Response is 50-50?
In Chicago in 2023, more than 1,800 calls were made to 911 of a person being shot. Only about 800 – fewer than half – were responded to immediately by police officers. The other 1,000 callers were victims of 911 backlogs, where no police were available at the time of the call. Those victims had to wait half an hour, an hour, or even several hours for the 911 call backlog to end and for police to finally arrive.
It was the same for the 32,000 911 calls of an assault in progress, where police were only immediately available for 50% of those calls. And it was the same for 54% of the city’s 911 calls of 35,000 batteries in progress.
In all, there were 783,000 high-priority 911 calls in 2023. For 437,000 of those calls, or 56%, long periods of backlogs meant there were no police immediately available. Wirepoints obtained the 911 call and response data directly from the Chicago Police Department via FOIA.
We were warning about this what....a decade ago? Certainly more than a few years at the very least.
But hey, manpower is fine or something. All beat cars are manned.
Pinkie promise!
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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A good example
Back in May, a Wicker Park woman left her door open after letting her dog out. Soon after, two men wearing masks entered her home. “I saw two men wearing masks standing inside my house. I screamed – ‘I am calling the police’ and they bolted.” The woman called 911. They said help was on the way and instructed her to wait outside.
The woman waited. And waited. Help didn’t arrive.
Six calls to 911 later, she finally got hold of a supervisor. He explained there were no units to send.
He then recommended the woman call her alderman to encourage him to hire more police.
She was also asked if she “had a weapon or considered getting one.”
Police finally arrived four hours later.
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YUP
He also should have said STOP voting for these Democrat Socialists
If the victim gets frustrated and goes home after one of Crimeshas favorite ones assault them and doesn't report it then it doesn't count....does it?
This is a win win for BJ and Crimesha isn't it? They get to crow about how crime is down, nobody gets arrested so there's no charges to drop and Crimesha has more time for her power walk in Flossmoor on Friday morning.
What we need are common-sense stick-control laws:
https://saltmustflow.com/man-smashed-in-the-head-by-a-lunatic-wielding-a-tree-branch/
This is why you have to have one in the chamber-Assman009
Part of the issue is technology. You used to be able to cut a report in the passenger seat of a car. Now with the new PDTs every report requires you to proceed into a station to complete. Also the Sergeant ranks are too low. I remember when the Sgt’s used to be on your ass to get back and clear. Now the Sgt’s leave everything for the following watch. Half the watch is down on paper in certain districts
It isn’t going to get better anytime soon! Be careful and be safe!
I don't know. That's a .444 average. Pretty good! IN BASEBALL!
But what's the point even for an arrest when criminals get a slap on the hand? That's who sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands like I have. The black hoodies come on handy.
Good. Let it all burn.
Keep your homes secure, check on your kids, spend in the suburbs, clip coupons shop sales only. Do the bare minimum. At the end of the day it affects the ghetto and their endless dysfunctions not you.
Hopefully ambulance service was able to show up more quickly.
Beef up Coneheads detail for the DNC...
Can anyone tell me how many people the city denies, deems unsuitable through psych tests, and processes "shitbags" let alone total amount of applicants from start to finish? Oh wait. The city won't say any of that because all they hire is DEI and shitbag gang banging terrorists. They don't care about the manpower nor the standard, don't be fooled, this manpower crisis won't end till 5-10 years later at least at this pace.
So.....the police are the problem again ??? ...
500k HP calls and we all know 90% are bs calls. When it’s a real call POPO here there very fast. We all know the earmarks of a real call. Shots fired, Multiple calls, person down, people running, hear those inputs ona shots fired call you know it’s 95% legit and cars flying there.
People jumping on people, repeat zebra calls, 3rd party calls. Etc. If 911 charged $1 per call they’d cut 90% of tye bs calls and be out of a job.
If these shit zippers knew it was going to cost $1 call 911 for attention or to have someone to talk to they’d stop calling and free up cars.
And while your at it putting criminals in jail would feee up cars also Jimmy Timmy Toni and the rest of the crew
I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is no manpower shortage. There's a shortage of POs that want to work outside. And after seeing some of these goofs, maybe it's for the best.
Best arm yourself as police are almost non exsistant when you really have a problem.
and how many calls of "my baby daddy be disrespecting me" were the police sent to = 500,000
how many calls MAGA supporters being loud and destructive = 0
Shitcago is No country for Old Men. Your choices are leave for America or go Gran Torino and get prosecuted by the state, if your neighbors don’t lynch you first.
How many of the calls are actually emergency calls? How many are bogus or not police related calls?
Yeah!!!Defund The Police!!!
019 1W house mice need to step up and man the beat!
