It Could Have Been This Guy
Paul Vallas guest posting over at The Contrarian. And quite frankly, the city and Department would have been better off:
Within hours of the final balloon falling from the ceiling of the United Center to close out the Democratic National Convention (DNC), the order came for Chicago Police Department (CPD) to return to “Normal Operations.” The directive brought an end to months of meticulous planning and preparation for the DNC. One day following the DNC’s farewell from Chicago, Mayor Brandon Johnson basked in national attention for executing a nearly flawless special event. Of course, having more police personnel than protesters certainly helped.
While Mayor Johnson deserves praise for overseeing an efficient DNC, so does Superintendent of Police Larry Snelling, who spent years training recruits at the Police Academy. Officers who were assigned responsibilities at the DNC attest that Snelling’s planning and training regimen left them better disposed to address expected protests. CPD’s effectiveness however will offer no respite from the demands for reform. However, it is time to acknowledge the Consent Decree may not be that reform vehicle.
As the decree enters the seventh year on which millions have been spent implementing and monitoring, it is obvious the decree is not working because it fails to tackle the real and often ignored reasons for the problems faced by CPD, largely the lack of resources and support and the political nature of hiring, promoting, and accountability. The failure of the Consent Decree to address these vital issues has taken a toll on the quality of its recruits, department leadership, and the system of police oversight.
The post is a bit longer than what would be quotable, and we don't want to steal all of The Contrarian's content, seeing as how they do this for a living and we do this as a hobby, but Vallas hits a number of points with unerring accuracy:
- the Consent Decree has failed insomuch as it relies on the measure of two things - controversial police shootings and complaints. Police shootings are essentially flat, because most police shootings are defensive in nature. Complaints, while skyrocketing initially, have fallen precipitously, and Vallas correctly points out that this is (A) a result of under staffing and (B) conscious disengagement (self preservation);
- the most obvious effect of the Consent Decree is how it has provoked a massive uptick in crime, something we and our readers predicted years ago. Imagine that.
- he proposes something that has been kicked around for years - a "reserve force" of retirees doing a bunch of the background work to free up front line Officer and Investigators. An interesting concept that deserves an actual look, and not lip service. He also suggests a return to the early days of CAPS, where Officer worked the same beat every day, knew the citizens and the criminals, and wasn't the bloated, overstaffed, house mouse-hiding, money-stealing enterprise it is today.
This paragraph made us laugh out loud though:
- Did we really need a court to tell us that the police need working cameras, tasers, sufficient supervisor-to-officer ratios, ongoing, redundant training, and a state-of-the art training center? Apparently in Chicago we do. The decision to withhold these vital resources were political decisions driven by some combination of budgetary considerations, poor prioritizing, or negligent leadership.
Sheeeit. You didn't even need a Court to tell anyone that. You had a blog, written for cops, run by cops with tens of decades of police experience, and backed by readers with centuries of street time, minimally censored and open to public view with ideas free for the taking....if you could ignore the language and dirty talk.
Labels: city politics, department issues
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Now . . FUCKING PAY ME !
Watch people get screwed (again) for not getting paid extra for working the 7th day.
"a "reserve force" of retirees doing a bunch of the background work to free up front line Officer and Investigators"
Thanks but no thanks . . I'm living miles away from that communist SHIT-HOLE and I'm never coming back.
I was at the DNC, a lot of good men and women working hard. Great job by the troops. Made me proud. On the other hand there were a bunch of goofy clueless bosses who have an IQ of an idiot.
The Chicago Police Department has the consent to decree because the politicians want to do it. I hope it sticks around long after I’m dead. I hope it’s here for next 500 years, all underneath democratic rule, and I hope everybody who keeps voting for him enjoys it.
I just can’t wait to retire. To late! I don’t care anymore, all my plans are for retirement and moving away. Good luck to the young officers who think it’s all
legit.
The Chicago Police Department doesn’t want professional anything. The Chicago Police Department promotes friends, family, bar bodies and nitwits. I think it’s a disgrace to even compare CPD to Annapolis and West Point. The bosses and CPD hold grudges and use rank for personal use. They don’t have the public in mind when using their authority as stupid-visors. Just a shit show. With a bunch of @$$-kissers.
The consent decree was/remains a vehicle by which millions of dollars are scammed.
It’s. All. Corrupt.
All. Of. It.
“.. it is obvious the decree is not working because it fails to tackle the real and often ignored reasons for the problems faced by CPD, largely […] the political nature of hiring, promoting, and accountability.”
