What's Up With Harwood Heights?
Getting this story from two different people in recent days:
- Child of a copper (one person's son, one person's daughter) were driving through Harwood Heights. Both pulled over by a radar car. Both times, they are approached by the cop (both times allegedly a female cop) and told first thing, "I see the FOP stickers and I don't want to hear a word about them." The cop's kid is then given a ticket.
OK. First of all, if the kid was breaking the law, fine. Pull them over. If they're jagoffs, write them. Call dad and mom. But to go out of your way to even deny the kid a chance to explain or make an excuse or whatever courtesy you'd give any other citizen before seeing if they're legit is just wrong. And why is this happening in Harwood Heights? An interesting story has reached our ears.
Remember the bank robbery in Harwood Heights a month or so ago? And the off duty guy from 025 witnessed the robber run out of the bank at Harlem and Lawrence with a gun and exchanged gunfire with the offender before the dye pack exploded? The chase went from Harwood Heights into 016 where the offenders were apprehended. After 016 took them into custody, it is alleged that a female copper from the burbs went into a Chicago Police squad car, removed the prisoner from the car, took off the handcuffs and then put her own cuffs on an offender saying that as it happened in Harwood Heights, it was their arrest.
An argument ensued. In one version we heard, the Commander of 016 showed up and the Commander of Harwood Heights showed up and further arguing went on. The end result was that a blanket CR number was obtained on 016th District officers for being disrespectful toward the suburban cops, especially the female. In another version, it is alleged that the daughter of the Harwood Heights police commander was arrested later that week and long-formed by 016 shortly after this incident and had to spend time in one of our fine lockups.
Who's got the real scoop? If anything, this female from Harwood Heights needs to be straightened out in a big way. An arrest is not based on where the crime occurred but where the subject was apprehended and by whom. And isn't the FBI going to take this piece of garbage off our hands anyway for the bank robbery before we charge him with attempted murder? And if the 016 District Commander didn't back his guys on the scene, there ought to be repercussions. And finally, if Harwood Heights is playing games with our kids and not extending the courtesy they'd extend any other citizen, and are in fact TARGETING people with FOP stickers, it's time to crack down on them a little harder than is being done to us. We need info on this incident.
Remember the bank robbery in Harwood Heights a month or so ago? And the off duty guy from 025 witnessed the robber run out of the bank at Harlem and Lawrence with a gun and exchanged gunfire with the offender before the dye pack exploded? The chase went from Harwood Heights into 016 where the offenders were apprehended. After 016 took them into custody, it is alleged that a female copper from the burbs went into a Chicago Police squad car, removed the prisoner from the car, took off the handcuffs and then put her own cuffs on an offender saying that as it happened in Harwood Heights, it was their arrest.
An argument ensued. In one version we heard, the Commander of 016 showed up and the Commander of Harwood Heights showed up and further arguing went on. The end result was that a blanket CR number was obtained on 016th District officers for being disrespectful toward the suburban cops, especially the female. In another version, it is alleged that the daughter of the Harwood Heights police commander was arrested later that week and long-formed by 016 shortly after this incident and had to spend time in one of our fine lockups.
Who's got the real scoop? If anything, this female from Harwood Heights needs to be straightened out in a big way. An arrest is not based on where the crime occurred but where the subject was apprehended and by whom. And isn't the FBI going to take this piece of garbage off our hands anyway for the bank robbery before we charge him with attempted murder? And if the 016 District Commander didn't back his guys on the scene, there ought to be repercussions. And finally, if Harwood Heights is playing games with our kids and not extending the courtesy they'd extend any other citizen, and are in fact TARGETING people with FOP stickers, it's time to crack down on them a little harder than is being done to us. We need info on this incident.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
237 Comments:
It is true, some people in 016 say it is definitely on between 016 and them. Just don't drive through there if you can help it, its only a few blocks of a municipality anyway.
HH definitely has a short memory, they used to call 10-1's all the time when they had that bar on Lawrence east of Oak Park in the 90's, we always helped them out. we used to get along good with them. So much for coppers sticking together.....
Along with River Grove, Stone Park, and Niles, Harwood Heights is an Outfit town-you don't get a job there unless your sponsored by a outfit greaseball. I'm not sure who makes the calls to get hired there today but traditionally thats how it was. And who do you think our CPD bosses are going to defer to? Yep, thats right! The mudballs in Harwood Heights, not out blue shirts.
I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS FEMALE COPPER FROM SOME GUYS WHO LIVE IN 016. I WAS TOLD SHE ALWAYS IS SITTING ON AN INTERSECTION THAT IS CONTROLLED BY STOP SIGNS. SHE APPARENTLY ALWAYS READS THE RIOT ACT TO COPPERS SHE PULLS OVER. ALL POLICEMEN SHOULD GIVE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO EACHOTHER AND EXTEND IT TO FAMILY MEMBERS. WE ALL GOT ENOUGH CRAP TO DEAL WITH FROM THE PUBLIC, POLITICIANS, AND SH*THEADS. SOMEBODY SHOULD TALK TO THIS BROAD.
While the arrest may have occurred in Chicago, the prosecution will occur in Harwood Heights. Having worked in several border districts, it has always been common practice to transport the offender to the place of occurrence if the arrest occurs during hot pursuit. The suburbs will allow you to process them at their place, and will provide all the assistance you could possibly need. They also have ASAs which will approve just about any charge against anybody, unlike us. The suburbs routinely grab guys for us and turn them over without a problem as well. The only way I could see a guy having to go into a Chicago station for a crime committed in the suburbs is if they also committed a crime in the city. I can see several ways that could play out.
If Harwood Hgts is pulling this $hit they should beware. Look at a map. To leave Harwood Hgts you have to cross city lines. Many years ago a cop from 16 was written by a Harwood Hgts cop. The W/C in 16 sent the tact team to the harwood Hghts PD and had them write down all of the HH PO's lic Plates. When they left work they were all pulled over and given tickets by CPD. They were told why and who wrote the CPD copper. The hh Copper who wrote the CPD copper was put on mids, the ticket was dropped and peace was restored.
Traffic cars write Sgt's, why not suburban cops? Is there a JUICE baby out there that can call in a favor and teach these knuckle heads whats what? Put the traffic cars on the city limit and see what happens.
Wrong. The prosecution will happen either in Cook County Courts for the attempt murder of the officer or in the Federal system for the bank robbery. There is no "Branch Court of Harwood Heights."
I believe that Chicago has always kept the head and then done Supps to whatever report is generated by the suburbs. Unless the charge is local in nature, CPD doesn't transport to Central D for the suburbs to pick up.
This broad NEVER should have been allowed into a CPD squad car to remove a prisoner 016 caught. If Ralph Price is still the Commander of 016 and he let this happen, he's a bigger fucking moron than I remember.
How bout this, the bad guy got caught, and the Feds's are going to prosecute no matter who get's the CB number! Now can't we all get along and stop playing games! As for one asshole copper, not much we can do, Chicago has them too, we all know that. They will all get theirs someday, no matter who they work for.
Hey, youz guyz, leave Stone Park outta dis, Kapeesh!
Getting away from the subject....Who gives a fuck about who got the pinch. It's abpout some broad writing other coppers/coppers families and maybe even targeting them. It doesn't matter what the disagreement is (everyone has had pinches stolen (I've arrested bank robbers and never gone to federal court/there was always a plea.) Nne of that matters. The fact that she is allegedly stopping coppers/coppers families because she is mad about a fucking robbery pinch is what the problem is. I've met some Harwood heights coppers and they were good people. Hopefully they or the bosses with squach this and we will return to helping eachother out instead of hurting eachother. Trust me, Harlem is a MAJOR narcotics/gun through street and stopping some kid for a chicago stop at a a 4 way is no way to do policework. Everybody be safe...
HH is a hillbilly hic burb. period.
a guy from my graduating class got pulled over by a hh copper (not sure if the copper was a female or male) anyway he had a few days left on his probation and this jag had the balls enough to dui him and caused him to loose his job with only 3 or 4 days left on probation... the ppo didn't get into an accident or anything and the midnights cpd bosses tried calling hh to try and smooth things over and from what I was told they didn't even want to talk to this ppo's w/c. I know this much if a hh copper comes through my district im going to run out of ink in my pen writing him tickets, that's a fair warning you cock suckers!
... still missing you here TF!!
I dated a female officer from Harwood Height, not sure if it is the same one you are talking about. But she was a kinky girl, always wanted to be tied up, loved duct tape, handcuffs and blindfolds. Nothing worng with it except that wa the only way she would do it. Had to be all bondaged up and tossed around hard. When I finally got rid of her, she stalked me for weeks and was a true nut case!
Blanket CR#? What a load of crap. You wonder why POs no matter what side of the Harlem/Foster Mason Dixon line write each other.
The Bosses encourage it, they tell you they are getting a CR# to cover you. Baloney!
THIS JOB IS GOING TO HELL BECAUSE OF PC SPINELESS BOSSES OUT TO COVER THEIR ASSES ONLY!!
I for one would like to know her name. I have some people that I know who could "have a talk" with her boss. I GUARANTEE that she will stop that or else be looking for a new line of work.
first:
Harwood Heights is not a 'mobbed up' town run by "greaeballs"
second:
the female po from Harwood Heights motherfuck's any one she pulls over
but remember
she only pulls over FOP stickers and elderly citizens, she knows who she can motherfuck
MAYBE SHE CAN GET A LESSON ON HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE BY GOING ON A RIDE-A-LONG IN 011 or 015
unfortunatley, it will take her getting an ass kicking for her to realize how to be the police
The street deputy has to come out since it was one of our own who discharged their firearm. Other then that, it happened in HH it's their paper, their investigation. As for coming into our city, going into one of our cars (w/out given consent) and removing said offender, the be-atch should have been lumped.
Well, at roll call a couple of weeks ago. The D/C of 016 told us of a "minor" problem that had occured at the scene between an officer from 025, and the Cheif of HH.
The problem stemmed from a DUI that cost a PPO(from 025)his job with Chicago. Apparently from what we were told at roll call, This PO from 025 got into a verbal sparing match with the Cheif of HH.
Furthermore we were told that it was taken care of and to let the D/C of 016 know if there were any tensions, or working relationship problems with HH. If there were any he would address them immediately.
PS The feds screwed the pooch on that arrest. They had everyone looking for the gun for over three hours in the area of the chase. The gun was in the bad guys car the entire time but they wouldnt let anyone search the car!
First of all the DC is not driving around all the time, so let's keep it real. I have, as a supervisor, stopped and backed up Harwood Heights coppers on stops untill their own showed up. NO PROBLEM.
B U T if they want to fuck around I WILL PERSONALLY MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THEIR CARS THAT VENTURE INTO THE CITY GET FUCKING WRITTTEN AND IMPOUNDED. IF THEY WANT A WAR I WILL FIGHT IT. THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY THE CITY LIMITS. I REALLY DON'T THINK THEY WANT THIS BUT IF IT IS WHAT IT IS SO BE IT!!!!!!!!! THERE ARE MORE COPPERS IN THE 10 SECTOR IN 016 THAN WORKING ON THE DEPT IN HARWOOD HEIGHTS. WHEN I HAVE BEEN STOPPED THERE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TREATED LIKE A GENTLEMAN. I HOPE THIS IS JUST GOSSIP, BUT IF NOT LET THE GAMES BEGIN. ANY HARWOOD HEIGHT COPPERS READING PLEASE OPINE!! LETS GET A DAILOGE GOING BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. STAY SAFE.
Most of us have given breaks to dozens of people that many suburbs would consider the arrest of the week. When you work somewhere that's busy, and somewhere that there is a real chance you might find yourself calling a 10-1, comraderie (sp?) developes, and your view of what's important is formed. This woman needs to grow up. Does she think writing CPD family members will make her life better? As for the jurisdiction aspect-if the suburb touches the City we have police authority. Since the crime occurred in HH however, they will investigate and deal with the ASAs. Same County, different ASA's. And just if the bank was robbed in 016 and the guy was caught in H, Area 5 would have to handle it, so it would make sense to take him there. If anyone can document that she is the same cop and has a grudge-that is enough for the tickets to be thrown out. The drivers should look into it before pleading. If more than one walk into court with the same story and tell the prosecutor, that should be enough.
