Ramsey in Philly
The Washington Post article (you might need a password to read the whole thing):
- Former D.C. police chief Charles H. Ramsey was named commissioner of the Philadelphia police force yesterday, taking the job nearly a year after he stepped aside in Washington.
So as numerous people have pointed out, we can take Ramsey's name of any lists. Here's a link over at Domelights.com where the visitors comment on the appointment.
We've got a question though. Is anyone else seeing top police jobs as similar to Major League Baseball coaching positions now? We've seen different chiefs (coaches) moving from city to city, making a big splash, "shaking" things up where they can, then getting hired to go clean up or straighten out another town when stagnation sets in again. New York, LA, and a couple of other medium sized cities seem to be in on this trend, hired guns with new "ideas," even though most of the ideas seem to be stolen from New York. Doesn't it say something bad about your Department if you can't promote from within? That no one is competent to lead that you've trained from the ground up?
Of course, just look at what the last 20 years of the CPD has produced.
We've got a question though. Is anyone else seeing top police jobs as similar to Major League Baseball coaching positions now? We've seen different chiefs (coaches) moving from city to city, making a big splash, "shaking" things up where they can, then getting hired to go clean up or straighten out another town when stagnation sets in again. New York, LA, and a couple of other medium sized cities seem to be in on this trend, hired guns with new "ideas," even though most of the ideas seem to be stolen from New York. Doesn't it say something bad about your Department if you can't promote from within? That no one is competent to lead that you've trained from the ground up?
Of course, just look at what the last 20 years of the CPD has produced.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
133 Comments:
Chuck Ramsey is a proven leader who produces his own ideas.
He had enough sense to stay away from Chicago because he is aware of the heavy-handed way the politicians interfere with the operation of the Police Department and the incompetents who have been promoted by them.
No one in their right mind would attempt to fix the mess that Hillard and Cline have left this Department in!
Shaky Sean says maybe Ramsey knows a thing or two about 1183! Heard they are in allllllottttt of trouble! signed, doubting thomas (shaky seans buddy)
this is off topic.. but I know that many bosses read this blog..
I live in the 18th dist and I called the police to report a loud party on a busy friday night. the police showed up in less then 5 mins and shut the party down and restored peace.
I was unable to see the beat that showed up. but they did a great job clearing out 100 kids in 10 mins.
I then tried to call 311 to see if I could send a message to say thanks to the officers but 311 was unable to do that. 311 then transferred me to 911 and they then sent me to 18th dist desk who then told me that they are unable to take any messages for cars on the street.. they then sent me back to 311 who told me that any words of praise would have to be official and written then sent to the headquarters ( even if I did not have the officers names) so 20 mins later I got nothing.
AGAIN ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS SAY THANKS FOR A GOOD JOB.
So it seems that it's so easy to call and complain about the police. But it's so hard, dam near impossible for a citizen to praise the good work of the police.
so why can't someone make this a little easier.
In this day and age, why not let citizens call in letters of praise and let it go on the officers record. I would be willing to bet you would have a lot more praise.. then complaints.
MB
There is a lot of home grown talent here in Philly. The general feeling here is disappointment that the new Commissioner was not picked from our ranks.
There are many rumors, and stories, about Ramsey buzzing through our Dept. right now. We are a proud department, with many traditions. I only hope he recognizes that and works with us, not against us.
This is off topic but has anyone noticed that since the order was established that a lieutenant has to be present at all search warrants they are being included in frivolous cr numbers. How long will it be before some hard working lieutenants are forced into the behavior intervention system?
Better there then here!
The title of this thread, Ramsey in Philly, sure sounds like a Gay Adult Sex Video.
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"Looky here" says deputy Hibbity Jibbity, " I be the e-pi-tome of the main mo-fo up in here"
Oh Yeah.
You know Dana Starks was lined up to take that job after retiring from our Chicago Police Department.
I wonder what happened?
Just asking, but are there ny Melrose Park cops checking into this blog? How do you guys/gals feel out that way, having "the footman" as your top dawg? Has that affected morale in your PD?
Please let us know!
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
Do you wonder why Ramsey didn't throw his hat in the ring in his hometown?
I don't.
These guys are hred mercenaries. They leave a mess behind because when the new mercenary comes to town he reorganizes things to his own liking. As to Philly, since Frank Rizzo, the Chief is a token administrative position. They do not want any pwoer house running their police department. Philly is about as political as Chicago.
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
MAN ARE YOU UPSET ABOUT GETTING A TICKET....
Philly Cop said...
There is a lot of home grown talent here in Philly. The general feeling here is disappointment that the new Commissioner was not picked from our ranks.
There are many rumors, and stories, about Ramsey buzzing through our Dept. right now. We are a proud department, with many traditions. I only hope he recognizes that and works with us, not against us.
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Hey Philly cop, as far as your new boss Ramsey's concerned, just be sure to hide all your fat ugly high ranking police personnel and your dept. will be ok.
But hey, look on the bright side, it could've been a hell of a lot worse. You couldve ended up with one of many idiots Chicago Police bosses like Dana Starks or boss like Ernie brown.
Regardless of Ramsey not being able to stop boning his coworkers, at least he has some brains and talent unlike the other Chicago Police boss contenders you couldve ended up with.
Anonymous said...
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
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I ABSOLUTELY TOTALLY AGREE! WHEN WILL THEIR TIRADE END?
Its the way PERF operates produce a bunch of "carpetbaggers" here today gone tomorrow. That way PERF and their cohorts become the reside authority in law enforcement, with very little accountability. Babs is one of their choosen insiders and was always Ramseys push within the CPD. Oh I forgot she was the architect of CAPS and thats a great success in policing.
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
stop trying to fire everyone up, we know its you AZ
whats goin on with 1183? dope pinch and out isnt cuttin it these days? money man goes!!!
Hey Frank (citizen of Chicago), where do you live so I can plant drugs on you and maybe a gun or three if there is time. My closet is filled with to much contraband. CPD must take you down for you have blown our true plans of keeping the blackman down. Keep listening to the revs ya douche.
-Signed a member of the Insane fish, the biggest "gang" in Chicago.
To 8:59 am:
Frank are you off your MEDS again?
Anonymous said...
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
I'm a retired P.O and I feel pretty much the same way you do. Scary isn't it. . .
Frank - citizen of Chicago said:
I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket.
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You must be really old. When I lived in Chicago in the late 70s it was $20.
Frank also said:
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
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Bottom line Frank is that cops are human beings. Some human beings do bad things. Some cops do bad things. Most of the time most cops aren't going to do bad things. You hear about the bad things.
It is a little scary that there is no means by which you can tell who the bad cops are. They don't wear a sign on their forehead that says "bad cop". It is thus safest to assume any cop you come in contact is bad. That is also human nature.
Ironically, often even the "bad" cops will stick their neck way out on the line to come to the aid of someone in trouble. Human nature is quite complex, and is not as simple as "good" and "bad".
You are probably screwed over 10 times as bad by the democratic party in Chicago as by the CPD. You should really be mad at them. They after all have control of the CPD, and could clean up the rough edges if they really wanted to. They don't.
