Sunday, September 16, 2007

Inventory Order

As of 12:01 this morning (approximately two and half hours ago), a new system of rules came into being across the entire state of Illinois. We have been told that this is NOT a Chicago issue. It is a direct result of the Illinois Department of Corrections cracking down on various municipalities and county organizations (Cook County especially) who aren't following standard rules.

All persons taken into custody will be allowed only the following items in their "Prisoner Property" bags:
  • under $500 cash
  • one ring (wedding band type) with no stone
  • one government issued ID
  • prescription eye glasses
  • prescription medications
  • shoelaces and belts
  • any court papers or inventory slips
  • keys
That's it. No wallets, no purses, no cell phones, no extra jewelry, no coats, no extra clothes, nothing except what's listed. This isn't going to be a burden on lockups, but it's going to be a hassle for officers who lock up someone with a wallet full of money and credit cards and an extra necklace or two. The way the order reads, the bulk storage areas in each district are going to be used as a temporary holding area until someone can Form 54 property back and E&RPS is going to make pick ups every 4 days or so.

This thing has "clusterfuck" written all over in letters 4 feet high with flashing neon lights all around. Can anyone imagine the CR's and Theft of Lost/Mislaid Property reports that are going to be generated? The mind boggles.

UPDATE: List updated to include keys, coats don't have to be inventoried, other info trickling in. Comments advocating illegal actions against prisoner's property deleted.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was already a huge cluster fuck tonight! Watch the numbers drop. If someone has too much property with them they get a play. If you see a good stop, but the person has too much property with them or on them, just keep on driving.

They just keep on sending us messages "don't do anything" Policing is becoming harder and harder.

9/16/2007 02:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when do we follow "standard rules"?

9/16/2007 04:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is great,another reason to create an inside position, "bulk storage officer".

Ok, here's a scenario. I know it's hard to believe,but our cutting edge technology,I heard, sometimes goes kaput,acabado,done stopped working.
Sooo, if or when a prisoner,sorry, med-student,has to inventory his/her/it's property,and upon making bond,he ax for his property back,and our "leading the modern world technology" is taking a dump,what do we tell him/her/it?

How does we complete da field turn over? Inquiring minds gots to know.

9/16/2007 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

will our department be closed down by the state if we don't comply?

9/16/2007 05:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

annnd...what if.....

a district doesn't have a female or male lock-up? Does we inventory the property at the arresting district or does we inventory the property at da place of detentiono?

Annnd if the prisoner is wanted by another jurisdiction and we inventory his/her/it's property in Sheekago,(garden in the park,home of the bean),now,the med-student has to travel back to our garden city to retrieve his/her/your choice,belongings.

9/16/2007 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I plan to make a copy of the inventory and have the mope or the mopess sign same. Cover ur ass and keep the signed slipes in your locker. When the C. R # comes down you have thier signiture agreeing on inventoried property! Suburbs have been doing it that way for years. RELAX and enjoy the down time. No I'm not a dog but you can't change the policy. C.C.S.D. made the change and we have to go along with it, along with every department that send people to county. Be safe and as always, fuck the F.O.P!

9/16/2007 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone cite the ILCS that mandates we do this? I can't find anything in the ILCS, under Chaps 55, Counties, or 730, Corrections. I'm calling bullshit on this one. Some ass clown came up with this.

9/16/2007 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have your arrestee's call home or friends and have them come get their shit............they would probably rather do that anyway than turn their shit over to us...........who wants to inventory their nasty shit anyway.............

9/16/2007 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this shit is fucking stupid

9/16/2007 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its simple...DONT MAKE AN ARREST!

9/16/2007 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great......between computer arrest,no lock up and now this,the simple 15 min. misdemeanor arrest now keeps me in the station for hours.

9/16/2007 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic, but....congrats, SCC! (the article in the Daily Southtown re: your blog....)

9/16/2007 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the fuck...

9/16/2007 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous The Last Straw said...

