Rules and Regulations
An African-American Chicago Police officer contends that a rule barring cops from associating with criminals discriminates against black officers.
The officer argues the rule is more restrictive on black officers because of the disproportionate number of African Americans who have had contact with the criminal justice system.
- The department is enforcing a "policy that appears to have bias overtones against a specific racial group, namely African Americans," she said to the supervisor in a memo. "It is as though a deliberate trap has been set for African-American police officers."
The current Rules and Regulations of the Chicago Police Department were adopted in 1973. A number of them seem to be basic common sense type rules, but we're not really surprised someone had to put these things down in writing at some point - people still seem to violate a number of them with astonishing regularity. The Rule 47 in question reads thusly:
- Associating or fraternizing with any person known to have been convicted of any felony or misdemeanor, either State or Federal, excluding traffic and municipal ordinance violations.
Pretty straightforward. And specifically enacted to cut off ties to organized crime figures. For years, the CPD operated hand-in-hand with the Outfit. Legend has CPD officers on the safe end of the Tommy-Guns used in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. We had a Superintendent canned barely 10 years ago over friendships with a known mobster and he wasn't the only one visiting the cleaning establishment in question.
To paint this as a "trap...set for African American officers" is, quite frankly, an insult to the hundreds of hard working black officers throughout the Department. They manage to do their job day in and day out (as most of us do) without cavorting with the criminal elements off duty.
Besides, it's not like this was some sort of surprise on the officer. They teach this at the Academy. And she was on the job when Rodriguez got fired for it. Why the demand for special treatment?
To paint this as a "trap...set for African American officers" is, quite frankly, an insult to the hundreds of hard working black officers throughout the Department. They manage to do their job day in and day out (as most of us do) without cavorting with the criminal elements off duty.
Besides, it's not like this was some sort of surprise on the officer. They teach this at the Academy. And she was on the job when Rodriguez got fired for it. Why the demand for special treatment?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
139 Comments:
and 9 out of 10 people agree with this rule according the the Scum-Times poll
She will be sent to call bacl for the rest of her career and do whatever she wants..sound familiar?
Remember people there are two sets of rules!
How about Sworn officers who have been knocked up by members of criminal street gangs?
One Female officer comes to mind that has a 8 year old child and about 13 years on the job. Simple math here says that she had about 5 years on the job when she was being violated or violating rule 47.
Let me see on city insurance roles are the children of TVL, CVL, SD and GD. Sure there are more those are just the ones i know off.
Is it just me or do a few feel it necessary to stir the pot and promote discord, hatred etc. .
When in Doubt,
Whip the race card out!
Besides, it's not like this was some sort of surprise on the officer. They teach this at the Academy. And she was on the job when Rodriguez got fired for it. Why the demand for special treatment?
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Maybe her background review and application should get another look over....
Shes full of shit
and Pat Hill is on her side
man she needs a colon cleansing
I'm Irish and I find the policy that I can't be drunk and armed while off-duty to be discriminatory.
Who is this Broadway and is she THAT repulsive she can only attract convicted felons?
People like that are a disgrace to the uniform and she should be fired.
Its a good rule, it keeps us safer and keeps our minds on the law and unmarred by the evil element.
Hey, how 'bout a rule to keep elected officials from hanging out with mobsters? Ya know. Dinner in Little Italy. Brunch at a fine bar in Bridgeport. Late snack to discuss selling sitting owned land at bargain prices on Rush Street....that sorta thang.
There are also exceptions to the rule for family members. So if your brother burglarized a drugstore back in the 70's you can still see him at gatherings.
I would probably suggest changing the rule to "felon convicted in the last 7-10 years". If someone has been clean for that period of time they are not likely to get active in crime again. Assuming they do not hang out around politicians.
Oh My God! What Now? This idiot is playing the race card and I hope nobody with any common sense buys into it. Real simple, your the police or at least this officer has a badge and a gun but It sounds like the officer isnt the police if it bothers the officer so much as to cause such a stink. I became a cop years ago, I'm out there trying to uphold and enforce the law. I've had to distance myself from some friends and numerous quittances and thats how it is. The last thing I want to do is to associate with any criminals, especially convicted felons and gangsters and drug dealers. We all know how many officers are on this job today that are playing for the other side and this one in particular sounds like one. You can shove your "race bullshit" back up your ass where it came from. If you don't like it officer, find another profession.
What other job can tell you where to live, who to associate with, and how to conduct yourselves when not at work? This is one of those rules that is just putting common sense down on paper. If you are hanging out with criminals, you shouldnt be the police. It sounds like she got jammed up on something while keepin it real and is now throwing the ever popular race card. Come to think of it, the residency rule is racist to, yea, thats the ticket, lets change that too while were at it.
Da Box Chevy Phantom sez:
WTF? Just about everybody who grew up in Chicago knew rotten no good future ir#'s and the like... From day one in the academy you're warned about being careful of who/what you associate with. When it comes down to it, the powers that be don't care how you feel about the rules and regs...it will be a reasonable assumption that all police officers will know not just the words but what these words IMPLY.
Now she has a Captain jammed up because he, being aware of a rule violation did not initiate a C/R once his preliminary investigation revealed that this officer was in violation of rule 47. I understand trying to counsel a young officer but once he became aware of what a dim bulb she was he should've said "amf and yoyo... have a c/r, I'm not taking time for your dumb ass!"
I also figure that some bullshit about "I wanna ruffneck" will rear it's ugly head too... do not get me started about that!!
SO IF YOU KNOW CRIMINALS YOU ARE A CRIMINAL. GREAT LOGIC.
SO EVERY TIME AN OFFICER GETS CONVICTED OF WHATEVER WE CANT TALK TO THAT PERSON ANYMORE.
DOES THIS ALSO MEAN I CAN RUN WHOEVER I KNOW ON LEADS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS.
WHAT IF THE GUYS IS PARDONED? SILLY RULE IF THE OFFICER IS DIRTY THEN LOCK HIS ASS UP. IT IS A TRICK BAG RULE JUST LIKE THE RULE RELATED TO AN OFFICER NEVER BEING DRUNK EVEN IN HIS HOME.
Does rule 47 apply to the coppers that have rank in these gangs appears not.
While the St. Valentine's Day Massacre still remains uncleared, the reported shooters were Alberto Anselmi and John Scalise, two of Capone's Sicilian hit men. Both were attired in police uniforms.
It appears that Officer Sylvia Broadway is trying to lower the bar to the point where anything goes. Using the race card as an excuse is an unconscionable insult to our many outstanding police officers who happen to be black.
