Sergeant Test
Any good stories about the test? Is the next Sergeant of Police reading this blog today? Well, probably not THE next sergeant off the new list because they're still supposed to make one more class off the old list. But maybe the class after that.
Personally, we think we aced it.
Personally, we think we aced it.
posted by SCC at 4:20 PM
160 Comments:
Test was not as easy as other tests but it certainly was not hard
Doesnt matter. The ass kissers have ya beat no matter what.
Who knows over slept, hahah I guess its 15+ years on the bt. car.
Lost interest yr's. ago, guess it's 20 yrs. of viewing.
Any more info on another class? I know people, who know people in Personnel and they were at the test sites. I'd be amazed that no one asked about it. It would be appreciated. Det's class the week of the third.
Merit Sgt. SB in 004 headin to SOS.....how many manloads from the housing clown can one guy swallow?
I think you aced part one of the test too, SCC.
The problem is...Everyone aces part one of the test.
5,000+ take the test, only about 400 fail it. (Must make sure our "merit" guys pass part one, or they can't be promoted by merit).
I would love to know how they decide the passing score for part one.
I hear passing is 50% and above. That should be easy enough for the clout babies.
Heard that a guy from 10 had a grabber during the test, if so say a prayer that he's ok.
Well, yeah, everyone aces part 1 - at least part one of the last Lieutenants exam. What was it, 700 took it and 700 passed?
The passing score is determined by the dumbest boss's kid. Everyone dumber than him or her better hope for a miracle.
A little over twenty years ago then Secretary of Education Willliam Bennett described the Chicago Public School system as the most failed system in the nation. Yet even today this most failed school system requires as score of seventy-percent to pass any given course matter. Not so for the Chicago Police Department, which now requires an incredible fifty-five percent right, or less, on a the Part 1 written examination, thus enabling ward healers to promote morons into the supervisory ranks. You saw the results of this process strutting around the halls of Lane Tech this morning. Another thousand years of evolution won't change them, neither will meritorious promotions.
The tests are rigged to benefit the city's agenda, to act as a people pleaser. There are minorities on this job that are offended by the issue of saying a score was lowered to make it appear they are not smart enough to pass. Natch, if your going to get promoted who the hell is going to turn it down? None of us. I know the arguements, we still get to blame the Pol's and their own greed.
Nepotism is a major problem in Chicago and always has been. How do you clean that up? So regardless if you have sense or not, whether your qualified or not, you go to the top. This has screwed the dept., to an all time low, on top of the above issue's.
The player's in city hall are playing back biting games to advance their own agenda's. The old Vote's and We Rule Mentality!
The passing score is the lowest ass-clown-with-clout test score. Why do you think it takes a month to "figure" out the results. A scantron sheet can be graded in seconds. It would take a day tops to grade and print out all of the letters to your house with the results. I know many people that work at Ernst and Young LLC(Proctored and made up the test)
How many cops does it take to throw a man down the stairs???
None. He fell.
A policeman is on scene at a terrible accident - body parts everywhere. He is making his notes of where the pieces are and comes across a head.
He writes in his notebook: "Head on bullevard" and scratchs out his spelling error.
"Head on bouelevard" Nope, doesn't look right - scratch scratch.
"Head on boolevard..." dang it! Scratch scratch.
He looks around and sees that no one is looking at him as he kicks the head.
"Head on curb."
A squad car driver was covering a quiet beat out in the sticks when he was amazed to find a former lieutenant on the police force covering the beat.
He stopped the car and asked, "Why, Irish Mike, this wouldn't be your new beat out here in the sticks, would it?"
"That it is, "Irish Mike replied grimly, "ever since I arrested the judge on his way to the masquerade ball."
"You mean you pinched his honor?" asked Pat.
"How was I to know that his convict suit was only a costume?" demanded Mike.
"Well," mused Pat, "there's a lesson in this somewhere."
"That there is," replied Irish Mike...." 'Tis wise never to book a judge by his cover."
Remember on Part II to write the following at the bottom, regardless of the questions. If the test asks "What color is grass?", write in...
"NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER"
I'd personally like to thank the city for fucking up the test and wasting my precious time. After spending fifteen minutes double checking the Incident reporting guide for the answer to the dog fighting question, my proctor (who was a hot little blonde cooze) said that the question was fucked up.
I also wrote " I am taking this test under duress" on the top. If I am unlucky enough to get promoted out of the Detective Division, I'll at least get my 25 bucks back, and maybe be able to fuck some hot PPOS when they come into a district.
Also, if "dude's" answer key next to me was any indication of overall performance, SOME people will NEVER get promoted.
Oh -- and I loved shitting at Gangbanger Tech. No doors on the stalls.
Dick Trickle works SVU and diddles his victims.
What is with all the Sgt's leaving 017? Transfer order had at least 5 or 6 leaving.
How about I had to be there at 1230. Sat around until 1350 then they finally put us in our classes. Didn't start until 1415. Finished the first part in an hour and then sat around watching everyone else sit around for over an hour. What a waste of time!
The dog fighting question was fucked up with some other poorly constructed questions.
You know what makes this test so legit too-LOL. The department doesn’t take the first and second part’s score and add them to get a grand total and then you are ranked. Not only does this department perpetuate mediocrity, it embraces it.
anyone know the answer about the 125 dollar dog house that was burned
The test was pretty much what I expected. Mostly good questions, some not-so-good. I guess we'll all pretty much pass. Anyone hear anything about a NWside Capt who turned down a Cmdr spot?
What answer did you put for the question about the 75 year old guy that stole the gum. I put lock him up based on the store owner's request.......
clout baby said...