A gold star addressed our roll call yesterday, and was pretty straight forward with us about this order. He said he could forsee the scenario of an offender being locked up with a vehicle and the property 'ending up' in said vehicle. Of course he forgot to mention that personal property in a vehicle is supposed to be inventoried by G.O. too.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Ah well, they don't want us to work, they don't want us to work. Whatchagonnado?

Anyone who does more than is neccessary anymore needs to have their heads examined.

9/16/2007 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no black hoodies ? No black puffy coats??

9/16/2007 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This si ridiculous. More fucking bullshit to inventory and get accused of taking by ghetto thugs. Obviously the fucks that came up with this have no regard for the CPD. We are the ones taking the hit here because we do the most arrests and deal with the most thugs.

9/16/2007 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IM GLAD I ONLY HAVE 4 MORE YEARS TO GO ON THIS JOB!

9/16/2007 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It was already a huge cluster fuck tonight! Watch the numbers drop. If someone has too much property with them they get a play. If you see a good stop, but the person has too much property with them or on them, just keep on driving.

They just keep on sending us messages "don't do anything" Policing is becoming harder and harder.

9/16/2007 02:48:00 AM

Exactly the point don't do anything how much more writing on the wall do we need! Another boneheaded idea! "sorry you have to much shit your free", Now joe will start to have more shit on him and know that he can walk away! I AM GOING INTO THE BIG POCKET JEANS THAT HANG OFF THE ASS, MORE STORAGE SPACE TO DEFEAT THE POLICE!

9/16/2007 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Already saw a problem last night. saw officers lock up dude and then give his "extra stuff" to his homie who wasn't under arrest - wait til dude complains and CR# is generated.............

9/16/2007 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are 8 things they can keep, you forgot keys. Also don't let the desk dogs bs you into thinking thats its your respponsibility to do a "form 54" to return the peropert back to the arrestee. The order is clear, "a field turnover (electronic form 54) will be completed by the desk personnel and authorized by the watch commander" DO NOT let the desk call you back in when your arrestee gets his I-Bond 2 hours after you go back on the street to do it...THEY DO IT!!!

9/16/2007 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say:
Let the desk crew deal with it - that is in between talking on the phone, eating, playing on the 'puter, abusing citizens wandering in looking for service and ignoring the dispatchers pleading that a copy of the line-up be faxed over.
A less functional group of imitation police don't come to mind.
I've stood at desks waiting to log in prisoners often enough to have these morons number.

9/16/2007 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

have not read order but if it is marked "prisoner's property" there is no hold on it, no form 54. i might be wrong though.

9/16/2007 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who gives a shit, it takes 3 more minutes. Or do like me, don't lock anyone up.

9/16/2007 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit whining just inventory everyones stuff who gives a shit?

9/16/2007 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the result of the IDOC not taking the property from the county. 10,000 inmates in county jail equal tons of property there stuck with. Same rule applies to all 120 police departments in cook county and the Sheriff's PD.

9/16/2007 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

remember boys and girls jewelry has to be on a seperate inventory so that means 2 inventories for each prisoner

9/16/2007 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sounds like more no cars available
in station doin an inventory

9/16/2007 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I haven't been to work yet today, but will we just be able to bag up all their shit and label it as "misc. property" and inventory it with one number or is it going to be separate bags for each type of item?

9/16/2007 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i can see why the county and now the city does this. i can only imagine the amount of property that comes up 'lost'. but now, a simple arrest will take much longer. will the districts have enough inventory bags and envelopes? i feel sorry for the elite tact team. i cant wait til they do their next edge mission or reverse when they lock up 20 people and now have to spend a lot of extra time inventorying property hahahahahahahaha

9/16/2007 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh My God! Yes it will be a total cluster fuck. Yet another thing to slow the process up of making an arrest. The good ole days of knocking out an arrest is long over. Now it averages about 2hrs + and now even longer, now that I have to inventory everything under the sun on top of the inventories I already have for the arrest.

Their is no room in the so called "bulk storage room" now, so where the fuck is all this shit going to be put.

STILL NO CONTRACT!

STILL NO MANPOWER ON THE STREET!

NEWS MEDIA AND MAYOR DICK DALEY STILL SUCK!

