Do We Have a Learning Disability?
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What the fuck people? Can't we go a couple of months without someone getting DUI'ed and killing civilians? Seriously. We are majorly ticked off right now. It's not enough that the one guy gets 12 years for killing two kids at 159th & Harlem in the suburbs while DUI off duty (the truly sad part of the story? THAT copper was training in the 010th District when another 010th District guy got sent up for killing another civilian DUI, off duty.) Now we get a guy in Indiana (allegedly DUI), running into another guy (who is also allegedly DUI) and another dead civilian.
If we were the Superintendent, we'd be asking "What the fuck?!" In fact, we'll bet that is EXACTLY what the Supe is asking. And before anyone downtown gets the bright idea that more training videos is going to suddenly make everyone jump onto the wagon and start attending AA meetings, think again. You don't need a training video - you need testimonial videos. The one video that made us wear a seatbelt was the one of that copper that lost an eye when he wasn't strapped in. You get a video of some of these convicted coppers talking about life on the inside, how they can't believe they killed someone, how they wrecked their careers, their lives and can't believe it turned out like this for them, maybe you'll see some people sit up and take notice.
We remember some old timer saying that his star opened up a world that no one else ever saw. Maybe he got to stand on the pitchers mound at Wrigley or jog the base paths at old Comiskey when no one was there but the groundskeepers. Perhaps he meant going to the very top of the Sears Tower - the roof, not the observation deck. Maybe he got to sneak into a Bears game for a few minutes when he was supposed to be directing traffic or hang around the players lot at the Chicago Stadium and get a few autographs.
But that star can open up a hell, too. And if you've got that star and you kill someone DUI, you're going to ride that piece of tin into hell and they are going to crucify you on it. For god's sake people, sleep it off somewhere. If you're drinking near the station, sleep it off in the locker room - you won't be the first guy or the last to do it. We're old enough to remember some copper sleeping it off in the cell next to some jagoff waiting for the morning bus to County. Find a friend's house and walk there. Call a friend to get you. Do anything except get behind that wheel and fuck over your job, fuck over your life, fuck over your family and fuck over everyone else who wears that star.
Or fuck over someone else's family who doesn't even know who the hell you are except some asshole with a star who killed their loved one, drunk and off duty.
What the fuck people? Can't we go a couple of months without someone getting DUI'ed and killing civilians? Seriously. We are majorly ticked off right now. It's not enough that the one guy gets 12 years for killing two kids at 159th & Harlem in the suburbs while DUI off duty (the truly sad part of the story? THAT copper was training in the 010th District when another 010th District guy got sent up for killing another civilian DUI, off duty.) Now we get a guy in Indiana (allegedly DUI), running into another guy (who is also allegedly DUI) and another dead civilian.
If we were the Superintendent, we'd be asking "What the fuck?!" In fact, we'll bet that is EXACTLY what the Supe is asking. And before anyone downtown gets the bright idea that more training videos is going to suddenly make everyone jump onto the wagon and start attending AA meetings, think again. You don't need a training video - you need testimonial videos. The one video that made us wear a seatbelt was the one of that copper that lost an eye when he wasn't strapped in. You get a video of some of these convicted coppers talking about life on the inside, how they can't believe they killed someone, how they wrecked their careers, their lives and can't believe it turned out like this for them, maybe you'll see some people sit up and take notice.
We remember some old timer saying that his star opened up a world that no one else ever saw. Maybe he got to stand on the pitchers mound at Wrigley or jog the base paths at old Comiskey when no one was there but the groundskeepers. Perhaps he meant going to the very top of the Sears Tower - the roof, not the observation deck. Maybe he got to sneak into a Bears game for a few minutes when he was supposed to be directing traffic or hang around the players lot at the Chicago Stadium and get a few autographs.
But that star can open up a hell, too. And if you've got that star and you kill someone DUI, you're going to ride that piece of tin into hell and they are going to crucify you on it. For god's sake people, sleep it off somewhere. If you're drinking near the station, sleep it off in the locker room - you won't be the first guy or the last to do it. We're old enough to remember some copper sleeping it off in the cell next to some jagoff waiting for the morning bus to County. Find a friend's house and walk there. Call a friend to get you. Do anything except get behind that wheel and fuck over your job, fuck over your life, fuck over your family and fuck over everyone else who wears that star.
Or fuck over someone else's family who doesn't even know who the hell you are except some asshole with a star who killed their loved one, drunk and off duty.
posted by SCC at 11:41 PM
93 Comments:
Orrrrrr.....call a tow truck to take you and your car home.
Anonymous said...
I just got home and I drove 12 miles while super fucked up. But I can still spell, so fuck you and your self righteous ass.
1/15/2006 05:58:42 AM
I pulled the above posting off "OH NO QUICK HITS" I believe it was in response to something I said. That mentality is part of the problem.
Whether it's arrogance or the "it can't happen to me" syndrome, until we as a group of people get it through our thick skulls that the star in our wallet is NOT a magic talisman, there will be more coppers killing civilians.
