Not Again?!?
Once again, we have to ask if the taxpaying citizens (and by that, we mean the citizens who actually pay taxes) are getting screwed by downtown:
- Hey those who live in 016. They are now sending your tact team to 005. I guess you will be responsible for your own block now.
We covered this last year and someone raised some minor stink about it. At least one or two aldercreatures were calling 35th Street for info. Can anyone verify this? Have they re-started the nonsense of sending every single team in the city to Districts they don't belong to? Why aren't they sending this 4th TRU platoon down south?
Labels: department issues, dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
48 Comments:
diificult to say who is going where....unless the dept. makes public EXACTLY how many officers are on the street (not inside, not in units, etc.); then, makes public EXACTLY where those officers are being assigned, day to day.....city council, media, public interest groups, where art thou?....
shit, they send the 4th district teams elsewhere all the fucking time. 432 & 433 doesn't have any police presence as it is then they send the fucking tact and gang teams to other districts. what a fucking joke. the bosses in 4 need to put a stop to this and also demand more police. fucking midnights is almost all 99 units with most cars down. 4 is the 2nd biggest district in the city and I'll bet it has the least amount of coppers on the street. bullshit!!!!!
Charlie William's cell phone number can be found in the watch commander's office.
As a concerned citizen, using your first amendment right, give that number to your alderman. Any time when you find out that the tact teams in the district you live in are being sent to where ever the Alderman should call C.W. direct, even late at night, and demand that they be returned.
The Alderman should not be nice if they make that call it will have more effect. The Alderman should remind C.W. that they will have to approve any new Superintendent of Police.
Just so you know, TRU/SOS has been in area 2 exclusively since Jan 2nd.
How come 003 district has so many officers? What about 021..it also has almost as many officers as 004 or 025? This makes no sense. 004 and 025 are big districts covering alot of ground, and are busy too! 021 is small and slowing down..not what it used to be.
I mean you have slow districts.. (017 or 019) come to mind..that have as many officers as insanely busy districts.
How about a re-allocation of manpower or some district realignment to solve the problem!
Here's an idea..How about the leader's..leading for a change!
Maybe the city can offer special employment where you can work your own district(016) For your information, there's a new ghetto liquor store on Irving pk./Pittsburgh Now you have lots of section 8 buildings opening up on Irving pk. Get ready for a ghetto summer.
TRU is the South Side "make-up" team remember? As in, make-up for the police that don't work. If you can't force them to make an arrest, get someone else to do it!
How about the west end of 008? the 3rd watch boss sometimes downs 811, we never see any cars there why do you think the gang-banger assholes are representing! Thanks boss for helping to convert garfield ridge from a great area into shit! can see the supt really could give a shit about where he lives!
Not true 019th dist on days has very few officers, Really on the watch if you know what I mean. Those officers are moving non stop from 1pm until 3rd guys come on.
016 is gonna be "hopping" this summer. They take one rapid from afternoons every night to go else where. And we usually only have 2 to begin with. Can't wait till they take ALL of tact and gang teams again. A ton of one man cars! OEC even stacks in progress calls when the beat cars are at lunch. Unreal! Dispatchers that are "relief" are sending cars all over the place. 10 sector to 30 sector back to 10 sector then to 20 sector. 016 is not as busy as so many other districts as we all know BUT the jobs are piled high and we have lack of "manpower". When is downtown gonna wake up and start giving all districts with low man power some help instead of just sending them into other places because of political B.S.? DAAAAAAAAH...What am I thinking?THAT will never happen!
Anonymous said...
Maybe the city can offer special employment where you can work your own district(016) For your information, there's a new ghetto liquor store on Irving pk./Pittsburgh Now you have lots of section 8 buildings opening up on Irving pk. Get ready for a ghetto summer.
4/02/2007 08:02:00 AM
Call 911 every time you see a drinker or pisser.
You may not get quick service but it gives ammunition to the alderman in regards to manpower allocation.
Who r some of you kidding??? 004 is a giant dist but, is one of the least populated areas of the city. 019 barely has over 200 officers and that includes their gang teams which rarely work in dist. 019 is very slow but heavily populated. Dists like 025 have over 300 officers. 017 is not slow, its not fast but there is plenty of shit there. 021 is slow and uneeded. It could be swallowed up by the surrounding dists and no one would know the difference. The dists screwed the most are 008 and 016. They are the two most populated dists in the city and getting busier every day. 016 needs their gang teams and more officers. 008 needs an army, the war is being lost.