9/16/2007 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If someone has over $500 inventory every dollar. W/c in roll call the other day stated inventory everything over $500 but they could go in with less than $500.

Again anytime you lock someone up inventory all their money. f them

9/16/2007 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Since when do we follow "standard rules"?

9/16/2007 04:46:00 AM

Watch that rule get amended with something like "does not apply to municipalities with populations over 2 million"?
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How long will it now take to process an arrestee with prperty from start to finish? What if that person is a Juv?

But we are a santuary city! since when do we listen to a higher authorities? The empire of Chicago will do what it wants.

9/16/2007 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IDOC has no authority over CPD, CCSP, or any other entity. They have authority over THEIR own prisoners, Period!

9/16/2007 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clusterfuck you say? That doesn't even BEGIN to describe this new order. Once again another new order or policy written by a downtown empty holster M/F'r who has no idea what we have to deal with in the districts and probably could care less. Just another example of headquarters being completely out of touch with reality.

9/16/2007 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our bulk storage in ___ is all ready to the ceiling.( ERPS are you there ?) We have unsecured property laid out in our garage. This is because County had too many complaints allegedly. My answer "Stop hiring gang bangers". I smell lawsuit. We have had illegals hired to clean up our building who are now on the run. We have clean up personnel, and any number of workers in and out of every area of the station.. people with no ID just walking around. Who may I ask is going to take the rap when 1 of my prisoners property goes astray laying in an alleged secure area that is not secure. Hell our CPD bikes have walked away... but in all fairness they were kept behind a secure door that was broken for 6 months and was wide open. This department is the most disorganized, wasteful organization on the planet. Hell the fire inspector was turned away because they " whomever that is" were not ready for the inspection and Yep you guessed it he was told to call and make an appointment. Tons of paper stacks everywhere and again there is the "bulk storage area filled up with everything you can imagine". Our BIG BOSSES NEED TO COME WORK IN A DISTRICT FOR A MONTH EACH to see what the hell is going on... work every job description and then tell us how greatful we should be. Until that happens I will always turn a Respectful deaf ear to the big money makers aka our bosses.

9/16/2007 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok, here's a simple solution. allow prisoners to hang on to wallets, cash, anything that they cannot hang themselves with. Or, install a foot locker INSIDE lockup...allows lockup keepers to inventory this junk, and in a spot where prisoners can see their valuables locked up to boot...when they get out, the can sign their stuff back right out of the clink...

9/16/2007 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS GOINING TO BE A MESS. SAY YOU GOT A GUY WITH A GUN & DOPE
THATS 2 INVENTORIES NOW HE HAS 500$ ON HIM AND 3 DIAMOND RINGS AND A WALLET AND CELL PHONE
THATS 3 DIFFERENT INVENTORIES

GRAND TOTAL 5 INVENTORIES !!
YOU HAVE TO INVENTORY THE JEWERLY AND MONEY SEPERATE FROM ANYTHING ELSE

9/16/2007 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger sharky said...

Form 54's are done only when the property is already down at ERPS. Otherwise, it is a Field turnover, and the prisoner goes directly to the Desk Sgt to get his stuff back.

9/16/2007 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MORE BULLSHIT !!!!

9/16/2007 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous DC in five said...

Not to worry, We are home rule. King Richie will tell the state to fuck them selves.

This has been the Policy in the 005th Dist for years now on the second watch.

That mental midgit Cpt. White does not even want the officers to put the criminals in the lock up let alone their property.

9/16/2007 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's been rough the first day, but we got through it! I expect things will run more smoothly tomorrow. But we found out that ONLY THE WATCH COMMANDER can approve a return of property, not the desk Sgt., as was touted a while ago by the Deputy Supt. of Patrol. I don't see W/C's wanting to be tied up too often in this bullshit...some changes and tweaks will have to be done, and soon.

