Daley Blasts Firefighters
If this is the guy we have to go through to get anything, we're going to demand the union forgo any negotiation and file for arbitration immediately. We aren't going to get any sort of fair deal from this bozo, so we might as well leave it in the hands of an arbitrator who is already bound by precedent:
- The union that represents Chicago firefighters is pushing for a salary increase, and a whole lot more. It also wants a meal and vehicle allowance, plus a stipend for living in the city.
- Despite a time-consuming internal power struggle, the union which represents Chicago's 4,600 firefighters and paramedics has now shown the city its proposals for a new contract. And the mayor is fuming.
- "Double it. Tell them 20,000, make it 100,000, make it 300,000. That's what they do. Unions ask for as much as possible. Then you have to assess what the taxpayers want," Daley said.
- "I'm not begging them to be a fireman. I'm not begging anybody to be a city employee," Daley said. "You don't want to be one? Fine. Go get another job."
The video clip was great - we'll try to find it. Daley all but told CFD to go fuck themselves and find jobs in the suburbs. Real leadership coming from the 5th floor. "If you don't like it, quit." Real maturity. First of all, the suburbs aren't hiring. Second, the suburbs don't require residency.
The mayor is living in some twisted alternate version of reality. We (and the firefighters) are compelled by state law to surrender one of the most basic rights granted to Americans - the right to live where we want. And just because residency was supposed to be a good thing when it was enacted, doesn't mean it's a good thing now. Now all it means is we have to pay for the "privilege" of being a city employee.
Property taxes and home prices have skyrocketed. New cops and firefighters have almost ZERO chance of ever owning a home. We need either property tax relief, a stipend for being forced to live in the city or residency abolished so new cops can actually afford a home instead of pouring their money into rent and losing the battle of wages keeping up with tax hikes.
The mayor is living in some twisted alternate version of reality. We (and the firefighters) are compelled by state law to surrender one of the most basic rights granted to Americans - the right to live where we want. And just because residency was supposed to be a good thing when it was enacted, doesn't mean it's a good thing now. Now all it means is we have to pay for the "privilege" of being a city employee.
Property taxes and home prices have skyrocketed. New cops and firefighters have almost ZERO chance of ever owning a home. We need either property tax relief, a stipend for being forced to live in the city or residency abolished so new cops can actually afford a home instead of pouring their money into rent and losing the battle of wages keeping up with tax hikes.
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It would never happen but could you imagine if everyone put their par forms in to leave on the same day. I would love to see the expression on his face!
THANK-YOU ALDERMAN BURKE!!!
Chicago's most powerful alderman called Thursday for a boycott of oil giant BP -- by city government and consumers alike -- to stop the company's refinery in northwest Indiana from dumping more pollution into Lake Michigan.
"If you hit 'em in the pocketbook, that's where you get results," said Ald. Edward M. Burke (14th), chairman of the City Council Finance Committee.
BOYCOTT BP UNTIL THEY STOP POLLUTING OUR DRINKING WATER
What property tax relief? The Dems in Springfield didn't continue the cap. Now the Gov, The county and daley are all talking about tax increases. No ordinary working stiff will be able to live in the city. Oh yeah, then the gov is going to tax the pensions also..
Stop writing tickets! That'll show 'em! Do what you have to and no more!
Cops are paid enough!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we all know when we got hired that we have to live in the City? Didn't we all give up our right then?
Don't get me wrong! I can't stand to live in this piece of shit ghetto ass place and a lot of city workers don't want the residency rule lifted because that means their homes will be worth nothing.
I honestly believe that white city workers suffer the most because they have to live in 008, 016, or 022 so that they can live in a semi-decent neighborhood away from all the shit.
Whereas, black and hispanic city workers can find a cheap home in all the other districts and blend in with no problem. Not only that, but they also get assistance from the city housing dept. (so-called targeted areas).
A few more years and I will be moving not only out of this city, but out of the county.
August 3, 2007 - The Chicago Police Department has a new canine officer, thanks to a generous donation.
Officers gathered at the Food 4 Less store on South Ashland to meet the canine, whose name is Ditto.
The store joined with Milkbone to present Ditto to the police department Friday.
Ditto will paired with an officer and trained to sniff out bombs and explosives. After his training, he could be working at O'Hare airport.
Silly, silly, silly stuff! I'm sure we can expect the same tyraid and strutting in front of the media when it come to our greedy demands. What I don't understand, why do we still go out and produce revenue for this midget cocksucker? Maybe we need to step up and unite with a slowdown; he can't fire all 8-9,000 of us cause nobody wants the job to take our place! Unite CPD, answer your calls and thats it. Its great that this prick just showed everyone what an asshole he really is with his fuck firefighter safety with adding a few to each truck speech. I hope this city burns to the ground starting with his precious flower pots first.
Who has the inside track on Phat Phil's Retirement Party?
Did Mayor Richard M. Daley skip it?
Did Superintendent Dana Starks skip it?
How did Charlie Williams and Hiram Grau act?
Did anyone get overly intoxicated?
What "Clout Babies" were spotted in attendance?
Why is FOP #7, President Mark Donahue, making commentary and telling the Mayor to select a Superintendent from within the CPD ranks? Why no mention of Mike Mette or any press conferences for officers?
Did anyone notice that the Illinois "Top Law Enforcement Officer", Attorney General Lisa Madigan was absent?
How many people were in attendance?
Will Phat Phil silently slip into obscurity now?
Hundreds of officers and local law enforcement leaders turned out to send off retiring Chicago Police Superintendent Phil Cline.
Cline’s big retirement party comes a day after Mayor Richard M. Daley told the police board to reopen the search for Cline's successor, and at least one possible candidate was in attendance Friday night.
Cline spent the evening patiently shaking one hand after another, as hundreds packed the Hyatt Regency's Grand Ballroom to wish him well.
"His concern for the safety of the people was very clear, his desire to work with the clergy, particularly, I became aware of… and I just have great respect for him as a man of integrity,” said Francis Cardinal George.
And Cardinal George was in good company. U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, Cook County State's Attorney Dick Devine and DuPage County State's Attorney Joe Birkett also showed up for Cline's last official day on the job.
The question remains: who will replace him?
"And I think that the search should be from within the police department… I think that the character of the police department needs to be recognized, the culture of the police department needs to be recognized and I think that there’s a lot of talent within the Chicago Police Department that could easily fulfill those requirements,” said Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue.
That may be what the Fraternal Order of Police wants, but after narrowing the search down to three candidates last month – Chicago deputy superintendents Charles Williams and Hiram Grau and an East Coast chief – Daley wants it reopened. Current acting superintendent Dana Starks wasn't interested before, but has changed his mind, saying Friday night he will consider giving it a go now that the search has reopened.
Former Chicago cop and Washington, D.C., chief Charles Ramsey, who was passed over in 1998, is now another possible candidate.
Daley says it's all about finding the most qualified person. Starks says he respects that.
Cline spent the better part of four decades on the force and was, overall, well-respected by his officers.
He decided to retire after a series of police abuse scandals.
I say we stick together for once... FIRE & Police and jam it in the ass of that Al Capone wanna be mayor of ours.
Lets embarrass the hell out of him.. Once he gets frustrated he really becomes more of a studdering stupid idiot.
CFD Local #2 has one thing the FOP #7 lacks-LEADERSHIP.
