Shortsighted Again
Do you have to fail Econ101 to be a democrat? Of course!
Mayor Brandon Johnson on Friday scored the biggest legislative win yet for his progressive agenda as the City Council approved a measure that phases in the elimination of the subminimum wage for restaurant servers, bartenders and other tipped workers.
By a 36-10 vote, Council members served up the ordinance that supporters say will level the economic playing field for waitstaff in Chicago’s world-class culinary scene, but that industry leaders argue will saddle neighborhood restaurants with untenable labor costs.
The Restaurant Association folded like a wet blanket on this, but then took a survey of its members:
- The
Illinois Restaurant Association surveyed current restaurant owners in
Chicago about steps they might take to offset financial impacts of the
minimum-wage increase and a majority of restaurants said they would:
Raise menu prices (80%)
Reduce staff or consolidate positions (66%)
Reduce employee hours (58%)
A few aldercreatures in the parts of the city that have actual tax generating restaurant properties in their wards sounds an alarm:
Another opponent, Ald. Nicholas Sposato (38th) said he “was 100% for the $15-an-hour minimum wage” that was passed four years ago for most workers, but said the city should “educate people on how to tip” rather than give suburban restaurants like those bordering his Northwest Side ward a leg up over city businesses.
“I believe we’re gonna get destroyed with this,” he said. “I appreciate the five-year ramp, but it’s still going to be a killer... Restaurants are gonna be cutting jobs. They’re gonna be raising prices. They’re gonna be adding service charges.”
Cause meets effect. If we could move our restaurant just over the border and still get city customers, we're making that move.
We took a survey of what SCC would do and found the following:
- Go to where the food was cheaper and tastier
- Stop tipping....since they're making minimum wage
It isn't just downtown that's getting destroyed. It's the neighborhoods, too. Where exactly is BJ going to make up these monetary shortfalls?
Labels: dumb ideas, money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
47 Comments:
This is only for the people who eat in Chicago restaurants.
Haven't eaten in a Chicago restaurant in over 10 years. Haven't eaten in a Gold Coast, Rush Street or that area restaurant in over 30 years. That was before it got dangerous.
All restaurants within the boundries of the city will have to become pick up and delivery only, with seated dining like any of the many fast food chains.
No more sit down dining with services.
Unless, or until, the county does this same thing, it's a bonanza for the towns bordering the city.
The truly independent restaurants, not franchised, are being told, clearly, that they don't amount to sufficient swag/taxes and fees, and fines, and permits, etc., to be given a shit about.
So, waiters and waitresses, you just got eliminated from employment within this city'boundries. Gonna have to travel a bit, if you want to continue your trade.
Cook at home. You will save some serious cash, and eat healthier too.
If you don't know how? LEARN!
Books! YouTube! Take classes.
Sure, you will make terrible meals, but you will learn.
And teach your kids!
Food servers are serving the customer not the restaurant owners, that's why the customers were supposed to pay them.
Its another one of those "for the greater good" things the ancients already had in place.
If one person couldn't tip, most everyone else would make up for it without knowing it. And it kept the prices low so that one person, who otherwise would not be able to afford it, could still go out to eat.
Really what I think it is, is the government wants to to be sure it collects every penny of taxes from those workers and eventually get rid of cash.
I wouldn't be surprised if they moved to get rid of the independent contractor classification too (gig worker).
They're always making minimum wage, even when they get paid a sub-minimum + tip because the law says that if the tips don't bring them up to minimum wage for the hourly, then the restaurant has to cover it...
Of course that will only happen once before the moron who didn't earn the tips gets fired because it increases the labor costs for the restaurant.
Now BJ & Co. want to get rid of sub-minimum and give everyone just minimum? Yeah, well, restaurants gotta make that up somehow: Menu prices increase, service charges (or both) and that's on top of the typical 10+% BOHICA Sales Tax rate (even more in the McPier Sales Tax Overlay District), so who the hell wants to go out to eat any more?
A simple lunch will be $35+ by the time you're all said and done w/o the bullshit tip. How much can you buy at the Grocery Store and brownbag it for $35?
Tip? Assholes want 20% or more?
Fuck it. They couldn't figure out that the "Fight for 15" got them less hours, less patrons wanting to cover the increased wage, etc... So now they're going full retard.
City Death Spiral Continues. Thanks for nothing Democrats!
And please add, I would go to the suburban restaurant which may be somewhat safer because we know you are less safe in going to a Chicago restaurant.
Time to challenge residency !
I will never tip again because I won’t eat out anymore.
"...but said the city should “educate people on how to tip”
What a goof. Sure, maybe the city can pass out flyers, door to door on how to tip.
Soo stupid. More restaurants closing and going to the suburbs.
Tip jars are the thing nowadays mom and pop stores Starbucks Dunkin greasy spoons etc here’s a tip get find a better fucking job that you like and one that pays better than minimum wage
Stop tipping is my answer starts immediately since I just learned the restaurants Are currently required to make up difference for waitstaff if tips do not equal minimum wage. Raising prices just means fewer meals out for average working person. Adding service charges same as raising price same outcome. Cutting staff, equals lousy service equals lost customers, eventually closing said establishment. Suburb me short drive away, no wait forgot I left city because of all the crime, good affordable restaurants within sage walking distance with free parking if I drive. So in summation I save valet parking charges, eat in a safer more affordable establishment with a better class of people. Thank you city council for making such a thoughtful new law.