I'm not trying to preach, I just want everyone to use their heads for a minute and keep their families, their jobs, their lives, and the lives of others intact. If you want to drink, walk home, take a cab, or do it at home.
How many days will pass before the next copper steps in shit? I hope a very long long time.
And the self-righteous assholes that post shit like the posting I cut and pasted, go fuck yourselves!
to SCC....whatever you're asking, it's too much (and unrealistic). Ending DUI's, whether they be police involved or not, is like trying to stop shootings, or dope, or illegal immigration....it ain't going to happen. Why? because people (including the police) do things that are either not in society's interest, and/or are not punished by society in an effective manner. For example,(1) gun control: there are an estimated 300 million firearms in civilian hands in America; what does anyone do about it now?; (2) DUI'S....what is the punishment (are people convicted of DUI sentenced to mandatory prison time?) and where is the prison space, the tax dollars, etc.); (3) the availabilty of alcohol; is prohibition a rational alternative, when the US has no control over immigarnts or dope coming in to this country. The result.....anyone who drives drunk, including law enforcement officers, will face the legally imposed penalties. There is NO humanly designed method to prevent those tragedies from happening.....period
off subject
Great job to the guy's in 025 and assisting units and outside units who got the black pickup with the 4 armed robbers wanted for crime pattern!
Feel free to go have a drink after it's all said and done, but call for a ride home. Or just have 2 and drive the speed limit!
We should start up the coppers cab service and man it with volunteers.
No questions asked call a number and a volunteer copper off duty will pick you up and a partner will drive home your ride.
Here is the latest link to the story. I think SCC you have jumped the gun on this one. I like you but you are being self-rightous.
If you read the story you'll see the other driver TURNED IN FRONT OF HIM. The other driver refused to take a breath test. It doesn't say how impaired the P/O was at the time.
Prehaps he only had three or four beers in an hour's time. Legally he is probably a DUI. Could he drive well? Probably.
It was a tragedy for the P/O as well. You are unaware of how intoxicated the P/O was and until you have the proof.ay off!!!
http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2006/01/18/news/lake_county/de149fdd538668fe862570fa000b6f49.txt
Hey, 1:19....the copper was DUI. He probably wasn't at fault as the other guy turned in front of him, but as you are aware, he's still toast!
Assuming he wasn't speeding, and it's 100% not his fault, he's still guilty of agg. dui under Illinis statutes. What the exact law is in Indiana I don't know.
You're reaching for straws. It doesn't matter if it's your fault or not, if you crash and someone dies, and you're DUI, you're toast.
I wish he hadn't done it, but he did. Maybe, just maybe someone out there in SCC land will wake up and not be the next copper to go to the shithouse.
The younger coppers on the job DO have that sense of invinceability.I know I did. As a young tact officer it was SOP to hit the bar and tie one on. I drove home on more than one occasion "over the limit." It was omly by the grace of God I never hurt myself or anyone else.Now that I'm older and a little wiser,I only drink at home or I use a designated driver from among my friends.I truly hope that what happened to these young P.O.'s is a wakeup call for ALL of us.
I agree with the volunteer copper cab service. Why not? I would give up a night to volunteer to shuttle around drunk coppers. Lets look into it.
SCC I couldent agree with you more!
To 12:23 and 1:19, SCC made, but did not emphasize the point enough. The badge can open up huge worlds for us! WE can do shit civilians WISH they could do! But when it comes to standing in front of the man in the black robe, his/her thaugt is "THIS, OF ALL MOTHERFUCKERS SHULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER!!!"
Hell, I like to drink as much as if not more than the next guy/gal out there. I'll drink with cops in cop bars, I'll drink with "regular people" in "regular bars" (Leftie, I WONT drink with you in those type of bars!) I'll drink with my family at family functions (before some jackass starts in on me, to you the following:) Hell, sometimes I just dont feel like drinking! on that night (which are more than a few), if I'm out with you: ILL DRIVE YOU THE FUCK HOME! (If I know you/your not a jag-off/wont piss-puke-shit in my car/cute F/1,2,3,4... and want to give me a "sloppy"). YES, I have driven home impared, was it right: NO! (but sooner or later, like dice, were going to "crap out!) The point I'm trying to make is: If I, or anyone else, gets caught, being the police, and the cop who catches me, decides to nail me for a DUI (weather the cop is being a Jag, or (s)he has no choice in the matter), I KNOW I'M F.U.C.K.E.D.! You go in front of a judge, for a DUI, a dope charge, a domestic, or anything when they say "will the defendant please rise" and your ass is the one standing; you are going to get nailed twice as hard as the next "citizen", because of all people, the POLICE SHULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER! As far as the Sup't goes, well, I think his hands are tied in the decision. I hate to think it, but he might make an example out of this one! Put yourself in his place, and what would you do?
And to the "HYPOCRITES" out there, you know who you are, and there is NO NEED TO CALL ANYONE OUT! Remember: what goes around, comes around!
Am I advocating mandatory AA meeting after check off? Fuck no, we are all adults and can make a choice in what is right and wrong, thats part of our job. hopefully we can make the same choice off duty.