One thing I know for a fact about the bank robbery incident is that the police chief of Harwood Hts. complained to Cline that he thought it was reckless that the Chicago officer fired his gun.
An open letter to Richard Austin: Austin, Please bid to a district or leave the Department. Work the streets with real Chicago Police Officers. Get into a foot chase. Break up a domestic in the ghetto. Kick in a door. Fight with someone bigger than you. Go to a 10-1 to back up real Chicago Police Officers. Stop someone who looks dangerous. Work a district for awhile and you'll realize there are more important things than your fragile ego. There are real criminals that brave police officers catch in this city every day. While you see yourself as a crusader, the sad truth is you are a self righteous loathsome creature too lazy and afraid to do the things the rest of us do. Get into therapy for your inferiority issues, and please find a different job. You are taking up a paycheck of someone who might want to actually be a police officer.
Didn't HH also DUI a PPO and cause him to be fired. No accident, just fell asleep at a light. They are just a bunch of ball less pricks,who are afraid of their own shadows. To them the FOP stickers mean "This stop I wont get my ass kicked" Fuckin' little bitches.
Bought a new car from Gateway Chevrolet. The salesman screwed up the paper work on the license transfer, causing an expired sticker to be on the plates while the plates were renewed and still actually valid.
The wife stops at Mateos Mexican Restaurant on Montrose to pick up carry-out when Officer Miller of the Harwood Hts PD stops her. She calls me on her cell, in tears, to tell me what happened. I ask her to put him on the phone and he tells me there's nothing he can do because he already started wrting the ticket. The fact that she told him we were CPD and the fact that our FOP medallion was about 2 inches from the so-called expired plate sticker meant nothing to him. Went to court, and naturally it was dropped, however I wish to give a BIG SHOUT OUT to Officer Miller of the Harwood Hts PD for his fearless dedication to duty.
P.S. I'm retired CPD and my wife and I are both in our sixties. We are a real threat to the safety of the greater Harwood Heights community.
Here is an idea... QUIT DRIVING LIKE YOUR ABOVE THE LAW (and tell your kids as well). Coppers are some of the worst drivers and often disregard traffic laws on their way home that they nailed some citizen for earlier. There is a reason we are "held to a higher standard", because we are supposed to know better. If you guys up north want to brew up a conflict between CPD and HH because a HH PO did her job and gave moving violations to traffic violators who happened to be coppers kids thats up to you. I never drive throuth HH so.. whatever.
Hmmm. You mean someone walks up to the car that your attempted murder/bank robbery offender is seated in and STARTS to open the door and you are not all over that? No person will be messing with my prisoner. How did this officer get the offender out of the car? Would you let a citizen do that?
I've been telling everyone for years to stay away from driving in Harwood Heights. It's no secret that the whole town is a speed trap and that tickets account for the majority of the town's income. I've also heard numerous negative stories about them.
I was pulled over a couple months ago by HHPD. I knew I was in the wrong.... going about 10mph over the limit. I was polite and I apologized to the officer as I showed him my star when he stepped up to my window. He NEVER said a word to me. All I got was something like a gruff and a mean long look from mr. tough-guy... like he considered writing me a ticket anyways.
So screw him and screw HHPD, cuz it sounds like "its on"!
You all have ruined this job..aarrgghh
Harwood Heights, the basketball fights, Tank and the murder...
This world is going to hell...
Tank has a nice Gangster Disciple Pitchfork tattoo (look at his CPD mugshot) Basketball players acting like Ghetto Pigs even though they are paid millions, Miami College Football players fighting like thugs on the field......
Screw all these sports teams and players who are paying and catering to these black players!
Like I am going to pay a few hundred dollars to take my kids to a professional game to watch them act like asses!
This is what you get when the world becomes so politically correct that nothing is wrong any more!
The City of Chicago is dropping project residents in all parts of the city and suburbs and crime is spreading like mad and they are also influencing our children.
I am tired of this non-sense. Call a spade a spade and lets really tell it like it is... but be prepared to be called a racist for doing it.
I was stopped by H.W.P.D. with a cold six pack on my lap and a very pretty he-she as my passenger. And H.W.P.D. gave me a complete pass!
But I have to admit, my he-she date was dressed to the nines and looking good!
Lt. Richie Scotchbreath
B.T.W.: I recently joined the 12 step program. I keep all liquor at least 12 steps away from me so I can get a workout everytime I have another! I figure I am up to about 1200 steps a day now!
This is what I heard from the Harwood Heights cop I talked with. The little angel daughter, who was driving with a black young gang banger, was observed by the cop throwing gang signs, forks down to another car, then stopped by the cop. I don;t know why these coppers kids find it so sexy to date gangbanging pieces of shit. But the explaination does make sense on how the cop reacted.
The Chicago Bears just announced that Tank has resigned from the Bears and now will run against Daley in the Mayoral election! Tank for Mayor! Yes! Guns for everyone!
12:06 AM-- How could you forget to include Rosemont in the list? They didn't get a riverboat why? Just asking
Let me see if I understand the scenario that you describe with respect to the initial arrest: Robbery occurred in Harwood Heights, off-duty CPD copper in gunfight in Harwood Heights, Harwood police chase ensues which ends in Chicago when Chicago PD captures robbery offender/shooter for incident occurring in Harwood Heights. Presumably no additional charges in Chicago other than possibly traffic.
Based on that understanding of the original events, why wouldn't we simply turn this guy over to Harwood Heights. Granted the female officer (I'm assuming a P.O. and not a sgt. or above) should never have taken an arrestee out of a CPD squadcar (a serious breech of protocol) but I fail understand at what point this became a CPD arrest. Under the scenario given, there was no crime committed in Chicago and no basis therefore for an arrest in Chicago other than a response to a radio lookout message. Everything should have gone back to Harwood Heights, they had primary jurisdiction. CPD was merely assisting and had no basis for prosecution as all victims, including the off-duty CPD copper were located in Harwood Heights. I can't even surmise what kind of case report, other than in information report, would be prepared in this incident by Chicago. This wasn't a warrant arrest, this was hot pursuit by Harwood Heights. I suppose the guy could have been charged with traffic offenses, held by Chicago and processed here and then turned over to Harwood Heights for prosecution based upon a subsequently issued arrest warrant. That, in fact, is probably the correct way to do this, but ordinarily the practice is to turn the arrestee over to the initiating agency. Much neater and cleaner.
There are at least 5 legit reasons to criticize the HHPD and their Officer for what allegedly happened in these incidents. Misogynist ramblings aren't going to make it to publication.
I got pulled over by a river grove cop on the way home from work one night last week. as soon as he noticed my cpd turtle neck he wished me a safe night and walked away.
HEY: 12/17/2006 04:45:05 AM
MR. WHATEVER, YOU PEACE OF SHIT! LIKE YOU NEVER HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH A RED LIGHT OR NOT MAKE A COMPLETE STOP AT A STOP SIGN (ON OR OFF DUTY).
IF YOU HAVE NEVER DRIVEN THROUGH H.H. GREAT, DON'T ACT AS IF YOU HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING AGAINST THE G.O. AND THEN SAY "WHATEVER".
NOW GO GRAB YOUR FUCKING SHINE BOX, YOU DICK HEAD!
a guy from my graduating class got pulled over by a hh copper (not sure if the copper was a female or male) anyway he had a few days left on his probation and this jag had the balls enough to dui him and caused him to loose his job with only 3 or 4 days left on probation... the ppo didn't get into an accident or anything and the midnights cpd bosses tried calling hh to try and smooth things over and from what I was told they didn't even want to talk to this ppo's w/c. I know this much if a hh copper comes through my district im going to run out of ink in my pen writing him tickets, that's a fair warning you cock suckers!
... still missing you here TF!!
For your information, your buddy was passed out cold at a red light blocking traffic, and was called in by citizens who were on scene as well. It also was only a couple of hours before he was supposed to report for duty at his district. When the HH coppers tried to assist him, he became beligerent, and a complete a#$hole. There is nothing they could have done in this situation.
What are they going to do when CPD lifts the residency rule and we all move into HH????
I wasn't at the scene of the bank robbery, but I, like all of 16/17 heard the radio traffic. Following the robbery in HH, there was a pursuit and foot chase in 16. The 16 Sgt. was told by the o/s commander from HH that CPD's assistance was not needed or wanted for this incident. Sgt responded by telling dispatch that any requests for assistance regarding the offenders in custdy should be handled per GO through the Detective division.
My wife and I have always been treated right by HH and N P.O's. I understand that they pull over more police families than all of 16 combined. This is because traffic is where it's at for the suburbs. If things are tense with them, I would suggest obeying all traffic laws or avoiding HH altogether until this dies down. Tell your kids to do the same and by next year they will realize that we don't treat their town like everyone treats Chicago, as a traffic enforcement free zone. I still won't just drive by when one of theirs is on a stop because of this.
all i can say is this , I work in 016 and have never pulled over a harwood heights copper but have been pulled over by them several times in the past 15 years as well as my wife and never recieved a ticket, although a female on midnights did give me attitude once, but heres my point, im sure alot of cpd drive thru their town after having too many alot more often than u would think, start a war and see how many coppers end up getting dui'd , is it really worth it? Lets continue backin each other up and have someone talk to the copper and try and straightin this up
Let me say this. You guys would not know a mob guy if he was sitting next to you. HH is atight knit group of people. They keep it that way for several reasons. I know alot of the guys and girls that work there. There discipline is with a doubt the finest in the business. Capt Mario, Det John and so on. Now lets talk greaseball. We greaseballs are not all mob guys. You just think we are. So keep thinking what you want. Coppers are the worst. They think just because they are the police they should get a break on the purchase of a grill, or golf lessons, or food. What is that about. I own a buisness in a suburb. A chicago cop from 011 walks in and says " do you give the police a break on the purchase. I was shocked!!!! Why would I give a Chicago Cop a break if my shop is in Park Ridge. Coppers should just keep there mouth shut.
I am amazed that this CPD Officer LET this HH Officer take HIS/HER prisoner out of HIS/HER car and put her cuffs on and take him away.
If that was me, she's be physically restrained. No way some suburban puke is taking away my pinch!
And if they don't want to extend the courtesy, remember that when they are calling for CPD help.
Let them fight it out ALONE!!
leave hh alone. Leave the mob guys alone. CPD is full of mob guys.
As far as the PPO...joe citizen called the PD to complain about the passed out driver and remained on the scene while the PO-PO was there...I'm sure being typical police there was probably some sort of advertisement stuck somewhere on the car and you know the civilian was just itching to see what the police were going to do about it..sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
Have the CPD members and thier families write about this HHPD officer on www.copswritingcops.com. post her name there!!
Get the facts of the case or quit commenting on it. There WAS a crime committed in Chicago, the offenders fired shots/ pointed a gun at the police, which happened in 016. Once he was processed for that he WAS taken to HH for processing on the Bank Robbery. The feds took it over on that charge anyway. The offender was arrested by CPD not HH. If the off duty guy doesn't on-view this, he doesn't get arrested.
The female p.o. from HH was told not to touch the prisoner by CPD bosses.
I know a couple of HH Police and they are absolute gentlemen. The female officer thats been mentioned I do not know, but I can tell you one thing that's for sure the guys I know have saved a lot of our guys(CPD)rear ends, for reasons I will not post. One thing that's true is their Chief is a total jag who acts more like a lawyer/politician then the police. Their chief is the main reason why the kid from 025 was DUI'D.
Anyway stay safe and MERRY XMAS.
If HH is in fact stopping vehicles strictly on the basis of possessing an FOP medallion, then what they are doing is profiling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is a hot button these days. Lodge a complaint if you are stopped for this purpose, or request their immediate supervisor and request that this is rectified immediately.
There's wrong doing on both sides. I have a big mouth and have never had a problem when pulled over. If my daughter was driving around with some west side peice of shit, well lets just say there would be one less peice of shit here on earth.
The problem with this whole Chicagoland area is everybody's over grown ego. I pulled over a CPD copper from the mayors detail.
