Shots Fired; Second Guessing Begins
Was this the Tire Deflation team?
A driver in a group of speeding vehicles evaded a deflation device and headed toward police downtown early Sunday, prompting an officer to fire shots, CPD said.
Police said officers responded to a call about a large gathering in the 300-block of East Balbo Drive, near Grant Park, just after 3 a.m. There, officers saw a group of speeding vehicles and deployed a tire deflation device.
Police said one of the vehicles, a black sedan, went around the device and headed toward an officer. That officer fired shots, striking the vehicle, but no one inside of it was hit by gunfire, police said. The officer suffered a minor ankle injury and was treated and released from the hospital.
So much to unwrap here. There has been a long standing policy that banned shooting at vehicles. We think it was Hillard who implemented it, but it was written into the Orders that Officers would remove themselves from pathways of vehicles because it was argued by lib-tarded morons that Officers only stepped into the pathway of a two-ton hunk of steel, aluminum and plastic simply so that they could shoot at it.
Yes, they actually said that.
And so began the long descent into the current policy:
The result being a couple thousand percent increase in vehicles fleeing from the police and these "takeover" incidents popping up all over. So what did the Department do?
- formed a unit where Officers are required to place themselves into the potential path of on-coming vehicles to deploy Stop Sticks.
Now the fleeing driver has two choices - (A) run over the Stop Sticks or (B) swerve around them where the Officer who just deployed the sticks is standing or moving, thereby placing the Officer in the position of either violating Department Policy by shooting at someone attempting to kill them with a two-ton hunk of metal and plastic or making a split second decision to turn left, turn right or leap over....whoops, you're dead, because we all see what they did to the Officer who made a snap decision in about six-HUNDREDTHS of a second in the lil homicide shooting.
Labels: department issues, dumb ideas, shooting
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
52 Comments:
When are people going to realize that the living conditions in this city aren’t normal? It is now like living in the post-apocalyptic era of Mad Max movies.
unit is full of idiots and majority of kids who just got off status. look up the unit 216 and lmk if the most senior PO has more than 4 years otj
Impossible choice. Good thing the officer is relatively ok.
Wise old O LT from 025 3rd here. This reminds me of a piece from back when I was on another piece and had to jam up some guys because a piece they were on... Which reminds me of another piece about ...
Every time I see one of these stories I remember Willie Wilsons answer to "what about police chasing fleeing suspects" at the mayoral debates. "Chase them down like rabbits" was his answer. There's a black man sick of crime right there...
the officer can just he/she was shooting at the tires to only wound the car,,, just like the dems and libs say the officers should shoot to wound the criminal shooting at them
at least the criminals are still shooting people, this time 1600 n washtenaw (humbolt park area) with 1 dead,,,, and looks like they did not use an AR-15 or any other banned weapons,,,, just the usual handgun
The order does not say you can’t fire at a vehicle. It says you will make all attempts to get out of the way of the vehicle , if you can. If there is no other option , then
This is the problem when people who have never done this job make policy. The job of a police officer is the most unpredictable job in the world. At any given time you can go from sipping a coffee and reading a paper to being involved in a fight for your life. I would NEVER second guess any coppers decision, because I wasn’t involved in their situation. Remember… it’s how things are perceived. This copper perceived his life was in danger and he took action.
Just think of how many CPD members wake up each day and using 10 fingers and 10 toes to do the math to figure out a possible retirement day. YEARS in the future.
The slobs at COPA are drooling all over themselves dreaming up ways they can sangbag this copper.
Old School here - Open the hydrants. Not to stop a fleeing offender, but wet streets will cause vehicles to leave the area.
Any agency that says never ever fire at a moving vehicle is run by idiots. Furthermore, I'm so happy I left for a department an hour away from Chicago. Less stress, can chase, no permission needed to take mopes to county.
Well it took copa over a year to clear a cop that actually got shot and returned fire. So, this guy or gal will probably be sitting in call back for a few years and probably about a week in, if that, will regret ever getting involved in any type of proactive unit or police work. Some learn the hard way.
I had lunch with 4 Chicago residents Sunday. I asked if they saw the news on Fox32 or read CWB about the activity Sunday morning between 1 and 4AM. They said no one reads any of those. They flat didn't give a shit.
Just stop fucking doing anything, this shitty doesn't want you do anything so fuck em, teen takeover at 3am, so what , take over what, the empty street with only the little shitheads in it. 19P
Per the General Order (D22-03):
Under no circumstances will tire deflation devices be:
1. placed in a manner that subjects the deploying member to a significant risk of harm, including placing the TDD in the immediate path of a rapidly approaching vehicle with the intent to cause the vehicle to be immediately stopped.
2. Stop a Fleeing vehicle.
So to you tac bros and unit guys that are too cool for school, you’re the one that might be responsible for the chaos that happens after trying to throw the sticks at a moving car.
