Police Layoffs?
Not likely among the rank and file, but among PPOs without Contract protections? It's been done before waaaaay back under Harold Washington:
Some Chicago city employees, including police officers, could face layoffs this fall as Mayor Brandon Johnson and members of the City Council's budget accountability coalition clash over responsibility for a projected $98 million midyear budget shortfall.
Johnson's administration outlined the deficit in its latest budget update, prompting a new round of fingerpointing over stalled revenue plans and the potential impact on jobs and a planned $260 million advance pension payment.
Conehead was bitching about the City Council refusing to enact his Head Tax, something that has been proven time-and-time again to drive businesses OUT of Chicago, some merely establishing their addresses across the street in a border suburb.
Oh, and what the Hell is a "pension advance payment"?
The $16.7 billion budget approved by a City Council majority that rejected Mayor Brandon Johnson’s corporate head tax required the city to make a full $260 million advance pension payment to stave off another costly reduction in Chicago’s bond rating.
The Johnson administration ignored that mandate, made a half payment of $130 million in January, and promised to pay the other half in the second quarter of this year. Now that second installment is in jeopardy.
So Conehead and his people (folks?) lied again.
But he had $500 million for ILLEGAL ALIENS.
$400 million in TIF money for a soccer stadium.
$100 million "redirected" to some anti-violence grifters.
And extra $800 million in fantasy money that might have bought back the parking meters.
Now they might miss a "pension advance payment"?
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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The state is up to some sketchy pension planning to lure people in with big up front payments. Basically the scam is big check now and you get less later. Just ask yourself one simple question are the Illinois house and senate members adjusting their pension plans and if they aren’t well that’s your answer if you should.
Instead of making their obligated pension payments, they take that money and use it for pet projects. And they do that for decades. And then we end up in the hole we are in, and people blame the unions instead of the city for stealing pension money to pay for all kinds of stupid shit they’re not supposed to be spending money on. Plenty of other municipalities and states, blue and red, manage to fund their pensions just fine. You just can’t steal the pension money and use it on illegals, laptops for students, feeding students in the summer, midnight basketball, violence interrupters, “bleeding kits”, silly signs saying ICE can’t stage here, etc. If you just make the obligated payments you budgeted for, it turns out it’s pretty simple. Or steal the money for decades and blame low level working men and women. Potato potahto.
Man. I have 31years on anc waiting for 55! Offer me a
Buy out now
It might start with PPOs but Conehead might like what he sees and maybe he will expand it. He has no use for the police. The quicker ICE can get rid of these illegal aliens the more money we will have to pay our bills. The soccer stadium is a private enterprise, why do we need to fund it? We could pay out bills with that money. One hundred million dollars to the anti violence grifters? Who are they specifically, their qualifications and what is their past performance and their plan? We could pay our bills with that money.
Cut most of the desk dollies
The reality is if you are 5 years from retiring you will not see a pension.
Don’t forget those deputy mayor positions just for the criminal illegal alien crisis 😆and like you always say, any job with the word assistant
Off topic. I went to go qualify with my pistol yesterday night at PSTC. Some guy who says he isn't even the police told me he wouldn't let me qualify because I didn't have my stick or pepper spray. I lost my stick at a detail like 3 years ago and the city never replaced my pepper spray years ago. This guy is a civilian and he's dictating what I have to do?! I asked about qualifying with my off duty and he said he wouldn't replace my ammo either. I work way south and it would be easier to qualify at a range by me but those ranges are always closed. They're probably sleeping behind locked doors. What a pain in the ass.
Thought they had to layoff every other agency and department before they could touch cpd
conehead being a conehead, only a few months left of him now he won’t hide his hatred for the white people and hispanic people, and quite frankly anyone who doesn’t agree with him. Your scam is up brandon the walls are closing in buddy. I wouldn’t be surprised if your the former mayor that ends up in federal prison for stealing during your soon to be one term horrible scamdemic mayor:
Thank you for attention to this matter
Typical west side $hit bird he should be in federal prison soon.
I am not your usual chicken little, sky-is-falling kind of guy, but....!
Within the last year I have paid off my mortgage, car loans, and am putting about 1/2 of my monthly retirement check into savings, Detroit, Flint, and other full time FD's took a 10% cut in their pensions.
