Rumor Mill in Overdrive
No, not promotions. Indictments.
It's popped up in more than a few conversations here and there. Now it's making it's way into our comments sections. We would be remiss if we didn't address it. The title says "Sarcasm and Silliness," but everyone knows that crap gets flung by the bucket full on this site. We knew it'd be that way when we started. It will continue in some form or another forever.
It is being whispered that new indictments are expected as soon as this week. Also, some old names will be slapped with additional charges. If the rumors are to be believed, this is going to get very ugly very quickly. Old rules still apply - we'll post links to any stories we are directed to. Foul weather ahead boys and girls. Batten down the hatches.
UPDATE: Cool - since we posted this around 1045pm last night so we could go to bed early, we scooped the Sun Times by over 4 hours.
UPDATE: Scooped Channel 2 by almost 8 hours. We have the best readers in the world.
UPDATE: Channel 7 has the story - everyone else is still using the Sun Times early report.
It's popped up in more than a few conversations here and there. Now it's making it's way into our comments sections. We would be remiss if we didn't address it. The title says "Sarcasm and Silliness," but everyone knows that crap gets flung by the bucket full on this site. We knew it'd be that way when we started. It will continue in some form or another forever.
It is being whispered that new indictments are expected as soon as this week. Also, some old names will be slapped with additional charges. If the rumors are to be believed, this is going to get very ugly very quickly. Old rules still apply - we'll post links to any stories we are directed to. Foul weather ahead boys and girls. Batten down the hatches.
UPDATE: Cool - since we posted this around 1045pm last night so we could go to bed early, we scooped the Sun Times by over 4 hours.
UPDATE: Scooped Channel 2 by almost 8 hours. We have the best readers in the world.
UPDATE: Channel 7 has the story - everyone else is still using the Sun Times early report.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Off topic
Anyone know if the CPD concept SUVs floating around out there capture speeders? Reason I ask is there was one parked on the median at about 65th and Western as I blew by traffic at about 60mph. Could have sworn I saw a flash. I think I was busted earlier this month by those damn red light cameras. How the hell are we suppose to get to work on time or get the hell home fast without paying the little man!!!
Well since you have the rumor out there...is this more indictments with SOS or something else? Are these Federal indictments or state ones? Give us some hints..... Let us know!
Cart exempts and politicians off to the guillotines at Daley Plaza to the cheers of thousands.
$O$ in the past was allowed to run like dogs without collars. Under the past Commander Matt. Fast forward a bit we have indictments finger pointing going on. Currently we have a few coppers out on bond and some residing at the MCC.
Sometime in the next few days we will see more indictments come down from a Federal Grand Jury. These will take the form of more $O$ guys ending up in the MCC.
Why is the current Commander Wayne holding the bag? I understand he is having problems sleeping, and drinking Maalox like an Irishman drinking beer on St Patricks Day.
I for one think Wayne should not be held responsible here
More indictments/charges from SOS? Hell, I would have thought that IAD and the CCSAO would have snared all the bad apples in that unit by now. What the heck could they be waiting for? Oh, I hear they are going to snare a female PO who was in the center of this investigation but, up until now, has not been charged...
Foul weather for who? When are they going to get serious and go after the arrogant and inept leadership of the sons of supervisors that continue to make these scandals possible?!
Reunion for retired Area 2 Detectives is this thursday, December 7th, at Bourbon Street, which is located at 115th & Kedzie Avenue at noon.
All these PO's being indicted....how come no real bosses yet who allowed JF to run amuck and taint every officer and case he came in contact with.
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SCC
Do everyone a favor - don't publish unsubstantiated rumors or incorrect info. Wait for things to unfold and then comment. Innocent people are hurt by all this "I Heard" crap. Just the facts....
Why should commander wayne go down with them you ask?
Answer:
He is the unit commander. He's been protecting those assholes for years. He's tight with every sgt and P.O. involved with this. He put every one of those guys in top spots in the unit. If he doesn't go down the city isn't serious about cleaning anything up. Buy him some pepto bismol if you want.
I wonder if "Phat Phil" will show up at the Area 2 reunion and brag about his placing the racoon above "Chicken George's" desk?
