Privatizing Police Jobs
There has occasionally been noise about "civilianizing" certain police jobs and we've seen it in bits and pieces over the years:
- traffic aides
- lockup keepers (detention aides)
- desk personnel
We don't really recall anyone at the FOP putting up much of a fight - we couldn't strike over it and that may have been the beginning of Desk and Lockup bid spots being locked in - we aren't sure. Hell, we've advocated civilianizing the entire CAPS operation and even front offices to get more cops on the street.
This seems a bit far though:
For the past two years, the Forensic Services Unit has been going through a major and controversial shift after the City brought in a private company, Ron Smith & Associates. The company was supposed to help get the lab accredited and train Latent Print Examiners. Since then, the City has paid them more than $4 million, and there are growing questions about what that money has actually delivered.
What started as a limited consulting job has turned into something much bigger. Instead of finishing the work and stepping away, the contract keeps getting extended. Nearly two years later, the training still isn’t done, and the unit is more dependent on this private company than ever.
At the same time, leadership changes have closely followed this shift. James Snaidauf, a former employee of Ron Smith & Associates, was appointed Director of Forensics. According to multiple sources, the qualifications for this job were written so narrowly that no one else realistically had a shot—it all but guaranteed he would get it. This wasn’t an open, competitive hiring process; it was a position built for a specific person. Since taking over, there’s been a clear push to move out sworn personnel and replace them with civilian hires, including people coming through pipelines connected to Ron Smith & Associates.
Matt Marvin, who is also tied to the company, has been involved in this transition as well. Multiple people have reported hearing him make comments about how much he enjoys firing people and his hatred for unions. He has also allegedly told supervisors that there are future job opportunities waiting for them with Ron Smith & Associates. If true, that raises serious concerns about what's really driving decisions inside the unit.
The pressure is now hitting the Latent Print Examiners directly. About two years into their roles, they were told they now need to get certified through the International Association for Identification or risk losing their title. This requirement was never part of the original job, and it isn’t required by any state or national standard.
What makes this even more concerning is who’s tied to that certification. Multiple employees from Ron Smith & Associates—including Matt Marvin—sit on committees within the same organization that issues it. In other words, the same group connected to the City’s contractor is also helping shape or influence the certification now being pushed onto these officers.
This is a testable spot, correct? And as the writer points out, there is no history of these certifications being required at the State or National levels. This seems like a money grab for some connected company to (A) get rid of unconnected Officers, and (B) create a politically connected job market for the favored few.
This also opens the door to a entire swath of testable spots being eliminated. The FOP used to fight over bid spots and job titles. Is that a thing any more?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
204 Comments:
Jcat is too busy trying to save his behind from the feds.
What are the possibilities of the city hiring more anti-police, dei, leftists for these jobs?
1st day of training: here’s copa’s number, just say this…
Caps and desk spots should be for those on the medical, or more importantly the old cops still working.
Not for some bosses side piece.
The political director for our union- Mike cosentino, is just as corrupt. He was one of the negotiators during the last contract talks and he secured a title code bp to D-2A for E/T’s. Who’s also an E/T? Cosentino- which means he got a nice fat pension bump… E/T’s are lowkey one of the best spots on the department with great perks and good overtime. Why did they need a pay bump?
Contractually………………… the city is technically allowed to do this btw.
EJ needs to make this a campaign issue for Mette. Has JCat been made aware of this?
They’ll never privatize any job where a boss can put his mistress at. Let’s just forget about it.
The FOP Lodge 7 is largely absent with protecting the paying dues members assigned to forensics. They have left them out to dry. The FOP union at a resent meeting said they want to allow civilians into FOP Lodge 7. It sounds to me; the fix is in. FOP is in bed with the Gold Stars of CPD.
Clout and corruption go hand in hand in Chicago
I’m sure someone is getting a lot of money and a bunch of Democrats are getting kick backs. Bring in the Feds! Bring in Trump-mania!
I have been a Det for 13 years. The Forensic Unit has been messed up for a while now. Not sure what the problem is but it seems messed up!
Area One.
“ The FOP used to fight over bid spots and job titles. Is that a thing any more?”
J-Pussy opened the door to this when he allowed the city to promote people to bomb dog handler positions who didn’t take and/or rank as eligible on that portion of the test. Orchestrated by then CPD Gold Star Bosshole Sean Loughran.
FACT. JOHN ADMITS TO IT AT A BOARD MEETING AS MEMORIALIZED IN THE RECORDED MINUTES
Quid pro quo, anyone? What did Johnny Boy get for playing ball on that one?
I’d bet the farm that shit like this currently happening at forensics is because your union is at the trough.
Gee a non government organization tailoring itself intio the law enforcement government sector???
Yup it is going to cost jobs and payments directed to a self serving special interest group.
Another cash drain of taxpayer money and diluting LW jobs.
