Laughing Stock of the Nation
First, the City Council sticks their beaks (haha) in the whole "foie gras" debacle, banning something that was eaten by about 500 people in the whole metro area. If there wasn't a market for it, chefs would've stopped serving it - let the market decide, not the Aldercreatures.
Then a few weeks ago, the City Council decided that loud parties would be next on the hit list:
Then a few weeks ago, the City Council decided that loud parties would be next on the hit list:
It would require live music or electronically generated noise emanating from "any private open space" between the hours of 10 p.m. and 8 a.m. to be no "louder than an average conversational level at a distance of 100 feet" from the property line. That's roughly four city lots away -- and a compromise from Suarez's original proposal of 75 feet after 9 p.m.
If police officers can hear the noise from 100 feet away, they would be empowered to write costly tickets: $300 for the first offense, $500 for the second offense within a one-year period and $1,000 for the third violation within that year.
A worthy idea, but unless we get manpower, an essentially fruitless endeavor. And now, the Aldercreatures have really jumped into the realm of insanity with their latest:
- Aldermen determined to restore peace and tranquility to Chicago neighborhoods introduced a pair of killjoy crackdowns Wednesday -- one establishing a 10-minute time limit on dogs barking outdoors, the other empowering police to impound ice cream trucks that play music after 7 p.m.
Barking dogs? Someone better notify that sergeant at the Animal Abuse Unit. Impounding ice cream trucks? QUICK! Anyone remember how to inventory perishable goods contained within such an impound (if we recall correctly, it was on the Sergeant's test in 1998). With the "Project Safe Summer" and uptick in shootings, killings and the like, is anyone seriously going to be giving any thought to loud parties, barking dogs or ice cream trucks? These aldercreatures are hilarious. Thank goodness we've solved school funding, Hired Truck, patronage hiring and everything else going on that we can devote time to these monumental social ills.
posted by SCC at 12:40 AM
64 Comments:
Let's try again.........First
The barking dog ordinance is just one more tool for neighbors to use to harrass each other. Its CAPS at its best. The next thing our "concerned citizens" will be demanding is that we enforce this ordinarnce. It is, afterall, a quality of life issue. Who cares about the other stuff. Afterall, everybody isn't getting robbed but certainly everyone is distressed by the sound of a barking dog.
Sic em, Fido!!!!!!!
Those idea's were in support and proof positive their worth the $5,000. raise. Rugai yr's ago got rid of ice cream trucks due to accidents, and she was the 1st on wanting the the 10 min. limit on DOG'S GONE BARKING.
Suggestions:
Teach the dog to howllllllllll.
Link up party blast with IPod's
Throw a ice cream blk party with IPod's. The booter's can handle the trk. Prblm. solved.
Should we really be moaning about legislation that gives us more tools to use in our on going effort to make the mules of this worlds life unbearable?
what we should be complaining about is the 20% raise they are going to give themsleves. We get a 12% raise and they take away our benefits. Why do they need to make 100,000 per year for a part time job? Why isn't our Union raising a stink.
whats really sad is that these guys are going to get there raise. :(
Someone needs to say this, THERE IS NO SUPERVISION ON THIS DEPARTMENT. For anyone else who worked in another state, or another department, the Chicago way is embarrassing. If every cop really did there job-and yes, many go beyond, but MANY do NOTHING, our manpower would be adequate. It is the culture in this city of NOT supervising that creates lazy whiney cops who think they're entitled to everything when they wouldn't last a month in a real job. And SCC, I usually agree with you, but if you've ever been to the same ghetto house 100 times in a summer for parties, you'd appreciate the noise ordinance. Think of all the lazy asses at 35th, think of every cop who drives by another without backing them up, every cop that stays down on an alarm for 2 hours, every ghost payroll job, every slip held, every extended lunch, every dick who takes his coffee and lunch before even thinking of coming to handle your job, every sergeant that goes home for 90% of his tour, every cop that goes on the medical half of every year ETC ETC ETC. You can't have it both ways SCC-you either want more cops on the street-therefore a supervised group of cops that actually work, OR you love this system of Chicago style work ethic. You can't complain about "manpower" and have it both ways.