P.S. sorry the sermon was so long at todays gathering! Please pass the hat for the collection.
I've said it before here. Call or have the bar call a cab. Don't be a cheap cop bastard all your life.
And to the pukes who let your friends drive home drunk, shame on you. I've stole more coppers keys than I can remember. They are still alive and the only ones not on the job retired. Let's take care of each other.
I agree with the testimonials that are needed. In the CO Book now, there is a page devoted to having the w/c review "Rule 15" for the next 3 days - how we are prohibited from being intoxicated ON or OFF duty. The fact that we are prohibited from even being intoxicated off duty needs to be addressed. If I am not required to carry my weapon at all times (ala FBI), and if I do not have my weapon while drinking, and if I choose NOT to drive after going out, then what right does the department have to say that I cannot be intoxicated? And before you get started on me - I know it's one of those tack on rules that exists just to crucify someone in addition to something bigger (i.e. a dui), but I'm just voicing my annoyance with the fact that it exists.
I think that a "drunk van" driven by sober off duty PO's for those who choose to imbibe is definitely a step in the right direction. However, the legalities of that might be an issue...sorry to be Debbie Downer. But what happens if that car gets into an accident? Is the driver being paid? Whose insurance will be covering?
Outstanding job in 025 tonight. Props to the Robbery team on the stake-out and shoot-out. Props as well to assisting units, especially 016 gang team.
1 armed offender DOA, 2 offenders arrested, no PO's injured (close call though, watch the crossfire, kids).
Good job as well on the crime scene by the PO's and Det's.
Good job, in advance, to NcNulty with the round table.
Manpower to develope crime pattern of armed robberies at Auto-Zone: $20,000.
Overtime for 15 involved po's, 40 witness po's, 50 detectives, 20 supervisors and exempts: $40,000.
Seeing 20 casings in the air at one time because some mope decided to point a gun at 10 coppers who already had a bead on him: priceless....
regarding 0401 comments on insurance risks.
I would be happy to be a volunteer driver, I think the drunk truck is a novel idea. I pay alot every year for my car insurance, with mulitple vehicles and full coverage and so be it if we get in a crash, we are all covered, I'm driving a neighbor home thats that. It's only money, not a prison sentence, not loss of career. It's an ACCIDENT that's why we have insurance. From a civilian who actually believes you guys/gals are doing a great job. I've gotten plenty of breaks in my life and would be happy to pay a few back.
In the old days we had a "drunk truck" for off duty P.O.'s it was called a squad car. When there was still a sense of kinship on this job, all you had to do was flag down an on duty car (at 2 or 3 am it wasn't so busy) and ask for help to get home. I know I escorted more than 1 P.O. home.
I know this can't happen anymore due to the big brother issues of needing to know where you exactly are at any given moment during your tour, but I think enough dues are paid to FOP and PBPA to fund the drunk bus. I would rather see my dues used to prevent us needlessly losing another family member of our blue family, than see them piss the money away for dumb sh*t they do spend the money on. Not that my input will make a difference.
Re: Drunk Truck...
I'm in! I hope we can get this going. These last two stories of young P.O.'s losing their careers before they really started makes me very sad. Like a previous poster stated, by the grace of God went I more than once. And I still will give a copper a ride if he waved me down. There's always a way to get around it within reason. "Squad, I have a motorist who's car is disabled. Permission to get him home?"
I know the officer personally. Great kid, however this was not the first time he had problems with alcohol on the job. The first time was a blessing, second time you are on your own. Good luck kid, I hope it was worth it.
For Lefty:
For now, news reports on television said both drivers had a BAC over the limit. From the same news accounts, the officer wasn't even at fault, unless he was speeding.
But from my experience, if Indiana prosecutes like Illinois, he's screwed either way. How many coppers have handled a traffic accident where the person who was NOT AT FAULT didn't have a license? I know I have many times. Same thing applies here, the copper's BAC is over, so he's up the creek. He may not get hit with reckless homicide or it's equivelent in Indiana, but he's sure to get hit with a felony.
Then there is the cr number he will have to answer here. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
How much longer until the next one?
While I have many friends north of the U.S. border, I assume that the
four armed robbers in 025 were Canadians.
Wrong, fool. Four Danes from Copenhagen.
Let us smoke weed! We'll all be reeeal mellow. hehhehehehe
We've already established in other threads that there will be no drunk truck. Plenty of self-righteous fucks chimed in saying if you drink, fuck you; no breaks.
Great news everyone! Our chopper is operational.
Sure, it's only available between the hours of 1000 and 1700, but nothing ever happens in this city after 5 PM anyway. Right?
If everything you read about drinking and driving combined with what we KNOW about drinking and driving, ie..loss of life, job, family disgrace, etc. doesn't stop people from doing it, what will? How many times have you arrested the same hype at the same dope spot? They know you sit there. They know what the consequences are if you catch them. Have you ever thought what you would want to do to a drunk if they hurt your family on the road? I'm sure killing them is what runs through your head. Would that change at all if the offender was a PO? Not for me.
