Saturday, May 27, 2006

Small Problem Becomes BIG Problem

Quite a few people we know have gotten tickets they don't deserve. Even we've gotten one or two. We're we wrong? Sure, some of the time. Were the ticket writers wrong? Sure, some of the time. Everyone is wrong sometimes. Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes not. And when you get caught, you try to reason with the ticket writer or you suck it up and pay the fine. If you're a real glutton for punishment, you go through the appeals process which is so stacked against you, it almost makes sense to pay the fine.

We weren't at the scene. We didn't read any of the reports. As far as we can tell, we don't know any of the players. All we have to go on are this blog (which isn't always the most accurate source of information) and the media (which are always going to portray police in a bad light). You see our dilemma?

If the Officer was using his personal car to respond to some call for service, then the traffic aide is completely in the wrong and ought to have non-suited the ticket. We know there are cops that work Loop Traffic and use their own cars to get to their posts just like there are foot and school officers who take personal cars to their posts. We've always wondered what happens if you wreck your own car or have it damaged by offenders (or have it ticketed) when you aren't using a city owned vehicle. Is the city covering it?

If the Officer wasn't using it for a call for service, but rather shopping or whatever, than he is wrong. If they can't reason with the aide or a supervisor (police or traffic aide), go through the appeals or pay the fine. Arresting someone seems a bit extreme. You want to get revenge? Turnabout. See all those cars with the M&M wrapper in the front window parked illegally around the Loop? Hmm.

Just our opinion. We're willing to listen to other options if you've got them.

80 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

screw this using your personal car to go to ur post. make the department give u a dept. car or carpool using a dept. car if not enough cars to go around

5/26/2006 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just like a poster said in another comment section the knuckleheads let the tma keep her radio on her.what a lack of common sense

5/26/2006 11:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

any links to this story?

5/26/2006 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well there can be a major problem with using your own personal car while on duty, someone should look up the rule(s) for this. That nonsense on the Northside was totally unnecessary...No one wanted to give an inch, everybody was right, everybody thought they were enpowered to do what they did.
EVERYBODY involved actually lost

5/26/2006 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meter maids use those little computers to write tickets, right? So they are unable to non-suit them?

But TMA's use books like ours. Parkers are by far the easiest paper to "make a mistake" on and thereby invalidate them.

Do the TMA's really want to start this type of animosity?

5/26/2006 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it ture that Dean Andrews put a par form to become a meter maid?

5/27/2006 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no it was a spar form for his mother

5/27/2006 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Unit 650 said...

LMAO. You are BRUTAL, 12:20 A.M.

5/27/2006 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kids cant we all just get along?

5/27/2006 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The latest development is that Ms. Fegan (the TMA supervisor arrested by the officer who received the citation) has retained Craig Tobin (attorney at law) and appears to be on her way to filing a lawsuit. The defendants/respondents have not been identified. I'm surprised and astounded that a police officer (with approximately 25 years experience)is not aware of the department's policy regarding traffic (personal issue & parking) citations: Only an exempt member or commanding officer can approve the non-suit request. (But then I know some cops with 30 years on the job who don't know the difference between a "commander" and a "commanding officer" (the latter is not exempt rank.)) They just know he's the boss! The officer who received the citation could have prepared a request for non-suit of citation form and taken it and the ticket to his commander for non-suit. But we all know why he didn't do that: Because his commander would have told him to pay it (which he should have done in the first place)!! Instead the officer decided to stick the ticket in the face of the TMA supervisor who correctly told the officer, "I don't have the authority to non-suit a ticket." The officer will pay for that ticket: So much more than he expected!!