Someone, quick, ask Larry Johnson how to impound an ice cream truck. The first ice cream truck to be seen in Lathrop in who knows how long and he impounded it a few weeks ago.
More big government, more tax, more regulations, less freedoms and more destruction of America! These elite a-holes think they know what's good for us because where're all too stupid! They're answer to any problem is throw a tax at it "make them pay!" Little by little they're chipping away at our freedoms, but many aren't noticing! Government wasn't supposed to be the great caretaker! And if definitely wasn't supposed to be the great TAXER!
Let's see...part-time employees...almost 100Gs a year....and now so desperate to justify their pointless and vastly over-paid existances they are attacking goose liver and dogs barking, in spite of the crumbling physical infra-structure of the city and incredibly underfunded pension funds that surround them...and then they try to slick in a 21% pay raise for themselves....hmmmm.
Now you and me and the fire guys and gals risk their lives for, what was that again? 2.5% raise this year?
Let's get together, a little rope, a tall tree, a few cold ones, and we can make aleremanic windchimes.
Selfish, egotistical assholes.
They couldn't hold a job at Jiffy Lube or Dominicks.
Natarus, Schiller, Tillman, the list of incredible insults to intelligent people goes on and on.
Something needs to happen.
Unbelieveable! Once again the city council has voted themselves a raise! What the fuck! What do they do? Where is the watchdog over these corrupt scumbags! Can we vote ourselves a raise? Hell no, we have to go through a corrupt FOP and give up more to get ourselves a small raise that can't even compete with the high cost of living and schools in this city we're forced to live in! This city is a JOKE!
karma
Edub, I agree 100% with you and I'm a supervisor. We, meaning the supervisors, are partially responsible for creating these guys. Most of the DOGS in my district have at least 10-15 or more years on the job. Did they become DOGS overnight? No, they did not and I'm willing to bet that no white shirt ever stepped in and laid the law down when this kind of behavior was first noticed. Why you ask? Because it's easier, thats why. It's easier to look the other way and ignore the fact that they do not respond to jobs in a timely manner, do not backup their co-workers promptly, do not generate any activity on their own. It's easier for a Sgt. to disappear all day and not respond to any jobs or make sure that their subordinates do. I once had a Inspector tell me that if the Sgts. were doing their jobs, the City wouldn't need the Inspectors. He was right.
I ask my people to do a couple of things. I want them to respond to their jobs as promptly as possible. Once there, take as much time as you need to complete your assignment, but please get there quickly. Handle the job properly, don't just blow it off or not even go. Remember, when you stay down on jobs, the only person you are hurting is the guy that works the neighboring beat. Your not hurting me, the Lt. nor the Capt. Your only hurting your colleagues. Be there when we need you. And when I say we, I don't mean me, the City or the command staff. I mean the people you work with, you know, the guy on the next beat over. And most importantly, when you hear another copper calling for help,GO!
Simple things right? Not too much to ask,right? But you would be surprised how many guys can't even do those things. You would be surprised how many guys I see going the opposite way on a robbery in progress or similar call or even a 10-1. But yet when I say something to them, right away it's Sgt....... is a J/O or this or that.
Some of the B/S reasons I've heard for staying down on jobs while everybody else is working their ass off are incredible. To me when a copper does that it tells me that they have absolutely zero respect for the people they work with. And I've got no problem with taking them aside and telling them verbally or putting it on paper if needed,that those kind of things are not acceptable.
Ome more thing. Yes, I do take jobs, sometimes more than the I should. And I take care of my people any way and any time I can. That is the workers. But I will also do whatever I can to make sure these DOGS understand that I will not tolerate tham endangering the lives of their colleagues by staying down on jobs, not going to their jobs or blowing them off so somebody else has to go later and handle them. Now go ahead, rip away.
Excuse me, but I have a 911 Emergency here!!!!
Frenchy the Poodle won't stop barking! Get to my home ASAP!!
P.s. Bring some Ice cream bars from the truck you impounded too.
No, No, No, they must get to my home FIRST because my neighbor is blasting polka music @ 1am.