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
Is little dicky daley using maggets computer again?
Mike has just been reassigned to Iowa's North Central Correctional Facility, about 400 miles west of Chicago on U.S. 20 less than 100 miles east of the Missouri River, the Nebraska border.
Please continue to write letters of support to Mike. They are precious and make him stronger.
MICHAEL A. METTE, #6520284
North Central Correctional Facility
313 Lanedale
Rockwell City, IA 50579
MMDF:jn
"18th dist desk who then told me that they are unable to take any messages for cars on the street"
The dummy desk officer should have forwarded your call to the desk Sgt. But being that the person is a desk coward & the jealousy that person has toward POs on the street hence the run arond you received. Next time ask to the Watch Commander and give your name. Compliments are rare as hens teeth these days. Thanks.
To Frank
The riots happened in 68. How old were you if you are now 45. You have no idea what occures in this city. This is from a retired 32 year vet of the C.P.D.
Frank,
Sorry we no longer take money to let you pass on a traffic violation.
As far as respect from yourself or others goes, you can stick it up your ass and twirl it! We don't need your support to do our job.
Lastly, go fuck yourself you whining piece of shit!
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
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I call bullshit!!! When was the last time you were pulled over? I live in 016 and I haven't even seen my beat car (1613) in God knows how long.
If you are being pulled over by the police it's because you live in a drug and gang infested ghetto, drive like shit, or both.
What are you calling the police for that took a hour? Loud kids in the park? Your neighbor that parked in the alley to unload groceries from her car? The suspicious vehicle that belongs to your neighbor two doors down? These are expamles of the bullshit calls that tie us up all night long because this city is full of losers and idiots.
Also the quality of the Officers is a direct reflection of the pay/benefits offered, hiring standards, and management/supervision in this city. These thing are directly controlled by YOUR elected officals. You voted for Daley, and your alderman. Why? So they could enrich their friends and play racial politics? How is the police dept any different from the schools, CTA, streets and sanitation, fire dept, etc? It's about money/jobs for their friends and racial politics. That's it. Not about providing good and efficent service to the taxpayers.
Stop being such a dope.
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
DUDE, TIME TO UP THE MEDS, YOU'RE WRAPPING THAT ALUMINUM FOIL A LITTLE TOO TIGHTLY ROUND YOUR HEAD. THAT STASH OF KIDDIE PORN IS WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, NOT SOME WARPED HOMOEROTIC "THE MAN IS OUT TO GET ME" FANTASY YOUR SPEWING...
ALL I KNOW IS EVERY SUPE IN THE LAST 20YEARS UNDER DALEY IS WORSE THAN HIS PREDECESSOR. ANYONE SENSE A PATTERN HERE??
TIME FOR REGIME CHANGE& TERM LIMITS NOW!!
Federal indictments relating to the SOS scandal will be announced after the holidays.The indictments will pertain to civil rights violations and to criminal activity under the RICO Laws.Racketeer-Influenced Criminal Organizations(RICO).The RICO can be applied to any criminal activity performed by any entity;such as organized crime groups,corporations(Enron),political corruption and police corruption.
Hello Frank. Sounds to me from your post You have blue lights in your rear view quite often. Is it because your a shitty driver, is it because your automobile is not up to code, such as your plates not registering to your car, your plates are expired maybe no city sticker, maybe no front plate,is your D/L susp. or revoked maybe expired, these are just a few examples I could go all day on traffic. Frank it seems your pushing the half century mark in age. Seems to me you are very paranoid Frank, not unless you carry narcotics, do you carry a gun in your car...if you do your not suppose to Frank. You are one of the many small percantages that disgrace the police dept, but there are many more that do CREDIT our work. And also frank you stating being followed home and your belongings being taken, Frank here I have an idea "cut the prozac in half next you come on this blog". Remember Frank w/out us this shit city would make the L.A riots look like childrens carnival. You have your right to make your comment but guess what SO DO I. signed A Chicago Police Officer.
the hiring prosess has been tainted with political clout phone calls,chronyism,favoritism, etc; since the Daley Administration took over. Personnel background investigations have been told by politically motivated Supervisors to overlook things that would disqualify someone from being hired as a police recruit for the sake of clout-favors being called in on behalf of the person to be hired's family. And they wonder why some of these so-called Law Enforcement officers commit more crimes than they prevent. Federal oversight NOW.
Hello Frightened Frank!!! Please go to the doctor and get some meds. Sir I believe your are in desperate need of some.
I would like to pick apart some of you misguided letter.
1). "Serving the public" Sir are job is not serve the public. The job of the police dept is to enforce the law and keep the public peace. Lawmakers write laws and the police enforce them plain and simple. City service is reached via 311
2). You are correct this is not your fathers police dept. I don't ask for or take bribes. The past is dead and buried. Accountability has taken over the world let alone the police. The old police regularly shook down citizens and strong armed businesses just like the mob. The old police also handled their business without making reports and settled disputes by what was right and not what was the law. Keep voting democrat!!! Thats the real reason the police dept hands are tied.
3). It takes you and hour to show up if you show up at all. I work in a busy dist and I answer my jobs promptly as do most of my fellow officers. On weekends I have to beg for a lunch and often have to sneak into the station just to go to the bathroom. I have no idea what your calling about but, my guess that its not police related or of a very low priority. Drug dealers on the corner jobs come out in the truckload every ten minutes. Sir if you have a complaint about police service call the mayor and the city council. The politicians are the ones who have all their friends hidden at HQ or some BS unit that never hits the street. Manpower to answer jobs is at an all time low. If you actually read this blog you would already know that.
I'm done, Frank is probably a troll just trying to cause trouble. I won't fall for your BS and nobody else should either.
OFF THE TOPIC.......they protesting the po-lice shooting from the other night in 015. they shot pookie!!! everyone remember the world is a better place. breath in ...........smell the fresh air
He is in philly and still we have no leaders here! Who will supt? the answer is whomever daley fits the puppet strings to, like the strings on little boy jimmy keating who is so connected to daley he falls when daley walks!
...so why can't someone make this a little easier.
In this day and age, why not let citizens call in letters of praise and let it go on the officers record. I would be willing to bet you would have a lot more praise.. then complaints.
MB
11/17/2007 01:48:00 AM
Wow, that's awesome to hear praise! My advice? Write a letter...it doesn't have to be any longer than what you typed here....send it to the 18th Dist, 1160 N Larrabee care of the commander, and send a copy to headquarters at 3510 S. Michigan ave care of Personnel...believe it or not, your letter should end up on the complimentary file of the officers involved....there are VERY FEW of us who have EVER gotten a GOOD letter, so this is kind of amazing! And the trouble you have had illustrates the state of things in the dept.... don't forget, we still use pen and carbon paper for our reporting, so we are WAY behind the tech curve (hopefully someday you can just drop an email to someone!) At any rate, thanks for taking the time to say thanks, it means more than you could possibly know, especially coming from a citizen in that area!!!! Another thought, call the 18 dist again and ask for the desk sgt. He or she will probably be silent for a few seconds, as it slowly sinks in that you are calling for praise!
