Retiree Wave Growing
One of our old contacts from the source-of-all-evil (HQ) mentioned to us at the drinking establishment church service the other day that on 15 January, almost one-hundred-twenty-five Officers left the job.
Combine that with our recent post about no job openings listed for actual Police and the manpower issue takes on a serious note....again.
Conehead already proposed (succeeded?) in the old 9.5 Dwarf trick of eliminating vacancies in the budget, then claiming CPD is "up to strength." Rahm got rid of nearly 2,000 spots that way, and Conehead was looking at another thousand, minimum.
Now, all the people hired with Clinton anti-crime money started maxing out last year and even more will continue maxing out for another two years - probably around 3,000-to-4,000 cops total with this summer probably being the biggest retiree numbers in thirty or forty years.
Anyone hear the Conehead Plan for weathering this storm?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
143 Comments:
The solution was to invalidate bump cards
They gonna make sdsc room sit 3 deep.
The front office ordered more chairs
I left early.
I wasn't old.
Never felt old, until my recruits started returning.
It's official, I'm old.
Without police to report crime/ enforce laws the City’s record of criminal activity will diminish giving the appearance of reduced crime. And with Chicago media in tow not reporting crime, once again Chicago will be the safest city in the nation. Smoke and mirrors.
"Anyone hear the Conehead Plan for weathering this storm?"
Increasing the pay or benefits to retain or attract labor is out of the question.
The Conehead plan is to bust the pension fund. Get ready.
Congrats to those who persevered. Keep mind and body sharp. Find a new groove and pray for the kids left behind who still believe in fighting the good fight.
“ Now, all the people hired with Clinton anti-crime money started maxing out last year and even more will continue maxing out for another two years - probably around 3,000-to-4,000 cops total with this summer probably being the biggest retiree numbers in thirty or forty years.”
Correct. Leaving 15 June. There’s a shit ton of us 1991-1995’ers bailing. We’re all maxed but a lot had to stay for the age. This prison sentence is just about over!
Mayor BJ: "It's a natural defundalization. Nothin' to see here, move along, move along..."
The days of a star and three bars are long over, it's 29 and out if not less. All set for bon voyage on February 15 2026
Love it. When I leave this job, I’m going to start a tell-all podcast of how screwed up the CPD really is. This job went into the toilet.
The In-competent upper management along with politicians destroyed the CPD.
Elwood Blue says...
It wasn't a lie, it was just bullshit.
Mayor Conehead and Governor JP Lizzo are envious of LA Mayor Karen Bass and Governor Gavin Newsome in their quest of deploying Democrat politics upon the people of that City. But just give them more time, they are slowly applying the Democrat method to Chicago. Not as much flash but they are trying.
If your are 55+ with 29 and a day on the job, why are you here?
Years ago, working for good bosses made officers stay a little while longer. Today, officers are barely making it to 20 years before pulling the plug.
Anyone hear the Conehead Plan for weathering this storm?
Violence Interrupter Personnel
I'm outta here after 31 years on this job and nothing will stop me!
He's going to reduce the size of his security detail to 145 cops.
Yes sites Bob
Man on the street says...
Voting Morons into Power has Consequences ask the People in Britain, Sweden, Australia and...California.
Midnight basket ball leagues ?
It's the right thing to do but recognize it's the end of the city. Once the new hire types get to a certain number, policing ends and shakedowns and graft get kicked into high gear. I feel for the people that don't see it coming.
The plan is the narrative that crime is down so no need for five o
His plan is to defund the police by retirement. Simple as that. The teachers need the extra CPD MONEY.
Makes more sense for them to retire now that their social security benefits have been granted. Look for more to follow with that extra retirement income.
January 20 2025
One step for man, one giant leap for mankind
GOD Bless the USA
Mayor Conehead can always use the race card.
God Willing I'm retiring in May 2026. Can't come soon enough.
I wish all the retirees the best as I do those young kids coming on the job but, the, “Brain Drain” will be profound. We are in very uncharted waters with the lack of training, manpower and FOCUS of the young kids. Nothing but prayers for all involved.
