Seriously Fred?
A large Fourth of July gathering in Englewood turned violent early Wednesday morning when five people were shot, one fatally, and a man was beaten.
Chicago’s top cop said police should have dispersed the crowd hours before the incident unfolded.
“Something more should have been done,” interim Chicago Police Supt. Fred Waller said, though he did not respond when asked whether police had been called to the scene earlier.
"Something more should have been done..."
By who? The police? How about we FOIA the A&A sheets and see how many cops were actually on-duty on 1st Watch in 007? After 10 days straight with no days off. And long after the "Tiered Deployment" and tactical teams would have been sent home. The Department got rid of gas teams, MSF and refuse to even consider the LRAD truck. Not to mention the Department is still short a thousand or so cops.
We shouldn't expect much from Fred since he was part of the lynch mob standing behind the podium with Groot and TR kowtowing after the riots a few years back, when a group of exhausted cops were ordered to protect Bobby Rush's office (the order existed - talk to the lieutenants working that night) after a double shift.
But if you want to make this a failure of higher-ups and politicos to effectively manage manpower, then have at it.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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I had high hopes with Fred. But dead head Fred never made out the gates. Nothing changed and he should have just stood retired. I really hope someone who knows what they are doing would come along. I have zero faith with the whole upper management. It’s like watching Dumb and Dumber as the entire upper Command. The clueless leading the clueless leadership. How are we suppose to get crime to a manageable level when the Bosses don’t even know what’s going on in their Command. It has been game over for a good while. I have no expectations of anything getting better for the good citizens or the good guys trying to do the right thing. Put in your time, do the best you can, except 99% of the Boss you work under to be idiots / full blown retards and move along to retirement. Just do the best you can with the understanding that not much can be done under this current situation we are living in.
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Thanks SCC for what you do for us all! Oh and fuck Waller.
Why would u enforce that? Dispersing that crowd would only result in a 10-1 with dozens of trrs, agg batt to po, and bs mob action and disorderly conduct arrests that more than likely get dropped in court. Probably some iods too. Then the media would talk about how racist the police are for breaking up a July 4 block party in the hood. It’s not worth it.
OT: For years I always thought there needs to be a Superintendent from within the department. With 22 years on CPD and going through several outside Superintendents. I still think that was a good idea years back, promoting from within to the rank of Superintendent. But now I would really be fearful of anyone I can think of at Commander and Above. The last ten years every promotion to Gold Star has been friends and family. All of the current Command Staff has gotten us where we are now! In order to get change we must have change. Now is truly the time for an outsider and dump the majority of Command Staff. The current group failed the city and needs to go. Under their Command crime flourished and in some areas broke records. And please no excuses, they ran the department and city into the ground. It’s like a losing sports team. You get rid of them, you don’t make half wits to coach. Crime is under an all time high. Voters said they want this fixed. Now the group putting a list of who should be the next Superintendent wants to reward someone who got us into this mess and really expects them to change things for the better. Come-on people that surely is crazy! Our pension, our families, friends, neighbors lives are at stake. We need a real leader to be in the position of Superintendent. The six finalists are only going to further the city into shambles. One day when Chicago erects a moment to where once stood a great thriving city, I hope they list the names of the incompetent who destroyed it.
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2020/05/room-to-destroy.html?m=1 The Department hasn’t walked this back since before the riots in 2020. They also have an order that would require hours to get rid of a party of that size. They created the problem and blame the cops for the result. Very sad.
It was 8 shot. A few of them self-transported. What’s funny is at 5am there were children under the age of 10 clearly seen running around in the middle of it all as the generational curses continue.
But Hey…. It’s the “bi*ch a$$ po’leeeece” fault.
“Deys need a Bama’laaance!” as they cried in one accord.
Stay safe, everyone.
Someone also mentioned the department has a terrible, ineffective policy on large gatherings put in place during the riots. Also, If police tried to stop that party does he think it would have ended peacefully? Nobody wants to get in trouble for this bs. I'm not jeopardizing my safety, paycheck and freedom for any of this shit.
Besides that little hiccup, how was the party?
Who fucking cares about a large party in the hood? Not the shitheads who live there. Should have S&S show up, put up barricades and some razor wire and leave. They hate da poleecees anyway until they need you...fuck em
No Go zones are needed 100%
Let the natives have their funnin...y'all know when there is a large gathering, there is gonna be a shooting or two!! Fuck 'em. The more they get shot, the less assholes for us to deal with. Then, here we go, where where the po'leeeece? They don't care about us? When we show up, they refuse to talk and bitch at us. Where BLM? Wheres Fr Faker and the others when blacks are shot? Oh, thats right, Fr Faker is now targeting CPS for racially profiling 3 black principals fired! Priority!! Who cares about kids, parents, grandmas, grandpas, sisters, brothers getting shot. It's an everyday part of life for the animals.
