Officer Cheech, Meet Officer Chong
Along with lowered hiring standards, now they're going to allow weed?
A Chicago police officer who faced dismissal after testing positive for marijuana can remain on the job, the Chicago Police Board ruled in its first weed-related decision since the drug was legalized.
Police Supt. Larry Snelling had pushed to fire Officer Marshall Andrews Jr. for failing a random drug test in August 2021, but the board instead voted Thursday to suspend the veteran cop for 90 days.
“While the board has discharged officers from CPD in the past for using cannabis, medical and recreational use of cannabis is now permitted by Illinois state law,” the board wrote in its written ruling, noting that future discipline will be assessed “on a case-by-case basis.”
Still, the ruling could set a precedent for two other pending disciplinary cases in which officers face firing for allegedly using cannabis.
No doubt someone is going to write something about alcohol use and the CPD's long tradition of drinking to excess and then killing civilians while off duty. Alcohol has been legal for a long time, but so have the consequences for doing something stupid while drunk. We can name more than a few coppers who got fired and/or served hard time after having had way too many. We could name even more who got away with lesser incidents.
But the thing about weed is, it sticks around a long time. You might not be actively high, but if you get into a shooting, on or off duty, or a car accident, or pretty much anything, even a hint of marijuana in your system from a week ago or a month ago is going to open up you and the City taxpayers to mountains of litigation. You're already subject to a breath test following a shooting, maybe even an accident. But under the "consent decree," how soon will a mandatory blood, urine or hair sample be forced on anyone using force of any sort?
Not to mention that marijuana use is still a restriction on the Firearms Transaction Record Form 4473 Section 21(f) meaning you can't buy a gun.
This is a potential disaster of epic proportions.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
217 Comments:
It’s a Rule #1 violation.
Cannabis is illegal under federal statutes.
Rule #1 is “obey all laws, FEDERAL, state and local…”
The form 4473 isnt an issue if the department supplies you with the firearm. That would cost a lot of money. That’s the only reason the city isn’t allowing off duty use. I’d rather see a copper having a tough time take a fucking gummy than downing a bottle of poison. Any intoxicant can be abused, but the horrors caused by alcohol abuse pale in comparison to THC use.
I’m glad I am about to retire soon. The shit show is got no where to put the shit.
He probably lied on his federal forms to buy a firearm. One doesn't start weed after joining CPD.... usually.
As an HRI at the academy few years back, I’ve witnessed recruits test positive for various types of narcotics. There wasn’t many instances but a handful which I do remember. Enforcement was not the same across the board. Zero tolerance policy applied only to the unconnected recruits. For example, some recruits were terminated for having mere presence of alcohol on their breath. Yet other recruits were allowed to remain employed even with Heroin flowing through their veins. Enforcement depended strictly on how much wack the recruit had. Initially partner and I were not believing our eyes that this individual will become a police officer in few months, yet high on heroin. But it all starts to make sense at the graduation ceremony when some big Boss arrives to pin the recruit’s star.
3 years and 11 months to make a determination for a 90 day suspension for a low level infraction. Who's really the bigger dummy here?
Breath test and urine sample has been used for quite awhile on a weapons discharge. Discharge under any circumstances.
It’s legal, If you can drink then I should be able to smoke . My religion forbids alcohol so boohoo. Puff, puff & pass it like everyone else - even the medical professionals.
Time to get with the times SCC. Don’t fight it. Let it happen.
Time to get with the times man. Weed isn’t the devils lettuce
We should be allowed to! Cannabis is less harmful than alcohol when used in moderation. The Prohibition on Cannabis needs to end in this country. I have family and friends that are successful and they smoke.
The police board is full of pot smokers and edible users. This department is DONE. Law and order is OVER. Degenerates control the city.
Nothing like a few gummies to assist with the stress and inherent dangers of the job. Dave's not here man...
Maybe it's the point, the city loves to pay out the ghetto lottery.
What about Al the functional alcoholics on the CPD?
