Aldercreatures Above the Law?
Confirm? Deny?
- True story! On Friday, a 023 district 2nd watch officer wrote Alderman Tom Tunney a traffic ticket for using his cellphone while driving. The officer is a softball, but I applaud his zero tolerance enforcement. Commander 023 received notice of this and demanded that the Alderman's DL be returned to his residence. Cmdr. Yami was very upset and this officer will now be shipped to midnights due to enforcing the law against a connected person.
Hmmm.
UPDATE: Thought to be a tall tale. You may use this as an open post to abuse aldercreature Dixon who, as we confirmed, took an officer off of Beat 1014 against the wishes of the community for political payback.
UPDATE: Thought to be a tall tale. You may use this as an open post to abuse aldercreature Dixon who, as we confirmed, took an officer off of Beat 1014 against the wishes of the community for political payback.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
149 Comments:
I love it when a plan comes together. All people seem to complain about in the Sun-Times are people talking on the cell phone and the police not writing any tickets. Now the police write a violator and the violator uses his clout to get out of the ticket. Main stream media does not pick to run with the story, because it obviously puts the politician in a bad light and presents the police as doing his job. No news in that. The city that works and is clout free, Daley told us so.
Way to go! Did the aldercreature vote affirmative on the passage of this ordinance?
If so then that is just to funny!
Now that's a story you won't see on the front page of the Times. Maybe next time I get a ticket I can call Tom Tunney and he can get MY license back for me.
I work in 023 and actually here is how it went down. The officer wrote the Alderman a ticket for using his cell phone. The alderman never dropped his name or title to get out of the ticket (a practice I am very sure EVERY CPD cop practices). He merely stated he needed his license and wished to post a cash bond. The officer obliged and once he got to the desk he was informed who he had written. The Alderman was not upset, and the officer was a bit embarrassed that he "jeopardized his current position." The Alderman posted his bond and walked away with his license. "Yami" was not even in the building. No one was besides themselves as SCC has stated. No one has been threatened of losing his or her current watch. This is a typical media exageration(yes SCC, you ARE the media) and will, in due time, be proven FALSE as I was standing not 10 feet away from the entire interaction. In fact, most in 023 enjoyed the comic relief (including the alderman). So, yes, SCC, you ARE typical media. Attempting to brew up a firestorm makes you no different from CNN, NBC, ABC or even the reverends! No one was angry as you insist. No one is at risk at going to mids. But being that you know that is the biggest reaction you can drum up from this crowd, I guess you are just following suit. PO H will be just fine and not because of you. But rather because eventhough city officials, and even bosses get undue slander at the hands of SCC, in the real world things really do just work out. Get a life and atleast TRY to be honest.
and, so the Dept. is punishing officers for enforcing the law? Where is the Supt. on this issue?....hello?....anyone there?
Um, asshat? Read the first line of the posting...where it says "Confirm? Deny?" We are hunting for information, pure and simple.
As you have information relating to the incident, you have proven the original poster to be full of hot air.
Once again, stop confusing what we say with what our readers say.
assuming all the information is true, Cmder Yamishiroya should be sent to midnights in 004 as a LT and the officer in question should be meritorious dick
Plus be the winner of a civil suit
Wheres the media?
Glad Im retired
12:12:00 AM
I believe that the headline SCC put on this was: Confirm or deny?
Should stories about misbehaiving Alderman be ignored?
Get a life and atleast TRY to be honest.
10/15/2007 12:12:00 AM
Someone needs to read a little slower and understand the text. SCC was asking if that post (obviously from a reader) can be confirmed or denied. So thanks for proving it possibly false, and at the same time, thanks for being an asshat.
Sorry off topic , but did anyone hear of a news outlet filming officers leaving Dugan's saturday night, and then requesting interviews regarding drinking and driving? Rumor?
VERY IMPORTANT!!!
FYI Boys and Girls...
Several 010th District officers left Duggan's on Halsted two nights ago and as they walked to the parkinglot a man walked up and asked them a question. The question was "hey, you guys have been drinking for 3 hrs. and your also the police- Are you guys getting into your cars and going to drive now?"
The P.O.s also noticed the microphone the reporter was holding and then the ABC 7 news truck parked on Halsted. Im sure they P.O.'s were shocked but handled it by replying...that
while yes they were coming from Duggans but No they were not going to drive they were going to Taco King for some food. The P.O.s then WALKED to taco king and ate slowly!
It appears the media is probably doing an "exclusive report" on P.O.s drinking in bars. Please watch your backs.
***************FYI****************
This comes from two very reliable sources:
Saturday night/Sunday morning an undercover news crew was filming Dugans on Halsted. They were filming people drinking, leaving the bar, and if they got into cars, how they drove off.
Be aware they are out there trying to stir up more shit!!
The I-Bond was delivered to the aldermans office and his license returned. The alderman told the officer, you don't want to do this and you do not know what you are doing, after the officer had already written the ticket. I also heard somewhere that in a previous comments alderman tunney had admitted to being one of those people that used his cell while driving and encouraged officers to write the citation. I sincerily hope that the law will be equal for all and that the alderman will step up and pay his fine. We trust those that represent us to be honest and follow the rules. I think a public apology is in order.
I'm sure if anyone would be quoted on it, you'd see it on the front page of the Sun-Times in an instant.
I mean, even SCC is asking "does anyone know if it's true?" but you idiots pretend like it's such a horrible double-standard that the papers won't just go ahead a print the rumor complete with a photo of Tunney with an icky black mustache pencilled in. Get a grip!
Yami does not have a clue with what is going on in his district. Where was he during the fire that happened in 023? Do you think he can name his top 10 most active p.o's? Doubt it. All he dies is walk around smiling and letting his political hack b#$%h district manager run everything in the district. Yami and his new LT. on 2nd watch Konan the barbarian should take a flying leap and let people do there jobs.
THAT OFFICER NEEDS TO CONTACT THE FEDS. IF HE DOES HIS CHANCES OF A MERIT PROMOTION GO UP DRAMATICALLY.
HMMM MAYBE IF ALL OF US STARTED DOING THAT THE ALDERMAN WILL MAKE NEW SILLY RULES FOR US.
Hey, slow down everyone....let's wait until this is confirmed or denied before we do what we always do, which is scream "Chaaarrrge" anonymously in word only, then don't really act and it's business as usual....I, for one, doubt there is much to this...usually, there are a ton of blogs immediately after something like this happens, but not this time....deep breath....plus, its 23. The alderman up there is not exactly a rev from the ghetto, so lets wait and see what, if anything, happens...
Dana has already figured out a solution to this problem. He is going to have a ceremony with Ald. Tunney where he will equip him with one of his own personal Bluetoofs! Don't worry Commander Gary, Superfly Dana finna come to the rescue.