5/27/2006 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CHECK THIS ONE OUT; IM MAD SO IM YELLING AT THE SGT ON 1ST WATCH HERE, 2-STUPID FEMALE OFFICERS IN 016TH WERE ASSIGNED TO WATCH A PRISONER IN THE HOSPITAL THIS MORNING..AFTER SEVERAL MINUTES OF NOT SHOWING UP TO RELIVE THE MALE OFFICERS.THEY GOT ON THE RADIO AND TOLD THE DISPATCHER THAT THEY CAN'T WATCH A MALE PRISONER BECAUSE THEY ARE 2-FEMALE ON THEIR CAR AND THEY WANTED IT REASSIGNED TO A 2MAN CAR..WELL GUESS WHAT..THE SGT SENT A 2-MAN CAR TO WATCH THE PRISONER..HEY YOU GET THE SAME FUCKING PAY AS I DO..YOU GET PROMOTED BECAUSE YOUR A FEMALE,THIS JOB REALLY FUCKING SUCK WITH THE CHICKEN SHIT BOSSES AND THE FUCKING DO NOTHING BROADS ON THIS JOB...IF I WORKED THE WAGON I WOULD REFUSE TO TAKE A FEMALE TO AREA 5 LOCKUP WITH OUT A FEMALE OFFICER ON THE WAGON,BECAUSE I AM AFRAID OF GETTING SOME BULL SHIT BEEF FROM HER...SGT..ON FIRST WATCH...YOUR WRONG,,STRAP SOME BALLS ON AND ORDER THE CUNTS TO DO THEIR FUCKING JOB....SORRY GUYS IM PISSED OFF...

5/27/2006 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hay captain anderson 017 1st watch

bite me you spinless ass !!!!

5/27/2006 02:26:00 AM  
Blogger hemorrhoid said...

To: Anonymous
From: Hemorrhoid
Subject: Check This One Out!!

Re: The two passive pussy police who think they have to be the same gender as the person they're guarding. Girls, you just have to guard the prisoner; not examine him!!

Bravo to you, Brother!! Keep yelling and writing!! But, you can thank Federal Judge Prentice Marshall (now deceased) for the Passive Pussy Patrol!!

5/27/2006 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The General Order on Handling Prisoners in Need of Medical Treatment requires same sex guards so the female officers were correct. On the other hand, they should have gone to the hospital and relieved you in a timely manner and then requested to be relieved.

Just my 2Cents. Now you can stop whinning.

5/27/2006 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now THAT's a slippery slope to go down.

According to orders, the desk is supposed to watch a juvenile until the Youth Officer arrives...3 hours later (because they have too much work). Do they? NO.

After writing a TVB, the desk is supposed to take control of the person. The PO is not supposed to have to sit there and wait until the TVB is written. Does that happen? NO.

And on and on.

We all know that those female "officers" did not have a grand desire to follow General Orders...they were looking for a way out of an undesirable situation at the expense of other officers.

That's my two cents. Now quit quoting the seldom followed General Orders.

5/27/2006 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's bull, female officer's have babysat male blank scuds at hospital's, and single handed. Here we have 2 not 1 and they radioed dead duck. Where's my retirement paper's!!!!

On TMA issue if the officer had 25 maybe he was doing the act as a
f%$k YOU out the door. On all wars cross your T's and dot your I's.

5/27/2006 03:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in all wars be in the rear with the gear

5/27/2006 03:56:00 AM  
Anonymous born to kill said...

easy pyle

5/27/2006 03:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about adding " changing a tire" to the police test....females on the job are doing less and less and getting more and more....

5/27/2006 05:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

give me one example of a female who holds her own on this job. please, 99% don't, if you are reading this, start, and we will respect you.......well, at least pretend to. fuck all TMAS

5/27/2006 06:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats it...Im gettiing a sex change so I can have it better!

5/27/2006 06:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off subject of bashing female officer's. There are good females working.

The TMA who is 5'02" 140 lbs, joined Traffic Mgmt. 3 mth's ago and is a supervisor, like what overnight and has been with city in another yet unknown prior capacity is screaming: Kidnap, Agg Batt and cruel and brutal detainment chrg's. along with sprained wrist. www.suntimes.com this is a must read. Copper's name given and she alleged their were 4 other officer's. Seems Ms Fegen has had prior issue's with police, article does not lay what they were.

5/27/2006 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i cant believe they let her keep the radio..."get me the commander and ops".u better stay at home for months with bad knees

5/27/2006 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I remember correctly, and of course I may be wrong. If you are assigned to a foot post you are not entitled to a Dept car. Furthermore I believe you are not supposed to take your personal car and if you do the dept will not cover your car. You are supposed to use public transportation because we ride for free.