There is no guarantee that it will "only" be 10% if, and when, Chicago goes belly-up!
Never understood why cops assigned to City Hall have to wear their dress blues ? Isn’t that reserved for special occasions?
Fuck that. Any union who's members are laid off should all as how much of a payout the mayor and the city council took, why they didn't implement the Ernst and Young recommendations, and why the city workers who owe a debt to city are already off without pay.
A government by the people for the people that is the constitution! Pension payments are a requirement as simple as that. As far as Harold Washington many of us were hired when he was mayor I think he went on a spree of hiring class of 1986 1987 many many were hired probably about 1000 more, the academy was so crowded. Some of us had a double up my lockers.
Blue Flu should be going around.....
he's managing the city's money like he managed his water bill and how the CPS manages its budget
don't worry, all those "investigative reporters" with the liberal media will be out there questioning conehead and demanding answers (hahahaa)
Red light and speed cameras. They're the answer to all fiscal maladies.
Simple changes can help save jobs of our brothers and sisters. Civilianize HQ and the academy. No need to have uniformed sworn officers inputting data and doing community organizing crap. Eliminate useless units (constitutional policing, awards, gun registration etc) and put those officers back on the streets along with the overpaid supervisors assigned to watch them do nothing.
You can bet good money that Brandon Johnson (bj) will be cutting services across the city as his term comes to a close! His polling numbers are a complete disaster. So if he is going out he might as well dump as many employees as he can? Just look at other cities with elected officials with bad money problems? It the easy way to defund the police……
Pay attention to history! Detroit went this same route and has never recovered.
I’m sure there is waste in every city department but this is a CPD site and I see first hand how there are officers running businesses while working administrative positions within our department. Unlimited time off to travel and utilize department resources to advance their “side jobs”. I’m sorry but if you have the type of job that allows you to take side job calls all day and can get all the time off you need to travel and arrange trips for people and no one misses any part of the job you do at CPD, then your administrative job is not needed! $110,000/year plus benefits saved. Now multiply that by a few hundred and you just saved a boat load of money. Enough abuse within this joke of a department. Let’s have some accountability for us tax payers Officers.
This is what happens when an illiterate moron representing the CTU gets elected to office.
Anyone remember Detroit? This is the game plan they used there! When the money ran out they all cried a river of tears! When they did a forensic accounting of the city. They found the elected officials made promotions of persons unqualified. The accountants and appointed managers were way over their pay levels making wild payments that could not be sustained…..Which lead to the eventual filing of bankruptcy!
How bout we get rid of these 06 and tact teams until we can fill the bear cars. If you can’t put up a beat car, then there’s no reason you should have 06 cars up or tact cars. It’s not like in the past when they were actually doing police work. These days the tact guys fly to a holding an offender, put all 10 team members on the arrest and then go home. And the 06 teams and purely numbers driven to make the commanders look good. Put them all back on the watches and have them help us answering calls.
They are blaming it on the delayed collection of property taxes because of another snafu at Texas based Tyler Technologies. The real reason is Bonehead is pouting because he didn't get his corporate head tax approved.
At least they can get sandwiches in the summer time
Yet the city's Democrat Leaders have spent well over 1 Billion on illegal aliens and are STILL shelling out millions every month for the illegal aliens!!!
Dont forget... the City also bought the Old Greyhound station for 19.2 million dollars.
Brandumb is a closet socialist. Defund the police and abolish the prisons. It is all laid out on the DSA website. Open the borders, and close the senate, and the executive branch and let the house of representatives appoint who runs the country. They say they will tax the rich but in every country where this has taken hold, the middle class get taxed the heaviest. They want complete takeover of the democratic party. Not just to come under their big tent and fit in.
Conehead isnt even trying to hide his agenda anymore is he? The DSA is clear. in their intentions. All of these social (Soros) justice warriors in the democratic party..ASA like Kim Foxx and Kwamee Raoul are working against our country to destroy it. Governor Fatass tends toward socialism as well. Stop electing these people or this will fester into a large problem people. Its worse than everyone thinks. Because the ultimate goal is unfettered power and taxing authority. They are already talking about taking over property in the hands of private interests. Does any of this sound familiar?
