Friday, February 17, 2006

Move Along People

Is anyone else surprised that this story isn't getting more play in the media (hat tip Ace of Spades)?
  • Secret audiotapes of Saddam Hussein discussing ways to attack America with weapons of mass destruction will be the subject of an ABC "Nightline" program Wednesday night, a former federal prosecutor told Cybercast News Service.
No, no weapons of mass destruction here. Nothing to see here. Move along people. Bush, Cheney, Blood-for-Oil, Halliburton, Lied/Died, stop wiretapping, close Gitmo, down with the USA. Any of this sound familiar to our resident leftists?

And how about avowed America hater and communist Cindy Sheehan being shouted down at a Chicago area appearance today? Channel 2 and Channel 7 coverage of her appearance at St. Xavier University. We were just wondering - since more American citizens were killed in Los Angeles in 2005 than in Iraq, were Cindy and other leftists going to protest out on the west coast and drive the democrats out of power?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish I'd known that she was going to be there. I could have gotten a couple hundred guys from a few of the VFW Posts, gone down there and shown her how the real America feels about this tool for the left, card carrying member of the "I Hate America Club".

2/17/2006 05:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets raid those cops homes that show more than 25 guns there. Use ATF records. We can get them. Those cops don't need rambo style weapons. What do they do with them? Dress up like a commando and run around their house? We could take those weapons and give them to the UN.

2/17/2006 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The VFW hall? Why? Its full of vietnam bust outs and Korea geezers. WW2 guys mostly dead. Just what you want to see heroin addict Vietnam vets. Oh Boy!

2/17/2006 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pardon me SSC,

"The VFW hall? Why? Its full of vietnam bust outs and Korea geezers. WW2 guys mostly dead. Just what you want to see heroin addict Vietnam vets. Oh Boy! "

2/17/2006 09:08:07 AM
To the aforementioned poster:

Bust outs, geezers,and mostly dead
You low life, water walking, tree climbing, buck tooth, camel riding, tree climbing, bubbled headed, knock knee, slimy walking piece of fece, no excuse for being a human being, no reason for drawing another breath, sorry SOB!
30 yr Vet of CPD...Veteran Of VietNam War...18th MP Brigade (Long Bihn-Vung Tau) 1968-1970 ext/Tr

2/17/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But you guys lost that war. Why would we want to see losers?

2/17/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the arrogant assed posters of 09:08:07 and 10:00am. You two really are ignorant! If it wasn't for ANY of our nations veterans who stepped up to defend democracy any where in the world. We as a nation would be speaking German, Japanese, Chinese or Russan! How dare you call ANY veteran of any of the wars "bust outs"or drug users or whatever else you think. I'll bet that your sorry asses went to college after high school, smoked dope got drunk and all around embarassed your parents. While some of us had the BALLS to join the military and defend our great nation, YOU should thank us veterans every day for the life style you two miserable lowlifes now enjoy! And yes if you haven:t figured out I am a veteran 7 years in the United States Marine Corps, and DAMN PROUD OF IT!

2/17/2006 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The VFW hall? Why? Its full of vietnam bust outs and Korea geezers. WW2 guys mostly dead. Just what you want to see heroin addict Vietnam vets. Oh Boy!

Sir, If you are a police officer I think you and I should have a heart to heart talk. I don't know if I can put my name here youngster but I'm the old Vietnam veteran heroin addict sergeant that works 3rd watch in the 008th district. I hope you are not afraid of heroin addicts because there's nothing between us but air. 2/17/2006 09:08:07 AM

2/17/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and fear.

2/17/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those two idiots have no clue as to the meaning of DUTY or HONOR! You probably still live with "mommy" because you are afraid of the real world! Oh, but as long as you have your Xbox,hair gel, Lexus all is well in your world. And if you two are the POLICE, then it is no wonder our Dept. is so screwed up! God Bless America!

2/17/2006 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous SC 430 said...

I drive a LEXUS and a Ford "beater". I paid my CPD dues a long time ago.

Please do NOT give LEXUS owners a bad rep.

2/17/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sick of Sheehan.

She needs to get a job or hobby.

2/17/2006 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me tell you some intersting facts you dont hear in the media about Sheehan.
The son she lost in Iraq that she loves so much she gave up custodial parental rights in a divorce when the boy was 7 years old. And now she is giving up another son in divorce proceedings.
I have great picture of dumb ass hugging jesse. But I dont know how to post here. Someone tell me and I'll put it up.

2/17/2006 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, it seems most of the westside men were vets. They all wear army jackets. So is this what military does to you? Turn you into a nickel and dime begging bum outside the liquor store?