5/27/2006 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the Sun-times article, the TMA Supervisor calls the Squadrol a "Paddy Wagon." As an Irish American, I am deeply offended by her racist comment. So much for sensitivity by city employees speaking to the media.

5/27/2006 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TMA?
Troublesome Malingering Asswipes
These under achieving, nitwits, who use the orange wand they are issued to invoke their authority on the public need to be doing something a little closer to their skill level.
How about the city puts a nail at the end of their orange magic wands, and have the Traffic Control Aids pick the trash on the ground. At least pick up as much trash as they have thrown down.
What another joke.
The TCA create more havoc than the Supt. at a Country Buffet.
I should have married a female police officer.
After 7 years on the job, doing nothing, she could go on permanent disability for some B.S., like her uterus fell out. Or she could say " I was driving my squad car down the mean streets to 35th and Michigan, where I work for Deputy Donglips ( who loves to stare at my little rear end )and I saw two gang members running from a liqour store. I picked up my cell phone to call my friend and let her know I was going to be late for our shopping date that I love to do while I'm supposed to be working, and one of the gang members look right at me. And , and, and ...
I sprained my eyes.
Yes, my eyes are sprained.
I need to go on Disability and collect a paycheck forever, to do nothing. And Deputy Donglips will have to get some other little snatch to ogle all day long, while he pretends to earn his salary."
Any females out their want to hook up?
Hell, how about a male life partner?
We can say we are life partners, share the medical, while one goes on Duty Dis. Cha Ching

5/27/2006 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 5/27/2006 08:26:57 AM

As an Irish American you should feel more ashamed than offended since over the last fifty years you and yours have consistently teamed forces with negroes, your social equal, to elect corrupt politicians in this city. You can look at yourself in the mirror and thank yourself for traffic aides, meritorious promotion, The Bean, the expanion of Section 8 housing in both my and your neighborhood, etc. So go to the Heritage Center, get piss drunk, listen to assholes speak and keep voting for your own. You reap what you sow.

5/27/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 5/27/2006 09:03:44 AM
From: A female P.O.
Re: That was f*ckin funny.

5/27/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C heap O verbearing P ussie S
can kiss my ass.
Maybe if you stop long enough to realize that YOU aren't GODS or the chosen one, you wouldn't be spending so much time getting your penis's out of the wringer

5/27/2006 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always hate to second guess a working copper, but if it's true that the best charge that these geniuses could come up with is some type of "jaywalking/obstruction of traffic" charge on a person who's JOB IT IS TO STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, then I hope they take it in the ass thoroughly on this one!

I mean, that can't be the way it happened...please for the love of god, someone tell me that isn;t really what happened...

I don't care what kind of a superbitch the TMA supe was being, it was not an arrest situation, and now we'll all pay for it out of more taxes.

5/27/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous retired and laughing said...

The column in yesterday's Tribune was John Kass at his very best. Read "Quiet guys lifts the lid off hiring machine" (of da mare).

The federal witness, Jack ("the Quiet Guy") Drumgould and his description of Daley's "Office of Governmental Affairs" (aka PATRONAGE), Robert Sorich, et al could just as easily apply to the CPD's "selection process" for exempts and other "merit" promotees.

I loved the part where the City Council keeps coming up with preposterous proposals about the evils of foie gras, barking dogs and street signs honoring cop killers while they ignore billions of taxpayer dollars going out the back door of City Hall on truck hiring, asphalt and Daley's pet projects.

Meanwhile, the electorate is either clueless or terminally apathetic. Just as long as the garbage is picked up and the winter streets are shoveled, your typical Chicago voter would elect Satan himself.

Kudos to Mr. Kass.

I'd prefer to vote for a garden variety ax murderer over any Chicago or Cook County Democrat. They are so deeply entrenched in self perpetuating corruption, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald could surely use the help of a nuclear device to even make a dent in "da Chicago way."

5/27/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an Irish American you should feel more ashamed than offended since over the last fifty years you and yours have consistently teamed forces with negroes...

OMG there are Negroes in Chicago. who would have thought! JERK!

5/27/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can already see the dollar $ign$ in the televised crying eyes of this TMA supv. Jackie Fegan. While some will say that there's enough blame to go around, Fegan and her ilk are worthless pieces of shit. Unlike Fegan, most of the MTA folks are rational people.