9/16/2007 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK THE COUNTY!STOP WRITING AND ISSUING "I" BONDS AND SEND EVERY PRISONER TO COURT! ALL TRAFFIC AND MISDEMEANORS SEND TO BOND COURT!FLOOD THE JAIL WITH PRISONERS WHERE THEY BELONG!SEE HOW LONG THE INVENTORY B.S WILL LAST THEN.FREE UP DESK DOLLIES FROM WRITING "I" BONDS AND PUT THEM ON THE STREET WHERE THEY BELONG.

9/16/2007 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No cell phones, no more than $500....What about their guns?

9/16/2007 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not really anything new, however it is being done becaus the county won't take any of their stuff anymore.
Previously, this was to be done by the lockup keeper, now it has to be done by the field arresting officer, just another hour or more added on to the processing time....

9/16/2007 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a district doesn't have a female or male lock-up? Does we inventory the property at the arresting district or does we inventory the property at da place of detentiono?

Annnd if the prisoner is wanted by another jurisdiction and we inventory his/her/it's property in Sheekago,(garden in the park,home of the bean),now,the med-student has to travel back to our garden city to retrieve his/her/your choice,belongings.

9/16/2007 05:31:00 AM

1. arresting district
2. who cares

9/16/2007 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone cite the ILCS that mandates we do this? I can't find anything in the ILCS, under Chaps 55, Counties, or 730, Corrections. I'm calling bullshit on this one. Some ass clown came up with this.

Whats new about it? just that the arresting officer has to do it. Just because the lockup keepers never did it, and traditionally did not follow the order (over the last 30 years and I am sure more)to make sure it gets done, the beat / arresting officer has to do it, and the desk sgt. can do the field turnover....
lot of make work

9/16/2007 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO NOT let the desk call you back in when your arrestee gets his I-Bond 2 hours after you go back on the street to do it...THEY DO IT!!!

9/16/2007 10:56:00 AM

If you are there, you can do it, if you are gone, the desk sgt. will

9/16/2007 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I plan to make a copy of the inventory and have the mope or the mopess sign same. Cover ur ass and keep the signed slipes in your locker. When the C. R # comes down you have thier signiture agreeing on inventoried property! Suburbs have been doing it that way for years. RELAX and enjoy the down time. No I'm not a dog but you can't change the policy. C.C.S.D. made the change and we have to go along with it, along with every department that send people to county.

9/16/2007 06:12:00 AM

In all seriousness, the above advice is right on the money. They should have to sign when we inventory property as well as when it's released, other wise, well..you figure it out. This is just insanity.

Will somebody, anybody, downtown, puleeze put a stop to this. We don't have cars as it is, now a car will be down forever.

ALSO WHAT DO WE DO FOR MASS ARRESTS?

Presently the money safe is in view;the drug drop is in view;the inventory closet is in view; bulk storage, in most cases is not in view. It doesn't take a med student to figure out what's going to happen.

9/16/2007 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God, I have a nice cozy desk job at HQ.

9/16/2007 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS SUCKS. So, the Cook County guys can't stop stealing from theses assholes and now we have to do four hours of inventories, NICE.

Helpful hintfor the seperate inventories.

1. after the first inventory is complete,approved, do a search on that inventory.
2. When you bring it up off the search, click on that inventory. When you click on it, the inventory will come up and a copy button is shown on the top of the screen.
3. Click the copy button and a new item selection will come up. Enter the item and hit save/submit and your done with a new seperate inventory.

Saves the headache of re-entering everything. But I rather have the old inventory books back for this shit. My quess is that alot of assholes friends are going tobe holding Joes shit, when he gets locked up.

Be careful and take care of each other out there, we don't have anyone else out there, watching our backs!

9/16/2007 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 9/16/2007 07:55:00 PM.....

The County Guys are not stealing anything. The storage is gone. They have to follow the state guidelines for property in regards to convicted felons being sent to IDOC. Besides, after SOS, TRU and the lock up keeper get their hands on the stuff there is nothing left for them to steal. Ask the keepers from area 3 with the CR # they got a few days ago.

Everyone is quick to blame everyone else. This is a job. Nothing more. We are paid by the hour right?????? Kill 'em where it hurts. $$$$$$$ 15 minutes a day, just 15 minutes a day....it all adds up.