Very good "inside" source says BAC was over .20 .
If the chopper is only going to be made available between 1000-1700 hrs, then they should just scrap the whole program.
The majority of manpower is on the streets between 1500-0200 hrs. The the chopper should be available during this time frame as well.
Obviously, the chopper is more of a PR thing than a real crime fighting tool
I went out last night. $20 cab ride there and $20 cab ride home..Yeah 40 bucks is alot-but better than being front page news. I have too much to lose to NOT take a cab...I have seen one too many accident and too many headlines to drive impaired
Unless the helicopter is equipped with Doppler and FLIR it's pretty much useless after dark anyway. Maybe the one on order will ave all the bells and whistles.
1/18/2006 12:28:30 PM
Don't hurt your shoulder patting yourself on the back.
What ever happened to that drunken doctor who T Boned a lady downtown a couple of years ago , killing her?????
Doppler and FLIR are wasted on daylight.
why bother at all?
Maybe the pilots work all but first watch.
If I were to dispose of a body it would be around 4:40 am
I'm not going to say c'mon everyone, watch this...
without the corraboration of any additional witnesses the state won't prosecute anyway.
if I claim I'm a witness who stumbled upon the body I can leave.
if I flee the scene in my car they can't chase me.
if I demand a lawyer and make no statements I'll walk.
dumbass coppers
Who needs choppers?
Huh?
I think someone needs their meds.
I went out last night. $20 cab ride there and $20 cab ride home..Yeah 40 bucks is alot-but better than being front page news. I have too much to lose to NOT take a cab...I have seen one too many accident and too many headlines to drive impaired
1/18/2006 12:28:30 PM
and you have ahole's complaining about a extra buck for signing up for sgt's test. i guess he will be the next one we see on t.v.
If the chopper is only going to be made available between 1000-1700 hrs, then they should just scrap the whole program.
It will be flying cricles around the area of Roosevelt and Indiana. This way hiz and her ONNA Da daleys will impress more of their friends.
It doesnt matter what is BAC was, if it was .0001 over the legal limit, or 1.0 over the limit, hes toast! It dosent matter if the other driver was drinking or not, this cop is still in trouble! It dosent matter who turned in front of who, the cop is in some shit right now!
As for the drunk truck, you know some cop is going to abuse that too! I'm all in for it, and for "squad, got a stranded motorist,i'm gonna take him home". If its in 018 and he lives in 016, no problem! if he's in 016 and lives in 004, no problem! Its on the clock, I'll get OT if it takes me past my 8hrs, and the most important thing: I get to say:"I HELPED OUT ANOTHER COP!" but thats what we're supposed to do, right?
Dont count your chickens. The chopper on order will never arrive.
The money will be hi jacked for some other pet program of da mayor.
we will be stuck with that piece of shit the CFD did not want and never used.
Did you forget this is the CPD.
Amen SCC!! The dept needs to address this problem before more lives are ruined!!
agee, thanks Dad
Just wanted to chime in here. I think the majortity of us can say that we had a few too many drinks at one time or another.
I agree, we need to help each other out and maybe the Drunk Truck is a way to give something back.
Perhaps the FOP could organize something. Maybe a N. Side truck and a S. Side truck.
We really do need to do something -times are not what they used to be.
We have to take care of our own and right now we are laking.
problem with encouraging beat cars to give guys a ride home:
Who do you think is gonna be the one asked to constantly give drunk POs the rides home? That's right, 2211, 2212, 2213, 2221, a whole buncha people in 018, 012, 016, 013 and 002. And when those of us in 016 and 022 ask "where's our beat car" while mayhem broke out in Mt. Greenwood or Sauganash, I'm supposed to accept that some area 1 dick needed a ride home from the bars for the fifth night this week?
Sorry, but y'all want to subsidize a "drunk" truck, have at it on your own time. Don't take my beat car off my beat. You'd be surprised how long it can take to drive up to 9,000 POs and friends home, all over the city, from bars all over the city.
Your hearts are in the right place, but charity begins at home... and subsidizing bad behavior only begats more bad behavior.
I can't believe it....Lefty kept on topic......I knew he could if he stays off the liberal bs....
To: 1/18/2006 01:23:09 PM
Say What???
Can you try to make sense of your comment. I don't think anyone else can?
The beat guys giving the drunk cop a ride home will probable catch a CR # for doing it....From the drunk they gave a ride home....
I'm all for helping a brother/sister officer out no matter what, but lets cut the bull on getting CR #'s against each other the crap...
If you don't like this job, get another job. Like busting concrete for a living....
Heard a rumor about "Rule 15" Drunkeness on or off-duty. The problem is how do you enforce the off-duty thing? Inspectors in the copper bars?
As mentioned earlier "been there done that" and "Only by the grace of GOD". Young and Dum, to much testostone, etc. that I didnt kill myself widowing the bride orphaning the baby at the time.
Now much older and wiser (up for debate on that one), and medical issues that prohibit the consumption of adult distilled or brewed beverages I hope that the young bucks are taking note of this all.
