That NASTY Four Letter Word
Adult public housing residents would eventually be required to work at least 20 hours a week or face eviction, under an unprecedented sweeping policy the Chicago Housing Authority is poised to approve.
"I feel all these things are in place for the betterment of the residents," said Mary Wiggins, a member of the CHA board and its Tenant Services Committee.
Wiggins, also a public housing resident, continued: "If there's no good reason for them [residents] not to work, they shouldn't be there."
We think if this could be worked into the proposal posted here a few days ago by a reader that all recipients of Public Aid be drug-tested every time we cut them a check, we would consider voting for this Mary Wiggins for mayor, governor and president all at once.
Anything to end the generations of leeches that currently suck up so much tax money and produce nothing except votes for the Daley Machine.
Anything to end the generations of leeches that currently suck up so much tax money and produce nothing except votes for the Daley Machine.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
83 Comments:
Tack on an additional proposal that anyone arrested and found guilty of a crime gets their welfare revoked.
The next question to ask is, what is the 'good' reason for a person to not work? I mean, I have stopped perfectly heathy individuals on the street that make statements to the effect that they have a disability and cannot work. They in turn state they collect a check from the government for it. Is this a good reason?
Oh Hell No!
Dat aint right!
You will solve all the money problems by gettiing these democratic do nothing drug adicts off their lazy asses.
Mayor daley sent this city in a downward spiral. Stop paying for your votes with my tax money you studdering idiot.
About fucking time.
Maybe they can get a job with the next 'Hired Truck' crew.
A city job means they would be drug tested and have to be there.
Right???
It;s about fucking time! People that I associate with have been saying this for years, including the drug testing. How about implementing a time limit on how long you can be a resident. If I remember correctly, the CHA projects and section 8 were started as a means for people to get back on their feet. They are not there for people to become lifelong residents.
HUH
20hrs? Could you imagine if they were asked to work a 6day work week?All hell would break loose.
Hell, required to work will rid the system of about 70% of the useless residents while drug testing will do away with the remaining 30%. Billions saved just like that.
enough of the ghetto rats will bitch and that policy will go bye bye.
Work! Wow! Add random drug testing and we'll have somrthing.
Please add on that they be re-examined to determine if they are really qualified to receive SSI as that is a big scam too.
There are MANY residents of the CHICAGO PUBLIC HOUSING that are WORKAHOLICS!
They hear the word WORK and they get drunk!
"Anything to end the generations of leeches that currently suck up so much tax money and produce nothing except votes for the Daley Machine."
And don't forget many many babies!
A 20 hour work week. Shit, I have done that in one day on this job.
The hardest part of working 20 hours a week is that they have to take a shower, wear pants that ain't showing their ass crack and put the crack pipe down for a while.
Don't see that happening. Who is suppose to hire a person who greets the customer with, "What they fuck do you want, Mother Fucker?"
I don't see a mad rush for job applications at the Chicago Board of Trade or the Four Seasons Hotel.
And the Jay's Potato Chip factory just closed up, so no more positons on the Flamin' Hot production line.
Stopped ol'girl and her convicted dope selling man in the projects. She had over $400 on her that she tolds me was from her gov check. To which I replied "when you gonna get your lazy ass a job"? To which she replied "why shoulds i gets a job when da gonna gives it to me for free"
Thats not right. The city owes them for all the abuse done to them over the years of substandard living conditions. Upgrades are needed. Plasma TVs, hot tubs,etc...
A Modest Proposal ...
Besides drug testing ... since these recipients of government aid are seemingly deemed to be worthy of this form of "income assistance," how about randomly selecting some residents for hair testing - and if there is any sign of alcohol or tobacco use (neither a necessity) at any point in the past, out you go? Any thoughts?
Have you ever heard of a section 3 for the trade unions. They find a ghetto rat sitting in the lobby, give him a radio and a shinny new reflective vest, and $12.00/hr to watch their vehicles from the rest of the rats. That buys alot of flamin' hot and grape.