I am a white male cop. My very sexy personal hooker has a few convictions in the past. Is she considered an associate or just a person I am doing business with?
I am a police officer who does not have any felons as friends....and I don't want any!!! Keep this rule in effect!!! We don't need felons on the job and we don't need to associate with them either! It's about time the rightous ones finally prevailed on this job!!
Look at the recent female dectective that was a victim of an armed robbery (Area2), the second victim on the case report that she was with in the car is a guy convicted on 5 previous felony convictions! She was only robbed because she is out with the gangbanger at 4 am at some gangbanging bar. Its is a joke. And not one sgt. would say a thing when it was brought to their attention because she is a black female. I know if I was a victim of a robbery, loss my star and ID and the person I was with at 4 am in the car had the same past, I would be down at IAD being interviewed and also being called twice a month for pee tests.
Then again, Mayor Harold Washington was convicted for failure to pay his feferal taxes. Hard to tell one not to associate with the Mayor of the City. Maybe we just lift all the rules and laws. Let everyone do what they want. Its pretty much like that in the inner city anyhow.
Jesse Jackson, Mayor Daley and Geo. Bush were in a contest for the longest penis.
The judge of of the contest declared Jesse Jackson the winner, further stating, there is just no end to that prick!
I guess the drug urine test is also unfair to blacks do to the high drug use in the black community. Where does it end?
I only hope they lift the rule, do to my love for Paris Hilton and my deep desire to marry her one day! Otherwise I am going to have to settle with Rosey O'Donnell.
Some 8.4 percent of all black males ages 25 to 29 were in the U.S. prison population, according to a 2004 --------------------------SO WHAT ABOUT THE 91.6% THAT ARE NOT? THAT SHOULD BE AN INSULT TO ALL AFRICAN AMERICAN'S WHO ARE NOT. SO WHAT'S SHE SAYING, SHE CAN'T MEET A DECENT MAN BECAUSE MOST ARE ON PAROLE/CONVICTED OF A CRIME. TRY THIS: QUIT HANGING AROUND 57TH & CALUMET (ONE OF THE 002ND DISTRICT'S BIGGEST GANG/DOPE SPOTS....AND FIND BETTER COMPANY (THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ODDESSY 2 LOUNGE)......AND TO HAVE PAT HILL AS A BACK UP.......GOOD GRIEF.....FIRE HER ASS!!
Rule 47? huh?
What was she doing combing the rules and regulations just looking for something to sue over or did she do something to bring on the attention of IAD with a convicted felon? what’s the hole story?
(The officer argues the rule is more restrictive on black officers because of the disproportionate number of African Americans who have had contact with the criminal justice system)
... and their contact with the criminal justice system is whose fault ???
why would anyone want to hang out with a felon?
cr number OBTAINED/ISSUED against sgts being members of FOP Lodge 7 "another common sense" rule don't you think?
She's an idiot. If she can't find friends who aren't convicted felons then the she should quit or find new friends. I knew something was wrong when pat ( I don’t have to take the drug test) hill agreed with her.
I believe the rule about not being intoxicated on or off duty is blatantly against Irish-American officers and is un-Constitutional! I will be filing suit immediately!
I am a m/2 po and I understand what she's talking about. I have a good friend thats a convicted felon m/2 we grew up together. What do I do just drop him as a friend. What happen to paying your debt to society? Maybe she didnt know he was a felon until the w/c told her, because we all know you are not suppose to use clear for personal info. Before u guys bash me i understand why the rules are in place.
so THAT'S how the DOC reports end up in the gangbanger's houses!
Yeah, there's that area 3 det. who's married to a felon. (She married him when he got out of prison) But hey, she was a rat so its OK.
What a joke. I'm a white P.O. who had friends and family who have convictions Just the way it is. Guess what? It is that simple. And they are all white.
"SO WHAT ABOUT THE 91.6% THAT ARE NOT? "
Just a little statistics clarification. The 8.4% of M/1's between 25 and 29 are those who are in prison RIGHT NOW. Broadway would have to take a job as a jail guard to date them.
The percentages of those M/1's 25 to 29 who were in prison before age 25 are MUCH higher and therefore they are not publicly available. Then add on the astronomical percentages of M/1's age 0 to 150 who were convicted of a felony and given probation, served time and released, served time and are still serving. These statistics are VERY hard to find, but my best estimate is that it is slightly greater than 1 out 3 (1995 estimate), so about 40%, nationally.
I would safely estimate that the numbers in Cook Co. are higher than they are nationally, so lets say that in Cook Co. the rule blocks 50% of black men from dating PO Broadway.
I would say that yes, the rule is unfair, and that is just too bad.
Some one needs to get some gonads and show her the door to go out of and not return. Why not? The City just gives away money for all the law suits they give up on, this one they can win, but oh no, they would settle out of court and she'd walk away not needing to come back to work.
Recently we received about six SOS officers in our Southside dist. They are not beating their chest or telling war stories like people on here expect us to believe. They just go out and work and that's it. I've seen them backing people up on traffic and street stops and in progress calls out there.
I don't believe the shit about them wearing a wire either? They just go out and work like the rest of us.
The only thing I can say is there is talk that they are ALL bidding out to a nicer dist. That was obvious with all the par forms being filled out. Who could blame them on that? I'd go in a FLASH too!!!
Look at the recent female dectective that was a victim of an armed robbery (Area2), the second victim on the case report that she was with in the car is a guy convicted on 5 previous felony convictions! She was only robbed because she is out with the gangbanger at 4 am at some gangbanging bar. Its is a joke. And not one sgt. would say a thing when it was brought to their attention because she is a black female. I know if I was a victim of a robbery, loss my star and ID and the person I was with at 4 am in the car had the same past, I would be down at IAD being interviewed and also being called twice a month for pee tests.
Two corrections; it was more like 1 in the morning, and it was in front of her house
SO EVERY TIME AN OFFICER GETS CONVICTED OF WHATEVER WE CANT TALK TO THAT PERSON ANYMORE.
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DUH!!!
What happen to paying your debt to society? Maybe she didnt know he was a felon until the w/c told her, because we all know you are not suppose to use clear for personal info. Before u guys bash me i understand why the rules are in place.