That copper acted like I was supposed to be scared. I told him point blank passing me in a 35 at 50 only tells me your a jaggoff. Take no shit from nobody when you pull them over. DISCRETION!
I have been pulled over once or twice there and those coppers act like they have something against CPD. God help if I pull any one of them over in 025 on midnights.....it would be a shame if one had to get 501ed.....and shit I don't do 501s.....
I know a CPD Sergeant who's wife was DUI'd by HH last year. It was the female cop who got her. She sits down the block from Mitty's and watches, then pulls over cars leaving there. The CPD Sergeant went to bond her out and HH Watch Commander told him it was their policy to hold all DUI's for a full 8 hours and no professional courtesey would be given.
Real nice. I wasn't there but I know this family and the sergeant's wife is not a loud mouth or billegerant at all. She was naive enough to believe that answering the HH female copper's questions was the right thing to do. Admitteed to having three glasses of wine over the night, and ended up being cuffed and treated like a shithead.
If in fact we, CPD, longformed the chief's daughter, why wouldn't they have it out for us? All that other "Who handcuffed who?" shit aside, you don't settle it like that.
Let's be honest...this in not much different than a lot of the Chicago Cops today.
RE: to what 12/17/2006 05:54:20 AM
posted- little angel daughter with black young gangbanger throwing gang signs-
IF that is true, that is f*cked up and she should have been written up. You KNOW that anyone of us would (and should) have done it.
Check this out.
Go to crimefile's website and check out the video montage of Chicago Police at work. It's cool.
Stay safe.
I agree with you scc. when are we as police going to learn that we are not above the law. this is no longer our father's department, and with every new class of new po's from other suburbs and other states there is likely to less and less po's willing to stick their necks out for each other.
I got pulled over by HH few months ago, young copper asked if i was police, smiled and walked away? If that daughter was with black gangerbanger she should have slammed her then called in parents and tell them they are shitty parents. Dont look for that spineless commander of 016 to help anyone out (price). Im suprised commander of HH didnt just blow on price and make him blow away the guy looks like a skeleton! Just remember last new years on harlem, that shows the noballs commander and lackeys have in 016.....I heqard from a friend who is HH copper that ppo dui acted like a complete jagoff but he was going to be let go, some broad copper came over and put cuffs on him and demanded he be arrested. Who the hell is this broad?
Anonymous said...
a guy from my graduating class got pulled over by a hh copper (not sure if the copper was a female or male) anyway he had a few days left on his probation and this jag had the balls enough to dui him and caused him to loose his job with only 3 or 4 days left on probation... the ppo didn't get into an accident or anything and the midnights cpd bosses tried calling hh to try and smooth things over and from what I was told they didn't even want to talk to this ppo's w/c. I know this much if a hh copper comes through my district im going to run out of ink in my pen writing him tickets, that's a fair warning you cock suckers!
... still missing you here TF!!
12/17/2006 12:45:12 AM
Anonymous said...
Well, at roll call a couple of weeks ago. The D/C of 016 told us of a "minor" problem that had occured at the scene between an officer from 025, and the Cheif of HH.
The problem stemmed from a DUI that cost a PPO(from 025)his job with Chicago. Apparently from what we were told at roll call, This PO from 025 got into a verbal sparing match with the Cheif of HH.
Furthermore we were told that it was taken care of and to let the D/C of 016 know if there were any tensions, or working relationship problems with HH. If there were any he would address them immediately.
PS The feds screwed the pooch on that arrest. They had everyone looking for the gun for over three hours in the area of the chase. The gun was in the bad guys car the entire time but they wouldnt let anyone search the car!
12/17/2006 01:39:25 AM
I REST MY CASE...why did you get into a shouting match with the Cheif of HH???? As wrong as they were to do that what did you solve by shouting with him at a crime scene??????
MORON!!!!!!!!
Being a H.H. cop with more than 4 years on the job, I can tell you without a doubt, it takes more skill to deal with you guys than you can imagine. No, I don't know what "the job" was like 20 years ago. I Don't really care either. We got watch commanders that expect us to produce, too. I'm into my career for advancement. I know you would do the same. Disgusted in H.H.
Rich Austin Traffic Cop = your still an ass.
To the Harwood Heights PD. chill out. be the police, act like the police and extend that professional curtosy as much as humanly possible. there are tons and tons of assholes, repeat offenders, career criminals, gang bangers etc etc that you can write. You shouldn't be targeting the police and police officers family. there doesn't have to be any "war" or "revenge" between depts. We're all on the same side. If its just a couple of your police that are doing wrong towards other police that turn the heat up on them or make their lives miserable from inhouse. we (cpd) have are fair share of idiot jagoff coppers. don't judge all of us for a few dummies and we won't do the same.
be safe - continue to back each other up...
Many years ago, Oak Lawn used to write Chicago coppers and family tickets all the time. Finally the coppers in 008 said, enough is enough, ANY car that had that queer looking oakleaf shaped city sticker was getting a ticket, mothers, wives, grand parents, didn't matter who or why you were in 008. The mayor of Oak Lawn got so many complaints from his citizens that he had a meet with WC of 008 and a truce was called. (you will also notice Oak Lawn quit using that oakleaf shaped city sticker)
I would like to say thank you to the female Oak Park P.O. on 3rd watch last friday about 1700 hrs. I was off duty and was stopped for going a little too fast and rolling a few stop signs trying to avoid the southbound Austin ave traffic. I identified myself, she asked for my C.P.D. Id and was very polite. I said I'm sorry and she said have a good day. This is how it should be. Thank you Oak Park.
REGARDING HH.
AS I P.O. I AM REAL MISSED OFF AT. HH. YEARS AGO HH HAD A BAD HIT N RUN ACCIDENT , 025 UNIT LOCATED THE OFFENDER IN THE 025 UNIT AND PLACED INTO CUSTODY. CONTACTED HH UNTILL AND OFFENDER WAS TURNED OVER TO HH. HH COMMANDER WAS VERY THANKFUL AND SAID TO ME IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN EVER DO FOR YOU". WELL THERE IS , STOPPING BOTHERING OUR CPD POLICE OFFICERS. ANOTHER NOTE : MELROSE PARK PD AND STONE PD ARE GOOD GUYS WILL NEVER WRITE A CPD OR FAMILY. EVEN IF THE COP SHOULD NOT BE DRIVING. RUMOR HAS IT THE MELROSE PD ANDF STONE PARK PD ARE MOBBED UP. REMEMBER BOYS AND GIRLS WERE IS NOT SUCH THING AS THE MOB.
As I see it... Its a citizens arrest by way of Chicago Police. But greed always gets in the way in this city. Its a Harwood Hieghts case. To many I's in team for CPD!
To:12/17/2006 06:31:23 AM
You sir must be from HHPD. As I know the facts to be. The exchange of gunfire between the CPD officer and badguy occurred on Chicago streets. As I know the facts to be HHPD had no clue what to look for until the Off duty CPD Officer became involved, and as I know it HHPD never initiated any chase but responded to a location in chicago near Menard and Irving to assist in the apprehension of a Felon who yes committed a bank robbery in HH, and several other issues including shooting at a CPD officer in Chicago.The bad guy was caught by CPD. If you ask me should HHPD be involved? absolutely. Haven't you ever made an arrest for a crime which was committed in another district but then had to process the prisoner in the district he was arrested in!! We all need to know where to draw the line. Sure everyone likes to look like the hero! We are all on the same team. Fucking over each other is not the answer. HHPD is pissing in the wind and shouldn't fuck with a brother Dept which surrounds thier town. For pete sake I had a paper route bigger than thier town!! Wise up HHPD, and get rid of your people who likes to fuck with other coppers, as it reflects poorly on what we call a brotherhood.
I was stopped by HH and given the hardest time ever. The guy pulled out a note book and wrote down my name. a couple days later a friend called me also a copper and asked me if I had been stopped recently. I asked why? He said that his name was right below mine. What kind of bullshit is that. To me if you are an officer I will extend courtesy as far as I can with no (lecture or writing your name down) or b.s.. Treat others as you would like to be treated.
It's about time these smaller towns cracked-down on police officers. You are NOT above the law ! Most of you drive like your maniacs ! If I could I'd "citizens arrest, citizens arrest"
So far every HHPD I have come in contact with have been great. When I have a stop on the border, they have, many times, covered my back. We mustn't throw stones when all the facts aren't known.
Harwood Heights "police" are parasites. they prey upon innocent mistakes in traffic and see no reason to go with the Spirit of the law. I say, to hell with them, and furthermore, the chase with the bank robber was initiated by a Chicago Copper who themn becomes a complaining witness, victim, and arresting Officer.
Harwood heights is a joke, and just add insult to injury, the typical arrogant broad is the one starting the shit.
Hey honey, like it or not you work in a mans world. The Police World is a man's world.
SCC, I must retort. (Hope u post it)
I am a cop, but not with CPD. Location will remain out of it for the moment. But a few things.
In almost every posting its written that the only police department in the world is the CPD. That has been rammed down our throats since the dawn of man. (slight overstaement) There are many good cops in suburban areas. Many left the city to avoid residency. I left for that reason. Why are we made to feel inferior when we are not?
Im all of my 15 years, where the crime happened is where the arrestee goes, not to the arresting agency. Next time, lock the squad up. I do. But yes, she shouldnt have taken him out.
People have posted that they will seek out anyone who stops and cites a CPD cop or family. That is headhunting! And that is wrong! Prof curt is expected, but shouldnt be demanded. So, pay the fine, get the sticker, just move on!
CPD has a ton of good people but I would respectfully ask that you remember that we all do the same job and one department is no better than another.
Is ANYONE from Harwood Heights copying this blog? Please say it ain't true.
I used to know the mayor of HH (Mayor Ray)...... He was a good guy. This all can't be true.
Is this bitch from HH that powerful that she was allowed to go in the CPD squad, take out the prisoner, and exchange cuffs? That should have not got that far in the first place. Fuck her. Someone should have said something like, "you could talk to him but right now he's in my car and don't take him out. if he needs to go to your station, i'll transport" or something to that nature. Cpd was more involved with that guy if he exchanged fire..it ended in chicago..what the fuck. Fuck them. Just show them no more courtesy and look the other way if they need your help..they sure as hell don't appreciate CPD anyway.
Hey SCC:
this is b -s that it takes over 5 hours for you to post a comment. Either you guys get on the ball or fuck this blog.
The reason we respond is to see our comment and to hear other responde in a timely fashion!
Hey SCC:
this is b -s that it takes over 5 hours for you to post a comment. Either you guys get on the ball or fuck this blog.
The reason we respond is to see our comment and to hear other responde in a timely fashion!
And a merry Christmas to you too asshat. If you'd like to come over and do some of the housework, visit our sick grandmother in the hospital, handle our shift for a day or two, shop for groceries and Christmas gifts, wrap up the presents, deliver them, attend church, volunteer at our kids schools, do homework with them, work a side job.... you get the picture yet moron? You do all that for us and we'll monitor the site every hour just for you.
This is a hobby for us. Always has been, always will be. We get to it twice a day - AM and PM. Specific times depneds on what our other obligations are. You don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. Why don't you go start a better blog? They're free you know.
What graduating class was the fired PPO from?
Was this a very recent incident?
TO: 12:45 12/17/06 PAY ATTENTION TO THIS;
This whole rift between H.H. and 016 and/or 025 started when the ppo fell asleep behind the wheel at Harlem and Gunnison Ave. H.H. gets called. A male officer arrives and attempted to wake up the driver. Keep in mind the auto had dark tinted windows and HH officer unsure what was taking place in the auto. Next thing..the driver awakes from his stooper, hits the gas as HH officer now calls for help as the driver manuvered around a few cars to flee.
As luck would have it, the HH Chief was s/b on Harlem at Foster. The suspect car is curbed and the Chief now ORDERS his officers to arrest and process this PPO.
HH notifies cpd 016 watch commander and area 5 deputy chief. These officers from HH tried to reason with their chief but again were ordered to complete the arrest. The male and a female officer were backed into a corner now.
It's common knowledge that Cline fired the ppo from 025.
