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posted by SCC at 10:00 PM
29 Comments:
Take a look at Tierney's group. You couldn't find a bigger group of assholes except in the city council. Good work Boock. Madigan was going stop the pension legislation because of you. That's right these guys went down on their own and demanded meetings with the members of the Senate. Madigan reached out and asked why Jack Boock wanted explain pension legislation to him. See Boock and the other goofs told everyone down state that they represented the CPD officers and indicated that they were the lobbists. 2 years of hard work and negotiations were almost lost by Boock, Harej and the rest of these assholes. This is a group of cowards and liars who have been hated and chased out of each unit they have been in.
Let's set the record straight. The FOP did NOT give Steve Robbins $5000.00 outright. He can receive up to $5000.00 in reimbursements for out-of-pocket expenses related to his campaign. Steve Robbins, along with myself, Mike Lazzaro, Bill Dougherty, and Carlos Saladino have attended together almost every Pension Board meeting for the last two years. We have directly addressed the Board and the Trustees individually. We became very fluent in the Board's procedures and openly questioned their actions or inactions regarding Police Officers. Because of our distaste at the way some applicants are treated by the Board at times, along with some decisions made that we felt were detrimental to fellow Officers and the Fund as a whole, it was decided to put together a slate whose goal would be to correct the perceived injustices we have observed. One person CANNOT do this alone. This has been proven time and again. Therefore Steve Robbins, Mike Lazzaro, and Ken Hauser were chosen for this task, with the full recommendation of two committees that work closely with the Pension Board, the Disability and Pension (of which I am a member and also am a full dues paying member of F.O.P.)committees. The Leuitenant that was chosen by us was not endorsed by his Association and chose not to run against the one they picked, who, by the way, comes highly regarded. I have never seen either of the two persons opposing Officer Robbins ever attend a Board meeting, which is necessary to grasp the full knowledge of the workings of the Pension Board. To make the necessary changes to not only help improve the Fund but also the service to our Officers, a competent, cohesive slate is absolutely necessary to accomplish this goal. Steve Robbins is definitely qualified and very knowledgable of the duties and operations of the Board that it makes him an obvious choice. If Officers attended these meetings they would see how important it is to have this slate, as the F.O.P. has. The Board has never seen a united front such as this against them and the very exposure of this to them has already brought some changes in how their business is conducted. Our presence alone has made an impact. If Officers really are interested in change, they all should attend the monthly meetings, which are held every 4th Thursday of the month at 9:00 a.m. A larger presence would definitely send a stronger message
"along with some decisions made that we felt were detrimental to fellow Officers and the Fund as a whole, "
Um excuse me, but does that include the 23 million dollars that steve robbins voted to give back to the city? Was that decision good for the pension fund? Please explain that choice!
Everybody who's crying about forgiving the $23 million payment the City owed to the pension should think about a few things before going ballistic. From the personal side, it's a hot-button issue that's got a bunch of people worked up into a frenzy, which is understandable. From an economic viewpoint it's a non-issue.
The fund is valued at 3.6 billion dollars. The $23 million is only about 6% of the fund's value...Not statistically important. It's not even the interest income for a year.
But what did we get in exchange for the $23 million forgiveness? Now we're maxed out at 29 years of service instead of 32 years. At first glance, this means everybody can retire 3 years sooner. What's three years of your life worth?
But it's even better than that. Take another look at it. Under the old salary schedule, top salary was at 30 years. Since the pension is based on the average of your best 4 years out of the last 10, that meant the we actually had to work to 34 years and 1 day to get the max. pension. (Last step raise kicked in at 30 year anniversary. 30 years + 4 years at highest salary = 34 years.)
With the salary schedule now topping out at the 25 year step, we can now leave on 29 years + a day at the max. pension. 5 years is a big difference, especially when you're in your 50's. Now people can leave while they still have their health and are young enough to enjoy themselves and spend time with their families or do whatever they want.