Damn strange this CPD, never does it appears that anyone above the rank of sgt. screw up. It got to be something in the water at 35th st that give them total absolution.
Oh yea! we did have a Captain getting a lap dance, that should be good for how many years in the joint....well maybe next time he'll have an underage dancer or something. Let's see what was that word that they keep throwing around "ACCOUNTABILITY" it should be painted on every police vehicle we got...where else can you put meaningless LOGo's
It looks like the Sun Times has been reading the blog again, they report on this in today's paper citing "sources."
Thats bull! They should have wrapped all this crap up at the same time. Why should we take in the corn hole twice three times?? Indict them all at once, if the case is so solid. Fact is they are bringing in dope dealers and ex-cons to testify and that takes time. Prison releases and transfers are not easy. I am sick of this job and the way we are treated in the media and by the G as well as our own bosses.Answer calls write paper, retire as soon as possible!
They should be indicting LT Jake and ADS Matt with the others. Those two did not have a clue or idea that this was going on? If so,they should be indicted for stupidity,laziness or incompetence.Take your pick...
"an elite group that seizes guns and drugs citywide in crime hot spots" When is the media going to stop the "elite" fucking reference. And for that matter when is the last time they had a legit gun pinch. Taking away gun pichs like TRU from other officers dont count. As for their Sergents or Lt.'s. How the fuck are they not accountable. Where is the pressure on them. People you have to wake up. The department does not give a fuck about regular P.O's. Answear your jobs, take 2 personals, 1 lunch and call it a day. Dont put yourself in a position that 2 years latter your under investigation by the department/ FBI for doing the "real police work."
I think MATT should get some indictments,Things is sos could not be so low.If anyone is thinking about coming there,(DONT)The bosses are blaming on the POs,but they where pushing.JF and allof us..now arrest are down 90percent,Iwonder why..But dont forger to buy your X-mas ticket..They can go fuck them selfs..We are paying for the rest of someones srew-ups.Now sos guys are just waiting for somewhere to go.its the blame game and they had all the moves..No one cares anymore,and now clnes murder rate is going up-up-and up..robberys.shootings,So cline go start making arrest thats the only way you are getting them now..Oh by the way.The fop are sellouts,,,
I think we should unleash the Feds on all of the elite units that are not biddable to the rank and file police.
Currently we have a few coppers out on bond and some residing at the MCC.
Sometime in the next few days we will see more indictments come down from a Federal Grand Jury. These will take the form of more $O$ guys ending up in the MCC
You're a tool who knows nothing! There are no federal indictments on this, they are all state charges which is why the SOS guys never went to the MCC they were all in the county. I hope you have the balls to apologize to these guys and girl when this turns out to be bullsh!t(another reason why the Feds didn't want anything to do with it). And NO, I'm not on SOS, I have never been on SOS, and yes I do have more time on than you. I will take the word of another copper over any sh!thead any day of the week, it's ashame that those of you who sit here and bad mouth other coppers don't feel the same way, we could have our thin blue line back. Sorry for the ranting but let them have their day in court. Remember "Innocent until PROVEN guilty!!"
All these PO's being indicted....how come no real bosses yet who allowed JF to run amuck and taint every officer and case he came in contact with.
12/04/2006 06:17:53 AM
Run amuck and taint every officer? I had the pleasure of working and learning from him and trust me if JF came after you, you were dirty.
Those to be charged today include a female officer who had -- like four officers already charged in the probe -- been a member of the Chicago Police Department's Special Operations Section, an elite group that seizes guns and drugs citywide in crime hot spots.
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"elite" LOL
I am glad the SOS benefit bombed. Anyone who sold tickets should be ashamed.
The scrib is saying two will be charged today.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/newsroom/chi-061204sos-charges,0,6160719.story?coll=chi-news-hed
"Anyone know if the CPD concept SUVs floating around out there capture speeders? "
No.
16 people on the transfer order from SOS 01 Dec. I might be able to make it to the SWAT team after all. It's a way of life you know.
Question: Does anyone know when and where a CPD sniper actually shot and killed someone? Did it happen ever?? I'm not being sarcastic either.