The Chicago Police Department Forensic Services Division has no one really knowledgeable. They suffer from brain drain and bring in clueless survivors. The current crop of Sgt’s and Lt’s are clueless. Now just like the rest of the department it has outsiders dictating policy. The Chicago Police Department doesn’t treat knowledgeable staff good and promotes Friends and family over knowledge, experience and hard work. All something for the young officers to think about as they watch the incompetence of this organization. You are watching one of the best Police Agencies being destroyed in real time.
All BS. Snaidauf took the Trump buy out from the Feds. The work of the forensic section kept getting tossed in court because CPD lacked proper accreditation. Murphy really drove the unit into the ground and it fell behind the times. If CPD wants to keep its forensic unit we need to fall in line with the accreditation standards that all other forensic units achieve. This can’t just be an indoor spot for people who want to show up for 4 hours and just shoot the breeze.
There’s no need for sworn officer to be in the front office, especially detective’s as area secretaries. While other detectives work their behinds off.
There’s no need for P.O’s as timekeepers.
There’s no needs for P.O.’s working in Caps. One sergeant from the watch can attend the 30 monthly Caps meetings. Besides there a huge gap between Caps and the D-Unit. Caps officers can only offer the department’s PR speeches. They rarely have real updates on crime or data.
There’s no need for officers working in the Graphics Arts Section.
There’s no need for sworn officers in the Award Section.
There’s no need for 5 officers in Research and Development.
There’s not need for five P.O.’s in the Are Deputy Chief’s office.
There no need for 10 officer’s in the Chief of Patrol’s office.
There no need for sworn members in the documents section.
Need I say more?
traffic aides, lockup keepers
desk personnel are mostly civilians. However, you definitely need P.O’s in the lock-up.
It sounds like forensics is like everything in CPD, screwed up. The bosses are the blame as usual. Why let private companies take over. Because the bosses don’t know what they are doing.
I have noticed the quality of unit has gone down considerably over the past few years. The new leadership is civilians and they want to hire their pals. LOL. Robbing Chicago taxpayers money. Nothing but theft.
The FOP should have been all over this. We need new blood in the Union. They got us as far as they could. They are old and tired and now let the bosses get over on our contractual rights.
It’s honestly bizarre. The city is broke, yet the department thinks it can somehow fund and maintain an accredited forensic lab.
The Illinois State Police crime lab system operates on a budget approaching a billion dollars, and even they struggle to keep up with staffing, equipment, and case volume. They offset some of the cost through statutory fees for court-ordered DNA and DUI testing, but there’s essentially no revenue tied to things like fired cartridge case analysis or fingerprint examinations.
Running a forensic lab is extremely expensive and operationally complex. Accreditation alone requires ongoing audits, validation studies, quality assurance programs, and highly trained personnel.
This is what happens when leadership promotes people without real operational expertise. When they don’t understand how these systems actually work, they end up relying on vendors whose primary interest is selling equipment, not building a sustainable forensic program.
Who’s brilliant idea was it to get accredited in the first place?
Get rid of desk bid positions and CAPS. Watch secretary position is usually held by some connected coward. ET’s can be civilized. Front office can be civilized. Don’t get me started on SDSC.
what can go wrong when that dei civilian hire notices when a fingerprint from a crime scene comes back to match his cousin? I'm sure all the notifications will be made
Bingo!!!!! The Chicago Police Department is giant cesspool of waste. Go to any suburban department and not one of these spots mentioned above are manned by a police officer (unless they are retired). The chickens are finally coming home to roost in Chicago. Go to the front office of any district or unit and more than half the Commanders staff are young female POs. They have no business inside. Those spot should have been for the sick (heart attacks, cancer, and organ transplants). Meanwhile there are guys with over 30 years on the job working the street waiting to turn 55. Our forensic unit should all be college graduates with a degree in forensic science and a state certification.
The private firms fleece the city more than police. Look at the body removal contract.
ETs do alot of work and merit a bump, just like the Major Accidents, FTOs and SWAT did. But when they settled for D2A pay bump they actually lost since they were giving up the D3 for working in firearms lab or the homicide scenes.
You sound like an old guy who is on the medical with NO bid spot!
SDSC personnel are the hardest workers on the job...just ask them.
Yes, keep going son, your doing fine. I bet your a secured spot somewhere!
They need to get rid os SDSC..why are they there anymore?? Not used for anything useful, if shotspotter isnt needed then either is SDSC.
Dont worry, JCAT and his sub minions will be out soon enough. Im sure when Jcat cleans out his office hell be taking alot of furniture with him including the $10,000 painting the membership paid for. Fucking thief.
Therein lies the problem.
No need for officers to be anywhere but in the streets where they belong
Disagree JCat stated it was a use it or loose it offer from the city.
This will free up more cops for the Mayor’s security detail.
But CAPS and the desk, as most of those inside spots, are for bosses side pieces and cowards.