Remember on Part II to write the following at the bottom, regardless of the questions. If the test asks "What color is grass?", write in...
"NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER"
3/25/2006 06:26:44 PM
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I thought I was suppose to write:
"I AM THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S KID"
Anonymous said...
anyone know the answer about the 125 dollar dog house that was burned
3/25/2006 06:41:48 PM
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"RESIDENTAL ARSON"
Not arson cause it was under $150, Not agg, cause well y know.
The $125 dollar value of the dog house was a red herring, not a mistake. Therefore the best answer might have been agg. arson in that "property of another" means any property, whether real or personal... I might be in the doghouse myself with my best guess, but I chose agg. arson.
But a doghouse, although personal property, is not a dwelling. Therefore, can't be residential arson.
It's agg arson. A HOUSE OR STRUCTURE ADJACENT TO a dwelling or home.
I think it was arson-a bad question but technically a dog house is real property...something built in a fixed place...nailed down, dug in etc. If it's burnable it's permanenet enough to be real property regardless of cost. Sh**ty question though.
Let's not dwell on that question. It was worded wrong and will be tossed out. Next question.
Agg would require someone to be able to be in the doghouse. Just Arson.
75 year old guy question---fill out case report and have victim get summons---
The doghouse question is agg arson---it stated any property, inlcuding real property valued at over $150----two different things---real property and property valued over $150---does not have anything to do with someone being in the house
You a doctor? How do you know he is senile? Lock his ass up!!!
I didn't take the test, but from what I read about this "dog house arson" case - in order to charge AGG. ARSON, you must knowingly damage any building or structure (you have this), AND - I repeat - AND - know that someone is present within (or reasonably should know) or any person suffers great bodily harm etc., or a police officer or firefighter is injured in the coourse of performing his duties. Based on what I read here - your choice is definitley arson, not aggravated.
After I finished part 1, I had about 1.25 hours to daydream. So I was looking at the walls of the classroom (Steinmetz H.S.) and It took me back to my days in grammar school..the crayon drawings on the walls, the colored construction paper designs that adorned the walls, etc..When SHIT, IT HIT MY SUBLIMINAL..That's why Chicago is so FUCKED-UP, this is high school, NOT Grammar school!
These gang-banging, high school fucks today, are doing in high school..what I was doing in 4th-6th grade.
Bottom line is my grammar school education from 30+ years ago has served me better than a high school education would today!
Another thing..Those desks seemed spacious 30 years ago..Next test that comes around "The Brass" will have to make some special accomodations (like sitting us at tables in the lunch room) for us old FAT asses that won't be able to wedge ourselves into those desks made for 100 lb. kids!
Officer B J says, I passed and will be made soon. Did not have to study at all, just show up. #1 again.
7:23 stands corrected...i meant to say arson
It was nice waiting almost an hour and a half to get to take the test. My room did not start until 1430 hrs. Did anyone else notice that the no cell phone or pager rule was not enforced. The F/1 next to me had her cell phone and it was ringing in her purse. She also went to the bathroom 2 times during the test. The dog fighting question was bad and a couple of those questions dealt with things we, in the CPD, do not deal with.
any other opinions on the 75 year old gum thief?
``It is called discretion and I don't think the question was looking for the "lock his ass up response." They are looking for judgement....they told you he was senile....do you DUI everyone you pull over who is high or shitfaced?
I talked the clerk out of it.
according to 720 ILCS 5/21-1(1)(b)
Criminal damage to property
a person commmits an illegal act when he: recklessly by means of fire or explosive damages property of another THAT WAS A BS QUESTION-THEY DIDNT GIVE US THE RIGHT ANSWER AS ONE OF THE CHOICES!!!
good idea to talk clerk out of it....but if you give him a case report and see how serious he is about locking an old guy up for a pack of gum, then you have done your job and put the ball in the clerk's court.
HEY YOU GUYS!
JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING UP AN OBSERVATION I MADE AS ALL OF US SGT. HOPEFULS WAITED TO TAKE THE CITY'S VERSION OF AN ACADEMIC BRAIN BUSTER HELD AT LANE TECH. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE RIDICULOUS AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THEM FOR SOME TIME.
DESPITE THE OBVIOUS CLOUT QUESTIONS I OBSERVED SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT INTEREST SOME OF YOU.
IT SEEMED APPARENT TO ME THAT IF "JAMAL" THE TERRORIST WANTED TO MAKE A MARK FOR HIMSELF IN THIS CITY'S AND END UP WITH 70 BITCHES IN THE AFTERLAND ALL HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO WAS MONITOR THE WELL PUBLICIZED NOTIFICATION OF THE SERGEANTS'TEST AND LOCATIONS AND PLACE A CAR WITH EXPLOSIVES IN THE PARKING LOT. AT LANE TECH WITH THE MISMANAGED SYSTEM OF PARKING AND THE LINE THAT FOLLOWED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY.
WAS THERE ANY KIND OF SECURITY ANYWHERE AROUND TO OBSERVE THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR? I CERTAINLY DIDN'T SEE ANY.
REALITY: WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAVE BEEN INJURED AT 1230 HOURS AT LANE TECH WHEN THE EARLY TESTERS MET THE AFTERNOON TESTERS IF "HABIB" HAD BEEN THERE?
IT'S NO WONDER THERE WAS NO QUESTION ON THE EXAM RELATING TO THE TERRORIST AND WMD GENERAL ORDERS ON THE READING LIST !
