TASER Death?
Get ready for the drama:
- "Police killed my baby..." it is just hours after the death of her son and Lula Johnson is still trying to come to grips with what happened. She says her 42-year-old son Jeff had locked himself in his room in the house and refused to come out. So his sister called police. Ms. Johnson says she gave police permission to force their way into the room... but she says she never expected the confrontation that happened next.
"All I know is they throwed his head on the floor and they jumped on him and was raining things on him and they killed my child," said Lula Johnson.
So which is it? The TASER killed him or the "throwed his head on the floor"? Evidently, the TASER had no effect whatsoever on the subject:
The subject, upon being Tased sat down, then jumped up and pulled the Taser prongs away from his body and lunged at the police again," said Asst. Chicago Police Supt. Dean Andrews.
Police say they then used pepper spray and then took him to Bernard hospital, but by the time they arrived he was unconscious. A short time later doctors pronounced him dead. Police say they'll know more about a cause of death after an autopsy Sunday.
"Excited Delirium" or some such similar term is the one we heard used the last time someone died after a TASER application - and that guy had something like two times the lethal dose of crystal meth in his system before he was zapped. In our minds though, "excited delirium" means "City pays out dollars."
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posted by SCC at 3:33 AM
67 Comments:
Per Dr.Pipshultz...He died from Homicide by POlice. He died because he was "put in a compromising position by the police which forced hi to excert himself beyond his capacity, therby, causing his death. That means that the city is liable (and since I am a county worker and don't have to live in this ghetto cespool, you are all fucked!!!!!!!! He he he, I love naked dead bodies...
That did it. No more opening doors to bedrooms. "Your brother don't wanna come out of his room? Nineteen-Paul!"
Was he an honor student?
Dear Dr. Pipschultz. Did you get your medical degree from the same institution that taught you to spell? That's why you are a county worker I presume....
Whatever happened to all the Fentanyl killing folks? Bring it back I say!
TO :8/05/2007 04:45:00 AM
YOUR SUCH A FUCKIN ASSHOLE, UR A PIECE OF SHIT COUNTY WORKER; FUCK YOU, CANT WAIT TILL YOU NEED SOME HELP, YOU'LL RUN TO THE POLICE.. HAHA U LITTLE BITCH. WE DO OUR JOB AND THIS SGT. STEPPED UP AND USED HIS TASER.. THEREFORE IF U HAVE NOTHING NICE TO SAY DONT SAY IT AT ALL DUMBASS.
I think he was an altar boy at St. Sabina.
One less piece of drugged up of shit to deal with on the streets!
Say good bye jagoff!
I hope your high was worth the ride!
You guys on the job nowadays are pussies. Gang tackle him, cuff him and be done with it. Spray? Tazers? Use old fashioned muscles.
L & L will be all over this.
Dr.Al Sharpton will perform the autopsy. Any guess what the outcome will be?
Who gives a shit about a hype who dies fighting with the police??? They should have just electrocuted him on the spot...OFF TOPIC...is the next big fed probe going into the CAPS program??? I have a buddy
retired from the city parks as a boss, now he's a CAPS manager..WTF!
Word is the bloodhounds are sniffing around.....
Does Dean know how to talk on TV? He looked & sounded like an idiot.
Lets see....the family calls the Police because Jeff was going nuts, throwing stuff around and threatening family members (this taken from TV accounts-CLTV Sunday morning). The police respond to that call for help and he goes off on the police. He gets tazed, pulls out the prongs, goes after the police again, gets pepper sprayed, possibly tazed again (different accounts are sketchy on this point) and is taken into custody. Following this call for help, and after the officers take the offender into custody (as requested by the family) he dies from as yet unknown causes, prompting those same family members to say "they killed him in cold blood". Thats correct-the police came to the house for no reason, and of all the family members there, decided to murder an otherwise cool calm and collected Jeff as he sat there studying for his engineering courses.