No, bo, no SCC they just need to take the city's Ethics eLearning lol but seriously- WHERE TGE FUCK IS THE UNION ON THIS! We need that junk yard dog barking up and fighting back. Forensics today what tomorrow
I go to meetings and have heard unit or watch rep mention et stuff. Also heard other et's besides ej mention work conditions. But, what makes the minutes report is subjective to rob noceda(h) his interpretation and fingering of the stop recording, start recording button.
Tik tok Johnny
The crime lab has always been filled with political hacks.
More patronage spots. This is the "Chicago way"...it's all about those values. If it doesn't work out, they can raise taxes again and say that "It is all for the children".
Very true on all points. Think of all the retirements if these units and assignments went civilian.
No,the desk is for the most senior officers,NOT for the medical abusers. Sorry, you don’t want to work the street and don’t have seniority. Go to callback or retire.
Desk is by seniority. Yes, eliminate CAPS and the front office.Also, they need to fire some of the most serious medical abusers.
Has anyone heard about the VRI money that is still owed?
But the supervisors are really competent and smart with their Calumet college and online degrees.Obviously I am joking.
Absolutely.
He’s giving away the farm here, allowing the city to interpret our CBA any way they want to while he has Cosentino jerking off any/every politician down in Springfield. This isn’t being done for the benefit of the membership, it’s all part of Cuntanzara trying to soften the blow of the Federal hammer that’s coming down on him. Those of us who know the real “J Cat” understand that John is all about John. Always has been. Period. Full stop.
And speaking of Springfield, the Feds et al… what’s up with the State FOP? Leadership bailing. Scrambling to reorganize. Charges of John Catanzara illegally accessing the State FOP Prez’s computer, email etc. (I’ve seen the email listing all the improprieties alleged by Southwood).
These actions are all signs of a desperate man who knows his time is running out. Smart money says John Catanzara takes down the ship with him… it’s what cowards and bullies do. Don’t let his big mouth continue to fool you.
It’s run by Chief of Dets Ursitti enough said!
Sounds about in line wit da Chicago Way... youse gotta problem wit dat?
The problem here is the Lts were never ETs have no clue or desire to learn there responsibility. They are at work for 2 or 3 hours and gone.
This is David Brown all over again. When that clown came here all civilian training went through his buddy s agency out of Dallas. It was blatantly embarrassing.
The FOP is a national joke. They’ve massacred don’t update you on nothing. First he is so lazy he moves to videos on Friday, now, those are what? Once a month? Every other month? Take a look at NYPD union social media. How much they address.
LFG!!
put cops on the streets where they belong….simple as that. too many house mice in cpd
The problem wasn’t CuJo Murphy. It was Herbie Keller. A self appointed boss who was noting more than a PFI protected by his people. He ran the unit into the ground because He was always considered the smartest ever eventhough nobody respected him. He talked a good game was about it. He never had the back of the ETs and would pick on females. He went against ETs and sided with the brass and shoulda been kicked out of FOP. But since he was finally banned from Forensics for talking however he wanted to a female LT and calling her any names under the sun (mostly names dealing with her alternate lifestyle) and being protected by CUJO, he now is an FOP rep and best friend with JCat. Surprised?
Connected coward! Great line , unfortunately it probably describes a higher percentage of the department than we need
FYI ETs got a pay bump since they started doing the roles of PFIs which no longer exist. PFIs made D3 pay for homicides and police shootings etc So just made sense to get paid for the work they did .
Ok HK.
Exactly that. Ursitti doesn’t have a clue about Forensics and was put in charge. Then bring in LTs (airhead KH and absent MR) may be the worse LTs in the city. If one LT would stop working out for 2 hours and doing her real law job while at work and if the other LT would just show up to work and actually respect her staff(outside her side piece RF) maybe they won’t need outside contracter
This is just the beginning. Morale is very low in FSD. Good supervisors and ETs who actually care and want positive change in FSD are being deceived.
Problems are LTs are horrible and had connections to even get made and out there.
This outside contractor didn’t like one of the examiners and used a clerical error to have this officer demoted. No paper trial. No reprimand or talking with. Just a hater LT who all up under this company cause she don’t have to come to work. How many officers are allowed to work from Home? Not one supervisor backed up or advocated for this officer who didn’t do anything wrong to be demoted except voice her rights and orders. It so bad that this company (mainly matt Marvin) even made RF a committee member. It’s all a joke and about $$$$$. City is broke but paying this company $6 million plus and and looking to extend
JCat here....
Just a reminder....The food truck is ..."Cash Only"
It's called....
The Chicago way.
Next Question.
Problem was the Murphy/Keeler/Keating regime. They destroyed FSD. 100%. RS&A are clueless with CPD practices, but they got their million$. They could care less, obviously.
Got some messed up Dets, too. Particularly the “multiple choice” detectives.
Do they still have crossing guard coordinators?
Let’s not forget the director oversees both Forensics and ERPS. With everything that needs attention in those areas, they chose to spend roughly $7 million (when all is said and done) pursuing accreditation for firearms examinations that don’t require it and fingerprint work that can simply follow the established standard.