Philly Cop said...
There is a lot of home grown talent here in Philly. The general feeling here is disappointment that the new Commissioner was not picked from our ranks.
There are many rumors, and stories, about Ramsey buzzing through our Dept. right now. We are a proud department, with many traditions. I only hope he recognizes that and works with us, not against us.
11/17/2007 03:36:00 AM
I'd take solace in the fact that he chose your dept over ours. That at least proves the man has sound reasoning skill!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
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Are you a member of the Media?? Perhaps trying to instigate something?? Very sneeky you Liberal Bastard.
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
Well, hi there Frank! A few questions for ya....did you vote over the years? did you vote fore daley? Did you vote for Stroger? If you did, this is YOUR fault, not ours. We are a product of who the citizens elect. This is YOUR department, we reflect YOUR city. I hate this Dept as much as you do, but at least I realize that the vast majority of us are hardworking and honest!!! And are you complaining that you would rather pay 5 bucks than a ticket? Those days are long gone, so that shows a little bit of PROGRESS, don't you think? If I were you, I'd move. It's only going to get worse. And why exactly would we rush to a job? To help someone that hates us? Um, no. To put ourselves in harm's way while on cellphone camera? Um, no. Don't worry about home invasions....that came from some scumbags and occurred in the bad areas. Besides, CPD isn't in the law enforcement field anymore. We are more afraid to to ANYTHING than you could possible imagine. But yes, if you pull out something on a traffic stop that looks like a gun, you will get shot. So sorry. I have a family. And it would be YOUR fault, 1. for committing a violation and 2. for reaching for something. Walk in our shoes for a day. So, my point to this whole thing really is that if I was a citizen, I would move. But I don't have that right, I'm stuck here, with you. THAT really sucks.
Chicago Police trotted out the city's near year-end crime statistics Friday, showing murder and robbery dropped while reported arsons were up in the first 10 months of 2007 when compared with the same period last year.
Violent crime dropped 2.6 percent, with 29,266 crimes, such as rapes and homicides, reported through October of this year, compared with 30,037 last year -- a difference of 771 such crimes.
The number of reported arsons so far this year, 601, is up from last year's 582.
And the number of reported murders is down 3.8 percent, with 380 reported so far this year and 395 reported last year.
Interim Police Supt. Dana Starks, in a press release, said too many innocents still are being gunned down on the streets. But he attributes the drop in crime to, in part, officers working in high-crime neighborhoods to take guns, narcotics, drug money and cars off the streets, often disrupting the potential for violence.
Hey Chuck,
I've got a deal for you on some unfinished business in Rock Creek Park. If you can pull some strings with Daley and get Terry Gainer as Chicago's top cop, I'll give you Chandra Levy's murderer on a silver platter, not to mention all the Philly cheesesteaks you can eat at Pat's.
From his days in Area 4 Homicide, Terry was always a street cop. That sergeant at arms gig in the U.S. Senate must give him narcolepsy.
I've been canvassing Anacostia for years. I finally got lucky. Do we have a deal?
Beat wishes in the "City of (not so) Brotherly Love." and give our regards to Terry.
Ramsey was the one bright spot in the exempt pantheon. He was intelligent, articulate, and innovative. He was the front runner to be named super until someone told Daley what intelligent, articulate, and innovative meant (probably won't kiss your ass and do your or the aldercreature's bidding) and so Ramsey was out and Hilliard was in. It was the last chance that a competent boss could be promoted from within. Look at the choices you have now.
A note to Frank,
Like any large company there is a small percentage of employees that should not have been hired in the first place but do not judge the whole police dept. on the actions of the few. There are many, many fine officers that respond to a call when needed.
It really is too bad YOU feel disgust about the Chicago Police. We, as police officers feel disgust for a percentage of the citizens that we have to serve. If you can even think about the types of situations that we are called to "serve" such as, my son, daughter, aunt, uncle, you pick the relation, is high on crack, heroin, booze, and we want him out. Well that's just great, when the family can no longer handle thier problem, call the police and have the problem taken out like garbage. This is just one very small example.
Two congressmen are calling for the immediate release of imprisoned Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean and a complete investigation of their prosecutor after the arrest last night of the drug smuggler at the center of the case.
Reps. Ted Poe, R-Texas, and Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., say that with the arrest of Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, Congress and the attorney general should launch a full-scale review of U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton's prosecution of the border agents.
Sutton, said Rohrabacher in a statement, "is now confirming what members of Congress and the public already figured out about Osvaldo Davila. He's a rotten habitual drug smuggler who should have been the target of Sutton's prosecution, instead of Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean."
As Wold News Daily reported, Aldrete-Davila was arrested yesterday at the El Paso border crossing on charges he smuggled a second 750-pound load of marijuana into the U.S. after he was given immunity by U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton.
See in the Sunday Times paper the story on trigger happy cops. They say the cop should pay, not the city on these lawsuits.
We need Sgt. Major Fred Rice back now!
Hey Frank(citizen of chicago):
Stop whinning you idiot fool. Go ahead and call 911, if we decide to show up we will rob you, beat you and shoot you for combing your hair.
Frank, get out of Chicago as quick as you can and go as far as you can. We know who you are.
Be afraid Frank, be very afraid.
Frank (citizen of Chicago)...go f*ck YOURSELF!!!!!!
Love, John (CPD Officer)
Hey Chicago!
If you ever get around 9th Street and Passyunk Avenue in South Philly, check out the cheesesteaks at Pat's or Geno's. They're across the street from each other.
Your Brothers in the PPD.
To 11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM,
No Frank you're not alone! the sentiment and concern you express is shared by thousands of convicted criminals, their bottom feeder attorneys, and jack leg ministers everywhere! However, you will not a find kindred spirit in Park Ridge, Glenview, Palos Hills, or in any of the other towns where people with sense have fled from urban crime, the criminals, and their white liberal apologists.
Don't want me to shoot you on a traffic stop? Keep your fucking hands where I can see them. So put down the Sun-Times, or the Reader, and get a clue. You are not representative of anyone normal because you live in Chicago and you are the biggest part of the problem.
Hey SCC-
Have you seen the front page of the Sunday Scumtimes yet?
Slow news day so more police bashing.
TO: I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
IF your comments are YOUR impression of the WHOLE Chicago Police Dept., then all I can say is, go back to your shoe shine box and get a life.
Anonymous said...
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
Frank,
Since I am to serve you to your level of satisfaction, I need a raise to better support my family. Daley is taxing me to death. I know you will help with the raise because, you as everyone like you knows, throwing more money at a problem will solve the problem, lack of police integrity and work. I promise you, if you give me a decent raise, I will work to your level of satisfaction and you will then respect me .
Sam Bass
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
I will address the three points that you made.First, you wondered allowed that you fear being shot during a traffic stop.That point is baseless.If you think I'm wrong go to traffic court Mon.-Fri. and see how many people were issued traffic citations without being shot during a traffic stop. Secondly, during a traffic stop we do a license plate check,so guess what? We already have your address.Moreover, don't flatter yourself, coppers don't want your trinkets. Finally,if you ever have narcotics "planted" on you or in your vehicle I hope that officer is arrested!!