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YOU'RE RIGHT MAYBE SHE DIDN'T KNOW AT FIRST, THAT WHY SHE WAS NOT DISCIPLINED. BUT WHEN IT WAS EXPLAINED TO HER, SHE THROWS OUT THE RACE CARD. 57TH & CALUMET IS A BIG DOPE BLOCK - WHO'S SHE HANGING OUT WITH? NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT SHE MAYBE PATROLLING OVER THERE - YOU CAN'T SEE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU KNEW WHEN YOU SIGNED UP FOR THIS JOB THAT YOU CANNOT KNOWINGLY CAVORT WITH CRIMINALS - IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT SOMEONE'S PAST - NO PROBLEM. BUT ONCE YOUR MADE AWARE - SORRY, BUT FIND A NEW FRIEND....
I THINK THE RULE THAT WE CANNOT OWN A TAVERN IS UNFAIR. LET HER DATE FELONS, LET ME OWN A BAR. SOUND GOOD TO ME.
Everyone is missing the point. Very few currently on the job or retired have ever done LESS police work than this female "P.O" A poster child of a wasted salary. A truely worthless officer. I beg you ask anyone who knows her
Here's a good topic:
I wonder how many SOS officers who claim to be the "REAL DEAL" are going to stay in the shitty Southside districts they were dumped into? Seriously, all we've heard is how great the SOS unit once was, but are these officers up to the test like that of the regular joes in the district? Can they handle 8 hrs. of work the way we all have for years? It will be interesting to hear from the other district officers on the blog to see which SOS guys stayed in the dist they were dumped to as opposed to fleeing for safer pastures? I mean, come on, we all know who these guys are by now?
My guess is that if they got sent to shitty districts, they are trying like hell to bid out! I'm hearing 001 and 018 are the favorite bids. Even the watch commanders are placing friendly wagers on these former SOS bidding out.
-Southside tact guy
That rule ruined my relationship with Gregory Shell.
What's with all of these SOS guys coming to the patrol divison with "bump cards" so they can wear full beards and fu manchu style mustaches?
I guess everyone should put in "bump cards" now? Great role models for younger po's.
-CPD supervisor
Anonymous said...
Its a good rule, it keeps us safer and keeps our minds on the law and unmarred by the evil element.
10/15/2007 12:56:00 AM
heeheeheehee thats funny!
I also doesn't help when this department continues to hire thugs and shitheads who act like gangbangers. They made it through because they were lucky enough not to catch a felony case before becoming the police. What kind of background check does CPD do? Just because somebody has no arrest convictions, you can still look into who they associate with / lifestyle they live, and discover the thugery they are inovolved in. Have any of you ever seen the thugs who act like gangbangers, talk like shitheads, cock their police hats to the side, etc; etc; who work in some of these districts (003, 005, 010 to name a few). It's really pointless to enforce rule 47 when the city hires criminals to be the police. These thug cops I'm referring to would never get hired in the suburbs / state / Feds. Only CPD picks up this crap and gives them a job.
I am so sick of the race card. There are plenty of law abiding men you can shack up with for your booty calls. This same mentality is clearly exhibited by “who let the dogs out” Michael Vick. The guy is literally making millions, is set for life, and probably would have been inducted into the hall of fame, but decided to hang with the hommies from the hood and look what happened to him. The problem with people like this officer and the idiot that is defending her from this “injustice perpetrated on the sistas of dis department” is they will never understand why this rule is in place. Plain and simple ignorance. I would have better success teaching Michael Vick’s dogs trigonometry than having these morons understand the reason/concept of this rule. WOOF.
This is the same mentality that has people living in the Ickes for 35 years. DUHHHHHHHH
Why is she not FIRED! Matt the former supt was forced to resign for doing the same things guess different rules apply to a female black officer?
look at daley he hangs out with many felons but it is ok because he is "above the law"
what about daleys idea to give felons city jobs to help them get back on their feet you know to steal,kill again!
This town stinks like a whorehouse at low tide.
Recently we received about six SOS officers in our Southside dist. They are not beating their chest or telling war stories like people on here expect us to believe. They just go out and work and that's it. I've seen them backing people up on traffic and street stops and in progress calls out there.
I don't believe the shit about them wearing a wire either? They just go out and work like the rest of us.
The only thing I can say is there is talk that they are ALL bidding out to a nicer dist. That was obvious with all the par forms being filled out. Who could blame them on that? I'd go in a FLASH too!!!
We got some downtown, too. All of them have been pretty cool and it's nice to get the back-up on traffic and street stops. But mostly we're just glad to have the extra bodies so we can actually have some 2-man cars on 3rd watch (for a change!) and get time due when needed. Their whole unit got a bad rap for the misdeeds of a few, and you'd be surprised at how many of them don't even have any clout whatsoever to land in a cushy spot.
That idiot needs a boyfriend with a better lawyer. The rule states "convicted felon." There are lots of guys with long rap sheets and no convictions. If that doesn't work bid to 009. It's like match.com there from the commander down to the ppo's.
I'm Italian and I find that I can't have a glass of wine with my meal discriminatory.
ghost ride the whip, ghost ride the whip....Now Put your Stunna shades on!!
8:46 poster It shows the type of character these guys from SOS have. Not! What's the matter boys? You cannot hang with the lowly beat guys? Does the idea of backlogs and 1/2 lunches scare you? We all know how you are used to eating 1 1/2 lunches at quality places downtown. Hmmm...Bidding out? Reality has struck in...
If SOS guys are working, then you are lucky. Many have resorted to doing zilch for the dept. They are useless as tits on a bull. These cowboys don't impress me at all. What a waste to put them in the districts. Their attitudes really SUCK!!!
I'm Polish and I find the policy that I can't be drunk and stupid while off-duty to be discriminatory.
If a felon has not been active for 7-10 years, you have to ask yourself why. Something tells me that felon had been locked up for that time period and did not have a chance to get back into the swing of things. I do not agree with the amendment of that rule.
I am a m/2 po and I understand what she's talking about. I have a good friend thats a convicted felon m/2 we grew up together. What do I do just drop him as a friend. What happen to paying your debt to society? Maybe she didnt know he was a felon until the w/c told her, because we all know you are not suppose to use clear for personal info. Before u guys bash me i understand why the rules are in place.
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Shouldn't you know the company you keep before you start keeping company????
I have never used the sytem to query a potential date/mate, but I sure ask a lot of questions to find out their past!
People to pay their debt to society and I can't see holding it against someone who was say... 17 and are now 27 with a clear record for 10 years but, I don't make the rules.
Maybe this PO should find a job in the public sector where they don't have rules & regs about felons.
would say that yes, the rule is unfair, and that is just too bad.
BUT I am sure that you could find someone to say that EVERY and ANY rule is unfair, especially if it is enforced. The TRUTH is that the rule HAS BEEN IN EFFECT and WAS in effect when she came on the job, therefor, whether or not it is fair is a moot point, especially if she knowingly violated it. If she didn't know the guy was a felon, then I guess it is breakup time??
