Friday, August 12, 2005

More trouble for dems

We realizes politics bores some people. It's sleazy, corrupt and you want to take a shower after you swim in it - and that's just talking about the Illinois Republican party. But it interests us, so we type about it.

Have you ever been flying down the highway, doing about 80 miles an hour, just enjoying the ride, passing cars left and right, and you accidentally throw the gear shift from 4th gear into 1st instead of 5th? No, we've never done it either, but that must be what the dems and liberal media are feeling like this morning after the new york times actually ADMITS the 9/11 commission omitted details from it's final report including the Able-Danger data and the Czech intelligence report that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague in April of 2001. Why is this going to unhinge the left even more? Because it completely undermines it's case that Iraq and Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, which means they've been wrong (or lying) for 4 years. It also means the Reno/Gorelick connection to the "chinese wall" between intelligence agencies and the FBI is much a much bigger blunder by the previous administration and may tie into Sandy Berger's efforts to purge the National Archives of certain incriminating documents.

This is huge. Really huge. This makes Watergate look like the "third rate burglary" Nixon apologists always tried to pass it off as. And it's still going on. Any legitimacy the 9/11 commission had is looking like that transmission that slipped from 4th to 1st gear at 80 MPH. This could be the democratic's "Watergate" and how they respond to it could condemn them to the political wilderness for 20 years or more.

But don't just take the new your times word on it. Read more at Captain's Quarters, National Review and Red State.

14 Comments:

Anonymous Tattoo said...

SHEESH!

Sounds like Right-Wing Nut FANTASY ISLAND to me, esteemed "Webmaster" (like we used to call "BOne" @ SCC.Net )...

Really "SCC" - I wish you well personally- but wake up and smell the coffee- the KARL ROVE / "SCOOTER" LIBBY C.I.A. TRAITOR LEAK scandal is going to R-O-C-K YOUR W-O-R-L-D in a month or two... this recent 9/11 stuff is ALL smokescreen... Write it down- or "BOOK It", Dano! The way you're carrying water for Bush-Co.... don't STRAIN anything!

The REPUBLICAN NOISE MACHINE- Operating at 150 decibels 24/7, 365 a year... drowning out the interests of all but the RICH since the 1980's... don't believe the HYPE! What depths will the Swift-Boat smear-mongers sink to next? Hillary gives birth to Welfare-abusing Space Alien Quints??? ;-) Look for in on Drudge Monday- or on Michelle Magalanga- "Self-Hating Asian" "Malkin"'s "News site later today!!! Noise, Noise, Noise- drown out legitrimate issues- distract the people from the crooks cavorting at 1600 Pennsylvannia Avenue...

Let's bash around what we know best- CPD-Chi-Town smack- apparently nobody really cares about the National Scuttlebutt except a couple/three of us anyway (unfortunately!)

8/12/2005 09:31:00 AM  
Blogger formerhousemouse said...

Swift-Boat smear-mongers?

Puhleeze! The only wound that caused Kerry any damage was the time he shot himself. What's the reward for that in Chicago?

Smear-mongers? You should be ashamed!

On another note (to SCC), I didn't see the Czech information in the NYT link, and the other blogger/pundit links had to use a lot of words to draw out the connection. Something about obfuscating and interfering with the commission's timeline.

Which is to say, I don't see the connection with the latest revelations and the Atta/Czech intelligence thing.

On the other hand, it seems that this piles on the motivation for the Sandy Burglar escapade!

Having contributed greatly to the risks, Gorelick is put on the commission investigating what went wrong. Aware of what's out there to incriminate, she gets fellow traveler Burglar to start retrieving incriminating docs.

Da dems are unbelievable. If it ain't Kerry singing I ain't no Senators son, its Tattoo yelling da Plame da Plame!

8/12/2005 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey tattoo,

How are the meds working out? Good luck with that

8/12/2005 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

What's new about this data? That Saddam actually had his people meet with alleged terrorists? Give me a break!!!!