Hey Tie one on! Eat Drink and Be Merry! But please take a cab, call someone to get your butt home ALIVE!!
Think of what your leaving behind. Moms, Dads, Wives, Kids, partners, friends.
Be safe
Maybe some of those posting about the helicopter should actually READ the fax that came out. The equipment is on order to outfit the present chopper with the appropriate equipment... as one said, it is basically useless at night without the FLIR etc. therefor, they won't be flying at night until the equipment is on...after that, availability will be expanded to hours of darkness... The Fax also states that the operations will be phased in and expanded throughout 2006...
As a pilot with a rotory wing license. Flying around the city is fairly easy at night. Now finding bad guy without the proper equipment now thats another story entirely. I started flying lessons as a hobby and as happenstance will happen I was wearing a CPD shirt and struck up a conversation with a "Old-Timer" who "Hooked a brother UP". Its amazing how a real part can pay off a house.
We do need a Helicopter cause then their will really be no reason for car chases.
in addition to chases... searches over fairly open territory.
THere are so many foot chases between 011 and 015 that you could pretty much keep a helicopter busy between 1700 and 0200 every day in the summer just between those two districts.
I'd like to see the helicopter used in this capacity, similar to SOS. If they are not on a specific call or mission, how about a 90 minute or 120 minute fly-around on the west side on some days in the summer. Maybe Fridays and Saturdays at 1900 to 2200?
Any NYPD MOSers here to provide input into how helos are used in NYC? This information may come in handy for a few of us.
Anonymous said...
What ever happened to that drunken doctor who T Boned a lady downtown a couple of years ago , killing her?????
1/18/2006 01:05:31 PM
He was convicted of reckless homicide and sentenced to prison. He's out.
BTW, had he not crashed into that taxicab, he would have been in the ER at Illinois Masonic at 0900. His BAC would still have been over 0.10 by the time he started work. How would you have liked to have been his patient?
Anonymous said...
Heard a rumor about "Rule 15" Drunkeness on or off-duty. The problem is how do you enforce the off-duty thing?
It's usually enforced AFTER a copper steps into shit! Typical ways, coming to work drunk, getting pinched DUI, getting in a beef with the other half and get ratted out. Otherwise, no one's looking for you at the tavern.
My friends know they can call me anytime if they need a lift, no questions asked. We should all volunteer to help each other out if we over imbibe. There's no shame in being given a ride home, but plenty of shame standing in front of the guy with the black robes.
7:43 PM
NYPD helicopters are 24/7 with FAA qualified M.O.S. pilots. The Aviation Unit is based at Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn.
Like ESU and the Harbor Unit, the Aviation Unit is part of the Special Operations Division (SOD).
Both the NYPD and LAPD have many choppers.
They could have used the helo last night in 009. car chase started in 009 and ended at 103 and dotty in 004. The bosses let it go. Now thats balls. One asshole in custody for PSMV invest alert for robberies and two warrants in a car stolen from milwaukee wisconsin.
Question? Anyone here ever been to a police benefit, party, Christmas or retirement where alchohol was not served? Rule 15 my-ss
If there is a "Drunk Van" I propose the following names for the service:
The Rodriguez Run
The Radke Special
The Schenker Express
The Scholl Mobile
Rehab should be mandatory for active CPD drunkards. Termination for chronic alcoholics who refuse to reform.
Congratulations to Deputy Chief Frank Radke. He took the pledge and has been on the wagon since the first of the year.
To the chase in 009, "the bosses in nine let it go, thats balls."
Are you nuts? big deal they got a hot car, and an inv. alert, the chase went to 104/Doty, for a hot car? those supervisors rolled the dice, this time it worked out. That chase should have been terminated, no hot car is worth injuring yourself or others period.
We have a copper in the hospital paralyzed from the chest down, his partner is ok physically, but mentally a wreck, for going after someone speeding. Take care of yourself guys and gals!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another pussy ass wannabe supervisor chimes in. Even if you wear the rank, you're still a wannabe.
1/18/2006 10:17:29 PM
Fuck off you self righteous prick. If you had a friend you'd have someone to drink with. Know-it-alls like you are the dickheads everyone on the watch avoids. Ever notice you are always alone?
No I actually have a large circle of friends, yes I am a supervisor, and yes i would have terminated that chase. A car can be replaced, shattered lives and families cannot. If the chase isn't related to an officer down incident, shots fired at the police etc. it's getting terminated. Maybe when you've had to go to the house of an injured officer and wake his family in the middle of the night and break the bad news to them you will wake up and realize that this shit is for real. So you can take your self rightous b.s. and cram it.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers said...
1/18/2006 10:17:29 PM
Fuck off you self righteous prick. If you had a friend you'd have someone to drink with. Know-it-alls like you are the dickheads everyone on the watch avoids. Ever notice you are always alone?
1/19/2006 02:36:07 AM
You sir, or is it madam? Are an asshole! The name you use says it all. When you're drinking do you still says "give me one for the ditch," thinking it's funny. If you live up to the bullshit name you log on with, you're not funny. Go laugh it up with the morons who do, but if you are living up to your name, I've seen your kind before. I've been a copper a long time and there is nothing funny about a drunk who crashes.