Saber rattling to scare the masses
It will be interesting to see how many of these PPO's are going to move to other police departments.
Dog eat dog out here.
Fool, you get uniform money. Go get a baton at the uniform store.
You get a new OC spray during ATIR class.
Fool, off duty weapon is bot covered by the department.
The anti-grifters on payroll is just another way of saying REPARATIONS!
Because they are not real police.
The Tact teams have been doing this for years...according to GO's the BEAT cars are supposed to be manned first but does this Dept ever follow any of its policies?? You can blame the Lt's and Commanders for this.
You really want the academy to be run by civilians??? Who know nothing?? Alot of HQ is already civilian, the P.O.'s that work there are hiding under the desks.
And some of these people on here bitch they want more civilians...they are completely useless and dumb as a box of rocks.
I was on the job and working in the sups office when the topic of layoffs came up in City Hall. The interesting discussion was every civilian should be laid off before any cops went. Then the question of the supervisors was studied endlessly, that is can a sergeant be demoted to a police officer before being laid off ? How many exempts would be reduced to their civil service rank instead of released? It seems that it all came down to the discussion that when a person is promoted they resign their previous rank. The conversations were endless with no resolution.
All desk people should be civilians as well as the front office. You only need 1 sgt at the desk in case something comes up other than that...put daddies little babies back on a beat car.
Anyone know whats going on with Heyjackass.com? Theyre my go-to source for homicides and shootings but they haven't updated for a few days.
Chances are he was the police as in he was a retiree. Do you think the civilian just arbitrarily and capriciously decided to create new rules and dictate to you what you have to do? It's probably more likely than not that, that is is what he was told to tell you. Don't kill the messenger.
PPO's are now certified law enforcement officers now!
If I got laidoff as a PPO there are a bunch of police agencies willing to do lateral transfers especially to red, right leaning states!
I would be gone to one of them if I were a PPO! Just a tip about being laidoff!
What you've done is called
" good math". I retired with no mortgage, no credit card debt, no car note. Started work on my house two years before my retirement date.I did as much overtime as I could since moving usually is expensive. Luckily it only took 3 months to sell my house. Moved to a growing suburb of Houston. Real estate got really hot over here so I also got lucky , my new homes value went up over 100 thousand within 2 years. Great neighborhood, great neighbors, Red State, so I live with like minded people. What you have have to ask yourself "ARE THINGS GETTING BETTER OR WORSE IN THIS CITY? " And act accordingly. Good luck to all of you and just remember , when you retire YOU ARE NOW FREE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. YOU ARE FREE.
The civilians at the range that aren't the police are retired CPD. You must have your baton and pepper spray to qualify. That was posted previously department wide. You can't get mad at them. Cameras everywhere and that was an order by CPD.
Yea, cuz the CPD is like the marine corps
Don’t they have to lay off civilians first?
The speed cameras are nothing but a cash grab against the working suckers, you don't see them on the Southside or Westside in the Mayor's neighborhood. You gotta love how they are even ensuring to conceal the locations even better until it is too late, the cameras and polls are now painted to blend in with the rest of the street light polls. Those 35 MPH signs are also entrapment, how do you say the speed limit is 35 MPH and then almost immediately the speed drops down to 20 MPH?
But the MSM is hiding the true DSA agenda even better than they hid the corpse in the White House for 4 years. Where da PHUCK is the government oversight of Fed Money that this mayor is literally playing hide and steal with? If there is any place that needs a reduction in force, it’s the CPS-CTU!
Everyone got assigned OC spray this past year. Way to be aware. That’s on you. And you always need your belt and vest. You never went to an asp?
Remember when MBJ claimed Paul Vallas was the author of a "Tale of Two Cities". I sure do, and guess what, MBJ himself is the true author.
Closet? No he is an Overt Socialist!
Not counting the parking meter deal, that is close to $1 billion of taxpayer money that Conehead has pissed away in 3 1/2 years. And then I read somewhere that he will be eligible for close to a $5 million pension value upon retirement between his CPS service and time as Mayor. The City of Chicago is f.....
Move out ASAP after retirement so as to protect your wealth. With a CPD pension funding of 25% and an unfunded liability of $13+ billion, there is no chance in hell we won't take a forced haircut sometime in the near future.