You'll get worked like a rented plow mule. RDO's cancelled all summer long. Extreme burnout.
Mayor Conehead say what...
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.
Next month. Good luck to everyone else who has to stay.
Just do the bare minimum and let the democrats enjoy the police service they deserve.
Did you get a preemptive pardon?
As a retired who retired spring of 2024 I'd like to give some advice to officers especially those that plan on retiring in the next 5 years. Here is what I found to be a game changer in retirement....get your house paid off before retirement! If you do this you'll never have to work a day post retirement unless it's out of boredom. I've been really surprised how many retired officers are working out of necessity so what's the point of retiring. Having no mortgage in retirement literally was the game changer. If you need to cut back a bit on deferred comp also instead of of increasing contributions with raises apply it towards the mortgage and excellerate your mortgage payments. I haven't touched deferred comp since retirement and I have no mortgage. I would rather have $200,00-400,00 in deferred comp and have no mortgage payment of $2,000-$3500 than to have $500,000-800,000 in deferred comp and making monthly payments of a couple thousand a month. Personally for me this has allowed me to enjoy retirement much more, just some advice that may work for you . In my 30 year career I have never heard another officer give this advice as an option while still currently working.
As a former trustee, I sounded the alarm two years ago that CPD is heading for a 3,000 manpower shortage.
I can’t see how there is a way out of this no matter what this JO tries. Few want to be the police in dem cities, and less than a few are applying.
Seems every January many do retire. Just look at the FOP website,
This is how to defund the police without the political fallout. Make things so fucking miserable no one wants the job. Look for a police job elsewhere. Those that stay, take your time getting to jobs. Pace yourself. Try not to stress out. Take your three mental health days when necessary. I worked in a district where the desk would put the captain on the line for you to hit the medical. The captain told one of the guys he'd better be home when the sergeant came by for a medical check. Dude replied "..I got two frozen pizzas, three porno movies and a case of beer. I'll be waiting right here..."
There are fewer and fewer spots on the daily roster. No need to man 2 in shotspotter, 10 in caps, 8 upstairs and have four 99 beat cars
The Conehead plan was always to give CTU priority. Police, fire are inconsequential The future of Chicago is the children
That dickhead doesn't have a plan... Unless Stacy Gates gives him one...
You don’t even have to go back to the Clinton era hires. Late 2004 through 2005 and 2006 had over 1000 people hired. The January 05 class just hit their 20 years. With the way things are going now and more people looking to get out this could be another group that begins to hit the eject button before the plane ceashes.
Start deputizing people with excellent shooting skills.
The plan consists of a lot of sand, inserting head within said sand.
God help you if you have close to zero seniority. Back in 2020 the no good WOL's/commander forced 1st watch kids to stay extensions on all four of their days. The same officers held over, over and over, day after day. Some of these officers with late jobs and stayed well into 3rd watch just to have to return at 2200 for their 1st watch. The hatred and resentment for this department on their faces couldn't be hidden. But the no good bosses couldn't care any less. Perhaps a repeat is incoming.
Just a few long months till 29+day and this nightmare will be over.
Just stick your head in the sand and hope everything works out all by itself.
I got hired in the mid 90s, made Sergeant, off the list.... leaving next year with the age, and over 30 years, to lock in the pension....researched Detroit bankruptcy, retirees got 91% pension, no COLA...preparing for something like that here...take care of your health, everyone...it is the only thing that matters..forget about this psychotic city, there is life after this job
"" at the drinking establishment church service the other day" Thanks for the first laugh of the day!!!
Leaving at 50 with 27+ years, you can keep the insurance and shove it up your ass. I feel for people without an option but being able to jump on the wifes insurance is a godsend.
If your are 55+ with 29 and a day on the job, why are you here?
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Have you met my wife?
Conehead won't be running for re-election so he won't care about the numbers...and it actually goes along with his mission to destroy the police department.
Wise advise
Love it. When I leave this job, I’m going to start a tell-all podcast of how screwed up the CPD really is. This job went into the toilet.
