Wednesday, March 15, 2006

Red Light Cameras Illegal?

For the second time in 8 months, a remote camera program has been made illegal, in this case because the city couldn't prove who was driving the car and merely assigning guilt to the owner of the license plate. Granted, this judge was sitting in Minnesota and their camera program seems to be a different version of the one in Chicago that tries to snap a picture of the driver AND the plate, but if a persuasive argument could be made that the driver of a vehicle is unidentifiable, we cannot see how these tickets would stand in court (well, actually we could - this is Cook County after all).

In July of last year, the Virginia legislature refused to re-authorize their camera act, in part because an outside agency was collecting money on what is essentially a government function.

Anyone want to volunteer to be the guinea pig?

58 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can tell you that those cameras are not true.....

I got a letter in the mail that my car went through a red light..
on a date and time I was at work

I tried to contest it but I had to goto a hearing with a hearing officer...so I took the day off work (I'm not a cop) and went down and gave my story. they showed me a picture of a car that was not mine with a black guy driving..and a licence plate that was not mine..the plate was off by the last letter.
In the picture it looked like the car had some damage on it which caused the licence plate to be bent up and the car only had one plate...so someone tried to guess at the last letter on the plate and they guessed wrong...

well the hearing officer dismissed the ticket...but should I have to go through all that trouble ?
NO!

I would much rather get a ticket from a cop in-person...at least
if I act right I could get a break...

3/15/2006 07:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Avoid the nuisance of red light cameras. Check www.PhantomPlate.com

"PhotoBlocker" aerosol spray is invisible to the naked eye.

$30 plus S+H It will cover at least eight rear plates. Chip in with seven friends and order a can for about $4 per rear plate.

3/15/2006 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The web-site for Phantom Blocker says it only covers four plates per can. So, it's about $7.50 a plate.

Still, well worth it, if it works.

I'm gonna try.

3/15/2006 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The red light camera tickets have a $90 fine. I'm getting a can I don't blow red lights but I sometimes go through a yellow. Who needs the hassle?

The site says that the sprayed plates were checked by the Denver Police. It works.

3/15/2006 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm gonna try a really cool idea to avoid these tickets...slow down and not blow the red lights. Anyone think that might work?

3/15/2006 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These cameras on nothing short of government sponsered extortion...

3/15/2006 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on folks, we all know someday in the near future, a class action law suit is gonna make WE the taxpayers pay through the nose

3/15/2006 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, you cops are all crying because the red light camera got you! Learn to obey traffic laws dummies! This red light camera system is a great idea. Welcome to the world of the regular Joe, COP!

3/15/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets all start writing the cars with the tint covers on the plates!

3/15/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not and say we did.

3/15/2006 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm gonna try a really cool idea to avoid these tickets...slow down and not blow the red lights. Anyone think that might work?

3/15/2006 08:50:13 AM

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That desn't always work. What if the guy infront of you is really busy picking his nose at the time and makes you wait. He wakes up and zooms thru, you try to keep up, but it turns "red" while *your* rear bumper was still in the intersection.

Why should I loose $90 for someone else's mistake........??

3/15/2006 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just ordered the spray from www.PhantomPlate.com. 3 cans for $59.95 no shipping

3/15/2006 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sergeants getting sworn in today at 1300 Hrs....also Command changes comming today or tomorrow

3/15/2006 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger DaleyforMCCguest said...

There is a live feed in each of those red light camera boxes that goes to OEMC and may be monitored or recorded. Just something to keep in mind. The reflective spray on covering works by reflecting the flash back to the camera and making your numbers unreadable. The live feed is recording before the flash goes and IF they wanted to, getting your plate from the other camera is possible.Best bet is to slow down.

3/15/2006 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous armed CPD retiree said...

Does the City still have Gun Registration? If so, why?

3/15/2006 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the average IQ of the chronic masturbators that must routinely monitor those camera screens?

It would be a foolproof cure for insomnia.

3/15/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Came in from Wrigleyville last night off the Red Line, and was waiting on the platform at the Roosevelt stop for the Orange Line into Midway last night.

Camera going off numerous times!!

Was trying to see if you get snapped while you're waiting to turn when the light is yellow? Or is it just when it's red?????

This camera was very busy last night around 6pm.

3/15/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought 2 cans of OPTICAL ILLUSION SPRAY. When the camera takes a picture of your license plate, the plate doesn't show up but the words "DALEY SUCKS" does.