Next thing you know the coppers in 016 will have to work 20 hours a week! Oh God the world is coming to an end!
My asthmas is actings up.
Whos gonna enforce the new rule?? The Chicago police that worked tehse areas ......laid down for good! Find some Cha guys to rehire we aint doing shit!
"I gots a job, I babysits my kids" or my personal favorite, "I can'ts work, I gets disability cause I gots asthma" Great idea but it'll never fly. There will be protests and boycotts by the good revs because that idea is RACIST!!!
From reading the comments here, many of you guys have the same attitude towards work as the project people.
The real hard part is getting up on time!
daley is giving the felons jobs in the city so that it helps them! Yea helps them figure out more ways to steal! wait a minute sorry daley has that covered in full! the city will be a learning experience in how to steal and extort billions!
oh lawrdy , eyez cants do no work ! the bunions on my big toe won't let me be on my feet fo mo' than 20 minutes ata time. oh lawrdy - lawrd have mercy. Imma votes fo someone who's gonna change this ....it's racism !
about time ! who's the genious that finally realized they were contributing to and not helping the problem?
Take a piss test and grab a broom !
"A 20 hour work week. Shit, I have done that in one day on this job.
The hardest part of working 20 hours a week is that they have to take a shower, wear pants that ain't showing their ass crack and put the crack pipe down for a while.
Don't see that happening. Who is suppose to hire a person who greets the customer with, "What they fuck do you want, Mother Fucker?"
I don't see a mad rush for job applications at the Chicago Board of Trade or the Four Seasons Hotel.
And the Jay's Potato Chip factory just closed up, so no more positons on the Flamin' Hot production line."
Actually the people who live in CHA are the ones propsoing a 20 hour work week. And to the one who poted the above please come to 4 oclock roll call in area 2 and say what you wrote you ignorant bitch
Big Al and Jessie will never agree to this!
"Flamin' Hot production line." !!!!! Excuse me, I just pissed myself while nearly laughing to death.
i'z sellz drugz...do's dat count az werk, foo...
HUH! WHAT DAT MEAN? DAT MEAN I GOTSA GIT A JOB? HUH! ON MY MOMA DATZ RACIST!
I bet folks here making negative comments are white and have not been discriminated against in the work force. The poor on Public Aid are not leeches, the rich (read here, mostly white) are the leeches who took the money out of South Side communities and made them a ghetto.
It's about FUCKING TIME. And seriously, 20 hours? That's it? We could do that standing on our heads. How about this? I'll work 50 hours a week and you buy me an even nicer house. And I'll even stay off drugs and never get arrested. Deal? What's that? I'm not enough of a shithead...? Huh. That's crazy talk.
I live in an area that has the new version of public housing called "Bickerdikes". I've noticed that many in my area have convicted felons residing in or paroled to the addresses. I was told by someone who handles the screening process for Bickerdike and Hispanic Housing, that convicted felons aren't allowed to reside in these buildings. I was curious how they slipped through the cracks. I also notice a certain "DEMOGRAPHIC" residing ion them. Go figure.
I was so depressed last night I called Lifeline.
Got a call center in Pakistan and told them I was feeling suicidal
They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck.
Say what you will,but they're not afraid of work. They'll lay down and go to sleep right next to it.
Next step is to revoke all the BS SSI the bums recieve. There is no reason 75% of these claims should be paid. Asthma doesnt mean you cant work, Drug addiction doesnt mean you should get a check and not have to work. SSI should be audited every 6 months to a year all these bums claiming to be disabled is BS.
12/14/2007 05:54:00 AM
HAHAHAHHHAAHAAA!!!!!!!!!
i bet the head of the CHA invested money in church's chicken. now that they are going to have an unending workforce, they will expand to the likes of mcdonald's and subway combined.
Yeah right, Work! I cantz read, I cantz work, I haz azmas, I haz headakes, My toze hurtz, etc.. I've heard them all before. System is broken and this fine city of ours lets the bullshit go on and on.
A job!!? Wut ah need a job fuh?? Man, y'all sum wack muhfuggaz!