Stop whining and actually look at the circumstances surrounding orders. Its a classic case of City / County knee jerk reaction to a situation that was created long before most of us even thought about taking the exam.

It will work itself out with some time.

Besides the State won't get away for this for long. As I see it, once you convict a clown, all his shit should go with him. The state should just destroy the shit that can't or wont b picked up by the "community saint's" family or homies within 90 days.

But what do I know......Thanks for listening.

The above is my opinion, and thats all it is. I am not attacking anyone in any form what so ever. Remember, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

Fraternally, I bid you peace.

9/16/2007 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about this scenario........

You lock up someone for theft with evidence recovered.
You find a joint on his person.
He has two nipple rings.
He has a ragged wallet with $501.00 inside
According to the order....
[emphasis added] According to the order.......

(5) seperate inventories!!!!!!!
1) Case evidence
2) Dope
3) Jewelry
4) $1.00 USC [everything OVER $500.00]
5) Arrestees personal property [wallet]

And then by the time you fill out the time due slip** and all the inventories and paperwork, dude is getting his I-Bond!

**= Check the CA$H BOX!!!

9/16/2007 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was never a problem at SOS

9/16/2007 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Along with corruption, Bureaucracy also breeds inefficiency and this is a prime example

9/16/2007 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
remember boys and girls jewelry has to be on a seperate inventory so that means 2 inventories for each prisoner

9/16/2007 12:32:00 PM

-----------------------------
money is separate too so possibly 3

9/17/2007 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wrote the comment at 9/16/2007 10:15:00 PM. I would like to retract the statement about the lockup keepers in area 3. I was mis informed. The cr # was issued to lockup keepers at a different location. Please excuse the mistake. Thanks in advance.

9/17/2007 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don' forget that the city is ALWAYS short on paying their bills.
That means that we are ALWAYS short on supplies -- like those blue bags.

What about some drunk or hype that doesn't remember where he got locked up???? I've seen rap sheets with 300+ cb#'s.

And I would like to see ANY unit in the city that has enough working computers & printers to actually do all this computer work.

We have more arrests citywide in one day than the rest of the state has in a month.

There will be an unending series of problems, I think that it will be a new spot on the watch -- 'Inventory Control Officer'

9/17/2007 02:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!

UNCLE!

We are sorry!!

No more orders that affect street cops writen by house mice that never stepped foot one on the street.

Please
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9/17/2007 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I HAVE BEEN DONE WORKING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND NOW I AM FOR SURE DONE! SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO BEG ME TO ARREST THEM AND LEAVE ME WITH NO WAY OUT WTF! THEY HAVE TOLD US FOR YEARS THAT THEY WANTED US TO DO NOTHING SO LET'S OBEY AND DO NOTHING! FUCK THEM!

9/17/2007 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you know what do you guys care how many inventories an arrest will take. IT'S YOUR JOB. You are getting paid no matter if there is one inventory or 100>.

9/17/2007 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

holy shit are you guys a bunch of little girls. IT'S (1) MORE INVENTORY TO DO Oh my God just do it . Be glad we dont have the books anymore. with the new system you can copy everything from the orig. inventory......... go to work and do your job

9/17/2007 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what about the building to store the millions of property bags.its gonna have to be as big as the merchandise mart.and than the city will have to man it with hundreds of house mouses! toooooooooooooooooooo funny! again this city is a friggin JOKE!

9/17/2007 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

REPLY TO: 9/16/2007 11:00:00 AM

To the obviously ignorant person with no time on the job:

The desk crew has more time on the job than you have crying to your mommy.

Maybe they are the smart one’s that have been there, done that, and now inside looking at your dumb ass crying about what they are doing.

Waiting in line to log a prisoner in….how many times have you gotten your ass chewed out for forgetting that.

Stop worrying about what other coppers are doing and do your job. I am sure the desk crew has helped your silly ass more than you can count stomping your foot.

The new procedure is everyones problem to solve and adapt as a team.

9/17/2007 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why have a dept?