Too bad Frank, because we lost faith in the citizens too. Too quick to second guess, too quick to complain, and too quick to shift blame. This police department in the byproduct of who you vote for. Talk nonsense about "rogue" cops and the like. However, scandals are few and far between. The aldermen have a worse avergae than us. And frankly, citizens don't like being told the truth...they are too dependent on the government and the police on a whole. We are sick of being accused of shooting the altar boy, we are sick of tucking your kid in at night.
IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
Well you see Frank it's like this, the car that was assigned to sit there and wait for your call was unable to make it into work that day. So when you called, you were put on the list and had to wait just like EVERYBODY else. You can thank your elected officials for that problem Frank because the patrol division is stripped so far down that there are just not enough of us to handle the volume of calls and patrol the neighborhoods in an attempt to prevent the crime from occurring. It is because of this that the GOOD taxpaying public has to wait such a long time for simple service. But don't worry Frank there is a solution to your problem, you can move to the worst most crime ridden parts of the city and enjoy all the police service you desire partly do to the fact that we as police only want to be in those areas harrassing the poor honor roll students and future rap stars. Thank you Frank and you have a great day.
having "the footman" as your top dawg? Has that affected morale in your PD?
Please let us know!
11/17/2007 08:43:00 AM
And how many times have you been shot in the line of duty Mr. big hero? Oh, I forgot, hair gel and Muchael Jackson gloves put fear into the heart of the unarmed one baggers and they just surrender to you!
Guy is a real hero and you bash him here. Nice to have five minutes on the job and be so smart.
To Frank who posted at 11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM 11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
I have been a citizen of Chicago for all of my 50 years,I am not a cop and do not have a relative who is one.Here's what I think...
You sir,are a babbling idiot.
What's wrong,can't make a illegal bribe so it's the cops fault?Do you drive like a shithead,is that why you see blue lights in your mirror?They didn't respond fast enough to your call about loud noise scaring you!
Sounds like you must have a reason to fear the Police.
Stop watching and reading the liberal media's crap.You are not alone in how you feel,there are alot of other ignorant folks like you.
And what riots.Unless you lived in the ghetto in "67"(you'd be 5 years old) or were your parents yippies and had you at Grant Park in "69" throwing shit at the coppers?
Thank you CPD!
Signed:
John(Citizen who thinks Frank is a shit throwing liberal).
Ramsey would have been GREAT for Chicago and the CPD
To: Frank (citizen of Chicago)
You, my friend, are an asshat. I'll bet you don't even know one CPD officer personally, and only get your information from the media clowns of this city who seem to be in a war with the police. CPD is seriously undermanned and it is only getting worse each day. That trend is happening with many other police departments as well. You, as the taxpayer, are getting what you deserve when you keep voting for anti-police mayors and aldermen. And may I ask why you called 911 "numerous times"? My guess is on bullshit non-emergency crap. You are one of the problems.
Retired ISP
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
Frank, let me answer your well thought out and insightful questions.
"*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)"
Yes, yes you will because we are all thrill killers who dont get our feet held to the fire by our own dept. (if were not heavy) and crucified by the media in a GOOD shooting. This happens all the time.
"*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)"
Yes, yes you will because we actually do have a quota and like to risk our carreers and freedom for the cash bonus we get on every arrest. This happens all the time.
"*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)"
Yes, yes you will because, beyond the fact that the vast majority of cops arent completely overworked answering BS jobs from people who havent learned to solve problems that the average civilized 5 year old can, we all enjoy risking our carreers and freedom for a good old fahioned home invasion. This happens all the time.
"IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!"
Thats not because were understaffed or because the vast majority of cops are completely overworked answering BS jobs from people who havent learned to solve problems that the average civilized 5 year old can. Its because, we all enjoy risking our carreers and freedom for a good old fahioned home invasion.
"I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket."
Ah yes, the good old days indeed.
We care very little about your opinion of us. Were too busy shooting innocents, planting dope and planning our latest home invasion.
No go, sit down, pick up the reader, tune in NPR and have a nice big cup of camomile tea. Be sure to believe everything you are told, that gets everyone who does it very far.
Honestly sir, you have no idea what you speak of and less idea about what we do.
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
Frank if you really feel that way then so be it, I won't try to change your mind, but I don't see how you can equate the behavior of a few officers, that represent one tent of one percent of this department as the "norm" for the other 99.9%, that is what is sad.
Anonymous said...
I am, and have been a citizen of Chicago for the past 45 years. I was there through the riots. I was there when you slipped the officer a $5 dollar bill and he let you go without a speeding ticket. Those were the times back then. As the times have changed and the way you officers do things evolve I am really disheartened. Now when I see the blue lights light up behind me I am truly frightened.
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang)
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.
What you officers are doing to this city is down right a disgrace! ....And I'm sure most replies to my post will be of the intelligent sort "Well the next time you need/call for help don't call us" The fact of the matter is that I have and did call 911 numerous of times on different occasions and got the same service as I always do. - IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
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Sir, I would suggest that you not believe everything that you see on the news, and read in the papers. For the vast majority of people on this job, they go to work every day because they truly do love the work. It is admittedly becoming a great deal more difficult these days, especially in light of some of the recent incidents captured on videotape. Other incidents have been mentioned in the newspapers, but there has been no definitive proof as of yet.
I point specifically to the "Screwdriver in the Rectum" judgement. Jurors awarded a man $2 million after believing his story that he was REPEATEDLY anally penetrated with a screwdriver. Now, using an objective mind, what kind of police officer has the surgical experience to NOT put a tear into this man's rectum with EACH push of the screwdriver?
The news media in this town are constantly looking for corruption stories. If it is deserved, fine. However, when the evidence supports another viewpoint, how come that is never played up? Why? Because it is not newsworthy. It will not sell newspapers, or create bigger Nielsen ratings for the TV, because it is not a headline grabber.
In short, you can still trust your vast majority of police. Simply use common sense, like you would with someone from any other profession. If you meet with a lawyer and he sounds like he doesn't know what he is doing, trust your instinct--he probably is clueless. All any police officer ever asked for is cooperation from the public, and the perception amongst a great number of police officers, especially the hard workers, is that the efforts are not appreciated by the public. You can only berate someone or something for so long before they become unresponsive or uncaring. Let's not let it get to that point.
Oh, as far as taking an hour to show up, mattering on the type of call, you may very well be right. I would beg you to pressure your local politician(s) to explain the lack of manpower in the local districts. Since 1999, 35% of the manpower in my district has been taken away for specialized units in the department, units which do not respond to your 911 calls for service. This number is similar for the districts near mine on the south side of the city. I would suggest filing a Freedom of Information request with the Police Dept to ask for personnel numbers actually assigned to your local district in, let's say, 199, and also for 2007. Be specific to request that the numbers show only the people showing up for work in that district, and not being sent to another unit on a daily basis, "ie detailed out."
Sorry for the length. I hope this helps.
A long time poster to this website and the predecessor.
Is former gf B.Mc. going to be his girlfriend there or perhaps a deputy sup?