Maybe one day you'll either wake up, or shut up, but I doubt it.
to 01:01:34
go fuck yourself asshole!! Those coppers in 009 did what police do. They catch bad guys! It was an excellent job by the officers both from 009, 004 and canine to catch this asshole who it turns out WAS wanted for armed robbery too. Everything we do, everyday, is a calculated risk. The officers weighed the risks just the same as they do when they hear loud reports and start heading in that direction. Can they go the other way...sure they can. Do they...FUCK NO! Why...because they are the police and the police catch assholes. Thats what we do. You are right their supervisors rolled the dice and got lucky but they too were taking a calculated gamble. They knew the ability of those particular officers, the traffic conditions at that time and they too laid their houses on the line. They trusted the officers and the officers trusted them.
P.S.
Those same supervisors terminated a chase about 2 hours later when a female P.O. started screaming (sirens and screaching tires in the background) that they were "following" a car at 30 MPH.
The ball less commander came to roll call and made it clear terminate all chases if they hit the expressway. Fucking coward. Thats why they call him clueless gene
No my friend you are the clueless one, chases are over in this city, you need to realize that. Even with the new helicopters, there won't be chases, the policy will be the same. I'm not knocking the abilities of the coppers or the supervisors in 009 for their work in the chase, a coppers abilities mean nothing in the pursuit policy, just that the risk involves outweighs the need to apprehend the bad guy, a hot car hardly qualifies. Do I agree? no, but the policy is what it is and God forbid if it should go bad, injury to yourself, your partner and innocents aren't worth it!
terminate if they hit the expressway... even at 2AM?
I could see a don't chase through residential naborhoods unless its REAAAALY serious during the one or two hours when schools tend to let out in the afternoon. I could see general guidelines for when risks to innocents are heightened.
But the expressway? I simply do not get that. There ain't no pedestrians on the expressway!
chase.....dont chase
drink.....dont drink
we are all over twentyone, make a decision and go with it. You sound like a bunch of little kids.
what happened too the 2 cars in 024 (driven by females) that kept chasing after it was called off 3 times ?? one had a PPO on the car, way too look out our the kid.
wrong way on LSD caused a few crashes after creative writing the chaseee caused them all.
chase was for traffic btw.
if it happened too me i would be 30 pending i guess girls got clout or no gag reflex
I agree with the no chase policy. You could get hurt for nothing. Next is no emergency equipment for "in progress" jobs. Most of them are bullshit anyway. Why should we rush to the man with a gun when it's nothing but a baby mamma who's pissed at her man? After that I'll be lobbying for no emergency equipment on the way to legit crimes. Fuck it, the deed has been done. Rushing there won't change anything. I won't be happy until everyone is an empty sack supervisor like me.
12:03
The latter, bro.
If they're attractive and improve their skills, they'll be moving to 35th and Michigan as "interns".
1/19/2006 07:47:06 AM
Quit your bellyaching you whiny bitch. I never advocated drunk driving. Quit reading into everything. There is nothing wrong with having a drink. Do you want prohibition back? Go sit in the closet with all your friends. Next you'll be lecturing us all about domestic violence. Are you the master of "politically incorrect" crime?
By the by, QUIT TYPING IN SOME BULLSHIT ANGLOPHILE VERNACULAR!
This is the last time I'll respond to your bullshit. How can any reasonable person not read into Drunks Against Mad Mothers? Your name says it all. I'm not against drinking either, just don't want people driving drunk, especially my fellow coppers.
But I guess that's too much for you to comprehend. You'd rather talk stupid and make dumb jokes. Black humor is one thing, but you aren't making those kind of jokes. You're talking high and mighty like this is all some kind of joke. Our fellow coppers are stepping into shit and going to jail because they're not using their heads. And you? You think anyone who asks sensible behavior is being high and might.
You are the one being high and mighty and you are being an asshole. So as I say goodbye to you, I just hope you're the type of guy who may stir up the pot, but doesn't drive when he's had too much.
Go fuck yourself too!
My cock's not big enough to fuck myself. Maybe you can come over for a load or send your old lady.
How pithy! Can we quote your, drunkie?
It appears that yes, we all have a learning disability.
So, how long before the next copper bites the dust? :Þ
Let's use the choppers to take drunken coppers home.
Hey MR Anonymous said... You're talking high and mighty like this is all some kind of joke.... and bla,bla,bla...
Hows the view from up on that high horse of yours? My suggestion to you is: Let the Prozac kick in before you hit the keyboard, or hopefully strap on the gunbelt!
Sorry, it 2"p"'s in SUPPORTER, but Mr "Spelling Police" will, more than likley, point that out.
DAMM suporter said...
Hey MR Anonymous said... You're talking high and mighty like this is all some kind of joke.... and bla,bla,bla...
Hows the view from up on that high horse of yours? My suggestion to you is: Let the Prozac kick in before you hit the keyboard, or hopefully strap on the gunbelt!