How many cops do we all know that have come to work stinking of booze, some three sheets to the wind and taken care of? How many have gotten DUI’s and kept their jobs? How many have blown more than the max at random and still have a job? Alcohol is not only engrained in our culture but often encouraged and it’s far worse for you. The city can figure out a method to testing THC without creating a liability for themselves and officers. Cannabis has done more for veterans with anxiety, PTSD, TBI and various sleep issues than any SSRI’s or other drugs would. Time to just rip the bandaid off. It might do some officers some good and provide some mental relief.
Normally you guys are spot on with your opinions…this one, every time it comes up is the one I won’t agree with. You’re idea of cannabis and it’s culture seems relegated to movies from the late 70’s, and Nixon’s “war on drugs”.
THC does more good for your mental well being than alcohol ever will…while booze has zero benefits to your body.
I miss the good old days of this department and the change day parties. A lot of fun back in the day and then Jodie Weiss came around and ruined the fun.
That’s nothing… you ever heard of Seegeant 7 ?? He tells everyone in 017 that he’s number 7 on the sergeant’s list!!
Hunter Biden, call your office. Hunter Biden, call your office.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24705531-hunter-biden-atf-form-4473/
We have to blow AND provide a urine sample following a shooting.
About time. Shitcagoans all smoke weed now. We need them contributing to the pension.
WTF
The classic:
Bailiff!
Whack his peepee!!!!
Ur honor maaaaan.......!!??!!?!!!?!!!!
Hey…open the door..it’s Dave
Dave? Dave’s not here.
I ate the brownie at the picnic that had THC in it defense is not going to work for everyone. I personally wouldn't want to be working next to a guy who has been puffing on the devil's lettuce.
so, this officer violates a department rule, violates federal law about using marijuana by buying/having/carrying a gun and is technically high while on duty,,,,, and just a suspension? and Cozzi slaps a guy and is fired then jailed?
SCC, I’m sorry - this is your “old man yelling at cloud” moment. There has never been more stress placed upon officers than those currently on the streets. Cancelled days off, increased liability, cameras everywhere, always the threat of being on the wrong end of a politically motivated incident. If someone wants to take an edible off duty that is legal for EVERYONE else; then so be it. Of course there is liability and concerns with using it. That’s with everything. But my god, can we enjoy anything anymore? Live a little guys. And what did you always say SCC? We are not above the law, but we are not below it either.
Weed stinks. Can you imagine sitting next to one of these new hires stinking up every squad car. Union should oppose any acceptance of weed usage
The effects of cannabis last 4-6 hours. Fed law prohibits law enforcement from using cannabis. If the city were to allow cannabis then no federal funding.
we didn't say cannabis is useless and didn't have some benefits.
BUT....there's a reason you shouldn't be handling a firearm, operating a motor vehicle, be in a dynamic situation making life and death decisions while high....or drunk.
and you ought to read the studies about moderate alcohol consumption such as red wine and the like.
if it's a condition for being hired, then it has nothing to do with being above or below the law.
there are a ton of ways to deal with stress, most of them legal, and many which won't compromise decision making ability. this isn't something to institute without extensive research and study. the liability factor alone, not to mention the conflict with Federal Law, should be considered.
so what if it is legal it is against CPD rules.
As you predicted SCC, a lot of weed supporters and apologists. Next we’ll be hearing how cocaine increases your mental alertness and how heroin can really take the edge off. It’s a very slippery slope.
And if it’s all good now, then anyone fired or disciplined for it should be entitled to compensation. Afterall, they were punished based on faulty logic of the 70’s.
don't bogart that joint teeeeeeeeeeee heeeeeeeeee man
Legalizing weed has been a negative overall in places that have done it. But, I honestly don’t care if coppers in Chicago smoke weed or meth or crack for that matter. I don’t live there anymore and we need bodies paying into the pension. Give the local populace what they crave.
We’re not talking about booze, which as you remind us does have its own set of problems. Legalized weed has caused innumerable problems and caused massive damage to people wherever it’s been done. Especially by fostering a culture of acceptance and causing mental harm, especially to young people. Why does the pro weed crowd always feel a need to argue “but booze is worse!” Keeping defining deviance downward.
