Gun Turn In - Update
Some info from someone who really ought to know:
- The Gun Turn In tally is currently at 2,976. Just short of 3,000. This number is a little misleading, as it includes approximately 150 BB guns that were collected at $10 a piece.
- Most of the stuff is crap, but there are a few pieces that were excellent. Several WWI and WWII era pieces including 1911s, a P38 (all original), and a couple of WWII era Japanese rifles that were obviously collected on the battlefield and sent home by our fighting men.
- the guns are being sent to ERPS piecemeal. The current plan is to do some training with the recruits and allow them to do all the inventories, and then send the weapons to ERPS in small batches as they get done with them over the next several months. Apparently ERPS just finished with all the weapons from the last gun turn in (in April) a few weeks ago, and is just not prepared to deal with a single bulk shipment like that again.
- the City got a deal on the Mastercards they were handing out - apparently they expire in 6 months, rather than the normal year time limit. Wonder how much they saved on that, and where the money went. I guess they forgot to mention that in the press conference.
A couple of points by us:
- maybe the city ought to look into donating or auctioning off some of the museum pieces? Why melt down a World War II collector's piece worth $12,000 when the mayor needs every dime he can lay his hands on?
- Where are these things being stored until they're sent to E&RPS? Is E&RPS that short handed like everyone else in the Department seems to be? Everyone except 35th Street that is. And having recruits inventory the guns? Is this before or after they're tested ballistically for links to crime scenes? What kind of legal ramifications would there be with chain-of-custody issues for a turn in tested at the crime lab and then inventoried months later by a recruit?
- We're betting that almost no one knows about the 6 month limit on those Mastercards. THAT would be an extraordinary bit of info to get out into the media.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
19 Comments:
you see the recruit who got dropped for push-ups for walking out of roll-call. Then he whined like a B____, guess six months on the job entitles you to decide what roll-calls you will or will not attend.
WTF? It took ERPS just now to finish the inventorying process from the last weapon turn in in April. We would say give those guns to the A/2 Gun Team and they'll have that process done in less then a week. They are that good. That is why everyone is jealous to high heaven of them. WTF? Leave the A/2 Gun Team alone for pete's sake. They get kudos from us and for all those jealous cocksuckers out there of the the A/2 Gun Team, try telling that to one of them personally. That is what this blog hides, the cowards with the small balls. Eat me.
when and where???
Whats the point of testing the guns ballistically?? They were collected with no questions asked right? Just a big waste of time and money.
Where was this?
11:58
I agree. The cowards who write their garbage about Area 2 Gun team on this blogsite are really, really jealous of us.
I see the way you all look when we pull up to a scene. You act as if we are celebrities. That's cool, but some of you nimrods take it too far!
Buy some beer, get laid and quit bitching about how we make you look bad. Thanks.
Why would you advertise the 6 month expiration. Let the mutts lose their cash!
I don't get it, piss and moan about doling money out for guns and then "expose" the 6 monthexpiration limit.
help me help you to help me to understand. what am I missing?
Secondly, who cares what is offered for the guns? less is better as far as I'm concerned. If they would turn in their guns for a bucket of Harold's, that would be ok too.
Is this really an issue?
It is not unusual for a member of the Area Two gun team to turn down a meritorious promotion to stay with the crew. They are "the boys who make the noise."
Let me first say, why hate on something that could have saved YOUR life. In this big city, their are far too many guns on the street. The city did get 14 Assault Weapons that could have been used to kill any one of us. You people are never satisfied. This is to help US in the end. Also, this is the holiday season where suicide rises 70%. Maybe the city just saved a life?
Who cares about how long the MC lasts for. This is Christmas, they have already all been spent.
For your information, these are recruits that have finished their training that are doing the inventorying. They are getting real training while collecting a very good salary. How many of US really know how to inventory correctly. Well, they are being taught.
They had an anonymous gun turn it. No chain of custody idiot! They will all be tested and then destroyed. If a weapon is found to be used in a crime, it will be dealt with as such. Any person that killed someone with that gun already wiped it clean. Who trusts the police?
ERPS and the State cannot process that stuff quickly, so piece mill is ok. Did you ever think of that?
I don't hear anyone complaining except you!
Just goes to show...the guns are where all the sh!t is A/2, AKA 022.
The A/2 Gun Team brings in more guns then I do and more then probably everyone else. THANK YOU. Every gun you guys get is one less that I have to worry about on the street.
Thanks again and happy holidays.
You pogues wouldn't know the definition of an assault rifle if it jumped up and bit you on your fat asses. An assault rifle is capable of selective fire (that's full automatic for you non military types). A semi auto rifle is just that. A rifle.
What a bunch of Daley puppeted asshats.....
