Kill All the Lawyers
- For a quarter of a century, defense lawyers Dale Coventry and Jamie Kunz were bound by the rules of law to hold onto a secret that now could mean freedom for a man serving a life sentence for murder.
The secret -- memorialized in a notarized affidavit that they locked in a metal box -- was that their client, Andrew Wilson, admitted that he shotgunned to death a security guard at a McDonald's restaurant on the South Side in January 1982.
Bound to silence by attorney-client privilege, Kunz and Coventry could do nothing as another man, Alton Logan, 54, was tried and convicted instead.
What is truly amazing to us is it seems these two scumbag lawyers look like they want to be praised for keeping an innocent man behind bars for 26 years because they wrote a notarized affidavit in 1982 and kept it in a locked box since then.
We'll say this - Doctor/Client privilege can be pierced in extreme circumstances. Under certain conditions, the doctor is obliged by law to report certain things. Husband/Wife privilege can be broken, most times voluntarily by one party or the other. You can't tell us that Lawyer/Client privilege is the only thing impregnable in all circumstances? The law needs to be reformed if so.
What if Alton Logan was sentenced to death? What if they were marching him up to "Old Sparky" or strapping him to the gurney and Andrew Wilson was still alive? Kunz and Coventry still would have kept their mouths shut? They had information to free Logan 26 years ago and didn't.
So who does Alton Logan sue now? Kunz and Coventry? Wilson's "estate"? Illinois?
We hope Logan runs into Burge at the cemetery and joins him in pissing on Wilson's grave.
We'll say this - Doctor/Client privilege can be pierced in extreme circumstances. Under certain conditions, the doctor is obliged by law to report certain things. Husband/Wife privilege can be broken, most times voluntarily by one party or the other. You can't tell us that Lawyer/Client privilege is the only thing impregnable in all circumstances? The law needs to be reformed if so.
What if Alton Logan was sentenced to death? What if they were marching him up to "Old Sparky" or strapping him to the gurney and Andrew Wilson was still alive? Kunz and Coventry still would have kept their mouths shut? They had information to free Logan 26 years ago and didn't.
So who does Alton Logan sue now? Kunz and Coventry? Wilson's "estate"? Illinois?
We hope Logan runs into Burge at the cemetery and joins him in pissing on Wilson's grave.
Labels: we got nothing
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
102 Comments:
let me get this straight
YOU WANT LAWYER PRIVILEGES BROKEN?
BUT YOU DONT WANT OFFICERS BREATH TEST USED UNDER DURESS?
OK....
I GET IT
WHEN A LAW DOESNT MAKE YOU FEEL NICE AND WARM ITS HORRIBLE BUT HEAVEN FORBID THE BAD GUYS HAVE RIGHTS.
I CAN TELL YOU HAVE NEVER HAD A CASE PUT ON YOU BY IAD OR A SUSPENSION WITH THE CLAUSE 30 PENDING!
AM I WRONG
I bet if a client said to his lawyers "Fuck you motherfuckers...I'm not going to pay you" they would be running to the judge to get out of the case and they would have no problem telling the judge why!!!
Wow , first I've heard of this!
Jon Burge is looking better every week. Im retired way west of Chicago. I'd like to contact that
JON BURGE FAN CLUB blogger about
starting a JB lodge out here!
Nicely Done, SCC....nicely done
THANKS!
i told the priest about the other woman-- thank god he didn't spill the beans at bingo.
Was the "graeter good" served? No, do they sould have sopke up. Attorney Cllient privlige is not trumped by the fate of a human. These lawyers give good lawyers a bad name. Doctors priests enyoy a privlige but Lawyers arrn't bound by the same strict moral code of absolute silence.
What about a lawyer's duty to the court, to the justice system, to justice itself?
Were these defense attorney's the only persons, other than the offender, who were aware of the facts which exonerated an innocent man?
And, if so, didn't they have a sworn duty to provide to the defense attorney's of the wrongly accused individual evidence that contradicted that possessed by those lawyers accusing and prosecuting same?
What contacts, connections or communications can be shown to have occurred between the two lawyers possessing the evidence in question and the lawyers, both prosecuting attorneys and defense attorneys, concerning the accused individual currently incarcerated?
Attorney/client privilege is no little matter, perhaps not as passionately inviolate as the relationship between priest and confessor, but vital, nonetheless.
The devil, being in the details, seems to have a hand in this one.
I think they waited the 26 years with their bullshit excuse to collect a larger 7 figure settlement and get a larger 33.3%. It was a nice retirement plan for these two shiester attorneys.
