Radios Compromise TASERs?
This is suddenly an issue? (click for larger image):
These are the ten-shot TASERs?
We didn't get trained in those. But we would note that as more and more electronics are carried by Officers or in close proximity to Officers (body cams, radios, in-car cams, in-car microphones, phones that link to the PDTs, not to mention personal cell phones), the possibility of electronic conflicts would likely skyrocket.
One also has to wonder if the previous studies (and conspiracy theories) regarding electromagnetic effects on health need a re-visiting.
Labels: department issues, safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
103 Comments:
Tasers are one of the biggest frauds to be perpetrated on cpd. More failures than successes. Something Terry Hillard doesn't want to talk about. But hey as long as his total merit ass is making money selling a dangerous product to us, its all good.
The department should stay with the tasers that they were using and this wouldn’t be an issue. But as usual, the bosses are amateurs. These new tasers are considered a gun so when you have incident, it’s gonna be a shooting. The shit-show continues because no one running things knows what they are doing!
I need some career advice. I am a new officer and want to be "the real police". I just got off my probation three months ago and I have excellent activity. Even the WC and my sergeant complimented me. Is it true that the tactical team is a stepping stone to other units?
This new taser is going to be a litigation disaster. The dept already gets sued enough through actions of the old one.
Was about to bring up EMF risks to human DNA. Cellphones next to the ear, while transmitting or receiving, are literally cooking the brain at the molecular level.
Never liked tasers. Prefer hands on when needed. Don't have to worry about offenders "falling from an elevated position" which describes anyone standing up.
Some may like it. Let it be their call.
They are as safe as a Covid 19 booster shot....
Next question.
Get rid of the TASER - Too much doubt now. Go back exclusively to wireless hole punchers...no electronics...
It was happening to my radio today. It was better when the antenna was up by the mic.
Here is some food for thought in the last years I have had cancer removed from my stomach area and several stitches later a still soreness in that area. Late in 2018-2024 I began wearing my radio in the front pocket of my vest. Can you guess where the cancer was yep same spot and I remember a particular supervisor complaining about how high power the new radios were hmm
More technology.
More tools.
More reports.
Because criminals can't help but act like criminals.
The whole Dept got trained in them in 24-25.
A taser isn’t a gun…
Never had a problem with the night stick. It worked good in all four seasons and even in inclement weather.
If you want to be the real police, I suggest working somewhere outside illinois. Sincerely, a 26 year guy.
No, but if whomever is sponsoring (asking for you on the unit) keeps mentioning that “you always buy” at the watering hole after work you will be an Exempts driver before you have 5 years on, guaranteed.
I came on in 1990.
Class 90-1.
The day they gave us our star at the academy, they were still issuing call box keys.
Exactly 18 rounds of ammunition for our revolvers and speed loaders.
A wooden baton and an old helmet from the late 1960s.
GUESS WHAT?
They all fuckin' worked !
No forgot to start with...
Dear Abby.
I always loved liked the old one cartridge taser I never had a problem with it.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
No, but if whomever is sponsoring you for that unit keeps mentioning you “always buy at the watering hole after work, you will be an Exempt’s driver before you have 5 years on, guaranteed.
I never sign one out. The only time you can use it is pretty much when the shithead has a mattress next to him to fall on - otherwise you'll be in violation of our order when they get hurt so thanks but no.
OMG, you sound like another DEI. If you wanted to be the real police why are you on CPD??? Go join the Feds or go to a republican state where they appreciate and you can be the "real" police.
On the tac team you’ll be stepping…on your jones
Cell phones emit RF radiation which doesn’t cause any damage to cells or DNA. Literately no evidence to prove what you just stated.
Oh boy.....a shameless, self-promoting 'go-getter'!
Sunlight, 1,000 Watts per sq meter at noon in lower latitudes ... now let's take a look at a raging bonfire or the hot coals of a barbecue, similar EM (electromagnetic) emissions in the longwave IR (infrared) region of the spectrum (and deep-heating warmth). How about that 1/2 Gauss ever-present earth's magnetic field, that can penetrate hands (cover up a compass AND IT STILL WORKS!!) Take a few turns of wire (1 m diam.) and stick those into a DMM and rotate that loop - see your DMM show voltage? That's also present in your tissues when you move about on earth ... how do they read heartbeats? Oh yeah ... through electrodes put on one's chest.
Next.
Off-brand radios? I don't know if Moto Solutions has a more than 4 W radio ... 70 (seven O) yr old radio tech here. No cancers, used a lot of Motos from '76 on. Also a ham so there is that too.
Don't tase me, bro!
Heard about emf shirts blocking out the harmful electronics from Greg Hunter's usawatchdog.com.
