Saturday, July 08, 2006

What Time is It?

Why, it's Friday night! That means it's time for the Department to strip Rapid Response cars from "lower" crime districts and send them all over creation to attempt to control Garfield Park. In light of a pair of homicides involving heavy weaponry in North Lawndale and three other gang related shootings down south, the summer seems to be heating up quite a bit. Perhaps this is the year the Department finally confronts the manpower shortage?

Nah, probably not.

110 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm first..to Garfield Park!

7/07/2006 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck Garfield Park, do NOTHING if sent!!!

7/07/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Order the Ribs from Harolds!

7/07/2006 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ONE THING...............
Back up one another!!!!!!!!

7/07/2006 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

007 Dist copper given a DUI by the self appointed "Real Police", the Illiois State Police.
The copper in question was changing a tire when ISP received a call to help a stranded motorist on I-294. ISP responds, and issues said Chicago copper a DUI, but the copper refuses all tests.

Just something to think about when you see a state trooper on a stop. Or before you decide to haul ass and put your neck on the line because they are calling for help.

7/07/2006 11:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC I HEARBY DECLARE ANY CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER OBSERVED WEARING DRIVING GLOVES DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS A STROKE. SECONDLY ANY POLICE OFFICER OBSERVED WITH THOSE STUPID BLUE TOOTH LITTLE PHONES IN THEIR RIGHT EAR SHOULD BE SLAPPED FOR LOOKING RETARDED. THANK YOU MY RANT IS FINISHED.

7/07/2006 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS jobs has strokes, the ISP has strokes, come to think of it.....EVERY job has strokes!

To bum rap the ISP for an [alleged] incident [was it YOU or a 3rd party story] is not reasonible.

I'll put all my [1st hand] Professional Courtesy (ies) between CPD/ISP vs. your post any day.
Don't judge EVERYONE by ONE.
I'm not busting your balls, just trying to make a point.

Go ahead.....now bust mine!

7/08/2006 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://ispeeved.blogspot.com/

Go there and see what the ISP really think about CPD.

7/08/2006 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous turn down volume said...

Off topic

Their cordless and adjustable that's the point, way better then wired with or without headset's. although I hear the grey sony may have better volume. Wish I knew where mine is hiding. Why are you still shouting, thought you found the cap lock key. Must be a bad headset connection, huh?

Back on topic
With more officer's retiring the problem of manpower will get worse. What's up with the city indifference.

7/08/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LMAO 7/07/2006 11:52:29 PM

7/08/2006 12:20:00 AM  
Blogger Rue St. Michel said...

11:39 poster -

Most, not all ISP troopers are good guys. Here is what the ISP's have to say about the Trooper who dui'd the CPD officer:

Last Saturday Morning a Trooper receives a call about a possible DUI going northbound on I-294. The vehicel description is vague and the plate was wrong. Another call is received that the car struck the guardrail.....It's a pdo crsah. Tpr. Mike Cummings (D15) to the rescue ad goes on an assist call because it's not his patrol and that's what he does all the time because he is afraid of his shadow let alone a possible DUI. He is first on scene and goes t23 on an assist code. The Trooper on patrol finally arrives and Mike tells the Trooper hey I think hes' DUI and he's from CPD. The Tropper states that with 2 phone calls this will go away. Mind you the CPD guy is a little intoxicated and was changing a flat when Mike pulled up. The CPD guy is a gentlemen and has only 3.5 years with a tac unit in the 7th district. He states if you get me a tow truck I'll just go home. Mike tells the other Trooper that he won't be able to sleep at night knowing he let this guy go on a DUI. The CPD guy isn't that drunk and refuse evrything. Mike goes ahead and arrest him for DUI. A supervisor appeared a short time later and discusses the situation with Mike who by now has discovered that he's nort so afraid of his shadow after all.
Mike again states that that he can't sllep at night knowing that this menace to society is out there. The CPD guy is processed and after a CPD supervisor comes gets him. Mike makes him post a cash bond and takes his license. All the scumbags in the world get an I-Bond in cook county but not the CPD guy. The CPD guy thanks the other Trooper and supervisor for there help and is whisked away by one of his own. Now what the fuck is wrong with this picture? Its a single car crash?. He grazed the guradrail......little damage if any. Mike also writes him a ticket for 11-709a. He never saw him drive but was basing the ticket on the phone calls. Where are the list of witnesses? How about a phone log? Nothing. I guess after all these years patroling the Tollway Trooper Mike Cummings has earned his place in history. Comments please????? By the way he doesn't read this blog because he is too busy thumping his bible at home........
9:42 PM


Sounds like this guy Cummings is a stroke (like Sgt. Ernie Knight in Naperville) and his co-workers know it.

7/08/2006 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, excuse me, thank u

I saw the posting's on ispeeved, and I think there may have been civilian's on this site unless it's a proof registered blog site for ISP only. It was heavy that's for sure. Their also peeved about FOP #41 giving Blago money and the handling of their election process. Mentioned also was the tact office has 3.5 yr's at 7. Claimed initial call was anonymous, with vague make of car, no plate number could be provided and the driver might be intoxicated. The ISP was assist unit and insisted he couldn't sleep at night if he didn't write the tic. Yes CPD was outside his car changing a flat.

7/08/2006 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't know if others have seen this, but it's sick!! Hard to believe that there are such ignorant people out there. Actually, ignorant is too nice to describe them!

http://killpolice.com/blog/

7/08/2006 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, add on the homicide execution style of a latin king at 52 and homan 1000hrs Friday morning, are we beating last years numbers yet?

7/08/2006 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...Order the Ribs from Harolds!.."