I was just at city hall a few days ago after traffic court and didn’t see one p.o. in their dress blues.
I miss the area range as well. Id rather pay a private outfit to qualify with my offduty. Big pain in the ass for no reason.
PPPO’s not covered or protected yet…
I agree with your message, however, there are more 06 and tact than beat officer and your post will be attacked. Just wear your crown cap backwards, pretend you have blue jeans on and dont talk to them.
They needed the busses in which to throw us under
Where’s he at with the 2000 Detectives he promised to make?
Well you’d regret that in long tin
What about that money in the budget for the 1,000+ vacant positions in the police department?
The smart move would be making it standing room only in every police cell.No more 19paul no station adjustments.You may even get the lawyers back on your side.(Not a cop)
All house mice should get way less pay.
No duty availability. No uniform and training stipend.
Great idea Do the job
Socialism is great !!! Until you run out of other people’s money.
Cut the nonsense I heard that 50 years ago when I came on and it only got better. COLA, earlier retirement age , less years on
fully paid health insurance and children included till 26. Appreciate what you are getting
Sounds like Conehead is taking financial advice from JCat.
They usually find a way to do what they want
Not that easy to do. They have higher requirements
It’s what the mayor wants then the mayor gets it. Maybe tradition
It’s called a uniform allowance! You use it to replace lost, stolen, damaged or outdated equipment. When you qualified in 2025 the range should have given you a new bottle of oc spray. And, you always had to use your own ammo to qualify with your auxiliary weapons. It’s been like this since I came on in 95. Stop being so g-d dam entitled and know what your department directives!
Well stated.
Learn to follow instructions. Those directions were posted on all the AMC messages about qualifying.
Lost stick 3 years ago? No pepper spray? Couldn't figure out how to get the proper equipment? Perhaps you should not be carrying a gun.
Nothing wrong with looking sharp in a very visible position.
You will live well in your retirement. Congratulations.
They are the Special Police.
I'd think twice about fucking with my pension. I will come looking for you, and you will not like it. I fucking promise.
Im not scared. I'm fucking mad.
Not if they can't breathe.
Then chicago has to open the books. It will never happen
And why arent we stomping the guts out of democRats for doing so?
Where are protesters to stop construction of a taxpayer soccer stadium?
All the desk dolls and stupervisors should be assigned to street duty. In a beat car, not caps office.
Civilians on CPD get laid off first.Dont worry that won’t happen.
Common on brother no pepper spray and a lost stick 3 years ago??Your the police get off your butt and get these items replaced and stop blaming people. Tell the W/C and they will replace the pepper spay and getting a new stick is easy if you just make a call and push it. We all had to have these items to qualify
Been saying that for 20 years now.
That’s why I’m retiring next year at 50!
Get use to it. Civilians are taking over the department.
So you don't have the required items for daily patrol. You should be written up each and every time you're deployed. I know you have to be some inside loser or maybe even a worthless detective because no way you're on a watch and getting away with showing up every day unprepared to be an actual first responder.
Remember when they said the Daley Clan was too powerful and they should be replaced?Well,guess people weren’t careful about what they wished for.At least everyone was on the same page to keep the city thriving.Reform is really reforming government in your own family and friends image.Ideologies based on the illusion of their delusions describe present day socialists.They talk a good game with no help from true reality.Imagine this!They do not when confronted are able to explain their own idiocy.There are b.s.ers and there are elephant sh ters.They are called intellectuals.The people that sat in classroom seats longer than most.Most were working real jobs while they got their teaching degrees.Those that can,do.Those that can no,teach.You know,it is for the children!lol
Hey dummy, they are already "laying off" police. It's called "Layoff by Attrition". They don't have to fire anyone, just don't replace the retirees.
He can't cut services in the 30th Ward anymore than he has. We get garbage pick up once a week. No neighborhood beat integrity, no potholes patched, no traffic lights repaired
Not with FOP! J Cat has his own problems!
as well as our fatass governor, dirty dirty boy
It sickens me to hear what is going on if the above is true. That’s criminal. I work hard in my profession which requires me to be there on time and leave on time. No take home car, if you don’t have a car, take a bus or train. I’m not guaranteed a pension , a check for clothing or unlimited medical time plus vacations. Chicago Police officers and their (I use the term loosely ) supervisors should be embarrassed. Dirty cars, dirty or worn out uniforms, take home cars and yet they still expect the old “police discount”. Citizens use to take care of officers because back in the day our officers worked hard and made little money. You greedy people expect everything and do nothing. Get a real job!! No pension for you!!!