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John Garrido? Is this you?
You talked to the wrong guys. I retired a while back with no mortgage but some stock investments and deferrred comp. With the kids gone now and when I hit 701/2 I had to start taking my deferred out. I was lucky with the investments and now make more money in retirement than I did on the job. With planning and some luck it can be done. Stay positive
want to put a few more cops on the street to start? Disband recruiting and retention. Fewer officers have been retained and you can see the stellar group of people that have been recruited over the past few years.
Retired in March, 1998 with 33 yrs. A long time retired and moved to a nice rural, friendly community. Worked a couple of part time jobs but do not miss the city or the job. I have no connections to anything city related. No FOP, I have my own health care supplement and actually saved money from what they offered. Bad thing is I occasionally wake up from a nightmare that I’m back in the city and on the job. No regrets, zero, none, nada.
Glad you're enjoying retirement. While paying off your mortgage might help you sleep at night it may not be the smartest move. I for example have a mortgage with an interest rate of 2.79%. My deferred Comp and other personal investments are yielding over 14%. I'll gladly take the profit on my investments rather than pay off the house. You can also write off mortgage interest up to $300,000. If i could get 2.79% I would take out more money on the house and invest in the market. I also took a job making another $100K on top of my pension. Not because I have to, because I want to. There's more to life then sitting at home collecting a pension and telling the same war stories over and over. To each there own.
Why would anyone stay past 55 and 29 and a day.
District house mouse rear ends are puckering
Not leaving Jan 15, put in their par form to leave later. Numbers are normal.
College tuition for children. You must do 10 years of police while also paying back tuition to pay off loans. Everyone isn't a minority that their child gets reduced tuition.
Unless your mortgage rate is sub 3.0%. Then don't pay it off. You make more in a CD.
Please post a link here.
Sounds like good times.
Conehead's plan is to steal everything that isn't nailed down, give the store away to the CTU and to cry racisims any time he gets called out on it.
In his spare time he will screw over any cop that dares to inconvenience any people or folks from his community.
Damn that was quick. The entire department has taken a nose dive… but make sure you have those bump cards and don’t forget to attach the doctor’s progress notes. If you fail to get the notes the card will be rejected by the medical section at the request of Superintendent Snelling.
The sad thing about all of this is that Superintendent Snelling can’t mentally get past “Welcome To The Gym.” That was his power. His mind is still stuck on bump cards and uniforms. The stuff that’s mainly enforced in the academy. While uniform and appearance is important. The Superintendent should be focus on more pressing things like morale, incompetent/careless leaders, officer safety, strategies, liability, reform, etc.
In my district, the moron DSS would transfer officers to the WOL when officers requested to be placed on medical roll. The obese WOL would answer the phone with “whattttta do youuuu waaaaaant!!!” Is if he was annoyed and pissed(intimidation tactic). When the duo realized the scare tactic wasn’t producing desired results they both resorted to not even placing officers on the actual medical roll when we called in. Not even kidding, many of us would need to call 2nd watch to be placed on the roll. What a bunch of clowns.
If you did 30 years and still had a mortgage, you did something wrong my friend. Just ONE extra payment a year on a 30 year nut knocks it down to 23 years. There’s things called “Amortization Tables”… you shoulda looked at them before you committed to a 30 year term. Then there’s always 15 and 20 year terms. Trust me, it doesn’t take much discipline and minimal extra money per month (whether via OT or a side gig) to make that happen while staying maxed in DC and contributing to additional investment vehicles. I also used my tax returns to make an additional annual payment. I bought my house with 10 years on and it was paid down off when I started my 27th year. But yes, I do agree that not having a mortgage in retirement is huge.
I wouldn't doubt it.
Hello DROP Program!
Most of them have no life, and/or they can't stand being at home with you-know-who.
I’m sorry but who retires with a mortgage? Is that a thing? I’m going on 18 years and my house is already paid off. With the amount of money we make there is no reason you cannot take a 15 year mortgage. And if you can’t, you really cannot afford the house you bought. When it comes to the 457b, your money almost doubles at 10% return every 10 years so that 500k you retire with turns into 1 million in 10 years. You pull out 4% and now you are collecting 40k a year on top of your pension.