NO ONE KNOWS WHY THE TEST HAD TO BE HELD EXCUSIVELY ON THE NORTH SIDE BUT AT LEAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE "WE" WOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED "HABIB" IF HE WAS IN THE AREA AND PERHAPS BEEN ABLE TO STOP A TRAVESTY FROM OCCURRING.
THANK TO HABIB FOR DROPPING THE BALL!!!
I talked the clerk out of it. My reasoning was the old man would need intent to commit the theft. He has demensia, therefore intent would be a reaching a bit.
Just my 2cents
cortez trotter promoted my ass. city hall promotion just to satify fire dept. they now have an in house family member /hispanic , move trotter over to keep blacks happy just starting his election crap early making his moves . it's not checkers it's CHESS.
I dont think a terrorist would go after that type of target. Too many guns. Better for them to walk right into a mall strapped with explosives undetected. No security. Biiger hit for them. Im waiting for some Haji to blow up the Chicago Ridge mall
You know that the media would not givea rats ass about us taking a test and gettin blown up.
do the bosses kids still get the tests ahead of time........i think that is more fucked up then the merit promotions.....at least you admit your dumb.....the other assholes walk around like they earned it...
Anonymous said...
Agg would require someone to be able to be in the doghouse. Just Arson.
3/25/2006 07:16:08 PM
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It's NOT arson. Arson requires $150 or more of dmg. Q stated dog house was valued at $125.
Anonymous said...
``It is called discretion and I don't think the question was looking for the "lock his ass up response." They are looking for judgement....they told you he was senile....do you DUI everyone you pull over who is high or shitfaced?
3/25/2006 08:14:12 PM
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Oh I forgot that is was a SERGEANT test. If some dumbnut PO cant 19P it himself, he's going to write paper. I didn't read in the study guide that it was a Sgt's job to help PO's get out of sitty jobs.
do we still do wants temporary or not?
Hey 9:01----give em what they want and maybe you won't be a PO the rest of your career
Anonymous said...
I talked the clerk out of it.
3/25/2006 08:18:15 PM
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Give this person stripes NOW!
6:38
DOESN'T SURPRISE ME ALL THE SGT.'S ARE LEAVING 017. SGT. McMURRAY JUST GOT THERE. LET ME GUESS...STILL ONE WAY GEORGE?. WAY TO GO!!! STILL MAKING FRIENDS, I SEE.
(720 ILCS 5/20‑1) (from Ch. 38, par. 20‑1)
Sec. 20‑1. << Arson>> .
A person commits << arson>> when, by means of fire or explosive, he knowingly:
(a) Damages any real property, or any personal property having a value of $150 or more, of another without his consent; or
(b) With intent to defraud an insurer, damages any property or any personal property having a value of $150 or more.
Property "of another" means a building or other property, whether real or personal, in which a person other than the offender has an interest which the offender has no authority to defeat or impair, even though the offender may also have an interest in the building or property.
(c) Sentence.
<< Arson>> is a Class 2 felony.
(Source: P. A. 77‑2638.)
Hope you can talk yourself out of a CR number for not locking up gum thief after the clerk told you he wanted him locked up. Senile guy is gonna keep playing the mental card, hope he don't burglarize your house.
Locking him up is the obvious answer....and I don't think the store clerk demand that he be locked up did he?
It's sad to think that we must discuss what we shouold do with the Felony gun thief job.
1st
The beat car should slap Patel for bothering him with nonsense.
2nd
Drive the old guy home.
3rd
If you do call for a Sgt. you're gonna have to take a report. And if you have a report the best way to save the old guy from sitting with the gang bangers in the lockup and not jam yourself up is to tell Patel to get a summons. Like someone said earlier your not a Doctor and obviously Patel wants Police action.
If the guty really is senile, then there is not intent in the first place.
Well I guess I should have expected the usual, but I thought it was made clear that no cell phones, beverages, or bags were allowed. Me, foolishly thinking that only professionals were taking the SGT. test would read and follow the clearly posted instructions on the enterence form like I did, and most others. As I sat at my desk waiting to start the test in walked a F/1 with her cell phone to her ear having a loud conversation and at the same time checking in with the proctor who then informed her that cell phones are not allowed at which time she replied, "sorry darling." About one hour into the test a hip-hop type song began to ring-out through our testing room for a good 15 seconds. As we all looked at each other a different F/1 reached into her bag that was on the floor next to her, pulled out her cell phone and said, "sorry guys." She then had to leave the room to take the call. I also noticed that she has a nice big bottle of water on her desk. Foolish me, I left my bottle water and cell phone in my car like the instructions said! I guess I should have expected the usual!
F/1 reached into her bag that was on the floor next to her, pulled out her cell phone and said, "sorry guys." She then had to leave the room to take the call. I also noticed that she has a nice big bottle of water on her desk. Foolish me, I left my bottle water and cell phone in my car like the instructions said! I guess I should have expected the usual!
3/25/2006 10:08:17 PM
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Rules don't apply to them. Never had-- never Will.
I hope 35th St can organize a secret study group for her for the 2nd part...............!
It'll be a "one on one" study group with Dana. He keeps his plantation freshly stocked.
WTF?
NO CELL PHONES should have been allowed in there!!
Anyone w/cell should have been disqualified!
Nothing like text message or making/getting a call to get your questions answered!
WAY TO GO
Discuss some of the questions on the test that you remember and maybe we can somehow figure out a way for the right answers.
Example: John beat up 62 year old neighbor
a) Battery
B) Agg Batt
C)Agg Batt senior citizen.
I thought Agg Batt.
Order of protection 14-21 days?