As Horrible as this sounds, I truly believe every word.
Break out the gummies!!!
Knock. Knock. Knock. That's my skull. I'm so wasted.
A piss test cannot determine if you are currently under the influence of cannabis. If someone took a gummy a week ago on their RDO it will most likely show up on a piss test.
Retired here. Always thought termination after positive test for weed was excessive.
How many joints are in a lid?
What about second hand smoke? Can't do much about that.
If you’re a pot head you should not be on this job. The argument that smoking weed is in any shape beneficial is a cope by those who are addicted to it. Literally shrinks your brain and makes you slow and a loser.
That being said, I know one of the officers facing termination and he is not a pot head. Unfortunately something that was sold over the counter marketed as thc-free still popped hot on the urine test. To any officers that take supplements or topical oils, exercise caution.
Off topic- can somebody tell the 012th Tact Lt that his work car is for work- not taking your girlfriend to the Cubs game on your RDO! Dressed up in cubs gear with no gun, no radio, driving an M plate car. WTF
Look at the board and you’ll understand.
Lawyers will have a field day with this down the road.
There was a boss years ago who pissed hot with coke and the excuse was that it was in his girlfriend’s Virginia. Remained a bossed
Bull shit! These stories have been floating around the academy for years. Utter nonsense. Considering the bs you spew I highly doubt you ever worked for CPD.
"Change day parties" were long gone by the time Jody took over.
"A friend with weed is a friend indeed and I always feel a need for weed!!!"
Arechie Bunker was Right All Along SAYS:
The Age of the Doper-Police is now here. Thanks Mayor Conehead and Chicago Police Department…
Hey..it's legal..airline pilots can fly planes on weed can't they??
Laws and Rules aren’t for Democrats…..
Only a fool believes this. Much medical scientific evidence that weed has long term harmful effects, physical and psychological.
99% of them make the rest look bad…
So you subscribe to the stupid is as stupid does theory.
Jody and his rump riders. All thought they were something great, while being laughed at behind their backs by most everyone
Being a successful idiot is no wat to go through life.
Like Immigration?
How about you get a fucking hobby vs finding a substance to feel "gooder". Shit heads smoke weed.. all that smoke weed use it to mask or suppress other issues that can been treated with other methods, grow up and stop taking the easy way out. No matter what it impairs a person so your judgment is not 100%.
So stop using the excuse its legal to use a substance you only want to use because it was illegal to use before.
Grow up already ... HS with guns rep will neve4 go away... but soon will be grade school kids with guns.
Reading the comments there are a lot of stoners on here. I speak as someone who in their youth had more than their share of weed. Back when the measurement du jour was a Nickle bag or lid. By the time I was 20 I grew out of the need or want of that high. On a whim I recently tried some of the new strain and found it to be much stronger and potent. It did give the same aftereffect of me cleaning my refrigerator out as food.
Just think how interesting the job would be if everyone was high.
Great Police dept you Chicago Police Officers work for!
Embarrassing!
YOU are the problem!
Very recent studies have shown just one drink of alcohol can be bad for your health. Also Doctors are reporting more paranoid psychosis due to the increased use of THC. But like Hank Williams said, I'm never gonna get out of this world alive!
You guys are all funny for thinking these directives and rules actually mean anything. The connected will always be taken care of.
But it is the devil’s parsley
But it’s OK for CFD. They actively use THC on shift at firehouse. I am a proponent for it over alcohol, but you have to have all your faculties when you’re on the clock. People need you your partners need you your family needs you to arrive home safely. The very bottom line for us right now is that it is a condition of employment. If you don’t like that, seek other employment.
This is a good one. In one hand, if you were a victim that could choose the copper you wanted to respond, 9/10 youd want best. Especially as a tax payer. On the other, the job is pointless. There are more rules, restrictions and politically driven consequences than running a Soviet space program. The layman's concept of criminal justice in 2025 is fantasy. The beat copper, from Gen X to Gen Z can only take so much pressure, although one is objectively tougher than the other. So maybe it is time?