Saddam met with and funded the Irish Republican Army (IRA), but I didn't see any Irish nationalists flying airplanes over NYC. Saddam was like your rich, bachelor uncle. The guy who always handed out treats to the kids.

And have you forgotton what Colin Powell testifed? He stated there was no direct link between Saddam and the Saudi terrorists. YOUR guy stated that, not a left winger.

And how can you compare a goof like Nixon, who spied on AMERICAN citizens in AMERICA with the 9/11 commission. This was not an invasion for freedom, it was done to impress the American public and it backfired!

8/12/2005 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Tattoo You said...

Anonymouse-

The MEDS are A-W-E-S-O-M-E quite obviously! It's not the ITCHING, but the SWELLING!

How's your Geritol suppository sitting?

DEPENDS ?

8/12/2005 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Geritol suppository is going well. I just wish you didn't insist on administering it with your tongue.

8/12/2005 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Bush boy said...

If Rove and Scooter are guilty, why is a New York Times reporter sitting in jail protecting them? You better stop drinking the Kool-Aid that the dems are serving up. This story is the biggest non-starter in history, and that's saying alot.

Speaking of Hillary, did you see where she is now on record denying her husband was ever impeached? What the F$%^ is she smoking, cause I want some. Please please please let Hillary be the nominee in 2008, cause we will wipe the floor with her and finally destroy the dems for the next 50 years!

8/12/2005 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little insight into the Department's background checks and disqualification policy.

http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2005/1stDistrict/July/Html/1031879.htm

8/12/2005 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not huge at all and I am a Republican. . .who cares that Atta met with Iraqi officials. Maybe they turned him away, who knows. The war was initiated on the premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that posed a threat to US security. To compare this to Watergate is quite a stretch.

8/12/2005 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

"Maybe they turned him away?" Doesn't it deserve investigation?

Anonymous, the story is not that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague (which, by the way, Czech official stand by to this very day). The story is that the 9/11 commission did a half assed investigation and deliberately left out information tying Iraqi Intelligence Agencies to a 9/11 conspirator. Or don't you remember that the Left has been attempting to beat Bush with the cudgel that 9/11 provided the perfect excuse for Bush to invade, but there wasn't any proof? Turns out there was proof. Lots of it. And the war wasn't predicated only on the assumption that Saddam had WMD (England, France, Germany and the clinton's told us Saddam had WMD many many times and we have in fact FOUND stockpiles of precursor chemicals and artillery shells with active agents), but also on the fact that he violated 17 UN resolutions over 11 years, he refused to comply with international directives to disarm and prove he had disarmed, and he attempted to assassinate a former US head of state.

8/12/2005 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous leftisthebest said...

Wow! SCC you say 17 UN resolutions over 11 years. How come Bush supporters, most whom I've encountered want us out of the UN, will use it to their advantage when need be? That's another story.

There are worse countries who've violated UN sanctions but we still deal with them. What about China? We don't go against them because we'd get our asses kicked. Billions and billions of Chinese against us. We can't even win in Iraq.

What about violations in Africa? Naw, we'd never go over there because we don't care about the black man.

Finally, how come no one answered my retort that Colin Powell testified there was no DIRECT evidence that Saddam was connected to 9/11? No that's because Bush deceived the American public to get us into Iraq.

8/13/2005 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Bush boy said...

We SHOULD get out of the UN. But if lefties like yourself use the excuses that the US isn't allowed to act "unilaterally" (even though we had more countries signed on that we did in the Gulf War) and we should subvert our national will/national interests to the unelected members of the UN, why can't we throw that back in your faces? You want to sign over our security to these goofs? Read anything about Serbia lately? The UN is still there 15 years later with no end in sight. No way should they get their hands on Iraq. Bush's war for Oil? Try the UN's "Peace at all costs" and "Here's a cople million for Kofi Jr and ELF Total Fina."