A)emergency
b)interim
c)plenary
Answer:emergency
If everybody helps with a question we can get a good idea on our scores
Notification for an order of protection>
Answer 10 days
Johnny breaks into a car and steals radio'
Answer: Burglary
Who watches juvenile when dick doesnt show>
Answer: Desk Sgt
When do you print a juvenile for a Class A misd
Answer: Everytime arrested
POs lump an offender how may TRRs
Answer: Every PO involved completes a TRR.
How old can a newborn be before relinquishment>
Answer> 72 hours
Hey guys help me out on some of these so we can get a ballpark figure on our grade>
I got one better:
M/1 allowed into class room late,
has to borrow a pencil,
he forgot his
?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Show up at at Sgt test w/o a penicil???????
al i can say is : TYPICAL
My test proctor was 15 years old and did not speak English very well. He also was having a very hard time reading. I was just happy he didn't stutter.
my answer to the $125 dog house.
agg arson
why: It states, in the course of committing arson he knowingly damages, partially or totally, ANY building or structure, including AJACENT building or structure and he knows or reasonably should know that one or more people are present therein. So my figuring was that the dog house was a structure next to the RESIDENCE that had people in it. So if a crazy nut sets fire to a detached garage in the backyard while the people are in the residence 20ft away eating dinner. its aggravated.
Just my 2 cents
Agg Battery of senior citizen. Anytime a battery happens of a person of 60 makes it a agg battery
any more off old list for Sgts.
how far have they gone and will they go?
Next Sgts. class???
Number of hours a temporary want stays in LEADS?
Want in Leads Answer: book says 48hrs.
if u stop guy with want?
Answer: Place into custody.
How about the female stops guy with bulge in pocket.
I put call 4 a male PO
How about the DUI question? What is the answer Ill residents
dead or unconscious or all drivers
wasn't there a GO canceling the use of "temp Wants" and reclassifying them as investigative alerts? As far as I am concerned that’s a toss out question.
72 hrs.?
my bad its still there GO 01-02 II-C its 48hrs
shit!
I thought the reporting guide stated a battery to a senior had to cause greivous bodily harm to the old buzzard to go as AGG BATT... a slap? I chose simple battery for that reason
There's a few too many 62 yr. old pricks still on this job that could use a good slap if ya ax me! It's not battery, it's a wake-up call: retire already!
I think most of you screwed up the dog house question. A dog house is personal property, not real property, generally its value is less than $150.00 but it could be more but more importantly it is not designed to house people. Best answer would be Criminal Damage to Property. Think of it as a detached structure, such as a garage w/o the value. The $125.00 was deliberately placed in the question to get the dog house out of the arson category. So simple yet so far away.
Don't know what the answer was to the old man who stole the gum but it really sounds like a bad question. OTOH if you brought me an old man like think for approval based on these sets of facts, I'd really be pissed. You, not the clerk, are the police - you are not trained attack dogs who jump into action just because someone yells attack, if your gut says that this is not a proper arrest situation, don't make the arrest, advise warrants, or issue an ANOV if you can (I know its theft so you can't here, but perhaps in other situations.) All that will happen once I get the arrest report is that I will release the guy w/o charges, ream you a new one, and maybe send the guy to the hospital if we can't locate a relative. No way is this guy going to court!!!!!! Just my 2 cents.
Day guy (0838) made a legimate point about detonating an explosive-ladden vehicle at Lane Tech at about 1300 hrs taking out the test-taking morning shift and the test-waiting afternoon group. I think almost half of the department would hav been lost.
Yet, he should be condemned for his use of anti-Arab slurs in his tirade. I hope he is at the end of his career and not the beginning because of his bias against the Arab community.
When I took the 1985-88 sergeant's exam, it took 18 months to grade the first part/multi-choice portion.
I wonder how long this one will take.
MY PREDICTION: ALL TEST TAKERS PASS PHASE ONE: THE FIX IS IN............
POINT TO REMEMBER!!!!
THE FIRE FIGHTERS TEST ONLY REQUIRES A GED.
THIS TEST IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS FOR THE MERITS!!
THIS IS A BULLSHIT STEP.
THE REAL LIST WILL BE PHASE 2.
GOOD LUCK, YOU WILL NEED IT IF U DON'T HAVE CLOUT.
I loved the question about using blue ink for signatures on computer generated documents. was that a gimmie for the 35th street club? Who else needs to know this?
re: dog house arson.
they never said the residence was occupied.
proposal for establishing the "passing score" for the Sgt's test:
take 10 cadets from the most receint graduating class (random can be fixed, so lets say the 10 cadets with the highest star numbers), have them take the test, and average their scores. above that score is passing.
$1000 says their scores would be better then what the city establishes as the "passing score", which is to suggest that many of our "merit" Sgt's can't even supervise a PPO.
You should be an exempt by now, what an equation.
The Dog Fighting question was fucked up.
The Arson $125 doghouse question was fucked up.
The domestic eye-contact question was poorly worded.
What other ones should the FOP demand be tossed?
You are working BT 2510, sitting in your car at 5040 W. Fullerton eating a doubble pizza when you monitor a call of children held hostage in a burning building on the 4900 block of W. Dickens. As you respond to the scene, you observe the assigned car stop in front of the residence, exit the vehicle, and run into the burning house. Shortly there after, you hear numerous gun shots, followed by the officer leaving the house carrying 2 children over his shoulder. The officer informs you that as he entered the house, 3 men began shooting at him, and he fired upon them. You notice the officer is bleeding fron several locations about his arms and legs.
As a supervisor, what would be the most effective next step for you to take:
1) Inform the officer that he will receive a summmary punishment for failing to have his seatbelt on upon his arrival to the scene.