What do I do just drop him as a friend.
YES, or drop the job.
I have a friend from childhood-- 25 years a friend actually- and he is a convicted hype. Had a great job, making much more than I am, but prefered heroin to keeping that job. Started writing fake perscriptions, stealing, and getting arrested on the west side a few too many times. HE even knows I cant associate with him and he accepts it as well. He is now an intervention counselor, but too bad, I cant associate with him and dont. What can you do- they stressed it enough in the academy- so there was no surprise about it. Make new friends- it happens.
Rules are in place for a reason just like laws I don't care if you are white or black if you don't like it there is the door, don't let it hit you in the ass, or fight it and win and set me up to move out of the city because its hard to find a neighborhood that is white and affordable in this city.
What do I do just drop him as a friend?
Ummmmm--- YES!! You knew this before you started. get a different job or drop him. Its that easy. Unless of course YOURE pulling the race card too.
Two corrections; it was more like 1 in the morning, and it was in front of her house
10/15/2007 08:49:00 AM
does it matter ? she still broke the rules, any white male p.o. would be hung by his nut sack for having a crackhead, 20x over convicted retail theft offender felon in his car if he was caught. different rules for different folks because "she" will sue if the dept. goes forward with any disciplinary action. the former supe was made to retire for this same action, she should be left alone ???? FUCK NO !!!!!!!
I don't get it. I come from a borderline white trash background but managed to not get arrested growing up. Since becoming the police, i no longer associate with people who are likely to do anything to get arrested. This is a mix of common sense and an awareness of the rules governing our job. Can borderline white trash guys like me join the suit if we can demonstrate a "damage" in that we can longer associate we former friends/ family. If we are not permitted to have a bona fide grievance because we are not black, even though, we can demonstrate our origins among criminally minded rabble, is that not race discrimination in and of itself?
Hope the rule is overturned. I've seen some hot womenz in my days in the ghetto.
THAT IS WHY I ONLY ASSOCIATE WITH SEISER, HE HAS NO CRIMINAL BACKROUND, BUT ASKED ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN NEW YORK CITY, THEY WILL TELL THIS, THE FIVE FAMILIES DO NOT RUN IT BUT SEISER DOES.
PS SEISER WAS BORN IN NEW YORK, NY.
Do any of these SOS guys not have a chip on their shoulder? They get dumped to us and now they refuse to work? Get over yourselves already!
The sun does not rise and fall in your presence. Quit acting like the spoiled fucking brats you are!
-004 copper
Anonymous said...
why would anyone want to hang out with a felon?
10/15/2007 04:41:00 AM
They got da bling and dat killa weed!
In all my years as a Chicago police officer I have never heard anything as racist as this...when will it end?? For some people your gender and / or race seems to be a factor in your lifes downfalls or success...it's not 1968 anymore folks...grow up...rules are rules..It's not my problem that black people are incarcerated more than white people or hispanic people etc...so where does that validate your disobedience for the law or rules set forth long before you joined this department?? I am SICK and TIRED of certain races playing the race card for their personal gain/advantage..It is just sick...I say fire her ass or give her time for bringing discredit to the department...you know the rules and you need to follow the rules otherwise get another fucking job,period! Race has NOTHING to do with YOUR decision...you need to learn how to fucking to read and follow rules "officer".
Anonymous said...
Some one needs to get some gonads and show her the door to go out of and not return. Why not? The City just gives away money for all the law suits they give up on, this one they can win, but oh no, they would settle out of court and she'd walk away not needing to come back to work.
10/15/2007 08:44:00 AM
She'll be a merit sgt in no time!
10 10/15/2007 @ 6:45am...you are a GOOF!!
She should be FIRED!
It appears that Officer Sylvia Broadway is trying to lower the bar to the point where anything goes. Using the race card as an excuse is an unconscionable insult to our many outstanding police officers who happen to be black.
10/15/2007 01:56:00 AM
Ahhh, the deuce! Gotta love it!
Anonymous said...
I am a m/2 po and I understand what she's talking about. I have a good friend thats a convicted felon m/2 we grew up together. What do I do just drop him as a friend. What happen to paying your debt to society? Maybe she didnt know he was a felon until the w/c told her, because we all know you are not suppose to use clear for personal info. Before u guys bash me i understand why the rules are in place.
10/15/2007 06:45:00 AM
NO. You continue to be buddies. Just like we drink in bars, speed, fart in church, whatever. The difference is that you DON'T DISCUSS IT WITH YOUR CAPTAIN. Good lord. is this really that hard?
I would think that the comments made by this officer would be seen as a TOTAL insult to Black police officers. Come on - the race card is GONE!!!!!
IAD needs to look into the two f/4 scumbags in 014 on 3rd watch they f*** gang members.
Anonymous said...
I am a m/2 po and I understand what she's talking about. I have a good friend thats a convicted felon m/2 we grew up together. What do I do just drop him as a friend. What happen to paying your debt to society? Maybe she didnt know he was a felon until the w/c told her, because we all know you are not suppose to use clear for personal info. Before u guys bash me i understand why the rules are in place.
10/15/2007 06:45:00 AM
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Look at the recent female dectective that was a victim of an armed robbery (Area2), the second victim on the case report that she was with in the car is a guy convicted on 5 previous felony convictions! She was only robbed because she is out with the gangbanger at 4 am at some gangbanging bar. Its is a joke. And not one sgt. would say a thing when it was brought to their attention because she is a black female. I know if I was a victim of a robbery, loss my star and ID and the person I was with at 4 am in the car had the same past, I would be down at IAD being interviewed and also being called twice a month for pee tests
Not saying it is right or wrong but unless the department can PROVE you knew the person was a convicted felon the CR will never be sustained. Prove as in you are dumb enough to run the person like a Sgt in 011. She took time and then married the guy. City cant do anything now its her husband. I don't think a person should be punished for felony convictions from years ago.
Can you guys quit locking your guns inside of vehicles and thinking it is SECURE. When your car is broken into, and the gun is stolen you will be SUSPENDED, no questions asked. Inside a locked vehicle is NOT SECURE PERIOD. Locked in a locked container inside a locked car IS NOT SECURE. Locked in the glove compartment in a locked car, is NOT SECURE PERIOD. PASS THE WORD.