And you truly are ignorant of world affairs if you are worried about China. Talk to any Korean War vets. The chinese died by the hundreds of thousands as the Army and Marines pushed them all the way back to the 38th parallel after they were resupplied (McArthur's blunders not withstanding). They can't even project power outside their territorial waters. China isn't even going to be China in 30 years.

Africa? First you lefties claim we have to listen to the UN (which won't even call Dafur, Sudan a genocide), then you blame America when we don't UNILATERALLY go into Africa and straighten it out? Who the fuck is your chiropracter? Cause my back has been bugging me and your back must be limber as a 14 year old gymnast the way you bend every which way. Make up your mind..

Colin Powell, though a brilliant general in 1991, was a mouthpiece for a transparently liberal organ of the US government that is more concerned with who is on whose list for cocktail partys than advancing the president's agenda. Read your own quote: "no direct evidence." So there WAS circumstantial evidence? Are you admitting that the Able Danger data is true? On behalf of the Right Wing, I thank you! Now can we reconvene the 9/11 commission and explore the circumstantial links instead of just omitting it? It just might PROVE the left has been wrong/lying for 4 years.

Just because a jury said there was no "direct" evidence that OJ killed Ron and Nicole doesn't mean it didn't happen.

8/13/2005 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

Post a link Shady. Too damn big for a comments section loke this

8/13/2005 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Link- from The Mod Squad said...

Better LATE than never...! ;-) re: "bias" on the panel...

Wikipedia's 9/11 Commission content

...Claims of bias within the commission...

Some members of victims' families have claimed that the commission has numerous conflicts of interest. 9/11 CitizensWatch, in particular, called for the resignation of Philip D. Zelikow, the executive staff director. Zelikow is a Bush-appointee who served on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. He spent three years on the President George H. W. Bush's National Security Council. Zelikow worked closely with Bush NSC advisor Condoleezza Rice and even co-wrote a book with her. Some worry that Zelikow may be using his power to deflect blame from himself and to protect Rice.

In addition, many members had ties which could be viewed as conflicts of interest.

Thomas Kean has ties to the National Endowment for Democracy, a long-time conduit of CIA covert operations abroad. Kean also has a history of investments that link him to Saudi investors who have financially supported both George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden in the past. One example is his former business connections to Khalid bin Mahfouz, an alleged terrorist financier.

Fred F. Fielding has done legal work for two of Bush's leading "Pioneer" fund-raisers. Fielding also works for a law firm lobbying for Spirit Airlines and United Airlines.

Slade Gorton has close ties to Boeing, which built all the planes destroyed on 9/11, and his law firm represents several major airlines, including Delta Air Lines.

James Thompson is the head of a law firm that lobbies for American Airlines, and he has previously represented United Airlines.

Richard Ben-Veniste has represented Democratic National Chairman Terry McAuliffe, and continues to represent Boeing and United Airlines.

Max Cleland, former US senator, has received $300,000 from the airline industry. He has since resigned from the commission.

Lee Hamilton sits on many advisory boards, including those to the CIA, the president's Homeland Security Advisory Council, and the US Army.

Tim Roemer represents Boeing and Lockheed Martin.

Jamie Gorelick's firm has agreed to represent Prince Mohammed al Faisal in the suit by the 9/11 families. The families contend that al Faisal has legal responsibility for the 9/11 attacks. According to Attorney General John Ashcroft in his testimony before the commission, Gorelick wrote a procedural memo that would have prevented communication between various government agencies (the wall memo[2]).

Ashcroft later recanted this claim when it was pointed out that 'the wall' predated Gorelick's tenure by many years and his own Justice department had reaffirmed and strengthened the positions taken in her memo.

The commission's defenders claim that these do not represent significant conflicts of interest, and that the commission can be expected to maintain its neutrality... (snip!)

8/19/2005 11:53:00 PM  

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