Here's the links:
https://usawatchdog.com/
https://satellitephonestore.com/catalog/sale/details/escapezone-men-emf-blocking-t-shirt-black-large
There's also other options. Call them. Buy one, test it with all your gear on and stay safe
Former Comm tech here.In the 70’s all the techs working the top floor of the Hancock building were sterilized .Remedied out of court.
Alot of complaining but you-all still out there being proactive.
Throw the taser in ths glove box and take a shorty and clip it in your cargo pocket like we used to do beepers.
Problem solved cry babies.. now go pass out those QR codes for the public to review you like a dam Uber eats delivery.
How about helmet cams like military?
Replace firearms with tasers.
One more bit of safe clothing info from Greg Hunter’s USAwatchdog site:
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Here’s the other clothing link: https://escapezone.com/product-category/emf-protection/
USAWatchdog.com for more info. It’s a great site. There’s probably a discount for the products starting from his site. We can all save money, especially in hellinois.
These electronics are really bad next to your bodies. So sorry for the LEO who had cancer. Sending prayers. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. Be safe everyone.
Agreed, a little mace in yo face goes a long way compared to those boondoggles
No.
Doesn't anyone use pepper spray anymore?
Tact is the next step but you can’t utilize the medical anymore. Not worth it in my opinion.
More research about radio frequency and health hazards. Are the radios safe? For the most part but beware of the risks with excessive close exposure.
https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/electromagnetic-compatibility-division/radio-frequency-safety/faq/rf-safety
"While the TASER-10 is synching data to the battery"
Call me old-fashioned, but that sounds like more complexity than I really want to have in a front-line weapon.
I will invent a radio and taser in one !
No try a phone call
Yes and No. You have to get traffic stop of the month, officer of the month, outside unit award, and many arrests on CTA. After a 3 years of that and going to parties socializing with bosses from that unit, you have a good chance of getting into that unit. TAC helps but ultimately you need a phone call from people vouching for you. Doing police work gives you the connections that will make the phone call for you.
Use a flip phone without 5g.
You must be an Al Gore apostle. That theory was debunked years ago. Find something else to yell conspiracy about.
BS
And what back door deal did the city idiots pay 3 times more the amount for these peices of shit are worth
...got on the job in 86' much earlier than these kids...went to the Second District..used to get shot at from the Jets. Aka Taylor Homes on 55/ 35 State...you could hear the shots echoing on the sidewalk..I always wandered why can't we have an AnusCam to record me shitting my pants! Yes. Modern technology marches on...
Absolutely ! Study hard and work hard for the promotional exams and a gold star will be in your future.
As long as Tony G in 025 gets out early every day then this won’t be a problem
A welcome return of silliness and sarcasm blossoms!
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Bless you for wanting to be the real police. Yes it is, not only is it good practice for police work but a nice stepping stone for lawsuits and CRs. Think twice about who you are putting the work in for. It would be much more appreciated with federal agencies or other departments.
5G networks and towers are literally the worst for your health
More like a launch pad where the merit bosses can launch you under the bus or straight to callback. Their choice not yours, the days of being the "real police" are over. With all these police hating, racist police oversight agencies, take my advice just do what is expected of you, go home enjoy, collect a check that hasn't been reduced because of suspension days served. Keep in mind that at the end of your career you will have to work all the suspended days in your career, 30, 60, 90, 100+ days for what? for some merit boss looking at getting his next merit promotion.
If you work in the radio room let FOP know so they can help you draft a memo stating any accidental discharge of a taser is the fault of the Taser and would allow you to sue both Taser and the department as a result.
The effects of EMF on humans was a plotline in the series Breaking Bad. It was summarily dismissed by the affected industries as creative fantasy. But is it? We are totally surrounded by and constantly bombarded by electric fields. WiFi, cell phone, power lines. There is so much out there that the public doesn't know and is being hidden from them for economic reasons.
Perhaps we shouldn't offhandedly dismiss the concerns.
Once you got hired and graduated and hit the streets, you became the real police… no need to go and violate people’s rights by going to tac… stay where you are and keep doing your job office…
Talk to the FOp. Oh wait, they don't care. But, I too wonder about these new technologies. Many officers have already sworn off the new taser, not wanting to even carry it in the field.
It can be a stepping stone to disaster.
So, what's compromising the radios..?
Training and support group no longer exists. The department reorganized two weeks ago.
Merit Loughran. Useless as a detective, useless at the acedemy.
Retired several years ago with a sore back. Went to Orthopedic doctor who examined (ex-rays and mri). He stated that my spinal column had severe degeneration in the L3 L4 area and L4 L5 area. He asked me what I did for a living. Told him I was a police officer. He stated, "that explains it". I He told me many of his patients are former police officers and tradesmen. He went on to say that those two professions have one thing in common> They carry extra weight around their waist: police officers carry their utility belts and tradesmen carry their tool belts around their waist. You do this for 25/30 years it wears on your back.
