A Crazy Idea that Just Might Work
So we were sitting around, shooting the breeze over a few beers, and of course, bitching about the job as coppers are wont to do. We reminisced about bosses we knew, bosses we liked, bosses we hated. We speculated on consolidating certain districts, eliminating certain jobs, disbanding certain units, all to alleviate the district manpower shortages, and suddenly, it came to us. A brilliant idea. A wonderfully evil, grinchy idea (apologies to Dr. Seuss.)
Disband the detective division.
It's brilliant on SO MANY levels. Firstly, you eliminate a whole bunch of higher paid positions - not just the D-2A spots, but the sergeants, lieutenants and exempts in the D units. The mayor would HAVE to love that. Second, the overtime question goes away. Again, the mayor would give us medals for the money we saved. Third, no more BS tests. The department is always looking to avoid lawsuits based on unfair test practices and "sooper-sekret" study groups being run out of 35th Street on the taxpayers dime. Fourth, you dump a whole bunch of experienced guys back in the districts to show all the new guys how to protect crime scenes, gather up witnesses, crap that always gets screwed up before the dicks even make it there.
And finally, the clearance rate would probably go up, which would make everyone happy. If you really need to keep the dicks around, let Farrell run the show and he gets to hand pick 200 guys to investigate stuff. The clearance rate would still go up. Now excuse us while we go sober up. The Blackhawks lost to St. Louis 4-1 and the White Sox lost 3-2. There is no joy in Mudville tonight
Disband the detective division.
It's brilliant on SO MANY levels. Firstly, you eliminate a whole bunch of higher paid positions - not just the D-2A spots, but the sergeants, lieutenants and exempts in the D units. The mayor would HAVE to love that. Second, the overtime question goes away. Again, the mayor would give us medals for the money we saved. Third, no more BS tests. The department is always looking to avoid lawsuits based on unfair test practices and "sooper-sekret" study groups being run out of 35th Street on the taxpayers dime. Fourth, you dump a whole bunch of experienced guys back in the districts to show all the new guys how to protect crime scenes, gather up witnesses, crap that always gets screwed up before the dicks even make it there.
And finally, the clearance rate would probably go up, which would make everyone happy. If you really need to keep the dicks around, let Farrell run the show and he gets to hand pick 200 guys to investigate stuff. The clearance rate would still go up. Now excuse us while we go sober up. The Blackhawks lost to St. Louis 4-1 and the White Sox lost 3-2. There is no joy in Mudville tonight
posted by SCC at 10:15 PM
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We want a REAL Chief of Detectives--JOHN FARRELL!
John Farrell's maternal great, great grandmother was an octoroon with the maiden name of Gonzalez. Don't let that Irish surname fool you. Brotha Farrell for Chief of Dicks. "Affirmative action" at its best.
Hey SCC:
Great idea but I am finally high on the list...take it easy
lET ME SEE IF i GET THIS sTRAiGHT ... ThE dEt. dIv HAS A cLEARaNcE RaTE OF JUSSt UNdER 5O%.
i GOt IT, ElIMINaTE 50% oF THe d UnIT. oBVIoUsly 50% OF THeM AIn't doing a thIng. How's iT gO, "U ain'T gOt noThiNG KiD"
Quote: "lET ME SEE IF i GET THIS sTRAiGHT ... ThE dEt. dIv HAS A cLEARaNcE RaTE OF JUSSt UNdER 5O%.
i GOt IT, ElIMINaTE 50% oF THe d UnIT. oBVIoUsly 50% OF THeM AIn't doing a thIng. How's iT gO, "U ain'T gOt noThiNG KiD""
How would YOU solve that burglary with NO witnesses, NO Prints, NO serial numbers of properties, and NO leads?
Tell me what you would do with that case ace?
What would YOU do to solve it, I am eagerly waiting for your answer!
LOL. surely you are not trying to lie to all of us and pretend that you have actually gone out on all of your burglary handouts and checked for witnesses.I mean gone out, not phoned someone. I mean gone out, not automatically suspended the case because there was no phone. How many cases are killed in CMO because they appear unsolveable? How many times have the victims been advised of the warrant process when there is a named offender in a misdemeanor case because the detective is in no way going to go out and make that arrest to clear that case, it's only a misdemeanor and the detective is allowed to tell the victim to go do the job himself, get a warrant. PLEASE, such service.