1/20/2006 03:14:02 AM
You're right, I'm so sorry....why should I or anyone give a shit if a copper gets shitfaced and crashes, ruining his life and career and who knows who elses? What was I thinking.
OK EVERYONE, go out, get shitfaced, drive home and put the car on auto pilot. You'll be OK!
Get a life you dickwad!
Dickwad... funny, real funny, now I can say "go fuck yourself" , like soo many others have, and you still dont get the point! So, I'll try this another way:
"...And the self-righteous assholes that post shit like the posting I cut and pasted, go fuck yourselves!" (might be you, dont know, but here it goes) and your anger at "D.A.M.M." how pathetic are you! Its called HUMOR, try and laugh about things once and a while! Laugh at someones fuck up, learn from it, but laugh in the mean time! You have too much frustration and anger built up, Its gonna eat you up man! When I read the manual, it states "operator functions better when crainum is not placed in rectum". Pull your head out, and get a wiff of fresh air, maby then you'll be able to tell us that your crap does infact stink! To the rest of us, thats HUMOR, but you'll be frothing at the mouth in the fetal position telling yourself "think of a happy place" writhing in the bile of your anger, praying to god the med's kick in soon! Maby the idiot who said "lets smoke some weed..." is right, maby not. but you need to do something! Get one of those "Special Massages" , a rub & tug might help you out, get a blowjob! Hell, give a blowjob, your frustration might be from a confusion in your own sexuality, I'm confident enough in mine to say that! I dont know, but I do know your one pissed off lil pup!
"...the chase went to 104/Doty, for a hot car? those supervisors rolled the dice, this time it worked out. That chase should have been terminated,..." It will be easy to sopt you at the St Jude parade, thumb in a cast from pounding it on your chest tellin' all "how great a job you would have done if you were there" The other arm all akimbo from patting yourself on the back! Remember this, all you will ever be is a supervisor, nothing more! Now in your delusional world, that might mean something, but guess what, you'll NEVER be a LEADER with your attitude! And that statement is not made to sully or belittle ANY rank on this department, just your attitude! You have to respect the rank, not the person. What this department needs is more LEADERSHIP. (I'll give you a hint: want to be a boss- go make the dogs work, want to be a GOOD BOSS; make the dogs WANT to work! want to be a supervisor, keep doin' what your doin'!) If you know what was going on, and you know your police working for you, let them do police work! You wernt even there, but yet, "monday morning quarter-back" the decision made by your fellow bosses! And with your desision, why would anyone "work" for you? Can you help me understand how you can make a desision on a situation that you were not at at? How do you know the guy was wanted in an INV.Alert? Cause the cop stopped them! But to you, those Officers are pulling some cowboy/loose cannon shit! I understand our primary resopnsibility is towards protection of life & property!
"...you will wake up and realize that this shit is for real. So you can take your self rightous b.s. and cram it." we know that the minute we signed on for this job, we ALL know this job is dangerous, On and Off duty, but we still do it! so, how much of an ass would you feel like if they would have had a body in the trunk? I guess not like one at all, cause you woulden have let it gone that far? Is it just me, or is that being "self rightous"? Keep your head in the sand, what you dont see cant hurt you! You sit there and pontificate about how fucked up someone else can be because they use the pen-name "drunks against mad mothers", and you use "anonymous". Remember this: it might be what was on the side of your bus/football helmet, but you, nor I for that matter, are special. Proof: the Sup't Cline decides to piss off the mayor today, with the mean stroke of a pen, presto, he's a LT! Fucked up, but true, Im sad to say! Look on your paycheck, its a copy of a copy of the mayors signature, he dont sign your, or my, check himself. One day soon, maby you'll understand that, when you get past that anger you have built up, we are all just here trying to do our time, some being the police, some not. So breathe deep, let the spring unwind before it snaps, have a drink, dont drive, I'm guessing you're an adult, you can make that decision on your own, like the rest of us, we dont need baby-sitters. Chill out on your addiction to this thread, to me, your addiction is kind of like a Mexican Soap-opera: cute, but I'll never understand it, it would be a waste of my time! (SCC dont get pissed, I'm not likening your blog/thread, just his addiction to it, keep up the fight & good work!) To the rest of the readers, I must apologize, this rant on my soap-box was only directed at one person and not a blanket statement about others! but then again, maby Mom was right, maby its time I shuld grow up!
By the way, I forgot; "Damm", the first round is on me, if you'll pick up the cab fare!
8:50
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Huh!
Say what?
obviously the p.o. at 159th Harlem didn't learn a thing, drunk again this summer at Sox game and starting fights.
0:850 is one smart mutha fucka!!
8:50 I won't try to address whatever you're attempting to say, but I'll be brief.
It appears you think you're talking to one person when I can attest that you are at least speaking to two. I'm the author of some of the things you addressed, I don't know who else did the other stuff.
I'll just say, I've been a copper almost 23 years, worked the street, made my share of pinches, including every type of Part I except treason. I never ran from trouble or failed to assist a fellow officer; got lucky and was promoted ten years ago.