An school!!? Wut, is you crazy??
How soon we all forget...the kids of union officials who were hired as "building inspectors," complete with city vehicles! I guess it all depends on one's definition of "work"....and let's not forget the "house mice" of 35th st. who work for some gold badge, while going to school evenings to obtain advanced degrees...do these people actually "work" CLOSED MARKET?
Do we really want these people contributing anything to the world?
Most are too stupid and it would take more people to supervise and motivate them to do anything.
You can't really be "drafted" into a functioning, contributing memeber of a free market economy. You have to volunteer.
I'd rather see a mandatory, random drug screen for everyone on welfare, WIC, SSI, etc. If we have to take a pee test for our paycheck, they should for theirs.
Jesse, Al and the Reverends will all liken mandatory work to slavery, since manual labor is all those slugs will be able to do.
Hey Al, by the way,,have you figured out which one of your staff members is going to sell you out to the Grand Jury? You can be George Ryan's cellmate in a year or so.
Problem - Don't you think this is going to turn into a jobs scam?
they have a disability but sure can run from the police...
HUH
12/14/2007 01:16:00 AM
LOL! HUH!
No wonder the hero went off to war. If Fitz indicts him, I'll laugh my bag off.
I couldn't believe it when I read it. It was buried on page one zillion and was only a little blurb. I hope the guys I stop who are 25 years old and in better shape then me, but are 'on disability' , are NEXT!
Hey, why is there a whore house operating at 3240 S Morgan. It actually has neon lights in the window. Somebody on the take????
Off Topic / Good Topic From SCS:
CONTRACT VIOLATION?
Ok sarge you arrive at work and the watch commander hands you a face sheet. You have read the allegation and the information provided states that 2 unk (M,F)/(white, black, Hispanic) uniformed offices searched complainants vehicle for no reason. You attempt to call the complainant on various occasions and only reach a voice mail where you leave several messages for him to contact you. You drive over to the complainants residence only to have someone answer the door who informs you "he aint around". You have sent the obligatory certified letter and track it on the USPS website. You obtain confirmation that the letter has been received and you have yet to hear from the complainant. 20 days have passed and you now need to close out this investigation. A reasonable amount of time and effort has been exhausted in the attempt to contact the complainant and to obtain a signed sworn affidavit.
Here are the facts as you know them:
1. the complainant alleges the accused are two unknown (any gender)/(any race) officers
2. the alleged incident occurred in your district
3. the complainant is uncooperative and therefore you are unable to obtain the signed sworn affidavit.
I would say this scenario typifies 9 out 10 CL numbers that I have received.
You are left with no choice but to prepare your summary digest including 4-5 attachments showing your attempts to contact complainant. The investigation is "UNFOUNDED" due to the lack of cooperation from the complainant. You send it through and it is kicked back because they want to see what you have done to identify the accused.
This is in my opinion is a major problem.
(50 ILCS 725/3.8)(b) Anyone filing a complaint against a sworn peace officer must have the complaint supported by a sworn affidavit.
In other words if the complaint is NOT supported by a signed affidavit the complaint does not exist. If the complaint does not exist they why should the accused of a non complaint be identified?
APPENDIX L
AFFIDAVITS IN DISCIPLINARY
INVESTIGATIONS
10. No officer will be required to answer any allegation
of misconduct unless it is supported by an
appropriate affidavit, except as specified in paragraphs
one through five above. In the event that
no affidavit is received within a reasonable time,
the investigation will be terminated and no record
of the complaint or investigation will appear on the officer’s Disciplinary History.
According to the Department Advocate we must make every effort to identify the involved officers. The officers have no recourse because the allegation can not be investigated and they will have an "UNFOUNDED" disposition in their CR history. In the past that would have been acceptable, however the number of complaints against an officer in a period of time is the issue regardless of disposition. Officers are being placed in the BIS and despite what the Department says it is a form of discipline.
In the above scenario the investigating sergeant discovers by PCAD that officers made a traffic stop and our complainant was ticketed for no DL and no insurance. The complainant was placed in custody (TVB) and vehicle was searched before being towed.