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Now comes the bank robbery. After the great police work performed by the officer who was off duty and took police action to catch the robber, things went into the shitter when an officer from 025 arrived at the robbery scene in HH and comfronted the cheif and basically M/F the guy and told him our guys are gonna get your guys over the firing incident. (Keep this in mind, EVERYONE who knows the chief in HH thinks this guy is a hugh jagoff. His people hate him)
So now a CPD copper lit the fuse to start two agencies into a pissing contest.
A meeting was held the following day with all the bosses from both sides and it was beleived that this incident would have been put away.
This is a short run down of what truely happened.
The channel 5 piece was better than 7's. Here is the quote from Posey's sister "he was not a bad person. for everything he did that was not good, he had a double-good to make up for it."
F these savages.
I am in my 2nd decade on-the-job and can say that I haven't really been messed with by on-duty officers when I was off-duty. The bottom line is you defer to the workin cop..keep your mouth shut..and eat a big slice of humble pie, while apologizing for the mistake!
I have been given courtesy by I.S.P., CPD, and many suburbs over the years AND have always done the same in return! It's a two way street.
The problem is not knowing when to shut up and to much pride, followed by a bruised ego.
The bruised ego is what probably got the drunken PPO fired. He f'd up and after being chastized couldn't zip his lip and be humble..he instead had to get in a pissing contest with the HHPD Chief and then wonders why he was DUI'd.
Could it be because maybe..he WAS!(drunk)
Lots of P.O.s talk shit on here, but would you honestly risk your career or future to help out another cop, who refuses to help himself?
I've seen it alot as I'm sure many others have in their careers!
Enough said..stay safe and happy holidays!
Two-year wonders verses aged dinosaurs, Blacks against Whites, sergeants suck, detectives are lazy, Cline is fat, Dean is gay….blah, blah, blah
Who really cares? If the mindless complainers have nothing else to do with their time go to: http://www.odmp.org/agency.php?agencyid=657. Check out how many of our own are on this sight. I’m sure all of them would rather wear the uniform proudly instead of complaining like little bitches.
I work in 016, 2nd watch, I have never had any problem working with the HH police, or any adjoining suburban PO's. In fact, they're usually great back-up. Our commander in 016 addressed us at check off the other day and asked about tensions, none of the day crew knew what it was about, then our commander said the HH chief felt he was belittled by "some" cpd guys at that robbery scene. It was theorized that the cpd in question were from 025, as they had the ppo dui-ed by HH recently. AGAIN, I have never had any problem with our suburban po neighbors. They provide assistance ALL the time, they're good guys. I don't believe they are any more prone to screw a po than some of our fellow cpd officers.
>>There's wrong doing on both sides. I have a big mouth and have never had a problem when pulled over. If my daughter was driving around with some west side peice of shit, well lets just say there would be one less peice of shit here on earth.<<
Who, your daughter?
what is with all these coppers who are confused as to who had the rights to arrest the bad guy just because it occured in HH? If asshole shoots and kills guy in Palos Heights and flees to Chicago after a flash on his car let's say, and I'm following the car do I just let it go by because I'm not Palos Heights PD? No I take action and arrest the asshole because I am the police and it is what I swore an oath to do.
Remember first rule of thumb, my cuffs, my head.
Signed, an old timer
Just a Question from the general orders of the CPD. If a CPD member places an individual in custody (defined as denying the freedom of movement) isn't it rue that the only person who can release the in custody person is the watch commander? If the only person who can release someone in custody is the WC then it reasons that there would be a CB(central booking number). No person in custody can be released to the suburbs. I'm not advocating a CR# but standing -up for yourselves in the face of inter-jurisdictional pressures. 016 hold your head high for catching the scumbag, thumbs down for letting an in custody person to be released to a what all previous posts surmise as a jackass.
I've been with CPD for five years now and have had my chance to pull over probably near a hundred fellow officers from CPD and other deptartments abroad. I never wrote a ticket, never gave a lecture, just verified that they were who they said and let them on their way. On the flip side I've been pulled over 15 or 20 times in and out of the city. A State Trooper once told me that I was the 5th PO he had pulled over that night, groaned and bid me fare well and walked away. It probably took 10 or 15 min of his tour to deal with me, so it would be safe to say that he wasted a hour pulling over PO's that he didn't write (unexplained lost revenue). Point being, in Chicago, we really don't care about the traffic stop in itself, were usually looking for something more (a gun, drugs, a warrant) and if we don't find it who cares, that 15 minutes closer to checkoff. EVERYWHERE else PO's do care, they do have a quota. I've never been pulled over for something I didn't do. I'm polite because I'm in the wrong and I hope I don't get one of the bad apple PO's like the "ONE" in HH. Her own reputation will lead someone to follow her from work to write her. But at the end of the day were ALL in it together and we only have ourselves.
I heard the Harwood Heights PD planted the guns on Tank Johnson!
I can remember coming home one night N/B on Harlem. It was right after work, not stiff, just tired.
Was cruising 10 -15 over on the Chicago side. I saw thw HH copper siiting in he Mobil on Foster.. Sure enough, I saw the lights in the mirror. Could have sped up and been home, before he caught up. Not having broken any laws in HH, I stopped at Higgins. The copper gave me the riot act, cause I asked him why he was playing our side of Harlem. Sidenote.. When going S/B on Nagle, between Gunnison and Montrose, Chicago is the whole street just South of the curve.
CPD should have been thankful it was the HHPD officer opening the door to his squad and not some regular Joe. The CPD guy would have been looking at catching time for an escape. Next time lock you door to your squad when you have a prisoner in the back and this would have not happened. From a CPD officer.
Holy Sh*t, why don't we bash the broad not the whole HH department. I know a few coppers from HH and they're decent guys who don't lecture us if we get stopped. We could be starting a sh*tstorm between the departments for nothing. And another thing why the hell do coppers mention other towns for no reason. Melrose, Stone Park etc.. If there are any suburban coppers reading this blog just remember the suburban police department bashers are only a few guys, probably under 5 or so. And yes I know some two or three year wonder is going to bash me for something I wrote. Oh and by the way I have double digit time on the job workingin the likes of the west side 015 in case you would like to respond with some non sense.
Let's make it fair to Sgt F.L. Send Richard "Dick" Austin to 009, so he can get his ass kicked by the 009 boys. yeah, that's only fair...
He wouldn't stand a chance against the likes of the Sgt's "boys in 009"...We got your back F.L
And a merry Christmas to you too asshat. If you'd like to come over and do some of the housework, visit our sick grandmother in the hospital, handle our shift for a day or two, shop for groceries and Christmas gifts, wrap up the presents, deliver them, attend church, volunteer at our kids schools, do homework with them, work a side job.... you get the picture yet moron? You do all that for us and we'll monitor the site every hour just for you.
This is a hobby for us. Always has been, always will be. We get to it twice a day - AM and PM. Specific times depneds on what our other obligations are. You don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. Why don't you go start a better blog? They're free you know.
12/17/2006 05:09:39 PM
Glad you said it SCC!!! Keep up the great work...this blog, if nothing else, is a great outlet, but not a 24 hours a day news service.
well if this is about a stupid PPO who was DUI then so be it and a lesson to the rest of PPO out there. Imagine if he is done with his PPO status what next? It's a good thing to get rid of him now than be sorry later and here comes another sad story of drunk CPD killing somebody. What a dumb ass PPO you get what you deserve! Good luck to your next job and Merry X'mas to you and all the readers!!
Anonymous said...
MELROSE PARK PD AND STONE PD ARE GOOD GUYS WILL NEVER WRITE A CPD OR FAMILY. EVEN IF THE COP SHOULD NOT BE DRIVING. RUMOR"
12/17/2006 02:13:46 PM
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There were 2 Coppers, yes two, from 019 who I personally know of that were written by Stone Park!
Melrose Park PD gave me a parker, placed it right next to my FOP sticker. The best is they are FOP too. Nice, huh?
The PPO who got DUI'ed in HH was a useless,drunken oaf.Nice kid but constantly showed up hungover and queasy while he trained in 012.Spent most of the tour on cell phone or PDT trying to find PPO buddys to go drinking with everyday.NO ONE was surprised.
The problem is this: even though no one will admit it as such, we all like to feel important. A bump to our self esteem if you will. I've been guilty of it. You have to step back and think for a moment what is best for the present situation. Two guys on view a man with a pistol, guy pitches the pistol they recover it and two others grab the guy. Who really makes the pinch? I'll always say the guys that on viewed it and give the guys who took him into custody credit on the arrest and the case. Looks a hell lot better in court. We have too much petty bickering amongst ourselves. Lighten up, back each other up, and for god's sake remember, we are on the same team. A Merry Christmas to all.
Pulling over coppers and thier families are SAFE stops.
Odds are in your favor that the driver or passengers are not going to just open fire at you.
Now pull over those 4 shaved heads
in the 97 caddie and you have just increased your odds of getting shot.
Spineless tactic to make it look like you're doing your job. Be more creative. Go write parkers somewhere for revenue if you must.
...responded to a location in chicago near Menard and Irving to assist in the apprehension of a Felon who yes committed a bank robbery in HH, and several other issues including shooting at a CPD officer in Chicago...
In that case, the attempt murder of the off-duty police officer trumps the bank robbery in Harwood Heights. We process him on our crime then Harwood Heights gets their bit of the apple.
Holy Sh*t, why don't we bash the broad not the whole HH department. I know a few coppers from HH and they're decent guys who don't lecture us if we get stopped. We could be starting a sh*tstorm between the departments for nothing. And another thing why the hell do coppers mention other towns for no reason. Melrose, Stone Park etc.. If there are any suburban coppers reading this blog just remember the suburban police department bashers are only a few guys, probably under 5 or so. And yes I know some two or three year wonder is going to bash me for something I wrote. Oh and by the way I have double digit time on the job workingin the likes of the west side 015 in case you would like to respond with some non sense.
12/17/2006 08:34:29 PM
2 year wonder your a 15 year wonder....dork
Two offenders caught by 016 tac. placed in seperate cage cars. Lots of confusion at the scene. Was that a HH helocopter overhead?? A uniform opening a squad door is alot different then joe. Still shouldn't have been allowed to happen. No evidence of any shooting taking place in Chicago.
the O/D exchanged shots in HH
OVER 15YRS ON THE JOB AND HAVE BEEN PULLED OVER 2-3 TIMES TOTAL. MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY DRIVING A LITTLE BETTER AND NOT GETTING PULLED OVER SO MUCH.
cant we all get along
to: Anonymous said...
I can remember coming home one night N/B on Harlem. It was right after work, not stiff, just tired.
Was cruising 10 -15 over on the Chicago side. I saw thw HH copper siiting in he Mobil on Foster.. Sure enough, I saw the lights in the mirror. Could have sped up and been home, before he caught up. Not having broken any laws in HH, I stopped at Higgins. The copper gave me the riot act, cause I asked him why he was playing our side of Harlem. Sidenote.. When going S/B on Nagle, between Gunnison and Montrose, Chicago is the whole street just South of the curve.
12/17/2006 08:16:46 PM
I could be wrong, but I believe that the courts have ruled that streets between municipalities are neutral with regards to traffic law enforcement...The City side vs HH side(and all the other suburbs) is strictly for case reporting...
I was on scene where the bank robber was caught. I believe the Chief of HH ordered a male Sgt, and a female P.O. to retrive the prisoners. We didn't think anything about it when HH showed up. Then we noticed HH had the prisoners out and asked who's cuffs are on the prisoners because they were going to switch cuffs. Our Sgt. put an end to that real quick and HH drove off empty handed.
Moments later we went to the bank and the stupid Chief of HH was standing at the bank entrance door eye fucking all the CPD there and was just being a real prick, refusing any help from CPD and stating "Cline is going to hear about this". We just left thinking what a jagball this guy is.
off duty 025 caught bank robber
off duty 0?? was dui'd
Dont give 025 another black eye, the ppo wasn't from there
Who, your daughter?
No one of your break dancin baggy pants pieces of shit. My daughter could kick your ass you beeeyotch.