AND...yeah, it's federal law. So is illegal immigration enforcement, and even the sale cannabis, yet Illinois breaks those laws. Why aggressively pursue this one?
BUT...it's not your grandpa's brick weed. This stuff today is chemically engineered to take you on a roller-coaster ride through bozo town, not just take the edge off. So maybe it's not a good idea?
Who even knows anymore.
Meet your next partner???? Please! How low can the standards go?
Sometimes they like messing with people. Cause unnecessary stress to see if there will be any more fuckups along the way to add the termination with cause "see, they were a fuck up." Stop nonsense by incompetent bo$$ hole$ that want to mess with people
When tested, it doesn't indicate last usage date like breathalyzer for alcohol. It just has positive and amount... compounded over X amount of usage.
Every body must get stoned
Quite honestly, I’d rather smoke or do edibles instead of drinking alcohol…. No hangover, feel more relaxed….. just soothes better with less destruction…. Helps with stress and ptsd as well!
For TBI/ PTSD in veterans with actual symptoms it works as a bandaid for a little while, it tends to delay them from getting actual treatment. Alcohol does it too.
But the valor thieves and malingering fakers love it.
Alcohol is way worse! But just like alcohol use, be a fucking responsible user. Just like a gun in the wrong or untrained hand, using and abusing any drug or alcohol can have bad consequences. So be responsible and enjoy!
Only a moron would show up “stinking” like weed. That’s ghetto shit. I know many who smoke that never smell like “weed”. Just like the idiots that show up smelling like alcohol. Dumb
The Dabs are much worse. They take a puff or two and they are dangerous and useless at the same time.
"when used in moderation."
That's a slippery slope man
I’m all for the medical use of THC over any opioid for pain treatment. I’ve lost friends and family to the legally prescribed pills. We all know someone on the watch that’s dealing with some chronic pain issue who’s come to work after taking something that been prescribed by a doc but is definitely a little to f’d up to operate a vehicle let alone a firearm.
And THC is “non addictive”. Many of the opioid based treatments turn out to be far worse for the user because of their addictiveness. When the docs turn off the prescription many users will turn to the streets to get their fix.
Your cigarettes, cigars and coffee breath stinks as well. Just imagine
A few white wine spritzers???
Illinois "legalization" is illegal; Federal law overrides it. Marijuana is STILL illegal under Federal law. The Board has just opened a huge can o' worms, and taxpayers will be on the hook for it.
tell that to the doctor next time you go in for surgery, tell him or her you think it's ok if they just smoked some dope just before they start to work on you
that's why they give all those gold stars a driver, because they are always too drunk to drive
Ok go and run home to mommy now
Personally, I don't partake so I don't give a rat's ass whether it's legal or not.
That said, IT REMAINS A SCHEDULE 1 DRUG UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
Use is a federal crime regardless of state law and regardless of whether or not the feds are willing to prosecute.
Until and unless the feds change the law, DON'T FUCKING DO IT.
As His Excellency President Reagan said: Just say NO!
It’s federally illegal and you can’t have alcohol in your system at work. He had weed in his system at work. I can drink in my off time as long as I don’t have it in my system at work, if you want to smoke weed in your off time and can figure out how to get it out of your system before you’re back to work, then I’d agree, have at it big dog. I don’t really care about weed, but your logic is not sound. You sound like every mutt I’ve stopped smoking and high as fuck while driving, “it’s legal”, lots of legal things have rules. Alcohol is legal, can’t drink and drive. Driving a vehicle is legal, but you need a license, can’t drive over the speed limit, a whole bunch of rules in place that takes a legal activity and makes it illegal. Stop acting like a west side mutt.
I agree mostly, but I’m retired. I’ve done edibles here and there dealing with an illness. They do not leave you clear headed- even if you took them hours prior. When I took them daily (1x a day), I felt like the effects were compounded.