Had the complainant signed the affidavit the officers would have been exonerated.
FOP and PBPA need to push to have all complaints administratively closed when they are not supported by affidavit whether the accused are named or not. Again according to 50 ILCS 725/3.8 (b) Anyone filing a complaint against a sworn peace officer must have the complaint supported by a sworn affidavit. It stands to reason that minus the affidavit the complaint does not exist.
Did anyone see "Bowling For Columbine" by the great filmmaker Michael "Get me another meatball sandwich" Moore?
A woman's 6 year old boy shot a little white girl at school with his uncle's gun that he found in the house. Why?
The liberal Moore states because the mother was FORCED into Michigan's "Welfare to Work" program and could not stay at home to properly supervise the child.
(Not that she would have tossin' back a 40 ouncer or smokin' crack.)
God forbid you make welfare recipients work.
Now they may not have enough time or energy to spread their legs and make future welfare recipients.
THATS 20 HOURS LESS OF SELLIN CRACK, 20 HOURS LESS OF RUNNING FROM THE PO PO, 20 HOURS LESS OF SLEEPING, 20 HOURS LESS OF STEALIN,RAPING,BURNING,BABY MAKIN,CHIP EATIN,DRINKIN,GAMBLING,SHOOTING,PISSING IN DA ALLEY,ROBBIN,BURGLARIZING,DRIVING WHILE SUSP/REVOKED AND ON AND ON OH YEAH TALKIN TO JESSE. FU-K DAT.
From the Slum-Times article:
"Those exempted from the stringent 20-hour-a-week work policy include those 62 and older, the disabled . . . "
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"Stringent" - 20 hours a week?
NOW, they will all say they are disabled (with the help of free liberal attorneys)
AND get SSI benefits as well.
This is why my taxes keep going up. Parents need to instill a work ethic and a desire of self improvement and betterment.
I love it!
How about they work 40 hours a week and take the piss-test every month [paid out of THEIR salaries. Once again, they get a break on the taxpayers money who have to work 40+ hours a week to support their families AND this BULLSHIT? WTF?
20hrs? Could you imagine if they were asked to work a 6day work week?All hell would break loose.
who gets asked to work a 6 day work week? you dont dumbass. find me one week between sunday and saturday that you worked more than 5 days.
Well, let's see. If some of the lazy MF's we have on the CPD had to actually GO OUT ON THE STREET and WORK A MINIMUM OF 20 HRS., we'd have a whole lot of vacancies!
I've seen a lot of blatantly racist posts here, but from where I sit, some of the laziest MF's I've seen are city workers. Look at that recent Female CFD "Inspector" who was caught on camera GETTING HER HAIR DONE while working, walking around in FLIP FLOPS. I've seen traffic officers who don't write tickets, Park car officers who never seem to find an arrest to make in the parks they allegedly patrol, even in summer, etc. Lazy is wherever you wish to look for it. I expect a lot of welfare folks to be lazy, no education, parents didn't hold jobs, etc. But what I've seen from some of our City worker brothers and sisters out there beats all to shame. And let's not forget "hired truck" with the Mayor's former Bridgeport pinky ring wearers getting paid big money to have trucks "on standby" doing nothing all day, 5 days a week. For years. Those folks cost us all far more than the measly welfare benefits being paid to poor people now. If we're going to show outrage, it should be about the institutionalized laziness that City Hall has condoned through the various depts. for many, many years. And does anyone remember when the old time aldermen had their wives and daughters on payrolls for jobs they never even showed up for?
How many of THEM had to take a piss test? How many of THEM went to jail? Or were made to pay back the thousands of dollars the city paid their family members? If you think those poor black folk even take in a tenth of what so many white collar criminals have stolen from our City taxes right under everyone's noses (even the feds), you're a fool.
...If you think those poor black folk even take in a tenth of what so many white collar criminals have stolen from our City taxes right under everyone's noses (even the feds), you're a fool.