Better than our pension plan!
makes your wander how may other notarized affidavits are in lock boxes...waiting for a convict to die and free another convict?
the lawyers should be held acountable. How in your right mind could you let someone sit for that may years..and not say anything? what if this guy died while in jail? the lawyers should disbarred and held liable. what a joke.
One of a BILLIONS of reasons to kill all lawyers:
A transgender woman in California has gone to court, claiming that a Catholic-affiliated hospital discriminated against her when it denied her request for breast augmentation surgery.
The man-turned-woman, Charlene Hastings, filed the complaint in December and said she wants to have the surgery because it will make her look more feminine, but the hospital has refused to operate because she was not born a woman.
Hastings, who already has had one major sex-change surgery, claims that Seton Medical Center in Daly City, Calif., would not allow her plastic surgeon to operate on a transgender person.
"I honestly believe that God has plans for me to have this surgery," Hastings told FOXNews.com.
"I felt simply less than equal," she said. "Here I am, a woman. I had the reassignment surgery, and not to allow me this right, I felt violated."
-------------------------------
Go to www.foxnews.com and take a peek at this hosebags photos. She looks like Clinger from M.A.S.H. 4077. I guess if we had Hillary Medical Care this transgender asshat would have a free set of boobs!
If I was this fool, I would try to get a nose reduction surgery first. It has a honker the size of a banana, but then again maybe he-she likes that.
This guy needs a good lawyer, so don't kill them ALL yet:
MAN ARRESTED FOR ASSAULTING FOUR PEOPLE WITH A CHAINSAW
NEW BLOOMFIELD, Mo. — A man staying at a homeless shelter has wounded four people in a chainsaw and knife attack.
The Callaway County sheriff's office says 28-year-old Matthew Watkins is facing four counts each of first-degree assault and armed criminal action for the attack at the Mid-America Care Center. The homeless shelter is connected with Christian television station KNLJ.
Sheriff Dennis Crane says two victims were cut by a chainsaw and two others by a knife. Three of the victims were taken to hospitals, and Crane says at least one of those is in serious condition.
The sheriff's office says Watkins is originally from St. Louis. He is being held on $600,000 bond.
_________________________________
WOW a madman with a chain saw. Sounds like a few guys I know who use to work Public Housing South!
SCC IS BECOMING THE NEW DRUGE REPORT:
BY FRANK MAIN AND STEVE WARMBIR Staff Reporters/fmain@suntimes.com swarmbir@suntimes.com
Corey Flagg just a dirty cop or a lawman at heart?
Flagg is a former Chicago Police officer headed to prison in about two weeks to serve a 9½-year sentence for robbing drug dealers.
But on Jan. 11 -- while free on bond -- he was playing cop again.
Chicago Police think he made an anonymous 911 call tipping officers that a car parked near 107th and Wentworth contained drugs.
"That is the car," Flagg yelled to officers from a white Ford Thunderbird before driving off, according to a police report.
The officers searched the car, but didn't find any drugs or make any arrests. They recognized Flagg and reported him to their superiors, who notified the feds.
Federal authorities don't suspect he was doing anything nefarious, like trying to set up a rival. They just think he was trying to help the police.
'Being a good citizen'
"It was more on the order of being a good citizen," said his attorney, Jeff Steinback.
At his sentencing, Flagg said he became a cop to do good, but greed got the best of him. He's gratified to assist federal investigators as part of his guilty plea, Steinback said, adding, "I think he feels he's on the right side of things."
During Flagg's sentencing, U.S. District Judge Ronald Guzman summed up the good and bad in the former officer and his four co-defendant cops this way: "Almost schizophrenic."
-------------------------------
Posted here on SCC long before the newspapers printed it! You scooped them all SCC!
Before you kill all lawyers, can somebody borrow my ex-wife some cash so she can finish law school?
Thanks!
If your so inclined to post, thought this was a nice link to rile up the packer fans today. http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb132/Tinabears328/toilet.jpg?t=1200000320
They state the charges against Burge were proven? When? Burge was fired in a hearing in which the outcome was already predetermined. Everyone knew it, including Burge. The hearing was nothing more than a publicity stunt to give the lawyers a platform and make the city look good. Burge has never been charged with any crime and the Wilson brother’s convictions have been upheld by every court in the land.
If you'd like to expound on this, we'd love to hear the details of this case at this site:
The Gronder Effect
www.grondereffect.com
It may may sense to those in your local area the way you write it here, but if you do post in at The Gronder Effect, it may be best to expound on the case from the start.
Thanks
How about the scumbag Wilson himself. Two weeks ago the Tribune and the Reader were praising him for being the person who broke the Burge story into the open. Yet he takes this secret to the grave. What would the state have given him, another "life" term? He was a pos in life and is also one in death.