The irony is that this statement EXACTLY describes Snelling and 98% of the command staff of Bossholes, few of which will ever face real consequences for their failings, shortcomings and incompetence.
The complete house needs a thorough cleaning, but it needs to start at the top. Only on CPD can people with baggage like Snelling, Eddie Johnson et al rise through the ranks to assume the role of Stupidintendent. Ditto for the aforementioned 98% of the command staff.
You wanna fix the CPD? Gut the promotional process of clout, nepotism, political influence, favoritism and the never-to-be defined “merit”… for starters.
What’s that? Did you say ‘Consent Decree’? Oh, right 😉…
Retirees are some of the most lazy do nothings you absolutely do not want them around in any capacity. Old timers are notorious dogs and also overtime whores, just look at the crop of overtime whores working special employment. Dogs every one of them.
If your hope is a Valas administration, you have bigger issues. The hope was the guy who said "chase them down like rabbits."
Old house mice will never relinquish their army of young house mice. It always benefits them, sitting around, gossip, smoking, online shopping, and taking turns to go home early.
Keen eye for the obvious. What will he point out next? That failing public schools lead to lives of under employment, drug addiction and stints in jail. The law firm monitoring the decree has a $50 million contract. Nuff said.
"You're only a pawn in their game." -Bob Dylan 1964
"There is no success like failure, and Failure is no success at all." - Bob Dylan 1965
" I used to care, but things have changed." - Bob Dylan 2009
There is no other occupation in the world that gets critiqued more than a police officer. The usual idiots come out and tell the police what they should do and how they should do it, by a group of people that have never done this job and have no desire to this job. Think about this for a minute, the police who get trained and have to pass a state exam in order to be a sworn officer are then told what they do is incorrect and they should have done this instead. That’s like a plumber telling a brain surgeon he should have done the procedure differently not because it’s wrong , but only because the plumber didn’t like the doctors technique.
"Professionalizing the CPD by removing politics"
Impossible
How many police officers are we short? What is the current estimate of the house mouse population? And how many members are part of Brandon's extensive secret service rival detail? There are so many unanswered questions! Additionally, how much funding for equipment may be redirected to address issues related to illegal criminal activities?How many illegals being delivered daily?
I have over 20 years on and am just waiting for the age to retire. I would stay on with CPD indefinitely if I had a role with zero liability. I think they’re losing a lot of good coppers with a lot left to give because they don’t want to put themselves in a situation where they could lose it all over one call. But tons would stay, or retire and apply to be rehired if they could work in some kind of capacity that keeps them away from lawsuits and complaints. Ie.. caps office, front office, background detective work, SDSC room. All these spots could and should go to retirees.
Easy Tiger
Paul Vallas is just another hack Democrat. He would have been 80% the same as Conehead, because he's a Democrat. I think Contrarian is tarnishing their reputation by letting him rerun his campaign on their pages.
Is anybody still on from the 90's hiring?
Kinda like the Cook county police...
The average law abiding Chicagoan is much more concerned with being shot, carjacked or killed as they go about their daily business. Maybe the consent decree monitors should focus on reducing crime paying particular attention to the courts, prosecutorial malfeasance, and judicial activism. But judges and prosecutors in Crook County are straight up democrats. Democrats are loyal to each other not the public which they took an oath to serve. And the monitors can still bank their millions as they are resident experts on all that is related to the criminal injustice in this city.
+1
You need to add a like button.
Is it safe to return to my pretty loft? Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Get some time on then you can join us for that sweet unlimited OT. Yes we are dogs and nothing is going to stop us from collecting that pension since we’re that close. Now go get those numbers so you can keep your spot, that’s the job of management officers to keep everyone happy and carry us old time dogs. Woof woof
Any copper who would apply to this city to be rehired after retiring, must be mentally retarded. Or on his third marriage with new kids in his mid fifties after a lifetime of boozing away his first two marriages. Nuff said...
RE-imagine a consent decree imposed on the Crapital Police who used unnecessary excessive deadly force under color of law on an unarmed women committing a misdemeanor property crime of trespass. And a white shirted Lieutenant got away with Constitutional violations and civil right violations. That is a rogue organization crying out for a gaggle of consent decree monitors and public oversight. The need civilian oversight radicals with marxist ideologies as guideposts for their one sided investigations.