I think his point is that those cases can't be cleared. Every det. gets handouts that are zeros. Saying 50% of the det.'s are doing nothing is a childish response to unclearable cases. Maybe beat cars shouldn't be taking reports where an 8 year old punches a 7 year old. I get one of those a week. Why didn't the "preliminary investigator" areest the 8 year old at the scene. What the fuck am I supposed to do with that. There's plenty of CYA going on all over the place.
A question I would like to see answered.....
Why is it that some members of patrol and other units do not like the detective division. If you list your reasons I will answer them or kill the rumors you heard about the division.
List on........
Unqualified clout leadership.
Lt. J. Farrell for Chief of Detectives.
I don't think it's fair to blame the Detective division. I see the CYA game going on all over the department - every GOCR ends up with the dicks but maybe we in patrol shouldn't be taking some of the non-sense, ridiculous reports that OEMC sends our way. But we do because the momma of the 8 year old who got punched in the arm by the other 8 year old is going to call OPS to get a # on the P.O. for refusal of service. It is easier to scratch out a 0460 and make momma happy with some "paper" than it is to argue with her about how far up her a$$ her head is. We'd be doing a to-from on it anyway if it goes to OPS so why not give her the report?
And so it goes ... I've seen the detectives sitting there with 25 open cases in their basket and I know that the 'victims' aren't going to get the full-scope of the detectives' resources. And why should they? Half of these reports are b*llsh*t and the dicks know it. To SCC's point, NYPD has a higher crime clearance rate because each precinct has their own detective division and, it would seem, that that setup allows more communication between dicks and patrol. Thanks to SCC for bringing up the issue & "thinking outside the box" - the question deserves, at least, some discussion.
I don't see it as "thinking outside the box" as much as it is sour grapes coming from the same mentality that thinks we should do away with all tact, gang, SOS, narcotics, vice, etc..., and that every person who has ever been promoted was ONLY promoted because they know "someone". Are there injustices on the Department? Hell yes. But always crying about "the wroking police" getting screwed is really played out. I swear, some of you think that you are the ONLY one that deserve your pay check, or know your job.
The Det's like being in their ivory towers in the areas. They don't want to talk to some snot-nosed PO
Mama better get her case report!
A lot of the problem is due to micromanagment. Allegedly an incident is not a crime until a policeman says its a crime. However, since Momma knows best, and OPS knows better, if you don't make the report, you're looking at some suspension time no matter how much nonsense the report is. Yes its CYA but why should I lose money because some bimbo wants to start trouble with her neighboring bimbo and is using the Poolice to pimp for her. The whole system is fxxked. . . Go figure.
Like every other unit in the department there are smart, hardworkers in the D unit.
Like every other unit in the department there are some real
dog-asses in the D unit.
As for the "ivory tower" in the areas, the dicks are working in the environment which was set up by the department. They, along with all other police get away with what the bosses allow them/us to get away with.
Remember, you win only if you get home alive and well. THe rest is B.S.
Quote: LOL. surely you are not trying to lie to all of us and pretend that you have actually gone out on all of your burglary handouts and checked for witnesses.I mean gone out, not phoned someone. I mean gone out, not automatically suspended the case because there was no phone. How many cases are killed in CMO because they appear unsolveable? How many times have the victims been advised of the warrant process when there is a named offender in a misdemeanor case because the detective is in no way going to go out and make that arrest to clear that case, it's only a misdemeanor and the detective is allowed to tell the victim to go do the job himself, get a warrant. PLEASE, such service."
1. You must be one of the "toured the area to no avail" Police.
2. Burglary Cases are NOT killed in CMO, they are assigned.
3. Checking for witnesses for every one of your 70+ Burglaries a Period along with your field processes is like you actually conducting a thorough preliminary investigation instead of just "giving another report."
4. Apparently you have never read a victim information notice which tells the citizens that they will not be contacted routinely by a detective for every case.
5. You didn't read the order which specifies that the Detective Division is responsible for follow-up investigation of felony offenses and "SELECTED" Misdemeanor Cases! Just because there is a named offender does not mean that a Detective is going to be assigned to go lock up that person for a neighborly dispute.
That's what 911 is for. Does that case REALLY need Follow-up Investigation or just an arrest. If just an arrest is needed. Go to it slick. Are you not the Police?