Crocodile tears fo' shizzle, Fegan!

5/27/2006 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait until he figures out there are Latinos here too. He's probably going to have a grabber on his way to the next GAPA meeting.

5/27/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You missed the point of Drumgoulds testimony if you think it would only apply to merit and exempt picks on this department. His point is that no one gets hired or promoted without clout. Get it, 'no one'. Not just some and not others, but nobody.
So if you were to put it in context with the rest of the city except for enty level police officers (they need to hire about 500 a year and they can't have a felony record) about everything else this city does it illegitmate.

5/27/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FLY THE FLAG!!

SUPPORT OUR VETERANS!!

JOIN THE NRA!!

5/27/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can name quite a few sergeants who managed to make rank without clout. They're easy to spot, too. They're not the ones who go to 001, 018, or to a BIS unit two periods into they're new promotion. And they'll manage to make leiutenant too. They battled the meritorious promotions, and they endured setbacks caused when entire tact teams somehow make the first fifty spots on a list. Keep voting for democrats, boys.

5/27/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know the facts. But let's just say the 26 year veteran officer didn't act like someone with 26 years on-the-job. He acted like a PPO.

Nice going office!

Now the city will have to pay and that little C@#% traffic aide will spend the rest of her career whining about how come she isn't promoted etc., because the city is punishing her for suing it, etc.

I saw her picture in the Sun-Times.. she's sooooo full of shit playing up the victim role so well, her performance would make any westside minister proud! (the fake cast) I mean I've never known anyone who received Sprained ankles, wrists, etc, except for ass-holes exploiting the legal system!

5/27/2006 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over the years I have not seen to many footmen with a lot sense. Softie just proved that once again. He's a goof.

5/27/2006 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The day the city started letting civilians start writing tickets was the day we should have stopped writing them, the door has been opened,now they somehow feel they have police powers , you should hear the way they yell at people on the street. I say,stop writing parkers all together and let the tma's and memter maids handle it all,oh yeah, don't forget street sweepers,they can write them too. This city is a fucking joke.

5/27/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets face it. The reason the city "let" the civilians write tickets is because lazy coppers stopped writing them. How many times did you hear "I'm not writing parkers so Daley can put in more flower pots..wraught iron...ect" Go ahead, turn in your ticket books Daley can hire 2 TMA's for the price of one copper. And get them to write tickets to pay their own salary. Whats next "I don't do movers" okay then they will buy more photo vans (and man them with civilians) I don't want to move bodies...okay we'll give a contract to a civilian company. Its called the privatization of the chicago police department and we only have ourselves to blame. All of this means LESS COPPERS. We used to be at 13,500 where are we now??? The problem is that coppers know that the city will not lay off coppers but what they are not seeing is that they are not replacing coppers either. Remember its coppers who respond to your 10-1 not civilians. If you don't do the work the city will replace you with a civilian hack who will.

5/27/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
C heap O verbearing P ussie S
can kiss my ass.
Maybe if you stop long enough to realize that YOU aren't GODS or the chosen one, you wouldn't be spending so much time getting your penis's out of the wringer

5/27/2006 10:27:43 AM

Why are you on this blog? Are you a police wannabe who is such a shit bag that you couldn't meet department standards.
As for TMAs....How useless. Why are we paying people to do EXACTLY what the traffic signal above their head is doing?

5/27/2006 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone asked:
We used to be at 13,500 where are we now???

I ran the numbers the other day. You can too in CLEAR! Use the pay codes for CAPT., LT., Sgt., Det. and P.O. you will see that we still have about 13,00 on the payroll. This 9000 nuber people are coming up with is bull. Now all we need to do is get all these personell out of "spots" and other hiding places and on the street.

5/27/2006 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 10,000 number is not "bull".

Run just the code for Patrolman, 9161, and you will see that the number is no where near 13,500.

If you add the detectives, special unit officers, Sgts, Lt's, etc. then you may come up close to 13,000 +.

The point is that we used to have more Patrolmen on the job than we have now and we are still expected to do the same amount of work with less people.

5/27/2006 02:20:00 PM  
Blogger like it or not said...

You are wrong about "lazy coppers stopped writing them" (parkers).