But yet more millions for this:Habitat’s LeClaire Courts Redevelopment on Chicago’s Southwest Side Receives $27M Capital Loan Approval
https://yieldpro.com/2024/08/leclaire-courts/
Sounds like a nice place to live,amenities 90% low income,golly gee whiz wally who will occupy the other 10%? Old time coppers can remember when they tore down cabrini green,and developed condos many "urban pioneers," paid way to much money,and were shocked they were being robbed and burglarized by the felons still around the area. the same folks/people still were doing what they do!
An oversight conducted by a blue ribbon panel should objectively examine the cost/benefit analysis of the ad-hoc consent decree monitor and their impact on the quality of life in Chicago identifying those added enhancement to their quality of life.
These policies would take years to implement if the will to implement them existed. Then it would take a decade or two to trickle down through the department ranks. The "clouted" would fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo going. You know..."the good ole boys club" Until then, it is just a pipe dream, and a campaign platform to run on, and fail.
Lisa Madigan brought us the consent decree. Given her father's accomplishment currently in the federal criminal courts, maybe a Federal Consent Decree agreement should be symbolically signed by Lisa Madigan herself investigating the financial correlations between corporate lobbyists, elected officials and their attorneys on staff, and the related influence on public policy and legislation as a result of this legally permissible cozy relationship.
You forgot "it's all over now baby blue..."
Keep in mind.......this consent decree is a self-imposed monster that was rammed down our throats. Most consent decrees are federally imposed which comes along with funding to make the changes happen. This was not the case. Instead, the city has paid millions upon millions to a connected firm to tell us what we have been saying for years. Pure stupidity!!
Good point-I like rabbits. Chase them down like rats sounds better.
the democrats agenda::: blame all the problems on the white, working-class citizens while calling everything racist
he proposes something that has been kicked around for years - a "reserve force" of retirees doing a bunch of the background work to free up front line Officer and Investigators. An interesting concept that deserves an actual look, and not lip service. He also suggests a return to the early days of CAPS, where Officer worked the same beat every day, knew the citizens and the criminals, and wasn't the bloated, overstaffed, house mouse-hiding, money-stealing enterprise it is today.
This old white dude may be on to something after all, too bad the shit birds housed in the ghettos didn't vote for him...
"The interest is up and the stock market's down and you only get mugged if go down town" - Hank Williams, Jr. 1981
Settle in there big balls. I have zero clout so this is how I gits mine.
Years ago I was talking to a guy about O.W. Wilson. He said Wilson was brought in to reform the CPD after the Summerdale Scandal. He did a remarkable job to a point. That point was he next wanted to deal with the promotion system. That is when King Richard the 1st thank him for his service and showed him the door. I read Wilson's book on police administration, still a classic. One thing he wrote is that the patrol division is the back bone of any police department. What a funny concept.
Stay far away. Nobody wants you back
Get some time on, kid... And maybe...big maybe actually because your hard charging ways may get you fired, sent to prison and/or killed between now and then, you'll be an old timer some day too. Until then, wait your turn like a good little boy. We know you can. No pouting, or crying. Just man up kiddo.
Vallas refused to back LEO 100% during his campaign. He waffles and said he supported criminal justice reform.
Slow down Sparky
made no sense for antifa to show up at a democrat funfest.
The regime let out a few to make it look normal, but theyre waiting.
conehead is a ghetto mayor who wants to tuern chicago into a chocolate city
well,,,, no one asked you yet,,,,,, so stay there
does not matter who the democratic mayor is, he/she will never place the blame for the criminal activity on the criminals. They will always come up with a warm and fuzzy phrase to try and define why it happens
Sounds like 019 midnights. Dennis K is a cancer to the system
The Consent Degree is a Democrat wrecking ball designed to designed to crush pro-active policing. So far it's been a success, and this type of "success" is in progress here. It is interesting in terms of the Black Community thinking this is the ticket to reimagining the police and building trust in the community. Your success in reimagining police and building trust is typified by almost 2100 people shot and over 400 killed, officers leaving in droves and the Crook County Courts (and Kimmy) are a miserable failure. Lastly, no one has trust in the failed Crook County Criminal Socialist System or for that matter trust in the media. Just keep pissing more tax dollars on useless monitors. Trust and Chicago should never be used in the same sentence.
Nobody asked you to come back. Lol
I don’t know man, CH is a pretty cool dude.