I am a m/2 po and I understand what she's talking about. I have a good friend thats a convicted felon m/2 we grew up together. What do I do just drop him as a friend. What happen to paying your debt to society? Maybe she didnt know he was a felon until the w/c told her, because we all know you are not suppose to use clear for personal info. Before u guys bash me i understand why the rules are in place.
you sound like one that feel trhu the cracks.
first. of all you didnt need to say you are a m/2 that doesn't matter.
second. yes you do just drop him as a friend.
third. convicted felon well im pretty sure you aren't a convicted felon, and if you grew up together how come you didnt help him say out of trouble some friend you are and can't you find anyone on the police dept to play with you.
fourth. paying your debt to society, he can just with other CONVICTED FELONS.
Fifth and final. you can use i clear to run people you just can't sell that info you DUMBFUCK.
I don't know who she worked for in 002, but this is a good example of why some good bosses stop going out of their way for coppers. Whoever she worked for tried to help her, but he or she got it stuck right up their moon. As a male white with time on this job, who has had friends that were dubious, I will say that she should be fired. Her comments are an insult to all of the good and decent black people both on and off of this job. Any black officers care to comment?
Look at the recent female dectective that was a victim of an armed robbery (Area2), the second victim on the case report that she was with in the car is a guy convicted on 5 previous felony convictions! She was only robbed because she is out with the gangbanger at 4 am at some gangbanging bar. Its is a joke. And not one sgt. would say a thing when it was brought to their attention because she is a black female. I know if I was a victim of a robbery, loss my star and ID and the person I was with at 4 am in the car had the same past, I would be down at IAD being interviewed and also being called twice a month for pee tests.
10/15/2007 02:31:00 AM
Exactly...is there a name or slogan for THAT? If you are a person of color everyone is afraid to touch it or the rules don't apply at all. Two standards, plain and simple. WTF?
And not one sgt. would say a thing when it was brought to their attention because she is a black female.
What does her being a black female have to do with anything, and how do we know she knew his felonious past? What exactly was the sgt supposed to say???
DOES THIS ALSO MEAN I CAN RUN WHOEVER I KNOW ON LEADS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT CRIMINALS.
Read the order about "running people" and you will realize the answer is NO. Better yet ask people who have taken time for doing it...you know Jane Doe was arrested and run her to read the arrest report. You just violated the general order!
Someone in administration please tell this f/1 officer that she is f*ckin nuts and the rules can't be changed just because she has poor judgment on m/1 friends and m/1 lovers. If she doesn't like it she can resign and take that b*tch pat hill with her. I can't believe all the crap this is happening in this dept, this city, county and state.
It all turning ghetto before our eyes.
Is there a discriminatory impact? Yes. Does the Department have a compelling interest in preventing police fraternizing with cons? Yes.
Even the most liberal court cannot rule for this woman. She will lose and lose fast!
She will win in the end though: The city will just promote her to Sgt, Lt, Capt. etc.
Just found out my old lady took a pinch for a joint of weed when seh was in college at SIU. I told her, sorry honey, time to hit the road, I can't be with you no more! Damn, this is the greatest rule I ever heard of! PS Single women may email me now!
Here is my story.
My Mother is a convicted prositute
My Dad served time for car thefts
My sister is a rock head with 6 kids.
My one brother is a cross-dressing guy who loves to inter-racially date guys.
My other brother is a famous Chicago Cubs player.
I met a really nice woman and wonder if I should be honest with her and tell her my brother plays for the CUBS because if I do, she may drop me.
Thug Love is the Best Love!
Is there a discriminatory impact? Yes. Does the Department have a compelling interest in preventing police fraternizing with cons? Yes.
Even the most liberal court cannot rule for this woman. She will lose and lose fast!
10/15/2007 08:57:00 PM
It will never go to trial. The city is afraid to take the gamble.
Let me be the first to say that the racist view point here is from the officer alledging the racism. As a white police officer why can't I have a lot of african american friends? I guess in her opinion we should all just stay with the same race when it comes to friends.
the rule actually states:
Associating or fraternizing with any person known to have been convicted of any felony or misdemeanor, either State or Federal, excluding traffic and municipal ordinance violations and any quarterback currently with the Chicago Bears.
I hope that all of you realize that all of this is utterly meaningless. All of this Who knows who, who got dumped where, whose an a**hole, what a dummy this or that boss is, District guys talking bad about specialized units, units filled with clout babies, the "scandal of the day"...be it Cops drinking and then driving home (like 95% of all people at bars including members of the media), coppers working midnights sleeping on the lakefront, SOS, coppers actually stopping people in the projects while trying to make the area safer (oh the inhumanity!), alderman getting tickets...you get the idea.
At the end of your tour (and I'm not talking about the next shift you work), at the END OF YOUR TOUR, do you know where you're going? I do...and its not in this department, this city, this country, or this world.
Got no clout? No problem. No phone call? No problem. This "spot" is open to everyone. And it doesn't require a PAR form or even hard work for that matter. The work has been done...the price has been paid (no, not a payoff). It just takes one decision, one acceptance, one affirmation on your part. (What in the heck is this guy talking about? Humor me for a moment...I’ll get to the point.)
I've worked in a handful of districts and some units (I’m getting kind of older now), I've gone around the clock with my Watch (back when a Watch had some pride and competed with the other Watches), worked straight mids, days, and afternoons. I've seen a lot of coppers come and go...many retire and enjoy themselves for years, unfortunately I seen too many retire and die within months or before they got their first check. I've seen coppers get fired, get indicted, drink themselves to death, eat their guns, get pissed off and pissed on, shot, stabbed, killed and maimed. I've seen some great men and women do this job. I've seen a lot of joy, a lot of good times, a lot of camaraderie, and a lot of stuff that makes grown men cry. I've seen a lot of guys and gals do their best and actually make a difference. I've seen dogs do nothing for 20 years...and brag about it. I’ve seen bosses cursed by those dogs and applauded by the workers, I’ve seen some real leaders and I’ve seen some very poor examples of leadership. I've seen some good coppers get well deserved awards and others never get recognition for a job well done.
But in the end, it is all utterly meaningless, IF they didn't know where they were going at the end of their Watch. Sometimes this blog makes me laugh...but most of the time it hurts me. Why? Because (call me strange) I honestly like other coppers. I honestly like the people that have chosen this profession along with me. But the stuff that I read...the words that WE write for the whole world to see...the stuff that WE say about each other, it kills me. We talk smack about guys that deep down inside we know would risk their own lives to come when we call a 10-1. We slander each other for the whole world to see...then we talk about how much we care about “our brothers and sisters in blue”...then we relish the moment when one of them screws up big time. What are we bi-polar? What has this job become? Why do we give the media and so many others so much ammunition to use against us...and you’re a complete idiot if you don’t realize that the media and others read this everyday. Is this how we help other coppers? Beat them down, scribble on the “cyber” bathroom walls for all the world to see...at least in the stations only we read the stuff that we wrote on the bathroom walls. I digress.