Hey SSC. It has happened. There are more "new" people than coppers "from the past." This doesn't just manifest with the weed thing. The entire lense they look through is different. I don't agree with it however if everybody else can we should be able to use pot as well. Police are the only ones that have to follow the law anymore, for what, to collect a few pension checks if your lucky then die. This needs to be solved at the legislative level. I don't think a bunch of drug attics should be able to vote but they surely shouldn't have more rights to freedom off duty than a police officer.
CFD has an even more insane policy ever since Local 2 said THC was ok. A great example is the random policy, every day a specific number of members are randomly selected on duty to be tested for alcohol/drugs. Union came out and said THC on a random is no longer an issue since it is legal in Illinois and you will pass if its in your system. However.......if the apparatus you are in leaves the parking lot of the testing site and gets into an accident and you have to be tested again.....you will be considered positive/failed. If internal affairs decides to test a company or firehouse on duty and your positive that is considered a failure even if hours ago you had a random test. The officer could also now face charges regarding not reporting a member fit for duty if the city want's to really stick it to someone. If you hold a EMT or Paramedic license and are positive/failed the city now can report that to the hospital that holds your license, potentially meaning you lose that license and may lose a condition of your employment.
I understand that people are mad that the connected always get away with shit on this department. That's never going to change. Wonder if all these commenters who are ok with POs using cannabis would be ok with a high PO responding to their call for service. Cannabis has negative long term effects on your brain. There's a reason why they call it DOPE.
Depends, do they have it in their system at work? I’ve known several guys who have gotten popped for having booze in their systems at work, and were punished severely. No rule against being an alcoholic, just can’t have it in your system at work. So, people with weed in their system and people with alcohol in their system at work both get punished. Seems pretty fair to me. Also, alcohol isn’t illegal at the federal level, weed is. How about just show up to work with no alcohol or drugs in your system? I don’t think it’s too hard.
All I see here is the city opening themselves up for more lawsuits (and officers for personal civil suits) should you get into a shooting or bad beef. Additionally, Alcohol use is bad, but if you drink on your RDO and come back to work sober and get into a traffic crash - alcohol isn’t going to be there 2 days later. You do a few edibles on your RDO and get in a traffic crash- your bloodwork shows you’ve got THC- guess what? You think the city is going to pay out for IOD, duty disability etc. Think wisely, boys and girls.
If that’s true & I was a recruit dismissed, I’d be contacting my lawyer and submitting a FOIA.
Yep, and you use alcohol on your RDO and come back sober- no issue. You do an edible on your RDO, get in a shooting…
Anyone here defending the use of this with our job is an idiot and naive. Guess what, it may be legal, but say you work in a factory and get involved in a work related accident. First thing your HR is doing is sending you for a blood test. You piss hot, they aren’t paying your workman’s comp claim. You don’t think that’s going to happen here? The city loves to save money whenever it can. You may not get fired, but you will be unpaid for awhile.
" case by case basis" seems to open the door for clout and special treatment and lawsuits.
I know who you are talking about.
Big boss was his Dad. I believe
as long as you are not the police or fire dept or a doctor do whatever drug you want
a "M" plate? really when is the last time you saw a police car/vehicle with a "m" plate?
Ok go and run home to mommy now
7/23/2025 01:16:23 PM
obviously, you still live in your momma's basement and don''t worry about having a job and think it's great when you stay outside way after the streetlights come on
and watch all the lawsuits against the department and city after the 1st officer who shoots someone is tested positive for the weed and nothing happens to the police board that basically said it's ok
Once upon a time, CPD was a great job, sadly a LONG time ago.
Must be a long night working with you. Enjoy life Tackleberry.
Dab beer is delicious,6-12 bottles is nice on a hot day.
Also Summer Mobile parties.
He was also right about Eleanor Roosevelt.
Yep. The video is going around. Driving the company car to go drink at the Cubs game. Not smart
Girlfriend? Cmon, who would date that guy??