It's a 911 Emergency!!!!
1:35 said.....
Why isn't our Union raising a stink.
First of all we do not have a union. FOP IS NOT A UNION.
Second, the aldergoofs will get what ever raise they want because they can. If we want better raises and benefits we would have to stick together. And we all know that will probably never happen.
4:59 said...Can we vote ourselves a raise? Hell no, we have to go through a corrupt FOP and give up more to get ourselves a small raise that can't even compete with the high cost of living and schools in this city we're forced to live in! This city is a JOKE!
So tell me why we let FOP and the city shit all over us?
Hey Sgt. 07:55:50 AM
Id work for a boss like you anytime!
"Quiet guy lifts the lid off hiring machine"
Did anyone read today's column in the Trib by Kass?
ANOTHER VICTORY FOR ALL AMERICANS, GEN. HAYDEN JUST CONFIRMED BY THE U.S. SENATE FOR CIA DIRECTOR.
IN YOUR FACE LEFTY, ALL LIBERAL SCUM MUST FUCKING DIE (ESPECIALLY W. GOLDING).
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HEY SCC: don't forget the $25.00 fee for micro chipping your dog, soon to be follow by micro chipping your cat, hamsters, gerbils,goldfish, parrots, parakeets and city stickers for your lawn mowers, bicycles,big wheels........hell there's money to be made!!!!!!
Aha! so this is how those aldercreatures going to raise money for their raises!!!!!
"OFF POST"
The family of the Cali girl thrown from the PROJECT building at 5135 S Federal has finally made a statement, actually is this a run up before filing suit against the Chicago Police Department, I think so.....I guess we better get rid of those goose livers!!!
I'm so glad that the aldermothefuckencocksuckensonofabitchenbastards were abel to vote themselfs a raise. I hope they can sleep at night thinking of how they just fucked all the citizens of the city. But yet they say there worth it. I say KISS MY FUCKEN ASS and go to hell You aldermotherfuckencocksuckensonofabitchenbastards. The only thing you deserve is a kick in the ass.
I volunteer for the ice cream unit!!
Brownstein to the rescue!!!!
Hey, SGT. 5/26/2006 07:55:50 AM
You're right on all counts of your rant. BUT until change comes from the top (nepotism, cronies, sex kittens, race based promotions) nothing is going to change. Just chill-out. The CPD is what it is.
07:55-I'm amazed it's been this long and no one has called me a jag-off yet, or attacked you...although I'd like to hear SCC's opinion. IT sounds like you are doing everything right-I have worked for sgts that recognize and take care of the workers, and I have worked for sgts that just want to be left alone. As for the theory that change must come from the top-that is called an excuse not to work. Why should I stop selling dope, collecting a welfare check and fathering 8 kids with eight different Moms? When the white man stops keeping me down I'll change. Guess what, black men and women get out of the ghetto and succeed. All we would need is a few more coppers dropping the "this is the Chicago way, we're victims, we can't do anything until Dalye changes" attitude, and we could start to rise up to the level of respectability. Real change has a way of starting from the bottom-don't use that as an excuse for your laziness. Yes, Chicago is a laughing stock because of its politics-no it doesn't have to be this way.
The really sad part of all this is The City of Chicago has allowed our man power to fall short. So short that CPD needed to join the state police and cook county police to help fight crime. Hey mayor daley just stop paying off other debt for the city with police money and hire the cops needed to protect the City of Chicgao.
Just watched the 12'clk. news and saw the TMA supervisor who was arrested in full uniform(even holding up her badge so the cameras can get a close up of it)holding a press confrence with her attorney. She is alledging she was arrested and physically abused for not fixing a parking ticket issued by a traffic aide to a on duty foot officer on his personal car.A question to the people in the know,doesnt the same G.O.'s apply to them?Giving a news confernce in a city of chicago uniform?
Last night I ran a 5k run for Chase Manhatan Bank and the whole race route was ran by TMA.As I was running by different road blocks I couldnt help to notice all their personal cars parked on the side walk. All of these vehicles had on their dash board a placard which was yellow and stated OFFICIAL BUSINESS CITY OF CHICAGO.Why are these TMA getting these placards while footgiuys get nothing for their vehicles????If I worked in 001 I would make it my mission to find these TMA vehicles and tag 'em regardless of that placard!!