Daley is a jagoff. I agree with that. In fact I dispise the little turd. But residency is a requirement of employment. You know that when you take a police or fire test. I don't get why people are so worked up over residency. It's not like Daley just sprung this on us, and forced us to uproot our families and move into the city. Chicago, and to a greater degree, Cook County are cesspools of corpution and waste. Vote Daley and the Toddler out of office. Elect a business savy conservative republican Mayor and Board President. Let them run government like a for profit business instead of a patronage playground that uses taxpayer money like it's monopoly money. Rudy Guiliani turned NYC into a cleaner, safer, more cost effectively run city than did his tax and spend Democratic predecessors. As Governor of New York, Mario Cuomo ran businesses out of NYC with unbearable taxes. Rudy was elected Mayor and gave big business tax breaks to return to the city. They came back, hired employees, generated sales taxs, etc, etc. The county is worse than the city. They do not have a mandatory retirement age, none. Former Detective Division Chief Beavers, brother of current Cook County Board member Beavers, works for the Sheriffs Department as some big boss. He's 70 and has no plans of retiring. He's not the only one. The county has people in their mid 70's and 80's still working. There is a Cook County Deputy Sheriff assigned to Stroger hospital who is 91 years old! I aint lying. I was talking to him one day I had to go there on a job. He weighs about 100 pounds and could barely walk. Full time! Not a security guard, a Deputy Sheriff! With a gun! Don't keep reelecting these tax and spend Democrats. That's the solution.
About 12 or 13 years ago, the Chicago Sun-Times ran a series in the Sunday editions where the readers would write in questions for famous people. The second in the series was Richard M. Daley. It was during contract negotiations and after the city council voted the mayor and themselves hefty raises.
One of the questions was, “How can the mayor get a 35% pay raise and the aldermen get a 30% pay raise and you only offer the firefighters and police officers a 2 ½ % pay raise.”
The mayor’s response, “I am the mayor of a great city and the aldermen are the legislators of a great city. I am very proud of the salary that I make. If this guy or anyone else doesn’t like what we are offering he can quit. We had 40,000 sign up to take the firefighters test and he can be easily replaced.”
This is what we are up against, the mentality of the mayor.
Before we hear the ominous voice of "You knew when you took the job....." Stroke! Take your gold badge and shove it, the mayor couldn't care less about us.Never has and never will but I didn't think he would treat firefighters like that. Well, I see we have more in common than I thought.Still feel like voteing the party line smoke eaters?
Term Limits, Term Limits, Term Limits. These clowns should only be allowed to screw us for tops, eight years. Daley is a complete idiot. How can the Alderman easily vote themselves a heffty raise without a fucking peep. This city needs a revolution. A coup. I hope Daley dies of a massive grabber. The Mob has pulled this morons strings for too long.
by now, everyone reading this post should know...Mayor Jagoff doesn't give a fuck about us or the firemen. why ? because as much as we bitch about him, the city, the residency...he could hire a complete new police and fire department and pay half of what he pays us now. he doesn't care about us. the job market sucks...plain and simple. we need to stop bickering and get together with the other agencies and our half-assed bargaining unit (can't bring myself to call them a union)and fight for what we want, need, and deserve. lets band together !!!
fuck daley---the residency was a good idea until cline and daley fucked this city and a lot of suburbs by tearing down the projects. now these animals are everywhere. this city is too expensive for the average city worker and we're running out of safe places to live. catholic education is too expensive.. we already pay for public education through tax dollars, but the chgo public school system is shit. being cpd or cfd is still a good job despite the leadership and the scandals---but give us a fuckn break
a meal allowance? So the City should pay for their meals at the firehouse?
Daley being against that doesnt make him a bozo
Their demands are a bit ridiculous
We need to stand strong and vote no to the BS contract our union will bring us! Residency has become a major factor to me and most others. Yes I knew 10 years ago about residency when I came on, but times have changed and the cost has sky rocketed. To have a decent small home in a nice neighborhood I'm looking at a mortgage payment of $2,500-$2,800 month. On a single income that is hard. For families they have to pay for private schools along with the huge mortgage. Please set us free and give us the option!
Tax relief/stipends is what we want. If you live in an inflated area Mt Grnwood Garcia ridge. The Edison Park or various other north side neighborhoods you are already paying$$. If we lose residency, Most Police/fire live here anyway then we loses property value if residency is lifted. The mass of for sale signs would be devastating. Good old supply demand SCC.
Wouldn't it be nice to hear the Mayor say:
I can appreciate the issues that have been raised during the contract negotiations for both our Firemen and Police Officers.
Let me be clear in stating that our emergency response personnel are to be commended and saluted for their dedication to public safety and the public's well being. Contract negotiations are always tough as well as arduous,still, we as a city should keep in mind that many men and women of these two departments have given their lives and suffered grave injuries in order to keep us and our families safe. I will do everything in my power to respect their wishes and give them the benefits they all deserve.
Ok, he can have this job for a day. Lets WILD CAT strike! The court deputies did it for Crooked County for a day. I know its not in good faith with our Management Agreement with the City and FOP, why not. What would be the reprocussions? Anyone care to answer. Inform me, educate me...well...
As long as Daley is mayor we will never get residency. It would be great to have, but lets work for something that is doable, such as keeping our insurance premiums down, and a decent raise.
If you city workers make a good buck, that will mean less money for me and my buddies to steal. Best of all you and the FBI will never catch me.
da mayer
wow.
sounds like the Mayor needs an ass spanking.
It's time for a major change in this city...
He's right. Firemen are a dime a dozen. They have the best job in the city. Everybody loves firemen. Thats why the rule of live here to work here will stay. How many of you cops would rather be a fireman? Huh?
Daley is going to raise our taxes through the roof!!! We'll work harder to pay for his 218 mil def.
your such a good mayor who cares for his city employees.NOT!
Actually, I thought it was great what Daley said. Believe it or not, the firemen bitch more than we do!! (Bet you didnt think that was possible!)
I agree. Enjoy your one day a week work schedule CFD and quit bitching!!
Look in the mirror, you voted for him. Don't say no because how else did he get elected. You might respond "what were the alternatives"?, I say anything was better than him because then he would be out. So now eat your plate of shit and enjoy the shit pay your clout got for you because you voted for daley you fools.
Now he will raise taxes and blame the Police and Firemen.
http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=34569@wbbm.dayport.com
this should not come as a big shock that king daley does not want to give us or the firefighters a fair deal and to waive residency. lets look at what the city is known for! the city has some of the best section 8,welfare,and other programs for his program of "saving souls" which pretty much tell them that you do not have to go out at 6 in the morning,work for eight hours and to become a tax paying contributing member of society because the government will be like your parent and take care of you, you poor 40 year old on ssi who can not work because of your anger management issues and you can not handle your life like a responsible adult. these programs take money and who are some of the most consistent sources of tax revenue for this idiot? " the city employees!lets look at the political clout of some people on this job. if we were allowed to live in the suburbs, these city employees would not be allowed to vote for these "aldermen" at election time and these aldermen and other politicians would lose alot of votes at election time. my advice if you can is to look for a police job outside of the city where you could live where you want! have modern equipment that works! and where they actually respect and appreciate the police i.e. dupage county. to my fellow officers, be safe,back eachother up and go home to your families.
They always ask for the sky and the moon. But they always settle for crap because everyone wants the retro check. 3-5% raise per year is standard in the U,.S. On their last contract they settled for 2%.
"Property taxes and home prices have skyrocketed. New cops and firefighters have almost ZERO chance of ever owning a home. We need either property tax relief, a stipend for being forced to live in the city or residency abolished so new cops can actually afford a home instead of pouring their money into rent and losing the battle of wages keeping up with tax hikes."
Right on the Money, Now all you have to do is get this new Breed of Urban`Warrior w/less`5 yrs on to lose giddiness of being able to carry a gun in the city & actually show up to a Union Meeting. Find out whats going on, make themselves be heard& actually realize they'll be in the situation as those w/ more time, house,kidz , etc.
I agree 100% with the Mayor about the residency. All of us knew it when we applied for the job, as did the firemen, that a requirement for the job was that you need to live in the city. And as the Mayor said, go apply to Oak Lawn, Summit, Evergreen Park if you do like it, but stop the f*cking b*tching. When you guys talk about the residency, you sound like bigger morons than the shitheads on the street.
If the FOP, PBPA, Local 2 and all other public service city employess don't wake up and realize that the 5th floor is "OUR ENEMY" we are doomed to be second class citizens for a career of public service. As a former President of Local 2, I have seen this personally for years. Richard J. once told us "when I'm gone you guys better get a contract". Well, we had to strike for collective bargaining for us ALL and now his son as much as says 'forget it'........