What ever happened when the vindictive new 24th Ward Ald. Sharon Dixon recently had the highly regarded Officer Dannye Ward bounced from his regular Beat 1014 (16th St.)?
agree 100% read first! SSC is RIGHT!
To: 10/15/2007 12:12:00 AM
>>So, yes, SCC, you ARE typical media. Attempting to brew up a firestorm makes you no different from CNN, NBC, ABC or even the reverends! No one was angry as you insist. No one is at risk at going to mids. But being that you know that is the biggest reaction you can drum up from this crowd, I guess you are just following suit. PO H will be just fine and not because of you. But rather because eventhough city officials, and even bosses get undue slander at the hands of SCC, in the real world things really do just work out. Get a life and atleast TRY to be honest.<<
Hey dickwad, if you read some of the other postings you would have seen the comment was posted by someone else.
But SCC, like everything else its probably is your fault (not)because you did not italicize the post for simpletons like 12:12 AM to make them realize you did not write it. Remember you wrote a post about the differences between your writings and the repeating of postings from the comments section.
Sometimes you have to help the village idiots.
GOOD JOB OFFICER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm suprised TT was polite. I've dealt with him a couple times in the past and he was a real JO!!! TT is a smart little weasel. He may be a JO but he is smarter than to do what was claimed. I'm glad somebody denied the claim, I hate to see a good PO get jammed up for nothing.
Unrelated: Day 3 of Capt. Graeber not adding a comment to the blog self-endorsing himself as the best Capt. in the City. Was he RDO over the weekend? Has he been sick? That's 3 days now that the exempts haven't seen the spin that you have put on your entire meritorious career.
Once again, stop confusing what we say with what our readers say.
10/15/2007 12:22:00 AM
SCC, you put ALOT of Asshat Unconfirmed Media Garbage out there.
Thats the way it is. Write even a parker on the wrong car and they will throw you in lockup for a period. It has happened. Political hack bosses!
Unless he's a PPO, you can't change his bid shift anyway.
If it's true, we need Capt. Graeber up in 23 as the new Commander. He's the REAL police and a well respected leader by all those that work for him!
Anonymous said...
Unrelated: Day 3 of Capt. Graeber not adding a comment to the blog self-endorsing himself as the best Capt. in the City. Was he RDO over the weekend? Has he been sick? That's 3 days now that the exempts haven't seen the spin that you have put on your entire meritorious career.
10/15/2007 07:05:00 AM
Friend, you have some real issue if you think ANYTHING other than highly about John Graeber. You must not work, becasue any cop that works knows that he is the real deal. No, I'm not JG, no I do not work for him, I worked WITH him and I know.
He is what the merit selection process should turn up - great coppers. Not political, backstabbing, phone call having, no knowledge having, no experience having clout babies.
Get a clue!
Alderman don't get tickets and who writes the talking on the cell phone bullshit. I'm not saying its right its just how it's always been. None of us including SCC or going to change that. WHo cares unless the alderman is a police hating none supporter. Is that the case with this person? I have never worked in 23 is it that slow? No gang peices of shit driving through to write tickets or TVB if thats what your going to do for activity?
TO: "What ever happened when the vindictive new 24th Ward Ald. Sharon Dixon recently had the highly regarded Officer Dannye Ward bounced from his regular Beat 1014 (16th St.)?
10/15/2007 01:34:00 AM"
She has made enemies of the police, a bad start in any political career. Hope it is a short career. It seems she used her $300,000 city office allowance
to convert her home to her aldermanic office. The she wants angry constituents arrested for making their protests heard in her home/office.
My suggestion, Dannye is well liked by the people there; he should move in and run as Alderman of that ward.
I'm was releived to hear the story from the p/o in 023 who was at the desk and witnessed the incident with the alderman. THANK YOU.
You stopped people from making a mountain out of a mole hill.
To the officer, good job no matter who you had stopped.
To the alderman, thank you for acting as a professional. It's only a MCC violation.
To all, stay safe.
Some people can do almost anything and drive. Some people cannot drive at all.
But unless it causes, or almost causes an accident, or some other factor like being a known gangbanger I would not write that ticket. I would feel real pimpy writing that violation as I drove my squad car, while using my radio, punching in plates on my PDT, drinking my coffee, looking for bad guys and yes, talking on my cell phone.
If you haven't heard, we are going to finally get, limited use, GPS cell phones to use in the field.
Stay Safe.
Can someone please call the media and get that in the paper? FUCK THESE Aldermen
12:12am No doubt the aldermans secretary typed that
That rumor about coppers leaving duggans is true. Heard it from a detective who knows one of the coppers. Apparently they work in 002 had 2 on the end and went out for a couple after work. they walk out of duggans and are approached by ch 2 news who go on to ask if they plan on driving home? Coppers were caught off guard but called w/c who sent a car to pick them up. If true, great job by that boss. The media is out of control. Be careful, they want us all to go down
What is it with these new people. the radios are full blast and they screetch constantly.
Not sure if the capt graeber you are all talking about is the guy on midnights in 008, but if so you are a total jag if you actually DONT like that man. He is probably one of the best bosses I have seen since I been here(10yrs) and I dont work for the man. he is straight up guy and never an asshole to any blue shirts. That alone puts him above the rest
That DM in 023 has been allowed to "RUN" the CO's office since she has gotten there. A real nasty person. Came there and thinks she can be the CO when he can't be found. She tried that with the 2nd W/C and promptly got her gal balls handed to her. She's something else!
I'm not even sure this is the right post but I do have these concerns:
I think you are a reasonably intelligent, articulate person (cop) who has some well-defined bitches about the way the police are portrayed. I guess my question is this - what should a normal citizen think and/or do when there is so much negative pub? I think much of it is probably way overdone, but, at 70 years old, I believe 'where there's smoke...'. Particularly disturbing are the incidents regarding the cops in taverns. Why should we not feel threatened when we are approached by the police?
Anonymous said...
Once again, stop confusing what we say with what our readers say.
10/15/2007 12:22:00 AM
SCC, you put ALOT of Asshat Unconfirmed Media Garbage out there.
10/15/2007 07:10:00 AM
Is that u SUpt?
Why should it be any different from SOS officers thinking they too are above the law?
By the way, several of the guys who did not get dumped to the districts are still in SFG AND they knew JF pretty well. Surprise! Surprise!
Still think the unit is on the up and up with CPD?
You handjobs in SFG keep telling yourselves how you got over everyone....your day is coming.
-153 old guy
Way to stick up for your troops, Yamishiroya. Everyone knows that the W/C's are the lapdogs for the Aldermen - it's pathetic. If we keep writing the Aldermen tickets, it won't matter. They'll just vote themselves another payraise to make up the difference.
The post should've been entitled "CPD: Damned if they do, Damned if they don't"
Outstanding work, Officer. Keep dropping the Hammer!