Well FRANK, you must not read this blog very often. If you did you would understand that to most of us this has become just another job. Dont blame the officers on the street for what you call your disgust for the Dept. Blame the these liberal assholes you elected in the last few elections.
As for us caring about this job and you as a citizen, you are 100% correct. We dont give a fuck any more!
Why should that matter to you anyway??? Do you care about what your plummer or your server a Mc Donalds thinks about you?
Take your Bullshit some place else and tell someone who gives a shit!
Thanks, Officer Freindly...
Citizen Frank, Go up to Wisconsin, commit a traffic violation aka (One of their speed traps)and make sure you have a credit card with a high limit on it. you sure are going to need it since they dont accept bond cards. The majority of us 98% work our asses off and rarely get thanked by anyone. So maybe you can pack up your ass and move to another state. Maybe if you lived in a "Ghetto District" put on a "minister" costume you would get better service. " The few districts that are liveable are Under staffed and stretched out way too thin to help out "NORMAL CITIZENS".
from a West side cop
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
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Dear Mr. Frightened Citizen Frank:
There are always a very small percentage of corrupt employees whether they be civil servants or in the private sector. Those cops that took $5 bucks back then were just as corrupt then as the guys flashing $100 bucks doing the nasty as cops now. Please don't paint every cop on the force as a bad person. Many of us are hard-working honest people with families paying bills and putting our kids through school and doing their best to serve the public. Give it a rest....or just move out of Chicago to Neverland.
to MB 1:48am as a retired PO, I sayh thank ou for appreciating the work that most officers do.
to 8:59am----I'm sorry that the actions of a few bad apples has jilted your respect for the hard working coppers left. It's too bad that the actions of a few can make you feel that way.
Pepper Anderson for Supe.
Having been reading this from Houston, I can definitely agree with that. The lunatic that our police department got saddled with came from Phoenix. He still lives there, and 'commutes' here, upon occasion, to act like he's in charge, and brings with him all sorts of nonsense ideas like the no chase policy.
Bloody insane
Hey MB,
Try sending an email to:
CAPS018District@chicagopolice.org
Anonymous said...
"Looky here" says deputy Hibbity Jibbity, " I be the e-pi-tome of the main mo-fo up in here"
11/17/2007 08:19:00 AM
H.M.F.W.B.I.C.
Anonymous said... Ramsey was the one bright spot in the exempt pantheon. He was intelligent, articulate, and innovative. He was the front runner to be named super until someone told Daley what intelligent, articulate, and innovative meant
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No Dude! Amongst others, the real reason is because Ramsey couldnt keep it in his pants, he was boning Dep. B. McDonald on a regular basis. This my man is a no no, especially when the cats out of the bag.
Hey Frank, Take a look at those Criminals YOU elected to congress in Washington, The Idiots in the State houe in Springfield and our Idiot Governor, lets not forget about oor own city council. A majority in Congress have Felony Convictions, Cant get a Credit card, and have to use a debit card for airline Tickets. Are "former" meaning they(BOBBY RUSH AKA BLACK PANTHER MINISTER OR DEFENSE). Defraud the US postal service of Millions of dollars AKA DAN ROSTENKOWSKI. Take a look at the chicago city council, what a bunch of dumb fucks. How many have been indicted by Fitzgerald over the last years? So many I cant count. Fitzgerald should run for Governor or President and clean up all the liberals stealing the tax payers money. Move to springfield, Ryan is in Prison, Blagojagoff is being investigated and soon to be indicted. Hoe many state officials went to prison for the Lciense for bribes scandal? Too many to count. Cant wait to see Fitzgerald Go after the County board and crooks or I mean Comissioners. Lets not forget that Idiot "Reverend State Senator" Weeks. Fitzgerald should probe him for tax evasion and The Off duty Police who provide security for his fat ass! Are they really off duty when they Guard his fat lying ass? IAD ARE YOU LISTENING? So Frank. look at the ASSHOLES you more than likey voted for and the percentage of them who get indicted for Robbing us all blind! Our Percentage is very low. So move to Louisian or mississippi and help jessie jackass help the helpless.
Civilian writing here. Don't listen to that Frank guy. Remember that the vast majority of DECENT citizens respect the police. You never hear from us, but we are out here, and are behind you 100 per cent. The cop-bashing, when it's not coming from the reverends, is coming from sanctimonious jerks who want to feel noble.
Please don't stop being agressive because of all the bullshit complaints you guys get. We need you to be tough. Thanks for going the extra mile. Be safe.
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
WELL FRANK I'M A CITIZEN AND I'M NOT AFRAID OF THE CPD. I THINK THAT YOU ARE A LITTLE SOFT, AND MUST WATCH THE NEWS AT THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT. I'VE ALSO LIVED IN CHICAGO MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND I'VE NEVER HAD ANY NEGATIVE CONTACT WITH THE CPD, AND I ACTUALLY FIND THEM TO BE PRETTY FAIR, FUNNY, AND REALISTIC. ALL THESE STORIES ARE LIES, ITS AMAZING THAT AFTER THAT BARTENDER VIDEO CAME OUT EVERYONE WAS JUST WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND WERE BEATEN BY POLICEMEN...TAKE YOUR MEDS!
DAVE (ALSO A CITIZEN)
Frank, cant be for real?? he must be a "bater" or a joke. I have never met in 12 years on this job white , black , green, a person whom thinks like he does.....besides the Sun-times and its GED writers, at least.
Good day troll, I mean Frank
Whoever brought up the "bomb"; I thought that incident was great.
The mayor/PD chief who signed off on that one had "sack".
F*k those MOVE assholes, they were shooting at the Philly PD for days.
Can u imagine the stuttering prick giving an order like that?
Dont even give the one who posted his name as "Frank" something more to talk about. He is lonely. So just like we have to act like we are constantly being video taped, lets show some restraint and let him remain ignorant.
-Mike
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
Dear Frank,
I am truly sorry for the way you feel about(SOME of)the Chicago Police officers.Im glad you brought this topic up..i have been bitching about the same thing to my partner about police service many times..i am fortunate enough to live in a decent neighborhood.I myself have called the police for service(during the day) and no beat car(s)show up,and i live in a good beat where theres not much calls,but a busy district overall.Having said this and i can understand maybe why..most beat cars ride 10-99(one man/woman)during the day shift,the cars might be backing other units on other "HOT" calls..but its no excuse on the city's part for not hiring more police officers...you see Frank,we are waaaay short handed throughout the districts and the department....Although i make no excuses for the dogs (LAZY OFFICERS) that dont respond to their calls...and there is ALOT of them,i have worked with some of them,they did nothing their whole career but they bitch the most and expect everything...its a bigger kick in the ass when you see them get promoted...there is alot of them in higher ranks now telling us how things should be done,when they dont have a clue whats goes on...that is why morale on this department is SHIT...as far as...
*Will I be shot? (and have them say I was reaching for something)
*Will they plant some narcotics on me or in my vehicle? (just so they can get there arrest and fill their quota)
*Will they get my address and follow me home and take my money or belongings? (Chicago Police now are nothing more than a uniformed gang
I know for a fact,that officers dont kill someone just for kicks...and dont remember the last time it happened just because someones reaching for something...although it does heighten our senses when people do that...especially in some districts..