Harold is the Fried Chicken King. Harold's sells chicken, gizzards, sweet potato pie and other various ghetto delights. But Harold's doesn't sell ribs. Never have, never will. Get the hell outta here with yo' fake-azz wanna-be ghetto po-po act. You're a moron.

7/08/2006 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is 11:29:46 possibly a "019 District Beret" with his lack of ghetto-knowledge?

7/08/2006 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC
What a crock of bull, if your the police or goverment employee you can't enter website disclaimer. Type in police for search and you can locate numerous Police gripe groups which put me to sleep zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

7/08/2006 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back on topic! The manpower situation on this department is becoming a real problem.Many of the "old school" vets are finally pulling the plug and taking their experience and knowledge with them causing a "brain drain." Also something else that's not being discussed or taken seriously is the amount of P.O's we lose due to attrition. Many of the college boys/girls that this department tries so hard to recruit are simply quitting and leaving for greener pastures. Seems that working a six day workweek,evening and midnight shifts,most weekends and holidays,not to mention the everyday $&!# we have to take off the public and some bosses just dosen't make for a rewarding career.To their advantage is youth and a postsecondary education. Not to mention the financial burdens of living in the city on what a young copper makes.And if they have a family,it's just that more difficult.In short,recuiting is not only more challenging,but retention as well.The city and the brass on this department need to get their collective heads out of the sand and address these issues. If they don't,things are going to go from bad to worse.And the people who will suffer the most will be the district copper on the beat and the average citizen.

7/08/2006 02:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As of 05Jul06 in CLEAR for code 0110 the # = 193

The same dates last year = 203

7/08/2006 02:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT ABOUT BEING HELD TO QUATER AFTER THE HOUR!!!! BULLSHIT

7/08/2006 02:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when can tact teams have say if they want to work a day off cancelled? no perks nomore

7/08/2006 02:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whats with a 4th tact team in 003? 11 man incident car and sgt for days? Toothless aguilara made this team.

7/08/2006 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous 025 copper... said...

Hey 1631 3rd watch you did it this time. I hope you know where you were at 1545 hrs when the first call came in at 3900 n. harlem about 4 m/1s and f/1s casing out tile store. I see you 11p it. 5 minutes later robbery occured by these said animals that you didnt see at 3900 n. harlem. I happen to know owner of store and you better believe hes gonna know your badges and number to ops and iad. I think you need about 15 days to think about your bullshit on 1631 bt. Keep fuckin over city workers and coppers that live on this beat. And nice move blowing off beat meeting by ONVIEWING a theft at Belmont/Central the other night. What cant you face the beat meeting. Things are going to change on this beat if it takes calls to Aldermans office to do it!
oh and for coppers on this beat we havent had beat car for a few days again on mids nice huh.....

7/08/2006 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous "real police" someday? said...

This is a bit off topic and will probably run long but here goes... Today I was talking with a few guys on the job about the job, specifically when did the job start getting shitty and unsafe. All 6 of us said it was when they required the college to get on. Us guys that came on before the rule had something that most of these "educated" POs will never have, street smarts and common sense. When I came on (only 12 years ago) and got into a district I started learn to be the "real police" by the REAL POLICE. We did real police work in real police fashion. In those days if someone called a 10-1 you had every free car in the zone show up to it and because of this we all went home at night. The reason I rant about this is because there was a 10-1 the other day in 010, we were in the district and responded, upon arrival there were 3 marked units on scene besides us. THATS IT! nobody got hurt so thats good but my partners and I were shocked, no outraged by this. We noticed a car on our way to assist so we went back that way. The rapid response car was still there doing "survielance". We did a history on the district and there were 6 cars available, 1 on a personal and 2 on lunch. Maybe those that read this should take this to their districts or units and share my disgust. Most of the newer police today are way to tied into the me, me, me thing. These kids are coming out of the academy as immature children, they think this job is a game and a popularity contest, the click bullshit is just that and the racist crap is worse. When I was learning this job on the street we had respect out here, people didn't fight with the police as much cause they knew within 60 seconds a major ass beating was coming in the form of about 20 cars. We jumped off our personals, lunches, survielance and most jobs for everyones 10-1, white, black, brown or whatever. We didn't like everyone we worked with but we made sure they got home. We also backed up officer(s) on traffic stops. I read the purple shades guy thing and whoever you two sissies are that just passed by and had the nerve to post shit about him you two are never going to be the real police. You see, the term isn't based on how many one bag arrests you make. Its much more, its the perception others have of you. Its your co-workers knowing you got their back, its them knowing they can come to you for advice or direction. More importantly, your the guy they want to be standing next to at Garfield Park, or any other riot, because they know you will do everything you can to make sure they get home to their family. As more and more of the REAL POLICE leave this job the more unsaafe the job will become. Daley's goal of having armed secretaries as the police seems more and more a reality. Take a look around at roll-call before your next tour, with each face you look at think about how fucked up it would be if they died on this job because you refused to show up at their 10-1. One person doesn't make a difference but maybe if we all started thinking this way it will. Be safe, we are all we got out there!

7/08/2006 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

quit crying! typical north sider and what is up with hearing about a toothless aguilara? must be doing the sgt.

7/08/2006 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous 025 copper... said...

Oh and same mules robbed a store at 6200 blk Milwaukee later at night, fine job 1631, worthless!

7/08/2006 02:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2 shot in the 025th tonight, around 0030, one dead in the ambulance, other shot 3xs, 2 face 1 neck..... but their was enough coverage.... only 1 car to garfield park for the night

7/08/2006 03:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And another dead in 014 as well. Buh Bye shit heads.