SCC, Your post is very insightful. I do not know how these two assholes can live with themselves. They need to be disbarred immediately.
Better question would be "Why did the SAO prosecute Logan when Edgar Hope said he wasn't involved and the shotgun was found in Wilson's possession? Seems like there was plenty of evidence at the time to exonerate Logan without these two attorneys coming forward and fingering their client. Even if they had come forward all Wilson had to do was deny and without any collaboration from him all that would have happened is that they would have lost their jobs and and licenses to practice.
They did the right thing. Too bad Logan can't sue the former States Attorney for malicious prosecution.
Do you believe teh scum-times is supporting Corey Flagg as a "cop at heart" and doing the right thing by calling 911 on bad guys ???? This paper supports any criminal even a cop turned criminal.. I think the times got this from your site SCC.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/749503,CST-NWS-crooked20.article
They are all scum,if you have ever done police work you know that,fuck m all
I think they waited the 26 years with their bullshit excuse to collect a larger 7 figure settlement and get a larger 33.3%. It was a nice retirement plan for these two shiester attorneys.
Better than our pension plan!
1/20/2008 03:10:00 AM
Hey Short Stuff,
What "settlement" are you talking about? The two idiot lawyers don't stand to make any $ settlement. If I were imprisoned for 26 years because they would not step up and tell the truth, I'd sue them. These two asshole lawyers have a lot to worry about. Your pension is far better than whatever it is they have to look forward to.
Sincerely,
Dorkus Giganticus
For some reason that it a complete mystery to me, some of your readers seem to think that this revelation about Andrew Wilson committing a murder that someone did 26 years in prison for somehow helps Jon Burge. Why? Burge was fired for what happened in the aftermath of Wilson's arrest for the murder of two police officers. The Alton Logan case means nothing for Burge. However, it is just another old case/disgrace investigated by CPD where the wrong man went to prison. Tooting the Logan case as a good thing for Burge is pretty damn stupid.
As an interesting side note, the Rules Of Professional Conduct dictates that the attorney/client privilege survive even death itself. Thus, had the deceased client not instructed the attorneys to produce this information after his death, it would not have come to light. While you bash them, they did their duty under the law. Moreover, they probably had a large role in convincing this individual to come forward after death.
You can bash these guys and the rule itself, but the attorney/client privilege is as sacared as the doctor/patient privilege. They did what is right under the law, and I'm sure it killed them to have to do it.
This is one of those rare cases where the existence of the rule had a negative impact. Too bad! The greater good is served by maintaining the privilege and ensuring that what you tell your attorney will remain confidential.
- A Lawyer who knows
If I recall correctly John Conroy wrote a story in the Reader recently, which lamented on the passing of Andrew Wilson and all but declared he was a fellow that the community as a whole should look up too.
Flint Taylor and Jon Loevy praised Wilson in both the Reader story and in the Tribune and Sun Times when commenting on his death.
It appears that Wilson was just another big-time piece of shit who did not care about the people who he murdered and his so-called friends who he let sit in jail for 20 years for a crime they did not commit.
I would hope some one who ask Conroy, Taylor and Loevy about Wilson now?
But then again it is always been about the money and not justice.
Let me get this straight. An attorney can keep this under his hat because attorney-client privileges, but we are obligated to report any wrongdoing we see or are aware of by our co-workers?? NOT A CHANCE! An innocent man sits in prison for 26 yrs and the attorneys for the real offender look like heroes. F*&K THEM!
typical of this country and lawyers in general. This shit happens all the time. Lawyers are the biggest scums of the earth
hey hater, when a guy is in prison 26yrs for a crime he doesnt commit, yeah i think those privileges should be broken. WOW, You are one of those liberal fucks that believes the shit these attorneys tell u
One of my biggest jagoff lawyer associate's in the metro area is none other than...Flint Taylor.
I CAN TELL YOU HAVE NEVER HAD A CASE PUT ON YOU BY IAD OR A SUSPENSION WITH THE CLAUSE 30 PENDING!
AM I WRONG
1/20/2008 12:15:00 AM
Yes, because everyone knows that IAD routinely "puts a case on" completely innocent officers just for shits and giggles.
BY FRANK MAIN AND STEVE WARMBIR Staff Reporters/fmain@suntimes.com swarmbir@suntimes.com
Corey Flagg just a dirty cop or a lawman at heart?
The officers searched the car, but didn't find any drugs or make any arrests. They recognized Flagg and reported him to their superiors, who notified the feds.
Officers be aware of the above statement "the officers searched the car, but didn't find drugs..."