As if cops, other electeds, or other govt workers for that matter get silly tickets like this when they're pulled over. Most of us know we're going to get out of anything that doesn't cause an accident. How rookie is the cop that doesn't recognize (by face or by name!) the Alderman in the district he works in?
Anonymous said...
***************FYI****************
This comes from two very reliable sources:
Saturday night/Sunday morning an undercover news crew was filming Dugans on Halsted. They were filming people drinking, leaving the bar, and if they got into cars, how they drove off.
Be aware they are out there trying to stir up more shit!!
10/15/2007 12:47:00 AM
I work downtown (not hq, actual downtown chicago)...if true, that's the absolute end of parking passes for the news trucks. Park em in a pay lot just like everybody else!
Friend, you have some real issue if you think ANYTHING other than highly about John Graeber. You must not work, becasue any cop that works knows that he is the real deal. No, I'm not JG, no I do not work for him, I worked WITH him and I know.
He is what the merit selection process should turn up - great coppers. Not political, backstabbing, phone call having, no knowledge having, no experience having clout babies.
Get a clue!
10/15/2007 08:31:00 AM
Cpt Graeber was AWESOME to work for. Really knows how to take care of people. Haven't worked for him in years, but cannot imagine that he changed one bit. Deserving of any promotion that came his way....would make a fantastic top cop....
Who is ever saying that Tunney came into 023 Desk and posted a bond has to be Yami or one of his CAPS people. Here is the 100% truth. Tunney received the ticket during the day shift. Tunney calls the Commander 023 to advise him of what had occured. Commander Gary calls the 3rd watch desk Sgt and orders him to hand deliver Ald Tunney's license back to his residence. Tunney never stepped foot into 023 on Friday. I don't know if he even posted a bond to get his DL back. I don't know if Tunney was being hostile but, he at least reached out to Gary for some advise and/or special treatment. I can't believe people would try and cover up for Gary , he wouldn't do it for you.
Anonymous said...
***************FYI****************
This comes from two very reliable sources:
Saturday night/Sunday morning an undercover news crew was filming Dugans on Halsted. They were filming people drinking, leaving the bar, and if they got into cars, how they drove off.
Be aware they are out there trying to stir up more shit!!
10/15/2007 12:47:00 AM
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We were told about this at roll call in 011.............WTF!
Anonymous said...
Unrelated: Day 3 of Capt. Graeber not adding a comment to the blog self-endorsing himself as the best Capt. in the City. Was he RDO over the weekend? Has he been sick? That's 3 days now that the exempts haven't seen the spin that you have put on your entire meritorious career.
10/15/2007 07:05:00 AM
If your talking shit about this Captain you need your head examined asshole! John as a district officer did a great job he is now and always was "The real police" hope he makes 1st deputy then at least have someone in that spot who knows how to talk to officers! but it looks like jimmy keating will get it due to his major daley clout!
As far as the mulit-millionaire tunney who still owns 3 ann sathers restarants and loves men he is a jagoff like the rest and was behind the cell phone law fuck him another alderthieve!
Anonymous said...
Sorry off topic , but did anyone hear of a news outlet filming officers leaving Dugan's saturday night, and then requesting interviews regarding drinking and driving? Rumor?
10/15/2007 12:38:00 AM
I personally was the subject of channel 7's malicious attempts to screw over officers they have undercover teams who are mostly college interns who are promised if they get a story they are offered a job at the station! They have an open contract with enterprise rent a car same as iad and ops that allows them to use a different vehicle at will and you need a court order for enterprise to tell you who rented said vehicle! Be very careful with the media snakes chuck goudie and his ilk will do anything to take away your jobs! They also are able to run plates to get your home address so follow the state law that allows you to register your private vehicles to the station address at least try to keep these idiots from waiting by your home to "surpise you"!
We'll see if Tunney doesn't use his influence to get the violation thrown out. What excuse could he use to justify the use of the cell phone while driving? Reporting crime, talking to Daley on a zoning issue.... The story isn't done, it's only begun.
off topic- we are dealing in a new era of policing,the media can not wait to cut are throats at every turn. we are the punching bag of every minister,aldercreature,and every other community activist and plus in every district we are undermanned and we do not have the basic equipment to do our jobs properly i.e. no working pdts. i really believe that we need to become united and start being there for each other. this blog is good in many areas but unfortunately a lot of times on this blog we treat each other just as bad as the thugs do on the street. at the district level,lets end the petty infighting with each other and lets become a family again. a lot of people talk crap about the old time police but back then they knew how to be a family. a example i remember in the news in 1992,the 10-1 fundraiser for jon burge. on that night 5000 officers packed the plumbers hall,showed their support even with tv cameras and media protests. unfortunately today that unity is nonexistent. a lot of individuals were working the night on roosevelt/mozart the night that banger got shot. i have a thought to ponder. when we were getting pelted with rocks and bottles and all hell broke loose,did anyone think,i do not like this officer so i do not want this officer helping or i do not like this officer etc,etc,. the only thing anyone thought of was we all need to stick together to be safe and all that other stuff did not matter. we united and we were a family even for a moment. to my fellow officers in blue,be safe,this too shall pass,and lets be good to each other and take care of each other because at the end of the day all we have is each other.
Friend, you have some real issue if you think ANYTHING other than highly about John Graeber. You must not work, becasue any cop that works knows that he is the real deal. No, I'm not JG, no I do not work for him, I worked WITH him and I know.
He is what the merit selection process should turn up - great coppers. Not political, backstabbing, phone call having, no knowledge having, no experience having clout babies.
Get a clue!
10/15/2007 08:31:00 AM
You hit the nail on the head brother.
Everyone . .
Go to the media links on the right side of the SCC page;
Start looking for the e-mail addresses of various reporters and e-mail them this story. Word has to get out to the public NOW ! ! !
Anonymous said...
Unless he's a PPO, you can't change his bid shift anyway.
10/15/2007 07:34:00 AM
Did you ever hear of 20% managment? They could apply it to anybody.
010th dist alum Danny Ward has been there done that on the northside of 010 for more years than I have o the job. If some pimmpy aldercreature is mad becase danny doesnt cowtow to all her wishes and takes retribution she will find out Danny is very popular with the citizens that are decent hard working folks out there(yes there are plenty). Danny might not play the dope game anymore but he is a damn good street cop and someone you want there when the sh*t hits the fan and the block is up for grabs.
The Cmdr. of 023 is a clear example of what is wrong with merit promotions; however, b/c he is asian everyone overlooks it and thinks he made it on his own. He is a MERIT promotion. He is as bad as all the other non-deserving merit promotions.
Alderman Tunney is a class act. His family owned a few restaurants and was always good the police. I have met him and his sister a number of times, both before and after he was elected, at police functions. The family donated food to these functions and even hosted one that I am aware of. Again, he is a class act and a friend to the police. Not the type of person who would drop a name nor would he seek vengence for such an incident.