7/08/2006 04:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when will we be paid enough not to have a second job? as for 003, theres more incident cars then the day tact team cars. why even have a sgt for incident teams. must be for aquilera

7/08/2006 04:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Message to 016 testicle team or any 016th District copper not afraid of his own shadow, when DAN stands in front of a place of business for upwards of up to an hour , uh... he's probably up to no good ......or, here's an idea...HE'S GOING TO ROB THE PLACE.

7/08/2006 04:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 2:55:32 well put!!

7/08/2006 05:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/07/2006 11:39:13 PM
Anonymous said...

007 Dist copper given a DUI by the self appointed "Real Police", the Illiois State Police. ...
...Just something to think about when you see a state trooper on a stop.
---

Unlike many in the CPD, that State Police Officer does his job. Many CPD officers still think they can drive drunk any time they want and that they deserve a free pass from any law enforcement officer who has the misfortune to stop them.

What about my safety and my family's safety? Remember the people killed by drunk Chicago Police Officers?

Screw the drunk asshole coppers, if you drive drunk you risk arrest and prosecution. If you get caught don't whine like a teenaged girl, take what you deserve.

That rant about the wonderful "gold star family member" who was written a DUI in a north side district made me sick. That POS "gold star family member" was driving on a revoked driver license and had at least four previous DUI convictions. He got banged for felony driving under the influence. He deserved it and he deserves the prison time he will hopefully get.

So what were the first words out of his mouth when he got nailed driving drunk on a revoked license with all those previous convictions? Hey, give me a break, I am a "gold star family member."

Congratulations to the hard working officer who had the guts to do his job properly.

And the "gold star family member's" friends? Did they try and get their good buddy in some type of alcoholism treatment? No way, instead they launch written and verbal attacks against the officer who made the arrest.

My hat is off to the officer who had the professionalism and guts to make that arrest. We need more like him and far fewer of the "I'm the police so I can do anything and deserve a break from any and all coppers for any illegal or homicidal action I might take."

Drive drunk and you deserve what you get.

7/08/2006 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree if your a drunk you deserve a DUI, bet that some drunken coppers write citizens for dui but when they get it the cry tough s#@T

7/08/2006 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anothe college "Frat Boy" sucks to be him LOL

7/08/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You think all that is bad how bout of you live in 008 like a lot of coppers. You should check availible units on midnights and you will see that they have at least 2-3 down beat cars each and every night. What the fuck is phat phil doing. If i worked there I would be sending copies to the media. Where are all the beat cops. Nothing like paying taxes and getting fucked out of our just dues. Fuck the shit heads in the ghetto let them kill each other.

7/08/2006 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous No benefits for this guy! said...

So, a 007 tact guy is so drunk that people are calling on him weaving, AND he hits a guardrail and blows a tire, but it's the ISP that are the jagoffs here? Grow the fuck up! That asshole deserves his 30 days and god damn lucky to still be alive!! You are going to try and tell me that he wasn't "that intoxicated", but he couldn't control his vehicle to the point that civilians were calling on his drunk ass?!

Rue St. Michael, being from 025 especially, I would expect that you know your history and what can happen to coppers who drive drunk. I can think of 4 off duty P.O.'s in the last 7 or 8 years who killed someone after DUI that either worked in 025,A/5, or the crash happened in 025. Use your damn head! I have NO sympathy for these assholes.

7/08/2006 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/08/2006 06:54:13 AM

Fuck off Traffic Nazi. The guy was outside his car and there were no witnesses to place him in his car. Don't you have to be operating a motor vehicle to get a DUI? Traffic coppers, aside from having 625ilcs memorized are always the dumbest and weirdest fuckers on this job.

7/08/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahhhh it's been awhile. But this one got my little brain rolllin. If you're a copper and I mean anywhere not just CPD or ISP and you drink and drive FUCK YOU. When you took this job you knew you'd be held to a higher standard. It's painful to watch some p/o's stick up for these drunken coppers. Would you be so supportive if they hit your wife/husband and kids on their way home from a movie or family gathering? Fuckin doubt it. The point is not that he didn't but that he was capable of doing it. If you're out drinking and you get stopped and get a pass you're a lucky fucker. That's the day you should quit drinking because some copper saved your career. 12 years and 11 of them on a tac team no need for the desk jockey kool aid bullshit responses. Everytime I see a copper get a DUI I think that fucker could have killed my family or someone elses and I'm glad. When I see IAD come get these coppers for beating their signifigant others I think what kind of pussy hits a woman. When I see em get stripped for takin money or stealin dope I think good for those fuckers, because they endanger careers of everyone around them. If these same thoughts don't enter your mind you are a fuckin fool.

7/08/2006 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll drink to that last post....hic cup *&^%#@& !!

7/08/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:52

I second your motion!

7/08/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First and foremost young officers....if your drinking (shitfaced) and driving....seek help !! this is a different age we live in....you could cost someone their life, you could go to jail, you could lose your job, and you could be sued !! Sit at home with a twelve pack, drink with your nasty Mt Greenwood Irish wife, sit back and enjoy the drunk sex !!!! She will suck your dick again after (about) 6-7 beers!!

7/08/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a jerk off the person is who wants to call OPS and IAD on the copper who 11-Paul'd the suspicious person call. How do YOU know that they weren't doing the slow cruise around the store and just happened to see the marked unit coming A FRIGGIN' MILE AWAY and left the area for a short time as the squad car came by?