2) Inform the officer that he will receive a summary punishment for failing to notify OEMC of his weapon discharge in a timely manner.
3) You realize the officer is on BT 2520's log, return to your vehicle, and allow BT 2520 to take charge of the scene, once he leaves the station.
to 401 that is great....that should have been a question on the test...i would have picked all of the above
What the hell happened to the pizza? #3
Couldn't pick all of the above he failed to give us a fourth option. That was a trick question, right?
The bosses kids do not "get the test", that would be cheating. They get a special "study group" for the second part of the test. Its like in the academy when they read you the tests and then "wink,wink that would be a good answer". So in fact they don't really get the test, they are just told all the stuff thats on it and are told the answers so this way it can't be proved that they are given the test. This is FACT, just ask Matt, Wayne, Dan O'Shea, Christen and others that attended the invite only study group at 35th. for the last test. See you can't make 'em merit, then people might not "respect" them.
Seen many P.O.'s with 3 years on taking the test..God they need to raise the min. age for Sgt. atleast seven years.
Decease forthwith? You crack me up Malcolm with your use of the english verbage!!!
Dana,WTF does "decease forwith" mean? Are you talking ghettoesse again?
FYI, 025 had 1 Sgt. and 2 cars over at Steinmetz on directed patrol to ensure that you and your property were safe while you took the test.
6:48 (Malcolm) and 7:02 AM
You guys break me up!
First, 7:02: What the pretentious "African-American" who uses the moniker MXLB means is CEASE FORTHWITH which means STOP IMMEDIATELY.
"Decease(d)" refers to the DEAD. "Desist" means "stop". "Forthwith" is commonly used in the NYPD for "immediately" (like yesterday).
Malcolm. Your comments might be taken seriously if you would kindly CEASE FORTHWITH in your bombastic use of "African-American" and "European-American".
"Black" and "white" are perfectly respectful monosyllables. Use them and you will be less likely to come across as a pompous asshole.
The test has to to made easy because the minorities will claim the test has none of their values.
6:48 and 7:02
afront(sic) AFFRONT
verbage(sic) VERBIAGE
Continue with your cerebral repartee.
Hey "X"
Most whites on this job are not open minded, but they are realists and not afraid to call a DOG a DOG.
Whats the matter? Does the truth hurt???
Funny how they are only offended when it's the truth.
Forget the dam arson question already. What about question 69?
What are the necessary elements needed for a merit promotion?
A. Several sexual favors for a Deputy Chief.
B. Having a huge amount of wack.
C. Be a hard charging Police Officer with quality arrests(cases not thrown out in court), the respect of your peers, supervisors, and members of the community.
9:32
Is that a trick question?
Anonymous said...
Agg Battery of senior citizen. Anytime a battery happens of a person of 60 makes it a agg battery
3/26/2006 12:26:29 AM
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Only a slap and not gbh. Just simple battery
Don't know what the answer was to the old man who stole the gum but it really sounds like a bad question. OTOH if you brought me an old man like think for approval based on these sets of facts, I'd really be pissed. You, not the clerk, are the police - you are not trained attack dogs who jump into action just because someone yells attack, if your gut says that this is not a proper arrest situation,
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you guys are missing the point. THIS WAS A **TEST**! You are trying to answer like you are on the street = WRONG ANSWER. Would I really lock up an old retard for stealing gum? No. But I would on a test if he broke the law and there was a complainant that demanded it.
it was "arson"
implied consent applies to ALL drivers in Illinois.
$4000 id theft is notification by report
in an escape notify r/b/t/
according to the dc ordinanace you can picket outside church or school if it's a labor dispute
wait for sign language interpreter
veh thefts =cw3
city insurance lapses after 30 days
police issue "notice to appear" NOT "summons"
supervisors can authorize parallelling.
trr needs cb or tracking #
trap notify supervisor
sound impound 75 ft
dcfs hotline tip, call back dcfs and notify.
what i remember
Agg Battery. Read the statue. Just like if you get someone for theft and they have a prior theft conviction it makes it a felony. If you hit someone 60 or older according to the statue it is a felony. Someone hits a uniform police officer it is a agg battery according to the statue.
This is all according to the statues but of course trying to get a dick or felony review to approve it is another thing.
It is a test you follow the law not what happens in the real world
To 4:01:02
We can't answer your questiion until you tell us which watch you are referring to. If your 2510 on days, don't worry. You will be OK because he will never show up at the job nor will you hear from him. If the miracle of miracles does occur and he does show up,then the correct answer is 3. He's not going to stick around and do anything in the way of supervision when he can blow it off onto another Sgt. so I think that 3 would probably be a safe pick. If you are referring to 2510 on afternoons, then the patrolman could be in real trouble, no matter how heroic is actions are. Answer number 3 can be ruled out because 2510 3rd watch would NEVER waste or miss an opportunity to discipline a patrolman. If you are referring to 2510 on 1st watch then the correct answer is none of the above because he will be off running a seatbelt mission or DUI'ing somebody (maybe a copper) and be unable to show.
2510 on days gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "run silent, run deep". He must have served in the Navy as a submariner because this guy runs so far beneath the radar, sonar couldn't find him. I heard that Tasch once called for canine to come out to 025 and search for 2510 and even they couldn't find him!
1012 how many years do you have on this job 1.5 or 2 because it sounds like you've got it all figured out... do your fucking job and you won't have to worry about who's looking over your shoulder.