"call in the scoops!!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABBQw6Ffbb8
I had high hopes with Fred. But dead head Fred never made out the gates. Nothing changed and he should have just stood retired. I really hope someone who knows what they are doing would come along. I have zero faith with the whole upper management. It’s like watching Dumb and Dumber as the entire upper Command. The clueless leading the clueless leadership. How are we suppose to get crime to a manageable level when the Bosses don’t even know what’s going on in their Command. It has been game over for a good while. I have no expectations of anything getting better for the good citizens or the good guys trying to do the right thing. Put in your time, do the best you can, except 99% of the Boss you work under to be idiots / full blown retards and move along to retirement. Just do the best you can with the understanding that not much can be done under this current situation we are living in.
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The 012th district would know about idiots, having inherited quite a few from 013.
Where was Waller that day? Perhaps he should have strapped on some gear and lead by example, helping to disperse the crowd of Democrat voters.
30 days lt then promoted to commander. City that works!
See the above thread. Dammed if you do dammed if you don’t. COPA needs to let us know how to handle these situations.
Hey, Fred… suit up and show us all how it’s done.
Otherwise, shut the fuck up with your “Something more should have been done”.
You KNOW what woulda happened were anyone dumb enough to try and disperse those assholes. That powder keg was National news waiting to happen. You’re an extra special kind of stupid to think it would’ve ended without incident. But no worries cuz you ain’t the one getting your hands dirty, right?
And nice to see you again pandering to your overlords. Nothin’ like throwing the troops under the bus when the “weekend violence strategies” created by your illustrious think tank are a complete bust. Keep surrounding yourself with your fraternity bruthas and sistas and those on the ‘Friends & Family’ program - maybe that collective braintrust of Mensa candidates will get lucky NEXT weekend.
You’re a pathetic failure, Fred. As is 99% of the command staff.
Fred was and is a good policeman but Fred is an uneducated goof and that goes to about 96% of the command staff. Plain and simple
Who cares? Let them shoot each other all day long.
Anyone read the GO about large gatherings? Then apply common sense- the amount of TRR's and CR's coming out of this isn't worth it. Lawsuits for violation of 1st Amendment... Naaa, not worth it.
Risk taking how much time on suspension for something in Englwood?
Why?
Fred is just waiting to be the man in charge of the New, New CPD consent decree training. Monterrey Security will get their cut.
Remember.. we can no longer break up large gatherings. You have to jump through hoops to get a large gathering dispersed. This was a lightfoot rule to let the people and folks be and celebrate.
What an asshole. No doubt he's never been on the street trying to break up some ghetto block party with the "peoples" already high on booze and drugs. Many of them packing guns. Its a real shit show let me tell you and since when does it fall on the Police to force these savages to act like human beings ?
Come on Fred get real! This would be what Fred would say if police engaged and had to defend themselves this Fred is the real deal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoHBhosppfw
How about we FOIA the number and nature of the 911 calls about this gathering well before the lead went flying.
Maybe the "cammander" can explain why.
It was a Julyteenth celebration and we shouldn't demonize the youth who made poor decisions.
Fred go back to Monterrey and hold hands with Hiram The blind leading the blind.
Serve and Collect.
"""The 012th district would know about idiots, having inherited quite a few from 013.""""
Thats funny. We said the same about 012. What are the odds?
Buncha cry baby douche bags.
Thought you needed a permit for a block party? But what fool in right mind would try to but down party without a whole bunch of backup.
Did BJ keep the 100 guys assigned to Lightfoots detail? Or are they still assigned to her in Park Ridge?
7/08/2023 06:00:00 AM
Permit? LMFAO. These parasites dont have any permits, valid dl's, insurance, etc. Break up a block party in da community.....GTFOH
Fred, I seen you knock some mferz out back in the housing days. Why didn't you go there with Bradley and show us how it's done?
I have had vacations in Chicago, years ago. Remember the Cows on Parade. How long would they last now?
We visited the Navy Pier, the Field Museum, the Shedd Aquarium. Disney had a virtual amusement park they were trying out.
Chicago is a place no man would bring his family to in 2023.
Professionally, had to visit for board examination at the Palmer House.
Let it rot. When a city no longer cares, it is done.
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