Today, RDOs cancelled, 3 mice working SDSC, 5 mice on 19e desk and another 5 mice at 19W.
Hold on a minute sports fans. Only 1800 calls were made for a person shot? Was that for the month of July in Englewood?
Something aint adding up here.
Also, 50% of the calls of a person shot took longer than 30 minutes for a car to arrive on scene?
Now I've been out of the game for a little while, but I don't believe any of these numbers other than there's less manpower.
Look the wheels are coming off of the Democratic City of ChiRaq! Even the Farris wheel at Navy Pier got stuck with no way to get people out?
Just remember, the current administration doesn't want police. They believe crime can be curbed by using more Social Workers. Justice Involved Individuals just need more Opportunities and Assistance, not getting locked up.
Also, don't forget that the Fire Department wants more ambulances and paramedics. It is likely that, not only were police not available to respond, but CFD wasn't able to respond either (or at least didn't have an ambulance to transport the victim to the hospital.
This is why CPD and CFD are staging a protest on Michigan Avenue during NASCAR.
The powers that be can ignore reality all they want but you can't ignore the consequences. When I was still working in patrol you would go to jobs and people would be pissed off about the response time and frankly, I don't blame them. I would give them a quick synopsis of what is going on and then punch up all the jobs pending and let them look at the computer screen to see for themselves. They would shake their heads in disbelief and then I would explain that this happens everyday. Just imagine how bad it would be if they didn't have the alternate response unit(311).
The fucked up part is the assholes and the community who hates da polleeces are the ones calling for every little thing and then having the nerve to bitch and moan about response times, all they while not even being a taxpayer just a tax taker. Fuck them, slow roll to everything involving them especially when deys beez shots and leaking all over
There should be unlimited overtime. If anyone ever wants to work their day off or extension of tour there should never be an issue with it, especially after reading this article.
Retired in Texas……
Betcha 50 toothpicks I can flush out 200+ bodies in those hidden spots, the district commanders office, the district front desk, caps, cone heads detail etc etc etc…..
BUT WAIT…….
I was reading, which I’m sure most of you know and has been discussed here on this blog, the teachers want a 15% salary stipend, on top of salary step increases on top of a 9% yearly cost of living increase.
Throw in free CTA passes for CPS Students.
Teachers want free infertility treatments, no cost abortions, and free ozempic treatments-not sure if this is for students, teachers or both.
To top it off, they want electric school buses (K A M A L A), 10 thousand new affordable housing units and rental assistance.
What if……we re-imagine teaching for CPS….for all their demands cps teachers are required to be cross trained as 9161’s and during the summer months have to man a beat car and then go back to teaching in the fall.
This way it helps with the man power shortage on the street and there would be no need for school officers and calls for service at these schools.
Stay save out there…
It seems like all of our problems lately are manufactured by bad policy...This is a poorly run department, in a poorly run municipality. And it is all wrapped up in a Cook County and Illinois apathetic wrapper.
The cancer it seems, has spread to the federal level. Corruption, Border crisis, inflation, lack of criminal prosecution...etc
These are generational problems...it will take generations to fix if the will is there to fix them at all.
Serving Chicago values since 1837
Defund the police. Voting and ideology have consequences. Enjoy
Surprised they didn’t do a demographics of those calls.
Pinkie promise!
Pinko commie promise is apropos...
50/50 is better than nothing, but to solve this problem let’s put together another committee of the city’s brightest folks to get to the root cause of this problem. Pay them a hefty stipend of course to tell us there’s not enough manpower and never will be again. Then maybe they can answer the question “why is that”.
Why is it folks always complain about a problem, started the problem, but never fix a problem. Always depending on someone else to do that for them. Why can’t more be like Kamala Harris?
Well, if criminals stayed in prison or we brought back an expedited death penalty via firing squad or public hanging, I imagine the homicide rate (let alone the overall crime rate) in Chicago would be a fraction of what it currently is. Alas, given that certain demographics are significantly more prone to criminal behavior than others, such proposed measures would immediately be shot down as being "racist", "lynchings", etc. Maybe it's time someone asked that if such measures are "racist", then why are they so effective?
Cwbchicago.
2 migrants face felony gun charges, 1 claims he found the weapon on a beach
They didn't need a metal detector or nothing man I gotta start going to the beach more. First I gotta get a protective vest tho
There is nothing about CPD that looks good. It's a giant waste of tax dollars. Maybe one day it can be fixed, but I doubt it.
Manpower would not be an issue if all of front office and caps were assigned back to the watch. This is the fix all issues solution. I really feel bad for the 15-20 years on the job loser who spends their entire life in patrol without of any opportunity to try anything else. All they have is the furlo to look forward to and that is it.
Sorry people. It's a big club and you're not in it.- George Carlin
Just think.