She wouldnt even look at you or one of yours. You and yours make her sick thank God. But I guess you cant blame them. Our wimminz look mo betta fo sho.
Maybe everyone should start driving like they DONT expect to get a pass if they get stopped. I am tired of seeing some asshole driving without regard to traffic laws or public safety and when I go after him and curb him he sticks his badge out the window like its some damned mentos commercial. I cant believe people are actually complaining on here about getting stopped and getting a lecture instead of a ticket. You are not entitled to a break. If another copper gives you one great, if he doesnt, oh well. And no, I havent written any coppers but some have pushed it. And quit saying the poor PPO fell asleep at the wheel, its called being passed out. The HH copper is not the bad guy. The PPO is a jaggoff for driving drunk as are all the rest of the drunk drivers on the road (PO's and citizens alike). Lets get that straight, the ones driving drunk are the assholes. They are placing my family and yours at risk by driving.
For all those who are saying they wouldnt come to the aide of a HH PO in a 10-1 situation because of some traffic citations you can go fuck yourselves. Do us all a favor and just turn in your star because there is no reason you can come up with to justify not going to another officers aid.
AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR 15 + YRS I LET EVERY OFFICER GO FROM TIM BUCK TOO, TO MAYBERRY. IT COSTS YOU NOTHING TO BE COURTEOUS, BUT EVERYTHING TO BE A JAGFOFF. I HAVE BEEN STOPPED BY HH SOME YRS BACK AND THEY WERE GENTLEMEN. BUT I ALSO KNOW TIMES CHANGE. I HOPE THIS IS NOT A WAR BECAUSE AS POLICE OFFICERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AT IT IS A TOUGH JOB ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC AND THEIR PERCEPTION OF US. I CAN ONLY HOPE AND SUGEST TO ANY HH COPPERS READING THIS BLOG TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN AND SET HIM/HER STRAIGHT. WHEN WE GET SOME OVER ZEALOUS COPPERS ON CPD, WE LET THEM KNOW THE WAY THINGS ARE AND HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEY CURB THEIR WAYS. IF NOT THEY FIND DRIVING TO WORK CAN BE VERY COSTLY WHEN YOUR TIRES GET SLASHED OR YOUR CAR GETS KEYED, OR SOMEONE TOSSES A FLARE INSIDE YOUR VEHICLE. WE DO HAVE A WAY OF DRIVING HOME A POINT. I HOPE HH COPPERS TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS W/ THEIR OWN AND RECTIFY THINGS OR WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DO IT OURSELVES. REMEMBER, COPPERS ALWAYS RUIN IT FOR EACH OTHER SO LETS GET ON THE SAME PAGE HH, WHAT DO YOU SAY? WE HAVE ENOUGH ASSHOLES TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST. I DO WORK IN 016 AND WILL BE MONITORING CONDITIONS AS RELATED TO THIS HH SITUATION. REMEMBER WE ALL WEAR A STAR AT WORK AND WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, SO LETS WORK WITH EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF AGAINST EACHOTHER. LIFE IS TOO FUCKING SHORT, IN 50 YRS THIS MEANS NOTHING. STAY SAFE.
If HH is in fact stopping vehicles strictly on the basis of possessing an FOP medallion, then what they are doing is profiling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is a hot button these days. Lodge a complaint if you are stopped for this purpose, or request their immediate supervisor and request that this is rectified immediately.
12/17/2006 11:23:00 AM
Hey, douche bag, here's a tip for you: contrary to what your left-leaning friends tell you, "profiling" is not illegal. It is a valid police tool that the libs have convinced the CPD superintendent (among others)is "morally wrong". Obviously, you have no idea how to be the real police. Get a life and go f*&k yourself with your "lodge a complaint" shit.
As a 2 year wonder, having grown up in a suburb, currently working nowhere in this city near a suburb (I do have a nice view of the lake from the ghetto though), I have yet to jam one copper up, CPD or anyone else, if anything I've gone out of my way at times to avoid it, but that's not a point I want to dwell on.......We recently had a copper in our district die, his family lives in the burbs, his friends lived in the burbs, some of them anyway, and when we went to bury him in the burbs, every far south suburb (Univ Park, Monee, Robbins, S Heights, etc.) sent cars, blocked traffic had not only convoy escort cars front and back, but chasing people off from both sides as well (clearing the ENTIRE road both on coming and same direction traffic), all for a CPD Copper. The fire departments each sent some type of vehicle. We of course sent out cars too. The Copper's Family was amazed that all of these people came out and did this for their son, not just us, but the entire local police community. Stop, look, see who you're mother fucking before you mother fuck them. I have a number of friends who police the suburbs, some on CPD now and some who left CPD for the burbs. You never know who you'll need to work with later, in this department or outside agencies. I've dealt with a large number of outside agencies for warrants, foreign steals, etc. I've always been polite and been treated very well. Every group has its STROKES, unfortunately we do too. Unfortunately, the strokes are usually remembered first......should just stick them all in one district so everyone knows where they are, but since it makes sense, I'll just put more gel in my hair, don my black leather gloves and drive my gps mounted car to my next heffer fight/baby momma domestic and continue to treat ALL of my fellow Coppers, like Coppers......hopefully that'll cover it. Sorry I took so much room SCC, but it seems to me that if we're gonna have a brotherhood of police, we should police ourselves first.
003rd District Copper
Your cuffs don't automatically make it your arrest. You're confusing department credit with legal court documents recording an incident (crime & arrest). CPD shouldn't have left their vehicle unattended with an offender inside, HH shouldn't have endangered the lives of the general public & on scene officers by removing handcuffs in an unsecure venue...I would be troubled by the lack of safe practices if my guys & galls were in the habit of switching cuffs on the street...spend ten minutes, drive to the station & get your cuffs there...
Anyone work in 025 with Sgt. Don Jerome ? What's his story, is he a boss or a supervisor ?
12/17/2006 07:03:15 PM
You have been stopped 15 times in 5 years ? That is calling attention to yourself Officer.
I have been an Officer for 18 yrs. and been stopped only 1 time.
You must be a complete Dick Head Driver !
The proper procedure is to bring the arrestee to the 16th District, complete an arrest report, release without charging and turn the offender over to the harwood Heights P.D., who ultimately will turn this shitbird over to the FBI.
The G.O. is explicit in that the arrestee will be transported into the District of arrest to be processed.
I could be wrong, but I believe that the courts have ruled that streets between municipalities are neutral with regards to traffic law enforcement...The City side vs HH side(and all the other suburbs) is strictly for case reporting...
12/18/2006 12:54:50 AM
I have'nt wrote a ticket in over 15 years, but I do believe when you write, it will say Chicago, Cook County, IL.
I'm sure if 16 would start writing speeders on S/B Harlem, HH would have a shit fit.
LMAO--Sounds like something from the Little Rascals or better yet...Brokeback Mountain...009 boys....Austin would kill each and every one of those gel sportin' pussies.
Man, you don't have any idea of Austin's toughness. 009 boys don't scare nobody. haha...Burning him in effigy? He won't back down from none of them punk asses and he is one bad mutha.
009 boys ain't got shit on Rick and we ALL know it. Quit playin'.
Traffic Guy keepin' it real
SCC:
The individual who posted a message at 9:00 on 17 Dec 06 is in need of anger management counselling. He also should be in the behavior alert program, if he is not already in same, as his comments are out-of-line and have been for some time.
First rule of policing:
MY CUFFS, MY HEAD
Second Rule of Policing:
MY CUFFS, MY ASS
Interpretation: You want to be a hero fine but remember when the shit hits the fan, you're first in line. . .
Below is actually what we are talking about here. What the fuck are you thinking. I respond to calls while working, I go thru red lights, go over the speed limit, roll thru stop signs and pass traffic and drive like an asshole to get to your 10-1 and hot jobs, why because you are my brothers and sisters in blue and I alike other officers will do my best to be there when you need help. sometimes we don't realize how we drive because we constantly drive like assholes while at work trying to get to jobs, 10-1s etc. I have caught myself after just getting off pulling up to a red light stopping to check traffic and then going thru a red light, not because I wanted to drive like a jag but because thats what it took to respond to hot jobs and calls for assistance during that day. We need to extend courtesy for ourselves and out to our families. It is ruff enough having to deal with crap being thrown at us from the street but when you also have to deal with crap from our own, C-mon. I give courtesy and expect it. Im not saying allow your fellow officers to run crazy. My rule if it is not hurting anyone and I can explain it for example(dui = diabetic low blood sugar)(fail to stop at stop sign, red light= on duty undercover officer following badguy) c-mon use your head. we are all police officers I know I don't need a lecture. Save it for joe citizen. We are all cocks in the hen house not the best, biggest. It's when you act like a dick that pisses everybody off. Stay safe and use common sense. Try to give courtesy and don't be a dick.
To 12/18/2006 01:34:58 AM
DONT expect to get a pass if they get stopped. I am tired of seeing some asshole driving without regard to traffic laws or public safety and when I go after him and curb him he sticks his badge out the window like its some damned mentos commercial. I cant believe people are actually complaining on here about getting stopped and getting a lecture instead of a ticket. You are not entitled to a break. If another copper gives you one great, if he doesnt, oh well.
Stop whinning like a kid or worse a baby!!!!! I've been stop in the burbs and never had any problem with any of them and been stop in Chicago especially the traffic that works in Lake Shore drive and they give you the lecture but give you a break but the best of all are the Troopers!!! They are the best, good appearance, dress tight, very respectful and courteous God bless them! To sum it up I was never targeted it's just me speeding like a nut head but stopped by a fellow Police Officer I make sure that I am courteous and give them the respect they deserved and never had a problem. I never put my badge on the window, I show them my drivers license and insurance first then I ask them if they give professional courtesy, I show them my credentials when asked and never had a problem. If you act professional then they will treat you the same if you act like a moron then you will be treated like one.
SOUNDS LIKE THE FEMALE COPPER FROM HH AND THAT DICKHEAD RICHARD AUSTIN DUI'ING COPPERS ARE OF THE SAME CLOTH. SOMEBODY SHOULD TEACH THEM TWO A LESSON...I'M SERIOUS.
At least you don't live in Farmington Hills, Michigan. See how they treat fellow P.O.s on traffic stops..oh wait, disregard it's okay it was a sergeant..nevermind!http://officer.com/article/article.jsp?id=34043&siteSection=1
Forget about Harwood Heights. What they are alleged to have done is petty. Lert's get to the big stuff.
Why was a bank robber, who tried to murder a CPD P.O., sitting unattended in a CPD squad and not on his way to either the Morgue, Ressurrection Hospital, or the 16th District?
Also: If you grabbed him and cuffed him, he is YOURS! Get him into the station pronto, because anything bad that happens to YOUR arrestee is YOUR problem. (e.g. escape, injury, stolen pinch,etc.)
Finally: Quit acting like NFL trash talking punks from opposite teams. We are all on the same team.
Anonymous said...
What are they going to do when CPD lifts the residency rule and we all move into HH????
12/17/2006 09:56:52 AM
Hey if I can move to the burbs it sure as hell isn't going to be Harwood Heights.
Anyone work in 025 with Sgt. Don Jerome ? What's his story, is he a boss or a supervisor ?
12/18/2006 04:15:36 AM
it depends if he can put himself in for a award (medal)
How about this: Everyone who is a P.O. start acting professionally and courtiously when dealing with er Police agencies. I have always given a star a pass. And will always try my best to do so. However there are times when circumstances are beyond reasonable and your hands are tied. Then it is important for all to get both sides of the story. Reading these blogs it is obvious that most of you don't get the facts straight first. Rather you just assume the worst on everyone. Shame on all of you. You are giving the rest of the police a bad name by acting like a bunch of cry babies. Remember you didn't see a single entry from either the female HH copper or the PPO who got dui'd. But everyone acts like they were there. It is all BS. Grow up children if you want to be a professional police officer start by being professional. It isn't now nor was it ever all blowjobs and bullets.
Hey dumbfucks..in regards to traffic enforcement, remember State Statute gives you police powers in your jurisdiction and every neighboring jurisdition unless you're acting under a warrant. Get it?? You can enforce it on their side and they on ours...how the fuck did any of you pass the state test...