As far as planting narcotics on a person,that is just plain stupid,i think officers value their families and freedom to much to do such a thing..and we dont have quotas..we dont have to do a damn thing(hence the DOGS),no arrests,no tickets,just respond to the calls that are assigned...
Following people home and robbing them is also pretty stupid..but it has happen in the past by some fucked up criminal cops that shouldnt be on the job in the first place...We good,honest,working officers are just as angry as the citizens when dirty cops do criminal acts..it makes us all look bad!!..but dont forget that there are ALOT of good officers in the department that are honest and hard working to protect the good citizens of Chicago..Next time if noone show up for a call you made,call,call, and keep calling....
signed....one of MANY good officers out there doing their job....
Frank,
You would have been 6 yrs old in 68, and have no idea what was going on. You sir are full of shit and no doubt a troll......
See Frank, look what you started!!! Keep bashing Office, more frank bashing, bring it!!!
philly gourmet tip said...
Hey Chicago!
If you ever get around 9th Street and Passyunk Avenue in South Philly, check out the cheesesteaks at Pat's or Geno's. They're across the street from each other.
Your Brothers in the PPD
FOR FREE? WE'RE PRETTY CHEAP HERE.
Now here is a nice story of three honor roll students from California:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BREAK_IN_MURDER?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
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Are you f-ing kidding me?
Dear All you Chicago Police Officer's,
*I Will make sure I make more calls to 911 and when you do show up "not" in a timely fashion I will notify the new OPS.
*If I see Chicago Police officers sitting at the White Hen's and restaurants through out the city for your usual hour or more (30 minutes is what you get) -I will call the new OPS with squad #'s and plates.
*If I see one of you pompous Officer's who are not wearing your name plate and star -I will call the new OPS.
*When I see you officers show up at my neighborhood tavern where all my union comrades hang after a truly stressful job (ironworkers)...We all know which are the police in the bar -the pompous, cocky, their shit don't stink, gun wearing, story telling annoying losers -I will make sure I call the new OPS with plate #'s after you leave the bar intoxicated.
It's time I take "MY" city back and I encourage ALL citizen's to do the same. Hopefully this new OPS I'm hearing about will do this.
I am a Local #1 Ironworker and NONE of you officers could hack what me and my guys can do. We built this damn city and we will be damned if a bunch of you "thugs" are going to ruin it for us!!
Frank (citizen of Chicago who is taking back the city)
TO: I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
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I agree with Frank and admire his courage. -Debbie (citizen of Chicago)
FRANK FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!! This city needs it.
Frank (citizen of Chicago)...go f*ck YOURSELF!!!!!!
Love, John (CPD Officer)
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Typical Chicago Police officer response........pitiful. spit.
(James (citizen of Chicago 35 years)
Hey Frank: I just farted! Take a deep breath, my friend, suck it in!
Anonymous said...
Civilian writing here. Don't listen to that Frank guy. Remember that the vast majority of DECENT citizens respect the police. You never hear from us, but we are out here, and are behind you 100 per cent. The cop-bashing, when it's not coming from the reverends, is coming from sanctimonious jerks who want to feel noble.
Please don't stop being agressive because of all the bullshit complaints you guys get. We need you to be tough. Thanks for going the extra mile. Be safe.
11/17/2007 09:31:00 PM
Thanks! We all (I'm sure) appreciate the sentiment.... but we actually need people like you to raise a voice. Our dept. is at a crossroads, and very soon, unless there is public reaction to the reverands and the like, there will be NO proactive policing at all, and good people such as yourselves will undoubtedly suffer. As it is now, the only people who are trying to work on plainclothes tactical teams are the young bucks who see that as the only way to stay off of the midnight shift. The negative, non-working 'victims' in this city have taken over the press and have created perception...without your voice, this game is over.
Settle down Francis!
Ramsey in Philly
The Washington Post article (you might need a password to read the whole thing):
Former D.C. police chief Charles H. Ramsey was named commissioner of the Philadelphia police force yesterday, taking the job nearly a year after he stepped aside in Washington.
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He of all people knows that this Shity is a J-O-K-E!
Nobody from here wants this job, why would anyone fom outside??
Who said I was this guy Frank.
Soon to be Lt. A.Z, Then a Cmdr. afterwards.
Maybe the RESIDENCY RULE is scaring people away!
Ramsey was a great boss. I was involved in an off duty pinch years ago when he was a new lieutenant in 020.It was a decent pinch but I had been drinking. He was great and always remembered to go out of his way to say hello on his way up. Retired now.
What Mexican Drug Cartel does the smuggler belong to and who gave the order to the US Attorney to prosecute(persuecute)the 2 Border Patrol agents for doing their job?
I'm sorry but being a citizen of Chicago I do have to say that "US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's. The quality of police officer's on the street today is a joke. When most people hear the words "Chicago Police" they shake their head in disgust.- IT TAKES YOU OFFICERS AN HOUR TO EVEN SHOW UP...THATS IF YOU SHOW UP!
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Well, Frank, we (CPD) are just so freaking tired of answering calls from OEC dispatch about "Baby Mama Drama" and "My kid won't go to school". I suggest that you, Sir, go to a CAPS meeting and bravely voice out your opinion and problems about your neighborhood to the Beat Officers . And, Sir, if you haven't yet taken your prescribed medication by your Physician, please do.
Anonymous said...
Ramsey would have been GREAT for Chicago and the CPD
11/17/2007 05:29:00 PM
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Apparently you are too young to remember when he was here before.
"Together We Can"
TERM LIMITS? We already have them. They are called elections!
Maybe Frank and Debbie can strap on a gun that you cant use, without fear of being sent to prison, a bullet proof vest that you have to update and buy yourself and hit the streets in your Crown vic that has no police lights or brakes! I want to see these asswads see what I see daily, not daley. If these bleeding hearts saw half the shit they would puke!! The waste of the ghetto the waste of your tax money. The media will have you believe that waste is with the police and lawsuits.....No nO no that waste is in the ghetto with funding of the lifestyle.
Typical Chicago police answer??? Yeah your right, we are tired of the bullshit from you and the rest of this crappy city. The criminlas are finding out fast that they are not being stopped anymore.....be careful liberals
The Keesing Bandit says---
Frank!! Is that you?? I've known you since your crossdresser days. It's good to hear from you. I know your job as an ironworker can be stressful. That iron can talk back to you and give you a very bad time.
Doesn't your union have a prescription drug plan? You need to get back on that Prozac.
By the way, you look better in heels than pumps.
Just exactly how are you going to take back the city? With a piece of iron in your little hand???
Now, kees me you fool!!!
Sister Mary Francis McCuddy says---
Frank? Is that you?
"US" citizens have lost RESPECT for you officer's".
I can't believe that you haven't improved your grammar since the fourth grade. I'd give you another crack with my ruler, but I'm afraid that you would cry even worse than the last time I did it.