12/14/2007 10:15:00 PM
Hey Troll,
Name just one of those people you speak of (city workers, minus water dept scandal) that has criminal arrests/convictions for PCS, UUW, PSMV(or traspass), or even BATTERY to P.O.........
Oh, right, white collar crimes are expensive but basicly victimless.
Being disabled, poor, black, or whatever, does not put you at risk for becoming a violent offender!
Poor choices put you at risk for trouble.
I am white and work for a living, but I had just as equal an opportunity to become a drug addict or a habitual offender as any "poor black folk".
It's not about the money, it's about the mentality! HUH!
I bet folks here making negative comments are white and have not been discriminated against in the work force. The poor on Public Aid are not leeches, the rich (read here, mostly white) are the leeches who took the money out of South Side communities and made them a ghetto.
12/14/2007 10:50:00 AM
Really, so you hate the white man but you need him also? Re-read what the fuck you just posted asshole. Every ethnicity that moved into a neighborhood before the blacks kept them up, invested in them and they thrived. The blacks move in and the hood turns into a burnt out war zone. How is that the fucking fault of the white man? Get a clue, you stupid bastard. Look around you. Take responsibility for your own shit. Everybody that came before you did. We didn't take money out of YOUR neighborhood, we moved on to something else. What was left to you, YOU were supposed to invest in and keep up, you stupid prick.
You're fucking useless AND dumb...must be a "cultural" thing.
who gets asked to work a 6 day work week? you dont dumbass. find me one week between sunday and saturday that you worked more than 5 days.
12/14/2007 10:07:00 PM
When they cancelled my days off a couple years ago for the stupid world trade order convention. A few years ago, yes, but you asked to find "ONE WEEK" not a certain week. Also asshole, he was referring to the 6 days in a row schedule. If you weren't some dickhead worthless house bitch, you would have understood what he meant. Now go back under that desk you bitch!!
what is the solution? there is none. But one. The person whants to get out of the situation.
Anonymous said...
who gets asked to work a 6 day work week? you dont dumbass. find me one week between sunday and saturday that you worked more than 5 days.
12/14/2007 10:07:00 PM
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No dumbass, you are talking semantics. We are asked to work 48 hours straight before receiving our RDO's. Is that clear enough for you? Let's not play the "week" semantic Jedi Mind Trick.
The fact is our Work week for the most part is 6 days on. Saying well you only work 5 days in any calendar week is blowing smoke up your own ass and you should know it!
Anyone else gets their days off after those five days. We continue to work. So put that in your crackpipe and smoke it!
I kant wurk...i gots asmar!
this idea will never go through for one simple reason. the democratic party,mayor daley and these revs and community activists get their power by keeping certain members of the black community poor,dependant,and powerless on the government. could you imagine the backlash if a black politician told the community that you are in control of your own life and you need to step up and stop this "victim" mentality? this politician would be called a sell out,an uncle tom,and he would be accused of acting white. there is no reason why a perfectly healthy adult should get a disability check for asthma or anger management issues when they are perfectly healthy enough to sling dope and to get drunk all day. another thing that should be added is that if you are on public aid,the mass producing of kids has to stop. how many of us have gone into these houses on domestics where you see multiple kids running around,all by different men and one woman.the way i see it if you are not able to be a grown up and take care of your responsibilities,you should not be producing all these kids to get a government check.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I bet folks here making negative comments are white and have not been discriminated against in the work force. The poor on Public Aid are not leeches, the rich (read here, mostly white) are the leeches who took the money out of South Side communities and made them a ghetto.