The weeds have taken over the SOS garden...who was the keeper ? How profound !
Heard that there are three additional SOS guys going down. Could possibly be as many as 6. Got this info from W.C at roll call this morning.
To answer 11:19:26's question they don't catch speeders. they park on the median to run cars as they go by.
From Headquarters: JF & KH to be re-arrested, sounds like federal charges. Wouldn't post it except it sounds credible. Where does this end?
CH 7 STATED AT NOON THAT THEY WOULD HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT S CPD OFFICERS WHO A FACING CHARGES ON THEIR 4:00 PM BROADCAST.
MAKE THAT "3 OFFICERS"
How the hell are we suppose to get to work on time or get the hell home fast without paying the little man!!!
12/03/2006 11:19:26 PM
Leave home earlier like civilians do asshole
Ill tell u what I heard. From someone close to the investigation. (On the wrong end) 21 indicted in a closed indictment whether they arrest everyone remains to be scene. Everyone not co-operating hit with Official Misconduct.
They just announced it, more charges for cs, jf, kh and new charges for a girl named mh and jm(surprised about jm.)
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When do the Commanders, Deputy Chiefs, Assistant Deputy Superintendents etc. That these guys worked for get called into account? And please don't tell me how one who is to be mandatorly retired soon so he should get a break, because he was the one that fronted most for JF and brought him back to SOS.
Even though we expected these indictments for a while now, it is still hard news to digest.
We all know "working cops" and somewhere a friend or former partner is saying "He was such a good guy..or she was such a good officer..or I can't believe it, that is so unlike them"..etc.
People keep them and their families in your prayers.
This job has a way of changing people. In theory, we are all expendable by a society that cares more about protecting the criminal scum out there, than the POLICE!
REMEMBER: This could happen to any of us at any time. (I can hear some of you allready saying, not me. I don't steal or put cases on people, blah, blah, blah) But, take a more simple scenario. (Those NYC P.D. officers come to mind.)
Imagine you are working alone. You respond to a job. You are confronted by several armed subjects(gang-bangers). Fearing for your life you fire, killing one. You momentarily take cover to clear a weapon malfunction, the 2nd offender grabs the weapon lying nearby the DEAD offender and flees. He is never found. There are no witnesses or other evidence.
You are white, dead offender is black. The typical community groups, activists and Reverends claim you killed the man in cold blood and are making up the 2nd offender as part of a POLICE Cover-up!(Similar to what is being alleged in NYC incident)
Next thing you know your life is upside down. YOU get indicted by a Grand-Jury, you are placed on unpaid leave, you have to mortgage the home to raise bail to bond out and retain a lawyer, etc.
Obviously, that is a bit of fiction. But, my point is we are all free at the moment, doing our jobs, thinking at times that we are the only ones working and that everyone else is "the dog-ass."
Remember in the Police Academy when the instructor said "look around the room..some of you will get divorced..some of you will become alcoholics..some of you will be indicted and go to prison..some of you will be fired, quit, or be killed on duty, and some of you will even kill yourselves! The lucky ones will reach retirement and collect a pension!"
Everyone looked nervously around at one another, and there was some uncomfortable laughter.
Well, I've been on the job long enough to have seen one of each of the above happen to my classmates, and we only had about 35-40 in the home room. Very Sad indeed!
My point is these recently indicted officers all looked proud, just as we did on our graduation day. They probably never envisioned themselves in their current situations. Many probably come from proud "police families."
So please..Just give them a little bit of "the benefit-of-the-doubt" before heaping a load of shit on their heads.
Because it really could happen to any one of us (13,000+) out there with out warning, at any time, based on circumstances, fate, bad-luck or bad timing!
Look how many people Mayor Daley has thrown under the bus in his 30 + years of PUBLIC (DIS)SERVICE!
Stay safe, back each other up, and be proud of "the thin blue line!"
I have 25 years on this rat hole of a job, during those years I have been shit on more then once, However I can tell you this, the bosses orchestrate, encourage and condone tis criminal activity, The white shirts are liable this dept wont take, or help take any of them down, because they got shit on each other. (cline is the Big Rat)
For your information:
There are in the nieghborhood of twenty individuals involved. The investigation is more comprehensive then a he said/she said with drug dealers.