By the way, did you ever learn to stop playing with your little pee-pee under the desk?
I am a Local #1 Ironworker and NONE of you officers could hack what me and my guys can do. We built this damn city and we will be damned if a bunch of you "thugs" are going to ruin it for us!!
Frank (citizen of Chicago who is taking back the city)
11/18/2007 01:14:00 AM
Frank i can stick steel rods in the cement too.
To Mr. Iron worker, you may of helped build this city, but if wasn't for the truly hardworking police officers nobody would be here. It's not that we can't do your job its that we don't want to. You know exactly what you get yourself into around every corner. Nobody is trying to knock you off of your building for doing your job. I would like to see you do our job, going to jobs where most of the times you really aren't wanted but have to go because the citizens demand it. Also those of you who say we take to long to get to your jobs, well that's because there are pages of jobs that get passed out on a priority system, and since your call isn't life or death you get pushed to the bottom by the system. I laugh when I hear people in the poor communities that complain they get no police service, because they get almost all of the service. When is the last time you saw one of the 500 man tru unit at harlem and catalpa or archer and harlem, because they are all in the high crime areas servicing those who really don't want us anyway. But of course we go and do our jobs. Stop focousing on those officers that are nothing but thugs. Did you stop flying when you found out there was a rash of airline piolts drunk? The scum times has to sell newspapers so they focous on the negative because it sells papers.
So call OPS if you must and report your petty problems, they will be investigated as they should be while your on the 25th floor with a hangover, oops watch that first step.
Thanks for posting this, SCC. I was away for the weekend and just now saw it, so I posted it over at Domelights and linked back to here.
I'm sure many in the PPD will be interested in what those in the CPD have to say, especially because I'm reading complaints about Ramsey already.
Be safe out there, SCC.
Frances, in 5 years when I hit my 20 I will leave with a pension paid by you for doing absolutely nothing. Thank you. You can have this shithole city that you built. I will be long gone with your money. In addition, ops does not care if we wear name tags or sit at white hen. In addition, there will be nothing they can do if you and your sissy steelworker sisters call about a copper leaving the tavern. However, it will be just a matter of time before our friends in high places figure out which taven you are calling in about, and then it will be open season for DUI's for you and the girls, and even 5 dollars won't get you out of it. I'll keep an eye out for your complaints, as I have nothing better to do while I sit around white hen. What are you going to do Frances, tell on me? Sounds to me you're just another fucking crybaby who the big bad police are picking on.
all I know is Frank isnt as great a bowler that he thinks he is! double turkey bitch!
Anonymous said...
Dear All you Chicago Police Officer's,
*I Will make sure I make more calls to 911 and when you do show up "not" in a timely fashion I will notify the new OPS.
*If I see Chicago Police officers sitting at the White Hen's and restaurants through out the city for your usual hour or more (30 minutes is what you get) -I will call the new OPS with squad #'s and plates.
*If I see one of you pompous Officer's who are not wearing your name plate and star -I will call the new OPS.
*When I see you officers show up at my neighborhood tavern where all my union comrades hang after a truly stressful job (ironworkers)...We all know which are the police in the bar -the pompous, cocky, their shit don't stink, gun wearing, story telling annoying losers -I will make sure I call the new OPS with plate #'s after you leave the bar intoxicated.
It's time I take "MY" city back and I encourage ALL citizen's to do the same. Hopefully this new OPS I'm hearing about will do this.
I am a Local #1 Ironworker and NONE of you officers could hack what me and my guys can do. We built this damn city and we will be damned if a bunch of you "thugs" are going to ruin it for us!!
Frank (citizen of Chicago who is taking back the city)
11/18/2007 01:14:00 AM
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nice try troll. By the way if you are real make sure you sign the affidavit when you make the complaint or it is not investigated. And when it is proved to be false I hope you are an Iron worker (but I doubt it, Iron Workers are men and you are obviously not a real man) because you make good money which I will get in my civil lawsuit against you for defamation of character.
Have a nice day, I'll be pulling you over soon I'm sure.
Me thinks ole Frank a little to drinky. Signed - a guy who thinks Frank is drunk.
You officers can care less about doing what your job TRULY is supposed to entail....Serving the Public!!
I know I am not alone in how I feel.
-Frank (citizen of Chicago)
11/17/2007 08:59:00 AM
Dear Frank,
I hate to break this to you, but, if your noise disturbance in the neighborhood seems important to you...how do you think the man stabbed, domestic battery victim, shots fired rate in the scheme of things ? your problem may be important to you, but, the city has a way of prioritizing jobs and yours might not be the most important at that time. By the way, we aren't mind readers, we go when the dispatcher gives us the job...at your job, there is probably a supervisor...right ? when he or she tells you,"I have a job for you" and says no more, do you know what they want you to do without being told ? Didn't think so ! we can't go to the calls until the person downtown tells us where we were called to.
Love,
Officer friendly
I am a Local #1 Ironworker and NONE of you officers could hack what me and my guys can do. We built this damn city and we will be damned if a bunch of you "thugs" are going to ruin it for us!!
Frank (citizen of Chicago who is taking back the city)
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Just keep calling OPS, the more you call, the more you’re going to look like a crackpot that you really are. I just loved the nametag complaint to OPS—you are funny.
Please identify what loser bars you hang at so I will make sure never to show up to hear your dorky Ironworkers stories. Don’t you losers have liquid lunches too? I was in a trade before this job and I know exactly what goes on.
Typical hypocrite.
i got it!! poor frank is a power test regect, he just couldnt get the job. iron worker, oh, im impressed. that takes some real guts to threaten us. come out and put your last name down. oh, yeah that's right, you are a coward. like we care what you think.
I'm retired now and when the riots happened I was in grammar school. Unless he's talking about the annual wedding dress sale at Filene's Basement.
An ironworker??? Oh JESUS!!!! Let's have a count here. How many ironworkers have you given a (free) pass to, or actually driven home? Frank, I know some ironworkers that are gonna beat your ass in for writing that crap on this blog. They will beat EVERY ironworker named frank!
Hi Frank,can I be "FRANK" with you. Being raised on the Westside of "Shitago" for 30-plus years, and in my military travels I've seen/been places YOU can only dream about. In those travels it is my belief that Shitagoans complain the most,think the laws of civility/common sense don't apply to them, "it's all about me an who cares about you" attitude. As pointed out by a prior post YOU are the very reason why Shitago is in its current cluster@#!#. Your refusal to except personal responsibility for your actions. I can give you an example: Are you one of those drivers that speed up three seconds after the traffic signal turns red and when those "THOSE BLUE LIGHTS" appear in rear view mirror(WARNING OBJECTS IN YOUR REARVIEW MIRROR MAY BE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR),and the first thing out of your mouth is "OFFICER WHAT DID YOU PULL ME OVER FOR"(NOTICE THE WSETSIDE GRAMMER),or my all time favarite OFFICER WHAT DID I DO" I guess "FRANK" what i'm trying to say is have the guts to take responsibility for your actions, next time you see those blue lights in the rearview mirror try telling the officer "OFFICER I KNOW WHAT I DID WAS WRONG,I APOLOGIZE,NEXT TIME I WILL BE MORE CAREFUL AND STOP WHEN THE LIGHT CHANGES". Coming from a black officer who is just as proud to be CPD as much as was a Marine maybe next time that officer will give you a pass,then again when you get those suspended license fixed you can have your car and license back,but that's wishful thinking on my part.There I go having faith in my fellow man. I blame the democratic flu that's going around I know you've heard of it "DALEY-ALWAYS-UP-MY-ASS-TAKING-MONEY-OUT-MY-FAMILY'S-POCKETS-SO-HE-CAN-GIVE-IT-TO-HIS-BUDDIES".The only cure is "YOU ARE HEARBY ORDERED TO APPEAR IN FRONT OF A GRAND JURY" Shot administered by DR.Fed.