This job and this life have shown me one thing...I better care about other people. And I care about YOU (the Police...The Chicago Police...Chicago’s Finest). And I want YOU and a whole bunch of other coppers (with all of their faults and shortcomings) and their families to be with me and my family in the “ultimate spot” for ever and ever. Check out this site: www.needhim.org/
Stay safe and keep backing each other up.
Signed,
Just 1 out of 13,500
Bottom line: white or black,male or female, none of it matters when it comes to CR#'s,G.O.'s and rules and regs.What matters is if you got the right connection on this job be it political or within the department you can literally get away with murder. That is a fact and maybe someday a smart good lawyer defending a copper will be able to reveal that this department has never been "fair and impartial" regarding discipline. The proof is out there but the balless FOP and PBPA will never take this to court. So those with no clout will always get the severe discipline and those with clout will be allowed to continue their bullshit until one day the Feds catch them or the media does and then those with clout get fucked too. Does this all sound familiar?????
Anonymous said...
Can you guys quit locking your guns inside of vehicles and thinking it is SECURE. When your car is broken into, and the gun is stolen you will be SUSPENDED, no questions asked. Inside a locked vehicle is NOT SECURE PERIOD. Locked in a locked container inside a locked car IS NOT SECURE. Locked in the glove compartment in a locked car, is NOT SECURE PERIOD. PASS THE WORD.
10/15/2007 05:05:00 PM
So what do you do with it? Smuggle it into great america so it falls out in a loop de loop? Stick it in my jock at the beach? (there's plenty of room, but that's not the point!!!)A day or two is a great tradeoff for safety to and from wherever I'm going that I can't carry. How about I continue to put it in the glove box, and when the car is stolen, I simply take my day or two and go golfing? Fore!! DONT SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF!!
Anonymous said...
Is there a discriminatory impact? Yes. Does the Department have a compelling interest in preventing police fraternizing with cons? Yes.
Even the most liberal court cannot rule for this woman. She will lose and lose fast!
10/15/2007 08:57:00 PM
It will never go to trial. The city is afraid to take the gamble.
10/15/2007 09:43:00 PM
I hear she's from 002, which has a long tradition of this crap.
you sound like one that feel trhu the cracks.
first. of all you didnt need to say you are a m/2 that doesn't matter.
second. yes you do just drop him as a friend.
third. convicted felon well im pretty sure you aren't a convicted felon, and if you grew up together how come you didnt help him say out of trouble some friend you are and can't you find anyone on the police dept to play with you.
fourth. paying your debt to society, he can just with other CONVICTED FELONS.
Fifth and final. you can use i clear to run people you just can't sell that info you
First of all lets use spell check every now and then huh.
second I did need to say I'm a m/2 just to show u asshat it's not just a black thing.
third well we all know no matter how much direction or help to a person they some times fall.
Fourth If you ever pick up GO u would you that you can't use clear or any other police system for personal use you 1 year wonder
My son-in-law is a convicted felon! It pisses my wife off, but I cite rule 47 every Thanksgiving and Christmas! He cant come to the house if I'm home! I'm dreading retirement.
RULES @ REGULATION FUND RAISER
Hey how about Cedric the ladies man
merit sergeant from the fightin 003rd District. Old cedric meets his true luv after she spends 20 plus hours at the area 2 motel/hotel as a witness to a homicide. Old ced was a dick at the time. Well ced takes off with the new cheese cake and leaves the wife. The new lady has the wife locked up..... Now ceds honey is the victim and she called the police first so you know she is tellin the truth.
The court date rolls around and the new lady appears in court displaying her genitial by wearin a short dress just covering up her waist. The case goes to trail and the future ex mrs ced is found not guilty. Ced berates a witness in front of the judge, and off course he is identified as a p/o.
Ced is showin off in front of the younger lady the former witness with a CPD IR number.
Poor ced gets in a jam, but not to worry. Merit Sgt Ced is placed in call back.
Merit Sgt. Milty is havin a fund raiser for old ced.
free admission to any p/o who brings a significant other who has an IR or a past conviction.
How about the F/4 in 14 that has a habit of shooting her boyfriends?
Anonymous said...
I hope that all of you realize that all of this is utterly meaningless. All of this Who knows who, who got dumped where, whose an a**hole, what a dummy this or that boss is, District guys talking bad about specialized units, units filled with clout babies, the "scandal of the day"...be it Cops drinking and then driving home (like 95% of all people at bars including members of the media), coppers working midnights sleeping on the lakefront, SOS, coppers actually stopping people in the projects while trying to make the area safer (oh the inhumanity!), alderman getting tickets...you get the idea.
At the end of your tour (and I'm not talking about the next shift you work), at the END OF YOUR TOUR, do you know where you're going? I do...and its not in this department, this city, this country, or this world.
Got no clout? No problem. No phone call? No problem. This "spot" is open to everyone. And it doesn't require a PAR form or even hard work for that matter. The work has been done...the price has been paid (no, not a payoff). It just takes one decision, one acceptance, one affirmation on your part. (What in the heck is this guy talking about? Humor me for a moment...I’ll get to the point.)
I've worked in a handful of districts and some units (I’m getting kind of older now), I've gone around the clock with my Watch (back when a Watch had some pride and competed with the other Watches), worked straight mids, days, and afternoons. I've seen a lot of coppers come and go...many retire and enjoy themselves for years, unfortunately I seen too many retire and die within months or before they got their first check. I've seen coppers get fired, get indicted, drink themselves to death, eat their guns, get pissed off and pissed on, shot, stabbed, killed and maimed. I've seen some great men and women do this job. I've seen a lot of joy, a lot of good times, a lot of camaraderie, and a lot of stuff that makes grown men cry. I've seen a lot of guys and gals do their best and actually make a difference. I've seen dogs do nothing for 20 years...and brag about it. I’ve seen bosses cursed by those dogs and applauded by the workers, I’ve seen some real leaders and I’ve seen some very poor examples of leadership. I've seen some good coppers get well deserved awards and others never get recognition for a job well done.