Why is that the nobody in the NEW SFG has the balls to post the secret SOS FAX list of names of the officers dumped to the districts...your old partners?
I mean you ask these SFG people about it and they look like they are going bawl over it. They know it was unfair.
Why is it so secret? Even SCC hasn't posted it??? There are over 100 names on the FAX, yet nobody knows how to get their hands on it to post the names? I almost got a hold of a copy of the the list, but A.K. wussed out last minute. Face it bro, you are now a company man. Sad day indeed. Could it be because the b.s about CR#s didn't apply to a majority of the officers dumped? There is something really rotten about this so-called FAX from HQ.
Personally, I believe the list is being withheld to prevent a class action lawsuit. Where's the list?
SOS was done wrong. SWAT was done wrong. It's time to see the list.
Don't forget to bid tomorrow or you are royally fucked my SOS brothers!
- The Northsider
That's terrible. I agree with the previous comment of this story not being reported on mainstream media for political clout reasons. Would you mind if I took this story to my blog? I whole heartedly believe more people, specifically chicago citizens should read more about this.
- Spaniard
Anonymous said...
***************FYI****************
This comes from two very reliable sources:
Saturday night/Sunday morning an undercover news crew was filming Dugans on Halsted. They were filming people drinking, leaving the bar, and if they got into cars, how they drove off.
Be aware they are out there trying to stir up more shit!!
10/15/2007 12:47:00 AM
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I heard this too. Does anyone know if this is true?
Goddamn vultures.
Conceptual Terrorists Encase Sears Tower In Jell-O
CHICAGO—In what is being called the first conceptual terrorist attack on American soil, the landmark Sears Tower was encased in 18 million tons of strawberry gelatin early Monday morning, leaving thousands shocked, angry, and seriously confused.
Authorities called to the scene of the senseless attack said they could do little to control the large crowds of dangerously bewildered citizens, many of whom searched desperately for some semblance of meaning in what had just taken place. As of press time, 11 night security guards were still trapped inside the famous structure, their rescue unlikely until the Jell-O melts.
LAW SUIT.... PERIOD!!!!
Confirm or Deny? The SOS officers who returned to the districts are without a doubt the biggest dogasses around.
These glory boys refuse to work now. WTF?
-002 po
"Unless he's a PPO, you can't change his bid shift anyway."
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HA!
Remember to vote them out of office Fuck them. This needs media attention...
I think IAD should be notified an a CR# obtained against the Commander if it is TRUE!!!!!!!!
Screw alderman TT... talk on the cell while driving you get a citation like everyone else! It seems whether this is confirmed, unconfirmed or whatever there is a common theme here... (as sergeant
K in 023 will tell you...and just so you know, Im in 023) by simply doing your job, you get fucked.
I dont know if its the same way city wide, but it is in 023. So keep doing your job and let the chips fall where they may. Just a sad double standard that seems to be gripping this city and us officers. So stay safe and be careful out there!
FUCk these Aldermann, they are ready to throw all Police Officers under a bus, at the drop of a hat over unsubstantiated allegations!
This Aldercreature got busted let him suffer the consequences just like regular folk!
Why isn't the News picking up on this incident?
As for the Commander of 023, what a ball less bitch he is for the Aldercreature, He should have backed his Police Offciers but no he groveled, beg for forgiveness and kissed the Aldercreatures ring!
Commander must be the bottom boy for the Aldercreature!
Anonymous said...
Yami does not have a clue with what is going on in his district. Where was he during the fire that happened in 023? Do you think he can name his top 10 most active p.o's? Doubt it. All he dies is walk around smiling and letting his political hack b#$%h district manager run everything in the district. Yami and his new LT. on 2nd watch Konan the barbarian should take a flying leap and let people do there jobs.
10/15/2007 12:59:00 AM
Which is it? Is "Yami" doing something or not? When you figure it out report back to the class.
That's Such Bullshit! If we write every day normal people for violations, why don't they have the same afforded to them. Since were on the subject, Why did my wife have to go to court for a seat belt violation, even after asking in a very nice way for a break and dropping my name. Now I know. She needs to be an aldercreature. Or mabey because she got pulled over in 016
07:05:00
Actually you stupid fuck, the always honorable Captain Graeber was admitted to Christ Hospital this morning after possibly suffering a heart attack. Happy now you piece of shit? God bless you John, I hope you are well!
SCC, you put ALOT of Asshat Unconfirmed Media Garbage out there.
10/15/2007 07:10:00 AM
SCC,
He doesn't know A LOT is 2(two) words.
Where does the media drink?
Start taking photos of them on your cell phones.
Turn about is fair play.
I am going to Dugan’s on Saturday night and drink Diet Pepsi. I am going to stumble slightly on my way out the door. If the news media approaches me, I am going to state on camera that they are obviously alleging I am intoxicated. I am going to call a Supervisor to the scene and insist on a CR# and a Breathalyzer. THEN I AM GOING TO RETIRE NICELY!
Just the facts:
-- Ald Tunney did not protest the ticket to the officer or hassle him in anyway...if you don't believe me, just ask the person at City Hall that he was talking to at the time.
-- When he got to his office, he did call the 023 Cmdr and ask him why, when there is a manpower shortage and there are some pretty serious crimes being commited in 023 (rapes and assaults) that are going unsolved, officers are stopping cars solely for a ticket for talking on a cell phone. Not an unfair question.
-- He did not ask to have his DL brought to his office, the Cmdr did that on his own using a Sgt. as his messenger boy. He signed for it and considered the incident to be in the past.
-- He never asked for or expected any negative action would be taken against the officer and was not happy when he heard (according to a blogger on SCC) that might have been the case. He's probably made that clear to 023 Cmdr by now.
Tom's been a good friend of this cop's family for 20+ years and I know for a fact that he has only the highest respect for working police officers. He's a friend, not a foe, so don't turn this into something it's not.
Working PO
After speaking with a former corp. counsel lawyer, it was brought to my attn that whenever that shithead the unhonorable r. eugene pinchum gets involved in a lawsuit against the city, he calls his shithead alder-buddies and they force the city to settle.
Unrelated: Day 3 of Capt. Graeber not adding a comment to the blog self-endorsing himself
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HE IS A CLASS ACT,ALWAYS COMPLEMENTS GOOD WORK NEVER WALKS BY YOU WITHOUT SAYING HELLO AND IF YOU NEED HELP WITH SOMETHING H HELPS HE IS A PLEASURE TO WORK FOR. CAPT J.S. ON 3RD WATCH IS A STAND UP GUY ALSO A LITTLE ROUGHER THAN GRAEBER BUT ALSO GOOD TO WORK FOR.
Yes
ABC 7 I-team is watching Dugan bar because it is becoming a gay nightclub soon.
Lemme guess? The copper's initials were JR???
Ok, all went alright. But memo to Alderman Tunney, stay off the phone while driving like all of us have to, or get an earpiece.