Finally in answer to your original question about Econ 101, first you would have to teach Democrats how to read before taking that course. Also most have never had a job in their lives that required real work, government work does qualify as work, spare totally ignorant of complicated concepts like economics.
Less taxes funding the pensions, this isn’t gonna end well!
I'm not paying $50 to eat a hamburger with my kid. Tell me what to tip? I don't think so.
Don’t they remember when queen sugar tried to impose her new tax and how that back fired on her dumbass.
Mayor Pug-nose is a Commie.
No more tips for me now. Just like everywhere else with the "add a tip" for take out or other counter service. NOPE!
What’s the new tipping percent in the city after it passes? 0% to 5%?
I try to avoid city restaurants when possible already mostly for lack of parking.
They're making it way too unpleasant.
Mr. Pink : I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds.
Chicago spent at least $3.5 million for NASCAR weekend and got $620,000 in return
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NASCAR recently cut a check for nearly $120,000 to the city for its portion of ticket sales, food, beverage and merchandise for the 2023 race.
In college I made $300-500 a night waitressing. The job was always a sales position. I am floored that they are doing this. It was a relatively easy, mostly fun, industry where you could make a decent buck with no education. My mom raised three kids waitressing/bartending and we weren’t on government aide and were well taken care of. Yet again, the city is focusing on the wrong shit and driving away business, consumers and jobs… and us suckers who are forced to own homes in this shit hole will have to shoulder it all. We need to lift residency requirements, set us free
The Illinois Restaurant Association is run by a bunch of leftist wimps who do nothing to actually try to protect the member restaurants.
As for tipping, stop immediately. Perhaps people need to understand the ramifications of the way they vote.
More restaurants will go to robotic servers. They will get even smarter and be a better investment than the average employee. That's the future. Can't wait for them to replace the useless grossly overpaid news anchors.
Here we are again with a restaurant owner expecting customer's tips to make up for what they're not doing.
A Tip is customary, not mandatory. It is a reward for performing outstanding service above the normal level of service. Not to supplement the greed of the business owners.
Bye bye tipping! It was originally to make up for the lower wages they made for their service. No need anymore if they are making the same as everyone else! You don't get tipped for doing your job at your pay rate, why should they??
Restaurant food is a health killer. Fact. If you value your health (and pocketbook), don't.
Why stop at $15. I think $22.50 would work out better for all concerned.
Chipotle doesn't even have table service, but they are testing out automation for the mobile order line because of labor costs and hiring concerns.
Sit-down restaurants will move to the model where the customer orders from their phone or a screen at the table, and a robot brings over the food. It's only a matter of time before the technology improves and this costs less than hiring a full crew of waitstaff.
https://newsroom.chipotle.com/2023-10-03-CHIPOTLE-TEAMS-UP-WITH-HYPHEN-TO-BEGIN-TESTING-NEW-DIGITAL-MAKELINE
Stop tipping haha yup. I was a seven tipper. Now in Chicago I’m going to be mr pink from reservoir dogs
This a good thing. The actual price of the meal (food, service and overhead) will be actually listed on the menu. You pay the listed amount. No tip required. I’m in Europe as I write this and that’s how it always worked here. No tip required or expected.
No more 20% added on. Just pay the amount of the bill. The wait staff is paid by the owner.
It actually will reduce the cost of eating out.
This just more social justice bullshit. The good efficient staff don’t want this, because they make more money based on the amount of effort put into their job. Now the slugs, like in every city job, will be paid the same as the hardest worker.
For the best service maybe you’ll, like your grandparents, leave a 5% tip. Average service, no tip.
Most of the good staff will find other jobs leaving these jobs to our newest residents fresh from the border.
While I don't eat in restaurants very often, when I do, servers in city restaurants will no longer get a tip from me.
No reason to tip if they are making minimum wage.
“Anonymous Anonymous said...
Less taxes funding the pensions, this isn’t gonna end well!
10/09/2023 06:45:00 AM”
That IS an intended feature of the policy!
$16 an hour to bring a pizza and beer.
No tip for you.
Wages should be set by the businesses.
Offer a wage, see who'll work for it. $15 an hour for a burger flipper? Maybe $6.....
They are regulating right out of business.
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Eat at home? Bidenomics is working well. Food prices up about 20% so far during his term.
https://www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/research/americans-continue-paying-the-high-price-of-bidenomics
Chicago's restaurant and bar desert. Soon there will be nothing left to rob except people homes
Who wants to drive every day to their downtown office, pay to park, and find out there are no places to eat or shop?
Chicago is dying. They never learned the lessons of Detroit.
It is very expensive to dine out these days. I tip at only 15% and if their pay goes up then I just might stop tipping.
Did you know that the word tip is an acronym? It means to insure promptness. When I go to nicer restaurants, I give my tip upfront and get better service insurance policies are paid upfront.
The author of ‘The 1619 Project’ stated that tipping is racist, so I don’t want to be a racist.
Canadians don't tip. That's why they are great kayakers, eh?
Hello, Rosemont, Arlington Heights and Schaumburg and all the other NW Suburbs. Here comes my businss.
Imagine all the lazy fucks sitting around waiting for their tips while doing next to nothing .. Adios Chicago restaurants
I just paid out my employees tips, one server worked 20 hours and claimed (less than they made) $700.99 in tips. With the hourly wage that works out to $43.75/hour
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