Never understood why cops get take home cars either???
You are 100% correct but let’s not forget about the hundreds of officers working in administrative positions at 35th street, homan, and the academies!!! Your 06 and Tac teams are at least out there visible and to some extent have the ability to back you up should you ever need it. When was the last time you saw any HQ, Academy or any other house mouse responding to an officer needing assistance???
Sure sounds like CPD! Let’s promote more useless Detectives to solve crime that is supposedly down and cost us a fortune in OT for nothing and then promote Supervisors who again are useless and unqualified that allow their subordinates to work less than the required hours and abuse medical time
Wrong poster oi.18:24 AM. The unions are to blame. The trade unions sat on their asses so it's members could get the prevailing wages for city union workers. These union officials didn't say a word when Daley missed paying into the pension funds of the city workers. Name one union official who complained, NONE. Name one Police or Fire Department Union leader who complained when Daley skipped and or had pension payment holidays? NONE! Name one police or fire department union board members who complained? NONE Name one police or fire department pension board member who complained? NONE. How many union official family members got cushy jobs from the city for their silence? If the city's trade unions, the fire, and police unions got together, we won't be in this mess. Daley was smart, he gave city workers (trade, police and fire) crumbs and now we are suffering for it. I almost forgot, how about the democratic aldermen who bowed down to Daley's ass and allowed him to kick the can down the road? Well, the can can't go down any farther, we are screwed and now we will suffer the consequences. VOTE DEMOCRATIC! NOT
And Police still got their pension, even though it was reduced
Yeah right! Never gonna happen. But if you need to book a trip, call the 012th District and ask for the senior citizen officer. If she isn’t away on one of her side business vacations (8 months out of the year), she will hook you up with a sweet deal. Feel free to call during her CPD tour of duty as she has plenty of time to take your call and research your vacations to get you the best possible deal
Sounds like most cops , more and more OT and still fucking broke. If only I was in charge things would be different said the guy with $1000 car payment who pulls cash out of his house to redo kitchen. Shut the fuck wage slave.
Lay off the alder fks they suck especially the socialist anti police fks.
Have all the well fed city funded illegals fill in for streets and sans. That'll cover a lot of $$. If that fails, petition Venezuela for child support reimbursement.
Most new hires are DEI. Brandon will not lay off DEI people. Fact! But, if your an old M/2, COPA will perform the task for Brandon.
Wtf. Why wasn’t a sworn member there with the patronage hack.
Yes they will
That doesn’t even make a dent. In fact, it will cost more money. You’re taking all the P.O.s out of HQ (which I agree with, but not your argument that it saves money), they aren’t fired, they’re still being paid, and now in addition to paying them you have to pay civilians to take their place. Same with the units, they’re just being redistributed around the city, and they aren’t massive units to begin with. So you aren’t saving any money there either. That’s just shuffling the chairs on the titanic. If your argument is that extra manpower will reduce OT, again, that won’t even make a dent. I don’t think the suggestions themselves are bad, but it won’t save any money.
Stop spreading your MSNBC BS.
I don’t understand how moving them from 06/tact to the watch saves any significant money? You can take 20 guys working tact making $110,000/yr and move them to the watch and still pay them $110,000/yr, the bill is still the same. I don’t really care about tact or 06, those days are long behind me, your idea just doesn’t make any sense in terms of saving money. Moving people from one spot to another doesn’t change their salary. Unless you’re talking promotions or things like k9 and ET of course. But as a method of saving money, moving them from tact to the watch, would be the same as moving them from the 10 sector to the 20 sector in attempts to save 40 million dollars. Makes no sense.
City doesn't provide ammo for off duty weapons
Borrow someone else's stick and spray Einstein.
Geeez, you'll probably be a Deputy Chief in 10 years 🤣🤣🤣
Regarding the stalling of the second half of pension payments, isn't standard practice that the union put an injunction with state that prevents the city from getting any funds from the state until pension payments are settled?