WAKE UP Brothers and Sisters, and get together.
He didn't just blast firefighters but every city employee! Now when there isn't enough police or firefighters he'll be wondering what the fuck happened. I wish we could go on strike. I love this city. But between all these reverends and Mayor Daley, it's fucking out of control.
JUST SILLY THATS SILLY JUST SILLY
how can he afford the lympics, not to deal with police and fire deparmenrs salaries...he talks shit like this all the time.many years ago maybe 20 he said 33,000 people took the police exam, other peopke would take their jobs..
we need to make a neighborhood from one of those that already existed,close to the lake ,with plenty of shopping.the only ones allowed to live in said neighborhood would be fire and police. sounds like a movie
I know I know, when I took this job I knew living in this shithole city was a requirement so save that stupid comment you old salty vet. BUT, when I took this job houses in nice neighborhoods weren't $400,000 plus, property taxes weren't $8,000 a year and public schools in these neighborhoods were still half way decent.
mr.mayor put the fireman on an 8 hr work day in a day off group like the police maybe then there will be more openings in the trade unions. the paramedics earn their $$$$$$$$ and should keep cuurent work schedule. if you don't want to live in our great city quit the job no one asked you to apply
i agree with the mayor 100%
fireman should take a pay cut why do they make the same as chicago's finest it's a joke
let the cfd work 8 hours a day like the rest of the city workers
it's a part time job
i'm glad to see that more and more people recognise residency as a cost issue. i could live a middle class existance in the burbs but am forced to live a low rent lifestyle in the city.
the city has changed.....IT'S TIME TO GET RID OF RESIDENCY !
i'm still supprised that, after doing the math, anyone tests for this department.
To:
The Mayor, City Council, Media voyeurs, and other interested readers:
You get what you pay for.
You all know it.
Summerdale was the result, in part, due to an underpaid and disrespected police force.
"...demand the union forgo any negotiation and file for arbitration immediately"
Are you serious? That is exactly what the bozos at FOP did last time. Forced arbitration without input from the membership as to what's in the contract. Then we were forced to live with a contract that nobody voted on, containing some items that nobody wanted or thought we could possibly win. There is a process for a reason, so FOP can't play god with our contract.
Lets do what the mayor does lets vote ourselves what ever we want and lets do it at midnight so no one can complain about it until its done. As Benard Stone said 5% is not much its the cost of living increase!
Hes not going to give us shit! realize that. Our unions suck compared to the trades and the Teamsters. Go ask a Teamster what he pays for medical and dental. ZERO. And by the way thats with alot less members than CPD.
Why does Daley get mad and stammer at these things. We did not ask him to be the Mayor, he asked us for the privilege of being the Mayor of Chicago and courted our votes. If he doesn't like having to deal with the Chicago Fire Department or Chicago Police Department, let him go be the Mayor of Mayberry. One thing for sure, being a member of the CPD, I will never say it can never get any worse, because every day it gets more insane.
I LOVE being a Chicago Cop, but HATE living in Chicago. Housing is outrageous, a problem element is moving into my neighborhood, and I cannot afford to move anywhere else. High school is thousands per year, a freaking city sticker is 75 bucks, and I rarely see a police car in my neighborhood. (It's not the po's fault, there just aren't enough of us to pay attention to the side of Western that hasn't completely fallen apart yet) I'm having a hard time convincing myself to do another ten vs. retiring at ten and going to a suburban dept....sigh...
AMEN!!! LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!!
"Double it. Tell them 20,000, make it 100,000, make it 300,000. That's what they do. Unions ask for as much as possible. Then you have to assess what the taxpayers want," Daley said.
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I don't think the taxpayers wanted Twanna Haggerty to have 80 gzbillion dollars either. He sure rolled over for her! She never even worked ANYWHERE let alone for the citizens of Chicago!
Daley is a REPUBLICAN!!!
Born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Never had to get his own j-o-b. No one can be so rabidly anti-organized labor as he is and be considered a Democrat.
His placating of minorities is a cover to his pro-rich, pro-Big Business stance.
Wake up and smell the Elephant!
From the Associated Press
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Petitt was quoted as saying...
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Old Man Daley had our backs.
His kid sticks it in our backs!
SCC
This is probably a dumb question or I should I say compromise.
But how about;
1. The mayor can have 2,500 back from my pay per year and I can live outside the city and no longer pay for city stickers?
2. And/or Allow a city employee w/ (X) amount of years to move prior to retirement.
first it would eat up most any payraise and if you live outside the city your retirement pay and the amount the city has to contribute would be lower. Sounds like a win for the mayor and us
Hey Daley,GO FUC< YOURSELF YOU NO GOOD FUC>ING PIECE OF SHIT>> YOU QUIT>>
Cant you just live on the south and west side with the gangbangers? Why not live next to your work, and you can be one big happy family.
Make the little stutterer mess his pants. Everyone who has a child enrolled in private schools should double enroll your child in a public school. He won't have a clue what to do when 30-40,000 extra children are enrolled in public school for this fall semester. Make the little ass put up or shut up if he wants us all to live in the city. Make him supply the city services that we all pay taxes for.
"Hit'em in the pocketbook...
get results"
Can we quote Burke during contract negotiations???
Whereas, black and hispanic city workers can find a cheap home in all the other districts and blend in with no problem....
You ignorant fuck, you think because I'm hispanic I want to live with these fucking people? You think because we "blend in" that it is ok for us to live in gang infested, graffiti covered shit holes listing to that fucking accordian music. Believe me pal, I hate dealing with these fucks at work knowing damn well they are illegal yet I have to provide them service. I have no desire to live with them because I blend in, in fact, I like it here where I live, and will raise my family in this "white" neighborhood so that they don't have to grow up living in an area that looks like a third world country just because they "blend in."
Well, in reality, 4:46 hit the nail on the head. We, as a group of 9,000 or so, have the power to go into a neighborhood that was once nice many years ago and turn it around. You could start by creating a private police, fire and teachers investment club. You could go block by block. Buy property now for extremely cheap, rehab it, kick out the crack heads, gangbangers and shitholes and reclaim all of these neighborhoods. It would only take a coordinated use of resources to do this. Houses could be bought for under $150,000. Raid the drug houses, lock up the dealers and they will run somewhere else. This is what is happening on CHA land. Only, this time, city employees could control it.
It would only take a group of 10 or so investors to pick a block or two, start buying and rehabbing the houses and having concentrated police efforts to clean that area. The property values would rise and the rentals could go to other working families instead of sect 8. This is gonna happen eventually, why not us be the ones responsible for it and reap the rewards. Instead of bitching on here, lets take action. I am a policeman and I have over 20 years on the job. I also think firefighters are great and support them 100%. If we all stick together, we can do this. Please share some ideas on this subject.
That is a good idea and it would I would be the 1st to join a group like that. How can I get more info on it? How much do you need to invest? Who will watch the places while they are being rehabbed?
To 9:36 a.m. Listen Guy, we all knew about the residency, so does that mean we shouldn't attempt to change it or ask for compensation? When we came on we also knew there would be health insurance for retirees, but the city took that away.(also big thanks to our worthless FOP) When I came on health insurance was a lot less with better benefits also. Should we not attempt to change that either? The schools were better, taxes were less, homes in better neighborhoods were more affordable, shit heads were not right on top of us, etc.
The bottom line is there has to be a significant increase in our pay if we are to be required to live in Chicago. Just because we knew about residency when we came on does not mean it has to stay that way, because we all know that many benefits that were there at the beginning are gone now.
The city has no problem changing the rules in the middle of the game, why can't we?
The city is denying us an American right to live where we want? We denied ourselves that right when we took this job. No one forced us to give up that right. We waived it as a condition of employment. If this city is good enough to draw a paycheck from it is good enought to live in. Chicago: Love it or leave it!!!