This is the real point. Many profession still cannot use weed despite its legality. Tradsmen are wiz quizzed way more then us, for this reason.
I think many of this job would benefit from it as opposed to boozing too much. But at the end of the day it's a reasonable restrictions to put on members until a test exits showing you are high at that moment.
Plain and simple it's a rule 15 violation.
"Just say No!"
- Nancy
What a clown!
JS is a little man (height not girth) who is Charmin soft. Made off-duty PCS arrests at Butch McGuires and would author “anonymous” letters to the Commander of 018 complaining about the WOL’s when he was a suckhole merit Sgt. 018 was pleased to see him out the door.
More stupid shit from those who gave you the original stupid shit.
Ok cheach
Well there’s three feet in a yard
Four quarts in a gallon
Uh….what was the question?
Ahh, I remember Commander Trigg. Liked to wear women's clothing as well.
What are the odds that he’s clean now?
Or is he still a junkie, hidden out in some back office somewhere?
Sorry, not in the 8th grade anymore.
Exactly
Wtf does that mean
It’s either against the rules or not. Fucking shitheads
Typical prob lives in 16 another guy just showing off for the neighbors with a take home who does nothing.
"Don't bogart that joint, my friend...Pass it over to me..."
It will be a sad day when recreational drug use is given the green light in this department. I remember all the stoners in high school coming in high on a daily basis. They were barely passing under achievers at best. Can you imagine Spicoli from fast times at Ridgemont high doing a crime scene investigation?
Yeah...it would be like that.
I was gonna go to work but then I got high (Ooh ooh ooh)
I just got a new promotion, but I got high
Now I'm selling dope and I know why (Why man?)
'Cause I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high....
I think cbd without the thc should be allowed. Better than alcohol. I've seen so many alcoholics on this job it's insane. The firemen are allowed. We should have the same benefit. For sleep, stress, ptsd, cancer treatments. There should be guidelines in place.
Granted the topic isn’t alcohol, but they’re right, alcohol is a destroyer, maybe cannabis isn’t, just as a comparison . You don’t have to be a PO, almost everyone has seen it at least once.
As the relative of a life long pot smoker, I’ll be sure to tell that to him. Of course, he can’t remember when I do tell him but ok. Plenty of studies, showing long term affects on memory.
RCMP in Canada can do weed as long as they are fit for duty. Only exception is if your a diver or a pilot you cannot. There have been no problems.
Marshall Andrews, Jr? I believe Marshall Andrews, Sr. was a sergeant in Area One. He also had a funeral home in Roseland. Undertakers are usually connected.
If you think Doctors (surgeons) don't used weed or any type of narcotics your dreaming. It's in every walk of life regardless of what the profession is.
Johnson just announced that property taxes will be going up next year to help fill the 1 billion+ budget hole.. meanwhile, CPS has an 11 Billion dollar budget.. it’s criminal that you can’t find 1 billion to cut from CPS. Hell, you could cut 4 billion and it could still run.. you just have to get rid of the scams. 70 students in an entire school yet they have almost 100 administrators, teachers, nurses and other positions… for 70 kids. All in a building that is 60 years old and is supposed to hold 700 kids. Merge these schools, cut the staff and save billions.. it’s simple
Name says it all… smh
Then file a beef and they will pull his GPS. Or will Hein protect him?
Was the tac secretary who wears yoga pants and no gun to work with him?
“Weed is harmless”” blah blah blah.. it’s absolutely not harmless. Weed makes you develop insane anxiety, depression and isolationism when you use it for long enough. You brain gets use to the downer and mellow effects of weed.. after a while, if you are confronted with any kind of stress, even extreme low levels you brain starts to demand weed.. over time it gets worse and worse and if you don’t smoke, then your brain gets hyper anxiety because it is programmed to use weed to settle your mind and body down.. the constant up and down and the anxiety being drown out by weed eventually causes your brain to slip into depressive states, specifically when you’re not high. When you’re not high your brain starts thinking and remembering all of your life stresses and anxieties and it now causes depression and paranoia.. the depression, anxiety paranoia then cause you to not want to be around people then you become a hermit who wants to just cope all day and smoke weed. Weed is now your life.. it’s your hobby and your body can’t function without it.. as weed strains get stronger, so does the effect on your brain. Yes these are longer term effects but I know many people who have been smoking since high school who now in their 40s can’t keep a relationship, a job or friends and do nothing social anymore.. they sit around and smoke weed all day.