Get your self-righteous head out of your ass. It very well may have happened that this crew was NOT in the area when the 16th district car came by. If you were there to say or prove otherwise, you're an even bigger putz for allowing the robbery to happen and doing nothing about it. Screw you and your know-it-all attitude. Watch for the people at OPS and IAD (IAD?... why whould you call them?) to bite their lip as they try to contain themselves from laughing at you for being such a moron. If you weren't there to witness the "alleged" police inaction, you have NO BEEF to report. I hope you never get into my squad car, you crystal-ball-reading backstabber.

7/08/2006 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's something that may come to a shock to you....since requiring signed affidavits with OPS began.....complaints down....police anonymous tips up !!!! "Back-stabbing Bitches"

7/08/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There were more than three calls for 3900 N. Harlem by people in store! Bitches 11p job and they were not even near job I saw them, and yes I work in 016. Store robbed by four mules 5 minutes after code! Kick them off 1631 before something bad really happens on beat involving copper shootings. I feel for 025 copper poster cause I too live on 1631 beat. we never have police but when I try and police my beat I get told to stay north. This is bullshit and when sheets are made 1631 is purposely not maned Im not sure why? I hope someone is reading this about stated job cause I cant stand bt officers either.

7/08/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical 016th dst. "BS". 50% of them don't do anything, the other 50% bitch about them not doing anything.

7/08/2006 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The good news is that the copper will beat the case in court because he was not observed by the Trooper behind the wheel.

The bad news is that the Department doesn't give a bucket of warm spit about the technicalities of the law. He will be stripped, sent to call back and do his penence there until they finally decide to bang the fuck out of him. If anyone knows this guy, advise him to contact the Department's Substance Abuse Counselors. They will get him in a program and this will show he is being proactive about his "Drinking Problem" and this may be what will save his job.

7/08/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go 9th District. I heard they locked up Freed Hampton Jr for CTTSSP when he refused to leave the park. F@#$K HIM!!

7/08/2006 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry "Fred"

7/08/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

send 1612 to work 1631

7/08/2006 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous retired IAD rat said...

They will get him in a program and this will show he is being proactive about his "Drinking Problem" and this may be what will save his job.

7/08/2006 11:27:53 AM

Your first DUI is a straight 30 days, no matter what. I'm not saying the program is a bad thing, but it won't have any effect on the amount of time he'll take. DUI's are not seperation cases, unless it's the thrird or fourth one!

Does not matter what the court outcome is, get pinched for DUI, expect your 30 and say thank you.

7/08/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love this blog! Im glad were all on the same team!

7/08/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK YOU! I'm not on any team.

7/08/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch your wallets the Crook Co. Board while taking a break from the Stroger dead pool (I got 09 Aug) has stated it needs to borrow $200 million at 10% intrest to pay its bills. We elected these criminals so we are getting what we deserve. Be ready for huge tax increases soon to come.

7/08/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd bet the same guys crying foul about the copper getting DUI'd are the same ones who were crying about a lack of personal responsibility in society a few weeks ago. Ironic, isn't it?

7/08/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BACK UP TROOPERS STILL, I THINK 294 IS PATROLLED BY A DIFFERENT STATE POLICE DISTRICT WHICH IS DIST. 15. THEY JUST DO TOLLWAYS. THE DISTRICT CHICAGO GUYS ARE SOLID. THOSE ISP DISTRICT 15 GUYS ARE NOT DEPENDANT ON BACK UP LIKE THE DISTRICT CHICAGO TROOPERS WHO ARE RUNNIN AND GUNNIN ALL NIGHT LIKE US...STAY SAFE AND WHEN IS THE FUND RAISER...

7/08/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel for the 7th District copper who was DUI'd, but maybe in the long run he was done a favor. I know most of you won't see it like that, and I myself would not write a cop a DUI if it could be avoided. I prefer making sure they get home safe, and do not let them just drive away. My husband was on his way home from a night out when 911 calls were made by citizens reporting him as DUI. In NO WAY do I blame the police for his actions, but had an officer pulled over my husband before his DUI accident involving a fatality, I would have my husband at home (not in prison for 4 years), saved over $40,000 in attorneys fees, no civil lawsuit, and not have to think about the woman who's husband is now dead because mine made a bad decision to drink and drive. I have no doubt that had he been given a DUI, I would be one of the ones screaming about what an asshole the PO was and professional courtesy, but after being on the other side of things it makes you see the bigger picture. Watch out for each other, make sure everyone gets home safe and don't drink and drive.

7/08/2006 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy oh boy, reading this it seems like police officers need a NAAPO (National Association for the Advancement of Police Officers), or a POCLU (Police Officers Civil Liberties Union), or a NOPO (National Organization for Police Officers). That way, we can advance special interests of Police Officers, ensure they get affirmative action and special treatment, and stop the harassment of this special minority by the police.

Every time this comes up people start screaming like the police are a special little minority that has been oppressed. We gots our rights! Da man beenz oppressed!

I wouldn't have DUI'd the guy based on the descriptions above, but when you joined the CPD you didn't join the Gangster Disciples. I didn't join a gang for the purpose of breaking laws, and I don't know why some feel like thats what they joined when they took their oath.

7/08/2006 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear only 8,500 sworn members on the job, not 13,500 Phil swears up and down to in press confrences. Start a thread on that!

Oh and shame on our FOP for endorsing Johnny Haircut Blagovich after he stood at the bullshit House of Hope and lambasted all police as racial profilers. Terrible call Donahue!!

7/08/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad Trooper Mike Cummings had to be a jagoff. Writing a guy for a DUI when you don't even see him driving is terrible. I'd like to see him to testilie to that bullshit and say he saw him driving.
I have run into some really cool Troopers over the years, there are a few assholes in EVERY department.