The fact is that the quota....I mean index....numbers have not dropped over the years. They have actually increased.

The city sees a means by which they can increase revenues (you would not believe how much money parkers bring in in a year) and they jump on it.

If 10,000 cops can generate $100 million in parking enforcement in a year, just think what would happen if we had a force of 1000 more Meter Maids and TMA and DOR guys out there writing tickets. Ka-ching, ka-ching ka-ching.

It isn't lazy cops (although there are more than enough of them), it is a money grubbing Mayor and City Council that must have more money.

The vans and the cameras are just the next step in their money grabbing efforts using the auspices of "law enforcement" to enrich themselves.

5/27/2006 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to know what Watch Commander in his right mind would sign that arrest report, agreeing that there was Probable Cause?!?!?!?

5/27/2006 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last week I was downtown, paid six bucks to park for two hours.

Put the little ticket in the window of my car.

Expired at 1:59 p.m.

At 1:55 p.m. I was at the machine attempting to pay for another thirty minutes.

Machine closest to my car would not print tickets.

Went to the next closest.

Paid for an hour.

Got back to my car at 2:01 p.m.

Guess what was on my windshield.

A ticket written at 2:00 p.m.

Ont the ticket was a note "Payment expired at 1:59 p.m."

I saw three tma standing in front of the Corner Bakery.

Went up to them and asked which one was Williams?

"Lady" replied that it was her.

I told her that she pulled a cheap shot writing a ticket the second payment expired.

I said with the machines scattered every block, they should give people a five minute grace period.

She said "It's a legal ticket, I did not break the law".

I said "Yes it's legal, but it is cheap".

Then I said that in over 20 years I have never done something so cheap to a citizen (O.K. maybe I did a long time ago).

She said "Why don't you have stickers on your car"?

I stated "I pay for parking, I am not looking for a favor, just don't be cheap".

She then again replied that it is a legal ticket.

I said have a nice day, and walked away dizzy.



Bout a week later in front of Corner Bakery I saw a car, with TMA vest on dash board parked in a tow zone.

Called 311.

Got the event number.

Bout twenty minutes later there was a banana on it (For those of you old enough to remember).

So price of parking:

$6.00

Cost of ticket:

$50.00

Pleasure of seeing three TMAs sitting in restaurant, knowing that there was a ticket on their car outside that I was responsible for:

Priceless.



If you see a TMA car illegally parked.

Call it in.

5/27/2006 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The WC didn't sign anything. RWOC; should have written her an ANOV.

5/27/2006 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5/27/2006 03:37:31 PM

Fuck Seiser, you run it!

5/27/2006 03:42:00 PM  
Blogger anon ymous said...

Stupid Question....
Didn't a court rule that having the TMA's violate our contract with the city? Why are they still around?

5/27/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous leomemorial said...

Does the police department train the Traffic Control Aides?

The reason I ask is I received a post card today for that position and I have to report to the Police Training Academy next Saturday if I'm interested...

5/27/2006 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jackie fegan cb#16539027---befor some of u keep bashing the police read the arrest report!!!!

5/27/2006 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perfect spot for you.

5/27/2006 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=4209198

5/27/2006 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WAGON,BECAUSE I AM AFRAID OF GETTING SOME BULL SHIT BEEF FROM HER...SGT..ON FIRST WATCH...YOUR WRONG,,STRAP SOME BALLS ON AND ORDER THE CUNTS TO DO THEIR FUCKING JOB....SORRY GUYS IM PISSED OFF...

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.....16th Dist makes arrest???.........

5/27/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um, no it's not the right position for me.

But hey, looks like they are hiring. Do you want the postcard?

5/27/2006 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, there are some really, really tough cops out there, I mean you really got to be one of the ATEAM to take on the TMA's

5/27/2006 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my dear anon ymous, theres no such thing as a stupid question...just stupid people who ask questions

5/27/2006 08:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let me see.....hmmmmm..... how many times have i heard "squad can you get me a "female transport" to whereever, as if a male cannot transport. hmmmm.... how many times have i heard i can't search "her", i need a female. hmmmm.... how many times has a "female" officer been assigned to a female prisoner, because a "male" officer can't watch her......get over it. it works both ways.