Anonymous said...
The barking dog ordinance is just one more tool for neighbors to use to harrass each other. Its CAPS at its best. The next thing our "concerned
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Yuppies of the world unite!
will be demanding is that we enforce this ordinarnce.
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Isn't that waht we get paid to do? enforce the law of the land.
Someone needs to say this, THERE IS NO SUPERVISION ON THIS DEPARTMENT. For anyone else who worked in another state, or another department, the Chicago way is embarrassing. If every cop really did there job-and yes, many go beyond, but MANY do NOTHING, our manpower would be adequate. It is the culture in this city of NOT supervising that creates lazy whiney cops who think they're entitled
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I blaime the promo test process. Merit and secret strudy groups create the culture of failure.
(C)ity
(P)atronage
(D)epartment
Quick and easy fix:
Promo test for EVERY possition. Det to Supe. The test is simple. 400 multichoice questions on scantron right out the GO's. Get your results back within 10 min. Study your balls/ovaries off and best "thing" wins.
Can't cheat, can't get the answers.....sorry, questions before hand. It's all there for the dedicated.
Cause think about it, what is a supe supposed to do. He's supposed to know exactly what to do at any given moment.
edub;
We'll address a couple of your statements. You can tell us if we've answered them to your satisfaction or if you want further info and opinion.
THERE IS NO SUPERVISION ON THIS DEPARTMENT Sure there is. We see lots of bosses all over the place - oh wait, you mean QUALIFIED supervision. Well, there is, but it is so diluted as to be a rare site nowadays. "Merit" means political hacks and we have our own questions about the testing/grading processes. As more knowledgable supervisors leave, they can't pass on their knowledge - look at the dicks. Not as many vets teaching the young kids how to do a good investigation and the clearance rate shows it. Same thing throughout the Department. This also ties into the "lack of supervision" - if you aren't taught how, it isn't going to be done.
We've been to the ghetto parties and we've shut down a few. But we haven't done it by our lonesomes - we've brought plenty of help. We also know that a noise disturbance is something like a 3B job and in a hot district, will be ignored most of the night in lieu of shots fired, batteries and the like. And if you get a noise disturbance in a hot district, your backup is probably somewhere else. Just like you shouldn't go on a domestic while 99, you probably need to evaluate going to a party 10-4. We'd prefer two 10-4 cars minimum and a third if possible - which usually isn't.
We aren't sure if we are misreading you, but we don't see where we've supported the current system. We're always ragging on the manpower situation and the gang teams being pulled out of districts and the rapids doing 3 hours somewhere else, etc. Long lunches, sitting down on jobs, drive by waving, "unavoidable TVB's" and the like deprive coppers of well needed backup Supervision is only part of the problem as a lot of the supervisors we see are handling as many jobs as a beat car (mostly alarms, disturbances, dope jobs, and backup, but jobs that need to be handled anyway).
We are close to being a complelety broken department - some say we are there already. But we see more than a few people where we work who are just "glue" enough to hold it together. We just worry about when they hit the wall, because we are very thin.
Ive been in 001 a short time now. What a different world. Been on a mission to find the TMA's personal car. Havent found any yet. See lots of them taking the bus. So they are probably in the parking lots of 001, OEMC etc. But when i find 'em gonna ticket them
Thanks for the response SCC...I suppose I came across as more polarized than I am...my opinion is simply that if every officer on this department was willing to do their job to the best of their ability, the amount of time they are required to work, and with supervisors who hold them accountable, we would have enough manpower. There will always be calls for more police-I think (as you may partially agree) the real call should be a police academy that is not afraid to kick out dogs (ours is about the hardest academy to get fired from in the COUNTRY), a fair promotional system, a disciplinary system that is not afraid of clout or race (*see below) and real accoutability. *I've worked in several places, one of them being 002. On first watch there is an officer who is black, and his total activity for 2005 was 2 PARKERS. I was there a few years ago, and a white sgt. sparred him a few times for things like staying down on jobs for hours and calling a victims# off a pdt and 1Frank ing jobs over the phone. Every time a spar comes down, he claims racism, and that's the end. Ask anyone on 1st watch in 002. I call everyone out on their b.s. regardless of race, and I suggest the real police elsewhere do the same. I'm not afraid of the city, or of sticking up for what's right. If there were a few thousand more like minded people, (and this site definitely helps) things would change.