Thank-you James Banks, (nephew of Zoning Board Alderman Banks) for all those "Luxury Condo" buildings in 016and 025. The cops from there will be away to ___?
Yeah, the ghetto is coming to neighborhood near you!
Moan, moan, and moan some more. Some of you people fail to look at your Uniforms, patrol cars or your checks. It says "City of Chicago" "Chicago Police". It doesn't say the 16th dst police, the 004th dst police. The distribution and use of manpower is under Police control via 35th St. The same officers who are bitching about assignments would have a shit fit, if their local politically connected aldercreatures would have any input regarding the assignments of Police Officers. Resign, quit is an option that is available to you. I guess next week you'll be trying to pick and choose what type of jobs that you will respond to.
SOUTHSIDER ALL MY LIFE
WORKED TARA LAST YEAR 3 TIMES IN 016. I NOW UNDERSTAND THE TERM "GODS COUNTRY". FORMER "HATER" NOW "JEALOUS" TO BAD I CANT AFFORD A GARAGE LET ALONE A HOUSE UP THERE NEAR HEAVENS GATES.
BUT THE CUBS AND THERE FANS STILL SUCK.
There is more crime in 005 than 016. Officers are needed to fight crime there and serve the people. Get off your racist high horse and do the job which you took an oath.
Tac- The day labor force of the CPD!
"Resign, quit is an option that is available to you. I guess next week you'll be trying to pick and choose what type of jobs that you will respond to."
Those that are on the firing line risk their lives every day.
Others(see above) sit behind a keyboard in the Ivory Tower and badmouth these individuals because they, themselves were NEVER THE POLICE.
Isnt that right COWARD?
live in 016 and ive worked in 005 years ago and we have not even small percentage of the crime down there in trigger town but we still have alot of new sh*theads moving into the south end of the district who need to be policed and w/o our tact teams assisting the beat cars in locking said sh*theads up they will just run wild..but its not like our tact teams our ever they are always in 015 anyway..no manpower shortage right?? and CW you are an asshat..seiser for super
to 11:38:00 It has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with having enough officers to fully and correctly police an area.
The 016 district is the largest district in the city and it is constantly policed with it's manpower being down 30%-40% from 10 years ago. The violent crime rate has risen in 016 tenfold in that time.
The citizens up there, including cops, deserve something for their tax dollars--which happen to be the highest residential rates in the city.
And as someone said here before, not all racists have white skin. Look at Rev Al, Rev Meeks, Lawyer Pincham and many others.
If they helped keep "the community" in order, instead of blaming others, i.e. white people, there wouldn't need to be allocation from districts, TRU and SOS could handle it.
If your not leaving your District they have you Wolfpacking. One can only guess what MORON came up with that idea. To place all your resources in one area and than leave it up to the poor Beat cop to explain why he has so many problems on his beat at the CAPS meetings without mentioning manpower issues. The forbidden "M" word. Some bureaucratic Supt. wanna-be wants to have the cure all idea for his resume at the beat cop and citizens exspense. If they just disband TRU and put the cops where they belong instead of sending them in after the homicides but that would only make sense and nobody at the top has that!! Lets send 240 cops on a rampage anywhere we want and we'll worry about the corruption and civil rights violations when we have to. The department hasnt learned from SOS. Hope people get the right beat numbers so the poor District guys dont get blamed for their bull shit..
To Annonymous 4/02/07 11:38A.M.
Suppose you tell us why there is more crime in 005 than 016. Or is it racist to ask that question? Plus why can't we who pay more taxes get more service?
There is more crime in 005 than 016. Officers are needed to fight crime there and serve the people. Get off your racist high horse and do the job which you took an oath.
4/02/2007 11:38:00 AM
Racist??? Of course there's more crime in 005 than in 016!! 40-50 years ago Roseland was a great community. Now it's a shit-hole. I WONDER WHY......
I wonder why there is more crime in 005 than in 016. what could the reason for this.
There is more crime in 005 than 016. Officers are needed to fight crime there and serve the people. Get off your racist high horse and do the job which you took an oath.
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First off, why is there more crime in 005 than in 016??