Lets see; thats a C-note per assault gun. Ive got 3, 4 if u include my Remington 1187 which alot of uz asshole gun-grabbers consider it to be. So for $400, Im suppose to disarm and leave myself naked to the mercy of these gangs/ career thugs? $400 isnt even a flight and a hand-job in Las Vegas!!! I DeCline!!
Why dont all u liberal pukes kiss my ass!
12/19
8:34pm
You gotta be a fucking goof. The A/2 gun team is going after gun collectors, retired coppers and firemen and none of those pinches are in A/2. Hey you pussies what you gonna do when you gotta produce your bullshit CI from one of your fucked up warrants. Word is you guys do a shitty search on a warrant and you like to take stuff that somehow doesn't get inventoried. You rotten fucks are what is wrong with this job just like the dirty assholes from SOS. Give all of us a bad name and cost all the honest tax payers more money when the lawsuits on your bullshit gets settled by the city lawyers. Fucking pukes come to my house with one of your bullshit made up warrants and let's see who is the real police.
To Mr. Real Police 06:21:31 PM :
Yup, the best place for a gun "collector" to keep his unregistered and illegal collection is in the city laying around the house. No houses in the city get burglarized so its ok for him to keep his collection of illegal firearms in there.
Whos word are you talking about? That is a pretty serious accusation you are making and unless you know first hand quit slandering your fellow officers on hearsay. We all know that beefs about missing money or itmes are very rare after a search warrant. Nobody would make a false complaint against the officers that just locked them up and took their tools of the trade away from them, no, not the good honest citizens of chicago.
And I must have missed the bulletin about fireman being able to have handguns in the city, please post the order # so I can look it up.
If I read your post correctly you seem to be implying that you would look forward to a shoot out with your fellow coppers if they tried to serve a search warrant to your house right? You sure are the real police all right. You sound like an angry and unstable person. Try getting some help, you and your family will be much better off.
12/21
12:11am
Yeah failure to register is a reason to do a search warrant? NO it's quasi so let's make up a lie to get a head and look good. You know the truth comes out in this shit but when it does the media doesn't report it very often and the city shuts up and just pays off on the law suit. How about a unit that actually does a legit search warrant on a legit bad guy what a novel idea for some of you dumb fucks we got on this job. All smoke and mirrors and I'll bet nobody goes to jail but hey A/2 gun team gets the publicity and fucks over another citizen. And assholes like you wonder why people hate the police.
The A/2 Gun Team if you are doing such a good gob as you tell everybody quit crying about other coppers and what they think about you. You are still a patrolman not a rock star. I know alot of coppers that have been getting guns off the street way before you were even born so just do you job and have some pride and not an ego.
12/21
12:11am
You can not possibly be the police. Unless you were there, if you were you are one of the A/2 assholes, then how would you know what was legal or illegal? Learn the difference between a bulletin and a General Order dickhead. About the time you were in diapers fucknuts Mayor Byrne made it so law abiding citizens could no longer register handguns in the city. Now pay attention those citizens who had their handguns legally registered at that time were grandfathered and have to re-register their handguns every year. Law abiding citizens can still register newly acquired rifles and shotguns in the city. If you are on the job then you gotta be some kind of goof if you think that city quasi criminal laws mean anything but your kind thinks that's ok to fuck over good people to enforce that bullshit because you would suck a dick to get a gun pinch like that rather than have the balls to make street stops and take a gun from a gangbanger. Learn the city laws dumbfuck before you and your kind of copper goes out and fucks over law abiding people because you and the Area2 gun team are too afraid to get guns off the street from the truly dangerous criminals. Now I suggest you stay out of my way pussy and go hang with your kind of pussy while actual police officers look for gangbangers and other criminals to fuck over not some fireman or law abiding gun collector.
This blog is getting to be a big waste of time. Whenever somebody has a different opinion the response goes something like this:
Blah Blah Blah asshole blah blah blah dickhead blah blah blah your not the real police blah blah blah pussy blah blah blah motherfucker blah blah blah cocksucker blah blah blah goof blah blah blah jagoff blah blah blah
Why cant anyone simply say , I disagree and here is why... without the juvenile insults. If you think you know something others dont share it. I will admit if I am wrong. If they are JUST targeting the expired registrations to pad their numbers then yea, that might be a problem. But it is the same problem I see with the tactical teams hauling in drinkers and tresspassers to pad their head count for the week. Having some sort of "quota" seens be a common theme for plain clothes units. Before the barrage of insults come again try growing up a little. For how old your post implys you are, you sound like your still in high school. If this is how you have a dialogue with your fellow P.O's I would hate to see how you talk to joe citizen....... but I am the reason people hate the police, sure, whatever you say.
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