You can run but you can not hide.
Wayne, friend here, resign the spot at SOS , and go back to a watch ASAP. Your chinaman is looking to throw you under the bus. Just ask around, look at the army of "friends" HE has screwed over to promote his own sorry ass. He picked you Wayne because he knows you are a good man and will fall on your sword for him. Word has it HE is setting you up. Protect yourself, you're too nice a guy to get screwed by him.
Downtown's never ending quest for more and more numbers: how much did this play a part in this disaster? Does downtown care how these numbers are obtained? No. They just want to give another press conference.
To 11:56:16
I guess you aren't familar with the terms wire tap or video are you?
11:56:16,Could not agree with you More. If this was slamdunk the "G"would have been all over it.I to don't take the word of shithead Gangbangers who are looking to "DEAL" their way out of Prison time by hooking up working Police. What ever happened ,I hope all those coppers keep their mouths shut and are vindicated.This is what criminals want. throw enough shit on the police some will stick and smart Police will back-off on aggressive Policing. No wonder Murder rates are climbing. Signed, 20 YR Vet.
Run amuck and taint every officer? I had the pleasure of working and learning from him and trust me if JF came after you, you were dirty.
Yeah, how dirty was the fireman who door got kicked in while he and his family were in bed?
To: 12/04/2006 04:46:48 PM
Yeah, JM is a great guy. A merit Sgt. Please.
Ispeeved.blogspot.com
did this state trooper site go off the air for good?
I know they had a cpd link, and was a source for
good info such as this site.
any news or did something happen?
Sgt. Mc govern used to be a PE instructor at the academy for the Metro recruits about 15 years ago when he was a Berwyn ( maybe it was Burbank? ) copper. He used to be a pretty skilled martial arts fighter. Never would have guessed he'd be involved in this mess. It saddens me to see this. Especially since I am assuming that he is charged today because someone else gave him up and will walk for it. The only thing that turns my stomach faster than a thief is a rat!!!!!!!
You got your info from the Slum-Times late addition...what a ...!!
12/04/2006 08:19:40 AM You are a dumbshit.
Do you realy think Cmdr WG would protect dirty cops and jepardise his famly. He was a solid beat guy and tact guy in 011 back in the day.He was and still is a good man.
JF and CS routinely came in with tremendous arrests, they were always hard working coppers. KH and TS made some solid arrests, but KH is a little snake.If, and I repeat if, they are guilty of there allegations, when and why they choose to go bad is a mystry. If WG had any idea or reasin to believe that they were taking $$$, I know he would done something about it. If there guilty, they deserve what they get, there big boys who made there own decisions. They made all us look bad.
LT JB knew them better then anyone and wouldn't stand for any theiving either. JB is one of the best that I ever worked for.If he didnt see it, no else could have either. So lay off WG f**knuts.
westside21 said...
I think we should unleash the Feds on all of the elite units that are not biddable to the rank and file police.
12/04/2006 11:55:03 AM
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Ya, THAT will solve alot!
Hey - Does anybody know when the next benefit for the SOS guys and girl is going to be???
State trooper site is still up, it's in SCC's links on the right hand side. ispeeved is on vacation though
That fireman wasn't as honest as he seems. Every fireman who knows him says he runs a helluva bookie operation out of the house - he's mobbed up. Or at least he used to until JF and crew broke it up.
I know several of these officers personally and they were great officers and it's ashame to see all of this going on. Please remember people, if it's not yours, don't take it, if you take it, inventory it(all of it!!), and if you couldn't catch him dirty today, he'll be dirty tomorrow. Try to remember this old saying," He who battles monsters must be extra careful not to become one himself." Stay safe, look out for each other, and if you see one of us doing something stupid, don't be afraid to take the one second to say,"Hey, I don't think that's a good idea." You might just keep another good officer from taking a wrong turn.
Hmmmmm... that explains why all these mysterious coppers are showing up in the Districts. Some were dumped, some dumped but still under investigation, and some who were able to call their juice and get them outta there pronto! This explains the guy who went to 018 from S.O.S. - A.M. You're a piece of garbage! and another guy who came from S.O.S., went to 016, 012 and another guy who was able to enter another "Elite" unit ("Elite" ha!), FTF but got dumped from there and sent to 005.