It's tragic when anyone dies, but WTF, this guy has a history of drug problems (as stated by Grandma) was combative and abusive and the police used a less lethal force option which may or may not have caused his death. So maybe the responding oficers should have wrestled him to the ground, possibly resulting in officers being hurt, and the guy might have suffered heart failure or respiratory failure anyway?
We cannot win.
It's funny, I saw the news this am and viewed the lovely picture the media showed of the now deceased Police fighter who showed no reaction when tased. Look up his latest mugshot...it is quite different from the picture shown on the news. Imagine that.
Anonymous said...
Per Dr.Pipshultz...He died from Homicide by POlice. He died because he was "put in a compromising position by the police which forced hi to excert himself beyond his capacity, therby, causing his death. That means that the city is liable (and since I am a county worker and don't have to live in this ghetto cespool, you are all fucked!!!!!!!! He he he, I love naked dead bodies...
8/05/2007 04:45:00 AM
Mayor Daley is responsible. Cause he a jackass. I can't believe this poor 42 yro got his head throwed and then rained on with all kinda of stuff. Maybe he should have went out and got a job or something and learned to be a responsible productive citizen in society. O wait why should he when everyon votes for all these morons that give everyone everything for free. And its not even the people that get the shit for free that are voting. They don't show up. All those damn liberals. They are running this country into the ground. It is a shame shame shame.
Maybe, just maybe if her "baby" wasn't such a piece of shit in the first place, living at home at 42 years of age, unemployed, and a high school drop out, maybe, just maybe the police would never had to be called in the first place.
If Momma was such a loving parent, and and such a good parent, then maybe she could have gotten her 'baby" to not act the fucking fool and tear up the house in the first place, waranting a visit from the evil doers of the CPD - who were all white, and as we all know, the devils.
But, why look at yourself and your own shortcomings when you can place blame on the white devils, the evil empire, and have the fucking clown King give you money for this "tragedy".
In the ghetto - this was a jack pot! Bling bling - let us go get rims.
i have a way to solve this problem. have a open letter to the community and tell them that the days of the police being your parent is over and its time to be a grown adult and handle your own family problems. grandma! if your 16 year old is being disrespectful and calling you b's and h's for the 1000000000000000 time its time to call the sperm donor away from what ever new bitch hes having sex with and to start being a man and to father his child even though he had a rough night of chilling at the club. if your baby daddy is being disrespectful for the 10000 time,leave him do not call the police be a grown adult and handle your own problems. i have a new concept how about blame the son who was high and out of control for the situation. but in typical city fashion the city will cave and mama will be living large and chilling.....unreal
Perfect story ending. We do not increase the jail population or endure lenghtly court cases. And most important, another asshole off the streets.
What's the maximum age one can attribute to the word "Baby"?
Forever???as long as yo da momma ?
Drugs + Taser = Death
Good riddance & great job, CPD
Per Dr.Pipshultz...He died from Homicide by POlice. He died because he was "put in a compromising position by the police which forced hi to excert himself beyond his capacity, therby, causing his death. That means that the city is liable (and since I am a county worker and don't have to live in this ghetto cespool, you are all fucked!!!!!!!! He he he, I love naked dead bodies...
8/05/2007 04:45:00 AM
I hope that after the Johnson family settles their lawsuit with the city over this bullsh*t case they buy both crappy houses on either side of yours in whatever hillbilly suburb you live in like Worth or Palos Heights, Have a Nice Day :) S-T-R-O-K-E!
We all know it was whatever drugs he had in his system that shut him down. Maybe the Police Dept. shouldn't answer these kinds of calls anymore. They can just send out substance abuse counselors.
DALEY CAN GIVE MORE MILLIONS OUT TO THIS DEAD ASSHOLES FAMILY! WE NEED A NEW CHANT "NO CONTRACT NO PEACE"!
He was "KILDT" by the PoLeece!