I thought you were dead.
Looks like we need another Office of Gun Violence Reduction here.
I have Bruce lee leaping ability. I will jump 15 feet in the air to avoid getting run over
That's ok then. It's illegal for them to shoot someone with a banned weapon.
So the guy with a hundred and fifty body guards keeps telling you that YOU ARE SAFE.
If weren’t a cop would you care? How excited would you get if these crimes were committed in the suburbs? John Q reads the crime reports, if at all , for entertainment. People are working hard to just live their lives. What do people really care about? Barking dogs, trash in the streets, abandoned cars and speeding vehicles on their streets. What happens in the ghettos doesn’t affect them. They’ll get excited with carjacking if they occur in their neighborhood, anywhere else, mere entertainment.
You mean like Otis, the town drunk? It’s probably best that you left.
Have you good folks here at Second City Cop decided on your mayoral candidate yet?
As a 5th generation Chicagoan with a Hyde Park Street name still named for one of my ancestors, I want to do whatever I can do get rid of our BLM, CTU, Antifa worst ever Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. I want our laws against shoplifting, looting, car jacking and murder enforced .
I don't like what I hear about this Lib Greek Secretary of State selling Commercial Truck Driver's licensed to low wage East Indian truck drivers that can't read highway signs in English. He seems to be pandering to BLM, Antifa, Woke Lib Hollywood etc.
I d like to back two candidates in the Dem Primary so Brandon Johnson doesn't make the run off.
So does Second City Cop, Hey Jackass, Crime in WrigleyVille and Boystown - have you decided who you will back?
Anybody have the ear of the wealthiest men in Illinois including that Griffin Guy that moved to Florida?
Lot's of people tell me I should simply throw up my hands, give up, move to Indiana or Tennessee - Tennessee women are definitely much prettier and nicer to me that these Chicago Hillary type women lawyers.
JR
i don't think these younger coppers know how to open a hydrant...or are afraid to waste water.
hey dipsh-t if you are so great why dont you bid into the unit show them how its done
What do you expect with a city and it’s police department that is run by imbeciles?
Hahaha, such a sweet kid
They better hope the vehicle is super close to of striking him or his partner. There was one in 025 a few years ago and that’s how those officers were justified.
Kc from 005 should pay attention. Stop chasing
The assholes open the hydrants themselves
some youngster from the NW side of Chicago, he isn't a politician Stranton
So happy I left in 2022 and live in the free state of Florida!
12:33pm if you 4yr wonders want to bid in to spots like these so you can wear your hat to the back and tell girls at the bar you work in a unit, knock yourselves out. Those of us with time otj know better.
Try the ICE policy. Let’s see how that would go.
This policy refresher ALWAYS makes me laugh. Well done, SCC!
The bubble people are completely oblivious ! As the saying goes "ignorance is bliss" !!
More like the video from Dre and Pac:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omfz62qu_Bc
Yet you still elect to comment on a blog about Chicago PD. You must miss it
We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!
If THEY don’t care, why should YOU?
Make your money, milk the OT, invest it.
Go home at the end of your tour, lather, rinse, repeat.
It’s just a job.
Hey, kiddo at 12:33, because I’m fuckin smart enough not to go there with your shitty hours and do dumb stuff that’s going to get me hurt, suspended or fired.
COPA may not be the enemy anymore. Take a look at their findings in some cases that normally would have resulted in a large suspension time. Suprisingly low, reasonable to low suspension with some added training.
Take. Look at BIA: 3 to 1 notifications to report to BIA for a log number with large amounts of suspension time.
BIA has to release their quarterly report due to the consent decree.
The reports due not show how much the suspension is reduced after the grievance. Their numbers show they are distributing large amounts of suspension time.
BIA is the new COPA!
Shooting is caught on POD
Officer should be good. The car unnecessarily swerved into him.
Where to we place out bet on how long it takes to demonize the spikes? Well wait, if it's copa investigating a discharge your talking atleast 3yrs? Your new 1st will be all over those spikes though.
But our idiot Captain in 017 says if we chase he has our back! He’s never really there , should I listen to him?
This^ When I said this no one listened!
Agree! The last few officer involved shootings COPA cleared the officers involved, but yet BIA opens their own investigation. Officers are no longer being stripped arbitrarily by COPA. The new COPA administrator might just be a semi-reasonable woman. Let's hope.
I could have gone to college and the pros. I knew I could jump that car, I almost did. Sincerely, Al Bundy
Unfortunately, we've all seen an officer at some time in our
careers that has stepped into the path of a fleeing vehicle, so
there's that.
Fortunately, this isn’t a game of ‘we’ve all seen something similar.’ The POD footage shows what actually happened and it’s a driver deliberately trying to run over an officer.
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