So, to all you former S.O.S. guys, if you can spit out the Silver Spoons from your mouths, and BEHAVE yourselves!, Welcome to Patrol.
12/04/2006 01:24:20 PM
Anonymous said...
"Question: Does anyone know when and where a CPD sniper actually shot and killed someone? Did it happen ever?? I'm not being sarcastic either."
YEAH! WHEN THEY WERE PLAYING "RAINBOW SIX" THE VIDEO GAME!!!!
I have been on the job for nine years and have been the working police all of those years.
It seems these days though, as many seem to agree, that it doesn't pay to be out there working these days. Not defending what these guys allegedly did.
But with the feds setting us up, a mayor/machine that throws us under the bus whenever politically convenient, "reverands" making police policy, not giving us the technology/equipment we need, being forced to live in a city we cannot afford to live/own a house in, the most openly corrupt city/county/state government I have EVER seen, a promotional process that only benefits the clout babies, etc.....why risk it?
So THEY can get re-elected over our hard work and we continue to get shit on? Time for all of us to think about these things!
b. rice still untouched.. wow
TO 12/04/06 8:36:27pm
The fireman was even on the news bitch'n how THEY came in during a party. What were u doing when that broke, drying out?
Thanks to 10:01:48pm; I heard thru MY grapevine that THEY were hitting all badguys. I knew when I saw that greaseball firefighter that he was dirty.(By the way, my name ends in vowel,and Im not a Syrian)
Cops have been robbing criminals since Christ was a Corporal; all u people "in shock" go get a mutha fookin life!!!!!!!!!
All I want to know is? Why is it that one of the biggest f-ing shitbag cops is still on the payroll through all of this. Det. BR is still collecting a check and walking around a free man. well free anyway he is far from a man. This is the second time this type of thing happened first in 015 and now in SOS and he is still free. What the first one to rat goes free!!!! BR is a rat and has ratted everyone out.
SO IT MUST BE TRUE, MJ WENT TO THE GRAND JURY AND AND SAID WHATEVER HE HAD TOO, IN AN EFFORT TO SAVE HIS OWN SKIN. THE SAD PART IS, IS THAT MJ WAS THE MAIN REASON COPPERS GET SUCH A BAD NAME, I HAVE NEVER MET A BIGGER PIECE OF SHIT. I CANNOT THINK OF ONE PARTNER THAT HE HAS WORKED WITH THAT WOULD SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT HIM. IT WAS SAID HE WAS HAS BEEN WALKING HIS LATE AT NIGHT HOPING THIS ALL A BAD DREAM.
READ...NOT a bosses kid FIRST
12/04/2006 06:45:01 PM
NOW......Remember, that THIN BLUE LINE is NOT a slogan it's a way of life for all of us in the CPD.
Some of us on the job a few years back remember a similar incident in which there was a 'life-threatening' shooting incident in which the brother officers, after securing the scene of a police shooting, could not find the offenders weapon, PANICKED, and left the scene.
While initially 100% justified, because they left [knowing they would be CRUCIFIED by the press and the 'community'] they cast doubt on the true 'justification' for the shooting.
Here's my point.... WE are not respected, appreciated, understood, or backed up in society in general. WE have to then look out for OURSELVES.
Minimize the controversy [if possible]
Back to the top. ..."Remember that THIN BLUE LINE" [No one else will]
An ol'vet
Run amuck and taint every officer? I had the pleasure of working and learning from him and trust me if JF came after you, you were dirty.
Yeah, how dirty was the fireman who door got kicked in while he and his family were in bed?
dirty, that shit bag was the neighborhood coke head till he got hired by the cfd... fact!!
That fireman wasn't as honest as he seems. Every fireman who knows him says he runs a helluva bookie operation out of the house - he's mobbed up. Or at least he used to until JF and crew broke it up.
mobbed up... please nothing but a past coke head freak!!!