But in the end, it is all utterly meaningless, IF they didn't know where they were going at the end of their Watch. Sometimes this blog makes me laugh...but most of the time it hurts me. Why? Because (call me strange) I honestly like other coppers. I honestly like the people that have chosen this profession along with me. But the stuff that I read...the words that WE write for the whole world to see...the stuff that WE say about each other, it kills me. We talk smack about guys that deep down inside we know would risk their own lives to come when we call a 10-1. We slander each other for the whole world to see...then we talk about how much we care about “our brothers and sisters in blue”...then we relish the moment when one of them screws up big time. What are we bi-polar? What has this job become? Why do we give the media and so many others so much ammunition to use against us...and you’re a complete idiot if you don’t realize that the media and others read this everyday. Is this how we help other coppers? Beat them down, scribble on the “cyber” bathroom walls for all the world to see...at least in the stations only we read the stuff that we wrote on the bathroom walls. I digress.
This job and this life have shown me one thing...I better care about other people. And I care about YOU (the Police...The Chicago Police...Chicago’s Finest). And I want YOU and a whole bunch of other coppers (with all of their faults and shortcomings) and their families to be with me and my family in the “ultimate spot” for ever and ever. Check out this site: www.needhim.org/
Stay safe and keep backing each other up.
Signed,
Just 1 out of 13,500
10/15/2007 10:36:00 PM
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AWESOME POST!!!!!! I wish more people would see our situation in this way. I applaud you for speaking your views even though they are views that will be laughed at on this blog. I am with you - you stated the BOTTOM LINE!!! Nothing else matters.
Thank you for sharing that, hang in there and I am so glad to see that there are others on this great job who see things the way I do. Stay safe!!!
Jesse Jackson, Mayor Daley and Geo. Bush were in a contest for the longest penis.
The judge of of the contest declared Jesse Jackson the winner, further stating, there is just no end to that prick!
That was GREAT!!!!!!!! I just pissed myself laughing so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's with all of these SOS guys coming to the patrol divison with "bump cards" so they can wear full beards and fu manchu style mustaches?
I guess everyone should put in "bump cards" now? Great role models for younger po's.
-CPD supervisor
As a Supervisor you should know that a full beard is OK but they can not have a "fu manchu style mustach" per the general order even with a "bump card." Your a boss, step up and act like one. Confront the "fu manchu" wearing officer and tell him it's all or nothing. Part, not all just part, of the problem in SOS was supervisors not stepping up and confronting the problem before it got out of hand.
TO: 10/15/2007 05:08:00 PM You CANNOT use ICLEAR or LEADS to run people for personal reasons. It is state law. You can be FIRED for using it for personal reasons. DO NOT DO IT!
Jeez, my father was arrested for being in a gambling house years ago. (called a bookie joint then) Damn, I sure will miss holidays with Dad but you know, rules is rules. I must abide by Rule 47.
I think this rule discriminates against Italian-Americans because, well, you know, The Godfather and all, Joey the Clown, Tony Big Tuna etc.
I don't know how to break the news to Dad that I can't associate with him because of that gambling arrest.
Hey, would this rule also apply to the police family of those two Mexican-American people who were busted by the fed for manufacturing and selling phone ID's? And what about their Alderman son? Lot's of family gatherings will be missing loved ones this holiday season thanks to this rule.
But the City is legit as everyone knows. I am sure Daley cut ties immediately to all felons in his extended family as soon as they were arrested or convicted. Yeah, sure.
6:08 has a point! If these cowboys want to look like Wyatt Earp, then definitely say something. The beards are covered in the regulations, as long as a bump card is on hand. Fu manchu staches have no leg to stand on.
SOS and it's supervisors always did what they wanted and dressed like they wanted...it's time to end that saga. You're in the districts now gentlemen. Act accordingly.
First of all lets use spell check every now and then huh.
second I did need to say I'm a m/2 just to show u asshat it's not just a black thing.
third well we all know no matter how much direction or help to a person they some times fall.
Fourth If you ever pick up GO u would you that you can't use clear or any other police system for personal use you 1 year wonder
10/16/2007 12:49:00 AM
and what g.o # would that be you p.p.o.
Just a little statistics clarification. The 8.4% of M/1's between 25 and 29 are those who are in prison RIGHT NOW. Broadway would have to take a job as a jail guard to date them.
The percentages of those M/1's 25 to 29 who were in prison before age 25 are MUCH higher and therefore they are not publicly available.----------------------------THAT'S TOO MUCH MATH.....KEEP IT SIMPLE, HOW ABOUT IF SHE CONTINUES TO HANG AROUND WITH FELONS, WE SHOULD FIRE 100% OF HER ASS.
Hey, would this rule also apply to the police family of those two Mexican-American people who were busted by the fed for manufacturing and selling phone ID's? And what about their Alderman son? Lot's of family gatherings will be missing loved ones this holiday season thanks to this rule.
I don't think the rule applies to immediate family members... plus it really isn't a good thing to hang out with known felons for lots of reasons, even if you aren't the police, but if you are, it opens the door to plenty of bad stuff, which I am sure most of us would rather avoid...
I would say that yes, the rule is unfair, and that is just too bad.
The rule is NOT unfair, EVERYONE is notified of it during about the first week of the academy, if not before. If you can't comply, you are FREE TO QUIT. There is no reason why you can't comply.
I don't believe that a majority of middle class black men have been convicted of crimes, but even so, if you are hetero or homo or bi sexual, I believe the majority of the population at large has NOT been convicted of any crime.
Statistics also show that something like 5% of the population commits 80% of all crimes...
THE RULE IS NOT UNFAIR
What's with all of these SOS guys coming to the patrol divison with "bump cards" so they can wear full beards and fu manchu style mustaches?
I guess everyone should put in "bump cards" now? Great role models for younger po's.
-CPD supervisor
If they have a bump card they can wear a full beard, but it must be trimmed to something like 1/4 or 1/2 ilnch. FU MANCHU mustaches, CUT IT OFF, there is NO BUMP car that allows that, mustache cannot extend beyond the outer corners of the mouth, nor be longer than the top of the lip....
I don't think a person should be punished for felony convictions from years ago.
10/15/2007 05:02:00 PM
The person with the felony conviction isn't being punished.
Also, this is a protection for officers IF THEY FOLLOW THE RULE, it can keep you out of trouble... try it sometime...
If SOS guys are working, then you are lucky. Many have resorted to doing zilch for the dept. They are useless as tits on a bull. These cowboys don't impress me at all. What a waste to put them in the districts. Their attitudes really SUCK!!!