The question on striking the 62 yr old stated that he had minor injury. the correct charge is Agg Batt. We know in reality it would be simple but this test, nor are our general orders about reality. If we followed all our general orders to the "T" every day nothing would get done. the G.O.s are there to fuck a P.O. that's how they wanted you to answer these test questions.
Im just happy I did not waste hundreds of dollars and my time for study groups on this 1. I expected to guess on a lot of answers but 2 out of the 3 were actually good answers for most questions. The guy next to me kept scratching his head (whats the answer) poor guy yea...he will make it!
3/26/2006 04:01:02 AM
Notify OEC of shots fired at and by the police....a police officer is shot and unknown if any civilians. Get EMS immediately for gunshot victims and for the children. Above all get our copper to the hospital.
Set up a perimiter until CFD puts out the fire. Assign a paper car and wait until the field lieutenant/watch commander/street deputy arrive and take over this mess from you....which definately will happen with a copper shooting and being shot.
Before you go home, write up our copper for the Blue Star and Medal of Valor awards.
That's what I'd do.
As far as the old senile man stealing and the "wanting to have him arrested", one of the keys to crime is intent, or malice". senility does not equal either of the 2 and therefore no crime has been commited. It is a confussed, mentally ill individual wanting gum but unsure means to acquire.
so the answer was "C". Any argument from the test givers would be moot
$4000 identity theft is notify: R/B/T
S.O. 04-12-01 section y (last line on page 5)
Did anybody notice that question #82 had A. A. C. for answers instead of A. B. C.?
It kills me how some of you assholes actually talk shit about the need to make these tests easy enough for "minorities" to pass.
My classroom was FULL of hillbillies scratching their heads and sighing away as if those actions would give them the right answers.
Reading the comments on this blog confirms it.
I can't wait to hear the dumb, crybaby hillbillies when the next promotions come around.
Some of you folks just have to accept that you'll never get a promotion because you have no clout and/or you're dumbfucks that are terrible test-takers!!!
Oh, and a college degree doesn't necessarily mean you are smarter, or a better test-takers.
Flame-on, bitches! The truth always hurts!!!
Thats only for subsection (a) Subsection (b) 10-or-11 not sure states aggravated battery 60 or older. In the course of commiting a battery a person commits aggravated battery if the subject is over 60 regardless of of severity of injury
above response is to 3/26/2006 09:41:59 AM
When is the next class going to be made? The detective group is supposed to start shortly. How about the two secret study groups going on for the past 2 months for the Lt. test which has not even been annoonced yet.
Lock-up a senile seventy-five-year-old? A good sergeant, or any decent human being would not need to be guided by any general order and know what to do. And sometimes we need a good sergeant to make the call when the P.O. doesn't have a clue.
For instance, thirteen years ago in the midst of the first Bulls Championship riot I transported my two Black Souls turned burglars to the 011th District lock-up. Upon arrival I stood in line at the 011th District lock-up in back of two black policeman who brought in a black eighteen-year-old with Down Syndrome. When I asked the officers what he did they stated that they had reponded to call of looting inside a store in 010. The officers went on to say that as fifty to one hundred looters ran past them and fled the store they found the mentally retarded teenager standing alone inside and took him into custody. Nice pinch guys. I wish I was your sergeant then. I might be in a few months.
How about people using their cellphones. While we were waiting (afternoon) people were calling, texting members from the earlier session. People were running up the back steps using the phone. During the test, a PO, clicked open his cell phone for a minute, closed it and promptly when back to taking the test.
Don't worry, if they need to resort to desparation tactics like calling for help on their cell phone they should hit somewhere in the fifty to fifty-five percent correct range on Part 1. Not a high enough score to get a passing grade back in math class at Marshall, or Kelvyn Park High Schools, but high enough to get promoted meritoriously because they are minorities.
WHY IS THERE A PART 2 ANYWAYS? WE ALL TOOK THE SAME TEST, GRADE IT AND GIVE ME MY RANK # IN ABOUT 2 DAYS. NO THEY WANT TO HAVE THE BULLSHIT IN BASKET SUBJECTIVE TEST
WHERE THERE IS NO WAY GARDE ALL OF THEM THE SAME. IT CANNOT BE GRADED BY PEOPLE TO BE FAIR, IT HAS TO BE BY MACHINE OR SCANTRON STYLE. ONE GRADER MAY BE MORE LENIANT THAN ANOTHER OR GIVE MORE OR LESS PARTIAL CREDIT WHICH IN TURN COULD COST YOU 2 OR 3 POINTS AND 400-500 RANK POSITIONS. WHERE IS ARE UNION?
Don't just bitch about the "merit" promotion of minorities. "Clout" knows neither gender nor color.
Many of the "merit" promotions go to white suckholes and politically connected dumbfucks who wouldn't know a felon if he bit them in the ass.
"Clout" or "merit" in the dysfunctional CPD is equal opportunity corruption. You need look no further than current exempt "leadership". Incompetent or mediocre, at best.
Morale and moral courage is understandably non-existent.
Yup.
But according to all the crybaby hillbillies on this department, it's a deadly sin if the blacks, hispanics, arabs, or any other piece of shit hacks, play the game and move themselves up...no matter how underqualified they are.
I guess when the rest of the country looks at whites in the midwest as a bunch of inbred rednecks, the inferiority complex kicks in and the m/2's and f/2's on the CPD think they are actually more qualified than ALL minorities to get a promotion, simply because of the color of their skin---even though their I.Q. level equal a bag of rocks
Wake up motherfuckers, because there are actually MANY minorities that are going to get these spots on their OWN merit. Nevermind all the HACKS that get the spots for kissing ass.
correction: "equals"
How bout the 3 or so people outside that they closed the door on...Lane 1230...and we waited around for and 1 1/2 hour before they even let us in the class room and didn't start the test for another 45mins. I know 1230 means 1230 but if they didn't start the test for about 2 hour later I would be pissed if I were that guy. Sorry to even see it happen...poor guys out there looking at us through the window in desperation.
i'm sooo sick of this website...i'm rich, bitch!