7/08/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting post from the ISPeeved blog:
I can't believe....no i take it back. I do believe with the quality of people the dept is hiring these days that we'd get an idiot or idiots saying a cop shouldn't be arrested for a DUI in a forum where the public has access to all your comments. What the hell were you thinking?
Your thoughts on matters such as this have absolutely no place here
for the public to see.
What a bunch of sorry stupid individuals you are.
You're not parked side by side talking to another Trooper, you're in a public forum you idiots! But as i said earlier, this is what the dept has come to.
A bunch of idiots that don't think
before they write.
What do you think the public, people who probably respected us before reading your comments thinks of us now?
Most of them probably logged on here thinking they might get an insight into what was going on with the ruling bodies and how we are being hamstrung but not now.
What they see is a branch of the CPD. And that is exactly what D-Chgo has become.
I chose to join this dept years ago because i knew what the CPD was all about. I grew up in there!
And while there are many good CPD guys, there are a lot more that think they are above the law.
Read the newspapers!
We are the "POLICE" People! Hello??? Or did you forget that somewhere down the line.
When the ISP took over the x-ways in the city i knew this was coming and that it would only be a matter of time before some of us compromised our integrity.
I'm glad i'm retired so i won't be affiliated with this new "GAINER" regime of cops, and yes that's what you are a bunch of chicago cops that wear the ISP uniform.
The ISP has lost it's identity and respect in the northern part of this state.

4:33 PM

7/08/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck the ISP.

Next time they call for help, I'm taking lunch.

7/08/2006 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like anyone who would say such a thing has ever responded before for such calls. Bitch, please.

7/08/2006 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous enough is enough said...

I chose to join this dept years ago because i knew what the CPD was all about. I grew up in there!
And while there are many good CPD guys, there are a lot more that think they are above the law.
Read the newspapers!
We are the "POLICE" People! Hello??? Or did you forget that somewhere down the line.
When the ISP took over the x-ways in the city i knew this was coming and that it would only be a matter of time before some of us compromised our integrity.
I'm glad i'm retired so i won't be affiliated with this new "GAINER" regime of cops, and yes that's what you are a bunch of chicago cops that wear the ISP uniform.




Looks like you lost your integrity a long time ago, it's better that you are retired.(There are alot more that think their above the law, READ THE NEWSPAPERS?) This is your statement. You grew up there, where is the there? In Chicago, or where you weaned in uniform during birth inception?
I'm ready to retire from CPD and while I dislike what I have been seeing taking an acclerated pace in the quality of some yes, some officer's coming on for the past 17 yrs. I still hold to the fact that the majority will prevail as good officer's in spite of bad mgmt.
So you trust and measure CPD officer's based on the Liberal Media that just happen's to bash all officer's in all agencies period. Your actually lacking in both credibility and integrity. You sound more like a liberal citizen who dislikes Chicago police deeply.
For you CPD officer's that will miss us old timer's we taught you well, were still a few among you and we trust you (are) and do have the potential to be COP's, pass the baton and thank you. You can find us throughout the dept. back us in word and deed. Stay Safe brother's and sister's.

7/08/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If u are ordered by a supervisor to submit to a breath test and refuse, what are penalties?? will you recieve more time for refusing. or more time when you blow and your .30. This could be involving an incident unrelated to driving a vehicle. what do you think?

7/08/2006 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

separation from dept. most likely-refusing direct order.

7/08/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ahhhh it's been awhile. But this one got my little brain rolllin. If you're a copper and I mean anywhere not just CPD or ISP and you drink and drive FUCK YOU. When you took this job you knew you'd be held to a higher standard. It's painful to watch some p/o's stick up for these drunken coppers. Would you be so supportive if they hit your wife/husband and kids on their way home from a movie or family gathering? Fuckin doubt it. The point is not that he didn't but that he was capable of doing it. If you're out drinking and you get stopped and get a pass you're a lucky fucker. That's the day you should quit drinking because some copper saved your career. 12 years and 11 of them on a tac team no need for the desk jockey kool aid bullshit responses. Everytime I see a copper get a DUI I think that fucker could have killed my family or someone elses and I'm glad. When I see IAD come get these coppers for beating their signifigant others I think what kind of pussy hits a woman. When I see em get stripped for takin money or stealin dope I think good for those fuckers, because they endanger careers of everyone around them. If these same thoughts don't enter your mind you are a fuckin fool.

7/08/2006 10:29:54 AM

And how many DUI's have you written in your career????

Based on your statement, It should be every DUI that you stopped. However we all know that you have DISCRETION! as do I. If someone is shitfaced drunk, and has already been involved in an accident with another car, well I'm gonna have to DUI you. However, if you are a little intoxicated and havent gotten into an accident, I'll gladly call someone to come and get you or, if we are close enough give you a ride home.

Hopefully, the off duty PO that I helped get home safe will wake up in the morning and realize how close he came, when he sees the missle card in his pocket that contains the address of where his car is located.

Be safe and as always back each other up!

7/08/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Dumb Fuck - Any results from a DIRECT ORDER can only be used against you by the department for rule violations. A action forced upon you by a DIRECT ORDER can not be used against you in any criminal prosecution. You are still an American Citizen first then a cop. That's is why IAD reads you your criminal rights when they are going to seek charges and not administrative rights.


Take the time to get to know the law if you really want to do good as a cop. Many times you can use it for your advantage.

7/08/2006 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous 016 po po said...

I feel for 025 copper poster cause I too live on 1631 beat. we never have police but when I try and police my beat I get told to stay north. This is bullshit and when sheets are made 1631 is purposely not maned Im not sure why? I hope someone is reading this about stated job cause I cant stand bt officers either.