Why the hell would the police force their way in "after she gave them permission"?? He's your "baby", YOU control him. Don't call us next time and he won't die, plain and simple. Oh yeah, how would you squeeze any money out of the city then???
"Dear Dr. Pipschultz. Did you get your medical degree from the same institution that taught you to spell? That's why you are a county worker I presume....
8/05/2007 08:02:00 AM"
It's a joke, douche. Here's a buck: go buy yourself a sense of humor.
They can act anyway 42yrs old living at home no job no life on drugs. Three generaltions of englhood dysfunction. Any family problem call the police "government help". When the police do everthing in their power to help this pathetic family and dude dies because of his own behavior its our fault "we killed him". Family gets payed millions but lets face it he only worth hundreds. Its the getto lottery this family played and won.
as Daley says, give them 20000, 40000, $300000.... JACKASS!!!!
I hope they sue and don't get a dime. Wishfull thinking. Or reward him with 10000x what ever he earned Working thus far. A big fat $0. And a bill for the city lawyers.
Just one more reason for the DRT, Drama Response Team, to show up and wail in front of the cameras about "my baby, my baby"!
I am a taser certified instructor...taught by Taser Internatinal in Arizona...there is NO WAY and NEVER has been an occasion where a Taser has killed someone..ALONE...without other factors involved..The Taser itself has not enough ampage or wattage to effectively "kill" anyone. The Taser itself has less ampage/wattage than a transistor radio to power the drvice and it cannot ...I repeat...cannot kill you!! The device is developed to disrupt the muscular system and does not interrupt the cardiovascular system or the central nervous system as it is not made to do so and does not have the power to do so...it is a neuromuscular disruption device and does NOT contain the ampage or wattage to effect the heart or cardiovascular system...it effectively tightens your muscles to the point that it imobilizes you and feels like an intense muscular contraction thus freezing you from movement. But...the lawsuit will proceed...Taser actually has lawyers that they will send out as well as professionals to represent the municipalities in cases of negligence involving their product...because it HAS NEVER KILLED ANYONE and cannot.
county worker is a cook count guard
WE CAN WINNN STOP DOING ANY POLICE WORK IF SOMEONE DOESNT WANT TO FULLY COMPLY WITH YOUR ORDER, JUST WALK AWAY,WRITE A CASE REPORT AND SAY CLEAR SQUAD.
REV AL SHARPTON SHOULD OF RESPONDED TO THE SCENE AND INSTRUCTED THE POLICE IN HOW TO HANDLE THIS A-B-M (ANGRY BLACK MAN) ALSO MY SUGGESTION TO ANY CALL LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE IS TO REFER THE FAMILY TO REV AL SHARPTON FOR COUNSELING AND LOVE
looky here and what not now he done did what? HE GONE!
To : Officers who have homes, families or a life
From : Another officer
Subj.: The political climate
If you value retaining the above, stop acting like it's the eighties or even the nineties. They hate us and want to blame us for every problem in their messed up neighborhoods. Contact the new OPS if you have any doubts about "being the police." Be safe, both physically and civily, and let them destroy themselves. Yes drive by and wave at the white t-shirt wearing asses and think about what we have to lose. Twelve years in 015 and still love the job and the guys. I just want to keep it.
This just in: autopsy results--inconclusive.
What this means; new rims and bling at 81st and green
Did I see on the news that this Jagoff just got releasesd from Prison last week? Some people are born to lose, some have it thrustupon them and some just plain old ask for it!!!
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian, then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
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Great comment. Thanks
LEARN FROM THIS !!!!
DO NOT DRIVE FAST TO ANY JOB UNLESS SOMEONE IS ACTUALLY KILLING ONE OF YOUR VERY OWN FAMILY MEMBERS!! IF YOU GET IN AN ACCIDENT ON THE WAY YOU ARE SCREWED AND THE MEDIA WILL HANG YOU OUT TO DRY. YOUR LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN GETTING TO A DOMESTIC DISTURBANCE CALL AND THE TASER INCIDENT SHOWS THAT WE DID OUR JOB AND WE ARE GETTING SCREWED FOR IT(LAWSUITS, BAD PRESS, ETC..) GET HOME SAFE AND SOUND AND FUCK THE REST OF THE ANIMALS WE LOOK AFTER.