Lift residency? Sounds great but what we really have to look forward to is that when the municipal pension funds go bust the city will find a way to impose a huge tax on those retirees that live out of the city.
I think it's unfair to suggest that just because we knew we had to live in the city when we took the job, means that we should not be compensated for living in the city. Having city employees living in the city (especially the police and firefighters) is an incentive at the very least.
And stop bad mouthing one another. We need to be on the same fucking side.
There is no debt or budget shortfalls in this city. It's simply a ploy to get Casino's here. If Chicago isn't making money, Illinois isn't making money. So Daley and his goons have to spin it anyway they can to get Illinois .gov to approve casino's in Chicago.
Stop giving raises to Alderman. Fire them, not give them raises. LA and NY both have less alderpeople than us. That should tell you something.
Anonymous said...
Cops are paid enough!
8/03/2007 11:39:00 PM
Have you ever been shot? Didn't think so....I have been shot on duty and let me tell you..it ain't enough. A Chicago Police Officer should be(after 5 years)paid 85K+ plus benefits. End of story!
Work hard for Daley, we owe him, he pays us, right?, not the taxpayers?
I guess our CPD Supt. candidates with about over a hundred years of law enforcement experience between them isn't good enough for Mayor Dippy Daley. Sounds like he just wants a politically connected Female in the spot. Get out the directions on how to work handcuffs boys, it's coming soon.
I could have an equivelant house in a close-by Chicago suburb for at least 50 grand less than the same type home in Mt. Greenwood, with less taxes. Our rights are being trampled on, I could still get to work every day on time if I moved only 15 miles away from the City boundaries, with freedom to choose from numerous homes in numerous suburbs. U.S. Attorney, help us please, thios can't be legal, as it was stopped years ago in other parts of the country.
It is truely amazing hoiw many people really hate Daley. I've spoke with many people in other States who can't stand him. What a piece of human garbage.
Real intelligent coming from a guy who gets chauffered around since he was a tike. What a jack ass!!!
CITY WORKERS BEWARE!!!
Got this from a good source.
The city wants to sneak in a way of fast tracking cops firemen, and other city employees off the job people with off duty injuries. Let’s say you have a car accident, heart attack or other health problem that keeps you from working. You could be off the job in a few weeks or months.
WITH NO PAYCHECK.
NO UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE,
AND WITH NO HEALTH INSURANCE.
If you are able to come back after a few months off, after hocking all you own, OK, you will be in debt until you are dead. The mayor will buy more flower pots with the money it saved on your salary and medical benefits.
"If they don't like it they can quit!"
FOP, PBPA, IAFF, Do Not Give Up Anything On Medical Benefits.
Yea residence was fine when you were able to live in 022, 008 and 016. but look around people those areas are going to shit fast. Look on the corners... look in the stores. The ghetto is coming. Where you gonna go? Back downtown? To much $$$$
The police are and always have been their own worst enemy. Unity-Police could not even block one dumb judge who shit all over them from being reelected. Every day somewhere in these posted is some phony copper jealously dimeing out another cop and backs
-tabbers stabbing some other copper. I believe that part of the reason for the last part is that a lot of office pogies write on here because it is anonymous.
"Old man Daley had out backs"
Sure he did, He was as big a rat as his son. Maybe bigger.
The only decent mayor for the cops in this town has been Jane Byrne.
I've dealt with the "you knew it when you took the job" crowd......Yes, I knew it....taxes were lower then, and a home in a decent neighborhood was affordable....just because it was good for our predecessors DOESN'T mean it's good RIGHT NOW. I thought the whole purpose of a union was to BETTER the working situation of its members...not keep the status quo.
As for the "mass exodus" comment. Even with the numbers of CFD & CPD combined we total around 5% of the housing market. Barely a dent.
If we were able to start with dropping residency with 20 years seniority (as someone previously noted) the exodus effect would be softened.
Look at the people you work with that meeet that standard, some would up& go....others may wait to allow their kids to finish school.
Step 1 is to change the law restricting the ability to take residency to arbitration.
Then the case precedent is on our side. Calumet City...A town down in the St Louis area and several others have won against residency clauses.
I think newer officers should have to live in high crime neighborhoods to help those communities.
I CAN'T WAIT TO RETIRE!!!
Anonymous said...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we all know when we got hired that we have to live in the City? Didn't we all give up our right then?
True...but when I came on the job I was not paying for health insurance and a high school diploma or a GED was all that was needed to come on this job AND take promotion tests!. They can change the rules whenever they wasnt, why can't we?? Don't give me that B.S.!!!
Someone tell Devito's inbred cousin that he's a st-st-st-st-studdering pr-pr-pr-prick.
Daley, you are truly a douchebag.
02:37, Cline had a lot do do with tearing down the projects....Not! you are one ignorant asshole. Thank you
Anonymous said...
THANK-YOU ALDERMAN BURKE!!!
Chicago's most powerful alderman called Thursday for a boycott of oil giant BP -- by city government and consumers alike -- to stop the company's refinery in northwest Indiana from dumping more pollution into Lake Michigan.
"If you hit 'em in the pocketbook, that's where you get results," said Ald. Edward M. Burke (14th), chairman of the City Council Finance Committee.
BOYCOTT BP UNTIL THEY STOP POLLUTING OUR DRINKING WATER
8/03/2007 11:28:00 PM
HOW ABOUT ALD BURKE CHAIRMAN #1 OF THE FINANNCE COMMITTEE TAKE A STAND FOR US AND SPEK OUT FOR US AND OUR CONTRACTS! AFTER ALL OUR UNIONS SUPPORT HIM 100% CORRECT AND WHAT HAS BURKE GIVEN US? 0!
Why do we keep crying about the residency. Every one of knew that was the way it was when we took the job. Why do we keep crying about the pay raise that only gets taxed double after we get it. We always lose when all we look for is some BS percentage raise that amounts to about $ 75.00 per paycheck after taxes.
We should all ban together and go to union meetings and fill that building that we payed for and have our union attempt to get us much more time off to spend with our families.
Why not ask for 20 more days off on our furlough and a zero pay raise or a 1 % pay raise. More time off will make you much more happy then an extra $ 75.00 per paycheck will. Not to mention if you really need the money, more time off will give you time to work a side job that is less stressful.
Police killed my baby..." it is just hours after the death of her son and Lula Johnson is still trying to come to grips with what happened. She says her 42-year-old son Jeff had locked himself in his room in the house and refused to come out. So his sister called police. Ms. Johnson says she gave police permission to force their way into the room... but she says she never expected the confrontation that happened next.
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Next General Order. No more domestic violence calls. What a dream. Stop calling the Police. People can handle thier own domestics.
Why can't we sue people for fighting us?
Anonymous said...
Cops are paid enough!
8/03/2007 11:39:00 PM
You are fucking ignorant!! no we are not paid enough handjob!! we are paid plenty to live in a suburb my shanty which is somehow worth $260,000, in the city would get me a mansion in the burbs...i am barely getting by lately, because of all the taxes and my morgage has gone up $400.00 in 2 yrs thats fucking insane!! i paid 189,000 for my raised ranch and was paying $1,345 a month for my morgage now $1,785 a month!!!! For what my house as of today according to the cook county's
site is valued at $150,000. property taxes are killing us. my water bill has gone up 50% i dont even water my damn lawn!!! electricity, heat, gas, everything is so expensive in this shithole...so no ass fuck we dont get paid enough if we did i wouldnt be working two other jobs as a single male. MORON!!