You know why?? Anything south of Foster is the Ghetto!!!! You fucking hillbilly living near the HIP, afford some better housing and get better service. All I know is here in EP we patrol our own not the south end ghetto or 025 north we like to call it here.Chump

7/08/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everybody calm down...I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you have a real beef in 016 with neighbors etc. feel free to call me and I will do my best to take care of the matter, or get someone who can. M/F ing each other sucks. The shithead on the street has more respect from us now, than we do for each other!
direct w/ voice mail 312-742-4527-Mike Lappe

7/08/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike....you da man!!! Always a gentlemen!!

7/08/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Until the higher ups start hiring thousands of patrol officers, maybe we should eliminate the bike patrol. (We eliminated the walking posts and replaced it with vehicles for a reason.... to respond to calls from a distance away, in a timely manner.) We can find some extra manpower in traffic, narcotics, sos, ect. to answer these 911 calls.

7/08/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to speak up Mike, your one of the few still left up here. By the way if you refuse a direct order you'll be fired. You may beat a criminal charge, but you'll have to go back to flipping burgers...

7/08/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger Fell Out said...

Being a CFD medic, the D.U.I. thing get's a little tricky for us. We understand no one wants to do paperwork, but when we walk into the hospitals and these patients reek of alcohol, we have to put in our report "Positive ETOH"...which means we smell alcohol or they admitted it to us. A long time ago, a copper from 6 was friggen pissed that we wouldn't "change our report" because he didn't want to do the paper. The guy was royally wasted, and you could get drunk just by sitting in the back of the ambulance with him. I know we have been given passes off-duty, but sometimes this shit can't be avoided.

7/08/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know why police officers think it is cheaper to live in the suburbs. Don't any of you have relatives or friends that live there? In appealing suburbs the homes are the same or higher than ours, taxes start at $6000.00 a year. I know people that pay $11,500.00 a year in property taxes only 20 minutes away from Chicago. Don't forget garbage pick up and water.

7/08/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of Mike Lappe and class acts, I had the pleasure of working for Lt. Al Pohl today at the fest. Another class act and a gentleman to boot.

7/08/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

signed Gene Roy

7/08/2006 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, I'm not Gene Roy. I would leave my name but then you would accuse me of sucking up. And for the record, I don't work in 009. As a matter of fact, I don't even work in the same area as 009. I'll probably never work for Lt. Pohl again. I just like to make positive comments when they are warranted.

7/08/2006 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why ARE "meritious" Sgts and Sergeants who have never worked the Dectective Division asigned to Area 2. What a FUCKING JOKE! THESE FUCKS HAVE NO CLUE!!!!! This from an A/2 Dick who has been in the unit for years.

7/08/2006 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

U GOT THAT RIGHT ABOUT A/2 PC-VC. RONNIE PALMER< WHERE ARE U! YOU'RE THE BEST. YOU KNEW WHAT THE FUCK YOU WERE DOING. NO CLUE WITH THESE ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7/08/2006 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>(We eliminated the walking posts and replaced it with vehicles for a reason.... to respond to calls from a distance away, in a timely manner.)<<

The underlying reason was in response to the Summerdale scandal. Wilson put everybody he could into a radio car and then ENCOURAGED the public to call for anything. It was supposed to make POs accountable for their time (by keeping them busy responding to complainers). End of the day, it just started rewarding the squeakiest wheels in every neighborhood. Which is how the police ended up becoming social workers.

And also the reason why the police lost touch with communities, whereas foot posts used to know everybody by name, and if they didn't know them than it automatically made them suspicious.

Strangely, 13,500 police officers (if true) would just about cover every single street in Chicago as a walking post. Maybe the CPD should have an adopt-a-street program and assign every officer one block to be familiar with, whether they are in the field or a house-mouse. Maybe tell them that once every two weeks they are expected to go visit people and businesses on the block to see what problems need fixin.

Or maybe they could do it as a pilot program for a few particularly troubled streets. As much as I complain about old timers, things used to work better for a reason. Wilson threw out the baby with the bathwater with the whole 9-1-1 system.

7/08/2006 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If a windoe is broken, call A/2 Robbery. Right-new name- it's property crimes asshole and 99.99% of their bullshit cases are suspended. Have not made one arrest in a year. What a wated FUCKING BULLSHIT UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7/08/2006 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALLRIGHT MEN THE WIFE IS OUT OF TOWN JUST ME AND JOHNNY WALKER ENTERTAIN US!

7/08/2006 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My one question for the copper from 007. If you didn't drive your car, how'd it get on the expressway?

C'mon guys, any ASA with half a brain will ask that question. He/she should just consider him/herself luck all they hit was a guard rail.

7/08/2006 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

08:46:25 PM
"maybe the CPD should have an adopt-a-street program and assign every officer one block to be familiar with"

If this person works the street, we're doomed

7/08/2006 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:54, if you have more than one year working the streets and have not yet developed sarcasm skillz mad enough to read through that, I hope you don't have kids. Ever.

7/08/2006 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You may be right but he's got a point. We respond to too many bullshit calls, things that have absolutely nothing to do with the Police. Maybe if the public was re-educated about who and what we are we wouldn't be doing this. Perhaps our time could be better spent if we returned to the old ways of foot Officers being responsible for a particular area and being held to that area and not having to respond to all these B/S calls promptly just to appease the public, things would be better. For instance, 75% of a district would be foot Officers and the other 25% would be in cars for hot calls that a footman couldn't get to fast enough. Or something along those lines.