2/17/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vietnam vets don't be bated into this dialog with an outsider trying to start shit and keep us divided..........

2/17/2006 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

regarding 0908 1000
don't bite, just some crack baby loser trying to start shit.

and to 0822
now why would we want to give our guns away to the UN when we worked hard to purchase them?? Is there some law against playing commando in your house?!?!
Or is dressing up like Adolf the only game you're allowed to play?

2/17/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back to main topic of this thread...

Re: the ABC joke of a story from the "The Ace of Spades? Must be just another "waterboy" for war...
Those dummies LEFT OUT that minor little detail ACTUALLY in these tape recordings that SADDAM DESTROYED his W.M.D.'s in 1991!

That's why we can agree at least that the Mainstream Media BLOWS worse than Monica under a desk (see following post for the shameless details re: ABC WMD tapes report...)

2/17/2006 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous bush & cheney- non-stop-lies- said...

F.A.I.R. (Fairness & Accuracy In Media)
-Action Alert-

Missing From ABC's WMD 'Scoop'
Star defector Hussein Kamel said weapons were d-e-s-t-r-o-y-e-d (!)


On February 15, ABC investigative reporter Brian Ross delivered an exclusive report on World News Tonight and Nightline that purported to be a bombshell. ABC had obtained tape-recorded conversations from mid-1995 that seemed to show that Iraq had been concealing its weapons of mass destruction program. The tapes, according to Ross, "will only serve to fuel the continuing debate about Saddam's true intentions and whether he, in fact, did hide weapons of mass destruction." But ABC viewers were left in the dark about information that would undermine the tape's most important revelations.

ABC emphasized the excerpts of a conversation between Saddam Hussein and his weapons chief (and son-in-law) Hussein Kamel that seem to bolster the idea that Iraq was hiding weapons from inspectors. As Ross reported on Nightline, "Saddam's son-in-law briefs Saddam on the Iraqi campaign of deceit aimed at fooling UN inspectors." Kamel is then heard telling Saddam Hussein, in ABC's translation: "We did not reveal all that we have. Not the type of weapons. Not the volume of the materials we imported. Not the volume of the production we told them about. Not the volume of news. None of this was correct."

ABC provides little context for the exchange, but suggests that these admissions might provide new insight into the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq a decade later. In fact, what Kamel revealed about the extent of Iraq's weapons programs has been known for some time, and portions of his account were an integral part of the White House's case for war.

Kamel defected from Iraq in 1995, and talked at great length with U.N. weapons inspectors and the CIA about Iraq's unconventional weapons programs. He revealed at that time that Iraq's chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs had been more advanced than the Saddam Hussein regime had admitted to the inspectors. Kamel publicly revealed the concealment of WMD-related activities in an interview with CNN (9/21/95): "The order was to hide much of it from the start, and we hid a lot of that information. These were not individual acts of concealment, but were as a result of direct orders from the top." So the fact that Saddam Hussein was attempting to deceive the weapons inspectors, as in ABC's tape, is hardly news more than 10 years later.

But ABC's story does not include what was arguably Kamel's more important revelation, which was that Iraq had destroyed its stocks of usable unconventional weapons. "Iraq does not possess any weapons of mass destruction," he told CNN in 1995. He told the same story to U.N. and U.S. officials, saying that by destroying the weapons in the summer of 1991, Saddam Hussein hoped to conceal how far Iraq had gotten in developing weapons, with the intent of restarting these programs after the inspection regime was ended.

Hussein Kamel was lured back to Iraq in 1996, where he was almost immediately killed by Saddam Hussein's forces. But when the Bush administration began gearing up for war with Iraq in 2002, it found that selective citation of Kamel's testimony could be very helpful in making its case. Vice President Dick Cheney asserted in an August 2002 speech (8/26/02) that the Iraqi regime had been "very busy enhancing its capabilities in the field of chemical and biological agents," and continued "to pursue the nuclear program they began many years ago." To back this up these claims, Cheney added, "We've gotten this from the firsthand testimony of defectors, including Saddam's own son-in-law"—a reference to Kamel.

In a Chicago Tribune op-ed (9/10/02), former head of the U.N. weapons inspection team Scott Ritter pointed out that Cheney had left out a critical part of Kamel’s story:

Throughout his interview with UNSCOM, a U.N. special commission, Hussein Kamel reiterated his main point—that nothing was left. "All chemical weapons were destroyed," he said. "I ordered destruction of all chemical weapons. All weapons—biological, chemical, missile, nuclear—were destroyed."