Hahaha that's what the medical is for. Don't think for one second this department is going to balance the sheets off of my back.
If judges won't sentence mutts, and prosecutors won't prosecute mutts, we don't need police officers to arrest mutts anymore. That's the Mayor's plan.
Bought my house at 28 years old the wife and myself worked our asses off put two children through college. Paid my house off at 37 years old. Never had a car payment bought new cars paid cash have over 1 million and deferred comp sitting retired after 30 years worked a little bit of part time just for the heck of it Never took lavish vacations now we can do whatever we want. Everything is paid for that was great advice that you gave.
This one term fucking moron doesn’t have a plan, or even gives a flying fuck ! All this useless ignoramus is concerned with is his fucking pension ! Hope this Jagoff fights Tom Holman in deporting all the illegal fucking aliens, and ends the fuck up in a federal prison were the this four star clown belongs, along with all the corrupt crook county socialist Democrats !
Biden just finished last pardons in the last hours in office. To his family, especially Jim and the ones in the LLC’s. All the witnesses are gone. Trump should have done that in the last days of his first term. Would have saved him and lot of his friends bankruptcy and jail
News Release: Naperville Police Arrest Chicago Man on Drug and Weapons Charges
A two-month-long Naperville Police investigation into alleged crack-cocaine sales in Naperville culminated Jan. 14 with the arrest of Deonte Bell, 23, of the 3800 block of Grenshaw Street in Chicago, IL.
Members of the Naperville Police Department’s Special Operations Group arrested Bell after he allegedly sold cocaine within Naperville’s jurisdiction on two occasions. At the time of his arrest, he was allegedly in possession of more than one but less than 15 grams of cocaine as well as a loaded semi-automatic handgun.
Bell was charged with one count of Armed Violence, a Class X felony, for being in possession of a weapon during the commission of a felony. He is also charged with two felony counts of Manufacture/Delivery of a Controlled Substance. Bell was later transported to the DuPage County Jail.
great work Naperville Police its nice to see officers are allowed to make drug and uuw without having to be jammed up stripped and even fired
rumorville has he is the newphew of chicago pd iad chief yolanda talley
I would argue against your assumption. I retired in 2023 with $200K mortgage at 2.55%. I have over a million in deferred where I'm making 19% per year on average return. So I'm making over $200K per year from deferred per year. And I'm still getting a deduction on my taxes as well from my mortgage.
Thats bad advice. Please fire your financial advisor
LA mayor attended a cocktail party while the city burned. Hold her accountable. | yes that is right keep electing these dei mayors to major us cities
spoken like a true professional i did the same thing defer comp , real estate investments and save up my comp hours
Seriously, just hire felons and get them paying into the pension.
Cuz I make $130K base salary to work from home an average of 4 hours a day. And when I do report to the unit I drop a slip for a few hours OT. Same with Beat Meetings. Same with community liaison meetings. I’m gonna gross $250K AGAIN this year. THAT’S why I’m still here at 56 with 32 years on. Unlimited time off. Numero Uno in seniority. Run all my errands and work out on company time. Life is good. It’s better when your job is ZERO stress and you make a quarter million dollars a year on a HS education. Oh yeah… got a primary residence, summer home in WI and three rental properties in a Red State. A 7-figure deferred comp balance and 4 adult kids put thru college. Most importantly… ONE wife of 35 years and going strong. Don’t hate the player, hate the game, kid.
Agreed, but find something to do to kill the boredom. We all know too many coppers who were way too comfortable sitting on barstools.
they last about 18 months.......
Plans??? He don't need no stinking plans. He Da Mare....
Shit, if you are 55+ and cave 20 to 25 you should get the hell out! Enjoy your freedom and do something else.
Retire before your injured. stripped, divorced, fired, charged, or mentally fried. If any of those things have already happened you should leave immediately and resettle in the sun belt to regroup your life.