3-4 back in the day
Legal or illegal??? How would you like to work in the same car, beat, area or have some nitwit appear on scene of a "difficult situation" and be an embarrassment (other than some of your bosses) while under the influence of marijuana?? Same goes for alcohol (tried to stay away from those shitbirds) They are a danger to themselves (their fault) or to any of the real police on the street. Bad idea.
Post your name and you might get some credibility.
I’ve long said that if weed didn’t stink the way it does it was have been legal from the start.
7/23/2025 01:34:44 PM
To achieve what? The recruit’s dismissal?
You’ve always been able to take CBD- just not with THC
👍
Whenever I was getting called for my 3rd test in 18 months, I always wondered who I was really “peeing” for…I don’t know if Random has to show numbers in any given year of tests, but I’m willing to bet they have a quota and your filling the gap for the clouted who don’t get called.
La-la-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Not once, BUT TWICE!!!!
Just don't swallow if ordered to by some merit hack.
Send the IG the info. GPS, surveillance cameras, credit card receipts…cooked
Drunks and potheads should never be on the job.
Those are 2 standards that should never be lowered.
I support responsible use of cannabis. Just like alcohol. All you naysayers are nerds, anything can be overdone, cigars, coffee , booze. And yes cannabis. I’m going to retire soon, and enjoy a couple hits at the end of the day.
You sir, are a nerd.
-9171
That guy was unbelievable. Oral sex and a man who liked to dress as a chick.
Dope is for dopes.
"pot head"
Alcohol is just as effective for stress reduction and there are liquor stores everywhere in Chicago...and the money doesn't go to connected billionaires and cartels. And it doesn't make you stupid. Just saying...
A truck driver who tests positive loses his license.
Y'all have guns. That's as bad as trucks.
That happened in 1984 when frank ways promoted to LT. It was the first time CPD did drug testing at a promotion. It was a very large class of Sgt’s & LTs after Judge Marshal started affirmative action. Many were caught for weed, just a few with coke. All caught were black. None of the people I knew were fired, just suspended, and they all kept the promotion.
Frank was a very good LT in 007 and a good commander. The only way you knew about his dressing up was he got the clothes from your mother.
You can tell by the comments the old timers can’t fathom this weed thing. Other younger ppl understand this topic. Weed will be legal relatively soon, and there’s is tests that can be done or procedures if ur high at work.
I always said how many officers take prescribed medications that pop on drug tests. I bet the number is close to 30% min with the adderall and others.
Also, New Jersey lets their cops consume weed, NY cops won their appeals, Colorado depts allow it and more have gone that direction.
The real question is if officers could use marijuana would the suicide rate be this high?
Alcohol is way worse everyone knows it, drunk drivers kill more ppl than weed ever did
Don’t smoke weed- but you can get extremely drunk at a Christmas party and drive home. You might drive on the sidewalk and kill someone too, but don’t smoke weed. Got it?
Sorry but Seiser is #7, not this clown in 017
How many joints in a lid? One, I roll a big joint"
He sounds like a mutt because that is what he is. He really sounds so stupid, he should go far in CPD with the right help.
somebody should tell his wife already. dudes a creep
You’re probably drunk as fuck typing this rant out
Everyone typing essays about weed being the death of humanity-
Where’s the same energy with alcohol? You can substitute the word “weed” with “alcohol” in any of these comments. I.E, not keeping a relationship, being stoned all day, slipping into depression etc
Why do we condone alcoholism?
News flash, you don’t stay high on weed for an extended time period. Just because thc is in your system 12 hours later, doesn’t actually mean you’re under the influence of it.