Anonymous said...
Melrose Park PD gave me a parker, placed it right next to my FOP sticker. The best is they are FOP too. Nice, huh?
12/17/2006 10:49:09 PM
What, you never got a ticket in Chicago. Our parking enforcement people will right anyone. And stick it to your window over your FOP, Emerald Society, St. Judes, and whatever else stickers you might have.
Some time back I was driving a covert car while working in CD and made a left turn where one was not allowed. I got pulled over and had a hard time convincing the two P/Os that I was working and a P/O myself. They never even got out of their car. Finally I just walked away and drove off. I still don't know if they ever figured out what happened just guess they were too lazy to do anything more. This all happened in Chicago
Are you coppers that dumb. We are state certified law enforcement officals. What is the big deal. Yes some jerks coppers make it bad for everyone. It been like that for the last 20 years that I know of. IF you don't like HH don't drive through it. Where is written that coppers can speed or violate the law when every they want. I'm glad we IAD and cameras etc. If coppers would just do there jobs and quit being cry babies.
HA! Harwood Heights wishes it was "mobbed up"! More like trashed up!
I wonder how this would play out if CPD chased into HH, and HH got the pinch? I have a hard time believing that CPD would say, sure, all yours, have a nice day....Being CPD myself, I can honestly say that A LOT of us are cocky....that broad from HH would fit right in on a northside tact team....
Let it go. Big deal. FBI would eventually steal it anyway.
t.r.u. wonder boy said...
I dated a female officer from Harwood Height, not sure if it is the same one you are talking about. But she was a kinky girl, always wanted to be tied up, loved duct tape, handcuffs and blindfolds. Nothing worng with it except that wa the only way she would do it. Had to be all bondaged up and tossed around hard. When I finally got rid of her, she stalked me for weeks and was a true nut case!
12/17/2006 12:49:02 AM
Can I have her #!!!!
Anonymous said...
First of all the DC is not driving around all the time, so let's keep it real. I have, as a supervisor, stopped and backed up Harwood Heights coppers on stops untill their own showed up. NO PROBLEM.
B U T if they want to fuck around I WILL PERSONALLY MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THEIR CARS THAT VENTURE INTO THE CITY GET FUCKING WRITTTEN AND IMPOUNDED. IF THEY WANT A WAR I WILL FIGHT IT. THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY THE CITY LIMITS. I REALLY DON'T THINK THEY WANT THIS BUT IF IT IS WHAT IT IS SO BE IT!!!!!!!!! THERE ARE MORE COPPERS IN THE 10 SECTOR IN 016 THAN WORKING ON THE DEPT IN HARWOOD HEIGHTS. WHEN I HAVE BEEN STOPPED THERE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TREATED LIKE A GENTLEMAN. I HOPE THIS IS JUST GOSSIP, BUT IF NOT LET THE GAMES BEGIN. ANY HARWOOD HEIGHT COPPERS READING PLEASE OPINE!! LETS GET A DAILOGE GOING BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. STAY SAFE.
12/17/2006 01:44:23 AM
Now there's supervison for ya! Yeah, impound it! Ummmm for what? Wage a war!! If Im HH, I would let you impound all of our personal cars without cause. Great idea. Where do you want your benefit?
R.A. is a great traffic copper! The man brings in 100's ayear if not more. He only dui's if he absolutely has to. Tell 009 that there sgt must have been a real difficult one if R.A. had to take him in.
Merry X-Mas R.A. You are a hero in my book!
To 02:58:34A.M.
You have the right idea. As a 25 year veteran, who has had good jobs and much work related contact with outside police agencies, I will tell you that you are wise beyond your years.
HH COP SAYS:
All night long we stop CPD who run lights, stop signs or are speeding. It's like Copland over here. Here's and idea, try obeying the laws then we will have no reason to stop your dumb asses. It's getting old seeing those cpd badges and requests for a break. More than half of you do not deserve being called the "police".
Bottom line: Practice what you preach. This would eliminate all the bitching about professional courtesy.
We don't have the balls to take care of the shitheel coppers in our own city who DUI other Chicago cops, but we're gonna "clamp down" on Harwood Heights? Gimme a fucking break. And who's gonna do it? The real go-getters in 016? The pride of the Department? You wanna be pissed off and react to something like this? What about the fuckers in 016, 019, and 018 who regularly DUI Chicago Cops? Have they been blacklisted? Have there tires been slashed and windows shattered? Have they been put on the desk or lock-up? NO! Everyone just walks right by them as they give them a friendly nod and a wave. Until we get our own city under control, lets not worry about that postage stamp of a fucking town called Harwood Heights.
Who ever was asking about Don Jerome, he's all right. He's a good guy stuck in a place where his peers don't agree with his managment style. He's not very fond of the CAPS program which indicates to me that he's the real deal and not some store bought puke.
I agree with the above poster. The prisoner should have been brought to 016 for processing, and released afterwards to HH or the FBI.
The copper that left the prisoner unattended in their unlocked squad car should of had a CR pulled on them. It would be for not properly securing their arrestee and leaving them unattended.
>>>>REGARDING HH.
AS I P.O. I AM REAL MISSED OFF AT. HH. YEARS AGO HH HAD A BAD HIT N RUN ACCIDENT , 025 UNIT LOCATED THE OFFENDER IN THE 025 UNIT AND PLACED INTO CUSTODY. CONTACTED HH UNTILL AND OFFENDER WAS TURNED OVER TO HH. HH COMMANDER WAS VERY THANKFUL AND SAID TO ME IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN EVER DO FOR YOU". WELL THERE IS , STOPPING BOTHERING OUR CPD POLICE OFFICERS. ANOTHER NOTE : MELROSE PARK PD AND STONE PD ARE GOOD GUYS WILL NEVER WRITE A CPD OR FAMILY. EVEN IF THE COP SHOULD NOT BE DRIVING. RUMOR HAS IT THE MELROSE PD ANDF STONE PARK PD ARE MOBBED UP. REMEMBER BOYS AND GIRLS WERE IS NOT SUCH THING AS THE MOB.<<<<
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12/17/2006 02:13:46 PM --
WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO SPELL?
Apparently, you don't read over what you type. I'd hate to see your case reports...YIKES!!
I HAVE BEEN A P.O. FOR 15YRS AND WORK, THE WESTSIDE. I DO ALLOT OF TRAFFIC AND PRIMARILY PROFILE GANGERBANGERS WHICH HAS RESULTED IN THOUSANDS OF CARS BEING IMPOUNDED. TRAFFIC IS EVERYTHING. BUT I NEVER WROTE A COPPER OF COPPERS KIDS AND ALWAYS TRY TO EXTEND COURTESY. ON THE FLIP SIDE WHEN I AN OFF DUTY I WAS ALWAYS OBEY THE TRAFFIC LAWS. I HAVE ONLY BEEN STOP THREE TIMES , EACH OF WHICH WERE IN THE SUBURBS. I WAS ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL AND POLITE AND ALWAYS GIVEN A PASS. I HAVE NUMEROUS FRIENDS WHO ARE SUBURBAN COPS AND THERE ARE GREAT GUYS. AS WITH ANY ORGANIZATION YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR JAGOFFS. REMEMBER THE REAL ENEMY IS THE GANGERBANGER NOT OURSELVES. BE SAFE AND REMEMBER UNTILL THERE IS JUSTICE I WILL NEVER ALLOW PEACE.
SEISER WAS STOPPED RECENTLY IN HH .
HE WAS GIVEN A PASS BECAUSE HH KNOWS THAT SEISER RUNS IT.
Go to Secondcitydick to register your thoughts on Grau, Maher and Cline. Interesting reading
I've been pulled over 15 or 20 times in and out of the city.
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12/17/2006 07:03:15 PM
WOW....You must really drive like an asshat!!
Maybe it would take getting a ticket to teach you a lesson. 15-20 times...that's just down-right pitiful. Jerk!
1:53:31--No, I don't know what "the job" was like 20 years ago. I Don't really care either. We got watch commanders that expect us to produce, too. I'm into my career for advancement.
I say that you are an asshole!
As a sgt having to deal with various problem po's ppo's maybe its a good thing he got fired, if he was still on probation and couldnt watch his ass, then i dread to think what he would have been like in a couple of years. there is a reason for probation IT MEANS DON'T F@#$ UP WE ARE WATCHING YOU or we will fire you maybe someone should have explained it to him .
I live on the border of Harwood Heights and I have always found the HH PD to be very professional and have been extended professional courtesy on more than one ocassion.
I am not a dick head driver. I was stopped twice for speeding and twelve times by Operation Angel. I like head.
If nothing else I can tell you one person who is happy this thread came up....Sgt Hitney, maybe someone with photoshop skills can put her head on a HHPD body or in a squad car.....lol
On a serious note, think about all the people who work with on a daily basis and how big of j.o's you think they are....Now picture being a suburban copper and one of these losers bitching and moaning about you stopping them.
We all know coppers can be some of the worst drivers out there, cut the burbs some slack, they aren't all bad guys.....
I AM A SWORN FEMALE CPD OFFICER AND WAS PULLED OVER BY THAT FEMALE HARWOOD HTS. OFFICER ON FORREST PRESERVE DRIVE JUST BECAUSE I HAVE THE FOP STICKER ON MY VEHICLE. SHE TRIED TO GIVE ME SOME EXCUSE THAT I WAS SPEEDING HOWEVER I HAD THE CRUISE CONTROL ENGAGED AND SET TO THE SPEED LIMIT IN WHICH I SHOWED HER. SHE THEN TRIED TO ASK IF MY DADDY WAS THE POLICE AND WHEN I PRODUCED MY STAR SHE BECAME SPEECHLESS AS I TRIED TO ASK HER IF SHE PULLED ME OVER DUE TO THE FOP MEDALLION SHE RAN BACK TO HER VEHICLE BACKED UP AND DROVE AWAY DOWN THE SIDESTREET. I WISHED I COULD HAVE GOTTEN THE VEHICLE NUMBER ON HER CAR.
I have made plenty of Traffic stops. There are indeed a few things that PISS ME OFF:
I would appreciate feedback on these if one agrees:
1) PPO's that speed or blow a light just so they can flash the BRAND NEW BADGE and get out of it.
2) THE FUCKING CHECKERBOARD HAT BAND... where are these non-coppers getting them. IT always seems to come from an unclu or an aunt in 014 WHY?
any COPPER that has a hat band on their mirror is an IDIOT
3) FOP medallions which have been bastardized and mean NOTHING anymore. i am not innocent either when it comes to giving a buddy one.
4) COOK COUNTY SHERIFFS are wannabe coppers. DRIVE ME NUTS walking with the gun all open and no discretion whatsoever
and:
5) A L D E R M A N
I say f*ck all this talk...it's on !! CPD LOVE !! Can I get a wup wup !!
To: 12/17/2006 01:53:31 pm
Hey, HH 4 yr. Serpico.
If you believe dealing with the Police is a skill, go back to the academy and learn what your skills are really needed for. I know you don't care what the job was like 20 yrs. ago but if It wasn't for 20 yr. vets to pave the way, you wouldn't be here today and I doubt your Watch Commander is looking for production of tickets to Officers or their families. If he is, He's a Jagoff too. If your disgusted, leave and go back to your former occupation. The only skill I believe your have is being an asshole.
HHPD are a bunch of wannabe's....I used to call them "Hardy Boys" whan I was a kid....they are all pussies and can't shine my shoes as the police....the only arrest they can process better than me is a shoplifter....or mover...I remember my wife going to a mandatory meeting for testing for their dept...their goofy chief actually got up in front of everyone there and stated..."We make better arrests than the CPD in that we have a very close working relationship with the Cook County State's Attorney's office and follow all of our cases through and prosecute them to the fullest". that is a direct quote!!What a retard!!! Like John J. Rambo once said..."I'll give you a war you won't fuckin believe". CPD is the best and don't you forget it Hardy Boys
Is the above ppo the same one that was going to be fired anyway for pistol whipping a hooker in wisconsin? Heard that one also got fired over a dui...