Could the deal have been better? Absolutely. 80% pension and retiree health care costs must be the top priority.
But before you fire up that ulcer again, ask yourself what price tag would you put on the quality of life for you, your family and your partner.
When you gave back the 23 million you let the city weasel out of their promise to give us 80%.
right up to the point donahue "the great negotiator" kissed daley's ass and took the 75% at 29 and a day donahue was telling everyone 80% was a lock. For those of you who traveled to Springfield to lobby for the 80% not one contacted lawmaker said he would not support the 80%. The state police got 80% at 26+ yrs. The civilians that work for this city got 80%. The compromise with Daley could have been 75%/29 and a day instead of the 75% at 32 and a day we already had deal done. Why throw in the 23.8 million. Donahue Kiss Ass that's why!Ask Hauser or Dineen the reps on the pension board said NO to the deal!! No need to give Daley more! Robbins could not even win his Trustee spot against all the other so called " cowards"! You want checks and balances give Donahue control of the pension fund rep and watch the new kiss ass deals! The pension fund is going to be the next hot button issue in the financial deals in this city! Keep it out of the hands of Donahue!!
Sgt Shemash:
Why don't you keep your nose out of FOP business and lend your "expertise" to the PBPA. This support of "the Board" couldn't be because your wife is part of the "in group". Sal was also against the in group until his wife got a job at the gift shop!
Robbins sent mail to my house. I am not voting for him. Hey Robbins if you are reading this Quit F*&%$% sending me mail. You lost my vote because of it.
His wife is a whole different discussion. I wouldn't go there.
take a look at the FOP newsletter
Donahue would not allow the newsletter to "inform" the membrship of who was running for office in our own union. Donahue's position is that the newsletter is not for political purposes. Donahue "never told the truth in his life" puts Robbins all over the newsletter along with Bill, Bill Bil Douuug loyal side kick. Tierney and Jans dues are being used to support Robbins!! Donahue's group if you can believe it was worst that the old group! Donahue is such a "reformer" as long as the golf dates, company car and 150,000.00 salaery go along with it!!
Hey Sgt Shemash do you You really believe that the only reason there was movement on our pension time was because we GAVE the city back 24 mil. You are a sgt aren't you. I hope your not on the negotiating team for your group. Daley threw it out to the Master Negotiator Donahue and he bit hook line and sinker but maybe the future is bright for Mark he could end up like Nolan working for the Sheriff as some paper pusher with rank at 70 years old..........
Where in Shemash’s post did he mention 24 mil? Jeez, the guy gave you the reason why the FOP endorsed Robbin’s, read the post already.
You read Shemash he states: "To make the necessary changes to not only help improve the fund..." Giving 24 mil back to the city is an IMPROVEMENT TO THE FUND!! apparently Shemash along with Robbins approved of the giveback but interestingly Hauser who shemash links himself to (not Dineen) was AGAINST the giveback. Hopefully a fully informed voter for this spot will realize what is going on!!!
How the hell can only 6% be called not statistically important? Give me 6% more in my pension and it sure the f is important.
Right on brother!
Hey sarge you said,"The $23 million is only about 6% of the fund's value...Not statistically important"
Sorry but FU++ you if 23 million is "Not statistically importan" in your eyes, every GD dime is important to me! If you and Robbins feel that way then stay the FU++ away from my pension money!
Check your math, sarge. Did you graduate from a Chicago public high school?
What percent was that 23 million of the city budget? Cuuse some one downtown thought enough of it to ask for it back.
did anyone hear from Robbins on his defense for giving back 23 mil for nothing I guess as long as FOP lackeys are speaking for him, you know who will be talking; merit detective donahue " i never worked a day on this job".
Thanks SCC for the links. I'm impressed that I have been elevated in status to "Tierney's" group see 1st post. There is NO group, I run an independant campaign with my own resources generated by side jobs. I have not listed ANY endorsements. It is a single patrolmans vote on the board. I am a patrolman I will vote for what is best for us and our families.