I suggest we start using waivers whenever citizens want the police to handle a mental,high, or drunk family member. Here mam sign on the line, if your family member decides to fight the police and gets hurt or dies in the process of being restrained, you get a big fat zero if either of the mentioned occurs.
Anonymous said...
I got news for those of you who think that only 008, 016 and 022 are the "livable" parts of the City. 021, parts of 009,006, 003, 002, 001, 013, 014, parts of 015 (yes,015), 017, parts of 018, parts of 019, 020 and 024 are all "LIVABLE." Now, if you're one of those cops that doesn't feel comfortable residing around some people who may not be white, or Christian, then you have other issues that have NOTHING to do with residency.
And yes, I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
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YEa if you want to live next to the shit you lock up!
Years ago, a copper's sister died "in custody"; he wanted to know how it came about..police called to house where sister is acting nuts in front of mom & dad..sis was witness to criminal case where boyfriend robbed and murdered a guy fishing at a park district lagoon...sgt of police told mom/pop..".if we have to remove her by force, my men will do what they have to do..." they had to remove her by force...she died right in the emergency room of a hospital. I had to investigate this sorry fucking mess...cops did NOTHING wrong...as with the taser death, all the police did was restrain a fuckin nut...medical examiner made it a homicide at police hands...WTF!!!!
brothers and sisters on the job...all i can say is we joke about sad stuff that happens , but when you have to do bad stuff;i.e. nut jobs, etc.. get SUPERVISION...these assholes are paid 45 extra a day to decide what police should do...fuck them..let THEM make the call and let THEM answer for it down the road....
Why does every bedroom door on the west side have a lock ?
ALL YOU ASSHOLE STATE'S ATTORNEYS read this. we patrol the shit...
you're afraid to walk in....we walk in the slime you read about..and then you come down on us....REMEMBER...WE ARE THE LAST RESPONSE.....
DOESNT SOUND AS IF THE POLICE WERE NEEDED ON THIS....THE CALL TAKER SHOULD OF SEEN THAT..........................BUT THE OLD PHRASE...." YOU GOT ONE PROBLEM AND YOU CALL THE POLICE NOW YOU HAVE TWO PROBLEMS....."
Another TASER failure,what a crappy product.
Anonymous said...
You guys on the job nowadays are pussies.
8/05/2007 08:19:00 AM
BINGO!!
Anonymous said...
I am a taser certified instructor...taught by Taser Internatinal in Arizona...there is NO WAY and NEVER has been an occasion where a Taser has killed someone..ALONE...without other factors involved..The Taser itself has not enough ampage or wattage to effectively "kill" anyone. The Taser itself has less ampage/wattage than a transistor radio to power the drvice and it cannot ...I repeat...cannot kill you!! The device is developed to disrupt the muscular system and does not interrupt the cardiovascular system or the central nervous system as it is not made to do so and does not have the power to do so...it is a neuromuscular disruption device and does NOT contain the ampage or wattage to effect the heart or cardiovascular system...it effectively tightens your muscles to the point that it imobilizes you and feels like an intense muscular contraction thus freezing you from movement. But...the lawsuit will proceed...Taser actually has lawyers that they will send out as well as professionals to represent the municipalities in cases of negligence involving their product...because it HAS NEVER KILLED ANYONE and cannot.
8/05/2007 06:32:00 PM
Isn't the muscle a heart??
"it effectively tightens your muscles to the point that it imobilizes you and feels like an intense muscular contraction thus freezing you from movement."
Like your heart???
Nice spewing of TASERS BS.Bring back the wood shampoo.
the evil doers of the CPD - who were all white, and as we all know, the devils.