4:01am
It's a trick question.
2510 would finish the pizza before going to the scene. So je couldn't hear any shots fired.
... so he...
No wonder you don't want a written test.....its our not "are" union.
THE FBI SAID THAT CHICAGO AND DETROIT GENERATE THE MOSE REVENUE FOR TERRORIST ACTIVITY OVERSEAS....WHICH MEANS THE TWO LEAST LIKELY PLACES TO BE BOMBED IN THE UNITED STATES WILL BE DETROIT AND OUR OWN HOME TOWN OF CHICAGO.....SO YOU SOUTHSIDERS SHOULD BE EVEN HAPPIER....MORE HABIBS ON YOUR SIDE OF TOWN....
Pondering these thoughts
How much USC was generated by all those who paid $25 to take the test? Where does it go?
When I was in school, A scan-tron type of test was graded in about 3 seconds. I would have waited in line to get my results immediately.
Signed
Blue Shirt for Life.
p.s. you people on the K-9 list need to file a grievence.....
ya WTF can we bring our cell phones in or not? Anyone know what time they closed the doors in the PM session?
Does anyone know if all P.O.'s are supposed to have new ID's, the F/1 next to me had an old one and tucked it under a piece of paper when I looked over at it. But then again im sure Sheniqua the test procter was her auntie and let her in...
12:33 pm is the frickin prime example of a merit sgt. They told everyone yes EVERYONE that the answer key was wrong , it was on the board AAB was supposed to be ABC...there a tough problem to figure out DET. you were probably too busy talkin on your cell phone to listen to the instructions. But then again daddy's gonna help out
I thought all POs were suppose to have the new IDs. I thought the old one was confiscated when we got the new one. But if someone happened to say that they lost their old one, got the new one, they would then have 2. Wouldn't suprise me if they didn't show the proctors what ID to look for.
You are allowed to take the test if you are on a leave and if you are on a long term leave, you would not have a new type ID card.
I am the only fucking idiot here who always follows directions. Where does it get me? Nowhere.
I brought my notice to report, my #2 pencils, and my yellow "hi-liter" marker. I also kept my cell phone and food in my vehicle.
But during the test the f/1 behind me was grazing on candy, making noise with the cellophane wrapper,digging through her purse, etc. and the m/2 proctor in his early 20's was to scared to correct the ignorant bitch! I'm sure her fat ass will be a sergeant soon!!!!!!
Oh..and what about the 1/3 of the classroom that didn't even bring pencils!
This department will always be fucked up!
0224
could not have said it better my self, and I bet everyone on this sight agrees (thats because to be on here you have to have a computer, know how to work it and follow directions to get to the pages..so that will eliminate about half the people who took the sgts exam I cant wait till the idots come out and say the test is racist.......
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A POLICEMEN FOLLOWED DIRECTIONS..I HAD THIS GOOF IN MY CLASS TALKING ON HIS CELLPHONE RIGHT BEFORE THE EXAM..STILL GOT IN SOME WORDS AFTER THE PROCTOR TOLD HIM TO SHUT IT OFF..BY THE WAY HE WAS A M/2...QUITE SURPRISED...I GUESS EVERY ETHNIC GROUP HAS IDIOTS...THAT'S WHY THEY MAKE MERIT FOR THE "UNDER EDUCATED" AND THE DADDY'S KIDS GET THE SPECIAL TUTORING SESSION AT 35TH STREET..SO NONE OF THE BIG BOYS AT SCHOOL TEASE THEM ABOUT BEING MADE BY MERIT...ALL THE REST OF US ARE STUCK WORKING A BEAT CAR HANDLING 90% OF THE DEPARTMENTS WORKLOAD WITH LESS MANPOWER THEN THE SPECIALIZED UNITS...I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU JUST HAVE TO GET USED TO THE DISAPPOINTMENT KNOWN AS "THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT" ANYWAY STILL BEATS WORKING FOR A LIVING....COULD BE WORKING IN SOME SWEATSHOP IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY GETTING PIMPED OUT BY MY PARENTS...
i did not take the test..i had to work the full 8hrs tour of duty so you guys can take the test, and then not get the strips because you dont work the office or at 35th st..just say thanks, that good enough for me..ha ha. oh and i took my 25.oo and ate a good meal at mcdonalds...i love this job...
IS IT ME OR WHERE THE HELL DO ALL THESE GOOD LOOKING FEMALE "COPS" WORK...I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM ON THE STREETS...I BET THE TOP BRASS HAVE THEM HIDDEN INSIDE SO THEY ELIMINATE ALL THE COMPETITION FIGHTING FOR THAT PIECE OF A$$...I KEPT CHECKING OUT THE GIRL INFRONT OF ME.......WE HAVE SECRETARIES THAT MAKE 60+ A YEAR....NO WONDER THEY LEFT CORPORATE AMERICA...