4 hrs to process an arrest.

In the age of tech it should be a half hr. Even if you want to work the new age of tech has put a slow onto police work.

so much for technology.

9/17/2007 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/16/2007 03:54:00 PM

BIG BOSSES NEED TO COME WORK IN A DISTRICT FOR A MONTH EACH to see what the hell is going on...


You're exactly right. When I came on 25 years ago you'd get some asshole who'd act the fool and John Citizen wanted him locked up. There was a pre-printed Disorderly Conduct complaint where you'd just fill out the arrestee's name and check the appropriate box to fit the charge/offense. If you wanted, you could call for the wagon and, while waiting for it's arrival, you could grab an arrest report, fill in the shaded portion, a brief but concise narrative and hand him over to the wagon crew. You could stay on the street to handle jobs.

Fast forward to today.... You grab someone for the same disorderly conduct charge. Supreme Court says pre-printed complaint is unconstitutional. Not so big a deal. Write or type out a narrative (which in many cases is IDENTICAL to the wording on the old pre-printed one) and take Sally or Sammy into the greystone motel.

Automated Arrest is anything but automated. Between unnecessary pull-down boxes and having to find the EXACT way to enter the information, it can be very frustrating. When entering automobile info, if you happen to have an unusual or obscure vehicle model, the program almost fights you and you have to sometimes put in either vague or inaccurate information.

Then they want you to list every bump, dimple, mole, tattoo, piercing, prosthesis or abnormality on your prisoner. Can you say "Pissed off lockup crew?" Now they've gotta photograph all of it.

Finally you've gotta play the "what will the desk sergeant/watch commander use as an excuse for making me re-do the whole thing?" game. I work the 3rd watch. Our 1st watch desk sgt hates the 3rd watch and loves to officiously pour over the arrest reports like HE's going to have to prosecute the case.

I was always taught that the narrative of an arrest report is to state the probable cause ONLY in order to effect an arrest. Each desk sgt or W/C now establishes his/her own kingdom and want you to add all sorts of shit that DOESN'T belong in an arrest report. Remember, the STORY goes in the case report, the PROBABLE CAUSE goes into the arrest report.

Now this inventory nonsense. Put all of his shit into a bag, seal it in front of asshole and label it as "prisoners property" and you're done. If the bag gets opened after it hits the lockup, it's out of your hands.

GOD FORBID you have a juvenile arrest or someone that has to go to Central Detention. We use that ridiculous JISC Center to process our juveniles. I can't imagine a more poorly-run facility. As soon as you walk in the door they want you to do an "intake report" which repeats almost EVERYTHING you've entered into the arrest report. A classic example of DOUBLE WORK. I've never seen any General Order or directive that mentions this report. Some desk jockey came up with this to make it look like they're really doing something. They ask you over and over if you've contacted a parent or family member, even though they have a "secure" facility. If we made a juvenile pinch in the past, we'd hand him over to the desk sgt and he'd sit Little Tyrone behind the desk in a corner and tell him to shut up.

Central D is a nightmare. Lazy gets a new definition here. Walk in with a prisoner and about 5 or 6 pairs of eyes look up from the newspaper, TV, smut book, nap, etc to see what you've got. Then it's a flurry of inactivity as they go right back to fucking off. If you have a female, some 2-stooler comes shuffling to the cell door and asks "are you sick? are you injured? have you ever attempted suicide" over and over until the arrestee gets it and feigns the cramp, ache whatever that will ensure she won't hafta spend any time on a cold cell bed but a nice, cozy hospital bed at Northwestern or Mercy.

All of the above conditions exist because BOSSES DON'T MAKE ARRESTS. If Dana, Phil, Terry, Matt or any Supt ever stood at the JISC or Central D and saw the colossal waste of time, heads would roll. Captains, Lts and Sgts forget what it was like to be the po-leese and lend no sympathy when you try to tell them how fucked up the entire arrest procedure is. And, miraculously, people still get arrested and even MORE miraculously, actually are convicted!