HHPD stop doing traffic stops in Chicago. And for the bank robbery HHPD was COMPLETELY WRONG.....
Anonymous said...
Holy Sh*t, why don't we bash the broad not the whole HH department. I know a few coppers from HH and they're decent guys who don't lecture us if we get stopped. We could be starting a sh*tstorm between the departments for nothing. And another thing why the hell do coppers mention other towns for no reason. Melrose, Stone Park etc.. If there are any suburban coppers reading this blog just remember the suburban police department bashers are only a few guys, probably under 5 or so. And yes I know some two or three year wonder is going to bash me for something I wrote. Oh and by the way I have double digit time on the job workingin the likes of the west side 015 in case you would like to respond with some non sense.
12/17/2006 08:34:29 PM
2 year wonder your a 15 year wonder....dork
Hey thanks I figured some idiot would respond with exactly the response I envisioned. I however don't have 15 and where did you learn that word dork from your college roommate or in the academy during your verbal judo training you asswipe.
Anonymous said...
We don't have the balls to take care of the shitheel coppers in our own city who DUI other Chicago cops, but we're gonna "clamp down" on Harwood Heights? Gimme a fucking break. And who's gonna do it? The real go-getters in 016? The pride of the Department? You wanna be pissed off and react to something like this? What about the fuckers in 016, 019, and 018 who regularly DUI Chicago Cops? Have they been blacklisted? Have there tires been slashed and windows shattered? Have they been put on the desk or lock-up? NO! Everyone just walks right by them as they give them a friendly nod and a wave. Until we get our own city under control, lets not worry about that postage stamp of a fucking town called Harwood Heights.
12/18/2006 02:47:07 PM
Amen brother...
yea i admit it-i drive like a jagoff. but when i do get stopped which is alot by burbs, isp or chgo im alway courteous and polite. guess what ive never been ticketed or dui'ed. remember when you're off duty whether ur in the city or not and u get in a pissing match with the on duty cop more than likely you will lose
12/18
2:47pm
You hit it right on the head. We got a department full of jag offs fucking over the average working copper whenever they get a chance. We got our own writing each other and beefing on each other all the time but you "badass'" want to go to war with the suburbs. This job and the people on it has become a big fucking joke.
LMAO--Sounds like something from the Little Rascals or better yet...Brokeback Mountain...009 boys....Austin would kill each and every one of those gel sportin' pussies.
Man, you don't have any idea of Austin's toughness. 009 boys don't scare nobody. haha...Burning him in effigy? He won't back down from none of them punk asses and he is one bad mutha.
009 boys ain't got shit on Rick and we ALL know it. Quit playin'.
Traffic Guy keepin' it real
DID RA Write this himself??? please I've worked with 5'01 limping 50 year old fat chicks who have smoked for 35 years that could beat his ass and still have enough time for a quick knobjob....
OOOOH old fat broads I love it!!
Signed
HH tact guy
First rule of policing:
MY CUFFS, MY HEAD
Second Rule of Policing:
MY CUFFS, MY ASS
Interpretation: You want to be a hero fine but remember when the shit hits the fan, you're first in line. . .
Yes you are right, but unlike you some coppers out there still have their testicles unlike you. Point is, catch a bank robber who tries to murder one of our own, or hell any innocent civ. Once you put your cuffs on him, that prisoner is YOURS, if you take your cuffs off of them you sir, are a spineless pussy.
The Norridge & H.H. Police officers have always been more than professional for a long time
unlike that officer who sits at Irving & Rockwell.
The bosses apparently give carte blanche to his behavior because he carries the traffic index for the District.
If the HHPD broad is not out chasing fop medallians you can find her at the fire station blowing her married fireman boyfriend or retired LT. from HHPD. Oh yeah she not only likes duct tape but fire hoses as well.
just hope you are ship shape when driving through my town because i will hammer you, your family and who ever else is in your car. you dont like it stay in that rat hole chicago. the real police HH OFFICER TJ.
The Prisoner goes back to the city, town, etc. where the bank robbery occurred. Charges of Att. Murder etc. that occurred after the bank robbery can be charged at the suburban station, it's all Cook County. C.B. numbers are not that important in life.
I smell a young PO trying to gain more felony points to make the Tac. Team.
12/18/2006 09:58:52 AM Wrote:
Below is actually what we are talking about here. What the fuck are you thinking. I respond to calls while working, I go thru red lights................Try to give courtesy and don't be a dick.
I thought I already explained what the fuck I was thinking. Your not above the law, plain and simple. I agree with most of your response and I understand that the way we drive in a squad gets to be a habbit and that is why, as I stated, I have not written any P.O's and I see no reason to start even if its a HH copper. I do give a courtesy pass. I appreciate the effort to get to 10-1's and other calls but however you drive on duty does not entitle you to drive that way off duty. AGAIN, I DONT WRITE COPPERS, but everyone seems to forget that laws apply to us too. Maybe part of the problem is that you think every cop that pulls you over when your in your personal car is a dick. They are not dicks, and they are also not psycics. They dont know your a copper till they stop you (FOP medallions, and hat bands do not mean the driver is related to or is a cop). They are just coppers doing their job which is to enforce the laws (one of which you violated). I dont think any of this would be an issue if coppers didnt act like they were entitled to a pass when they get pulled over. Professional courtesy starts with whoever is getting pulled over. If you are going to be a hypocrite at least be a courteous one when you get stopped. And I dont give lectures but if someone wants to cut you a break and just give you a little lecture remember, HE IS STILL GIVING YOU A BREAK DUMBASS. Say thank you when he is done and go on your merry way ticketless. None of us were at the scene for any of these tickets and cant attest to the attitudes of drivers or coppers. There is a reason hearsay isnt admissible in court, because its unreliable and not a true account of the incident. Try giving the coppers the same thing you would want and should expect from other coppers, the benefit of the doubt.
So, that is what the fuck I am thinking. I dont think I can be any clearer and it is going to have to do as I am tired of arguing over tickets that none of us got.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
We don't have the balls to take care of the shitheel coppers in our own city who DUI other Chicago cops, but we're gonna "clamp down" on Harwood Heights? Gimme a fucking break. And who's gonna do it? The real go-getters in 016? The pride of the Department? You wanna be pissed off and react to something like this? What about the fuckers in 016, 019, and 018 who regularly DUI Chicago Cops? Have they been blacklisted? Have there tires been slashed and windows shattered? Have they been put on the desk or lock-up? NO! Everyone just walks right by them as they give them a friendly nod and a wave. Until we get our own city under control, lets not worry about that postage stamp of a fucking town called Harwood Heights.
12/18/2006 02:47:07 PM
Amen brother...
12/18/2006 11:18:22 PM
I second that! How can a predator for the police maintain a job on our own dept long enough to be well known for that shit?
HH COP SAYS:
All night long we stop CPD who run lights, stop signs or are speeding. It's like Copland over here. Here's and idea, try obeying the laws then we will have no reason to stop your dumb asses. It's getting old seeing those cpd badges and requests for a break. More than half of you do not deserve being called the "police".
Bottom line: Practice what you preach. This would eliminate all the bitching about professional courtesy.
12/18/2006 02:02:01 PM
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First off, Jaggoff, a HH cop is the last person on the planet to tell CPD how to police. I've done more police work in 7 years then any one cop on your department. It's funny that another copper would have to "request a break". Dickhead. Despite a female cop in HH being a cunt, I would never write another copper or a member of his family a ticket and I sure as hell wouldn't expect them to HAVE to request a break.
Secondly, it's true that we have some real assholes on our department too. A few months ago my wife was on Lamamie and Grace in 016 leaving a family member's house when she drove into a seatbelt mission. My wife told the female copper on aftrenoons that her husband was on the job to which she was given the ticket anyway. She was told she had to write the ticket but would give her a break on talking on her cell phone.
So much for coppers sticking together I guess.
Stay safe and Merry Christmas
We should get Jesse to mediate between our two departments soes that it'll bees a peaceful Crissmiss! Sheeeit!
Off Topic but very important!
THIS COULD BE YOU - SO BE CAREFUL
A "heads up" for those of you who may be regular Home Depot customers.
Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out
shopping.
Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic.
Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to.you
Here's how the scam works:
Two seriously good-looking 20-21 year-old girls come over to your car as
you are packing your shopping into the trunk.
They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their
breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. It is impossible
not
to look.
When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say "No" and instead
ask you
for a ride to another Home Depot or Lowe's.
You agree and they get in the back seat.
On the way, they start having sex with each other. Then one of them
climbs
over into the front seat and performs oral sex on you, while the
other one
steals your wallet.
I had my wallet stolen November 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th,
20th, three times just yesterday and very likely again this upcoming
weekend.
So be careful.
Here are the facts:
The only jerk in the entire caper was the Chief of HH. Everyone else was fine.
the shots were fired in HH.
There was a ton of confusion as to what happened where and the bad guys were in a Chicago wagon, interviewed by Chicago Detectives, taken to 016, prnited CB'd and RWOC to HH.
It is a federal crime to rob a bank so the FBI task force was involved.
There was no argument at the scene of the arrest once the Dicks and FBI task force arrived.
In addition:
I and especially my family have been treated extremely well by the HH Police over the years. I have over 20 yrs on in Chicago and raised some wild kids that drove through HH and I owe a great debt of gratitude to HH Police. There is a Officer Miller there who is truly a class act.
As Police Officers we are foolish to let the ego of one person (the HH Chief) ruin what has been and should be a good relationship between the Departments. Ther are A-holes on each side of the fence and we would all be wise to rise above such crap.
As a small statured gel-haired 009 pussy boy working Afternoons, I would like to extend the opportunity for R.A to meet one of the baddest officers on our watch-W.M. I'll let W.M do my talking anyday of the week. That beast of a man will surely make that traffic wuss shrivel up and die!
We all know he is the guy to fear out there! His immense strength is just one trait. Tough as nails-another. If anybody still believes 009 has pussy boys after meeting this monster, then let me know. Bring it on R.A!
Leave the good Sgt Hitney out of this! She is a likable supervisor and is the nicest person outside the job.
Don't compare her to HH female officer, because it's just apples and oranges there.
Austin is a great guy. He does a service by keeping drunken drivers from killing innocent people. He has earned many DUI awards for his skillful knowledge. He only dui's people who need to be. If the sgt from 009 was dui'd, then he needed to be. There are always two sides to the story. He may have saved the sgt from getting killed? You never know...
Austin has no beef with 009. Nor their sgt. He was just performing his duties to the best of his ability. Don't slam a man for making a difference. You should be wary of casting stones when you live in a glass house my brothers and sisters.
Was it unfortunate? Perhaps, but I wasn't on the scene and neither were you. As supervisors, we are held to higher standrd than our blue shirted officers. We know the ramifications for our mistakes. If you stop to think about the perplexed situation facing Austin at the time, then you would know he had really no choice. I'm sorry, but let the flamers begin.
First off, Jaggoff, a HH cop is the last person on the planet to tell CPD how to police. I've done more police work in 7 years then any one cop on your department. It's funny that another copper would have to "request a break". Dickhead. Despite a female cop in HH being a cunt, I would never write another copper or a member of his family a ticket and I sure as hell wouldn't expect them to HAVE to request a break.
Secondly, it's true that we have some real assholes on our department too. A few months ago my wife was on Lamamie and Grace in 016 leaving a family member's house when she drove into a seatbelt mission. My wife told the female copper on aftrenoons that her husband was on the job to which she was given the ticket anyway. She was told she had to write the ticket but would give her a break on talking on her cell phone.
So much for coppers sticking together I guess.
Stay safe and Merry Christmas
12/19/2006 02:05:20 AM
Hey goofball - Did I mention anything about police work? I would never, ever question all the great police work done by you. You are "CPD" and everyone knows you think your the greatest. Based on the hiring guidelines of Chicago, everyone knows that "CPD" has the most qualified coppers around.
As to your wife, here's an idea - Wear your seatbelt. It takes only a second to do it. And it's the law. Why is she above the law just because your husband is the "best" cop ever. Don't they have a sign placed on the street about seatbelt enforcement approaching? Maybe investing in a pair of glasses would help her out. Or common sense is lacking?
