Skip What Now?
The previous temptation to kick this can down the road has led directly to the financial crisis Chicago finds itself in.....and you'd think that the morons in charge might learn a lesson about that.
Nope:
The harried search by the City Council and Mayor Brandon Johnson for ways to avoid raising property taxes — and in turn, the ire of their constituents — is leading them back to a question all too familiar in the halls of power in Chicago: Should they spare taxpayers financial pain and themselves political headaches now, even if it costs far more down the road?
Some officials are rallying around the idea of diverting surplus dollars from past years’ budgets that were set aside to keep the city’s pension funds afloat. The “advance” or “supplemental” pension payment Johnson wants for 2025 is $272 million, just shy of the $300 million tax hike he called for then abandoned last week in the face of an overwhelming council revolt against it.
Cutting that pension payment is among the most straightforward fixes floated to fill the gaping property tax hole in Chicago’s budget. But there are plenty of warnings against skipping it, including from Johnson’s budget team and municipal finance experts.
Wasn't there a State Law passed that required payments to the pension funds? Are the FOP and the PBPA and Firefighters Local keeping track of this? there's legal recourse if they start skipping payments, yes?
It sounds like the government eggheads are going to claim since this is "supplemental" that it isn't part of the regular payments and can be redistributed at Conehead's will?
Regardless, the city will make its regular, required pension payments to its four funds in 2025, totaling roughly $2.6 billion.
“When you say supplemental it sounds like extra,” Chief Financial Officer Jill Jaworski said. But the city’s four pension funds are in such dire straits, the supplemental payments only help stop the bleeding, she said. Continuation of the smallish payments now would help shrink the city’s pension contribution tab by $3.9 billion through 2055, according to Jaworski.
Sounds like they're about to play fast-and-loose with some major cash in the knowledge that they're all going to be out of office when the bill comes due.
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Fuck you....pay me
What "legal recourse"?
That fund has been short for how long? Underfunded, borrowed against and not paid back, ect, ect... Let me know all of the people who went to jail so far. I'll wait.
Everyone better vote these @$$-holes out! Everyone having a city job and retiring will be in dire straits at a time in their lives when they won’t be able to work. Old age and in retirement with no income. Talk about screwing the workers like Ebeneezer Scrooge, with no happy endings at all! If there is no money in the end for retirement how will 99.99999% of the people who worked live. That’s assuming a few that might have someone who can and will take care of them. Parents will have to live with their children, and the children taking care of the parents because they have no retirement.
This city is so screwed up! Vote everyone of these @$$-holes who think this is a good idea out……….
Did BLM Brandon even teach mathematics while at CPS?
The bosses on this job are the biggest jag offs and don’t have a clue.
“ ‘Hopefully Donald Trump Will Address You’: Chicago Residents Slam Mayor Brandon Johnson for Tax Hike Proposal to Pay for Migrant Crisis”
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Another loser pissing our tax dollars away.
“ Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker Vows to Boost Sex Changes to Thwart Trump Agenda”
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The city is ran by idiots. I guess city workers are expected to live in homeless camps and all while begging for money near expressway on and off ramps. What a plan.
Retired in Texas……
Yep…….here we go with the bull sh!t…..
Bet the city council’s fund is not in dire straights…
Stay safe out there first responders….
That POS doesn’t have the money, but wants to keep bringing illegal aliens to Chicago. Progressive Socialist Democrats are trying to destroy America city by city and state by state.
Yes, the ARC or intercept…what happens is if the city does not make its pension obligations any tax return that comes from the state for the tax collection of goods and services that are collected will be diverted straight to the funds.
Why don't we hold a vote? Cut the contribution or raise property taxes. Let the voters decide themselves if they want higher taxes or rents or if Chicago pensioners, some getting more than 100k a year for life,can retire at 55, and move somewhere else keep getting their payments. It's time to put this vote directly to the taxpayer.
How about running the city like a real business?
Down size city government, do layoffs and spending cuts.
"The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end. "
The math is there's no money.
You setup the system.
You're a funny funny guy....
My Dad told me long ago. Son there are 2 kinds of people in this world , there's weasels and there are weasel slappers ! And politicians are definitely weasels!
Kicking the can down the road has turned into kicking the bowling ball down the road.
BJ is going to divert our pension payments to give the teachers a raise.