Ouch!!!
To 4:14 who said.....
"The Det's like being in their ivory towers in the areas. They don't want to talk to some snot-nosed PO"
Why do you think detectives don't want to talk to "some snot nosed PO"?
Cause they might get snot on their Gucci shirt and shoes.
Like Kojac said "Who Loves ya Baby", well it ain't the Dicks.
Maybe it would be better if the Dicks were taken from the Area and assigned to a District. The PO's would know who to refer cases to...the Dick's would have a better handle on the usual suspects and they would not seem to be insulated from the PO's...what do you think....??
Detectives in the district is a great idea. District detectives who are answerable to a district commander would be more accountable. There would be a natural incentive to clear crimes, and assist district personnel. There are so many ideas where we start with prototype districts. CAPS started in just a few districts to see if it would work. Why not try out a few districts where the detectives actually are assigned to the district, and work with the tactical teams, and address roll calls on recent crimes. I think their imput could assist police officers in the quality of their preliminary investigations.
Good idea sending dicks to the districts. Right now I have a hard enough time finding a supervisor who understands my job. I can only imagine what a wonderful cluster-fuck that would be. Dicks in the district would be the ultimate CYA tool for bosses. We'd be the ultimate anti-DOC tool. Whatever the cdr got beat up about that day is what he'd have the dicks working on that night. You must be working in a different department if you think that it would be even remotely legit. Imagine Cdr X bring Det. Trixie back to the district after he had her made. I'm sure she'd be doing a lot of police work. Don't forget the guys from the District basketball team. Here's your reward for winning the city championship. YOu think I work in ivory tower, where the fuck do you work?
And in conclusion, do you really think I would give a fuck about being accountable to a district cdr? It doesn't seem to improve your work.
Everyone defended filling out a report for baby's mama because they were scared of OPS. But no answered why they don't go ahead and lock up the other 8 year old offender. I'm still waiting for an answer, other than you piss yourself at the thought of writing a to-from to OPS.
5:34:46
so a citizen who makes a report does his own follow up if his case is not "selected"? of course he does, otherwise the det. might not be able to get all the shopping/chores done. or go to ball games or even movies on company time. i originally thought only mass transit guys went to the show on company time, mc clurg court theater, but then i witnessed a det. coming out of a suburban theater with a girl friend and get into an "m" plate car, and he was actually on overtime at the time. the amount of time wasted/not spent doing police work in the detective division is actually hard to comprehend. and how could following up on a case be a waste of time as long as you get paid, certainly there is more bang for the buck with you doing some kind of follow up versus reading the newspaper, surfing the net, picking up the kids from school, taking them to their games, getting the dry cleaning,etc. all on company time while a bunch of guys are humping beat cars, call adter call after call.
Here is an example of the kind of petty pricks that respond in the comments section; a poster at 5:34 pm cites general orders and special orders in how cases are handled. Then a poster at 9:52 am does not want to talk about or learn from the orders related in the previous post.
That poster would rather just talk shit, instead of talking about the issue at hand.
Damn 09:52:09 AM
That was you following me when I was doing every thing you said in your post? Sheeeeesh.
This job is filled with people who decide who the real police are. Of course they are the model for the real police. Usually they are the Mendoza line, but that never stopped the grizzled Sonny Crockett glare. "I've been to the edge man, I don't know who I am anymore."
Don't forget boys and girls... Dicks were once in patrol and know that patrol does its fair share of shopping,movies(two footmen in 021st district come to mind)picking up Dry Cleaning, and those Lunches, (how do you manage to talk with your mouth full to request lunch?) sleeping...in the hole 3 to 7....and in general anything but "hump" all night...its sort of like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it?Call after call...poor thing...and the Detectives get to try and make sense of your reports...report after report after report...Oh and I'm sure you toured the area with negative results...
Yes it's true that we were part of patrol sometime in our career but remember there are dicks who haven't forgot where they came from and respect the patrol officers and what they do. And you will know who those dicks are when you work a case with them.
But it's also true with some dicks their head get inflated and they seem to forget they were once out in the streets with their 30 minute lunches, 2 personals and going from call to call and staying down when when necessary to catch your breath. So for those types of detectives I cannot answer for them.
But patrol personnel need to understand they do not see or are aware of other things that has to be done after they make out that case report, sure you could guess and possibly be right but until you see for yourselves you can only assume what we dicks do.