You must be a detective-more crime in 005 than 016. No shit dummy, but why do we have to suffer with no police service because the dingos that pay NO taxes and(excluding sales tax on pop, chips, dub magazine, etc.) contribute NOTHING for society get the most police service. Why do we care about shithead gangbangers killing each other over dope. Leave em for the motherloving rats.
Also, anyone that accuses somebody as a racist has no viable argument because it’s the easy way out, just like sitting around on a milk crate drinkin 40's, not working, popping out kids, claiming a disability to get free money.
Anonymous said...
There is more crime in 005 than 016. Officers are needed to fight crime there and serve the people. Get off your racist high horse and do the job which you took an oath.
4/02/2007 11:38:00 AM
To the naive "man" who wrote this gem of a comment above, 005 has had TRU there every day since January, in addition to the lazy afternoon police that populate that district. Its not a racial issue. You get more than your fair share of working police in the crime-ridden place you call home - Stop borrowing police resources from the tax-paying citizenry of 016, 022, and 008 to make up for where your police give up. The citizens of 016, 022, and 008 deserve the police service they pay for. You certainly don't. As for living in 005... sucks to be you. Oh, and ask your neighbor to stop dealing rock while your at it.
To the naive "man" who wrote this gem of a comment above, 005 has had TRU there every day since January, in addition to the lazy afternoon police that populate that district. Its not a racial issue. You get more than your fair share of working police in the crime-ridden place you call home - Stop borrowing police resources from the tax-paying citizenry of 016, 022, and 008 to make up for where your police give up. The citizens of 016, 022, and 008 deserve the police service they pay for. You certainly don't. As for living in 005... sucks to be you. Oh, and ask your neighbor to stop dealing rock while your at it.
4/02/2007 02:47:00 PM
Last time I checked taxes are divided up to the area in which you pay. The person who is "naive" is you sir, because you are among the most dangerous of racists. You are somewhat well written and shall use education to push the race issue. All haters don't wear white sheets, so it is difficult to see who hates.
No man power is a safety issue. I have been injured due to no backup. Hello citizens the police have a dangerous job we need help. I for one like to go home to my family in one piece. Keep up the good work speak out.
i say tear down 005 and plant a cotton field!
016 is 34 square miles. If it were a City it would be the 4th largest in the state of Ill.
FACT:
016 has 2 Gang Teams neither work Days.
Each period 1 Gang Team goes to 015 for the period then they switch w/ the other Gang Team.
3rd Watch gives up 1 car (rapid)every weekend to 015. They HAVE to be in RollCall at 2300 hrs in 015.
If you live on 1621 YOU HAVE NO BEAT CAR UP ON 1st Watch. They start it a 2230 hrs in an unmarked to work the south end getting curfews and contact cards.
And OT is NOT allowed.
So all of US paying $5,500 a yr in property taxes, we get shortchanged.
naive?--no.retarded yes.if anyone working in a district that they have absolutely nothing vested in..i.e. ghetto...is out there doing "work" for anything other than court money ,then you have the makings of a future supervisor.
Ask the FOP how many people pay dues by payroll deduction that will tell you exactly how many P.Os Dets etc. then just run Sgts Lts and Sapts and you will know just how many sworn there are. No way there 13000 But do you think the FOP will have the balls to say how many pay?
The coppers (beat and tac) in 016 don't so shit anyway so what's the difference sending them to another district?
morale is in the shitter! 008 is the largest district thanks cline for letting your clouted brass down beat cars! "He now Gone".
I can empathize with with those who live on 1621, I one of many (7 on my block alone)officers live on 0812.
Where in the world is 812? Are they on the east end? Hanging out at signature on central enjoying the satelite and Cable TV?
Good Police work does involve high visibility patrol, writing movers, parkers etc. NOT JUST FREE COFFEE AT 7-11 on 63/Austin
HELP ME I LIVE IN 016!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am in that fourth platoon and went there to get out of 006 after 6 years and guess where I have been since day one of TRU............006 DISTRICT!!!!! 006 wasn't a bad place to work until the most recent 3rd watch Captain came to power (M.M.)and we had another mass flight of good officers only to be replaced by recruits and PPO's. Seriously, look at the third watch schedule and three MIGHT be one car with two actual PO's on it. My current partner worked with me in 006 and left because of Captain M.M. It's nice to have a regular partner again who is a PO and you don't have to "worry" about when he get's into a foot chase or proofread his reports and inventories. Sorry to anyone new reading this but if I wanted to be a teacher I would take the FTO test. Thats not why I took this job.