Meanwhile, the ERPS facility is literally deteriorating. The building is overcrowded, aging, and packed with evidence to the point that it’s becoming a safety hazard.
At some point you have to ask: how are these priorities being set? Because right now the focus appears to be on expensive, unnecessary certifications while the basic infrastructure needed to properly store and manage evidence is falling apart.
Frankly, it’s surprising defense attorneys haven’t already started introducing photos of the evidence storage conditions in court to challenge cases.
Catanzara isn’t a police officer. He is a civilian, retired but still a civilian. He should not be head of the FOP.
SDSC already calls out non crimes all the time. They need to be held accountable and I’d say it’s easier to hold sworn accountable than it is civilians.
Do they still have review officers in every district?
Make house mouses Work the streets again. CAPS, watch secretary, upstairs po’s, SDSC, desk po’s….
The problem is that they will replace sworn personnel with civilians and pay them the same rates not saving any money, defund the police and what not.
How's that COLA treating you?
follow the money. civilianize the Inspector position. Does CPD need a Captain at $160,000 a year to write up a P.O. for no bump card, colored fingernails, not wearing a safety vest. You can check the dog ass coppers leaving their location, not clearing on GPS. Give a civilian a job at $50,000 a year. Let the Captain conduct roll calls and write up uniform, grooming infractions.
SCC, I am conducting a study right now on all exempt positions on dept and how many actually passed a promotional exam (Sgt or Lt) by score. over 85% of all exempts received a merit promotion. Basically the top leadership making decisions never passed a promotional exam.
I have seen civilian timekeepers in the past. Be careful what you wish for.
I do not know the head of the union, but I find your comments just plain wrong and potentially offensive. Save his behind from what, exactly ? What do you know ? What are the allegations ? Put up or shut up.
Oh, this place has been going downhill quickly since 2010 or so!
Define need.
As in law enforcement is, by definition, a duty needing sworn to Constitutional Oath, aka, NOT political shitstains.
Need you say more?
“Need I say more?”
Yeah! Please let all of us know how many other Cops you want to throw under the bus?
That old cop that’s walking with a limp because of a bad car accident years ago?
They deserve the inside spot.
That cop that’s got a bunch of CR’s from being the Police, and not dumb shit?
They deserve the inside job.
The working female cop that’s pregnant?
She gets that inside spot for a while.
THOSE are the ones that deserve those places!
P.o’s only in the lockups if detention aides allow it so STFU and hit the streets whinner
You said it all but nothing will change
First off, it’s civilianized, not civilized. For fuck sake. Secondly, wanting a bunch of police hating civilians to take over even more spots doesn’t make you the real police, it just makes you a goofy liberal. Talk about a coward.
Agreed!
They got rid of PO's in the lockup years ago.
The days of the CPD carrying old or hurt officers is long gone. They want everyone to retire or go on disability. Sad.
He was also our fop Springfield lobbyist and now we have the Safety Act with ILETSB.
Get rid of the Review spot
Somebody needs to do something. The department is doing what ever they want and we are still mandated no time off and refused time off for BS reasons. How can we be short manpower when this is how they run every day.
How about we do away with the bosses who do crap like that.
Completely agree. The FOP gave us ILETSB. They should have been doing something to stop it. They never backed the Police Chiefs who were against it. They should have been up on stage with them.
The Chicago way!
You will never see local media coverage by any news source.
It’s all the democrats who control everything know.
Weekends its 2 hrs. and the fighting between the female and male with c.r. nos. The department is a joke.
It is messed up. There was a power struggle about 5 to 6 years ago with the then Lt and the Director. The Lt and her stooges won. Now working here is unbearable. The bosses are the biggest problem now. They don’t know what they are doing.
The FOP is in bed with the company. I don’t want to make this a long response but they are. I’m sure with fop elections coming it will come to light.
Chicago has just become more and more corrupt.
Most of the bosses promoted under the last two mayors terms are all about themselves. The current group of bosses are clueless. They bring in outsiders when they don’t know what to do. That’s what they get when it’s all friends, family, girlfriends and DEI. Chicago is doomed. My neighbors are all planning on moving out because of crime and taxes.
Spoken like a true democrat supporter. I don’t know who Murphy is but accreditation is just a money grab. If you are doing everything with scientific methods and practices how can anyone complain. You must have been out of town during COVID. Sounds like a masked vehicle driver in your vehicle by yourself.
I guess we should just close everything down. Who cares about sensitive material. Part of the reason for sworn vers civilians is quality and security. Some of the civilians are making just as much money and do go through the same standards and can’t relate to the people doing the job. Everyone should be sworn. End of story!
Sure thing Superintendent’s secretary.
Cosentino was a jagoff in 96-3 B too. Acted like he was an extra in Goodfellas. 😂
It was a Democrat who wanted kickbacks.
The word forensic comes with a great cost. That’s why the forensic community is small and the bulk of it came from government or workers for a government body.