Everyone needs to retire with a PO pension it’s the only way to safe the fund!
Close the underused schools.
Why doesn’t he cut pension payments and start making cuts at the Board of Ed? You wonder how his pal Stacy Gates would stand for cuts at schools that are operating at 20 or 30% capacity? Contractual considerations? Never bothered him before.
Wasn't there a State Law passed that required payments to the pension funds?
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In December 2010 the Illinois General Assembly passed and then Governor Quinn signed legislation (Public Act 96-1495) that created a new tier of pension benefits for public safety employees in Illinois hired on or after January 1, 2011, including Chicago police and firefighters. The legislation also significantly changed the City of Chicago’s employer contributions starting five years later in budget year 2016. https://www.civicfed.org/civic-federation/blog/chicago-police-and-fire-employer-pension-funding-changes-passed-illinois-gener
Goal of 90% funded by 2040 (2015 -2040, so 25 years)(Rahm postponed it by 5 years, actually slowed the first 5 years, making it a 20 year plan, 2020-2040)
In 2015 the city paid a total of $300.6 million for both funds (police and fire). This was prior to the law. In 2016 the payment jumps to $839.0 million for both funds. In 2020 the city was projected to pay $1.3 billion for both funds.
For police alone, the city paid about $800 million in 2022. It goes up every year. In 2026 it is estimated to be about $975 million, for police alone.
"...our government-must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow."
Eisenhower's Farewell Address (1961)
Said an old white guy long ago.
Miriam Santos went to jail back in the nineties. She stopped Daley from "borrowing " our pension money. He was gonna pay it back, ya see? She sat in prison for about a year until a Federal Judge looked at the case and ordered her release. The FOP should give her an award for sacrificing herself to look out for our money but I'm guessing she's still in hiding. We now refer to this type of political retaliation as " Lawfare". Blagojevich, while certainly being a very typical Snake Demo politician ended up the same way. In jail for bullshit. Guilty of pissing off The Combine.
Pensions? Don't talk about pensions. You kidding me? Pensions? I just hope we can get another paycheck.
That can is getting worn out. Time for a new one to kick.
What happened to all that restaurant tax, hotel tax, entertainment tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, alcohol tax, cigarette tax, marijuana tax, gambling tax. All that's left is Prostitution tax. Yes maybe that will finally solve all of the city's need for more and more money. Vote YES on the next resolution concerning legalizing prostitution. Help save the city and the teachers union and city pensions.
Sounds like they're about to play fast-and-loose with some major cash in the knowledge that they're all going to be out of office when the bill comes due.
Typical democratic move
The fucking writing is on the wall right in front of you’s ! Chicago is broke, and soon to be headed into bankruptcy complements of the progressive socialist Democratic Party, the blue gummed, camel tooth ignoramus cone head aka the black plague ! More fees, more fines, more taxes will solve everything ! The incompetent shit head won’t dare cut the CPS’s bloated budget for the woefully Under utilized Failing public school system ! His CTU masters Wouldn’t allow that from the punk made bitch puppet ! He spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on illegal alien sanctuary city bullshit, and are now flat fucking broke, and now want to divert pension payments to fill part of the bloated budget hole ! This is a total disaster about to happen, and you mentally defective sheep voted this imbecile into office, and are getting exactly what the fuck you voted for ! Reap what the fuck you morons have sown ! There will be no more federal money from the Trump administration to bail you out of our self made socialist financial dilemma !
You fuck around with my pension payments and you're in Fuck Around and Find Out territory.
Maybe you fucking asshole criminals in City Hall and City Council should have not spent hundreds of millions of dollars on ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO BROKE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW!
You assholes are facilitators to a criminal conspiracy. I hope all you assholes get charged with RICO and Treason.
Yes, the funds will be diverted from State of Illinois.
Join us next time when we find out: "It's just Dems being Dems;" or is it, "Just Tit for Tat?"
Lemme get dat check
100% correct, people should vote whether or not if they want to pay for migrants, abortions, sex change operations. Put it in a referendum that you are willing to pay for these things with your tax dollars, if you vote no you don't have to pay, if you vote yes you do.
Is that piece of dirt Kersten at the funeral of slain Officer Enrique Martinez? If so, she should be shunned. She is partly responsible for his murder.