I remember Daley saying to a graduating class in the '90's (don't remember what class, but I think he said it to a couple) that, "If you don't like it, there are 25,000 people who will take and can have your job." (or something to that effect.) I don't agree with residency. I don't think it will ever change, and if it did, I think all of us with homes would get hit the hardest. Our property values would crumble. I know you will get the people who say that no one would leave, but they are wrong. I would take the loss on my house to not have to pay 7860 per year to send 2 kids to a good grade school. So, I take a loss on my house right away and sell to someone my neighboors do not appreciate. Now, their property values plummet overnight and they are forced to live next to the idiot I sold to and are stuck in this spiral. I buy in the suburbs at an overly inflated price (yes, everywhere remotely close will go up. I am a broker and know the 'burbs. Everything around a department that drops residency (most have now) sees a spike.) So now, I pay more for a house and get less for the house I had. I live farther from work (depending!!!!) have higher taxes (most suburbs that I would live in have higher taxes) and get better city services and better schools. I WOULD STILL CHOOSE TO MOVE. I still don't think it is ging to happen and I believe we should be fighting for better benefits, earlier retirement, better compressions, and health care when we retire. Skip this useless fight for residency that we will not get. Fight for something that is worthwhile and is feasable.
If only I had a brain.........
Per your future leader
Stop bashing the fireman. I am jealous about the 83 days a year, but not of climbing a ladder and running into a burning building. Most of them do not want our job of running after the shooter either so there is mutual respect - whether you show it or not. The thing is, the mayor and everyone else loves the fireman. Look what he just said to them. What do you fools think that means for us. He hates us as does most of the brown population of Chicago and the other white Liberal idiots? I see. 1.25% per year in our future with our insurance going up 5 - 10% and losing dental and vison.... Wait, we pay 60% for dental and we no longer have vision....NEXT!!!!
i just want to buy a house. i thought this was a good job that wouldn't make me rich but afford the simple things in life. my friends who are police in the burbs have houses. the amount we are paid per anum is a number. that number no longer buys a middle class lifestyle in this city. either increase the number sufficently or abolish residency.
it's that simple!
fuck daley---the residency was a good idea until cline and daley fucked this city and a lot of suburbs by tearing down the projects.
8/04/2007 02:37:00 AM
Phil Cline tore down the projects? They started knocking the buildings down in 1994 (& I don't think CPD had any say in it). Just shows that 2 years of college doesn't make you smart.
I am sick and tired of hearing you idiots say "you knew when you took this job" bullshit. The courts have ruled residency unconstitutional....and that probably happened after you got on the job so wake up!!!!!
Oh, Mr. Mayor, may you NEVER need the CFD...I hope they are working in Oak Lawn if you do...jackass.
8/04/2007 02:37:00 AM
Anonymous said...
fuck daley---the residency was a good idea until cline and daley fucked this city and a lot of suburbs by tearing down the projects. now these animals are everywhere.
Idiot, the projects coming down had nothing to do with Cline...that's dilly-dally daley's baby. Please, return to the time out chair and do not speak again until spoken to.
Daley is no Republican, what the hell makes you think Republicans are anything like you descibed? Republicans are: Stand on your own, be responsible for yourself,Can do type people.Democrats, on the other hand are: Make everyone else (taxpayers) pay for us, responsible to no one,can't do a damned thing on my own,live on the govornment tit people.Daley isn't either of thoes,he is a dictator. An eliteist who doesn't give a rats ass about you or me and would trashcan the entire U.S. Constitution if he could.Silver spoon my ass,you know not of what you speak.
I have noticed that anytime a topic comes up that is even a little close to the residency issue, the isue of "residency" takes over with a majority of the posts time and time again over and over. Residency is by far the most passionate topic for us, but it never gets the attention it deserves by our union or any politician.
Being forced to live in Chicago is a fucking joke. And the reality is we can't live anywhere in Chicago, because there are only a few areas that are liveable!
While I have no dog in this residency fight, I'd suggest that members of the CPD, particularly prospective home owners, check today's Sunday Tribune, Real Estate Section 14C, back page. It has a map of Chicago and its 77 neighborhoods (community areas).
The latest median value of homes in each area is listed. For thirty years, I've owned a home in what is now the most expensive (median value: $440,000) of the 77 Chicago neighborhoods. I paid off my mortgage over 25 years ago.
The only homes in Chicago with a median value of less than $200k are in 007 and Area 2 [excluding Beverly ($320k) and Mt. Greenwood($241k)].
Even homes in 011 and 015 come in with a median price of about a quarter million dollars.
Obviously, the younger officers have a compelling argument against residency while older CPD and retirees who have paid off their mortgages in 016 will want to continue residency in order that they shore up their already declining property values.
You don't need to be a real estate genius to realize that current market dynamics have rendered CPD city residency as preposterous, if not medieval.
Residency should be expanded to the suburbs, the collar counties and even northwest Indiana.
If residency is resolved by rational discourse based on cold, hard economic facts, Daley doesn't have a leg to stand on.
For even further evidence, compare the absurdity of the CPD's residency rule with other big-city police departments.
08/04/2007 01:42:00 "arbitration"
Think about your comment it is completely off
FOP loves arb because the membership will NEVER have a chance to vote on a contract.....
Look what they did not all items on the last contract went to arb in fact the FOP agreed with the city on a number of items
DID you get to vote NO NO NO
All the items were lumped into the arb's ruling
In fact an issue in our medical coverage was sent back to FOP and City to negotiate are we going to vote on their agreement NO NO NO
Imagine a city that has to force people to live in it. That's what Chicago has become a place for yuppies and their dog or ex project folk. This city is not for middle class families. That's what this city has become.
Years ago, worked with an outstanding cop in SOG; he fell in love with spanish gal with about 18 kids...moved into her place off of 26th street and kedvale...gangbangers targeted him, her, the entire family...after massive damage to property one night, he called a 10-1 and locked-up about 20 assholes;NO HELP from distict cops,
I had to come in off-duty, to help him with the paper-work AND the CR's.....This is a SHIT CITY...
I also feel that fighting for residency is fruitless. As long as democrats run this city, it will not change, and probably will not change under any circumstances. Anyone would realize that if residency is abolished home valus and the tax base would go down. Unless there is court intervention which forces the city to drop residency, it will not happen. That would be a deal breaker for the city.
I also think that we can forget 5% raises. It would be nice, but we can probably expect something in the range of 2-2.5% as usual.
The golden ring is earlier retirement, at a higher percentage. State Police-80% after about 27 years ( I don't know the exact number of years). Also see what they get in New York. This job ruins the health of the members, for many reasons, some of them our own fault (diet, lack of exercise) and some not (goofy hours, high stress). We need to be able to retire earlier.
Also better health benefits, dental and vision at a lower out of pocket price to the membership. Can someone explain to me why the medical plan will not pay for preventive actions like heart imaging, but pay through the nose for by passes and other heart procedures?
Thats what the union(s) should be looking for. Long term benefits, with reasonable salary bumps.
Stay Safe.
Why can't we sue people for fighting us?
8/05/2007 12:35:00 AM
u Can
IDIOTS....tear down the projects.
it was a young cop named Mike Ceriale that got those hellholes torn down...he was killed doing a narc surveillance...Cline was reemed because no one knew there was big time gang money (10$-50$) thousand per day going on in the "jets"...PS that cop was killed by one of the dope security
Fire fighters union local 2 kicks ass and always ahas beaten our union at anything. They have lawyers that are skilled we have drunken coppers that ride desks and sllep with Daley. They will get more cause they demand more, we will, again get scraps because we settle for that. Residency or a stipend to shut us up about it is needed.
When we took this job a pension until retirement(all things status quo) and Health coverage were part of the deAL AS WELL.
They were a part of the salary package. Once revolked or "redriected" the salary has been significantly reduced.
Residence is not a golden goose anymore once the initial package has been tainted by change.
The union should be, and I'm sure they have been, (?) pre figuring the cost differentials and their effect on the family.
The off sets should become contract issues and residency used as the lever.
Has anyone figured out how much the average ptlmn will lose or gain by the new changes if any?
I forgot to mention the dropping also of the carried health benefit between 60 & 65 for a copper over 20 years at retirement. That's at least 35 grand alone.
That's near 3 grand a month.
"CFD Local #2 has one thing the FOP #7 lacks-LEADERSHIP."