I guess the Chicago Police Department has the Forensic Unit it wanted. Dysfunctional at best. Just like the rest of the department. Now everything is in line. Just make your time, retire and move away. Your all part of history and watched the destruction of a once great city.
If only the public knew what was going on. The whole place is ran by idiots. Close forensics and farm everything out to the private company.
Everything you said is true and I completely agree. These positions should be voluntary and come with a pay decrease if a sworn officer volunteers to take them on. They're not police officers anymore, they do not answer calls nor investigate crimes. They're not cops; they're effectively civilians with guns and a cop's paycheck. Either make it fully civilian or make it a pay cut. If they want to work there after a 25-35% pay cut then so be it; otherwise, get back on the watch and push a beat car or start investigating crimes again as a detective.
When they bring in people from other agencies to run the department as Superintendent, I knew it was over. Chicago was a unique place and they ruined it. Cancel x-mass!
Leave SDSC alone. Those guys have the sport pay for view packages and many inside officers watch three different college or professional football games simultaneously. And don't forget the latest hollywood releases, sweet 16 games, MLB games, and bickering on lunch some beat car has to fetch for them.
rumorville gavin newsome no way , 2028- kamala bought off with a high paying do nothing job with the university of california college systems
michael obama will be the 2028 democratic nominee
He got corrupted by power.
Most ET’s are lazy. One of the easiest jobs on the job. All of them are clouted up! The whole job is a shit-show. The working man is an idiot. Let’s bring on clouted civilians now too!
E.T. go home. Yeah you extra-terrestrials and you illegal aliens go home.
E.T. positions were always closed to the average officer. Sure, you could take the test, but if you didn’t have a phone call to back you up, you were outta luck. Those who made E.T. were often passed over for appointment to the Mobile Crime Lab, which provided a pay raise and more status. If you weren’t wired, or willing to play the game you were passed over. This so called, Privatization, is
Almost a billion dollars to run a state police forensics lab? It can't be that expensive. Its not like a Somali daycare lerning center or California Medi-Cal medical care in democrat ruling states. Who said crime doesn't pay for its connected privately controlled administration. Where is D.O.G.E? How about some inquisitive crooked mainstream media investigative reporters attempting a forensic audit on the forensic unit?
Jcat rain is just about over. No one wants a president of FOP who has issues and lets the department act goofy with its employees. You can’t even get a day off.
Mike is two faced. Scam artist.
Totally support someone running against these fools.
We lost our baseball caps. That is total BS! I’ll never vote for anyone who is currently elected to FOP lodge 7. Get rid of ILETSB.
Thieves only no corruption and robbing other people‘s money.
I came on 20 years ago and don’t recognize the way we police or the way the bosses treat its officers. The boss ran the job into the ground destroying morale and instituting bad policies. I 100% blame upper management the Gold Stars for all of it. That was their area of responsibility. They came in late, left early and moved on not caring about the people actually doing the work!
The union only fights issues that benefit the elected officials of Lodge 7. The longer your around and the more you involved the more you see it.
Forensics is a backwards running spot. My guy works there and said so. I believe him. Anywhere they are they to put civilians is either messed up or a key position to plug the Mayors guys!
Why is forensics running so badly. I made detective and hear a lot of bad things.
What? you didn't get yours, I got mine 4 months ago.
He never was one. Always been a scamming beotch. But he’s stealing with both hands now.
It's the backbone of the democratic machine, the Chicago way.
You can't be serious. As if there haven't been cases of CPD bosses hiding things. There are lots of cases of cover ups by CPD to protect the connected or significant other.
They can hire anybody they want. Just don't fuck with my desk position and Saturday Sunday DOG on 2nd watch.
Responding to comment below:
Three people could have never destroyed a Unit. Take some responsibility. The Sgt’s wanted to take over with Bulnes and they did. I was here in the Unit during the whole thing/time. The Unit is messed up because everyone thought they knew better and tried to be bullies. The two now retired Lt’s JC and DJ covered up all the incompetence and the Unit and the workers suffered. They retired and screwed the place. As far as the 3: one is deceased, and the other two can retire anytime they want. I guess we showed them and let’s high five each other they are gone, like the days when all the rumors want around and everybody said it will be better without them. Everyone here should be a shamed of themselves for talking crap endlessly behind peoples back. I’m ashamed of this retarded Unit. No camaraderie, friendship or brotherhood in forensics. I hope it’s true and they do leave with millions. The joke is on you fools buying into the other team is better.
Signed an ET in the know, who was here.
Problem was the Murphy/Keeler/Keating regime. They destroyed FSD. 100%. RS&A are clueless with CPD practices, but they got their million$. They could care less, obviously.
Got some messed up Dets, too. Particularly the “multiple choice” detectives.
4/13/2026 09:39:30 AM
SGT G Krupa runs it.
That’s because there is a bunch of idiots who worked there and are continuing to work there. Nice!