I drink on occasion, but don't drive if I'm going to have more than two. Seen a lot of death from drunk drivers including coppers and wish it would stop. I'm a realist though, and we'll never stop all the drunks, stop all the murderers, stop all the dope peddling, but we try.
It's sad though when coppers get drunk and kill people. The rest of the public I don't care about, but I do care about my fellow officers. I just wish they'd not put themselves at risk. Enough said on that.
You? You go fuck yourself! You don't like that, too bad. If it makes you feel better, you can tell me to get fucked too, won't be the first time.
Everyone please be safe, even you 8:50
obviously the p.o. at 159th Harlem didn't learn a thing, drunk again this summer at Sox game and starting fights.
1/20/2006 01:05:43 PM
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Who's that.. Casper.. the who just went to the joint??
I love the resumes. Some of you fuckers are really impressed with yourselves. You forgot to tell us this...
"I eat concertina wire and piss napalm and I could a round through a fleas ass at 300 yards. I've drank more beer, pissed more blood, and banged more quiff than all you numb-nuts put together."
Please provide more example of your Don Johnson "seen it all, done it all" cop on the edge career. Do you really say this shit to people off this board? Or does the anonymity of the internet allow your glorified self-image to swell in its magnificence?
the realist said...
I love the resumes. Some of you fuckers are really impressed with yourselves. You forgot to tell us this...
"I eat concertina wire and piss napalm and I could a round through a fleas ass at 300 yards. I've drank more beer, pissed more blood, and banged more quiff than all you numb-nuts put together."
Please provide more example of your Don Johnson "seen it all, done it all" cop on the edge career. Do you really say this shit to people off this board? Or does the anonymity of the internet allow your glorified self-image to swell in its magnificence?
1/22/2006 05:39:46 AM
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OK asshole, make up your mind. It seems everyone who wants to talk trash only does so after saying how they're the "real police" or how TRU sucks, 016 sucks, 008, sucks, _____ fill in the blank sucks.
I'm the asshole who posted his 'resume' here. Not to be glorious, but to say I've been there, done that too! I'm not a Lambert Tree award winner, nor do I pretend to be. Matter of fact, any awards I may have received I didn't mention, because who gives a shit?
Talk about your experience, you're an asshole blowhard....talk without saying anything, you're an empty holster do nothing. Make up your goddamn mind! Then....go fuck yourself!!
Be safe,
P.S. Don't forget to go fuck yourself to sanctimonious cocksucker!
P.P.S. Be safe
You seem real interested in blow jobs. Any chance of you sucking me off? You could put it on your resume. It might get you a spot.
Any bets on when
1/20/2006 07:05:36 PM
1/22/2006 01:42:19 PM
blows a fuse. Its "me again", Calm the fuck down! Your working on a fist sized aneurysm, or one huge heart attack! As for your "you can tell me to go get fucked too..." We tried, but it is all too apparent that you are too thick headed to listen! Go get laied or something! I told you once, Ill tell you again; CALM DOWN, RELAX! ..."Its called HUMOR, try and laugh about things once and a while! Laugh at someones fuck up, learn from it, but laugh in the mean time! You have too much frustration and anger built up, Its gonna eat you up man!..." Remember?
As for your ..."The rest of the public I don't care about, but I do care about my fellow officers."... So do we, we dont want any ill to fall upon any of our fellow officers as well! My plea to you is; PUT THE RIFLE DOWN, AND COME OFF THE TOWER! Call someone for help! Just call someone: Anger managment, a fellow cop, the wife, a hooker, a priest/rabi/minister, a bartender would do you good too!(but call a cab as not to be a HYPOCRITE) You are WAY to "pent up" and angry! It aint that serious! But please CALM THE FUCK DOWN! Before you go telling me to "go fuck myself" (or varriations thereof) once more, look at what you type, does it sound angry? Are you banging on the keyboard like a "coke'd up hummingbird"? Look in the mirror, are the veins on the side of your head throbbing? Headaches? Then ask yourself who's right! Remember: you, it, them, the job, this thread, cops drinking, cops not drinking, Don Johnson, Mexican Soap-opera, asshole blowhard, resume,... Its not that important in the grand scheme of things! and you dont need to have the "big clintcher" over it!
1/23/2006 04:15:51 AM
Actually, I am quite calm. So go fuck yourself.
Be safe
You're still an idiot with a small dick and low self esteem.
In the worlds of Billy O'Reilly, I'll let you have the last word.
I'll have the second to the last word then: My IQ is above average, my johnson is sufficient size for me and my other half, and my self esteem is fine.
So go fuck yourself!
P.S. Be safe too
"In the worlds of Billy O'Reilly"
Don't you mean "words" tough guy? Good thing you've set yourself up as a genius.
I guess I lied....I didn't get the second to the last word. OK, one more time...yes, I misspelled. I guess that makes me a fucking idiot!! I'm so moronic I don't know what I'll do with myself.
I know!!! I'll tell you to go fuck yourself! So, go fuck yourself.
Now you can have the last word.
Be safe too....dickhead!!
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