Nevertheless, the administration continued to selectively use Kamel's disclosures to bolster its case that Iraq had hidden stockpiles of banned weapons. "It took years for Iraq to finally admit that it had produced four tons of the deadly nerve agent, VX," then-Secretary of State Colin Powell said in his February 5, 2003 speech to the U.N. "The admission only came out after inspectors collected documentation as a result of the defection of Hussein Kamel, Saddam Hussein's late son-in-law." Powell did not note that Kamel had also reported that this nerve gas, along with all other such weapons, had been destroyed years earlier (Extra!, 5-6/03).

Shortly before the invasion of Iraq began, Newsweek (3/3/03) obtained the transcript of Kamel's 1995 debriefing by officials from UNSCOM, the U.N. inspections team, as well as the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). It published Kamel's key statement from that transcript: "All weapons—biological, chemical, missile, nuclear—were destroyed." Newsweek reported that Kamel told the same story to the CIA, but his account had been "hushed up." Shortly thereafter, the complete transcript of Kamel's discussions with inspectors was made public by Cambridge University's Glen Rangwala.

As FAIR noted shortly after the Newsweek report (FAIR Media Advisory, 2/27/03), this crucial information went largely unreported in the mainstream media. Three years later, that is still the case. Instead of this critical context—which frankly undermines the importance of the network's "exclusive"—ABC opted for political speculation. The network's report quotes Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.): "From reading some of the transcripts, you would think that it's pretty likely that there were WMD that were hidden or that were moved out of the country." By omitting countervailing information, ABC is in effect bolstering such ill-informed claims.

Nightline anchor Terry Moran asserted that the tapes ABC aired made an important contribution to our understanding of the Iraq controversy: "Without question, these tapes will shed new light on the debate over the war and on Saddam's future." If ABC's report is any indication, that debate will continue to ignore inconvenient facts about what was really known before the war about Iraq's weapons.

ACTION: Contact ABC and ask why its reports citing an Iraqi official to bolster the idea that Iraq had WMDs failed to mention that the same official told weapons inspectors that Iraq's weapons stockpiles were destroyed in 1991.

ABC World News Tonight
Phone: 212-456-4040

ABC Nightline
Phone: 202-222-7000

2/17/2006 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous free speech- our life's blood! said...

And Nevermind the `Nam baiter- who knows who or why would stoop to such obvious chicanery... don't fall for their trap...

BUT- I wouldn't be too proud about "shouting down" Sheehan... whatever her personal flaws, she knows BushCo. is always on some sort of bullshit- why don't most of you by now? Shouting down anybody = "Down with the USA", up with fascism! At least SOME here would DEFEND any scoundrels right to sound off, not DISCOURAGE it...

As POLICE we are SWORN to BATTLE the RULE of the MOB... maybe some here abdicate that RESPONSIBILITY, nay, ADVOCATE MOB RULE??!


There will NEVER be ANY better time than NOW, the beloved PRESENT, to ADVOCATE/PROTECT UNFETTERED FREE SPEECH ! ! !

WAKE the F-U-C-K UP, SOLDIERS! That's what you FOUGHT for, to SECURE that RIGHT, NOT DIMINISH IT ! ! ! Otherwise the U.S. is just another brawny THUG- NOTHING MORE!

I dream of America as the "Jesus Christ" of the Globe; doing GOOD WORKS! I hate us seen as the Jeff Fort/Larry Hoover/Al Capone/Tony Montana/Neo-Columbus/Ponce DeLeon writ LARGE we are slouching toward... Growth and Development, in word and deed these days... tragic!

I hope there's a G-d keeping track of our current leaders sins- for the Wages of Sin are DEATH- and ETERNAL DAMNATION in HELLFIRE (Isn't the Shrub supposed to read the Good Book? Is it THAT open to "interpretation"???

Here's to our country rediscovering it's MORAL CENTER and LEADING the PLANET in GOOD FAITH, not CAPTURING IT out of AVARICE!


Beware the "IDES of MARCHING" on MORE SOVEREIGN Nations...!

- " Et Tu, S.C.C. ... ? ? ? "

2/17/2006 11:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


2/17/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous zero my hero! ;-) said...

Nice Comeback (not!)

As Ditka once said...





Z-E-R-O ! ! !

(But I defend to the death your right to say basically nothing! You're a brave one- I salute you (middle digit- G.F.Y.! ;-)

2/17/2006 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


2/18/2006 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

Perhaps he lied in before because Saddam would have had him SHOT and his family SHOT and everyone else SHOT if he told anyone that Saddam kept his WMD ability and precursors? Maybe?

2/25/2006 12:00:00 AM  

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