Never Happened! Washington did past out pending lay Off notices but THE Eddie Burke came to the rescue! the first scheduled lay off date was 5 days before the Recruit class was suppose to get laid off. The other recruits had at least 1-3 months before they were to go. In came Eddie Burke! He represented the first class & obtained a "TRO" for ten days from a judge in Cook County! Unbelievable! That class stayed & the layoffs never happened!
That's why Eddie Burke could DO NO wrong!
Hey SCC. Is it possilble to put up a pic of Conehead looking all raggedy and confused. Like he always is. We think it would be lots of laughs. Thx much
Conehead is an "ASS Clown" nuff said
It’s of all… read the amc message that came out requiring those items…. 2d… we were never given ammo fire off duty quals… that was always your responsibility..3rd… outline ranges been closed for years… so stop your whining…
You should pay attention buddy. The stick and mace are indeed required to qualify now. If you’ve been walking around without either for the last three years you’ve got issues.
And everyone was given a new pepper spray this year…
Nope, they just have to lay off civilians and PPO‘s first
Yeah, no. Pension is just fine. Look to Detroit. They went through a municipal bankruptcy, and police pensions survived just fine.
In the State of Illinois, no municipality can declare bankruptcy unless permitted by the State. Michigan did not have that clause.
If they’re bringing in numbers then mind your own business.
I might be wrong, but I believe the FOP contract states if lay offs occur, all civilian positions get layed off first. All the positions are needed to operate the Department, so PO's will have to fill positions. Dumbest Mayor ever!!!!!!
Are you going to do the job they do? How about cut all the medical abusers, including all the bs iod claims, and then start writing up on the dbags who refuse to be in authorized uniforms.. and then all the pension draining command staff
Right the city had money for that and illegals what a bunch of political jagoffs in this city and state
Every civilian employees 1st. Then PPOs & then reverse seniority!
Damn you are dumb!
Like REALLY dumb!
It’s NOT about cutting positions on the job, its not about laying off PPO’s.
It’s about the irresponsible spending that this (and the last) Chicago Regime have done.
Yet here you are, all willing to toss a fellow cop under the bus.
Look at yourself in the mirror and BE PROUD.
Jagoff.
What you gonna do tough guy? Bust a cap and spend 20 plus years in a roach infested hell hole?
You probably never vote in any elections like the majority of coppers.
Figure it out stupid lay off ppo you desk dollies have to hit the streets
If you are a brave and honest policeman and a real american taxpayer make plans to exit Chicago and Illinois. If the game is rigged, don't play.
What you get from johnson is hate, destruction of chicago business, shakedowns from real American citizens, raising taxes, the ruin of
chicago law and order, choosing paying illegals aliens rather than helping southside residents. This ass clown has been upgraded to #1 A whole of America.
That can’t cut an already cut police agency
Get out and vote BJ out.
That would be a poor choice.
That’s bullshit. I heard the same thing in 1986 when I came on. Only way you guys lose your pension will be giving it away in exchange for a small buyout. Fuck them.
How about eliminate illegal aliens and anti-violence grifters? Some of you guys are pretty fast to cut CPD. Look at the fuckin teachers. They stick together and say Fuck You in unison. Wake up.
Best way for the department to save money is to void this fake ass consent decree that has been brought on by the Illinois attorney general, not the DOJ. All the city has to say is they can no longer afford the consent decree and demand the state pay for it just like the Feds or cancel it, problem solved with no sworn police lay offs.
I’m at 23.+ years. Offer me a buyout. Give me 2-3 more years on with my rank on the pension and I’ll Leave now.
OFFER JUICED UP BUYOUTS!!!!
You get rid of 3000 high paid PO’s you want to depolice and cut the budget?
Thats how you do it
Gotta keep the schools with 3 absentee students open and fully staffed to appease the ctu terrorists
you can't fire me, I quit working years ago and have been in the caps office ever since
Yea sounds cool until your then left holding the bag short handed. PPO’s race to calls, their proactive. All the other blow hards with time on will be extremely back logged and extra whiney
The funding levels in 1986 were at 64 percent. Keeping on hiding your head in the sand. Look at the economic numbers not your "cop" instinct.