Here is a hint...When you know for sure that the report you are writing is pure B.S., that report is still B.S. when the dick gets it.
We were patrolmen in the past and know P.O.s got to do a report when momma is demanding a report. Just to keep her mouth shut, because if you didnt, she would call the sergeant and you will do it later anyway.
The reports that have good leads will be followed up on and the nonsense is sent into cyberspace (suspended).
Hey Listen! 5:57 am post:
Sorry I just got back on line. Regarding your question as to how I would handle that Burglary I would call the victim ,possibly go out to the scene (if it s truely a real bonafide burglary) and maybe do a CANVASS. And if I got nothing then I'd move the X. But I would utilize all avenues of approach, but sinece you are posting a 5:57 AM I guess you r sitting on your ass in the Area doing nothing but reading and posting to this site. You made my point you merit clown , u couldn't find your ass w/ both hands. I would start by dumping your worhtless ass into SVU.
If there is a God you will make dick and go straight to burglaries. I'd love to see you handling your 5 handouts a day from 011 like that. I'm sure your canvass would be as effective as the ones you do at shootings. In 2 & 1/2 years I've seen zero, bingo, big fat doughnut hole witnesses developed off patrol canvass sheets. Better work on those skills. I'll be remembering you as "know-nothing-asshole" in mu prayers.
Quote: "Hey Listen! 5:57 am post:
Sorry I just got back on line. Regarding your question as to how I would handle that Burglary I would call the victim ,possibly go out to the scene (if it s truely a real bonafide burglary) and maybe do a CANVASS. And if I got nothing then I'd move the X. But I would utilize all avenues of approach, but sinece you are posting a 5:57 AM I guess you r sitting on your ass in the Area doing nothing but reading and posting to this site. You made my point you merit clown , u couldn't find your ass w/ both hands. I would start by dumping your worhtless ass into SVU."
Nope, Ace. I guess "touring the area to no avail" hasn't gotten you much. If YOU can't catch 'em two minutes after the crime is committed and they are still in the area, what am I supposed to do with it three weeks later after your Sergeant gets around to signing your report with no witnesses identified (partially because your preliminary investigation was poor), no evidence (because you smoked one too many cigarettes and messed up the crime scene or touched everything), or failed to document all property taken at the burglary because you didn't want to write too much on that report or wait for serial numbers. You probably made the good citizen lose credibility with their insurer because you didn't think that noting on the case report that they lost an air compressor, lawn mower, arc welder and the like in their garage burglary because it would be too much to write.
The insurance company thinks that they would have noticed those items missing at the time of the original report because they are so large. So go give people service and document their losses.
I don't post from work because I have too much canvassing to do you dimwitted know-it-all.
I can also tell your super cop know-it-all attitude because you talk about "dumping" to SVU. I guess that assignment would be too good for an ace like you.
I love when super cops like yourself talk about dumping to SVU it only shows me what a tool you truly are.
Nope, not meritorious. That's probably your explanation for anyone who gets promoted before you. You are the only intelligent one out there, am I right Ace?
It "aint" like it is on TV where you get handed your one case and you run with it. Its 5 a day and you still have to process arrests in the Districts. You go out and canvass on your 30 cases a week.
When all of your fruitful canvasses come up nil what will you do next ace to get that clearance rate over 50%.
Blow me some more hot air hotshot!
Bravo!
All the bitching and moaning stops when these little boys plug dukie. Then we're your best friends.
Shut the fuck up. Listen to the older guys on the watch, and go do some police work. When that trickle of piss starts running down your legs, we'll be there to mop it up.
Kudos to Wiberg's SOS team. Great shoot the other day. All of you handled it like men.
FARREL for king.
FARRELL -- sorry! my hands were occupied with my other 50 bullshit handouts. Another 8 year old kicked his play cousin.
Some of you bitch when you have to make 5 Preliminary Investigations, or to some of you just reports a day. Imagine getting 5 a day not to just report and run but to actually follow-up on.
Do some of you actually think about what a monumental task that is?
Some sit there and would have the audacity to complain about having to do 5 reports in one day and in the same breath call the Detective that gets those same 5 reports a dog ass because the case is suspended for one of any of a multitude of reasons.