All for 25 easy payments of $1999.99.

www.DALEYSUCKS.com

3/15/2006 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous sue Chicago said...

The State of Connecticut has settled a First Amendment lawsuit in U.S. District Court brought by state trooper Mark Lauretano for retaliation for responsibly exercising his First Amendment rights in commenting on a matter of public concern.

Settlement: $450,000.00

3/15/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous completely off topic said...

Do we REALLY need "Welcome Back Kotter, The Movie", starring ICE CUBE as Mr. Kotter?!?!?!?!?

And "Back To School" starring Cedric The Entertainer in Rodney Dangerfield's old role????

I can't believe they are making these! Wasn't the "urban revisualization of the Honeymooners" enough?

What the fuck, people? Is nothing Sacred?

Perhaps Hollywood will give us a remake of Dirty Harry starring Dave Chapelle next!

3/15/2006 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anybody has the list of the new seargents assignments, could they please post it. Thanks

3/15/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The black Kojack was another great one...........

3/15/2006 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey blacks are peeple too. NOT!

3/15/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:35:05 F U...come put in your shift on the street tough guy..and then cry foul about us ..FN civy
whats the number to your lawyer? better call him for help and not 911..

3/15/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't this violate the Constitution some how. Everyone is entitled to equal protection under the law. And if you for example you have a TEMP plate that is not reflective, or an IN temp plate which is normally mounted in the window, I would assume that the camera would not be able to snap a photo of the plate. So following that logic the photo enforcement is unable to fairly capture all the scofflaws and should be stopped. Just and idea....not sure if it will work.

3/15/2006 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews curfews solve crime

3/15/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The union we pay so much money for should pick up the lawsuit and sue the city. I mean those cameras replace P.O.'s that could write them and identify them in court.

3/15/2006 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh and what about double jeopardy. If I see a car that i want to stop, which runs the red light and has its photo taken and I end up finding a pistol in the car, couldn't the off. say there is an issue with getting a photo in the mail and a ticket from a copper?

3/15/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can easily form a Deleware corporation to hold the title of your car. Make your dog, cat, hamster and goldfish the corporate officers.

Bust all the red lights you want and let the fucking camera figure out who was driving! Fuck Daley the extortionist!

3/15/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Radar says' Stop those red light cameras and photo speed cameras, you will eliminate our jobs. We like the old fashon way, 1 on 1.

3/15/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

phase I complete

commence phase II

3/15/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
oh and what about double jeopardy. If I see a car that i want to stop, which runs the red light and has its photo taken and I end up finding a pistol in the car, couldn't the off. say there is an issue with getting a photo in the mail and a ticket from a copper?

3/15/2006 01:21:39 PM"

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The Camera Ticket will be dismissed. The personal service citation takes precedence.

3/15/2006 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sergeants assignments are out.

Go find your own copy, I'm not typing all that shit!

Welcome to 009, Sgt. Hitney! I'm sure you won't be here very long.

3/15/2006 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW!! SILLY COPPER! Just obey the traffic laws like everybody else. Or enjoy your ticket!

3/15/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Love Bush Hotline said...

THIS JUST IN.....

A certain Sgt. just re-shaved her love patch into the number "9". In dedication to he new assignment. It is now I wish we had a 69th District.

3/15/2006 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the deal with the crime scene on the 5400 W. Berenice?

3/15/2006 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/15/2006 02:43:40 PM:

No one wants you here, you are not part of us. Go jerk off somewhere else.

3/15/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical cops, they cry when they get caught running the red light. Ha! Ha! welcome to the world of the regular Joe! Now that badge don't mean sh*t. Oink! Oink!

3/15/2006 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need a drunk-o-matic camera light to catch off-duty drunken cops driving. It will detect alcohol on the drivers of cars. 501's by mail! We could call it the Cozzi System.

3/15/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about we make a shaft movie starring Pee Wee herman????

3/15/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just talked to the 16th coppers,,5400 berenice,(polish)man was breaking out car windows and was found naked on the porch,,cut off his own penis and threw it at the police,,(no shit,this really happened)they tased him, they made report for criminal damage to property,,not sure if that was for breaking out car windows,or cutting off his man-hood off..i still love this job..the circus is a everyday event.

3/15/2006 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just talked to the 16th coppers,,5400 berenice,(polish)man was breaking out car windows and was found naked on the porch,,cut off his own penis and threw it at the police,,(no shit,this really happened)they tased him, they made report for criminal damage to property,,not sure if that was for breaking out car windows,or cutting off his man-hood off..i still love this job..the circus is a everyday event.