In 016 there's only about four cars on the first watch. You're better off playing police or sheriff yourself.
Unfortunately, being a DCO officer in twenty five, we are discouraged from responding to any in progress calls. We have bigger problems to deal with anyways. We’ve been short handed and downing a car the last few months. Not sure how much thinner we can be stretched honestly. May have to go back to CAPS and be more hands on police as they say.
Answering the call of our citizens in the districts should be the department’s #1 priority and it’s not. Call back and light duty should be re-evaluated to pump up the district personnel. Tier 2 district Tact teams are being abused on details and are never in the district next they continually sent to baby sit shitheads at the beach or to cry baby terrorist supporters downtown.
So much for defund the police and "The cops arent your friend". Seems like alot of calls for service for an agency the politicians cant stand.
Kind of like the odds of a happy marriage!
To be fair-
All of the beat cars (out on the street) are manned.
Some would call that a play on words.
Most would call that BULLSHIT.
The reality of this is that no democratic politicians -who are in charge- care. There is little down side to having crime victims, maybe a protest march, light a few candles, but no political price paid by the democratic politicians. They know the community will still support them at the ballot box.
19P covers all
Midnight Basketball would clear up half of these issues.
32 years on pushing a beat car and I'm not a loser. I enjoy going to work, summer furloughs,Holidays off. I've been passed over on Sergeants exam by incompetent officers that couldn't write a criminal complaint, decent arrest report.
I do my job, write a Parker or two, mover once in awhile.I work special, don't abuse medical benefits.
I plan on sticking around a few more years.
For all you ten year and under wonders that hate the job.Do everyone ,including yourself a favor.Quit.
I do agree that CAPS SERGEANT and Officers aren't necessary. We are all trained as caps officers.
Also spot on, eliminate inside people, secretary,review,especially the tactical secretary.
Put them in a beat car.
CPD is an embarrassment to LE. I remember decades ago being told that patrol was the backbone of the department, yet its treated like the red headed step child. I will not work your RDO canceled, I will not work your forced extensions of tour, I will not work your OT opportunities to man beat cars and I will never feel bad about it. I'm not to blame for this manpower issue and I'll be dammed if the department is going to balance it on my back. They have had decades of data showing them that this was coming be decided not to do anything, well paybacks a bitch and most of us on they way out aren't doing a damn thing either.
Bottom line. There has to be more cars and officers in patrol. That’s the only answer. Whether it comes from downsizing specialized units, emptying out the front office and other inside jobs in the district and special units or replacing units that do no police work but are staffed with officers depends on the powers to be
It’s a no brainer, you can’t respond to more calls unless there are more cars on the street
These new PDTs work well in the field to write reports. Only your dog ass has to "hold me down on paper in the station"
Part of the issue is technology. You used to be able to cut a report in the passenger seat of a car. Now with the new PDTs every report requires you to proceed into a station to complete. Also the Sergeant ranks are too low. I remember when the Sgt’s used to be on your ass to get back and clear. Now the Sgt’s leave everything for the following watch. Half the watch is down on paper in certain districts
Those on TACT TEAMS and complain? FU, you chose to be on that team, now deal with it.
Rampant crime. Few arrests. CPD is just a clean up crew. How many hours do you spend searching for spent shells when you're on shift anyway? As much as it takes, wink wink...
019 1W and MOST of all the dest crew are fucking uselsss!! More " Taken Care" of people on the desk than the streets...start investigating why the crimes are so high on 1W Captain!!!
Angel Reese set a new wnba record. Did CPD accomplish anything?
Imagine being a well educated white liberal paying sky high property taxes and you get no police services?? Lol
Pure stupidity!
and how many calls of "my baby daddy be disrespecting me" were the police sent to = 500,000
how many calls MAGA supporters being loud and destructive = 0
6/30/2024 06:14:00 AM
Never a dull moment, here, in the big titty city that's gots no pity....
Anonymous said...
and how many calls of "my baby daddy be disrespecting me" were the police sent to = 500,000
how many calls MAGA supporters being loud and destructive = 0
6/30/2024 06:14:00 AM
Spoken like a true extremist! Did you know that Joe Biden was DRUGGED with fentanyl before the debate??? Shame on you extremists!
Unfortunately, being a DCO officer in twenty five, we are discouraged from responding to any in progress calls. We have bigger problems to deal with anyways. We’ve been short handed and downing a car the last few months. Not sure how much thinner we can be stretched honestly. May have to go back to CAPS and be more hands on police as they say.
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You guys are useless!
All self-serving hacks looking for the next merit promotion.
Angel Novalez was a DCO Lt under Escamerit, all he did was merit promote his DCOs to Sgts. when he became exempt. Bailey, Goetz, Guzman, Kurt, and others given a cushy spot. All these guys were never the patrol type but surely were brown-nosers.