7/08/2006 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This must be more sarcasm or maybe I missed that new math class. What happens when you have maybe 3 cars available? I guess the 2.25 officers can run a couple miles to assist the one officer in trouble.

7/08/2006 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently none of you have ever made a DUI arrest, you DO NOT have to be behind the wheel to be convicted. Actual physical control is all it takes, so if the O.D. copper was changing a tire, you know he had the keys in his pocket........Guilty as charged!

7/08/2006 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A quick google search reveals that Chicago has 228.5 square miles. Total. Make that 16x8 full street blocks per square mile = 128. And that's assuming that every inch of Chicago is not a forest preserve or privately patrolled open factory grounds or parks etc.

128x 228.5 = 29,248 full street blocks.

13,500 police officers and you could give every PO responsibility of sorts for 2 full street blocks.

Accounting for days off, medical (abusers), three watches, perhaps 25% in roving cars, you'd get perhaps 1 officer responsible for perhaps 16 street blocks (average) on each watch.

In other words, I'm watering down the one PO per 2 street blocks (based on the base numbers) to one field PO per 16 street blocks on each watch.

Hell, maybe just make this program a second/third watch program between 7AM and 7PM (with a bit of overlap).

Based on that, you'd have 4 POs walking around between 103rd and 11th, Kedzie to Pulaski, on each watch (if this were an "average" area).

Screw the numbers. All I'm saying is that foot posts have their purpose, and a lot of neighborhoods would be better off if a PO knew the people in them on a bit more of a personal level.

Its too bad the police department continually moves farther and farther from this.

Hell, Wilson's idea might have worked okay, if the powers-that-be didn't instantly try to find ways to hide 60% of the department from patrolling. Gotta doubt that there were only 40% in patrol (actually on the streets and responsible for something every day) when Wilson came up with the idea.

7/08/2006 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unbelievable, blue shirts get d.u.i.s but white shirts get a free pass. how many times have you or i seen that happen. 99.9 percent of the coppers on this blog have been d.u.i. sometime in their lives.

7/08/2006 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He should have said the driver went to call and he's the passenger.

7/08/2006 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

........to one field PO per 16 street blocks on each watch...


Sounds like a fucking beat to me....

7/09/2006 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY 10:24......FUCK YOU!

7/09/2006 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the beat cars and rapids would stay on the beat you wouldn't need any of these new foot patrol ideas. Even if your a complete dog ass all you really have to do is drive in circles on your beat. When the shitheads take notice that your always in the area and constantly driving down the block it will be in the back of their head that you could turn the corner at any minute. When I work with different people they all have the bad habit of not being anywhere near the beat and sure as shit that’s when the hot call comes out and we are the last one on scene. I know the scenery gets old real fast but rotating partners on different cars could solve that problem.

7/09/2006 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:14, that would be smaller than the smallest beat in the city. 16 street blocks would be Chicago to Division (4) by Pulaski to Hamlin (4).

Can you think of any beat in the city that is smaller than .5 miles by .25 miles? Thats how small 16 street blocks is. Anyone think it would be that difficult to keep track of names and faces for 16 blocks?

It wouldn't if you had at it for a few months, though by then you'd probably be a threat to the local alderman. Come to think of it, they would HATE this idea unless they could make sure it was only local dems doing the walking and talking.

7/09/2006 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TRU is the best thanks tru for doing a great job

7/09/2006 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jag off with problem in 016! BID HERE ASSHOLE! WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!!! THERE ARE WORKING POLICE HERE!!! AND WE DID COME FROM THE WEST AND SOUTH SIDE BUSY DISTRICTS!!

* MERITORIOUS BOSSES GALORE
* Can't get a day off(p-days,c/u cancelled)
* 9 1 man cars on 1st watch 13 beats you figure it out
* Bosses say Get more movers (can't running from job 2 job all friggin night in a RAP)
* Take this call (oh its 6 miles away and its 1800 hours.)
* district divided by x-pressway get across 3 ways
* Wanna go to TACT? Bid here with 3 years on job get it on reverse seniority!
* More ex-tact guys from busy dist working watch than on TACT
* 3rd watch get detailed to 011 or 025 every fri,sat,sun for the busiest 4 hours w/nothing you can say about it
* Finish arrest report in 10 minutes, wait 2 hours for approvals cause sgts (at lunch) and WC is in the field or doing ???
* Stand in the Hall cause roll call room is locked
* Deal w/asshole copper kids all the time. But don't arrest them just return home for REAL JUSTICE (most of the time)
* Have a superintendant that tells your commander to quit whining and get out of the office! NO MANPOWER FOR YOU!
* get cameras put in your car
* get you out of shit when you beat your wife or fuck up
* Deal with 016th district assholes who got sent here on a phone call out of the academy. ONly 2 or 3 total in district who are outstanding and know there shit. Others are useless.)
* Have good sgt who stands up for his workers get fucked over by inspector
* GANG TEAMS DETAILED OUT OF DISTRICT EVERY OTHER MONTH no day gangs
* TACT TEAMS detailed out
* MUST HAVE 20 OR MORE detailed out!

I could go on and on, give us 40 more people to man the cars. What happened to the hospital cars? guys in the parks? Foot posts? Look at your sheets! ARE ALL POSTS FILLED. We had 8 foot posts, now NONE, Park guys=NONE, Hospital car=NONE, Traffic cars=NONE WE ARE FIGHTING FIRES HERE! RUN HERE RUN THERE IT'S ALL WE CAN DO.