They're worse. Have you ever been to their union meetings? In-fighting, can't account for missing funds, largest pissing contest, alot of red faces and the biggest embezzling scandal to come.
When I took this job, the jets were up. The problem element was stacked halfway to the sky east of the dan ryan. Now they are living a few blocks away, shop at my stores, drive 60 mph down my street, and beat kids up at my park. I didn't know THAT was going to happen when I took the job. Same as I didn't know that a three bedroom one bathroom brick ranch up north built in the early 50's was going to run me 500 thousand dollars. Some of you who claim..."ohh, you knew you had to live here when you took the job...." Yes. I knew. Face it, the City changed the last few years. I suspect that many of you got on when you could afford a house in a neighborhood that has not changed for the worse. I suspect when the day comes that you go to Jewel on Irving Park Road and you are in line with gangbangers, you will rush home to this very post typing...."Hey, residency sucks! This city changed!" We all knew we had to live in shitcago, but we really didn't KNOW how fast and far this dept and city would fall straight down and far left. We should be able to go to a neighborhood store without having to carry our pistols....(don't get me wrong, I would carry regardless, but HAVING to carry sucks)... I'm off to work. Stay safe
If the residency requirement is lifted, all of our houses would go down in value. Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian, then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
Anonymous said...
Real intelligent coming from a guy who gets chauffered around since he was a tike. What a jack ass!!!
8/04/2007 08:09:00 PM
He is driven,his wife is driven,his grown children and grandchildren are driven all by officers making D-3 plus overtime. daley steals from everyone maybe he should just quit and get the fuck out now! waht a jagoff! I HOPE AND PRAY THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE TELLS DALEY NO! FUCK HIM! WHEN THE JAGOFF AND HIS WIFE FELL OUT AT HOME THE PARAMEDICS AND CFD WERE THERE FAST TO SAVE THEIR SORRY ASSES WHAT AN ASSHOLE!
Are you telling me that the north side does not have its share of gangbangers? And please pay attention Starbucks police, a lot of these bangers are your own kids.
"but not of climbing a ladder and running into a burning building. Most of them do not want our job of running after the shooter either so there is mutual respect"
They probably on average personally fight 3 fires a year. Even@ those you got the cowards that are ducking & hiding. No Fireman has been killed by an act of violence in Lord know how long. In the 18 years I've been w/ the CPD we've buried about 40 PO's
out of that 40 there's at least 16 of them were MURDERED the rest car accidents& the like. CFD I think about 6. Which were all traffic related.
You tell me who's job is more edangerous??
What's w/all the female POs that are FF Groupies?. Talk about weird. That includes the PO brides of FF's too. lol
I would rather have a real "shift differential" (premium) for working midnights. Shit..the short order cook at Denny's get's it, the nurse get's it, the auto worker get's it, the suburban cops get it,..WHY NOT US?
Also a Cost-Of-Living (COLA) adjustment would be better than a $$ amount raise. I advocated it here about the time the city council gave (voted)it to themselves last year.
I suggested the FOP ask for it. If it is good enough for the elected assholes, why not for all city employees?
We get $60-80 a check raise and it is eaten up by (inflation), increased school tuition, increased taxes, increased water/sewer fee's, higher prices for healthcare insurance premiums, NOT to mention more for a gallon of milk & gas!
NET RESULT..NO PAY RAISE AT ALL!
I am for freedom of choice as far as housing is concerned. NO RESIDENCY.
But, the net effect is the same. You might get a slightly bigger home, slightly nicer neighborhood, and better schools. But the taxes still go up and the transportation (commuting) cost kill you.
Look up "peak oil theory" and read up on it. In essence, we have maybe 18-20 years worth of oil left worldwide. At which time, a decline in living/health standards occurs worldwide.
The first people to suffer will be suburbanites living in their "McMansions" they'll be burning their woodwork in the fireplace to heat their homes,commuting for 3-4 hours a day to get to work. Not to mention NOT being able to even sell it at the over inflated prices they paid for it in today's shitty real estate market!
Peak oil theory really gives one something to think about. "we're all gonna die..EEEEEHHHHHHHH!"
I'll stay put for NOW!
"Republicans are: Stand on your own, be responsible for yourself"
Yeah that desribes BUSH in a Nutshell,
Daddy bought him his degrees@Yale&Harvard
Drug Addict Alcoholic
Failed Businessman Harkin Oil CEO
Can't wipe his ass w/o consulting Cheney.
Blames the Democrats for EVERYTHING.
Revolving Door of Generals in Iraqmire
Heckuva Job Brownie.
Scooter Libby
&Many,others
YEP He's REPUBLICOWN Alright,
A SHINING BEACON OF ALL REPUBLICAN MORALS&VALUES!!
Cops are paid enough!
8/03/2007 11:39:00 PM
Your right my life is worth nothing.
He's right. Firemen are a dime a dozen. They have the best job in the city. Everybody loves firemen. Thats why the rule of live here to work here will stay. How many of you cops would rather be a fireman? Huh?
Every dame one of us.
fireman should take a pay cut why do they make the same as chicago's finest it's a joke
let the cfd work 8 hours a day like the rest of the city workers
it's a part time job
Get it right we work 52hrs before we receive a day off, yet we are not supposed to be stressed out?
Stop bashing the fireman. I am jealous about the 83 days a year, but not of climbing a ladder and running into a burning building. Most of them do not want our job of running after the shooter either so there is mutual respect - whether you show it or not. The thing is, the mayor and
Sorry dude but your wrong my husband is a firemen and he has maybe one good fire a year, yet he has nothing but time on his hands works a 2nd job real easy as he sleeps at the firehouse, I on the other hand have no time as I'm the police, their is a big difference as far as the job. IT IS WHAT IT IS.
No one would move out to the suburbs anyhow, because coppers are LAZY!! Think you would enjoy spending and hour in traffic each way to work? No, cause you bitch and moan about having to drive 15 minutes to get to work NOW!!
Anonymous said...
No one would move out to the suburbs anyhow, because coppers are LAZY!! Think you would enjoy spending and hour in traffic each way to work? No, cause you bitch and moan about having to drive 15 minutes to get to work NOW!!
8/05/2007 04:46:00 PM
I already do that!!! whats another 20 min. or less because there ain't no major espressways to the nicer corners of the city. that go into the ghetto.
Look in the mirror, you voted for him. Don't say no because how else did he get elected. You might respond "what were the alternatives"?, I say anything was better than him because then he would be out. So now eat your plate of shit and enjoy the shit pay your clout got for you because you voted for daley you fools.
8/04/2007 08:43:00 AM
Um, no I didn't.
Anonymous said...
He's right. Firemen are a dime a dozen. They have the best job in the city. Everybody loves firemen. Thats why the rule of live here to work here will stay. How many of you cops would rather be a fireman? Huh?
Every dame one of us.
8/05/2007 03:52:00 PM
Not me and not many other coppers. There are still people on this job that came on to be the police. I never once considered being a fireman. I don't envy them, shit I don't even think about them or anything about them.
The day I become disheartened with the police job or envy the firefighters, I will quit this job and take up another job with the same amount of enthusiasm.
I don't ever want to be one of the miserable, jealous fucks on this job that cry about not getting ahead, but put the minimum amount of effort into everything in their lives (Family, education, appearance, POLICEWORK, hygeine, etc.)
MR.MAYOR I AM CPD AND I AM JUST COLLECTING A CHECK AND DRIVING A FANCY POLICE CAR "WHATCHA GONNA DO ABOUT IT", " I WANT TO WATCH YOUR SORRY ASS ON THE STREETS WHEN ANARCHY RUNS WILD" GREAT JOB JAGOFF DALEY, YOUR CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE IS CRUBLING AND LETS HOPE THE GREAT PATRICK FITZGERALD PUTS YOU IN PRISON ALONG WITH FRIENDS SOON GOD WILLING!
Among the SFPD, you could probably count actual San Francisco residents on one hand. They commute from elsewhere in the Bay Area.