Don’t believe any back stabbing supervisors
The batteries are falling out left and right, and there’s amc msg about missing batteries on daily basis.
Give it a good whack to make sure the batteries are properly seated in, but wait don’t whack it too hard coz the cartridge may fall out!!!
Taser is a cope that allows small women and physically weak men the ability to navigate law enforcement.
Can we talk about the fact that Taser on average has about a 40% success rate?
And that the general orders restrict the usage of tasers in such a way that the vast majority of deployments violate department policy?
But as long as Terry Hilliard makes his money all is well.
In short, yes.
Learn to be a competent policeman on the watch.
Then go learn new skills on tact.
Yes, or those in mental distress. Or on drugs.
Like who the fuck are we supposed to be using these things on? The only ones who actually NEED to get tased are the ones our policy says we shouldn’t tase.
Much prefer hands-on myself, but sadly that’s frowned upon these days.
Agreed. I can’t see how anyone involved thinks this new contraption is anything but a gigantic liability.
The unit it steps you to is callback.
The atf says otherwise, the learning said soo too.
Lighten up, Francis!!!
After you catch a dozen beefs and a couple of lawsuits you will sleep in the hole in the cemetery like everyone else unless you get fired first.
You forgot the black plastic whistle.
Always good for ghetto wolf hounds.
These old heads who complain and nag all the time are the reason the police are this predicament. Violating rights, beating ppl up for no reason, unprofessional, loving people up for almost nothing… then they want to retire or about to retire and talk about the state of the police. Yall caused this fallout. Idiots
Agreed. The night stick was very useful. Sometimes, just resting it on your shoulder, looking like you are in the batter's circle, looking ready even itching to use it, was enough to de-escalate a situation.
How about a sap? My retired neighbor said it was pretty handy.... back in the day..... ummm, I wouldn't know about its current functionality.
Agreed.
The TASER 10 is considered a firearm under federal law (Gun Control Act of 1968) because it uses a small explosive propellant to launch its probes. Unlike older models that use compressed gas, this specific design causes it to be classified as a firearm and an "any other weapon" (AOW) under the National Firearms Act.
When will they issue non-lethal shock batons that flow, like in the futuristic movie "Demolition Man"?
https://youtu.be/LQIRD57lls8?si=WVtubzNhIIwef2MV
https://youtu.be/2DoyYn-k-M0?si=HMvrjQ1HtNFsrEik
So you think when someone tases someone, it’s going to be considered a police involved shooting? And the whole circus that follows a police shooting will follow? Because the taser is a gun? Some of you are as dumb as a bar of soap.
I was ordered by a fuckhead SGT to put up barricades on 26th and state in 021on New Years Eve...took sniper rounds from Dearborns and Ickes...it was danger close
Tazers are unreliable and used too often in place of going hands on. Oh and why is Kathy brown or fox or whatever a supervisor? Oh wait. I know.
CPD has their own Taser repair center?
Tony G in 025 and E- learning on the end is more important.
BUT at least I can wear on the vest now. Take that Inspector who wrote me up for it 3 years ago!!
You should do more car chases, more street stops and learning to twirl your weapon while holstering it, especially at roll call. These career enhancing tips will get you noticed by all concerned. You sir, are Gold Star material.
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Cant blame him for making this job work for HIM...blame the bosses who allow it to happen!!
not the helmet
My nuts are still radioactive from the old handheld radar’s I used back in the day. (1979) Yep we stuck those between our legs while waiting patiently in our speed trap and they were always on. No triggers back then
Similar plotline in Northern Exposure...
Yes
Leave the guy alone, sure its cumbersome, but you can still police. Nowhere is as big a shithole as chicago. WE GOT REAL GOONS OUT THERE
I've never had it malfunction. It's always worked, and worked well.
Used it successfully since 2005. Never had a malfunction and usually painting someone was all that was needed. The biggest reason? they knew when we could shoot them with a handgun, they didn't with a taser. A few cops with tasers on could clear a corner quicker than any other method that didn't involve physical force and injury.
Yes.. they were still issuing the helmets back then.
In 1990 they also gave our class body armor.
After Kilroy and Hauser were killed we all had to buy the Safariland SS III holster. I put my border patrol holster back on after the academy. It was bad ass.
That's what plaintiff's attorneys will call it.
It depends.... have you bought your lifted Jeep yet? And have you perfected wearing a baseball hat backwards?
Meg they will bring back those big mag lights?
"I watched the movie "Serpico" 5 times I know I'm ready!" "And is it like 'Training Day' with Denzel ?"
I’m on e-learning right now. Goodnight @8:29pm
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