To the poster besmurching the intent of SCC, the moderator of this site, as has been previously pointed out, the post was, I also believe, in the spirit of a man who once said, "Trust but verify". That was a man who for many years wrote his own speeches which many people agreed with but other small minded and/or manipulative peeple with the means of a monopolistic media deemed an "amiable dunce", an "Asshat" in the Copper vernucular, I suppose.
That guy became President of the United States and he didn't do such an Asshat job of it. He showed us not to just accept out-of-hand what people say but to closely follow what they do after listening to what they said, all the while casting a large net of observations. I think that is the spirit of this blog and I am compelled to give a hardy Fuck You for attempting to brainwash the young and inexperienced or drunk that may visit here into believing SCC's heart was placed any where else but to ascertain the facts with respect to the topic of this thread. Nice attempt at the mind-fuck Officer, if in fact that is what you are.
Respectfully,
DW
(not a cop)
Hey, SCC,
Here's a link to an article about CeaseFire:
http://www.chicagojournal.com/main.asp?SectionID=25&SubSectionID=55&ArticleID=3512&TM=76294.41
I wonder whether you might post it, as a way of getting some reaction to CeaseFire in general. I'm curious how cops feel about the group.
Excuse me. If you are drinking, you shouldn't be driving. Let the media haunt you all you want, if you're on the up and up. If what you're going to do is drink, eat a taco and take a cab....why do you have to be careful out there?!
as far as the media hunting us.....might be a good idea to scrape FOP identifiers etc. off the car for a while, stay out of "police bars" and wear c/d when going out.
this b.s. won't blow over till long after the SOS stuff is out of the news.
Totally unrelated:
Rashan Salaam and Curtis Enis both sucked.
At least they had 1,000 yard rushing seasons.
What do you say Cedric?
U.S. Supreme Court has refused to dismiss a lawsuit against two city police officers by a man imprisoned for a gas station robbery he didn't commit.
The nation's highest court has let stand a lower court's ruling that a trial should decide whether Officer Jeremy DePietro and Detective Christopher Borona violated Christopher Russo's constitutional rights when they arrested him for the 2002 holdup even though a surveillance videotape of the crime apparently showed Russo was not the robber.
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Great. Never arrest anyone. If the person you arrest gets off the case, or you make a mistake, you'll lose the job and house and family. Why bother? Thanks courts, actually with the police going to be sued out of the proffession, what will lawyers and judges do? Actually arrest people themselves? Not a chance. The Courts want civil unrest.
WTF SCC...been all day?! come on with it!
10/15/2007 12:12:00 AM
You are right and I stand corrected. I did not see the confirm or deny at the beginning of the thread. Sorry about the finger pointing. Although I stand by the statement that I believe SCC is a media source, I shouldnt have jumped the gun on this particular reaction. However, SCC you do throw gas on several fires reporting only one side of certain situations. Which is fine, it is your blog. Just as NBC, ABC, CNN et al report the news as they see fit because it is their station. We say we hate the news media, yet we continue to tune in on a daily basis. I dont necessarily agree with you, yet I tune in. I guess its the American way. But PLEASE, find a new insult.. Asshat just doesnt do it any more!
10/15/2007 12:23:00 AM
Leave 004 alone. It is not a dumping ground nor should it be. Great officers, mostly great support from the bosses. 005 has been the dumping ground and probably should be as it is overidden with bosses that don't take care of their officers.
Stop making-up shit, Jackstavich!
You are right and I stand corrected. I did not see the confirm or deny at the beginning of the thread. Sorry about the finger pointing. Although I stand by the statement that I believe SCC is a media source...
"SCC a media source." Bout fucking time the other side of the story gets heard. Nothing's perfect, but at least cops now have their own voice.
Keep it up SCC.
I once pulled over an alderman years ago. Once I found out he was an alderman (back then and maybe even now, Alderman had badges like the police, their star number being their ward) I told him to be more careful and have a nice day. The alderman handed me his business card and said, if ever needed anything, give him a call. A few weeks later I called and asked for two new garbage cans (back when the garbage cans were 55 gallon metal drums). I also reminded him I was the cop who pulled him over and gave him a break. The alderman asked me my address and when I told him, the alderman said, sorry that's not my ward and hung up.
What a jackoff!
Anonymous wrote:
That rumor about coppers leaving duggans is true. Heard it from a detective who knows one of the coppers. Apparently they work in 002 had 2 on the end and went out for a couple after work. they walk out of duggans and are approached by ch 2 news who go on to ask if they plan on driving home? Coppers were caught off guard but called w/c who sent a car to pick them up. If true, great job by that boss. The media is out of control. Be careful, they want us all to go down.
Again with the old Roman principle of cas aldatu. "Cops are special, and laws don't apply to us." You're a jagoff. You don't like people taking pictures, take a cab home from the bar like normal people after you've been drinking for 3 hours.
for god's sake, stay the hell out of Dugan's !!! nuf said !!
Hey Dont You Know Who I Am?
Not in this case.
Yami is the next SUPT Bank on it!!
If anyone cares to read the law, there is an exemption to the cell phone law to agents of the city in the course of their duties (Aldermen, Commanders, Fire Chiefs etc.) So the ticket is no good anyway..
off topic
officer safety - cell phone and gun video here:
http://www.policelink.com/
entertainment/videos/
1370-officer-safety-alert
-- Ald Tunney did not protest the ticket to the officer or hassle him in anyway...if you don't believe me, just ask the person at City Hall that he was talking to at the time.-------
You signed this, WORKING PO???? How do you know he was talking to CITY HALL, Mr. WORKING PO?????
This is nothing new, Caption Dulay did this on a regular bases.
regarding going out for a few pops after work---some advice- 1) take the police medallions/stickers/hatbands off of your cars. 2) conceal ur weapon or leave it at home 3) dont wear ur work pants/boots to the bar-change your clothes 4) dont wear police-related shirts/jackets/hats to the bar 5)park legally. anyone want to add any other things i forgot?
"Did you ever hear of 20% managment? They could apply it to anybody.
10/15/2007 01:21:00 PM"
WAHT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE CONCEPT OF BEING A SUCCESSFUL BIDDER?
I guess its the American way. But PLEASE, find a new insult.. Asshat just doesnt do it any more!
10/15/2007 09:22:00 PM
How about King Douche Bag of the Underworld??
THAT OFFICER NEEDS TO CONTACT THE FEDS. IF HE DOES HIS CHANCES OF A MERIT PROMOTION GO UP DRAMATICALLY.
Oh right keep dreaming. GOOF
Re Dugans
Here is what you do. Go to Dugans and drink soft drinks all night. Walk out and stumble a bit. Let them approach you and just say, No "hic-up" comment and driveoff in your car to the nearest hospital. Pay to have a BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL done on your blood which wil be 0.00.