This is how the PRESS will distort things to better serve THEIR needs, and not the needs of the police.
That statement is an ABSOLUTE LIE, and Frank Main is 100% WRONG on this.
I know the cop that was involved in this (BM) and he DID NOT SEARCH THE CAR or go near the car. They thought it was some kind of set up, or some sort of tomfoolery was invovled and they did not do anything.
They DID report it to the W/C, who in turn provided it to the chain of command, and then somebody informed SCC.
Officers, if you do not realize it by now, THE PRESS and THE ASA's are NOT your friends.
Be warned....
More quality detective work.
TOO FUNNY!!!!:
Anonymous said...
Before you kill all lawyers, can somebody borrow my ex-wife some cash so she can finish law school?
Thanks!
1/20/2008 04:12:00 AM
_________________________________
Easy there Drew Peterson, First we have to find this run-a-way wifey-poo then you can send her back to law school. Then instead of Janitor In The Drum, you can have Lawyer In The Drum!!!!
Well you give police officers a "bad spelling" name! You asshat! Now go back to public school!
**********************************
Anonymous said...
Was the "graeter (greater) good" served? No, do they sould (should)have sopke (spoken) up. Attorney Cllient (Client) privlige (privilege) is not trumped by the fate (faith) of a human. These lawyers give good lawyers a bad name. Doctors priests enyoy a privlige (privilege) but Lawyers arrn't (aren't) bound by the same strict moral code of absolute silence.
1/20/2008 02:51:00 AM
Maybe a little less hair gel Mr. college kid! And I think I have read some of your case reports, they contain the same spelling! I think you had one too many blunts down at SIU.
DO you really want to kill ALL lawyers? Janet Reno is an attorney. Do you really want to remove this woman from the available dating pool of women? Woooohoooooo a real hottie!
Mayor Daley passes away one day after Bill Clinton passes away and goes to heaven.
Daley runs into Clinton in Heaven. Daley tells Clinton, I can't wait to meet the Virgin Mary. Clinton looks at Daley, gives his famous eye wink and grins....then tells Daley your one day too late, but you can now meet Mary!
I heard the only way you can kill an attorney is either a wooden stake through the heart or a silver bullet.
This should not have been privileged information. It was for a crime other than the one they represented him on. I've arrested people when they walked out of courtrooms and in one case his attorney told the judge he did not want the person talking to me and the judge told the attorney he didn't represent him on the new case therefore he would not order me not to talk with the person.
THIS WORKING NO CLOUT POLICE OFFICER FROM EDISON PARKS SAYS:
GO JON BURGE,
JON BURGE FOR PRESIDENT AND SEISER FOR MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY.
In what the world is calling the largest mass suicide in history, 730,000 lawyers jumped to their death today. This took place after a new law took place banning the lawyers from taking 33 1/3% from clients lawsuit winnings.
to 3:10am, nice moniker, but did you forget these two were PDs at the time......what settlement and 33.3%are you talking about; did you stay past closing again...moron..
Better question would be "Why did the SAO prosecute Logan when Edgar Hope said he wasn't involved and the shotgun was found in Wilson's possession? Seems like there was plenty of evidence at the time to exonerate Logan without these two attorneys coming forward and fingering their client. Even if they had come forward all Wilson had to do was deny and without any collaboration from him all that would have happened is that they would have lost their jobs and and licenses to practice.
They did the right thing. Too bad Logan can't sue the former States Attorney for malicious prosecution.
====
So you think Hope told the SA that Logan didn't do anything - a statement that would prove Hope was there at the McDonalds?
Remember, Hope's attorney is fighting the admission of this "notarized affidavit" in court, because Hope is still figthing his case and the affidavit presumably names him as well.
And according to the article, witness(es) placed Logan at the McDonalds doing the robbery..
You think that is malicious prosecution?
SCC
NEW TOPIC for tomorrow . . .
This is unbelievable.
If you go to the Department's Intranet, Go to the Department's Administration page were it shows all the exempts pictures.
Find "Harold HOHM", he is no longer a commander of the unit.
HE HAS BEEN MADE A "CHIEF".
Un-fucking-believable ! !
Our tax dollars are paying a guy over $160,000 a year to be in command of about 8 people.
When the city says we don't have the money to give working police officers a raise, here is one more reason to say "go fuck yourself".
Copy of e-mail sent to:
http://www.bettergov.org/report_corruption.html
Harold Hohm was a commander of the helicopter unit making approximately $145,000 a year.
The payroll designation is known as a "D-6" on the police department. Hohm was now made a "Chief", a "D-8" position, one of only 3 on the department.
Hohm is being paid over $160,000 a year to command a helicopter unit which has no more than 6 or 8 members.