Civilians should be assigned to every administrative position on CPD and CFD.
CFD should be assigned to 12 hour shifts. , not safe to wake up from a sound sleep and respond to a fire. Go to work and be alert, stay awake. Some might retire, replaced by younger,lower paid firefighters.
lay off the Monster drink
This is actually genius. And accurate.
Spot on.
Dont civilians on the Dept have to go before and sworn, other than PPO ?
Civilians on CPD get laid off first.Don't worry that won’t happen. All civilians will be moved under opsa or Oemc to avoid the contract clause.
Yes, but most civilians work for opsa now or OEMC. Also, the city will just ignore this clause, by the time the arbitrator rules it will be years later.
Despite his campaign claims of fulfilling this pledge, municipal records and audits show the actual number of working detectives has remained largely stagnant.Current Progress & DataThe Promise: Add 200 detectives from the existing rank-and-file to lower investigatory caseloads.The Reality: Data from the city's Office of the Inspector General indicates that the total number of police assigned to detective roles remains essentially unchanged from when he took office, hovering around 1,100.The Criticism: City alderpeople have publicly criticized the administration's actions as a "shell game," pointing out that there are only a handful more active detectives than there were at the start of his term.
Offer an early retirement package to coppers with insurance. Problem soved
It’s talked about many of times here! End Gold Braid Pensions. The people in CPD leadership aren’t worth the money they are making. Start a new pay structure for anyone above Sgt’s. No more than $5,000. Increase for the next promotion to each rank.
I’m sure you are a 50 year old, single, loser who has never had any fun in life and complains about this department to the watch before role call
Are you forgetting that JB Prickster is the state? He will get anything signed at 3 am making the law possible in Illinois!
You want to further deplete Patrol by making more Detectives who will have nothing to do because crime is down ! Our Detectives do nothing and cry about not getting overtime even though they suck up more OT than any other unit for doing what?? The beat car no has the responsibility of conducting the preliminary investigation, canvassing, finding witnesses and locating and recovering video etc etc etc while our Detectives sit at a desk and use a phone and their computers to find a way to clear a case without ever leaving their station. Their only function is to read someone their rights during an interview at which time the offender tells them to go pound sand after making them wait 4 hours so they can milk the system for overtime!
1. That civilian is retired CPD.
2. Follow the rules. Have everything required of you to qualify.
The idea is to save money here. Don’t hide behind the union and pick on civilian employees who do the same function as some of you officers for 1/3 of the pay and do it better. The point is that a police officer is paid and budgeted to do “law enforcement duties”. Since when does sitting at a desk typing for 4 hours (inputting consent decree data and other bullshit) constitute “law enforcement”? Point being that if you can afford to waste tax payer money to pay officers for administrative duties, then you don’t need those officers on the street and can and should lower the number of officers employed right?
Never say can’t when complete morons are in charge.
For the morons on here that say that putting officers on the street from administration doesn’t save money, let me enlighten you from the private sector. How would you feel about coming in to my business and speaking to my desk person (secretary etc) and then meet with me at which time I tell you my services are $100/hour. I then proceed to bill you that $100/hour every time you call and my secretary has to answer your call or take a message for me. Then I bill you $100/hour when I call you back! I’m sure you would say that secretary isn’t worth paying $100/hour for basically not doing anything related to the services I require or pay for. You would be valid in arguing that I can hire/pay someone much less to do the same job and pass the savings on to you the customer.
"Anonymous
Yeah, no. Pension is just fine. Look to Detroit. They went through a municipal bankruptcy, and police pensions survived just fine.
7/18/2026 03:08:24 PM"
Actually, I watched a documentary that came out when that happened. A copper was on who talked about how his pension was cut to $1000 per month. He said he may have to sell his house and look for one of the $1 vacant houses on his old beat to live in.
Just leave the typewriter repair section alone.
It’s just a scare tactic from these incompetent clowns. They ll instead hold off on hiring, promotions, reign in Overtime, etc.
Suppoed to but who will challenge that??? The FOP??? Yea ok, JC is too busy on another vacation spending YOUR FOP money...I could care less, Im enjoying my retirement and not giving the FOP another dime of my money.......suckers
This is called Socialism, Marxism, Communism...Do we need to go on???