When the TV station airs the footage, sue for about $5,000.000.00 and live large!
Kudos to Capt. Carroll, midnight W/C in 012,for getting those coppers out of harm's way at Dugan's, he's a great boss who put together a great group of midnight officers. He doesn't preach numbers at roll call, his concern is that we all go home to our families safe and in one piece in the morning. It's enjoyable coming to work on midnights. We're a tired group but we are in good spirits. He's a boss who can dish out a joke and take a joke. Never seen him raise his voice. Not the bit vindictive. Several times he and his sergeants pow-wowwed in a closed door session to get someone out of a fucked up situation, whether it was a midnight guy, 3rd watch guy, a tact guy or an outside unit guy. By the end of the tour, everything was resolved with the copper out of harm's way.
"Again with the old Roman principle of cas aldatu. "Cops are special, and laws don't apply to us." You're a jagoff. You don't like people taking pictures, take a cab home from the bar like normal people after you've been drinking for 3 hours.
10/15/2007 09:37:00 PM"
The only Jagoff is the one you see in the Mirror each morning. Plain & simple why has it become open season on POs while off duty as well? Last I checked consuming alcoholic beverages in a licensed premiseis legal. Keep in mind one thing the Media lacks iniative to generate stories on their own. More than likely the Powers that be(MAYORS OFFICE) are trying to divert attention from their SOS connected boys & try to jam up the non -clouted rank& file. Sad Part, your FOP Leadership the lot of them are more concerned defending these clowns& could care less about YOU. VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!
Whats the difference between a Catfish and an Alderperson?
One has whiskers and stinks, the other is a fish!
The Hell's Angels motorcycle club has less felons than the group of people who once served as Alderman.
I heard the Alderman went right into the watch commander's office after getting the ticket and demanded that the ticket be non-suited. The W/C said sure but it will cost you $10,000.00? The Alderman said why would it cost that much money? The W/C said, that is what you charged my wife for the zoning change on her business building, I am just trying to get back my money!
Way off topic, but I have to agree with the post about radio volume.If you key your radio and get that annoying feedback, your radio is TOO DAMNED LOUD! Are all you new guys deaf? Must have been all that devil music you listened to growing up.
It'll be on the front page of the slum times tomorrow. I'm surprized at this but we'll see how it comes out.
Northsider & Old 153 guy: Put down the pipe my brothers! Where are you getting your information from? The "SOS fax list" was not faxed, ask anyone who was there it was hand delivered by the commander directly from HQ. Risley adddressed the unit and had no info about where everyone was headed(list was being prepared @ 35th & MI) We found out when the commander arrived with list in hand. The key here is IN HAND that's where the list remained before, during and after they dropped the bomb."Guys who knew JF" Let it die already what was left of Jake's watch was dumped period end of story."A.K. wussied out and is a company man" for not sending "THE LIST"(You can't be reffering to Big Al he hasn't even been here since they dropped the bomb.) ASSHAT no one held the list in their hands. Do you think they want to make it available? The bosses mentioned SCC by name and commented about future blog entries.You want FACTS not a Fax just ask someone that knows WTF is going on!
- SOG, SOS & SFG Stay Safe!
Tunney 'embarrassed' for getting cell-phone ticket
Tribune staff report
9:45 PM CDT, October 15, 2007
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Digg Del.icio.us Facebook Fark Google Newsvine Reddit Yahoo Print Single page view Reprints Reader feedback Text size: A Chicago ordinance banning the use of hand-held cellular phones in vehicles has bitten one of its creators.
Ald. Thomas Tunney (44th) acknowledged Monday that he was ticketed last week in his North Side ward as he was conducting city-related business on the phone while he drove.
"It was what it was," said Tunney, who was among supporters of the ban when it was approved by the City Council in 2005. "Of course, I am embarrassed by it."
At the same time he questioned police priorities in going after traffic offenses when there is violent crime on city streets.
"We have time in the middle of the day to pull over a person for use of a cell," Tunney said. "I will probably frame [the ticket] to let my constituents know that [police] actually do stop people."
Tunney said he has paid his $50 fine and is contemplating getting "a better headset when I am driving because I made a mistake."
A Chicago ordinance banning the use of hand-held cellular phones in vehicles has bitten one of its creators.
Ald. Thomas Tunney (44th) acknowledged Monday that he was ticketed last week in his North Side ward as he was conducting city-related business on the phone while he drove.
"It was what it was," said Tunney, who was among supporters of the ban when it was approved by the City Council in 2005. "Of course, I am embarrassed by it." At the same time he questioned police priorities in going after traffic offenses when there is violent crime on city streets.
"We have time in the middle of the day to pull over a person for use of a cell," Tunney said. "I will probably frame [the ticket] to let my constituents know that [police] actually do stop people."
Tunney said he has paid his $50 fine and is contemplating getting "a better headset when I am driving because I made a mistake."
I guess the alderman is saying is, DONT WRITE TRAFFIC TICKETS, go after serious crime. I think we should do exactly that.
To: - The Northsider
The list doesn't effect anyone other then those on it.
The people "dumped" served in SOS at the departments will. SOS was a non-bid unit. No more SOS then see ya, no reason needed.
As for SWAT, that too is a non-bid unit.
The magic number of nine got a few guys launched from SWAT a while back. I think the SWAT guys launched was just a byproduct that 35th street bundled into the elimination of SOS. Now there are openings for who ever.
The people that would sue don't need the list, they can compile it by talking to each other.
Be safe all
Leave 004 alone. It is not a dumping ground nor should it be. Great officers, mostly great support from the bosses. 005 has been the dumping ground and probably should be as it is overidden with bosses that don't take care of their officers.
10/15/2007 09:29:00 PM
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003 is a dumping ground too. you should see some of the officers that work there... they're lucky - that for whatever reason that district isn't in a rap every night..
Did you ever hear of 20% managment? They could apply it to anybody.
10/15/2007 01:21:00 PM
you need to read your contract and know what "managment" means. UNLESS they make you a "personal concern" they can not touch you! People who are managment are also secure unless they use reverse senoity to fill a vacancy
Anonymous said...
regarding going out for a few pops after work---some advice- 1) take the police medallions/stickers/hatbands off of your cars. 2) conceal ur weapon or leave it at home 3) dont wear ur work pants/boots to the bar-change your clothes 4) dont wear police-related shirts/jackets/hats to the bar 5)park legally. anyone want to add any other things i forgot?
10/15/2007 10:10:00 PM
Drink at home, there is too much trouble to be had in these gin mills.
If the Channel 7 news crew asked me if I was going to another bar to have a drink upon exiting Dugan's I would have told them I was actually just going to meet up with Hosea Sanders to smoke a rock!