You don’t have to have 20+ years otj to know proactive policing is dead and you shouldn’t be doing a damn thing besides the bare minimum. Even I know that with 15 years on. Guys that close to retirement shouldn’t be doing a damn thing. I know I wouldn’t. They’ve paid their dues and worked their asses off.
The City of Chicago would not spend money on training, equipment, or sergeants without the Consent Decree. They haven't spent much yet, but they will. If the City spent half the money on training, equipment and hiring more sergeants than they spent on settling lawsuits, CPD would be better off and the City would not be paying as much in lawsuits.
This may be debatable because suing CPD is now a way of living for some lawyers, that even when you do things right, you can get sued, and the City will settle because really it is cheaper to settle than to fight it to the end. Think about the cost of one deposition: your 8-hour tour, one stenographer, one video recorder, 2-3 corporation counsel attorneys at their wage, renting a room for the deposition (if not at a City location), typing the deposition into written form afterwards, versus just giving the plaintiff 1K to go away. Add the cost of deposing every officer on the case who is sued, and all the additional officers added just so the plaintiff just doesn't miss anyone. It's no wonder lawyers love to sue us, especially when the ASA drops charges for no reason other than you arrested a small fish in an ocean of sharks and whales.
If you've ever been sued and had your lawsuit go to trial (like some did under Weiss), you would understand.
I said the same thing when I was a young pup on the job and wanted to play all the time. Now that I am an old dog, I know why the old timers used to be the way they were. Words here cannot convey what the experiences of 25 years will teach one. So keep on playing pups, you will understand yourself someday.
As long as the Superintendent is appointed by the Mayor, that position will be political and that will flow down from the top, because the Superintendent will be beholden to his boss, and not to the people we supposedly serve.
Here's an idea, make the Superintendent of Police an elected position, and the superintendent is then beholden to the electorate.
Then see how the Mayor behaves. I can only imagine the crimes that superintendents have witnessed on the 5th floor and did nothing because that there was their boss they observed.
This is a 41 minute video showing Dan Bongino testifying about the Trump assassination attempt. Anyone who works for CPD will see the parallels in the incompetent bosses, DEI hires, and appearance over actual Police work.
https://youtu.be/2AdvpsNFRmY?si=JrSF_sxOPkRNrGdG
thats true with the shotspotter.
No officer with half a brain believes anything to do with CPD is legit, brother. We all just collect.
chump!
Caps needs to be revamped, it's beyond ridiculous that district are in a rap and there's officers just chilling making over 100k. Same with all administrative positions in this department. Complete revamp! All inside units and caps shpuld also be senority based, not because your friends with so and so or your sleeping with a higher up. We have a manpower crisis yes, but we also have way to many officers working indoors. Also we need to have a pay bump for street officers. We street police should be making 20k or more a year compared to officers who work inside especially in this climate nowadays.
Don’t know if the retiree idea is that great. Every dept that brings back retirees regrets it. They are working for bonus money and have no cares in the world. Congrats to them! They earned it, but it’s not a plan to fix our problems.
He is right. The hiring, promoting and lack of accountability fosters a terrible work environment. Theres too many bullshit games being played. You realize your dispatchers are coming from customer service jobs because they are connected to other city employees. Seriously you got like Burger King employees dispatching you.
High school degrees and worked in places like Burger King, Lowes. Hiring and promotions are a gigantic scam inside the OEMC. Never achieved anything in their lives until they show up to the OEMC and suddenly they can work for NASA.
well,,,, no one asked you yet,,,,,, so stay there
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I'm sure you're still living in Palos Heights Vallas. Go try to get ANOTHER job.
I work CAPS and do not give a flying f* about the district RAP. Your sector Sergeant can help clear jobs. Get some seniority kid or learn the game and start winning.
" he proposes something that has been kicked around for years - a "reserve force" of retirees doing a bunch of the background work"
What is this? 1974 under old man Daley?
All the retirees I know have LEFT this shit hole State.
Look what happened to the retired Bomb-tech that stuck around. Get real.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/teen-charged-murder-shooting-death-retired-chicago-police-bomb-tech
How can such a smart man be so stupid? Perhaps Vallas will some day realize the Democratic Party left him years ago. I had the same problem of loyalty for years but that is a two way street.When he comes out as a Republican watch how he gets elected to almost anything he wants in his SW Base.
Not a good idea, terrible idea. I hope you understand how the citizens of Chicago vote. Forget about your neighbors on the NW or SW sides. It’s a big city. We would have a liberal Supt that would destroy the CPD and couldn’t be removed if elected
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