Obey the laws and no one will bother you Super Cop!
HARWOOD COP said...
just hope you are ship shape when driving through my town because i will hammer you, your family and who ever else is in your car. you dont like it stay in that rat hole chicago. the real police HH OFFICER TJ.
12/19/2006 12:43:25 AM
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This is the one of the funniest things I've read on this blog in a long time. I love how" OFFICER TJ" calles himself "the real police". If this is a Chicago guy fucking around, funny. If this is actually a HH guy, in a sad way it's even funnier. Since when did giving old broads movers and just sitting in a parking lot all night become real police work? Face it, fucker, your not the real police. Your a security guard. A fucking joke. The only big thing that happened in that ballbag town of yours and Chicago got the pinch. Priceless! You wouldn't know police work if it spit in your fucking face. K-Mart security guards are more police then HH. Go arrest a shoplifter, pussy!
Since when did Harwood Heights become the real police?!?!?
To 12/18/2006 09:58:52
To I thought I already explained what the fuck I was thinking.
RE: First of all I agree, anyone driving like a dick should be pulled over. I am aware that we are not psycics, knowing who is the police or not. I use traffic enforcement as a tool. It leads to great arrests. That was never my point. I have been stopped by HH and treated like an asshole. I was not driving like a dick. I was N/B on Harlem and had just entered the turn lane to make a left onto Lawerence to go W/B. Not Speeding, I did not cut anyone off, My vehicle is brand new, I don't dress like Homey G Dog, No tinted windows, no FOP medallians nor hat bands. I was stopped and told that my tire had crossed over about a foot of the white solid line that seperates the turn lane from the N/B lanes on Harlem. This fukstick came to my window like he had just won a lottery. Reciting a traffic law about failing to keep within my lane. I could't believe what I was actually stopped for. I was very polite, apologized, Identified myself and quite honestly expected, yes expected to go on my way. This Jagoff read me the riot act, and started to lecture me, and was really having a hard time with letting me go. What kind of bullshit is that.This is what Im talking about.
I don't have anything on my vehicle identifing me as the police, And generally don't drive like a dick, or get pulled over on constant basis. Some of these asshats take this shit way too serious. But it seems that these small towns employ most of them. And Im sure there is good officers in HH that use common sense, where they are who knows.
And as for
HARWOOD COP said...
just hope you are ship shape when driving through my town because i will hammer you, your family and who ever else is in your car.
You my friend are a complete jagoff, first off there is no HHPO with the initials TJ Hammer this you imposter asshat.
To 12/19/2006 02:05:20 AM
I couldn't have said it any better myself.
I've been in 015 for 6 years and before it 007 for 3. I've done more police work and made more good felony arrests then any 5 HH "cops" combined.
But, it all comes down to this : When someone asks you what you do for a living, and assumeing you say I'm a cop, what's the first thing they ask you? "What district you work in", right? Now image your a shitball HH cop. You have to say something like, "No district. I'm a Harwood Heights cop". That's got to suck to always be compaired to something you'll never, ever be. A real policemen. No matter how many tickets you write or how many real coppers and their families you hammer, you'll never be a cop. Your closer to a meter maid. A jagoff meter maid.
just hope you are ship shape when driving through my town because i will hammer you, your family and who ever else is in your car. you dont like it stay in that rat hole chicago. the real police HH OFFICER TJ.
LOL just remember you border this rathole....
just hope you are ship shape when driving through my town because i will hammer you, your family and who ever else is in your car. you dont like it stay in that rat hole chicago. the real police HH OFFICER TJ.
LOL just remember you border this rathole....
anonymous said...
Here is an idea... QUIT DRIVING LIKE YOUR ABOVE THE LAW (and tell your kids as well). Coppers are some of the worst drivers and often disregard traffic laws on their way home that they nailed some citizen for earlier. There is a reason we are "held to a higher standard", because we are supposed to know better. If you guys up north want to brew up a conflict between CPD and HH because a HH PO did her job and gave moving violations to traffic violators who happened to be coppers kids thats up to you. I never drive throuth HH so.. whatever.
12/17/2006 04:45:05 AM
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Here's an idea... stop using words like "we" when you want to make an ass of yourself. You're not one of us. South side piece of shit.
When I worked in 021 when 11th & State was still open all the house mouses would roll the light at 22 & Indiana or any where along State and when their were stopped almost always they would say, "You can't tell I'm the police." I would say NO not dressed in civilian clothes. When asked for their ID's almost instantly all hell would break loose. Please remember be polite and treat officers from any dept the way you expect to be treated. don't violate any traffic laws just because you think you have that right. If you get into an accident you will call the responding unit names because you will be mad they didn't take care of you.
I've been stopped twice in HH - once by a female copper and once by a male - both times they were courteous and helpful.
An informal poll conducted in my district revealed that everyone else who has come in contact with HH coppers has had positive experiences.
M'thinks this is a tempest in a tea cup.
Let's keep the Thin Blue Line tight and together. My 'rathole' will continue to give HH coppers every courtesy there is.
I would like you to compare the education and work history HH officers to Chicago. Let 1st start with the Chief. I think he is a Lawyer with masters degree. Capt Mario record is second to none. Det John is a great detective. None of them are greaseballs. MOB guys.
TJ Hooker?
a little misinformation here...the bad guy was not in a squad car, he was on the ground handcuffed with the arresting p.o. and the off-duty from 025 right next to him. other bad guy and p.o.'s partner were on the other side of the car, also on the ground. the harwood hts. p.o. attempted to change out the arresting p.o.'s cuffs with her own, but was promptly stopped. was she motherfucked ? probably, but i couldn't hear the whole conversation and she walked away with her tail between her legs. should she have been ??? without a fucken doubt. he was arrestin in 016...but everyone knew the feds were the winners of the bad guys custody(thats just the way it is) no biggie. did the off duty who was shot at and the tac guys from 016 want a little credit for a chase and apprehension of 2 mules for attempt murder and armed robbery ? probably... do you blame them ? but, commander price was on scene shortly after the whole chase ended. give the guy a break...where are most bosses at 5pm on a friday ? usually at 35th/ michigan for meetings. he was top notch going to bat for his guys. 016 and the off-duty got cb's for the above charges, harwood hts got to clear a bank robbery with an arrest, and the feds got their guys. end of story. if only the commander of harwood hts had the brains to say thanks to the officers involved instead of being a complete asshole to everyone involved, this would have been a great day for law enforcement in general. also, the female p.o. in harwood hts has been trying to stop people driving on the chicago side and issue tickets with her town's ticket book... once again, a feeble attempt to try to be the police (pretty sorry i might add). i have dealt with some of the guys and gals in harwood hts and some are good (and the real) police, but there are some fuckups in their department too. just looks like more when there are only 40 p.o.'s in their unit and we have 8000. price was and continues to be a prince to his guys ! was he a jagoff before ? i don't know, but he has been great for the troops in 016. like any other boss, if he fucks with you , you probably are a complete pooch and deserve it. any beat guy that writes a few parkers and a mover everyother day will most likely never ever get bugged by a supervisor. do your job and go home safe. and be careful in harwood hts. till this bitch figures out which side she's really on.
I HEARD RICH AUSTIN IS TAKING THE NEXT HARWOOD HEIGHTS POLICE EXAM.
SEISER JUST TALKED TO THE POLICE CHIEIF HH. ALL P.O.S AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS CAN NOW SPEED , THROUGH HH , DISOBEY TRAFFIC LAWS AND DRIVE DRUNK. THE REASON: AFTER THE CHIEF'S MEETING WITH SEISER HE REALIZED HH WOULD LOSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS SEISER RUNS IT.
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12/18/2006 09:58:52 AM Wrote:
Below is actually what we are talking about here. What the fuck are you thinking. I respond to calls while working, I go thru red lights................Try to give courtesy and don't be a dick.
I thought I already explained what the fuck I was thinking. Your not above the law, plain and simple. I agree with most of your response and I understand that the way we drive in a squad gets to be a habbit and that is why, as I stated, I have not written any P.O's and I see no reason to start even if its a HH copper. I do give a courtesy pass. I appreciate the effort to get to 10-1's and other calls but however you drive on duty does not entitle you to drive that way off duty. AGAIN, I DONT WRITE COPPERS, but everyone seems to forget that laws apply to us too. Maybe part of the problem is that you think every cop that pulls you over when your in your personal car is a dick. They are not dicks, and they are also not psycics. They dont know your a copper till they stop you (FOP medallions, and hat bands do not mean the driver is related to or is a cop). They are just coppers doing their job which is to enforce the laws (one of which you violated). I dont think any of this would be an issue if coppers didnt act like they were entitled to a pass when they get pulled over. Professional courtesy starts with whoever is getting pulled over. If you are going to be a hypocrite at least be a courteous one when you get stopped. And I dont give lectures but if someone wants to cut you a break and just give you a little lecture remember, HE IS STILL GIVING YOU A BREAK DUMBASS. Say thank you when he is done and go on your merry way ticketless. None of us were at the scene for any of these tickets and cant attest to the attitudes of drivers or coppers. There is a reason hearsay isnt admissible in court, because its unreliable and not a true account of the incident. Try giving the coppers the same thing you would want and should expect from other coppers, the benefit of the doubt.
So, that is what the fuck I am thinking. I dont think I can be any clearer and it is going to have to do as I am tired of arguing over tickets that none of us got.
12/19/2006 01:37:58 AM
AMEN To that!!
Treat others as you want to be treated....
We have A LOT of D$%KHEAD COPS on the CPD, and I'm sure HH has a few too - deal with it.
Do you really care WHO comes to your aide when you are getting your ass handed to you? HH, CPD, OLPD, EPD? Does it matter? I think not, as long as it is BLUE.
GROW UP!
JUST HAD A MEETING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF OF HH. PEACE IS AT HAND. HH WILL DUI RICH AUSTIN AND IMPOUND HIS CAR, AND WE SHALL THEN HAVE THE PEACE BETWEEN CPD AND HH.
UNTILL THERE IS JUSTICE WE CAN NEVER ALLOW PEACE.
Wallet theft victim: ha ha lmao!
12/19/2006 12:39:18 PM
Bite my sack you Asshat wannabee copper.
The Real HH Police:
I live in the suburbs and do not drink at all. I obey all traffic laws and never tell anyone I am the police. I have never gotten a ticket in my life. I was number 2 on the list 12 years ago. 95% of CPD wouldnt even get on this job. I know, you dont want it anyway because your the real police. All you idiots driving thru here drunk and disobeying traffic laws are a poor excuse for a officer. I have given breaks to all of you in the past. Things now have changed. Based on all the ignorant comments and the way things played out on Harlem, I am now writing everyone. I know you'll get me. But as I listed above, good luck. I dont cross over the city line nor do I want to.
I am sick and tired of the unprofessionalism displayed by the CPD in our city. Drunk, ignorant and arrogant is all I get. I am playing but the new set of rules you are mentioning on this blog.
The CPD are the real police in their own heads. Not much of an accomplishment getting on that department.
12/17/2006 09:35:42 PM
I agree Austin should get his ass kicked but I have seen some of the "Boys From 009", more like the Morons of 009.
Hey dumbfucks..in regards to traffic enforcement, remember State Statute gives you police powers in your jurisdiction and every neighboring jurisdition unless you're acting under a warrant. Get it?? You can enforce it on their side and they on ours...how the fuck did any of you pass the state test...
It is still unethical to do traffic in different juristiction.
Oh contrare dipshit,
The state law changed over 10 years ago. As long as you are on duty you have police powers all over the state. That adjoining juristiction stuff was the old law. I even know that. How did YOU pass the test?
At least I got my white shirt, no wonder you can't get one.
To 4:33:30
Good boy, you get a smiley face, and only a dumbfuck would brag about the color of his shirt. By the way, feel free to come on down and shine my bars, oh wait....I'm on furlough!!!
8:53am
I agree. Immense size. That Asian/Irish po is one huge mother! No way in hell ANYBODY to include R.A. would say shit to the guy. He's an amazing specimen. W.M. for the next Bears' lineman...Sorry Tank...time to give Hampton's old jersey number to a real bad dude!
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