This test did NOT make any sence. It is supposed to evaluate our knowledge of a supervisor's job function, but that wasn't the case. besides, there were NO questions DEALING WITH: weapons discharge, narcotics, terrorism, hazardous materials, onle 1 question on vehicle pesuits, only 1 question on school violence incidents. I felt like the test was written in a way that people who have never worked on the streets or done any police work, could pass this part of the test. This was supposed to be a TEST developed by people that SUPPOSEDLY had been observing SGT. performing their duties while on the streets or in the districts. About 75% of those questions did not have ANYTHING to do with the job of desk or street SGTS., WHO ARE THEY TRYING TO FOOL? Furthermore, did anyone ever see anybody in a patrol car observing a SGT.? That would be too much liability for the city! Besides, the good SGT's would probably tell them to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THEIR SQUAD CARS. GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO REALLY STUDIED, AND WORK HARD, BECAUSE YOU REALLY DESERVE IT.
Proctor explicitly stated nothing on desk but your i.d. test notice pencils/highlighter marker... f/1 next to me had bag of jolly rancher candy, a wristwatch, an asthma inhaler on desk, a honking handbag under desk, and i'm wondering why the fU@# do i follow directions, she will probably get promoted meritoriously
Anonymous said...
WHY IS THERE A PART 2 ANYWAYS? WE ALL TOOK THE SAME TEST, GRADE IT AND GIVE ME MY RANK # IN ABOUT 2 DAYS. NO THEY WANT TO HAVE THE BULLSHIT IN BASKET SUBJECTIVE TEST
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Here's my offer for a better promo test. Steal it if you want.
There were over 160 GO, SO, LB's etc. Make 3 Q's from each item. That comes out to 480 Q's.
Scantron it. No reference, no weighted. Just study your ass off and come with the answers in your head. They can give you the 3-4 hrs whatever. The results should be in 2-3 days later. First 500 that score the highest win. Period.
What is a Sgt supposed to do anyway? A Sgt is supposed to HAVE THE ANSWER READY WHEN YOU ASK HIM. Any asshole blue shirt can look up ILCS info or a GO. You don't need stripes to do that. Reference Q's: gone. not needed.
What is the point of the weighted questions?? Is the Dept admitting there is more than one right way to do something? No. There is only one truth. Not a 2 point or 1 point truth. If I have to call a Sgt over for help, I don't want him to give a 1 point answer if there is a 2 point answer to my question!
Again, one 500+ recall question test. No essays, no short answers, no reference--just know your shit!
D.S.O. 05-02 says upon discovery of clandestine lab you will immediately notify OEMC. OEMC will then notify NAGIS. This was tricky because D.S.O. 04-12-01 says immediate notification to NAGIS 24 hour desk. "Notify OEMC" was the more correct answer.
D.S.O 04-12-01 says notify RBT in all identity thefts!!
It is amazing to me how much bitching is done about the "merit" part of the promotion process. There is nothing you can do about the 30 % the city has. If most of you study as much as you bitch you might actually score well enough to make it on your own.
It's not just the 30% merit!!!
Those who work with/for (and family members of) the Subject matter experts and Senior subject matter experts are privy to the test questions before the test is given. This is not a secret.
Look at the clusters of high scorers from the prior exams, and their respective units.
Then there are the house mouses who instead of doing police work are being paid to study for the exam, with full knowledge from their bosses.
Finally, there are the clout bunnies in the units, who instead of doing their usual police work are being held down by thier bosses on station assignments for several hours a day. You'll see these kids in the back offices and lunch rooms studying for the test.
How the hell does the no-clout working copper compete with this?
Put another way, out of 5000 coppers taking the test, they will promote the 300 or so.
100 will be "merit", so you must score in the top 200.
Keep in mind that there will be AT LEAST 200 coppers who already have the test questions.
USE TO HAVE RESPECT FOR THE DEPARTMENT BUT NOT ANYMORE HOW MANY IDIOTS DOES IT TAKE TO BE THE POLICE
30% merit tells the rest of the world that 1/3 of cpd supervisors are incompetent...for promotions there should be 0% merit promotions...seriously we aren't being tested on nuclear physics...were taking a test on shit were suppose to know...these general orders aren't there for nothing...it's how we do our job...if you can't even do your job correctly why get promoted...i know that the elite will always get tests ahead of time...that is the nature of the beast...and all the house mouse sexy sluts get to study on department time...that leaves all us idiots working a beat car stuck with handling stupid he ate the last piece of chicken domestics...all we can do is try to study harder than everyone else...and if a working cop gets promoted i'll raise my glass to him.{note i didn't say her} not too many females on the street....all we can do is enjoy having a job that pays us....my friend has a masters degree and only makes $35,000........we have it a lot better than most people....where ever you go in human society there will always be favorites....."clout" it's a part of human nature and it will never change....if you made boss wouldn't your team compose of guys you know....
moriarty got them all right....just ask him
If the test were on nuclear physics I would be in the top 5.
If part 2 includes questions pertaining to police work, I should do fairly well.
If the test includes questions pertaining to supervising police work, I hope I will do well. Should the test actually measure one's knowledge of polioce work, and one's ability to supervise, and I did poorly, I would be content that the position is not for me (at this time).
HOWEVER, when the first question on part 2 is "which unit or department should be contacted to repair the Xerox machine?"......
Sgt's test was pretty easy, but we all know that the suck asses will get by. For instance, the back stabbing, suckhole pj from the a/4 gun team. He is so far up the lt's butt. he is the one we have to watch out for. let's studing for the second part of the test so that we get good supervisors out ther on the streets.
yup i can think of alot of good supervisors that did not last long in patrol (Vail, Sanchez, BLopez, Stubie011, Stack011) we dont need the jaycox types to supervise. Beside you cant find him, he's lost in the lt's underware.
Hey guys line up some more test questions on the blog> I want to look these questions up!!
Im dying to know.
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