Why would i do anything for the dept???? For a minute just think what would your attitude be if you were treated like us. We were dumped, (not a big deal we knew it was coming), but the way the city did it was fuc**NG ruthless. Some of us had partners for three, four five or more years, and the city split us up. Roll call on wed oct 10th, the commander came in, and read off your name, and if you answered he told you where you were going. Alot of guys had to go to work that night. We had less than 24 hours to pack our stuff, and go to our district. some n/siders went south, some
s/siders went north. After working for so many years and getting the arrests that we did, we got no thanks, the city blind sided us. That is why we are doing zilch for the city my friend!!! Most of the SOS guys are great po's and hard working. They will back YOU up, and do their paper, but if you think for one minute I'm gonna write parkers, or movers or do anything else for the city, your an idiot. My attitude does suck, but towards the city, not you or any other po i work next to now. I WILL BACK UP ANY PO IN A HEARTBEAT, and that goes for any guy or gal that was in SOS. we will do our paper, no big deal...Don't confuse that with laziness. The city FU@%ED me, why should i do anything for them. I went to a southside district, and everyone, with the exception of one or two, has accepted me. I'm glad they didn't have your attitude!!! "I'm not impressed???" is what you said...we've been in the district for four or five days...did you impress anyone in your district the first four or five days you were there??? you haven't even given us a chance! You'll see that most sos guys and gals are great po's, maybe even better than the po's who have been working next to you. Don't be closed minded, you're only gonna piss yourself off. As for the po's in the districts that have accepted us, I can speak for all former SOS by saying "THANK YOU!!!"
I have a question:
Since I've never met the man, does SEISER pronounce his name size-er or seize-er (Hail Caesar)?
Inquiring minds wanna know.
Either was, I'm still sure that SEISER truly runs it.
Broadway is a lazy do-nothing. She has been with that guy for a while and knows from other PO's in the District that he throws dope. The constuction job is just a bs cover story.
IAD bring some coppers from her watch down and ask a few hard questions. Don't drop the ball on this waste of a paycheck. There is many excelent POS in 002, she is one of the bottom feeders.
then don't join the police if its that big of a problem. This is not just a job. This is law enforcement.
without ?, a great post.
That asshole, dog, pos, guy who makes fun of me, idiots, can't write paper, never around. Will be there on my 10-1.
Signed,
Just 1 out of 13,500
10/15/2007 10:36:00 PM
My friend, i wish that you signed this post! because after being moved to tears, i would like to come and meet you & be able to call you my friend! very well said. its nice to know that there are still people on the job that actually think before thay post something on here. and its nice to know that some coppers still care. i didnt want to go here, but being from SOS, you brougt up a great point. to all the negative statements about us SOS cops, i cant think of one cop in that unit that wouldnt bust ass to help another copper calling for help! my partner of 6years and i would always stop when we saw another car on a stop or a job. and we didnt give a crap what unit/district/country or wherever they were from. BLUE IS BLUE! its a shame when the rest of the world is against us, that we dont stick together more!!! thanks for your time and the above mentioned post. take care, God bless & stay strong my brothers & sisters in blue. & always remember 153!!!
While the St. Valentine's Day Massacre still remains uncleared, the reported shooters were Alberto Anselmi and John Scalise, two of Capone's Sicilian hit men. Both were attired in police john scalise is a dick in a/4 he is 92 years olds and still cant get fingered
why would anyone want to hang out with a felon?
cheap plasma tv a little hot but what do u want for 100 bucks
Jesse Jackson said...
When in Doubt,
Whip the race card out!
10/15/2007 12:08:00 AM
Hillarious! LOVE IT!
10/15/2007 10:36:00 PM
You sir, are absolutely correct. Thank you. This has been the only thing worth reading on the blog in ages. Keep your eye on the prize and all else will follow. See you someday-
Fellow copper buried on the south side
10/15 9:57Pm
Excellent point!!
...and what g.o # would that be you p.p.o...
Not a PPO says:
HOW ABOUT GO 98-7 AND ITS ADDENDA SMARTY PANTS!!!
Watch out guys! Recently retired "political activist" and half assed PO Pat Hill plans to go around to the districts to sell her recently published memoirs.
One can only guess what this lazy, do nothing empty holster would have to write about. And who the fuck would want to read it anyway?
Well, I'm white, and furious. How come SHE should get to hang out with felons? I DEMAND that the department institutes an affirmative action policy where if you don't have a felon to cavort with, one will be provided for you, just to make it fair. A take a GD home from work program! "Hi honey, C-Lo and I are home! What's for dinner?" or "no, I don't need a ride to work today babe, thanks... Lil Ray is picking me up in his hoopty"
Anonymous said...
...and what g.o # would that be you p.p.o...
Not a PPO says:
HOW ABOUT GO 98-7 AND ITS ADDENDA SMARTY PANTS!!!
10/16/2007 10:55:00 PM
Y A W N
Anonymous said...
Just found out my old lady took a pinch for a joint of weed when seh was in college at SIU. I told her, sorry honey, time to hit the road, I can't be with you no more! Damn, this is the greatest rule I ever heard of! PS Single women may email me now!
10/15/2007 09:28:00 PM
Late to this post, but that's funny as hell!
Come to think of it, the residency rule is racist to, yea, thats the ticket, lets change that too while were at it.
10/15/2007 12:59:00 AM
Absolutely
Can you guys quit locking your guns inside of vehicles and thinking it is SECURE. When your car is broken into, and the gun is stolen you will be SUSPENDED, no questions asked. Inside a locked vehicle is NOT SECURE PERIOD. Locked in a locked container inside a locked car IS NOT SECURE. Locked in the glove compartment in a locked car, is NOT SECURE PERIOD. PASS THE WORD.
10/15/2007 05:05:00 PM
So when then SORT car goes down for lunch and their rifles/shotguns are locked in the trunk...these weapons are considered "unsecure"? Quick call the inspector!
Anonymous said...
What's with all of these SOS guys coming to the patrol divison with "bump cards" so they can wear full beards and fu manchu style mustaches?
I guess everyone should put in "bump cards" now? Great role models for younger po's.
-CPD supervisor
we ain't in grade school the newbie can figure it out.
get some balls and tell he or she(ha ha) to shave it so it is right log it on your log and then follow up if not taken care of do the right thing.
Anonymous said...
She will be sent to call bacl for the rest of her career and do whatever she wants..sound familiar?
10/14/2007 11:54:00 PM
She will not be sent anywhere watch and see she will be promoted ala cindy white the felon!
I thought there were only 52 cards in a deck. I guess this dosen't apply to the Race Card. That one can be played over and over. I for one am getting a little tired of it. Get the chip off your shoulder and move on my friend. This chip has grown into a railroad tie (I think that's how its spelled) and it's getting pretty heavy and holding you back.
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