All of you goofs asking why more supervisors aren't going down in all this crap: do you know anything at all about how a case works? Someone would have to come forward and say that they (the supervisors) were either personally involved or else prove that they knew what was going on and did nothing about it. This shit, "If they didn't know what was going on, they had to be stupid," is not enough to charge them with ANYTHING, so stop your jealous whining.
Innocent until proven guilty...or did someone let Mayor fuckhead-i mean-Daley touch the Constitution?
Can't wait to see how many murders we end with in 2007, now that contact cards and dispersals are more important than guns and drugs. Let's all get the quota of "quality of life" arrests and keep out of trouble. Never mind that some of us work in the neighborhoods we live in and would like to raise our kids without explaining why the kid two doors down took a bullet at the table during her birthday party!!!
I don't have a lot of time on, but this is a bit ridiculous. Anyone have a spare Valium? My damn nerves are shot!
they weren't there about a book operation, they fucked up, period!
Wayne, friend here, ...
12/04/2006 07:30:21 PM
Hey Asshat, if your a "friend here" then who needs enemies? You sound like a classic piece of shit.
Anonymous said...
Run amuck and taint every officer? I had the pleasure of working and learning from him and trust me if JF came after you, you were dirty.
Yeah, how dirty was the fireman who door got kicked in while he and his family were in bed?
dirty, that shit bag was the neighborhood coke head till he got hired by the cfd... fact!!
That fireman wasn't as honest as he seems. Every fireman who knows him says he runs a helluva bookie operation out of the house - he's mobbed up. Or at least he used to until JF and crew broke it up.
mobbed up... please nothing but a past coke head freak!!!
12/04/2006 11:53:37 PM
What was J.F.? How far is your head up your ass? Just because the guy you rob is dirty, that doesn't make it O.K. I pray to God this was just a baiter posting, no one can be this stupid.
06:45:01 PM
Thank you, well said.
HEY SCC:
I AGREE WITH THE OFF TOPIC COMMENTS, EVERY NOW AND THEN, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN OFF TOPIC SECTION.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, HOW ABOUT WE KEEPING COMMENTS TO- TWO PARAGRAPHS LONG.
Anonymous said...
Off topic
Anyone know if the CPD concept SUVs floating around out there capture speeders? Reason I ask is there was one parked on the median at about 65th and Western as I blew by traffic at about 60mph. Could have sworn I saw a flash. I think I was busted earlier this month by those damn red light cameras. How the hell are we suppose to get to work on time or get the hell home fast without paying the little man!!!
12/03/2006 11:19:26 PM
Afetr paying for the ticket hit the medical for a week...
TRU = The ELITE, or so they are told by their lt's, commander and every deputy that addresses their roll calls. yeesh!
Anonymous said...
"Question: Does anyone know when and where a CPD sniper actually shot and killed someone? Did it happen ever?? I'm not being sarcastic either."
YES, ACCORDING TO P.O. MJ ON THE MARINE UNIT HE HAS TWO, DURING HIS TIME AS A TEAM MEMBER.
Yeah, how dirty was the fireman who door got kicked in while he and his family were in bed?
12/04/2006 08:36:27 PM
Shows how little you know, the fireman had quite a decent quantity of coke on him. Learn the facts before you open your mouth.
What the first one to rat goes free!!!!
Not only does he get to go free, they eventually make him the Supt.
Gotta love fatty, still burning other coppers.
To 11:56:16
I guess you aren't familar with the terms wire tap or video are you?
12/04/2006 07:37:50 PM
Yes I am familiar with the terms and NO there are non on the SOS guys. Stop getting your quality info from the media.
Anonymous said...
Off topic
Anyone know if the CPD concept SUVs floating around out there capture speeders? Reason I ask is there was one parked on the median at about 65th and Western as I blew by traffic at about 60mph. Could have sworn I saw a flash. I think I was busted earlier this month by those damn red light cameras. How the hell are we suppose to get to work on time or get the hell home fast without paying the little man!!!
12/03/2006 11:19:26 PM
Thats beat 825 no camera, sherlock holmes. Slow down
Yes I am familiar with the terms and NO there are non on the SOS guys. Stop getting your quality info from the media....
maybe you aren't familiar with the Profer that's been making the rounds of the District and Unit offices. You know that typewritten document that spells out the charges and allegations in detail that let a judge find probably cause to hold certain offenders. Read it once or twice. It clearly states they have KH on audiotape promising not to show up in court twice and a couple other people. So much for you gobbling up the spew from people who are actually backing these assholes. Want to buy a fundraiser ticket?