I would like to see you be able to solve everyone of those 5 cases a day by yourself with no witnesses, no leads, and no evidence or prints not suitable for comparison or AFIS!
Like someone said, if you cant find witnesses 2 minutes after it occurred; do you expect a Detective to get them 3 weeks later?
With all that canvassing done in the patrol canvass sheets, I haven't seen any great leads yet other than vague descriptions or statements of hearing noise at 1000 hours.
Yo fucking DICKS kill me. I ain't no snot nosed recruit, don't fucking bullshitt me you do nothing "ain't got nothing kid" kid but htne a day or 2 later you develop new evidence to lock up the asshole w/o nay mention of the P.O.'s name. I have been aroound here longer than you to know your full of shit. I know your type, You were a do nothing dog pushing a beat car, passed a test (Maybe,maybe not ) and now your in the big leagues telling all the other coppers out there what they got. Just shut the fuck up and do your hand outs, move the fucking X , and milk the fuck outta @6th St. Oh yea, you were never there before u made DICK but you were always a cocksucker.
Listen up 6:58:52 pm Dog Ass!! Yea you don't post from work my ass you dumb fuck. You make the point sooo CLEARLY. You are doing Burglaries from 011, that's my point YOU AIN'T DOING NO SHOOTINGS, HOMICIDES, because your are a heartbeat away from getting dumped to SVU. Whatta ya got kid? 6 yrs on da job and your doing garage burglary handouts from Fillmore? You are one stupid son of a bitch. My post was that you should investigate all available avenues (HINT HINT : I said for legit, bonafide burglaries). I wouldn't blame any fucking Dic(head) for shit canning a bullshit Fillmore garage burglary. However I did say that if it is legit ( hey maybe no neighbors were home when the PO took the report) hey, isn't that why Dicks do a follow up? The point is this (other than on your fucking pin head fuck ball) there are good Det's and dog det's just like good PO's and dog ass PO's. Which one are You?
Answer: woof woof woof
QUOTE: "Listen up 6:58:52 pm Dog Ass!! Yea you don't post from work my ass you dumb fuck. You make the point sooo CLEARLY. You are doing Burglaries from 011, that's my point YOU AIN'T DOING NO SHOOTINGS, HOMICIDES, because your are a heartbeat away from getting dumped to SVU. Whatta ya got kid? 6 yrs on da job and your doing garage burglary handouts from Fillmore? You are one stupid son of a bitch. My post was that you should investigate all available avenues (HINT HINT : I said for legit, bonafide burglaries). I wouldn't blame any fucking Dic(head) for shit canning a bullshit Fillmore garage burglary. However I did say that if it is legit ( hey maybe no neighbors were home when the PO took the report) hey, isn't that why Dicks do a follow up? The point is this (other than on your fucking pin head fuck ball) there are good Det's and dog det's just like good PO's and dog ass PO's. Which one are You?"
Like I said Ace, you are supercop. You would never work in RBT or SVU because you're too good of a cop to ever grace the likes of SVU or RBT.
You would make that phone call to ensure that you would get in HGS so that YOU would have time to work your cases so that all of YOUR investigative talent would not go to waste.
What's a legit burglary ACE? You tell me? Apparently you would sit in YOUR ivory tower to make the determination of WHO is a legitimate burglary victim and who is not. Apparently you are a victim of your own eliteness and just are too stupid to realize it.
I find it funny that you assume no detectives work any "legit" burglary cases, but if you were the big city detective and you only had that chance and could pass a test, you would be the best detective there ever was. Yes you would be.
Your supercop elite attitude about RBT and SVU shows me you actually ARE a know-it-all.
Next you will tell me that SVU does nothing but wait for you to arrest the 8 year old for battering his 7 year old cousin. If SVU is such a do nothing unit, that I would assume you believe based upon your use of the word "dumped",why aren't all the dog asses lined up to go there?
Tell you what slick, maybe on the next Detective's test after all of your years of experience you can actually study and retain the material and score high enough to get appointed to Detective. But from what I read, you know-it-all already and would score highly on the investigative logic test. If not, just get made meritoriously because with all of your knowledge you just might not be a good test taker.
We'll make sure YOU get assigned to RBT and watch that clearance rate soar, superstar.
Once again blow me some more hot air hot shot.
I've never heard anyone call the 11th District "Harrison Street". Why don't they just rename it "Fillmore" officially?