5/27/2006 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys in 016 have like a 50/50 chance of getting police service on 1st watch... they have some of the most useless looking people... let alone police officers...scary..

5/27/2006 09:09:00 PM  
Blogger Rue St. Michel said...

I'm #64!

I wasn't there but my gut reaction, and my money, would be that the TMA over-reacted and escalated the entire incident. It would be in line with their character and temperament.
Overall I think the TMA program is a waste of money. It is the WIC program for the 21st century.

5/27/2006 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of this means LESS COPPERS. We used to be at 13,500 where are we now??? The problem is that coppers know that the city will not lay off coppers but what they are not seeing is that they are not replacing coppers either. Remember its coppers who respond to your 10-1 not civilians. If you don't do the work the city will replace you with a civilian hack who will.

5/27/2006 01:42:43 PM

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You are assuming that it wasn't Daley's plan all along.

5/27/2006 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I want to know what Watch Commander in his right mind would sign that arrest report, agreeing that there was Probable Cause?!?!?!?

5/27/2006 03:10:52 PM

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What? Like W/C's don't get lied to all the time???

5/27/2006 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the w/c didnt sign it because when he read it he knew it woulda bit him in the ass. he knows that the tma's job is to stand in the street or as a sup to talk to ur troops face to face while standing in the street

5/27/2006 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2-STUPID FEMALE OFFICERS IN 016TH WERE ASSIGNED TO WATCH A PRISONER IN THE HOSPITAL THIS MORNING..AFTER SEVERAL MINUTES OF NOT SHOWING UP TO RELIVE THE MALE OFFICERS.THEY GOT ON THE RADIO AND TOLD THE DISPATCHER THAT THEY CAN'T WATCH A MALE PRISONER BECAUSE THEY ARE 2-FEMALE ON THEIR CAR AND THEY WANTED IT REASSIGNED TO A 2MAN CAR

Ok retard. Time to read your general orders. Guess you are just pissed off because your nap got interrupted right?

Typical 016th district 1st watch. Do nothing and bitch when you have to do a little work.

How about you watch my fucking house while I am sleeping instead of cramming your car in the cemetary with the whole 10 sector and sleeping all night? It's only fair since I watch your house all day long.

5/27/2006 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rue, while I agree that she likely bore a lot of responsibility, I can't agree completely with your guess for two reasons:

1.) These are Police Officers. 3 of 4 Chicago Police Officers know better than to get goaded into THIS kind of insanity. You've seen Police Officers de-escalate far, far worse situations. The longer you've been on, the more you've seen this.

2.) What in the world would she have to gain. Legitimately, she's been on that job for 3 months. You would have to be NUTS to start doing things outside of your authority with 3 months on any job. She didn't have a personal stake in it either if she didn't write the ticket.

My guess is that there is no way it was 4 officers at fault here. Its waaay more likely that one guy helped escalate it and was thought highly enough that the other 3 figured he must have a good reason if he is that pissed.

All in all, I feel bad for 3 of 4. Don't know which 3 of 4, but it sounds like 1 guy put the other 3 into the trick bag with this.

And if the one guy really has 26 years on, than I'd just rack it up to him having a really bad day. That is, unless he has a history of having really bad days.

5/27/2006 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1.) These are Police Officers. 3 of 4 Chicago Police Officers know better than to get goaded into THIS kind of insanity. You've seen Police Officers de-escalate far, far worse situations. The longer you've been on, the more you've seen this.


Maybe they are in it together! Gonna split the City's pot! Good for them.

5/27/2006 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "veteran" s a f*cking idiot, that's what he is!!

5/27/2006 11:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently she prior had run-in's with police. She also said the wagon had another prisoner who the officer's yanked out just to put her in.

5/27/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing is true in all this, their short. She mentioned the officer was tall, no weight but her's was given 5'02" 140 lbs. How did his knee's get banged up?

5/27/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yep... imitation is the sincerest flattery. even from some green-eyed jealous jagoff who thinks they are Northside

5/27/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HUH?

5/27/2006 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for your infor

When you are using your car to conduct police business You can easily beat the parking ticket at the hearing office on Superior

Dont try it when you arent working but when you are it can be done

Ive done it
so should have he

5/28/2006 12:13:00 AM  
Blogger DaleyforMCCguest said...