How about we ask the other "non-stripped" officers that have been cooperating with the ASAs for months.
Who is betraying who? Who is saying what they need to to get themselves off. e.g. during the warrant, I just stayed outside...wink...wink.
The ASAs will say and do anything to shore up their case against the ringleaders. They need a conviction to justidy their job. This investigation is costing us, taxpayers, a lot of money and they need to prove that they are right.
They will not settle for anything less.
For those of you that judge others, maybe you should put on your dress blues, look in the mirror at yourself and then u will see the only assh**e cop on this job. YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
"maybe you aren't familiar with the Profer that's been making the rounds of the District and Unit offices. You know that typewritten document that spells out the charges and allegations in detail that let a judge find probably cause to hold certain offenders. Read it once or twice. It clearly states they have KH on audiotape promising not to show up in court twice and a couple other people. So much for you gobbling up the spew from people who are actually backing these assholes. Want to buy a fundraiser ticket? "
and.................since when not showing up for court a criminal offense.
Anonymous said...
"Question: Does anyone know when and where a CPD sniper actually shot and killed someone? Did it happen ever?? I'm not being sarcastic either."
YES, ACCORDING TO P.O. MJ ON THE MARINE UNIT HE HAS TWO, DURING HIS TIME AS A TEAM MEMBER.
who wer the C/O's on HBT then??
"Question: Does anyone know when and where a CPD sniper actually shot and killed someone? Did it happen ever?? I'm not being sarcastic either."
YES, ACCORDING TO P.O. MJ ON THE MARINE UNIT HE HAS TWO, DURING HIS TIME AS A TEAM MEMBER.
Ha! I gotta meet this guy. I'll just make sure I'm wearing brown shoes.
SGT. JM HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU WEAR A WIRE TO SAVE YOUR ASS? AND WHAT WILL YOU SAY IN COURT. THEY DID IT AND MADE ME KEEP QUIET. I CANT BELIEVE YOU. JUST THINK I ONCE RESPECTED YOU.
What saddens me is that all of those in the "upper echelon" of this Department and the SA Office are hounding the officers charged as well as the unit as a whole, overlooking those who supervised them. How can that be? How can a commander and a Lt. be aware of the amount of cr#'s these individuals were getting and tell them, keep doing what you are doing, and we will take care of the rest. (and yet they made them shine and one is now an ADS) How can phone calls be made demaning guns and drugs from these officers before their tour of duty was over. How can a Lt., bring an ASA into roll call essentially showing the guys in SOS that it was O.K what they were doing, and the ASA remain silent? How can this Lt. walk away from his dream team now? NO CONSCIOUS! How is it that this team of officers were not seperated long ago? So for all of those who think the supervisors should not go down, ask yourself this. If you were their supervisor would you have allowed them to stay together after all of the complaints? If so, where would you be now? Which leads me to, where are THEY now? If there is any truth to what these officers face, than they should do their time and be fired. HOWEVER, someone needs to open the door to an investigation into what really was going on in SOS during this time. What were officers told? What really went on behind the scenes to get a gun or dope during this time. It does not make illegal activity in this matter overlooked, but departmentally all white shirts should be looked at as well, otherwise what does that tell all of us P.O's???? By the way all those supervisors that touched every single cr# should be lookid into, you mean NO ONE down the chain thought this was obsessive??
Promising someone you won't show up in court so the charges will be dropped is "Official Misconduct." Only the ASA's office can make deals with accused offenders. Every time you promise some mook on the street you'll look the other way or write up a drop case or god forbid, lose some dope you found on him just for a pistol, you are committing "Official Misconduct." And they've got KH on tape twice admitting it according to the Profer and probably others too
Go read the fucking law and the Profer before you come on this site and look like a complete ignoramus. And go fetch your shine box while your at it, fucknuts.