I thought we were called "The Finest" ....are we now known as the "White Devils" ???
Dean was a blubbering idiot on the news. Thats what happens when you get promoted when you were never the police. Maybe its the alternative lifesyle thing but they just keep promoting this moron. Already screwed up Area 5 but lets make him a street deputy. Thats really smart!!!
The family will sue and the dept/city will settle for big money. No Taser lawyers will be needed for this one. Family member of deceased is CPD Sgt,but at least she hasn't been on tv slamming us.
I have seen white residents in each of the Districts mentioned above.
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The only white people hanging around in the 015th district are total bust out, worthless, parasites living off the government and the suburbanites buying dope. The island doesn't count either.
Every copper take note. The first week of the month is check time. The families of mentals always call during that time to get rid of the mental. That way the check can be spent without interference from the mental. Copper,"did he take his medication?" Family,"he won't take it." Sgt.,"transport him to Mt. Sinai." No mental,have peace!!!
THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT HIM WHEN HE WAS ALIVE (NO MENTAL HELP, DRUG PROBLEM ETC), BUT NOW THAT HE'S GONE, HE'S WORTH SOME MONEY, NOW EVERYONE CARES, HE'S WAS EVERYONE'S BABY - WITH A BRIGHT FUTURE THAT WAS SNUFFED OUT BY THE CHICAGO POLICE......SAD WORLD WE LIVE IN!!
another million dollar lawsuit the city will lose to...either will kill someone or we dont do our job...either way were phucked...
Yep, just like the Lemon brothers in 025. Momma calls after the brothers check shows up. It was like clock work. One time we went in after momma called, the brother was sleeping, we refused to take him.
The 5 millon dollar man.
Oh no!The police killed another man in cold blood. My former honor student who turned to crack and heron. Get Al Sharpton here right away. The poleece kilt that boy for no reason. Give me a fucking break. Rat ass piece of shit.
YOU SHOULD TEACH AT THE ACADEMY BRILLIANT
PHUKET is NOT just an island resort in Thailand.
FUCK IT!
it effectively tightens your muscles to the point that it imobilizes you and feels like an intense muscular contraction thus freezing you from movement."
Like your heart???
Nice spewing of TASERS BS.Bring back the wood shampoo.
No, not like your heart, if your heart can take shocks from a defibulator at 500,000 volts, it can certainly withstand 50,000 for 5 seconds at a crack, the guy is right, it's not the taser. The taser is the best thing to come along for us in a long time, yes once in a while you get a dud cartridge or they are able to pull out a prong if they get a chance but 99 % of the time it works great; Taser is right, it has never lost a case yet....
brothers and sisters on the job...all i can say is we joke about sad stuff that happens , but when you have to do bad stuff;i.e. nut jobs, etc.. get SUPERVISION...these assholes are paid 45 extra a day to decide what police should do...fuck them..let THEM make the call and let THEM answer for it down the road....
Spoken like a true pussy, call the Sgt. let him make my decisions, the new police department we have is a joke with all the pussies who think like this, oh and sorry you didn't pass the Sgts. test....
From the Sun-times:
"But his mother said police used excessive force and humiliated her son by taking him out of the home naked. She said her son was physically and mentally disabled, and a drug abuser."
Let me get this straight, we're supposed to dress these folks too?
Was he an honor student?
I think he was an altar boy at St. Sabina.
yes to both accounts anf fr phlerger will be providing his 11 yo picture
oh wait maybe THAT picture might get him in trouble
i am sorry he died, but i know im not as sorry as the officers on scene...im sorry for a family that needed to call for help for a situation they were unable to handle....BUT iam even sorrier for the men and or women who came to help and wound up being assaulted verbaly through the various media outlets..there was not one media comment to the effect that tha officers did what they could but it didnt go the way they intended either...it is hard to have compassion for the people who need such help and refuse to give assistance to those who rush to their aid..no matter what that is
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