12/14/2007 10:50:00 AM
NOT DISCRIMINATED AGAINST? Are you KIDDING me? I'd be a sgt now. Or at the very least a fireman. Or a mailman (it was made clear to not even bother applying for that one) I would have had free or heavily discounted college, like many of the minorities on my floor, and would also have enjoyed a discounted on-campus dorm. I would be a shoe-in for law school. I would be working days on management rather than working on 3rd watch. Perhaps that application to NAGIS would have been looked at, because a phone call (which I don't have anyway) is not enough...need to be darker than lily white... So don't cry to ME...life in general is not fair, but you don't see the working pale-faced people storming the gates with the race card. Plus, I'm sick of hearing about how black=poor. Bullcrap! There are tons of poor whites in appelachia, the south, hell, even in the midwest that don't deal drugs, shoot each other, and don't hide behind their situation. White old man mayor daley is the one who started stuffing CHA to the gills because it brought in federal money, and it was originally mixed race low income housing. But for some reason, the whites made it out, and were replaced by blacks. That's not my fault, the white's fault, your fault, or black's fault. Its the FAULT OF THE LAZY LEECHES LIVING THERE! IF THEY WERE PURPLE OR ORANGE THEY WOULD BE VIEWED JUST THE SAME BY PEOPLE THAT WORK TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH TAXES--VIEWED AS LEECEHS! They make YOU look bad, so why keep defending them with the race card? Reshuffle, my friend, your card is overplayed....
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at
the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as
a permanent form of government.'
'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
treasury.'
From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who
promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result
that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,
which is always followed by a dictatorship.'
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years'
'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the
following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage'
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul,
Minnesota, points out some interesting fac ts concerning the 2000
Presidential election:
Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare...' Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between
the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already
having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years.
another nasty four letter word: BOFO
Well, let's see. If some of the lazy MF's we have on the CPD had to actually GO OUT ON THE STREET and WORK A MINIMUM OF 20 HRS., we'd have a whole lot of vacancies!
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I was not to Lazy to get up in the morning and take all the tests required to be a Chicago Police Officer. Not to mention, the college I needed that finally got my Master's degree.
I came on the job - worked in the ghetto, and was received by hate and violence from the REAL welfare recipients.
NOW, you will excuse me while I do absolutely NOTHING for these mutts. If you don't like it, go FUCK YOURSELF and go work in a soup kitchen in your off hours so you can service these assholes even more.
Heeba Hobba Hooba..I aints workin!!!
Were the only country with 400-500 lb poor people.
You mane really "work"? Even though they are collecting their SSD for some asshat disability or SSI for being a drunk or addict? This ought to be good.
THATS 20 HOURS LESS OF SELLIN CRACK, 20 HOURS LESS OF RUNNING FROM THE PO PO, 20 HOURS LESS OF SLEEPING, 20 HOURS LESS OF STEALIN,RAPING,BURNING,BABY MAKIN,CHIP EATIN,DRINKIN,GAMBLING,SHOOTING,PISSING IN DA ALLEY,ROBBIN,BURGLARIZING,DRIVING WHILE SUSP/REVOKED AND ON AND ON OH YEAH TALKIN TO JESSE. FU-K DAT.
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yo, you forgot domesitcating.
Otherwise that is damn funny!
If ray ray and junebug want to use MY tax dollars at least work for them.
The problem....the media, public, etc.. They don't realize the tremendous abuse that occurs with this welfare. There are 18 year old kids on it. What do they do all day? Play basketball!
BOFO= Big On Fucking Over!
Y'all is bogus as hell. How is peoples like me posed to work when I is on disability because the POLICE beat my ass so bad that I can't work. You Dig!? Y'all cats need to smarten up. Y'all can't make us work and y'all can't take away our monies. Y'all still owe us. I be got post traumatic slave syndrome too dogs. Dorothy Tillman diagnosed me and shit. You dig!?
I bet folks here making negative comments are white and have not been discriminated against in the work force. The poor on Public Aid are not leeches, the rich (read here, mostly white) are the leeches who took the money out of South Side communities and made them a ghetto.
question?
What white leeches.. took who's money out of what south side communities and who made the communities a ghetto??
I'm white and I know some white folk on disability and SSI and I'm am just as disgusted with these jagoffs and any other worthless piece of sh*t who just don't want to work, or work for (gasp!) minimum wage. Let's not forget most of these people are hs educated or drop outs and never tried to further themselves w/ a degree or trade. It is so much easier to have the "government" pay you for doing nothing.
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