And people told me I was stupid for taking the 55+ free medical.
I’ll hit my 20 years this August and plan to leave shortly after. Moved my family out of this awful state 2 years ago, and as Soon as I secure another job I’m out. I’m only 42 and can work another career with less stress! God bless whoever has to stay! Be safe
https://chicago.taleo.net/careersection/105/joblist.ftl?lang=en
Still no jobs posted!!!!!!!!!!!
1994 hire here. Welcome to the club! I’ve been retired for almost a year and it is an awesome feeling being retired!
Another telling sign of catastrophic failure caused by the local Democratic Party in over 100 years of city rule highlighted by failure and continued lies, deception and corruption. All aided and abetted by the fools in the media and the voting public of Chicago. Behold the downward spiral of a once great city.
This is one of the most valuable pieces of advice I have read in a long time. Dave Ramsey gave this advice to his listeners years ago. I followed this advice and left after 28 years and two plus decades ago.
Look at a mortgage amortization sheet showing the interest paid each month versus the principal. Pay down the principal as quickly as possible. Forgo the big trucks, boats etc. and retire your debt prior to any full retirement. You will save thousands. For the past 20+ years we have been without a mortgage, traveled around the country and Europe never touching our deferred comp balances except for our RMDs. Time passes quickly when you are retired and before you know it the feds are looking for the deferred taxes. Until that time pay off the mortgage and any credit card bills. It will pay off in the long run. Oh, then you will have nothing to write off on taxes??? Well, you will pay $2 to the feds, or you can pay $3 to the bank?? The left over $1 is yours.
Because it is bad advice
Have Conehead do traffic stops at 1:30 AM in 006.
A bunch of guys I retired with went home and went nuts sitting in an empty house with the wife still having to work for years more. The job was their life and they either go back out there and get a side gig or drink all day long.
It used to be called choir practice when guys on the job still drank firewater and not carrot juice.
Good advise. For those speak of deferred comp remember you will pay av20% capital gains tax. Take out 10000 and you pay 2000 Federal then another 4.90% to the state thus 2500 in tax on 10000. Get rid of the mortgage=peace of mind!
Macbeth: IV.i 10-19; 35-38
I was hired under the Clinton LE grants. Now I am enjoying my COLA raises and my SS bump very soon. Get Out ASAP...
What are you complaining about? 1998 was a great time to be a Chicago police officer. Shit, even 2012 was a decent time and not too long ago. You wouldn't make it out of the academy in 2024. It's that bad now.
Scumbag house mouse. That is alot of cheese! Good for you.
1W 19 District desk crew just keeps growing. Half to take duck at 0200 hrs.
Meanwhile, useless 06 Sgt downs 3 cars for his Burglary Missions. So much for supervision as Sgts work half tours.
December 20, 1835 - sometime in 2021 RIP CPD
Thanks for not voting in the last mayoral election asshole
That’s exactly what I did 2 years ago and I have zero regrets! 52 now and enjoying my time retired !
Cuz I make $130K base salary to work from home an average of 4 hours a day. And when I do report to the unit I drop a slip for a few hours OT. Same with Beat Meetings. Same with community liaison meetings. I’m gonna gross $250K AGAIN this year. THAT’S why I’m still here at 56 with 32 years on. Unlimited time off. Numero Uno in seniority. Run all my errands and work out on company time. Life is good. It’s better when your job is ZERO stress and you make a quarter million dollars a year on a HS education. Oh yeah… got a primary residence, summer home in WI and three rental properties in a Red State. A 7-figure deferred comp balance and 4 adult kids put thru college. Most importantly… ONE wife of 35 years and going strong. Don’t hate the player, hate the game, kid.
Good to hear and I hope you’re able to keep it going.
That being said ….loose lips sink ships
To save the pension we should contribute 15 to 20 percent.
Front Lean and Rest!
Honestly, this 👆I max out before 55 and unfortunately need to stay for the insurance. I can handle a couple extra years past 55 in the Area making big money. Almost sounds too good to be true.
