DNC Evaluation
All sorts of praise from the media types, who still can't let go of 1968:
Yes, there were complaints the four-day event was over-policed, but that may have seemed the case because fewer protesters showed up than some had predicted. Even so, the demonstrators were able to send their messages out to the nation.
Overall, it was a far cry from the so-called “police riot” at Chicago’s 1968 Democratic National Convention. The answer to the question, “Can we finally put 1968 behind us this time, when the Democrats’ 1996 convention went smoothly and everyone seemed to forget it?” seems to be a strong yes.
We put it behind us after 1996. And NATO. And a few other large events that didn't garner any sort of bad optics. The cops from 1968 were pretty much gone when 1996 rolled around - kind of how everyone who ever served under Burge had long retired when the lawsuits appeared. Burge and 1968 were bogeymen, brought out to scare little children and pussified democrats. It was the media, specifically the Slum Times, publishing pieces from Bill Kurtis and Sneed and others about reporting the 1968 convention and they all had their leftist slant going. Fuck them one and all.
Anyway, the whole thing went pretty well. We'd probably give it a C-plus up to a B-minus. Obviously, some thing could have been done better, but name us an event that couldn't have. The big thing moving forward is what lessons were learned and will those lessons be applied properly to future events.
PLUS - Larritorious was out on the front lines, when no one had been since McCarthy at NATO. Good to see him there, even if it was just for show. Larry participated - again, so did Phil Cline on New Years Eve - so real or not, it was good to see.
PLUS - the Bikes were awesome. The mass arrests teams and processing, while minimally used, seemed to go of without a hitch. Administratively, it seemed to work well. Anyone who knows different, comment away, but the lack of complaints tells us something already.
PLUS - Most everyone got fed (aside from the expired and moldy sandwiches one
night) and we didn't hear that restroom facilities were unavailable when
needed. Stuff like that can always be improved.
MINUS - the planning and information sharing was lackluster. We're told via various sources at 35th Street that the order wasn't even sent to lower level exempts until three days before, assignments were vague and haphazard, no one knew what platoons were assigned to what supervisor, and even personnel changes were seat-of-the-pants due to certain ::ahem:: chosen ones being exempted from street duty.
Speaking of information, we have it from a few federal sources that correspond with us that they were not happy with how Command staff seemed to have no idea what was going on. They were happy with the zones of separation because it gave them plausible deniability (and a scapegoat) if outer perimeter breaches occurred. Thankfully those were minimal.
And -- information again - the cancellation of the cancellations on the final day. It couldn't have been that difficult to make the decision while everyone was still awake. And it shouldn't have been that difficult to arrange an unloading area where equipment could be sorted a bit more neatly than being tossed on the grass or tarmac at an unsecured site.
PLUS - the intermediate supervision - sergeants, lieutenants and even a few captains, was exceptional, and if Larritorious is smart, he ought to be building on that from this point forward for any future mass deployment issues. Find the guys and gals who got it done because of - or in spite of - the haphazard plan. Those are the people who should be thanked. Larry might be the face of the Department, but good leaders always direct the praise downward. It builds a lot of good will, and good will can be cashed in later.
PLUS - after numerous tents staffed by IAD and COPA were out there to accept any and all complaints about butt-hurt feelings, CWB says there were only eight complaints filed. Eight? Holy Crap. Back in '68, they were doing eighteen and more per hour. The restraint speaks volumes, hopefully good, and not because anyone was backing off.
UNKNOWN - the media was predicting upwards of 50,000 protestors. Permits and press releases hinted at a big turnout. Our estimates and those of our colleagues in the aftermath was probably less than 5,000. Actual trouble makers? Probably under 300.
We got lucky....or we got played.
We were "line of march" at NATO and there were more than plenty of black bloc and panti-fa jags all over the place and well into the nighttime hours. We didn't see them in any significant numbers at all, and from what we heard and saw, neither did anyone else. The cynical side of us says they were told to stay away or stand down lest it reflect badly on the Koronation of Kamala. We hate being cynical.
Hopefully, when it's all said and done, this is a starting point for a better response to big events and not a high-water mark for someone to look back on and wonder what happened in the intervening years.
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Folks did a good job.
Congrats!
Dear SCC, please refrain from such long posts, I got tired.
FOP was there grilling everyday. Much appreciated!!!
Who was the sgt f bombing recruits Thursday at Malcolm X? Just berating them in front of everyone.
I had the unfortunate assignment of being with an IAD (BIA) Sgt. who was clueless and a big fat liar. Where do these ass-holes come from. He was so self entitled. The whole BIA is a sham and should be dismantled.