3/15/2006 04:07:36 PM
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Aparrently, just prior to commiting these actions, the man had dared to look SEISER directly in the eyes, causing him to go completely insane in a matter of seconds.

Who says nothing exciting ever happens in 016?

3/15/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard that some civilians were getting revenge on the red light cameras by hooding up and painting over the lenses with a can of spray paint on a piece of pipe.

INGENIOUS LITTLE BASTARDS!

Oh and one thing they don't tell you is that the city can shorten the yellow time as much as they want.

I want to know what campaign contributions the camera makers made.

3/15/2006 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is Chicago Police so affraid to chase bad guys. Like the attempt car jacking offenders who were spotted driving a hot car on the northside? What does our tax money pay for?

3/15/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who destroys red light cameras will get out of jail for free! Give these brave lads a pass!

3/15/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In referance to the 5400 block of Bernice Ave. What happened is true. But take note. Prior to police arrivial, he broke into house, took all the knives he could find and as he was headind out the front door for the second time, he began to throw the knives at the police. By this time a sgt. was off to his side and tased him, causing his penis to flop out of his hand and go down the front stairs like a slinky. Dude was transported to Illinois Masonic and then taken to Northwester Hospital to have a add-a-dick-to-me operation performed.
Un-fucking real...but it's true.

3/15/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is Chicago Police so affraid to chase bad guys. Like the attempt car jacking offenders who were spotted driving a hot car on the northside? What does our tax money pay for?

3/15/2006 05:55:04 PM

You really have no idea what the hell you are talking about, do you?

3/15/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That guy went nuts trying to find 016 worthless police after calling them all night.Thats the only way to get 016 police to respond to calls????? You 016 coppers are a fuckin joke.

3/15/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have an idea....put only black cops in black neighborhoods, then they can start blaming their own kind...TYPICAL

3/15/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wtf!? what time on berenice?

3/15/2006 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No 6:16 you are the fuckin joke!!!!

3/15/2006 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That total blowjob, fuckface without a life that runs http://morsehellhole.blogspot.com/
made all thes shitty posts today!

3/15/2006 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

0555
I as a taxpayer don't feel like getting involved in an accident with " attempt carjacking offender" I'm not afraid of the police in high speed chases as I am the offender driving to get away and the civilians who won't obey the rules of the road when it comes to emergency vehicles passing thru. I am paying taxes so that we hire folks with some common sense, I don't want to see myself or some officer get hurt over a stolen fricking car! Thats why I pay car insurance, a car can be replaced.

3/15/2006 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andy Dakuras may be a Sergeant but he is still a BONER

3/15/2006 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 3/15/2006 08:36:15 PM,

Keep paying your insurance. However, there are many white, black, and hispanic persons who work everyday and can barely afford "liabilty only" auto insurance. They don't live in Depaul-Sheffield with the fruits, and they don't live in Ravenswood with the fruits, and since we went on steady watches thirteen years ago anyone on the third and first watches don't see them either. They're barricaded in their homes after 1600 hrs. when Bobby Rush's constituents have run of the streets.

My point is that not everyone drives a 330xi or a Landrover. And when seventeen-year-old duke peels the column on their twelve-year-old Cutlass Ceira and burns it after taking the rims these families might be set back for an entire year after replacing their $3500.00 beater. Naturally, weigh the police purpose during a pursuit. Don't get killed. I would prefer to shoot he pricks after they crash and flee from the hot car. When we were still a civilized society we did just that! There was a consequence associated with criminal behavior.

Remember, the general order that changed guidlines during a vehicle pursuit was changed during the tenure of the most corrupt superintendent in recent memory. Property crimes do count.
Lite 'em up at first chance. They got to make you meritorious something or other after the dicks straighten it all up! Alright, so I'm typing tonight after three margaritas...

3/15/2006 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what happened dickhead, did you get rejected during the hiring process??? are you an unemployed loser? Do you sit in an office all day and read OUR blog and wish you could be the police. You sure sound like it. Too bad. Maybe someday you can be the police too. NOT

3/17/2006 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that was directed to 05:55:04 by the way

3/17/2006 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy shit, I thought you were talking about me! I'm now out of limes and I started on the bottle of Yellow Tail my wife opened to help her through dinner alone with the kids! I don't take criticism well-so I hide behind the 92FS and a stack of old Playboys we hid in the office!

3/17/2006 01:18:00 AM  

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