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Frank (citizen of Chicago who is taking back the city)
11/18/2007 01:14:00 AM
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You are probably right, we might not be able to do your job but can you do and handle our job?? How many 'choir boys' will you shoot at when they pull a gun on you?
How would your morale be if you were arresting someone only to have the city pay him off because he got a bruise from resisting being handcuffed?
As for that neighborhood bar that you claim is your place, think again. CPD was in there way before you were, doing the exact same thing that you are doing, letting off some steam. So get off our backs, and do the city a real service. Start electing some people that actually worry about what happens to this city and not lining their own pockets.
I am proud to have been a Chicago Police Officer for over 20 years but the politics make me ashamed to be from Chicago.
I had occasion to speak with Washington PD officers last year, and their first comment was 'take your boss and his cronies back with you to Chicago'. They said historically there were more grievances and lawsuits filed under Ramsey than ever before. Many of which were related to sexual harassment, and many because Ramsey made ridiculous changes regardless of contract or union rules.
Sorry Northside, Terry Gainer is a goof and a coward and a political hack. We definitely do not want him as our boss. Washington PD hated him more than Ramsey.
Some of us did like and respect Ramsey as an immediate supervisor, but then he turned his back on the officers as he continued to rise thru the ranks - just like the rest of them.
NorthSide said...
Hey Chuck,
I've got a deal for you on some unfinished business in Rock Creek Park. If you can pull some strings with Daley and get Terry Gainer as Chicago's top cop, I'll give you Chandra Levy's murderer on a silver platter, not to mention all the Philly cheesesteaks you can eat at Pat's.
From his days in Area 4 Homicide, Terry was always a street cop. That sergeant at arms gig in the U.S. Senate must give him narcolepsy.
I've been canvassing Anacostia for years. I finally got lucky. Do we have a deal?
Beat wishes in the "City of (not so) Brotherly Love." and give our regards to Terry.
11/17/2007 02:52:00 PM
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With all due respect Northside,
I have to assume that you don't truly know what it is that you are asking for. Years ago, there was a rumor that Terry Gainer was going to be the new Director of the Illinois State Police. We were excited about the possibility of actually having someone running the ISP who was actually a cop at one time, especially a Chicago cop. Our hopes were high, and we couldn't wait for this rumor to come true. Well, I'm here to tell you that Terry Gainer's arrival was the beginning of the end for the ISP, a once proud department made up of great people. Gainer immediately started micromanaging, surrounding himself with like minded goofs and suck asses, and made it career suicide to come up with your own ideas. He single handedly reduced morale to the lowest point that it has ever been. He was a little man and as such, suffered from "little man syndrome". It's been years since Gainer left ISP and gone on to screw up the Capitol Police, who feel just like ISP does about him. He is the worst type of leader there is. He surrounds himself with "yes men" and gets rid of anyone who tries to express a different perspective. Bottom line from all of ISP - FUCK YOU TERRY GAINER!!! (pardon my language)
Retired ISP officer
Terry Gainer was forced out for getting a son-in-law on his job against the rules. Sound like anything that the world would expect of a Chicagoan?
As has been stated by someone above, the MPD and the Capitol Police are of one mind about Ramsey and Gainer. If they thought they could buy them a ticket back to Chicago, they'd have held fundraisers and raised millions to do it.
Lucky for Chuck, DC is a little city, and was heavily gentrified in his tenure due to the ends of Federal welfare dollars (thanks Newt!) and to heavy job growth in the Federal government post 9/11. The murders trended out towards PG county, just like its trending out towards the south suburbs in the Chicago area.
As for Gainer, he merely oversaw a massive growth in the Capitol police. Its something like 2000 or 3000 officers now. Almost as large of a force as the MPD in DC.
Which leaves dozens of them posted everywhere around the Capitol at all hours. I happened to drive within a block or two of the Capitol last night at 2 AM and there were at least 20 marked and unmarked units posted at intersections all over the area. Needless to say, the area immediately around Capitol Hill in DC is probably the safest area in any city in America. Still not sure what those 2000 or 3000 people do, but God bless em all.
And with that experience, I'm pretty sure Terry Gainer would be great at finding nothing to do for 6000 or 8000 of Chicago's finest in clout and do-nothing positions. Which would be just more of the same, no?
Typical Chicago Police officer response........pitiful. spit.
(James (citizen of Chicago 35 years)
11/18/2007 01:24:00 AM
James, now you go F* yourself!
Signed....Hank(CPD OFFICER)
One reason Ramsey didnt want to come back to Chicago is that he'd be forced to forfiet his pension during his tenure
"Frank (citizen of Chicago who is taking back the city)"
Take back the city from who???
19P
Thats funny, profiling ALL police based on the highly publicized actions of a few bad ones.
Sort of like the way the world looks at the American Black Male.
I wonder what this all means
Was that Radke or Main?
Hey Debbie---
I paid you for that lap dance at the Admiral last night.
Stop bashing me.
Pension???? Terry Gainer and Ramsey are on LOA and are accruing time toward pension asshats. I love that asshat thing.
Ramsey lost out to Hillard because of a call from Washington, his borther in law was a part of Clinton's cabinet, some sort od undersecretary.
You know, I am a female African-American police officer. Though I am not a regular, I do read maybe once or twice a month, but it never fails that every time I visit I see across your posts different notes about the P.O. who was imprisoned for defending himself in Iowa. This is an issue for us all, no matter what race. This is a true police issue!! Letters etc. may keep him strong, but he is still a police officer that is in prison, he has lost his job, his family has lost their livlihood and he is encaged. Can we all go to the next FOP meeting and demand a little more action and to get Mayor Daley, our sorry Governor, etc, involved in this fight. How would you feel if it were you. Who is to say that it may not be me or you tomorrow?
I would like you guys to put just as much effort into this as you put into the bullshit you lie about, create and post!
Ramsey was a good boss while he was here. The problem with a lot of us is, we wouldn't know a good boss if we fell on one!
To the poster who complained about "having to replace a bulletproof vest out of his own money," last time I checked, each officer here received at least $1,400.00 in uniform allowance checks. How and for WHAT you spend it on is entirely up to you. One would hope our own personal safety is worth more than a trip to the boats to throw that allowance check away. Between those checks and the quarterly "differential," which many officers don't even qualify for, you should have all the proper personal equipment you need to do your job, so stop whining.
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