When the people assigned to forensics look around and don’t see any suckers and they bought into the stuff management sold them, then they are the suckers. A private group is now running your bosses. Unbelievable!
So true!
The Illinois State police laboratory is all civilians in progress civilian contract. They get off on voting days like holidays. A bunch of political hacks with state jobs! Now go work the Democrat polls.
Forensics sounds like a really messed up place to work. I thought I had it bad. But that place really sounds messed up! LOL!!!!!!!
For the idiot that posted at 10:09, sure, let's allow police hating civilians the ability to write up coppers for uniform infractions, not shaving, etc. What could possibly go wrong?
I wanted to be a delegate to the last Fop National Convention in Las Vegas. One of the reasons was that I knew that John Catanzara did not want the “ real story “ about the Kevin Graham “ camera story “ to get out .
I e mailed Rob Noceda who replied that I had to contact Mr . Catanzara to be a delegate .
Catanzara replied to my e mail and said he would let me know after the Fop Lodge 7 Board meeting which he would bring my name up . He did bring my name up but lied that I never asked him . He then told the Board that because I did not properly ask him he would not entertain a motion for me to be a delegate . I brought charges because “ HE LIED “ to the Board .
Dave Disanti was the head of the committee which heard the grievance in which the Committee asked me several questions and none to the accused . They never addressed the actual charges against Catanzara .
Hers a guy who’s been to the Police Board four times, resigned without credentials , has far too many complaints against him and no one asks him any questions .
Needless to say the committee kicked the grievance to the curb and agree with Catanzara . Not done yet with this crew and we still don’t know who is investigating the “Lodge ?”
Stay tuned
Pat Murray
Kind of ridiculous to continue to blame Murphy & HK they've been gone from forensics for a while
Airport jobs should be civilian security also. Lazy pos at midway and ohare. And crybabies at ohare. Speaking of we haven’t heard about 050 3rd watch in awhile. Maybe BK has them all in his pocket now. I think they were scared of him.
Agree and active needs to be President. Having a retired person is a bad look.
FSD is a wreck and nothing but a bunch of cry babies. Pull up your big boy pants and stop crying. Stop pointing fingers. Accept your position and work harder. That’s the way you do it. If that doesn’t work call peer support.
I hear a lot of things too and they are all true. The workers all blame each other and the supervisors blame lack of real training. The workers get over because they are showing and telling the supervisors what they should be doing. SNAFU the new CPD. The blind leading the blind. Love it. LOL. DEI at its best.
“. civilianize the Inspector position.”
You’re not that smart, are you?
You think copa is bad?
The bosses walked around playing on their phones. Had not one original idea or strategy to help the organization. Talk about frauds. A bunch of gold star police impersonators. Like children dressed up for Halloween. Scary. Would be funny is it didn’t have real life consequences.
Disagree JCat stated it was a use it or loose it offer from the city.
4/13/2026 07:20:04 AM
You’re completely clueless and are missing the bigger issue. The Federal money for bomb dog spots was there. What WASN’T there were people on the rank order eligibility list for bomb dog - that list had been exhausted of eligible people. ELIGIBLE people.
Instead of the Department and city getting egg on their face, THEY LIED TO THE FEDS AND SAID THEY HAD PEOPLE ON THE BOMB DOG LIST READY TO GO. THEY DID NOT. This was coordinated and facilitated by Sean Loughran and the FOP.
Instead, they pulled people from the PATROL canine list for those spots. People who DID NOT rank as eligible for a bomb dog spot and even one guy (C. B.) WHO DIDN’T EVEN TAKE THE BOMB DOG PORTION OF THAT TEST.
So while “use it or lose it” may have been uttered at some point during these backdoor, illegal promotions, the Department and City had zero right to circumvent the promotional process. And what’s worse is that John Cantanzara allowed it to happen. He opened the door to this type of shit happening again, and it appears this Forensics debacle is just another CBA protection that John and company are going to selectively choose to ignore.
And all of this isn’t rumor or conjecture: I have the Rank Order Eligibility Lists from that 2015 Canine Test. I have obtained via FOIA which candidates took which portion (Bomb or Patrol) of the test, or both. I personally contacted those affected and encouraged grievances. Approximately 20 officers filed grievances and the Grievance Committee (on which I sat) voted UNANIMOUSLY to address the issue. That’s when Grievance Committee co-chair Jim Jackstavich called John down from his office to tell him that there was a fly in their ointment. John then tried to persuade the committee to walk back their vote, saying a 2/3 majority would result in the grievances being tossed. When that failed, John blurted out - verbatim - “we’ll just kill these at the next Board Meeting. And that they did.
I have a copy of the minutes from that meeting where John openly admits Loughran approached the FOP to set this all in motion. THAT’s where the phrase “use it or lose it” appears. They were talking about losing federal dollars for bomb dog spots. Again, THEY LIED TO OBTAIN FEDERAL FUNDING.