Theoretically, a cop could afford housing in crime-ridden Hunters Point or Potrero Hill (O.J.'s old 'hood) but who wants to live in the projects?
Most of the NYPD home owners reside in the north suburbs or out on Long Island. The LAPD's version of "CopLand" is in Simi Valley in Ventura County.
Don't even mention Detroit. Virtually all the DPD reside on the far side of Eight-Mile Road.
FACT: The middle class has overwhelmingly relocated to the suburbs. The city is either crime-infested or too expensive for police home buyers.
What would you expect from the six-figure income exempt assholes. If they had their way, we blueshirts would have outhouses.
RESIDENCY MUST GO NOW!
Anonymous said...
i just want to buy a house. i thought this was a good job that wouldn't make me rich but afford the simple things in life. my friends who are police in the burbs have houses. the amount we are paid per anum is a number. that number no longer buys a middle class lifestyle in this city. either increase the number sufficently or abolish residency.
it's that simple!
8/05/2007 01:40:00 AM
Amen Brother! I cant even buy a town-house or condo!, Let alone a house!
When I was active duty in the military for over 12 years and in Iraq and Afghanastan I did'nt put my life on the line as much as I do being the Police and I cant even get a legitimate, decent raise! What The Fuck! There is no middle class in Chicago, No respect from the mayor towards the people who built this city and take care of it everyday. At Least EXPAND the residency to include Cook County So I dont have to rent for the next 10 years!
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian, then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
8/05/2007 02:00:00 PM
There are livable parts in even englewood too if you want to go that far. I work in 003, and I advise all coppers to steer clear of there. Especially if you want to raise your children. There are far too many shootings (even in the good beats ala 314). It's far to unsafe for raising kids. Maybe in 5-10 years when U of C buys all the land on beat 314 and half of 321. As for now, stay clear of livinging in districts such as 003, 004, 005, 006, 007.
As for living in 012, 013, 014 and 018. Those areas are far too expensive, and down right congested. There are a lot of affordable and decent areas in Chicago to live. Fact is, 008, 016, 022, 025(north west end) are the best places to live, especially if you want a house.
Anonymous said...
Daley is no Republican, what the hell makes you think Republicans are anything like you descibed? Republicans are: Stand on your own, be responsible for yourself,Can do type people.Democrats, on the other hand are: Make everyone else (taxpayers) pay for us, responsible to no one,can't do a damned thing on my own,live on the govornment tit people.Daley isn't either of thoes,he is a dictator. An eliteist who doesn't give a rats ass about you or me and would trashcan the entire U.S. Constitution if he could.Silver spoon my ass,you know not of what you speak.
8/05/2007 02:47:00 AM
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And here is what I see republicans as: Anti-choice, anti-free thinking, manipulative, anti-change, you're either Christian or against us, anti science, against progressive ways/thoughts, no new ideas.
You can think like a republican and keep voting republican all you want. Fact is no republican is on your side. No republican is for middle class people (police officers) So all you voting republican police officers get your head out of your ass! They're not on our side!
Do what I do and don't vote for anyone. Watch everyone else make a fool of themselves. It's better that way, because at least you know you didn't vote for anyone and can laugh both ways (dem or rep).
In regards to: " I would rather have a real "shift differential" (premium) for working midnights. Shit..the short order cook at Denny's get's it, the nurse get's it, the auto worker get's it, the suburban cops get it,..WHY NOT US?"
WHY NOT US? Because the FOP is run by police that haven't seen a station at night in years. House mice and day-time dollies get the same Duty Availability Check that stuck on afternoons and midnight rangers get.
"US" should get together and crowd the meetings and be really loud!!
The next FOP Board meeting is this TUESDAY the 7th at Noon.
The next FOP General Meeting is TUESDAY, September 18th at 1900.
Maybe "US" should schedule some time-due that evening.
Maybe "US" should get a permit and some wooden horses and block off a street for extra parking. Car pool anyone?
You got an issue, pay raises, medical, residency, don't just blog it here. Start going to meetings and force some action. Maybe “US” should invite the media and get in front of the camera and say things that will send Daley into a stuttering fury the next day.
Same thing with PBPA.
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian, then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
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Great comment - couldn't be more correct.
My brother-in-law is a policeman in Aspen, Colorado. He would love to have "residency" in Aspen. He has to settle for Glenwood Springs because everybody in Aspen is a millionaire.
To a certain extent, you have the same situation in Kenilworth and other North Shore suburbs.
You may be right that George Bush sr. paid for his son's education and what's wrong with that?Did his father take all the classes for him too?Pass the tests for him?You would rather he took tax money to pay for his education I suppose and be a leach like you and don't bring up that the guard gave him money for school.That money was earned, I know because I did the same.Maybe he did fail as a business man, maybe not.You must surely have succeeded in everything you ever did haven't you lib.I happen to be glad Cheney is his vice pres. and top advisor, you would rather have "fantasy land" Al Gore or "I shot myself and deserve a purple heart" Kerry in office I know, I thank GOD they are not.Yes I agree with you,it IS the Democrats fault, for everything.I do think Bush is doing a wonderful job, one that needs to be done. Your lib polititians would just stick their heads in the sand and hide and then monday morning quarterback all the presidents decisions.I cannot imagine how people like you can live with yourself, leaches all.Patton would slap your face and rightfully so.
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian, then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
8/05/2007 02:00:00 PM
You are goddamn nuts!!!!!! I have worked in 003 for an extended period of time, and if you think that it is a place where a caucasian who has grown up in a caucasian neighborhood wants to live, you are smoking something great! We have constant shootings and the regular ghetto bulls**&.
My neighborhood now may not be Utopia, but it is 100 times better than living in a ghetto that may or may not get better. At least my children don't have to worry about shootings on my block!
Anonymous said...
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian, then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
8/05/2007 02:00:00 PM
Yea I want to live a DOC. No thanks I don't wamt to get shot. Then when they mess with you living there. The police Dept can fire you for taking action and protecting yourself. How about quitin my job and living in section 8 for free like the rest of the animals.
Anonymous said...
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian,
OR LAW ABIDING, OR IN A GANG,
then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white
HYPES, BUSTOUTS, GANGBANGERS
residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
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Great comment - couldn't be more correct.
THE NICER PARTS OF SOME OF THOSE DISTRICTS MENTIONED ARE WAY TO EXPENSIVE AT A POLICE SALARY ANYWAYS. UNLESS OF COURS YOU HAVE A STASH OF FOUND CASH ON HAND.
Dilly Daley has the olymics to worry about not city works.
Prioritize, why should he help you. You don't donate to his causes. (bribes)
Anonymous said...
I think newer officers should have to live in high crime neighborhoods to help those communities.
8/04/2007 09:51:00 PM
I would not want any poleeces livn next to me. They kilz my peoples in cold blood
Anonymous said...
MR.MAYOR I AM CPD AND I AM JUST COLLECTING A CHECK AND DRIVING A FANCY POLICE CAR "WHATCHA GONNA DO ABOUT IT", " I WANT TO WATCH YOUR SORRY ASS ON THE STREETS WHEN ANARCHY RUNS WILD" GREAT JOB JAGOFF DALEY, YOUR CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE IS CRUBLING AND LETS HOPE THE GREAT PATRICK FITZGERALD PUTS YOU IN PRISON ALONG WITH FRIENDS SOON GOD WILLING!
8/05/2007 07:15:00 PM
I second that
As for the "mass exodus" comment. Even with the numbers of CFD & CPD combined we total around 5% of the housing market. Barely a dent.
Not in Mt. Greenwood, West Beverly, Garfield Ridge, Clearing . . . These neighborhoods would be shells of their former selves.
If the residency requirement is lifted, all of our houses would go down in value. Why is that so hard for you guys to understand?
Not necessarily, city workers are a small percentage of home owners within this city. City workers represent less than 2% of the population, and not every one of us are home owners. Not every city worker would move either. Why should I? Im in a good neighborhood
What needs to be addressed is the newer people coming on these jobs that will never realize the American dream of home ownership as long as they were hired by the city.