Hank Sr Said, I'm never gonna get out of this world alive.
Like the Mutt you are, your children will follow. Leech.
would love to listen in
Many years ago, when a call was made to the WC about relief at a multiple homicide scene he responded: "Does you hear their feets?? I said no, then he says: I guess they ain't commin' ". Says it al about replacements in the near future. Last one turns out the lights.
I’m with you June 2026! LFG
Leaving at 41 20 on. No mortgage. Eat my shorts Brandon Johnson
At 33yrs I was maxed out pension wise and fed up with the city. As usual the job itself was always entertaining and in the post I didn’t complain, just laying out my situation. Pre planned the retirement date, moved family out to the country 18 months before I left and then stretched my last days into the new year and picked up the furlough, personal days, and some time due until March.
Dealing with the city insurance when it was still around was a nightmare having to deal with the crowd at benefits management and when it ended we went to an independent insurance plan that was cheaper and better. Not complaining just letting people know that you have to plan your escape and when you do it’d life changing for the good.
Great Idea. Name names if you legally can!
SCC…Imagine if you were a podcast. 💰Just a thought.
Congratulations you’ve made it work for you and the family
I got hired in the mid 90s, made Sergeant, off the list.... leaving next year with the age, and over 30 years, to lock in the pension....researched Detroit bankruptcy, retirees got 91% pension, no COLA...preparing for something like that here...take care of your health, everyone...it is the only thing that matters..forget about this psychotic city, there is life after this job
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God Bless. But Michigan did not back Detroits pension the way I understand it. Illinois backs Chicagos.
I hit 20 years in July, I’m leaving August. Empty nester and no mortgage. Screw this city.
You sound like a real hard on. Wife is probably waiting until you retire then she'll take half your pension and the house.
Please stay until 63, we appreciate you very much for helping the pension fund.
What’s wrong with you? 20%, federal and state taxes, health care. There will be nothing left of your paycheck. Let the politicians put the states share in and not continue to kick it down the road. If they had been paying their share we wouldn’t be in this situation
There are many reason. Could be kids, family alimony and child child support, health to name a few Or maybe to continue to max out deferred , invest OT in stocks mutual funds.
A lot of them don’t know how to do anything else or the job is the only life they have. And when they do go or get forced out, there’s nothing to do and health declines.
The City has been making the payments in advance and more then they should. They will not claim bankruptcy cause then they have to open the books to a forensic audit and everyone would be able to see where the money is going. That why they will never do it.
Payoff you house as quickly as you can.. you may need the money down the road for illness/some other big expense . whatever... Rehab /nursing home cost 100,000 year Medicare pays only for some months.At home care the same.. 4-$24,000 a year, depending on care .. It could be your spouse
All good advice. Where is this deferred comp invested to get 14 and 19 % ? Serious question
Yes please! We need more of this. The truth of how screwed up our military is because of podcasts and You Tube channels of ex-military. I think we need the same from ex-CPD.
I have nationwide diversify my investments. I think it's called a pro account.
They charge $300 a quarter I believe. Well worth the money in my opinion. My last 12 months show a 12.83% return. On $500k that's over $64,000.
20% my ass. How about CPS pays something anything???
Not the wisest financial move, but good luck to you.
Seriously...you shouldnt be taking investment advice from an anomous blog...
Ive seen several of my PPO's retire as well....Yeah, kinda sucks.
And coppers will be lining up to get that detail...all dumbfucks....
35 years on and they are making me retire this year...should I sure for age discrimination?
Hey old school caps, you just listed a bunch of reasons you should retire and start enjoying what you "worked" for all those years. You're gonna end up working yourself into the grave or stumbling into a career-ending, pension- killer incident. All that money is nothing if you're dead before you get to enjoy it. Retire to your summer home, collect your rent, hang out with your friends and family, spend a little cash on some nice dinners and traveling, and leave the job you're addicted to behind.
If you want but you will probably lose and it will cost you a lot.
That's why Conehead is lovin on the illegals. They're gonna save him, he thinks
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