I don’t know about you, but I refused to be okay with the union I paid dues to for 33 years allowing the department to complete circumvent the promotional process and installing UNQUALIFIED people to a great spot which wasn’t earned. There’s already enough corruption in all things related to CPD promotional processes. ESPECIALLY with great spots like canine. It’s despicable that our own union went above and beyond to finish destroying whatever integrity might have been left in the promotional process. And once you open that door, good luck getting things back to how they should be.
As I’ve mentioned as this was all in motion, I’ll be happy to provide every shred of documentation I’ve obtained in the event any coppers that got screwed want to pursue legal action.
Glen P. Popiela
Unit 341 Canine - RETIRED
Agreed, there should be no retirees in positions that impact our livelihoods.
The above poster speaking ill of the dead is uncalled for. The Commander as we called him has been gone over five years from the unit and has been decided for going on 2 1/2. Move on. If anyone destroyed anything it is your lacking self. Why didn’t you step up and show us all how to do it. You got what you wanted now enjoy it. I don’t care about the others (two) but I’m not going to stand by and do nothing when you pick on someone who is no longer living and was officially disabled in the end of his life.
You are a coward, hiding behind anonymous. I’ll guarantee if he was still living and the Commander you’d be speaking nicely to him trying to curry favor.
Get your time in and retire. That’s all you can do. The CPD bosses ruined the job. I feel sorry for anyone coming on today. Looking at everyone’s comments and opinions it’s over. Just bring on the civilians. Close the place down. A bunch of illiterate idiots are following the bosses.
Huh? I took one of the first tests back in ‘02 (maybe? It was a long time ago). I scored in the 60s. Which meant 5 years later I got called. I was very average.
Now the crime lab was another story.
The Latent print examiners unit began with 25 Officers, how are they down to 10 officers? This is something the department/city should look into! This company (Matt Marvin) is simply interested in the city's back pocket and how much he can get away with. Some officers can't take part two of the detective test due to their accreditation examination being held the same week. The city does not need to renew their contract. The money can be better spent elsewhere.
I would leave the FSD if it wasn’t for the D2A. The place is one big embarrassment. I do the best I can under the worst circumstances. Think twice before coming here. Study hard to get something else. It’s not the job. It’s the supervisors.
The Academy should be added to this post. BS going on there with civilianizing.
There is a Union meeting going on Wednesday at noon. Go up to the mic and what them stutter. Especially stuttering Jack. He is Jcats boi.
Look at the the idiots they have brought in there over the last few years. Brand new Lts directly there that were never ETs. Hanrahan, Holtkamp( Ralph’s daughter) it never ends.
It starts at the top. Stop putting the friends of Hein and Ursitti in spots that people need to know what they are doing.
Hey asshole I’d give up a COLA for 10hr days and over the course of a 25 year career have 1,000 more days off with my family.
What about the range? 👀
CONTRACT LANGUAGE IS EVERYTHING.
CONTRACT LANGUAGE IS EVERYTHING.
CONTRACT LANGUAGE IS EVERYTHING.
Donahue, shields, Angelo, Graham and Catanzara… you can elect Mickey Mouse right after him… these people only care about pensionable money.
Sgt G Krupa knows all about forensics and is in the pocket of the new regime.
I agree. Too many do nothings there and none want to ever work a full shift. And too much backstabbing also
Keep up the good work, the Cat will be gone hopefully by indictment, and Dave DiSanti, got three civil suits pending for threatening and lying about active and retired members. Moron doesn’t have his home in a trust, going to be funny in interrogatories asking him about his comments.
Give it a year and none will be left. Three million for what.
Send all the academy/HQ PO’s back to the streets. They love HIDING
She was the previous Chief’s admin Sgt. No joke. From admin Sgt to Chief. Unreal.
They are insane if they think any significant positive changes coming. The whole department is screwed up.
We get it. That’s how I feel in the District. The job pays my bills.
LOL! Runs her mouth.
Fed was marked down for civilization back in 2023 or 2024. They were going to keep a few sworn for continuity. I heard in a city hall subcommittee meeting. It was part of a larger plan to get other unions into police work and others a peice of the pie. The resource allocation is just the newest iteration.
Their destruction started it all. It lies solely on their shoulders. Their fuckery, mostly Keeler, cus he took advantage of sickly Murphy, is coming to roost in recent years. Had they not played the games they played, none of this would be happening now.
Then there would hardly be any bosses left and more of these females would be in a beat car working the streets.
Look at headquarters as well. A majority of the officers working there come and go as they want and get overtime for nonsense. Supervisors do the same, exempt who shows up for 5 hours a day, what joke. Check gps on vehicles assigned to units at headquarters, and dump the scammers. Bring in the civilians. . Someone needs to implement swiping.
You were always a thorn in the administrations side Glen and I love it 🥰
They just need to change the name of "Merit" promotion and call it what it really is. Actual "merit" is almost never what it is. Essentially, CPD is "The Dilbert Principle" in real life action.