I think alcohol is much worse, and I know of a ton of cops who struggle with it on the daily.
A lot of them make an ass out of themselves on and off duty because of alcohol. But no one wants to have that conversation.
You’re a fucking loser and poser. Yet we all know that here in 008.
Just use shrooms. In and out of the system and there’s no test for it. Certain strains you could work on you’re focused and chill at the same time totally in the zone and alert. Just micro dose it. Little chip every 3hrs or so. It’s great.
You live and work in a confederate city
And that’s the point, right? So the both of us can cite studies all day long with PMID numbers showing the negative effects and positive effects of both cannabis and alcohol. Everything is always “in moderation”. I suppose you’re right though, most cops can drink alcohol “in moderation”…how are we supposed to expect them to consume cannabis “in moderation”. I’ve seen cops show up to work drunk as a functioning alcoholic in my day. I’m sure you’d have asshat cops that would show up high. We do ruin things for ourselves often.
I did a "30 pending" some years back. After I was back from it, I got random tested 4 or 5 times in a year and a half. Random ain't so random.
Sister Mary Elephant warned us all about the devil weed in grade school. Didn't say a word about whisky or beer though.
You are correct and recent studies indicate this. Weed is not harmless and much more destructive than alcohol in the long run. The only people who keep repeating the mantra that alcohol is worse than weed are those that like to smoke it.
In 1937, when the Federal Marijuana Tax Act was enacted and Marijuana was illegalized, the THC Content was One(1) Percent.
In 1977, forty years later, as I started walking the Mean Streets, we were told the potency of Dope had TRIPLED and the THC Content was now Three(3) Percent!
What is the THC Percentage currently?
The Fact is: Today’s “ Grass” is not in the same league as the “ Pot” of fifty years ago, and is a far greater Menace to Law & Order.
Hahaha yet you don't have the sack to say anything, its ok I know the actual five or 6 officers that are professional the rest of the district is a joke.
The demands of working as a cop are great enough as it is WITHOUT being exposed for having made life and death decisions with THC in our blood and brains. If you wanna unwind and get high, choose another profession.
Looks like you touched a few nerves, Tackleberry.
All of you "potheads" chiming in saying weed is beneficial to the human physiology...It's all BS.
Weed is a different animal now than it was in the 70's and 80's...it's way more potent, and affects reaction time and perception and makes one sedentary and definitely lowers ambition.
It's almost like the illuminati wants us to be fat, drunk, high and stupid...
loser drug
alcohol has been part of European culture for thousands of years - pot, no so much
Unfortunately people in our profession including firemen, medics and dispatchers fall to addictions whether it be booze painkillers sex/marital affairs- which is a symptom of depression (risky behavior) or other illicits. I’ve seen it ruin even the best of them.
Theres lots of M plate police cars still out there. Just walk through Homan lot. Newer SUVs are MP plates. You must be retired with nothing better to do.
Why do you smoke this shit? So as to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality.
There are Breathalayzers for THC ... Hound Lab inc. It goes back 6 hours
Agreed
Nobody is condoning alcohol knobhead.
If you have ever been inside a dispensary, you would see mostly old people. They have arthritis or other mild maladies and they would rather not deal with doctors and insurance. For them, there is a benefit. It helps with the pain and they are happy with it. If it didn’t work, they would not be paying for it “out of pocket”.
“Put hope in your brains, not dope in your veins!” - Jesse Jackson, 1988.
Cheech: Hey Tommy!" Roll another one..." Chong: "You got it man..."
100 on the west side
90 on the southside
40 on the north side
“…drug attics…” 🙄
Wait I thought he was gay? Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Do you really want to trust your life to someone that smokes fope?
If we made that same argument for the drunks…there’d be no one on the job. I agree though. If you smoke you shouldn’t be on the job, if you drink…you shouldn’t be either. Both are equally bad for you. Works both ways.
Well….you gonna cite these studies or just talk out your ass? Alcohol is far worse than THC especially long term use.
How bad were your hands shaking typing this?
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