as fast as you want.
I avoid towns that have speed cameras and red light cameras. I also dont do business there. If you have those cameras then most likely you have a huge sales tax too. I dont need to know what the sales tax is, its hugeness is advertised by those red light camera signs.
Bat Masterson Says:
When will you Chicago Chumbalones finally wake up and vote in a Republican Mayor just ONCE ? You all piss and moan about the state of the City, yet you do the same thing over and over again. This is the definition of Insanity as Einstein once said.
At 10 pm last night, the first night of her new corona shutdown she had Business Affairs and Consumer Protection Prius’ with their flashing yellow lights on driving around river north. Shortly after around 11ish she had meter maids out dropping parking tickets.
Nobody plays Black Jack well enough to win.
1.2B short. raise property taxes just under 100M.
common core math will save us all.
Maybe if we legalize drugs and tax them....oh, wait.....
OT
"the son pocketed millions"
(Anti-Biden political ad on radio)
Rumor from a source at City Hall: Ramping Up Ticket writing and same stupid different department.
Department of Finance suspended the Manager of all Parking Enforcement Aides for allowing a group meal that resulted in several members of Street Ops contracting and testing positive for Covid.
Upon returning to duty 10/23/2020, same Manager was told by 1st Deputy to stop interfering with enforcement of 9-64-170A & 9-64-170B in all wards. Order is supposedly going out from Comptroller to Brown to do the same or stop issuing Cops Parker books period.
Get ready kids. Make sure you have your City Sticker current on your Pickup Trucks and Vans under 8001#.
Hide your C and D Trucks. That 125$ is returning to a ward near you.
I also was told that the guy on a bike that we all know and 'love' is going to be back on the street within the next 10 to 30 days pending Staying in Phase 4 and going into phase 5. The Info out of the source is he was loaned out to Public Health to ramp up an enforcement plan for ticketing bars and businesses that don't follow the social + masks crap from Groot.
Speed Cameras for 6 mph over the limit.
While homicides and shootings roll on.
Groot wants. F-U.
CPD should be getting an annual cost of living increase just for showing up (ordered to work 12 hr tours 24/7) for work everyday awaiting the twitchy foul mouthed bull toad to show up at the negotiation table.
Larri’s Budget is all about spending more and shifting people around (e.g. lower one budget and increase another and fool everyone with turnover). There’s no real, true cost saving in her budget, none whatsoever. AND HOW IN THE F+CK DID THE CITY GO FROM a $800,000 DEFICIT to $1,200,000 IN LESS THAN 6 MONTHS AND STILL GET $470,000 IN COVID C.A.R.E.S. ACT MONEY ????
Red light cameras will be activated according to zip code where everyone pays their debts, obligations and bills on time, Wards 19,23,41,45.
BTW, tax dodging Larri LightFührer still living under her old real estate assessment while she also indicated that she’s going to impose yearly “cost of living” incremental tax increases rather than spike large increases here and there.
Red light revenue from zip code specific cameras won’t save Chicago or swell Larri's handout wallet. We tend to be safer, cognizant and alert drivers that adjust and obey the laws.
Don’t forget Groot wants some sort of tribute out of O’Hare bidness too. Since when does a mayor and a lobbyist share emails without any input or knowledge of/from, Aviation Committee, O’Hare commissioners or even the Alderman?
Vindictive, manic, stuttering Bi-polar AngryToad Larri is merely creating a disaster before she’s either ousted or quits her term.
FU
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just open.
Fuck these assholes. None of it is lawful. 'Guidlines' are not law and these demoshit assholes know that.
Elon Musk reopened his mfg plant in CA. Governor stupid fuck said said he couldn't. Musk said Fuck You. Plants been running since May.
Just say Fuck You to Fat Fuck.
10/24/2020 01:29:00 AM
Just maybe the tide is turning.
A fed up restaurant owner in California is defying their governor’s Chinese virus closure order saying he will stay open , and if the government comes to try and shut him down, armed citizens will come to his aid.
Sacramento bee article link
The city is gone divest accordingly.
add this to the list of names for the mayor...Lori Leadfoot
Red Light Camera Investigations are being conducted by the Feds
The City and County have Elected Officials under indictment
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The Fee Increase only makes More Money four the Camera Vendor
Stop the killing Groot. 660 killed and 3500 people shot. Stop the killing. You piss away tax dollars on useless and bullshit programs and all you have got to show for it is 660 murder victim and thousands of shooting victims. You don't bring reform, you bring death to the city. You are the Murder Queen of Murder City.
Lightfruit, dedicated Communist, wants to destroy the city, that's her assigned job by the CPUSA. (Communist Party USA). It's all intentional. Wake Up America
TRUMP 2020
Failed Mayor Lightfoot Is Turning Chicago Into A Giant Speed Trap, With Camera Tickets For Drivers Going Just 6 Miles Over The Limit
(1) Lightfoot Is Breaking Her Campaign Promise To Stop Using Traffic Cameras For Revenue, Rather Than Safety; (2) Studies Show That Speed Cameras Do Not Reduce Accidents; (3) This Is Exactly The Kind Of Predatory Ticketing That Hits Poor And Minorty Drivers The Mosts, Driving Them Into A Cycle Of Never Ending Debt; (4) Lightfoot Has Repeatedly Screwed Drivers To Grab Easy Money -- Including Issuing Thousands Of Predatory Parking Tickets During The Pandemic After Promising Not To -- Raising The Regressive City Gas Tax 60 Percent During The Same Pandemic -- On Top Of The State's 100 Percent Gas Tax Hike -- Raising Parking Meter Rates -- And Raising Taxes On Uber Rides By More Than 400 Percent; (5) Driving Has Been The Lifeline For Chicago Transportation, As Transit Ridership Has Fallen 80 Percent, Over Fears Of COVID And A Surge In Violent Transit Crime -- So Why Is Lightfoot Punishing Drivers For That; And (6) Lightfoot Just Announced A Big Campaign To Encourage Visitors To Chicago -- Visitors That Will Be Crucial To Any COVID Economic Recovery -- How Does Turning Chicago Into A Giant Speed Trap Encourage Any Visitors?
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