OK, boys and girls, here's a refresher course on FED's 101: Rule 1: If the Feds come knocking on your door at 6 am saying they want to talk to you about someone else, tell them to wait outside a minute while you put on some clothes.
Rule 2: Return to the door with the phone in your hand and state: "My lawyer says you'll have to make an appointment to talk with us."
Rule 3: Close the door.
Rule 4: NEVER, EVER, EVER talk to the Feds.
A profer is a meeting between the defense attorney the aressted person the prosecuting attorney and the arresting officers, or investigators on the case. Profers generally occur post arrest, so if one of the sos guys or gal profered he or she is giving up other people, trying to be the first one in the door. "First to talk walks."
I have no background on the case, other than to know that those officers were protected and warned and they fucked it up for all of us.
If it is not yours inventory it, If it seems to good to be true, or the arrest to easy to make, walk away.
Find someone you can trust make that person your partner, take your days off and furlough together. What happens in the car or on the street stays there, fuck trying to get some pussy by telling war stories, or some dick, trust your partner if you can not get a new one.
and.................since when not showing up for court a criminal offense
It clearly states on you r subpeona that failure to appear is grounds for contempt of court, it's also official misconduct.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Off topic
Anyone know if the CPD concept SUVs floating around out there capture speeders? Reason I ask is there was one parked on the median at about 65th and Western as I blew by traffic at about 60mph. Could have sworn I saw a flash. I think I was busted earlier this month by those damn red light cameras. How the hell are we suppose to get to work on time or get the hell home fast without paying the little man!!!
12/03/2006 11:19:26 PM
Thats beat 825 no camera, sherlock holmes. Slow down
12/05/2006 02:19:02 PM
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actually its not beat 825 its a city wide unit and it does have cameras, which reads license plates to see if they are reported stolen... do some research before just assuming you fuck!
to 2:33 a.m., i go to court at least 7 days a period. i haven't seen a subpoena in a few years. i get a notification and a record # and voila...i get paid when i go to court. but, you are correct that you can be charged with contempt of court for a non-appearance. but, like a jury summons...prove i got it in the mail.
WOW...12 officers cooperating, giving up specifics. It is all in the Proper. I wonder if they only told on these officers and themselves and left out Lt's, Sgt, Commanders ect...If you are going to testify against these officers,, why not go all the way. YOU CANNOT TRUST ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!
and.................since when not showing up for court a criminal offense
"It clearly states on you r subpeona that failure to appear is grounds for contempt of court, it's also official misconduct. "
I can count on one hand the number of subpoenas that I have received. But anyway, my point was the the fact that the most serious thing caught on tape was missing court.
fpr 9:32:04- reread the original post. it asked if the SUV had a red light camera, not a plate reader. next time you tell someone to do some research and then call them a fuck, you oughta think about who the real fuck here is because it's probably you, you fuck!
what's up with no one on here knowing how to spell? you all are a bunch of ignorant fucks on here, that's for sure. and before any of you wanna fire back and call me a fuck, you're the fuck!
But anyway, my point was the the fact that the most serious thing caught on tape was missing court.
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That's where you're wrong. The most serious thing on the tape isn't that he was missing court- it was that KH was promising not to show up so the case would get tossed. That's Official Misconduct and that's 10-15 I think.
how can anyone know for sure that it's actually KH's voice on tape promising not to go to court?
because the defendant wore a wire. and KH was his arresting officer. and the defendant says "Officer H?" And KH says "Yeah?" Geez, are you thick.
Anonymous said...
"Question: Does anyone know when and where a CPD sniper actually shot and killed someone? Did it happen ever?? I'm not being sarcastic either."
YES, ACCORDING TO P.O. MJ ON THE MARINE UNIT HE HAS TWO, DURING HIS TIME AS A TEAM MEMBER.
12/05/2006 01:54:14 PM
HEY IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WITH TRUE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS SNIPER MJ FROM THE MARINE UNIT. I ASKED BUDDY OF MINE ABOUT HIM OVER THERE AND HE SAID HE IS HATED. I HAVE SOMETIME ON THE JOB BUT I CANNOT REMEMBER IF THE CPD EVER USED SNIPERS THE WAY THIS GUY IS SAYING.
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