Gee, if everyone would just do their job......
Yes there are dogs on this job and dogs turn workers into dogs because workers get tired of handling job after job while the dogs milk their jobs.But then we are our own worst enemy, even the f.o.p. has told us not to take 10-4 jobs as a 99 unit w/o an assist car. But what do we do when we work 99 and get a dist.,alarm,sus.person,etc... Squad I dont need a backup I'll advised if I need help. Fvck that make this dept.come to full strength on manpower.Ask for that assist car and if a back log occurs fvck it,let the sgt.'s start handling some jobs and after a while they will start micro managing these dogs to clear their jobs in a timely manner. Remember the sqeaky wheel gets greased!
Which will happen first? The members of the department will by unknown means become imbued with a new philosophical and work ethic that turns things around and makes the department efficient or an irate citizenry decides it has had enough and throws the Daley gang out?
Chicago's finest????? What fatso bustout chumps. The nation laughs at this city's typical officer.
"Anonymous said...
Chicago's finest????? What fatso bustout chumps. The nation laughs at this city's typical officer.
5/26/2006 04:52:52 PM"
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Do they slick, or are you just a jagoff troll?
You know what else is wrong? The cadre at the Academy.
I went to the Academy with this idiot that we all thought would wash out. Little did we realize that she had heavy clout.
I see she was made detective (as if that was fair) then made Sgt in just a few months (she cold barely write a report, let alone know if one needed correction).
Then she was appointed to 018 (there's that clout again) was there for what, one week? Then appointed to the Academy.
So a brain dead, clout-heavy, detective and sergeant at the Academy.
And we wonder why most of the PPO's are coming out of there so screwed up.
It really isn't a mystery.
I know, I know.
Should be "could" and not "cold".
Not that she would recognize it. Right Sgt. O?
McGruff Says; Take a bite out of my ass Brother Phil!
Eat my stool, you fool!
Save a thesaurus shoot a liberal.
You would have to kill a nun to be kicked out of our academy. The hiring process on this job is a joke.
hey y'all this is the city of chicago,politics is and always will be the name of the game.in the american system of government people vote for the politicians who will represent us.that means who ever gets the most votes is the one who gets the position.hence if u get the position u take care of who got u there.if u get out the vote u have influence ie clout
tma's, as usual the news got it wrong!!! the tma that was almost arrested was a tma supervisor who was told to stay out of the intersection, refused and then when the p/o went out to the intersection to tell her to leave, she elbowed the p/o, at which point he arrested her, but the W/C in 18th,2nd watch refused to approve prob cause and she was rwoc.
Anonymous said...
You would have to kill a nun to be kicked out of our academy. The hiring process on this job is a joke.
5/26/2006 08:21:32 PM
Not true, I have heard that they have fired at least 11 recruits for various offenses within the last year.
well that po better keep copies of all reports:gocr,arrest report.if we had a real fraternal order they would be getting the po's story out there
Arf. You got it all wrong. Alderperp wants an ordinance outlawing people who look like dogs. Coppers to write tickets to only ugly folk and send them to Stickney or Burbank. Arf, gotta lift my leg on my neighbor's annuals now.
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SCC, why are Aldermen exempt from being investigated?
People have to go to them for Liquor Licenses let alone other offical crap.
Which also reminds me...
When the Police Department inspects a business, they typically get approx. $100 a pop.
WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO TO? Kool-Aid expenses????
How do you get a ballot referendum in this stinkin city? Let's say - one that restricts the number of alderman to 25? Sound like a plan? Any of you fuckin' political hacks have any insight?
Forget the the referendums. I say tie em up in the back yard on a short leash next to an overflowing garbage can and in a backyard who's owner doesn't know the meaning of pooper scooper. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
i say fuck these TMA's....make them fear us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rAnonymous said...