32 years on pushing a beat car and I'm not a loser.
Not OP and you, Sir, are the definition of a loser.
Anonymous said...
Angel Reese set a new wnba record. Did CPD accomplish anything?
6/30/2024 05:31:00 PM
Wow! A WNBA record. Is that like being the tallest midget?
2:07 pm 9th district crybaby here I do my job to I push all the work to the other desk personnel time to hit the medical see you in October xxoo
Angel Reese set a new wnba record. Did CPD accomplish anything?
6/30/2024 05:31:00 PM
Did you accomplish anything?
Besides the gift given to you of having your submitted comment posted?
.......... I remember decades ago being told that patrol was the backbone of the department...Actually that line comes from the classic book on police administration written by O.W. Wilson. There is timeless wisdom in his book, but I doubt that anyone in the command staff read it or understands it.
Now a story I heard years ago is after Wilson completed major reforms in the organization and administration of the police department he wanted to reform the personnel and promotional system. Then according to the story is when King Richard the 1st told him that his services were no longer needed.
Welcome to the Wonderful World Of Conehead.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
How’s the lgbtq community behavior tonight, no follow up by our local news.
Maybe we can get Kenyatta to sing for the victims , have Mike get them some counseling , Catanzara make em a sandwich , Fernando get em a cocktail , Jakstavitch get em a doggie bag and get the head of the trustees to give them a ride in the back of the wagon while he takes a lunch break . What an absolute boondoggle . While cops are overworked this “ crew “ has talked cops into transferring to other departments , retire early and be stripped for not going into the portal . This police job today is more dangerous than it was thirty years ago . But you know what John “ speaks for us !” He does when he is in Vegas , Jamaica ,
Mexico , Minnesota , Louisville , New York , Florida , Arizona , San Diego , Dallas and who know where else on your dime . This crew is spending your hard earned money on whatever they choose . They have enacted laws to ensure that you do not have access to the books and minutes so you never know what is spent or on what on . Just a forewarning to the book keeper who writes the checks that the head of the NYPD sergeants association went to jail for stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars . Tough way to take care of the family from college . Speaking of that how many of this cabal actually went there ?
6/30/2024 05:31:00 PM
STFU liberal troll sissy boy and go play on a boystown blog
All calls from the ungrateful and unwashed shitbirds should go directly to a call center staffed by "community" activists, that way they get to the "root of the problem", you know, uh huh
I think 011 is still working on the backlog from 2 months ago.
Let me preface my comment with I am a son of a Chicago police officer 1968-2004. I LOVE and RESPECT the police and the vaunted CPD. I’m also a 30 year veteran of the Army who protected my men like my father taught me. That said, can you (the police) not do any better? Is there not a way to intelligently police? I understand that you have to protect yourself and your families. I feel that with innovative leadership and teamwork you could be more effective. CPD leadership (SGT and above) should be wargaming innovative ways to protect Officers and train them to work within the laws, protect each other and take criminals off the street. Police pay is good and staffing could be worse. It’s time for CPD to step up to the plate, reclaim its former glory and get respect back! Right now I sense you don’t respect yourselves and have effectively been beaten. I would offer when you go to work, look in the mirror and be proud to wear that uniform! You are CPD! YOU ARE that guy or gal that runs to the sound of the guns and helps those in their darkest hour. Be proud, smart and tough. Take our city back.
Look at the Unit Summary for each district about 60-90 minutes before check off. Half the cars are down on reports in the station. When the dispatcher calls them out - hold us down on lunch squad - also the new PDTs and CASE system blow. Almost as bad as the traffic crash reporting system. All these programs make every job take 50% longer than they should. Don’t even think of stopping multiple people - ISR reports take forever too.
These new PDTs work well in the field to write reports. Only your dog ass has to "hold me down on paper in the station"
Part of the issue is technology. You used to be able to cut a report in the passenger seat of a car. Now with the new PDTs every report requires you to proceed into a station to complete. Also the Sergeant ranks are too low. I remember when the Sgt’s used to be on your ass to get back and clear. Now the Sgt’s leave everything for the following watch. Half the watch is down on paper in certain districts
Be proud, smart and tough. Take our city back.
Got a good laugh. Thanks for the hooah speech POG.
......Take our city back.
7/01/2024 07:25:00 PM
It's not your city.
Chalkie
Every District had three wagons on every watch,traffic car,sector cars and minimum of three Sergeants and a Field Lt.
Captains on every watch, handled every roll call,police shooting,battery to a-police Officer.
same people that are victims of shootings, domestic violence,murders,open air drug markets in the hood, vote democrats in office
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