Lt. R.D. of TRED ironically enough given his late father's history on the job was nowhere to be found when TRR'S were to be handled. 019 got fucked yet again, especially after PRIDE when TRR'S several days old and out of District and original area of occurrence were suddedenly dupmped on 019th District supervisors. Chief Ursetti of the Detective Division (also ironically, never a Detective, never spent 2 min in the D-Unit on any level) forces a poor 3rd watch 019th dist Lt. to handle their bullshit while the 001st,12th district, and Useless TRED Lt's get a pass. Fucking clowns. Nice way to avoid the upcoming lawsuits and potential COPA/Police Board firings.
Well put, SCC.
These companies need to better organized for a permanent assignment. For example each company should have the same or overlapping RDOs. In the event the need for these companies arises again they are easier to call up and utilize. Even if you just stick with the tier 1 teams and units. If something pops off you can call on those companies that should be near complete with the subtraction for furlough and dropped slips.
A big relief that eyesight-destroying lasers were not an issue.
“The cynical side of us says they were told to stay away or stand down lest it reflect badly on the Koronation of Kamala. We hate being cynical.”
Excellent point. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they are standing down for a while, but they never go away do they. Remember 2016 see below.
“Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies”
6.6M views · 7 years ago...more
Project Veritas Action. Oct 17 2016. Youtube.com
270K
If you say it's going to be a massive protest, you build for that protest, the protest is a 10th the problem you predicted, how do you not look good? Except for the budget. Is the city paying that bill or the DNC?
Very well written post.
CPD comes out of this looking like champions to me. Well done!
My speculation is that Soros etc weren’t funding the troublemakers. Was this to build on the “energy” of the DNC to keep Trump from returning to office? I’m thinking that’s why.
Group hug.
There were 11 murders over those 4 days, ffs.
Don’t t pat yourself on the back to hard, there were no Soros/Democrat paid protestors present this time. Useful idiots such as Antifa were told to save their energies for the next George Floyd or in case Trump wins the election.
This is for sure the comment of beached whale Lt Sullins 019 1st watch. Stay off the blog Ed. It’s so obvious it’s you.
Great job by all involved. Remember, the only ones pushing the 1968 convention....IS THE MEDIA.
Honestly I watched some of the videos of these assholes who were taunting and goading the police, getting right in their faces, trying to get them to (over)react. The cops showed admirable restraint. I don't understand why these a-holes think they have a constitutional right to do that, but maybe I'm just old-fashioned.
The usual assholes didn't show up because they realized hitting DHS or one of the other Feds on the head with a brick would lead to FEDERAL CHARGES. Crimesha would not be able to release or help them. The Feds made it a point to incarcerate the tresspassers at the Capitol a few years ago. If Trump gets reelected you know the Feds will be nowhere to be found. CPD will be on their own in downtown and elsewhere for the festivities...
Well earned participation ribbon for all.
Great job by all, and a lot of good luck. Nonetheless, everyone should NOT let their guard down. Most protesters are college kids with "young ideals" and little life experience. Their heart maybe in the right place, but they need life experience and a dosage of reality. However, the anarchist, antifas, black block members are not what they used to be. I dealt with them during NATO, and they were well organized and trained. Plus, they had plenty of funding. It only leads me to believe that as Law Enforcement we need to be very careful. You might not have well organized members of the radical groups, but I believe that now you will start to see the rise of "lone" actors trying to create havoc. So, please stay vigilant and remember that there are crazy radicals' hell bent on creating havoc. Remember that one person can create as much turmoil as a large group!
Good post, and exemplary job by all those on the front lines.
The bosses need to stop sucking off each other on what turned out to be alot about nothing. This DNC pales in comparison to what when on in 2020, NATO, Laquan, Trump election night, Black Friday and a myriad of other large demonstrations and scuffles that happened in 001 and 018 over the years that never got any newsworthy coverage thanks to City Hall controlling the media.
What about my cancelled days off? How do I get those back? When is the department going to be hiring more "qualified" recruits? Fu&k you Chicago, pay me....The next news cycle will be about how much overtime the police department is costing the city...
Agree. Yes the officers looked good and did a good job with what little bad behavior there was. It's a great start and practice for future riots.
The department should provide riot training more often and continuously throughout the years. But we know how that goes.
On police, and on fire, there are still a small number people who make sure the job gets done properly, in spite of the "leadership." Its too bad this small group has to be surrounded by lazy, stupid, deadbeats. The question you have to ask yourself everyday when you get up and go to work is, no matter how tired and frustrated you are, which group am I going to be a part of?
The number of protesters was small because this was not a political nominating convention but defacto coronation. The commie marxists overlords wanted this as smooth as possible so they told their minions to behave and that if they wanted to come to Chicago and act up they would have to do so on their own money.