Whens the last time anyone seen a CDOT truck filling potholes??? Side streets are horrible, huge pot holes everywhere, im sure they will cut street sweeping soon too except in Wrigleyville cause those self-righteous, liberals must have everything in tip top shape for the Cubs games.
Very True...get rid of medical abusers and IOD abusers...If you cant do the job then find something else.
If civilians in Cpd get let go first, then who fills their roll in the interim?
Because there are quite a bit of them and if they're gone and then a PO is brought in to replace, I can only see more problems arise due to the unknown on how to perform at that position.
Just food for thought.
Im surprised it took 3.5 years for the city of Chicago to realize how bad of a mayor BJ is. I knew before he was elected. At this rate of awareness the CTU could put up a new string puppet every four years to suit their needs. And Chicago voters will support them blindly.
Never happen. Can’t recruit replacements
Sounds like an entitled inside cry baby who has no idea of the job. We never get off duty ammo supplied. You get a uniform allowance and it spells out what is required to qualify. Now go back to your spot
Not ppo’s
FU pay me!
Yes they can
The idea is to save money here. Don’t hide behind the union and pick on civilian employees who do the same function as some of you officers for 1/3 of the pay and do it better. The point is that a police officer is paid and budgeted to do “law enforcement duties”. Since when does sitting at a desk typing for 4 hours (inputting consent decree data and other bullshit) constitute “law enforcement”? Point being that if you can afford to waste tax payer money to pay officers for administrative duties, then you don’t need those officers on the street and can and should lower the number of officers employed right?
Well then, civilians should be entirely replaced by retired police.
Brandon Johnson is what you get when only 35% of voters vote
Lay off everyone who ever received a merit promotion and all the exempts, but I am being redundant. I guarantee it will have zero effect on team department, well actually it may run better.
I agree lieutenants and above are way over paid for what they do. Us Streets officers deserve hazard pay.
Yes
Is the chair unit still fully staffed and funded?
Detroits pension was not protected by their state constitution, like ours is… can it be changed by the city? Of course, but they need to get the state to go along with it by opening up the state constitution
The Consent Decree is a worthless endeavor designed to bleed Chicagoans of taxpayer money, placate minorities, provide political cover for Socialist Democrats and to cripple effective policing in a dying city.
I agree with that! Work on a year to year contract, reduced benefits package and I bet retirees would jump all over it. I’d contribute some of my salary just to watch these coward house mice to cry and they pack up their desks
Anonymous
What about that money in the budget for the 1,000+ vacant positions in the police department?
ITS QUITE OBVIOUS we don’t need the extra 1000. As long as they can afford to have house mice, leave the staffing levels alone. Change must come from within. Until working officers get fed up and start speaking out to demand change, deal with it
Does that mean the department of gun violence is not happening?
Dont be.
Liberals still cant figure out they're insane.
Clear out sdsc room. No shot spotter no need. Especially in 25…that Sgt is useless and barely works unless her bff Sgt is working then she stays late
Stop hiring these guys back as civilians...WTF
We find a way. Boo, ain't none of us so God damn important that this department and city can't function without'chew
It ain't rocket science
The Detroit pensioners wasn't fine. Their COLAs were reduced 55%. This reduction significantly impacted long-term purchasing power; estimates suggest the loss of the full adjustment reduced the real value of a police or fire pension by an additional 17% on average over time compared to keeping the original COLA intact.
Actually, that wasn't sound financially. You paid off mortgage and car loans that were likely costing you 6% or less, instead of investing that money which would have likely made you 8% or more.
Please tell me you're not still otj.
You act like the Detroit PD pension cut was no big thing. Their COLAs were reduced by 55%, which significantly impacted long-term purchasing power; estimates suggest the loss of the full adjustment reduced the real value of a police pension by an additional 17% on average over time compared to keeping the original COLA intact.
K9 and ET are not promotions, they're assignments.
It's roll call, not "role call."
Dream on junior.
For Anonymous - 7/19/2026 08:41:23 AM
Saying you "could care less" means you still care. The saying is "couldn't care less." Check out this video. Watch it, don't watch it, I couldn't care less. See what I did there? ; )
https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw?si=X3snGYQpZR6mt7fC
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