I can empathize with with those who live on 1621, I one of many (7 on my block alone)officers live on 0812.
Where in the world is 812? Are they on the east end? Hanging out at signature on central enjoying the satelite and Cable TV?
Good Police work does involve high visibility patrol, writing movers, parkers etc. NOT JUST FREE COFFEE AT 7-11 on 63/Austin
4/02/2007 10:35:00 PM
Same qusetion where is 811? is the car down? the tax payers don't matter right? all the coppers are on the east end which at one time was a nice area to live, but poor not having enough police as the area was changing forced many good people to leave and the animals to move in! The west end of 008 has gang bangers all over, at the parks, hanging out! How about a tac team, maybe stop some cars "Boys on the hood" lock them up before this area goes completely to shit! it will never happen as we pay the taxes and get the shit service!@
To 4/02/2007 04:37P.M.
Taxes are not divided up to the area in which you pay. The money I pay in taxes goes to fund services throught the whole city, not just in 016, 008, or 022. Yes it is true that not all racists wear white sheets, and also they don't all have white skin.
hey south sider, keep quiet about our N/W side. we prefer that you bad rap it and call northsiders yuppies or queers or whatever. it helps keep you southsiders from coming north west. we all know that boys town is full of southsiders. more sox fans than cub fans up north nowadays, unfortunately. that AC/DC ring tone has to go
When did the truth become racism?
How about the west end of 008? the 3rd watch boss sometimes downs 811, we never see any cars there why do you think the gang-banger assholes are representing! Thanks boss for helping to convert garfield ridge from a great area into shit! can see the supt really could give a shit about where he lives!
Like 811 was going to do any work! Gimme a break! I never seen such a group of whiners as in 008... its almost as bad as the tac teams from 16 and 20 that cry they can't stay in camolot and drive around and sip starbucks... what the hell did u come on this job for!
Anonymous said...
To the naive "man" who wrote this gem of a comment above, 005 has had TRU there every day since January, in addition to the lazy afternoon police that populate that district. Its not a racial issue. You get more than your fair share of working police in the crime-ridden place you call home - Stop borrowing police resources from the tax-paying citizenry of 016, 022, and 008 to make up for where your police give up. The citizens of 016, 022, and 008 deserve the police service they pay for. You certainly don't. As for living in 005... sucks to be you. Oh, and ask your neighbor to stop dealing rock while your at it.
4/02/2007 02:47:00 PM
Last time I checked taxes are divided up to the area in which you pay. The person who is "naive" is you sir, because you are among the most dangerous of racists. You are somewhat well written and shall use education to push the race issue. All haters don't wear white sheets, so it is difficult to see who hates.
4/02/2007 04:37:00 PM
Taxes divided up among the people? The lazy, non-workers of the proletariat dragging the rest of the hard-working citizenry down? Sorry Comrade, but I must have left my little red book at home. Carl Marx was an interesting read in college, but it doesn't work in the reality. Just like taking police from the hard-working, tax paying people of 016, 022, and 008, its not going to help you because all you will do is squander it. But you're not hearing what I'm saying. You never will. That's alright though... my dog will never learn to catch that darn ball either.
Here's a good 016th district story for you - there was a good, hard working sgt on 3rd watch, used to have a gang team. the cmdr put him in the caps office last year. the sgt made all the house cats wear uniforms. he had them out on the street working details and had them come-out to back-up the 2nd watch during major incidents. he had them working taft h.s. dismissal. then, earlier this year, the cmdr dumped-him for reasons unknown. One of the few hard workers in the 16th and he gets dumped???
The Sgt. (T.C.) and P.O. M. Lappe were the two hardest working guys back there, but we are very happy to have young sgt t.c. on 2nd watch now.
stop posting about yourself t.c, get a grip-- you do not play well with others
Speaking of the 016th district tact team. Did anyone besides me (or the instructor) notice how the 016th dist. tact team skipped out on the last three hours of that Interviewing and Interrogation Techniques seminar at UIC last week. How observant they are to think that the instructor (a retired CPD) would'nt notice that big empty space where they were sitting. But hey I guess they're experts alraedy and they didn't need to suffer those last three hours with the rest of us huh? Don't woory nobody gave you dogasses up to the instructor.
did u see some of the people they hired for that fourth platoon what a joke no time on the job or just useless as can be
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