As for Sgt. Shemash, he is the master of the cut and paste, the same diatribe is listed twice on my blog and again on Jans. You got your F.O.P. endorsement to run for the Sgt's union. Please stick to Sgt's business. One other thing sarge, Kenny hauser is NOT in your "Slate" he is endorsed by the F.O.P. along with John Dineen and you neglected to mention the $5000.00 the F.O.P. is allowing those 2 candidates to split with receipts. A waste of money to endorse 2 people running against each other!
$23 million at 5% compounded interest over 10 years brings it to 37 million. F.O.P. and Sgt math is a little off base. Just to start with we lost 1.18 million at 5% 1st year after give away.
Sgt mike shemash states:" "I AM A FULL DUES PAYING MEMBERE OF FOP".
Look out Sgt. Shemash you are in violation of the CPD Rules and Regulations Rule 54B "joining or retention of membership by supervisory personnel in any labor organization, whose members is composed of rank and file members of the department, and whose purpose is to represent its members concerning wages, hours, and working conditions." Supervisory personnel means any sworn member of the rank of sergeant and above!!
Shemash your BUSTED cc IAD
I see FOP likes to use Sgts on committees shemash pension and our old friend Kubik health and insurance yea lets give sgts part of our dues for all those late night committee meetings i think there is a rule violation lurking
What's the deal with Shemash's sister on disability and Sal's wife working at the FLOP House? Nolan is wearing stripes pushing paper? Does Harold Brown know about all this? Do we need Pat Fitzgerald to start checking out our house?
Congratulations to Officer Steve Robbins and Sgt. Mike Lazzaro. After reading some of the posts it is pretty evident you both will win the trustee spots you are running for. It seems that there are 1 or 2 coppers with envy issues posting on the site and they have to spew misinformation.
Just saw in the 14 OCT 05 Slum-Times (page 12): "the inspector generals office seized the work computer of MIKE TIERNEY, the Water Management's North District superintendent." This in relation to all the crap (gambling, residency, bribes, etc.) ALLEGEDLY going on in the Water Department.
Any relation to JOHN TIERNEY? Dad? Brother? Have we discovered your family connection to Richie Rich?
Yep. Let's put you on the pension board.
Officer Tierney,
You obviously did not read the post Shemash wrote:
“Therefore Steve Robbins, Mike Lazzaro, and Ken Hauser were chosen for this task, with the full recommendation of two committees that work closely with the Pension Board, the Disability and Pension.”
KEY WORD “Recommendation”. The committee’s do not decide who the FOP endorse's, that is the job of the FOP Board. You know them, the guys that won the election?
the guys that won the election Steve Robbins is a looooser!!! He ran with the city wide team and was beat by Burns lets see that according to Mark "the king maker" the city wide team was not going to lose but maybe one spot last count maybe seven. that is exactly what happen to the Nolan group first a small cut then the FATAL cut to the heart!! Watch out Mark it's coming and you will be sitting next to Nolan in the Sheriffs office the graveyard for lets make a deal fop presidents!!!
steveeie i blow a pipe has not responded to anything! Why because he knows he's a beaten man with a voting record that bite him in the ass!!
You fucking Idiot 3:46 Am POST. When the city lowered the time to 29 yrs they had to compress the salary period. They did not od naything for us or our benefit. They lowered the time to 29 yrs for insurance purposes because in 2013 NO one will get insurance (retirees) period. Low the time , get us used to paying these outrageous payments and then take it all away.
In regards to the "Mike tierney" water dept comment. If I was in any way related to him, do you seriously think I would have spent the last 10 years working on the streets in 013? In your dreams. My mom and Dad came here 50 years ago from Ireland, got their citizenship and worked in the Hotel/Restaurant industry before they retired. Nice try! My family connection consists of Mom, Dad, Wife, 2 Kids.
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