It was a training exercise to prepare them for work in the community. If they can't take it in the academy, they won't be able to take it on the street. Is it snowing out? I thought I saw a snowflake
Don’t forget the Commander of 012, all of this went down in his district. He had to be out there more than 12 hours. We tend to forget that the commanders of 001, 009, 012 and 019 have to deal with large stadium events regularly. The DNC was enough for me.
The Bike Team always show up. They deserve a special award.
So they had the largest potential national/international audience for their protest message and they missed the moment? Seriously? I said this months ago that the disaffected groups are important to the Dem's strategy and to keep them in line they had to have been bought off- i.e., lay off the convention and you will get yours later. If we had any real journalist they would follow the money.
I personally think 1968 convention was great. I wasn’t there, but it looks like a bunch of idiots who needed an ass kicking got it. And I’m ok with that
I'm in agreement with how well our brothers and sisters handled the situation overall. There's not enough room here for me to sing their praises. You did us proud.
On another note, and I'm trying to choose my words carefully, so let me just put it this way...
To those people that intentionally went on the medical, ONLY* to avoid assignment to the DNC, either with a "BS" ailment or similiar "BS" plan, I'd hate to be in a foxhole in the military or a beat car, 'on the job' with you.
(*DNA to those actually afflicted/emphasis added)
I'll refrain from using the "C" word in this arena, but honestly it crossed my mind.
Finally, may God bless and watch over ALL our fellow first responders and military and THANKS, as always, for a Job Well Done.
I want my ribbon!!!! Please more colors for my uniform. All the ribbons I have are the ones for not doing any police work. Thank you CPD. It helps my ego all those free ribbons
DNC is charged to the feds..
Deputy Chief Don Jerome’s house mice and peas in a pods are trying to defend him. They don’t want to lose their clout.
They will meet their own demise.
Rumor has it, there's about 30-35 rehires, laterals and P.O.s sitting at the academy. All certified and should have been out on the street for the DNC instead they had them sitting in the academy doing nothing every day. That's a whole squad they could've had out there, I guess they got lucky shit didn't hit the fan. They sent out recruits but not certified P.O.s who's running that program were they hiding a bosses kid there? How does it take to push these guys out of the academy?
thought for FOP. any police officer that was threatened by a protester , should complete a case report. If called any racial names complete a police report as a hate crime.
Nice work! You probably earned your Mayor another Term
I don't know. But these recruits need to toughen up.
ssc please post i heard from a fed friend of mine (former air force members) that the secret service were not impressed with the commander structure from 35 th street referred them as weak, incompetence and unable to make a foward thinking decision on a brighter note they were impressed with our front line non clouted officers and there front supervisors
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) suggested President Biden likely blames his exit from the 2024 race on the Obamas, arguing he “didn’t want to go.”
Gingrich claimed during his Sunday interview with host John Catsimatidis that Biden, who served two terms as former President Obama’s vice president, holds the Obamas “directly responsible” for his decision not to seek a second term.
“We were told that he has still not talked to Nancy Pelosi,” Gingrich said
“I think he holds the Obamas very directly responsible. He thinks that the Obamas pushed him out of the way in 2016 for Hillary [Clinton]. And then he thinks that they sort of shoved him out [this year]. Basically, Speaker Pelosi and the Obamas were the driving force in kicking him out. He didn’t want to go.”
Protesters sought narco-cartels help to scale the DNC 10 foot border fence to create further chaos after realizing their overwhelming successes on the southern border. Tim Waltz was contacted and he declared he invested in a ladder factory which builds 15 foot tall ladders to defeat the convention's 10 foot border fencing. The highest officials at the democrat party committee contacted the narco cartels and told them if they assist with mayhem at the DNC convention there will be consequences. The drug cartels were warned their collaborative lucrative partnership between south if the border drug cartels and the the democrat's elected officials will end. The billion dollar human trafficking operations will be shut down and cease operations. And the fentanyl smuggling killing hundreds of thousands of Americans will be prosecuted as crimes under the currently weaponized democrat controlled dept of justice. And they will use RICO statutes to actually prosecute cartel partners and seize criminal enterprise assets and enforce existing laws on behalf of the American people.
What happened to the six foot personal spacing and covid facial masks at the convention?
Why does antifa.com redirect to whitehouse.gov?
Secret Servcie was tight lipped and sending out orders very last second. Everyone had to be fluid and pivot at the last second.
The first night the "protestors" at Adams & Clark DID try to use the 3K lume flash lights in the officers eyes. After the first dozen arrests the cowards ran away.
The rabid BLM and ANTIFA were paid to stand down and let the Muslim Extremists to hang dry.
All the hype of 50000 -80000 protesters coming over to burn town didn't happen. Even the night asshole thieves and robbers were noticibly absent.
Goes to show the Leftist politicians run the criminal enterprise for their political funding and benefit.