The Real Hillary Clinto Exposed
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Kudos to Capt. Carroll, midnight W/C in 012,for getting those coppers out of harm's way at Dugan's, he's a great boss who put together a great group of midnight officers. He doesn't preach numbers at roll call, his concern is that we all go home to our families safe and in one piece in the morning. It's enjoyable coming to work on midnights. We're a tired group but we are in good spirits. He's a boss who can dish out a joke and take a joke. Never seen him raise his voice. Not the bit vindictive. Several times he and his sergeants pow-wowwed in a closed door session to get someone out of a fucked up situation, whether it was a midnight guy, 3rd watch guy, a tact guy or an outside unit guy. By the end of the tour, everything was resolved with the copper out of harm's way.
10/15/2007 10:23:00 PM
WOW, SOME OF YOU PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN TO KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTHS SHUT!
Writing the alderman is Seiser-esque!
Anonymous said...
Unless he's a PPO, you can't change his bid shift anyway.
10/15/2007 07:34:00 AM
Did you ever hear of 20% managment? They could apply it to anybody.
10/15/2007 01:21:00 PM
May God help you on your journey, you're going to need it.
calling all cars ! calling all cars! be on the look out for a M/1 posing as a M/4 and acting like a M/2. He also is know to impersonate a F/6. when located bring to city hall to be sworn in as new top cop......That is all!!
AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETLY DIFFERENT....The lark!
Anonymous said...
Just the facts:
-- Ald Tunney did not protest the ticket to the officer or hassle him in anyway...if you don't believe me, just ask the person at City Hall that he was talking to at the time.
-- When he got to his office, he did call the 023 Cmdr and ask him why, when there is a manpower shortage and there are some pretty serious crimes being commited in 023 (rapes and assaults) that are going unsolved, officers are stopping cars solely for a ticket for talking on a cell phone. Not an unfair question.
??????????????????????????
So an Alderman knows we have a manpower shortage? If he knows this why did he and his fellow alderman pass a BS law such as the talking on the cell phone while driving? And are we, according to him, to look the other way when we see a violation because there may be a more serious crime occurring?
Maybe he should be asked that with all the important things going on in the city why do the alderman pass stupid laws like the cell phone while driving law? Not an unfair question.
Back in 1991 as a ppo I was assigned Buckingham Fountain while detailed to traffic during the summer. My instructions were to keep tourists from illegally parking at or near the fountain in violation of no parking signs to keep the flow of traffic moving. Well there was a car illegally parked at the fountain with only a female in the passenger seat. I asked her to move her vehicle or get ticketed, she informed me she could not move the vehicle becuase her husband had the keys. I wrote the vehicle a parker and continued my assignment when several minutes later a male black approached me and asked me if I was the officer who wrote him a ticket, I said yes and he proceeded to say " Son Do You Know Who I am?" I said no. He said Im Alderman XXXXX XXXXXX(Hint: he is the alderman for the 015 district)I said Sorry but I dont play politics and don not even know who my alderman is, He became furious and demanded my supervisor. My supervisor at the time was an salty old timer in the KMA club. I was very nervous being a PPO and I thought I was going to lose my job. The sgt. asked my side of the story first and then went and spoke with the Ald.,he went into a rant on why the police were harrassing citizens and tourists wanting to see the fountain and how he writes the ordinances of the city. The sgt. then tells the Ald. you should know better then, there are no parking signs posted everywhere and if he feels the signs are unjust to change the ordinances,that the ticket stands. This really pissed off the Ald. and he demanded the star # of the sgt. and threaten to have his stripes. The sgt. kool and calmly gave him his name and star #. He then turned to me and asked me for mine, empowered by the sgt. I also kool and calmly gave him mine. He proceeded to a payphone by the fountain and made a phone call.I for sure thought I was in big trouble since I was still on probation, the sgt. basically told me the Ald. was an asshat and not to worry he would take the heat if the Ald. would make a stink. The Ald. must of just got the ticket non-suited because I never heard another word of the incident and the sgt. remained a supervisor in the trafffic unit.
Sixteen years later I still dont play politics and wouldnt know this Tuney from a regular Joe and dont give a phuck and would probably write him also.
FUNNY THING IS, THE BEST ADVISE YOU'LL EVER HERE IS STFU. I WILL BET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS BULLSHIT...THE REAL CONTROVERSY IS TO MYOB...MONEY BAGS...MGEE
...If anyone cares to read the law, there is an exemption to the cell phone law to agents of the city in the course of their duties (Aldermen, Commanders, Fire Chiefs etc.) So the ticket is no good anyway...
Just read it. Perhaps you should too:
(a) Except as provided by subsection (b) of this section, no person shall drive a motor vehicle while using a mobile, cellular, analog wireless or digital telephone.
(b) The provisions of the ordinance shall not apply to:
(1) Law enforcement officers and operators of emergency vehicles, when on duty and acting in their official capabilities.
(2) Persons using a telephone with a "hands free" device allowing the driver to talk into and listen to the other party without the use of hands.
(3) Persons using a telephone to call 911 telephone numbers or other emergency telephone numbers to contact public safety forces.
(4) Person using a telephone while maintaining a motor vehicle in a stationary parked position, and not in gear.
(c) Any person who violates subsection (a) of this section shall be subject to a fine of $75.00, provided however, that if a violation occurs at the time of a traffic accident, the driver may be subject to an additional fine not to exceed $200.00.
4th district full of dog asses.
as for dugans. i'm 6'3" pushing 280 these days. i have maybe 3 beers max in a 1 hour time frame. thats with a full stomach from eating a monster lunch before check off. i continue to munch on the pop corn from the pop corn machine in which rats often dance and after 3 hours and maybe a 12 pack max, i drive home. i'm not even buzzed in the least. how the fuck are you going to drop judgement on me? Fuck you, i went out for some beers and grub with some co-workers/friends to talk about all the bullshit we just had to deal with at work. Fuck you, for jumping the gun and passing judgement on me and my partners.
Not an unfair question.
Yes it is, he is one of the alderman that spearheaded the campaign to make that a violation of city ordinance, he is just pissed because he was written. Typical, the why me attitude, the "don't you have anything better to do," bs. It's poetic justice.....
All I can say is that anonymous 12:06 is only the biggest idiot among the cops who are always complaining "waa-waa-waa, why won't the papers print the story i want them to?"
Because this story IS the front page of the Sun-Times. At least of the Sun-Times on-line. Anon 12:06, will you quit whining now?
This was on fox news this morning. It says the Alderman received a special favor because the officer personally gave him back his license when normally citizens would not get it until they go to court. You guys can never win-no matter what the media tries to show you bending the laws. I admire all of you who are no longer allowed to police without being under a microscope. Be safe!
To 10/15/2007 10:06:00 PM
-- Ald Tunney did not protest the ticket to the officer or hassle him in anyway...if you don't believe me, just ask the person at City Hall that he was talking to at the time.-------
You signed this, WORKING PO???? How do you know he was talking to CITY HALL
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Like I already said, family friend. He'd told a sibling about this event before it appeared on SCC. It's too bad it's gotten blown out of porportion.