You know what else is wrong? The cadre at the Academy.
I went to the Academy with this idiot that we all thought would wash out. Little did we realize that she had heavy clout.
I see she was made detective (as if that was fair) then made Sgt in just a few months (she cold barely write a report, let alone know if one needed correction).
Then she was appointed to 018 (there's that clout again) was there for what, one week? Then appointed to the Academy.
So a brain dead, clout-heavy, detective and sergeant at the Academy.
And we wonder why most of the PPO's are coming out of there so screwed up.
It really isn't a mystery.
5/26/2006 06:40:33 PM
Anonymous said...
I know, I know.
Should be "could" and not "cold".
Not that she would recognize it. Right Sgt. O?
5/26/2006 06:42:15 PM
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This "Sgt" wouldn't begin with an "O" and end in an "gliore", would it?
It was 14 years ago, but I still remember being assigned to the midnight shift (for three consecutive periods (That's right: Remember when we didn't have watch assignment by seniority?)) and my neighbor's two dogs barked constantly while I tried desperately to get some sleep! I salute the aldercreatures!
I know it isn’t Sgt. Odliore, she is still in 018 and is a very good Sgt. She is treating the P.O.’s good and has made some very good decisions on jobs. I’ve also seen her stick up for coppers on her watch. Would work for her any day over some of the other Sgt’s out there.
To the 3:36 post what do you expect from a district where the District Commander Marainne Perry put in the CO book no white Officers are to work the desk and then beef about SOS coppers harrssing her people in the jets even though they were sent there because her Officers were not making many arrests or doing any police activity. The bosses are scared to death if you hold a minority accountable. Look at that fool Alderman last month beefing about the killings in his district and wanted Cline out, if Cline held the District Commander or Deputy Chief accountable in that District they would be whining how it's racist that they should be held accountable. You have to wonder which political organization put those bosses in that position.Any one know.
Anonymous said...
I know it isn’t Sgt. Odliore, she is still in 018 and is a very good Sgt. She is treating the P.O.’s good and has made some very good decisions on jobs. I’ve also seen her stick up for coppers on her watch. Would work for her any day over some of the other Sgt’s out there.
5/27/2006 10:35:38 AM
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PPO, I don't think you would know good leadership if it bit you in the ass.
PPO, I don't think you would know good leadership if it bit you in the ass.
5/27/2006 02:07:59 PM
Asshat, I'm not a PPO. Got a bunch of years on the job. I know she is a good Sgt., like 95% of the Sgt's in 018, would work for her any time. If your bitter about Sgt Ogliore getting becoming a Sgt., get over it. She is good people and would work for her any day.
I know she is a good Sgt., like 95% of the Sgt's in 018, would work for her any time. If your bitter about Sgt Ogliore getting becoming a Sgt., get over it. She is good people and would work for her any day.
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Keep telling yourself that moron and hope she never has to write paper for you. The first thing that she will do is insulate herself and hang you out to dry...that is unless you have the same clout that she does in which case you're a worthless ass too.
"Bunch of years"? Please don't fool yourself into thinking 3 years is a "bunch".
Go hide in your whole. For the working police, she will be a nightmare.
1:50, I remember working midnites and coming home to my parents house (was saving up for my down payment which I saved in 2 years... good parents). I'd come home and the dog, a black Lab, would hover over my bed panting on my head. The dog was adorable, and it just wanted to gooo out. I just wanted to sleep, so I'd let her out.
2 minutes, TOPS, and WOOF WOOF WOOF, as the dog started barking at all the kids walking by going to school. So maybe 10 minutes and then I'd call her in, hoping she was done.
This went on for two years. I'd have strangled any neighbor who called on me (most of the neighbors were employees of the CPD in one way or another).
So its a tough spot. Sometimes a dog just wants to be outside barking, and it doesn't want to come in. The ordinance should say 10 minutes from 10 PM til 7 AM. Other than that, its the nature of the city.
The barking hurt me just as much as it hurt anyone else, and outlawing barking is like outlawing some of the best doggies out there.
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