You have rage issues. God help your penis.
"Hey fuck ball 6:02:31 post, what r u doing getting ready to get off from a tough shift in Area 4 handling garage burglaries? You are a fucking looser. Thank god if and when I pop some fucking savage they won't send your lame ass out cause you'll be blowing off those "oh so hard to handle" garage burglaries. A looser like you belongs right where you are doing bullshit w/ bullshit. Listen up fuck face, if you were really the real deal, they would give you a shot at doing homicides, shootings etc... but(head) i think your pace is where you are at, garage burglaries. What is a legit Burglary, I shouldn't have to tell you, your a dick(head) remember. Oh I forgot, the only part of you that resembles any thing close to being a Det. is the wording on your star. I know you are Meritorious all the way. Here's a tip you stupid fuck 773.869.3020 is callled when you get a F E L O N Y, yea I know your scratching your head."
Here is a hint, Midnight Detectives DO NOT get handouts except cases that they will be clearing. I would have assumed that a know-it-all like yourself would know that. After all you know all about my job and I nothing of yours.
You see in all of your rage, you do not see my point. My point is not about the job its the NUMBER of jobs one handles.
I never claimed to be the real deal, the only one who has airs of being the real deal is YOU. YOU demean RBT and SVU and apparently believe that the only working Detectives are in HGS.
I have news for you slick, there actually are workers in RBT and SVU and the rate is higher than 50%.
Like I said, take that valium, relax, study hard and pass the test.
The city really needs an Ace like you to work RBT or SVU and that clearance rate will SOAR under your guidance.
Do you actually think that YOU are the only competent person out there?
So come aboard, take that test, and become that big city detective that you always dreamed about. Just remember though, when you come, you will be another supercop who comes to the Detective Division and says, "Wow, this job is nothing like I thought it was."
You see, many think the Detective Division is like working a Beat Car only you get NO JOBS and are given a big case to run with.
You have NO realistic concept on the Detective Job at all. I KNOW how your job works, you only THINK you know how mine works. I have utmost respect for the job that you do, you however, seem to have contempt for the work of most of the Detectives on this job.
I have news for you, There are workers in Patrol and there are workers in the Detective Division.
I am through going tit for tat with you because I think its counter productive.
Good luck, I hope you make Detective. When you do your rotation through SVU and RBT, do me a favor think about me (the meritorious garage burglary Detective in Area 4 who can't solve anything), show the Detectives that are giving you tips and clues how the job is done so that you can leave your mark on SVU and RBT before you go to HGS.
The department will thank you because with all of your expertise, these experienced Detectives will learn a whole lot from you and the Clearance rate will soar.
Good Luck Slick, God Speed Ahead!
I have read all the threads and comments. And for the most part I hear a lot of bickering and complaining going on. Don't you people think we have enough elements out there that are pitted against us. For example the O.P.S. number welding offender, the never satisfied citizen, and the forever blaming the police media. Stop it please. The truth be told, in every occupation, one will encounter an individual who doesn't hold his or her job and its responsibilities in high regard thus become the infamous "DOG". I think we have to stick together because unlike other occupations out there, we depend on each other with our very lives "literally". We are what ensures that the other gets home to their loved ones. Being a patrol officer you are truly a grunt in the very trenches of the urban war. And as a detective, you are the ones we depend on when shit goes left in those trenches. The real police need the real detectives, and the real bosses. Fuck the dogs! As real police we still cover their asses too. So let's just remember we are on the same team. MEN IN BLUE ooooohhhhrrraaahhhhhh
HEY DUMB FUCK , YEA YOU THE ONE WORKING ON GARAGE BURGLARIERS FROM FILLMORE. SO YOU DON'T GET HANDOUTS ON 1ST WATCH, NO WONDER YOUR ALWAYS POSTING ON THIS SITE WHEN YOUR SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING THOSE "OH SO HARD GARAGE BURGLARIES". HEY STUPID, YEA YOU, PULL ON YOUR EARS REAL HARD , WHEN YOU HEAR THE POP OPEN YOUR EYES, THAT'S RIGHT YOU JUST PULLED YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. NOW GO FIND THAT STOLEN BIKE YOU USELESS FUCKWAD.
Dude, what the fuck is your problem?
Let it go already!!
Looks like the self-appointed real police bombed the det. test.
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