I think there are people that have concerns about their property values. But we just dont know if those fears would be realized.
Im guessing if someone bought within the last couple of years have the most to worry about regarding home valuation. after buying homes at inflated prices.
My brother-in-law is a policeman in Aspen, Colorado. He would love to have "residency" in Aspen. He has to settle for Glenwood Springs because everybody in Aspen is a millionaire.
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Aspen---My Dream...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I think newer officers should have to live in high crime neighborhoods to help those communities.
8/04/2007 09:51:00 PM
I would not want any poleeces livn next to me. They kilz my peoples in cold blood
8/06/2007 09:30:00 AM
Thank you! Finally got a laugh here!
"House mice and day-time dollies get the same Duty Availability Check that stuck on afternoons and midnight rangers get."
Too Bad PUNK Boo hoo I Rotated for the 1st 12 years of my career,theN I too was stuck on midnites, then afternoons then I was a SUCCESSFUL Bid on Days PUNK.That's how senority works PUNK. That's what was part of the agreement on previous Contracts PUNK.
So I suggest you & your fellow officers take your ass down to a FOP meeting and voice your concerns. I highly doubt you've ever been to a FOP meeting PUNK.
Anonymous said...
"House mice and day-time dollies get the same Duty Availability Check that stuck on afternoons and midnight rangers get."
Too Bad PUNK Boo hoo I Rotated for the 1st 12 years of my career,theN I too was stuck on midnites, then afternoons then I was a SUCCESSFUL Bid on Days PUNK.That's how senority works PUNK. That's what was part of the agreement on previous Contracts PUNK.
So I suggest you & your fellow officers take your ass down to a FOP meeting and voice your concerns. I highly doubt you've ever been to a FOP meeting PUNK.
8/06/2007 09:51:00 PM
What an idiot...is that TJ Hooker? PUNK !
I for one do not care about the firefighters. A bunch of whining crybabies who think they are entitled to the same pay we have. I could teach my dog to put out a fire. Now Paramedics on the other hand, they work for a living.
I don't ever want to be one of the miserable, jealous fucks on this job that cry about not getting ahead, but put the minimum amount of effort into everything in their lives (Family, education, appearance, POLICEWORK, hygeine, etc.)
8/05/2007 06:43:00 PM
Go back under the whits desk, and teach the family how to be a suck ass.
So what exactly makes you think the democrats are on your side? Socialist programs? The link card? handing out social security benefits to 18 year olds when real working men and women can't get them? Progressive is just another word for liberal and I translate that into socialist. You say you don't vote for anyone,well thats your right but then you are only standing on the side lines and not in the game at all.I want you to remember something, a lot of good men died for you to be able to vote, you could at least honor them.
To: Who responded to "8/06/2007 09:51:00 PM
What an idiot...is that TJ Hooker? PUNK !
8/06/2007 10:16:00 PM"
Not Hardly!
I am nearing retirement and rotated shifts, and now choose to work midnights as the street police on the west side. There are "kids", on days, on this job, on days that were in diapers when I started. Headquarters and offices are full of young, clout heavy armed clerks and secretaries that get the "Duty Availability" checks.
If you earned days through seniority, so be it. But you sound exactly as I said, "WHY NOT US? Because the FOP is run by police that haven't seen a station at night in years. House mice and day-time dollies get the same Duty Availability Check that stuck on afternoons and midnight rangers get."
A shift differential bonus would be for putting up with the hardships of working those hours and would be a good thing.
Hey to, Too Bad PUNK Boo hoo I Rotated for the 1st 12....
When you rotated there were veterans working all watches and you didn't have a kid with 18-20 months on the job working with another kid still on probation. We had good medical care and better bosses.
A true Shift Differential would be a bonus for working afternoons and midnights. Not for being a burned-out old fart counting the days till pension or death, which ever comes first.
If you work days because it's your choice and have the seniority to get it, O.K. But doesn't it make even you even a little bit mad that you are mixed in with clout heavy youngsters that get the same check.
You may even be Donahue himself and are one of the reasons FOP has sold out the majority of the membership. There should be a lot of new faces at the next General Meeting. Maybe we should get a larger hall for that day. Maybe we should get together, meet early, with PBPA, Local 2 and rent some busses and march at city hall during the 4-6 o'clock news.
So who's the punk?
See you on the picket line!
Stay safe.
And here is what I see republicans as: Anti-choice, anti-free thinking, manipulative, anti-change, you're either Christian or against us, anti science, against progressive ways/thoughts, no new ideas.
You can think like a republican and keep voting republican all you want. Fact is no republican is on your side. No republican is for middle class people (police officers) So all you voting republican police officers get your head out of your ass! They're not on our side!
I agree I'm Dependant. I try to vote for the group I hope is going to do the right thing for we hardworking American citizens. I'm counting the months for Bush to get the hell out of this officer.
WHY NOT US? Because the FOP is run by police that haven't seen a station at night in years. House mice and day-time dollies get the same Duty Availability Check that stuck on afternoons and midnight rangers get.
You cry baby piece of shit. I worked around the clock changed hours every 28 days for 14 years, I then went to midnights for another 3 then to afternoons for another 3 now I'm working days as a successful bidder. 18 of those years in a fast dist. By the way I'm a female ( also a Dolly ) Shut your filthy mouth and pay your dues.
If you work days because it's your choice and have the seniority to get it, O.K. But doesn't it make even you even a little bit mad that you are mixed in with clout heavy youngsters that get the same check.
Pay your Dues punk! Learn how to be the real Police. Your a Ranger all right, I think not. now go sit in one of the thousands of empty lots in that west side dist. goof
I might be a Democrat if it were not for Daley, and Blago. After all, we are closer, closer every day thanks to them to welfare roles than the millionares that the Republicans represent.
I will vote Republican, because I hope that they will indite the pricks. If a Democrat gets elected predisdent, the investigation into Chicago and Illinois corruption will fade away.
So I guess that makes me an Independent too.
I work midnights, by choice, to take better care of my kids and I have paid my dues for almost thirty years. The fact that someone, with practically no seniority, gets the same "Duty Availability" check working an office as I do working 1st Watch Beat Car does gall me.
Anonymous said...
MR.MAYOR I AM CPD AND I AM JUST COLLECTING A CHECK AND DRIVING A FANCY POLICE CAR "WHATCHA GONNA DO ABOUT IT", " I WANT TO WATCH YOUR SORRY ASS ON THE STREETS WHEN ANARCHY RUNS WILD" GREAT JOB JAGOFF DALEY, YOUR CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE IS CRUBLING AND LETS HOPE THE GREAT PATRICK FITZGERALD PUTS YOU IN PRISON ALONG WITH FRIENDS SOON GOD WILLING!
8/05/2007 07:15:00 PM
Me 2! Lets examine master daley! I started my shift on days took 45 minutes to get to car, oh no needed fuel, and a wash 1.5 hours gone, time for personal, 2 jobs dam now they are stacked! Time for lunch with travel and back total 1 1/2 hours, another personal 1 more job then home ahh what a hard day! MAYOR KIND OF LIKE YOUR DETAIL GUYS DRIVING YOUR SORRY ASS AROUND AND YOUR FAMILY WHO USR FREE CPD SERVICES,TAX PAYERS FUEL AND INSURANCE TO CART THE KING AROUND! MASTER YOUR NOT BUT IN JAIL YOU WOULD BE BUNK BUDDY MASTER!
the new police are rangers
power rangers
Maybe Da Mayor hasn't noticed that the CPD has given 6 entrance exams in the last 18 months with minimal sucess. I tell all of my friends to test for the burbs,state,feds,etc. Definitely dont go to the CPD. If there are so many candidates why do they have recruiters desperately attempting to lure candidates? Why did only 20000 take the CPD entrance exam, the city initially said 40,000 would take it? Wakeup,people have figured out that the CPD adn CFD are not the great deal you think they are.
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