The fact that people get arrested in this City has nothing to do with some sort of "systemic efficiency" of the CPD but because of individual efforts by individual policemen; hard working men and women who actually are willing to suffer through all of the BS an arrest entails. How long would any of this nonsense exist if Chiczewski, Risley, Williams etc had to make out unnecessarily long-winded arrest reports, play the back-and-forth Desk Sgt/Watch Commander ping-pong game, spend all kinds of time with E-Track and then bring them to either JISC or Central D?

It's said that we're in an "80/20" game. 80% of the work is done by 20% of the Dept. I see great, courageous cops every day working hard to make substantive arrests but most guys and gals are so overwhelmed by the bureaucratic bullshit that more and more they're looking the other way. God bless the CPD!

9/17/2007 11:09:00 AM  
Blogger CJN said...

I love it. We are told what goes into a prisoner property bag but don't have any to fill. I've been using the blue property bags since we ran out of the red ones in the begining of the summer. Soon we'll have to use the green narcotic bags for prisoners.

9/17/2007 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What makes the situation even better, this Department doesn't have the medium sized inventory bags. LOL

9/17/2007 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger CJN said...

Anonymous said...
"Who gives a shit, it takes 3 more minutes. Or do like me, don't lock anyone up."

3 minutes??? When was the last time you did an inventory? We have a thing called ETrack, no more inventory books.

9/17/2007 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

holy shit are you guys a bunch of little girls. IT'S (1) MORE INVENTORY TO DO Oh my God just do it . Be glad we dont have the books anymore. with the new system you can copy everything from the orig. inventory......... go to work and do your job

9/17/2007 09:52:00 AM

You can log out of the internet and leave your cubicle,it's time to go home to your mommy.

9/17/2007 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To whomever wrote "I love it. We are told what goes into a prisoner property bag but don't have any to fill. I've been using the blue property bags since we ran out of the red ones in the begining of the summer. Soon we'll have to use the green narcotic bags for prisoners."

See your front office. They are the ones that have to get up off their asses and go to equipment and supply. Or would that interfer with shopping and their manicure?

9/17/2007 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's real simple tell the arrestee that they need someone to leave their property with or you've got to inventory it and there's no telling when they'll get it back. They immediately come up with somebody to take it. Tried it in 003 and of the 5 arrests made only had 1 inventory for their crap. By the way the county was sued and lost thats why they won't take anymore property.

9/17/2007 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see W/C's wanting to be tied up too often in this bullshit...some changes and tweaks will have to be done, and soon.


It is one click of a button for the WC, if they can't handle that, why don't they give up that Captain's pay and go back to LT?

9/17/2007 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happens when u gotta lock up one of these "homeless" fleabags who carries every possession he has in 5/6 plastic bags?

9/17/2007 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, ummm,......anybody got any of those red or blue or hell I'll even take green, bags? There aren't enough for the 1 inventory, let alone 1+.......guess maybe the custodian can give me some trash bags.......anybody gotta marker?

9/17/2007 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/17/07---11:09
You nailed it on the head. Good post.

9/18/2007 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic:

Tickets are available for a White Sox outing on 27 Sept 2007. For $50.00 you could attend the game after an all you could eat and drink in the Patio Party Room at the stadium.

Call Detectives Colby or Rolston at Area One Detective Division.

9/18/2007 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't ask the front office for new bags. Don't have any. Company who makes them hasn't been paid by the city.

9/18/2007 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats what happens when you have uneducated mopes running the department. They can't even come up with an ounce of common sense. Inventory items on 3 to 4 different inventories for a guy thats going to get out in 2 hours. He will be clear and ibonded before the inventories are even approved. NOTHING SUPRISES ME ANYMORE WITH THIS JOB. JUST KEEP PAYING ME.

9/18/2007 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more dumb ass bosses. Lets see who can come up with the dumbest order and reason for it. There can be a prize for that boss. Maybe a statue of a Jack asses Ass.

9/19/2007 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a member of a South Suburban police agency, we are also suffering from this directive. Property storage is the problem, however, I-Bonds are looking better everyday!

9/19/2007 04:32:00 PM  

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