****WE NEED FRIGGIN MANPOWER *******

7/09/2006 04:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/08/2006 10:29:54 AM
back sir

7/09/2006 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's just a fucking job... real police this real police that... go to WORK and do your fucking job answer your jobs, lock mother fuckers up, back up one another, and go home safe.7/09/2006 04:01:08 AM are you serious? going to work does not mean driving around get 2 jobs and go home. deal with it boo hoo no gang teams, boo hoo no tact teams, boo hoo i get detailed to a busy district, boo hoo the roll call room is locked, holy fuck your fat ass is got to stand up for 15 min. for roll call. this job is fucked up. get a fucking life. you call yourself a policeman. keep your mouth shut and do your job

7/09/2006 05:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

016?? Coppers from West side and South Side?? What's that 014 and 001?? Get over yourself, department is short all over and do nothings all over.

7/09/2006 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get over the sworn DUI arrests. They have happened in the past, and they will continue to happen.
Unfortunately, those of us in the law enforcement profession should be more professional when it comes to drinking and driving. Having experienced 3 unfortunate accidents whereas I was struck in my MARKED SQUAD by impaired drivers on Chicago streets in my 20+ years of law enforcement, I feel no sympathy whatsoever for ANYONE foolish enough to get behind the wheel while impaired; Simply put, you are a DANGER and an EMBARRASSMENT to all of us. If that's what it takes for some of us to wake up and see that a problem exists with alcohol, then so be it. And with respect to the poster that spoke about the CPD copper recently cited for DUI while changing a tire, being outside of the car with keys in your pocket does NOT constitute control of the vehicle. Either you are in the car or out, and the engine is either RUNNING or not (the car does NOT have to be in motion for the driver to be charged with DUI). Grow up, and take responsibility for your actions. You're the POLICE, CONDUCT YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY. Quit whining when you place yourself in a position you can neither explain nor defend! Stay safe and God bless you all!

7/09/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

05:38

Whatever you have inside your head to keep your skull from collapsing into your ass, it isn't brains. Don't light a match, curse the darkness. The poster on 4:01 identified legitimate problems facing 016. If you don't think there are problems, then you haven't been paying attention. However, in your world the messenger is the problem. You must be a boss. In bossworld the only problems are those identified by bigger bosses and politicians. I bet if you were told that the desk sergeant was passed out drunk, an alderman had entered the lockup and released three of his friends charged with murder, and the garage was on fire your response would be, "If you don't like the job, quit."

7/09/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since the inception of this "Garfield Park Detail" bullshit, robberies in 019 have tripled.

But hey, the tax-paying citizens of this city don't seem to count for sqaut. So, lets just steal a car that could be working on a robbery mission, to cater to some low-life, welfare collecting scumbags!!!

I have a solution for the "troubles' in 011....... drop a fucking bomb on the mother fucker!!!

7/09/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK THE PROBLEMS IN 016,ACCORDING TO A LOT OF COPPERS ON THE BLOG, IF IT GETS BAD ENOUGH THEN THEY CAN CLAIM THEY ARE THE BEST COPS IN THE CITY BECAUSE THEIR DISTRICT SUCKS!!!

7/09/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Manpower is the answer plain and simple, 016 is busy, they get alot jobs, yes not a bunch of shootings but busy regardless, domestics up the ass, robberies way up, burglaries, thefts, etc, put some bodies in the districts!

7/09/2006 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/09/2006 05:38:45 AM
016 says "fuck you jag-off"
Most of us do our job and we do have legitimate complaints!

NO FOP TO HELP US!
MGT STROKES EACH OTHER!
BULLSHIT STATISTICS RULE!

I'm happy to go to work and catch asshole robbing an old lady.
I like to go to Garfield park and see why I bid out of that area 4 shithole after 10 years.
I will put my career stats up against yours any day. More dope, guns and search warrants than you will ever see.
But wait i'm responding to the traffic accidents/domestics/assist fire/barking dogs/off duty police crap/ BULLSHIT SEAT BELT MISSIONS and other assorted bullshit! all over the 37 square miles of the district.
AND GETTING BITCHED AT FOR NOT WRITING MOVERS!!!!

Fuck you jag off I will be the one driving lights and sirens from belmont and cumberland accident to your burglary in progress at devon and central in rush hour. BECAUSE THINGS ARE FUCKED UP. THINK WE DON'T KNOW!
********* F U C K ***************
********* F U C K ***************
AND
********* F U C K ***************

sorry had to vent...

7/09/2006 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT's okay to vent.

But, I get sick and tired of the "my district is busier, my dick is bigger, i love sweet hispanic ass..ole, a/2 gun team is HOT, CPD is better than ISP crap!"

Just do what you can for the time that you are here, we'll all be old-timers someday. Some officers are better than others, some are worthless but at the end of the day what difference will it make?

I used to vent and bitch alot, until a wise former partner of mine said "relax..we can't control what anyone else here does, we can only control what we do!"

So we did, what we did for 8 hrs, had some Fun and hopefully made a difference!

I still try to do some quality police work, and marvel at some of the stuff that I witness everyday (some good, some bad).

I look forward to retirement..its still a ways off, but I can see it on the horizon!

Well chill out and stay safe.

P.S. I second the previous post regarding Mike Lappe..great guy, even a greater cop..He is the guy that even Seiser has to stare up at!

7/10/2006 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well put 1:02, well put! Just relax everyone and enjoy the job. Be safe

7/10/2006 04:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Order the Ribs from Harolds says"

LMAO

If you have the menu memorized, you may have gastrointestinal problems beyond repair and may need a colon cleaning from Hoover or the Dirt Devil.

Eat shit and Die!

List the Best sit down restaurant in 011? (Is there one?)

7/10/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, we just went/go to 012 or 014 to eat.

7/10/2006 06:32:00 PM  

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