Hang the Leftists and all their criminal toadies.
Are soft a puppy shit?
Let the Sgt do his job.
I was very unimpressed with how the USSS looked and acted on 17 July 2024 in Butler Pennsylvania. They looked like they just woke up after a night of intoxication and prostitutes, like when they were in Columbia a few years ago. Yeah, real professionals.
Tim McCarthy was they last of a kind.
The Secret Service is throwing stones? They have proven themselves, from the top down; to be the Keystone Kopps
And they did. That was protesters and a demonstration. They trained in the fields of Grant Park to fight the police only to come up a little short
Do not forget the useless old mice who took care of young mice by having them on hiding spots such 2-man / 2-car station security, 3-man SDSC, 6-man front desk. Karma will coming for you then you'll have a special place in hell!
Rumor was that the POs asked to be released to help for the DNC and it was deny. Unknown the reason but the rehires are being keep there for over 3 months taking the same classes. Someone has to do something to get those guys out in the streets.
Grilling every day. Where? Saw them once. And about time. They were asked to come out on Bud Bilikin. Gave a straight up No. wouldn’t event supply water. They got that straight from PepsiCo. Only thing union cares about is politics and discipline, Seriously call them about any sort of question about pay, deductions, medical, OSHA. They got nothing
Great got a pat on the back then a Fu. Gonna cancel for Mexican Independence. Crickets from the union of course. Maybe they will come out and give us water like on Bud. Oh ya. They said no to that
Why rush into a beat car? Maybe you’ll finna be phone calls and straight to a unit or hq.
Months ago I posted that you guys would be ok as some even regular posters were screaming doom and gloom and the city ablaze and it didn’t happen it didn’t happen for a lot of reasons but mostly because the majority of you know how to be the police have common sense and know how to handle it despite bossholes
Great Job
Ed Sullins, I see you’re still putting your foot in your mouth.
Now back to reality. 30 shot and 6 kilz over the weekend. Over 2000 shot to date and over 400 kilz. Chicago - pretty on the outside and rotten to the core on the inside. Now move along, there is nothing to see here.
Says the smoker
Well Fed Ed is still working? He's been a multimillionaire since his days with the CIA in Hindu Kush 20 years ago. He proclaimed loudly to his captive audience at 610 that anyone who worked past 50 was a sucker. Haven't seen him since Staples dumped him for being the biggest OT thief in the D Unit. He did it as an SVU supervisor no less. Always striving to be number one.
Deployed 12hr tours to DNC field duties, your welcome. Stopped at medical today to drop something off and the line of 'officers' coming in to clear was out the door! Smh
Did you pass the test? District of occurrence WOL will handle TRR’s not tact Lt, not TRED Lt…so if you don’t want to do the job Ed, retire
Merely calling someone a name is a crime now?
The rabid BLM and ANTIFA were paid to stand down and let the Muslim Extremists to hang dry.
All the hype of 50000 -80000 protesters coming over to burn town didn't happen. Even the night asshole thieves and robbers were noticibly absent.
Goes to show the Leftist politicians run the criminal enterprise for their political funding and benefit.
Hang the Leftists and all their criminal toadies.
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Really? Who paid them?
A fine job by all. Thank you!
I know you all aren't fans of the current police chief, but he is SO MUCH BETTER than Shorty's clown from Dallas.
Nope. It was not violent because BLM assholes and antsniffa pussys were not present either. Just a bunch of hamassholes who created very little problems so don't get it twisted
All I seen were a bunch of white privileged liberal pussies ! These want a be punk made bitch protesters were a total fucking woke joke ! Sent them all home to there parents basements !
Sounds completely made up. Especially since the DSAC do the USSS Chicago Field Office fellated Snelling on TV calling him the best he’s ever seen!!!
From ABC:
On Friday, when the DNC was history, the Secret Service official that oversaw security saluted Chicago's police superintendent.
"I've been in law enforcement for 24 years. I've traveled the world and I've lived in cities all over their country. I have never seen anyone better than you," said Derek Mayer, Deputy Special Agent in Charge, U.S. Secret Service Chicago. "You lead an exceptional police department."
https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-police-department-superintendent-larry-snelling-secret-service-praise-cpds-dnc-security-operation-during-protests/15224064/
Wait until Trump gets re-elected.
Some had the nerve to ask their Commanding Officers for light-duty spot. They were told that they were being sent to callback so they magically healed.
Everyone claimed to have needed major surgery last week, but now they’re easing back to work.
Nope. It was not violent because BLM assholes and antsniffa pussys were not present either. Just a bunch of hamassholes who created very little problems so don't get it twisted
8/27/2024 09:23:47 AM
i dont have anything twisted.reading comprehension is basic if you read my post junior. you must be a joy to work with
GTFOH not happening
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