Loughran is the coward that stripped me during Covid. That Loughran? And he laughed while doing it. He honestly enjoyed it and found it funny. I swear to God
Crazy man
Them too ;)
In 019 the 3rd watch secretary has only 5 yrs on the job and has been inside most of them...talk about never working the street. Then again, you have 3rd watch Lt's who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground. One of them is Carters minion who is completely clueless.
HK should be in jail for what he did and money he steals. HK acts like he’s a good complex but only big thing about him is his mouth and stomach. Karma!
Ok HK. You got banned and now you act like an ET. We all it’s you bashing ETs.
I think that is their ultimate objective, so they can civilianize the unit.
Mr. Catanzara does. What he wants because of fixed elections and people who are more concerned with their stipend checks than anything else .
How many cops were in Florida getting their checks and not going to the meetings ? Say what ? The Feds are coming and who is gonna pay for these made guys attorneys ?
Let me tell you like it is. I worked in FSD and been promoted but will tell you, if not for the pay bump, I would had stayed in FSD. Best spot I had worked thus far. Don’t believe the haters. The street ETs work hard and love their job. Don’t listen to certain former staff who just hate because they were kicked out. I can’t totally speak for 177, but the supervisors on the street are fantastic. There is/was one odd ball but that’s another story. I can say they need more SGt on the street side but clout/politics hurt that possibility. Which leads me to mentioning about the supervisors of 177. I can’t say personally I know all but still talk to current ETs who fill me in
LTs:
KH : her dad still looks out for her and she definitely in over her head in that spot. Not the smartest and takes credit for work others do which she does none of the work. She does more work in the gym than on the job. (She was my LT and didn’t meet her until I got promoted)
LT MR: Know her from patrol days. It’s night and day. She def don’t belong in FSD. Part of the morale situation stems from her. Another merit who runs things from home (literally). Everyone says she has problems and may be the worse supervisor in the unit. Shame cause she actually good people but a bar can change that
Sgt DG: awesome guy. No complaints
SGT AW: another great guy Worked with him. Hard worker and has some minor issues with his staff but nothing major
SGT ES: smartest supervisor in unit. He shoulda been made director
SGT RAG. Don’t know her to well. But heard horror stories from her staff. One of those who stripes make her powerful.
SGT RF: funny guy. but still same as HK (his bestfriend) who been banned. Nobody wants to work for him but great guy (when he not talking behind your back). He is MR OT which at some point. The upper staff has to realize he doesn’t do anything. I’ve heard stories he never goes to court but does the work of an ET for OT. How’s that allowed??
SGT TR: don’t know her but hear, she knows people and a spot was made for her. Guys I talk to don’t know who she even is or what she does in FSD
SGT CL: Don’t know CL but hear he is a smart great guy. Only complaint I hear is another new sgt brought back to inside unit
SGT GK: phenomenal person. Smart. Knew her as an ET but not as a supervisor.
Sgt MS: Matt is great!
Again some are from
What friends still within FSD tell me and some I know personally. I have no ill will towards anyone. Just calling like it is
Yep, same jag off, sean Loughran. He abruptly retired and took a spot in a northern suburb after he fucked people with covid strips. And don’t forget Mette he was the go between to make all those k9 promotions. He worked for Loughran and those 2 are thick as thiefs. Dont believe him playing hero now is legit he co-signed for Loughran. Too late Mette.
What ever happened to the two chubby white guys who worked at the firearms desk? Are they going to replace them too?
Anybody notice how much the number of sergeants increased at FSD over the years? Completely unwarranted.
FSD is great. Change up the LTs and some supervisors. One of best spots to work. Only my 2nd year but love working with fellow ETs. Not sure what happening to labs but we love working on FSD. PS. Sal is my fav
where have you been i retired five years its been like that the past 30 years
Um yea sure
shave , wear your hat, clean your uniform pants, shirt,shine your shoes, wear body armor . look good and no write up from a captain or civilian inspector
civilianize airport security, station security, mayors bodyguard and city hall ,also the court section .
Like the stupid ot districts or any other units
Blue cards for example
Well I have been witness to a former CPD ET that submitted his own fingerprints from a crime scene.......3 separate times to be exact
You forgot Sgt KR and Sgt. SC. Two of the best supervisors in the Dept.
ILETSB is state law.
"Disagree JCat stated it was a use it or loose it offer from the city". Bullshit! there were people that were promoted to bomb dog that never tested for the position.
Thank you, Glen
The fop food truck ans the easter bunny will soon be civilinized.
SCC: a suggestion?: to have some sort of open post about the civilianizing of unit 124/academy. It’s awful what the hell has happened there
Desk spots are a bid with most officers having 25 years on or more and waiting to retire.Get some time on the job Francis
Glen as always great work! Always had our back even way back in our 11days. God bless.
Jimmy Mac Says;
Why not just hire CPD Retirees part time seasonal ? They can already carry guns, and are familiar at least somewhat, with the job. Hiring anti Police civilians will only lead tomadditional problems and expensive Lawsuits.
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