Qualified Immunity Gone in This Case
These cops and their supervisor from Normal, IL appear to have pretty much forfeited any sort of qualified immunity they think they might have been entitled to:
The Legislature wrote that qualified immunity doesn't cover willful and wanton disregard for the law....and the Court found that there is enough willfull-ness and wanton-ness within the accusations to allow this to proceed to trial. There will be a "listing of assets" very shortly.
Don't get trick-bagged by ignorance of the law, nor by supervisory ignorance of the law.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
37 Comments:
Guarantee you our tac guys would try to pull that shit on a law abiding citizen, so they can pat themselves on a job well done.
Support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic!! All that other crap in there is just fluff! Hopefully these kids being hired now get that!
Follow the Constitution.... Simple
A call comes out on a domestic between big brother and little brother, nothing big, just a code. However, in that call little brother said that there were guns in the home. Never once did little brother state that a gun was displayed. It was little brother trying to get big brother in trouble. Of course, tact appears out of the blue. It was discovered that two adults had FOID CARDS. Some young tact superhero wanted to search the home for possible guns. A WISE Sgt, on the Watch, told young hot shot that this was not legal. No laws were broken.
It’s this rush to get a Gun Pinch for Da Boss that has always gotten Coppers in Trouble. The Constitution is The Law. You don’t get to violate those rights simply because you want a gun pinch. But, what do veterans with nearly 30yrs on the job know. 2024 crime is newer these days.
Had Fatass weighed-in on this?
And the TBL wonders what happened... "...Why all the hate and distrust from the 'civilians'???..."
Right from the gitgo, are these officers now Giglio impaired? The rest of the fireworks are yet to come for these officers.
Normal is not normal. Now, kees me you fool!!!!
This case of FOID revocation is beyond insane to me. Hope the victim wins millions from the officers involved! 2nd Amendment is sacred to us ALL. Cop or not.
The police are now just security guards with a pistol. Don’t do more than you are able to and don't do less either. Stay on course and respond accordingly. Respond to your assigned calls, back each other up, cut paper and make an arrest if need be. Thats it.
Our "Tack-Tickle" teams would have fabricated charges against this citizen and permanently confiscated his weapon before the sun went down.
This guy is one of the best Second Amendment commentators on the web. Not too long winded or in love with the sound of his voice.
Those three officers if convicted deserve to fired, fined and jailed. At the very least the false report allegations should result in immediate suspension.
And it obvious that the Constitution was not taught in the police academy. And Illinois once again leads in embarrassment to the nation.
Years ago I went to the First District and worked with a guy who had just been dumped from the Testicle Team. We had a call from Ronnie's Steak House on Wabash where you could still get a good steak dinner for 6 bucks(?). A woman complained that the manager stole her purse and hid it in his office. The manager let us take her to the office to search for the purse with her present. We looked for it and it wasn't there but we did find a gun in the office desk. The manager, who was just a working man, obviously knew nothing about it and just about shit himself when we found it. The Ex Testicle Guy from One wanted to lock him up for Felony UUW which probably would have cost him his job. I made it a voluntary weapon turn in so the guy from One could get points for a gun recovery. I didn't give a shit myself....you could still get a good steak dinner for 6 bucks at Ronnie's after that...less with your police discount!!
Our tact guys will lock up the family man traveling through Chicago with a gun when they live in Wis because “they don’t have a foid”.
Is this a "normal" standard of CALEA certified agencies?
Just answer service calls, nothing more.
That's what they want today.
What are the rules for commingling personal finances with union funds? Asking for a friend.
Town of Normal and NPD enjoy these sort of self inflicted legal battles. Best of luck to the plaintiff
Or by lying............
I'm no fan of red flag gun confiscation laws, but I think SCC and Washington Gun Law are rushing to judgement by taking this lawsuit at face value. Maybe, just maybe, the events of this incident didn't play out the way the plaintiff's attorney claims.
Good. The cops should be charged with falsifying a report, the individual should get full compensation for court costs, legal costs and mental anguish. I fully support this. I'm always in here talking about whatt you, as cops, will do to keep you pension if ordered by superiors. By superiors, I mean the mayor and his staff. You should fear the citizens.
They're fucked.
You're absolutely right! I've seen it with my own eyes more than once.
Hee hee! One of the NOT Normal cops just showed up...
Confiscation of property so you could get dogfood grade meat? $6? RE-tard! “Points” Dafuq you on bruh?
Defund Tact Teams
This is normal in Normal. Twenty years ago my ex (and my daughter) were living in a house down there temporarily. The basement apartment was rented to another family, and my ex heard the wife downstairs getting the sh*t kicked out of her and screaming for help. She dialed 911, NPD showed up 45 minutes later after the guy split, gave the bleeding wife a card for DV and then went upstairs to scold my ex for wasting their time. The officers went back and angry-apologized after I got to their watch commander. F*CK those guys. List your assets.
William Kirk will be at GATS GUNS in East Dundee on Oct 14th. Visitors welcome
Could not have said it better myself. These new popo's being hired, not all but many are brainwashed with these DEMOCRATIC POLITICOS and their agendas to disarm us all. Very Bad. While the real criminals are creating havoc and well protected by the same fu@#en DEMOCRATIC POLITICOS.
Civil lawyers will bust these Normal Coppers out so bad they Wiffes' will DeVorce Um & take Half that Copper Pension, Boyfriend gets a New Bass Boat too! Book-em Dano! Narly Constitution done got Capt. Adams in NYC today.
You'd better not just "know the law". You also need to keep up with court rulings that sometimes change prior case rulings affecting enforcement of laws, or hold the law as unconstitutional, even if our Legislature never updates the statutes afterwards.
Case in point: IL Supreme Court just ruled that BY ITSELF, the odor of marijuana in a motor vehicle is NOT grounds to search. That overturned a long-standing ruling allowing such searches. Wonder how many CPD officers and supervisors know about this yet??
Probably lowered standard hires. If you are too dumb to think you are above and become a brown shirt with a star, you deserve to lose everything. and do time,
Fuck off, TROLL!
A big problem is the non-response by Legal Affairs. After a court ruling like this the Department Office of Legal Affairs should issue a directive with instructions to officers on how to proceed in these incidents.
Imagine being the officer responding to this situation thinking it's a good idea to screw over the law abiding citizen who did nothing wrong. Dumb asses.
It's easily proven that the officers reported to the state police that the plaintiff was charged with agg assault when they knew he wasn't. They're guilty of at least being stupid, but knowing this fact alone isn't a rush to judgement.
STFU new guy
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