Working PO
"As for dugans. i'm 6'3" pushing 280 these days. i have maybe 3 beers max in a 1 hour time frame. thats with a full stomach from eating a monster lunch before check off."
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Big Bob McCockenberry asks:
ohhhhh . . Are you single?
gps is good for the police
now everyone will no the west end of 8 gets no service
alderman should request print out and demand extra units are assigned to the west end of 8
Hey 02:18:00 A.M. Can you help the Bears Offensive line? 6'3, 280 lbs...
Just read it. Perhaps you should too:
NOT BUSTING UR BALLS, BUT DID I MISS SOMETHING? I SAW EMERGENCY VEHICLES...NOT JUST MUNICIPAL VEHICLES AND THE TICKET WILL DISAPPEAR THROUGH OUR COURT SYSTEM, I HAVE TICKETED TWO POLITICAL HEAVYWEIGHTS JUST TO PROVE A POINT TO THEM AND THE TICKETS BOTH VANISHED SOMEHOW, I PRESSED THE ISSUE TO AND NO ONE RECALLED SEEING THEM.
When he got to his office, he did call the 023 Cmdr and ask him why, when there is a manpower shortage and there are some pretty serious crimes being commited in 023 (rapes and assaults)
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I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS WITH CRIME MAYBE YOU CAN ASSIST WITH MORE OFFICERS, NOW SHUT THE PHUCK UP AND GET ME MY CONTRACT...SERIOUS CRIME IN 023?IS THERE ANOTHER BITCH SLAP ROBBER ON THE LOOSE?
At the same time [Tunney] questioned police priorities in going after traffic offenses when there is violent crime on city streets.
"We have time in the middle of the day to pull over a person for use of a cell," Tunney said.
YOU sent them out there to pull over cell phone users, you hypocrite
AMENDMENT OF TITLE 9, CHAPTER 40 OF MUNICIPAL CODE OF CHICAGO BY ADDITION OF NEW SECTION 260 RESTRICTING USE OF MOBILE TELEPHONES BY PERSONS OPERATING MOTOR VEHICLES
Yeas -- Aldermen Flores, Haithcock, Tillman, Preckwinkle, Hairston, Lyle, Beavers, Stroger, Beale, Pope, Balcer, Cardenas, Olivo, Burke, T. Thomas, Coleman, L. Thomas, Murphy, Rugai, Troutman, Brookins, Munos, Zalewski, Chandler, Solis, Ocasio, E. Smith, Carothers, Reboyras, Suarez, Matlak, Mell, Austin, Colon, Mitts, Allen, Laurino, 0'Connor, Doherty, Natarus, Daley, Tunney, Levar, Shiller, Schulter, M. Smith, Moore, Stone -- 48.
Nays -- None.
Interesting blog...I am not in the Police Department, but know both the Commander and the Alderman. I have had nothing but positive experiences with both. Although I'm sure Alderman have put their foot in their mouth (or ass, as it were)such as this case about chasing more important things (I cringed when I read that), I do not know where the hostility comes from regarding the Police vs. aldermen. I can only recall a few instances where one did not back the police fully- the Natarus incident over dogs and this. Speaking as a civilian, I don't get it. I don't remember the alderman going nuts over the bartender getting her ass kicked or even the Burge mess. Just curious where it comes from...
Kudos to Capt. Carroll, midnight W/C in 012,for getting those coppers out of harm's way at Dugan's, he's a great boss who put together a great group of midnight officers. He doesn't preach numbers at roll call, his concern is that we all go home to our families safe and in one piece in the morning. It's enjoyable coming to work on midnights. We're a tired group but we are in good spirits. He's a boss who can dish out a joke and take a joke. Never seen him raise his voice. Not the bit vindictive. Several times he and his sergeants pow-wowwed in a closed door session to get someone out of a fucked up situation, whether it was a midnight guy, 3rd watch guy, a tact guy or an outside unit guy. By the end of the tour, everything was resolved with the copper out of harm's way.
10/15/2007 10:23:00 PM
WOW, SOME OF YOU PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN TO KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTHS SHUT!
10/15/2007 10:51:00 PM
Thank you for the heads up, every TRR approved by this Captain will now be subject to investigation. God I love this blog!!!!
I need to retract my post from 10/15/2007 08:48:00AM
Perhaps I not used to getting up this early in the AM. I must have been half asleep or still dreaming when I thought an alderman was actually doing the right thing! I really thought the post in the blue area was the real deal that a p/o was there at the desk to set the record straight. According to the slum-times this wasn't the case. Jag-balls had his DL delivered to him along with signing an I-bond book. WTF!!!
Sorry My Brothers...
Did you ever hear of 20% managment? They could apply it to anybody.
yeah...right after all of the people on the watch with less seniority that him are moved. if he is a bid spot, he is safe. read your contract. if he is a 20 % spot...then he can be moved, but, would the commander want the news getting wind of a retaliatory move for doing your job ? probably not !
The Keesing Bandit says---
"...the alderman asked why with so many unsolved violent crimes, would a cop stop someone only for a cell phone violation. Not an unfair question..."
A very unfair question.
You don't know who you are stopping. You may be stopping the person who is wanted on an investigative alert for a violent crime. If this poster is a north sider, maybe you should consider going south or west and learn to be the police. But for now...
Kees me you fool!!!
Screw alderman tt... talk on the Cell while driving you get a Citation like everyone else! It Seems whether this is confirmed, Unconfirmed or whatever there is a Common theme here... (as sergeant
K in 023 will tell you...and just So you know, Im in 023) by simply Doing your job, you get fucked.
I dont know if its the same way City wide, but it is in 023. so Keep doing your job and let the chips fall where they may. Just a sad double standard that seems to be gripping this city and us officers. So stay safe and be careful out there!
genious
10/15/2007 04:32:00 PM
If the alderman did not want any special treatment then he should have just mailed his check instead of bringing it to the attention of the commander.
What he did was bring up the issue without asking outright for a favor but unspoken political practice prevailed. All people in positions of power know how it is done and has always been done when politicians are involved.
Lads & Ladies,
It's obvious the press is reading this blog. I believe this is where the story was picked up? Anyway, watch what you say- or make it a private blog if you want to talk in confidence.
Free speach is awesome, but most of us are old enough to understand what comes around goes around. The public is a royal pain in the ass to deal with- any city worker knows this. Some of us don't have to worry about getting shot in the process, but you know what I mean. Anyway, I'm just saying it would be wise not to drop names as this is now a very public forum. The last sun-times story opened this blog as wide as a west side whore. Many are reading it. I think it's great to see what officers are saying but just remember- some of these press SOB's are smarter than you and will make us all pay. Just a word from the (hopefully) wise.
Ciao!
LOL Thats Chicago
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