The TMA'a siter is Lt. and showed up at the station. I read the original report that was faxed out and it was for battery:simple. I know the secondary was scratched out, but I don't recall if it was to or from :AGG:to a PO. The second watch captain had more important things to do and went home while this was going on. Thats leadership. I'm sure he'll be on the next Exempt list.

5/28/2006 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he knew it was bullshit and signing it would put him in legal hot water, so he left

5/28/2006 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

inkttgnThis was a perfect way to handle the problem.

Anonymous said...
Last week I was downtown, paid six bucks to park for two hours.

Put the little ticket in the window of my car.

Expired at 1:59 p.m.

At 1:55 p.m. I was at the machine attempting to pay for another thirty minutes.

Machine closest to my car would not print tickets.

Went to the next closest.

Paid for an hour.

Got back to my car at 2:01 p.m.

Guess what was on my windshield.

A ticket written at 2:00 p.m.

Ont the ticket was a note "Payment expired at 1:59 p.m."

I saw three tma standing in front of the Corner Bakery.

Went up to them and asked which one was Williams?

"Lady" replied that it was her.

I told her that she pulled a cheap shot writing a ticket the second payment expired.

I said with the machines scattered every block, they should give people a five minute grace period.

She said "It's a legal ticket, I did not break the law".

I said "Yes it's legal, but it is cheap".

Then I said that in over 20 years I have never done something so cheap to a citizen (O.K. maybe I did a long time ago).

She said "Why don't you have stickers on your car"?

I stated "I pay for parking, I am not looking for a favor, just don't be cheap".

She then again replied that it is a legal ticket.

I said have a nice day, and walked away dizzy.



Bout a week later in front of Corner Bakery I saw a car, with TMA vest on dash board parked in a tow zone.

Called 311.

Got the event number.

Bout twenty minutes later there was a banana on it (For those of you old enough to remember).

So price of parking:

$6.00

Cost of ticket:

$50.00

Pleasure of seeing three TMAs sitting in restaurant, knowing that there was a ticket on their car outside that I was responsible for:

Priceless.



If you see a TMA car illegally parked.

Call it in.

5/27/2006 03:37:31 PM

5/28/2006 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this P.O had 25 years service, he should have learned something, like common sense. But I guess working in 18 you don't need it, I hate to say it but it should have been let go. Look at he fucking mess it created all because of his ego. What a dumb fuck!

5/28/2006 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOTE from an old traffic man, when we worked out of the Kraft building, the Dept. of Revenue was upstairs, the Meter Readers had just got those new computer ticket printers and were writing all the coppers around the Kraft Bldg.

A mini war insued and the police were ticketing and towing all the cars of the Revenue supervisors who would dump their private cars around the building at checkoff time.

This stopped within 8 hrs! Revenue and traffic aids were told to lay off the Kraft Bldg. and 18 and find other places to write their quotas.

Many of those Revenue people and traffic aides had phony messinger service signs to park in loading zones, fake handicapped permits, to park for free all day on a meter, the old orange vest on the windshield, mover books that they took out of the trash cans from officers who were to lazy to take them home and dispose of accordingly and a host of other tricks to avoid paying for parking.

And those tickets were non suited, YES non suited. A supervisor from Revenue told us that they could be non-suited as long as it was done before their shift was over, and they were not downloaded into the main computer, once downloaded it would be too late and impossible to pull them out of the system.

Once again, use common sense when your dealing with these people, the power of the pen is awesome.

If they get you, it may take days, weeks or months, but revenge is sweet brother!

5/28/2006 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Revenge should be swift and brutal and uncompromising.

5/28/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

police officers complained when the hire started to hire civilian dispatchers and call takers now you complain about the city hiring tma's, I guess there isn't enuf real police work for you to do, You know how stupid you all must have looked like on michigan avenue arresting a traffic aide fr jay walking while she was on duty doing her job I guess next time you're speeding to a job you'l get a ticket for speeding and reckless drving. That cop should be fired, better yet reassign him to the 10th or 11th district on third watch and let him so some real police work

6/03/2006 09:41:00 AM  

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