Can't squeeze blood from a turnip......
You are going to get less up front in your pension checks.....in the future. They are hoping you die off before full payment is made.
im glad that pos lisa madogan was not at officer martinez funeral hey lisa i hope you n your father someday burn in hell
More like frontal lobe lobotomy’s to increase the number of dumbocratic voters ! It’s gonna be great when Trump/Vance take office, and cut wasteful federal spending on these socialist,Marxist programs This useless fat fucking tub of shit ,along with the whole Commiecratic Party is gonna be pissing, moaning , and crying like the cuddled bitch’s that they are ! These corrupted ass mother fuckers were confident that Harris / tampon Tim we’re gonna win the election !
Oops you lose, and ain’t got nothing coming so fuck around and find out, and you better hand over your illegal alien criminals for deportation, or your ass will be further sanctioned ! I predict Pigster is gone come the next election !
Can’t the Feds just take over the pension and take all the cash they need till the pension is fully funded?
just cut the fucking bloated budget already!!!!! im certain the hogs can live on 17 billion, probably 10 billion
Former Mayor Daley attended the funeral mass today.
A good start would be to reduce the city treasurer's budget. She's had at least 2 retired CPD patronage hires/personal security guards which cost the tax payers over 150K last year. There was never a credible threat to her or her family. If being called the "money lady" scares you, then find another fucking job. A check of the City's payroll shows that 1 is no longer on the payroll and 1 is now listed as an assistant to the city treasurer with a significant pay raise.
conehead has a nephew that sells dope in broadview n maywood total ghetto class family
Fat ass also forgave tens of millions of medical bill debt for the usual suspects. So glad I contribute nothing to Illinois anymore.
Sounds like you regret not having a pension or simply are jealous and aren't a firefighter,paramedic or police officer.
There are also weasel chokers.
He is just paving the way right now for his 2028 democrap-tic nomination for President
When gang members are arrested, instead of prison, give them the option to fight in a televised gladiator ring. Or a Running Man type of deal. Charge pay-per-view and the city will make billions.
No...
It's not the way voting works, majority rules. Are first responders the only pensioners? I don't think so, see the school administrators getting 150k a year pension. Sorry big boy, I'm just giving you the news flash...
And you think it's sustainable? Ain't you a dear...
We're shaking, really, I mean, we're like super afraid dude.
There is a very good article in the Wall Street Journal (it is behind a paywall) about the movement in Central and Southern Illinois to secede from Chicago and make two states, northern Illinois and southern Illinois. Northern Illinois would be Chicago and democratic and southern Illinois would be primarily Republican. They interviewed several people for the article from Watseka, IL. One person interviewed stated she thought the tipping point will come in 5 to 7 years as the State of Illinois budget deficits are projected to reach over $5 billion annually and there will be no way to raise taxes high enough to cover the massive future deficits coming down the road primarily because of pensions.
President Trump will in no way attempt to help Pritzker deal with this situation via federal money because he views Fat Ass as a potential opponent to JD Vance in 2028.
Tell us where shitbag lives, some of us work the area.
What do mean I'm funny? Funny how ? Funny like a clown ?
As predicted by a commenter here, BLM Brandon is now proposing a "meager" increase of just $150 mil! Well! That's more like it! Watch the citizenry and aldercreatures go for the flimflam!
Finally, a useful proposal. It's their body, their choice.
Maybe if our mayor stop wasting money on his wife’s luxurious office supplies we would be alright.
"We're shaking, really, I mean, we're like super afraid dude.
11/18/2024 08:00:13 PM"
Go fuck yourself you fucking scumbag piece of shit. You fuckers think you're insulated? LOL
The first part of your comment is succinct, concise and to the point. It is further confirmed by their lack of leadership, actions and deeds. The second part - one can argue the "Bosses" know what they are doing as the continue to the maintain, support and milk the corrupt system which spawned them in the first place. They thrive and survive in an inefficient, demoralizing and deceitful environment. They know how to "get theirs" at the expense of the rank and file, the Department and the citizens.
Force the idiot mayor to make cuts in the city administration. He has no balls. The Aldermen have the power let's see if they know to use it.
Blather.
And you think it's sustainable? Ain't you a dear...
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SCC asked if there was a law passed you absolute clown
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