Something really stinks with the city. The exempt ranks of the police department are given these huge raises so they can retire with super-large pensions.
OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC OFFENDER
(ALSA/ Association of Licenced Scam Artist)
Speaking of Lawyers, Sat. Trib has a story of two former Public Defenders who knew of a man's innocence for 26 years, said nothing and let him rot in jail. The most outragous statement was made by Dale Coventty, one of the PDs that kept quiet for 26 yesrs who stated "the procecution shuld put on it's WHITE HAT and get this innocent man out". Coventry and Janie Dunz, his scam partner, could have done this 26 years ago.
Since when does rules, made up by other scam artist to protect themselves, protect the guilty and prosecute the innocent. They had the key but they themselves elected to keep this innocent (of this crime anyway) in jail for 26 years.
Are these the same lawyers for Andrew Wilson, convicted of killing two Police Officers and whining that he was a victm of the Burge portable electric generator. Coventry and Kunz tortured an innocent man without using the alleged Burge generator and this tjorture has be ongoing for 26 years.
Off topic---SCC, you have been listed in Chicago magazine's Feb. issue(p.59)... Lets becareful about our comments this is a liberal news source and this publicty is bound to get more hits from non-LE personel...
Lawyers are the scum of the earth!
Not sure any of you guys understand the perspective here, so I'll lay it out for you.
The attorneys have a duty to do no harm to their client.
This is not just a matter of them saying something that gets the other guy off. This is a matter of them saying somethign that sends their client up on a charge which he does not yet face.
Put another way. Say your client is an SOS officer, and he and a bunch of SOS guys get put up on Federal charges. Everybody gets their own attorney.
Your client tells you that he was involved in one of the capers alleged, and and that one of the others accused for the caper was not involved whatsoever.
Your lawyer is supposed to go to the judge and give you up to get somebody else off?
Think again.
On the other hand, they cannot knowingly advance a false case before the court. So they can't argue to the court that you were not involved whatsoever, if you've already told them you were.
In the Wilson case, it looks like the confession came after he was already convicted, so they didn't have to go and lie to a judge. They just had to not go and say anything.
It might be a line that some of you won't be able to see, but as far as I can tell, that's the line that they faced.
Reason #742097 that you don't let your kids grow up to be criminal defense attorneys.
This shows that Andrew Wilson was a very dishonest man. This should negate any claim that Wilson or his brother made against Burge. This should negate any and all claims against Burge because all of the defendents fell in right behind Wilson who is now proven to be a liar, along with their attorneys who wee chump suckers and no money should be paid out to any plaintifs. But we forgot about Eddie Burke, the famous stealer of tax money. What he doesn't shove in his pockets he gives to assholes.
DON'T BELEIVE THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE RIGHTS BULLSHIT. IT MEANS NOTHING, IT IS A LIE. IT WAS MADE UP BY WHORE COPPERS AND WHORE LAWYERS.
When did the two lawyers discover Wilson committed a murder in January? Officers Fahey and O'Brien were murdered by the Wilson brothers in February.
Yuo know, if this City, County, State, and Country wasn't so fuckin LIBERAL, all this crap wouldn't have happened, and wouldn't continue to happen. The Commie-CRATS NEVER place the blame on who really deserves it, for the sake of political gain.
Let me lay it out for you asshatbreath!
Re:
Anonymous said...
to 3:10am, nice moniker, but did you forget these two were PDs at the time......what settlement and 33.3%are you talking about; did you stay past closing again...moron..
1/20/2008 01:23:00 PM
---------------------------------
They were public defenders for the criminal charges, now that they are retired they can sue for the wrongful imprisonment and collect millions for their client and a 33.3% for themselves, you asshat!
So smarty hair gel pants, know what your talking about before you open your free restaurant mouth and leave without a tip for the waitress!
- A Lawyer who knows
Oh boo hoo, these shills had many sleepless nights because of their lack of ethical courage. A great miscarriage of justice took 20 something years of a man's life away from him because of two cowards hid behind a privilege. If the two of them would have done the right thing and acted like a man, they would have been fine.
And yes, I do sleep like a log, each and every night....
AM I WRONG
1/20/2008 12:15:00 AM
YES! And an idiot!!!
Off Topic: So who is the new DUI King (or Queen)?
SCC,
Love you,but you are wrong on this one. Never should any attorney confidence be breached by anyone. Lawyers might be whores but they are a necessary evil in our profession.
The ARDC is going to be very busy with some of the things that are popping up these days.
exempts like Holm are given giant raises and pensions so they can kick part of it back to the emocRAT Party. Has been goin on for decades.
You all are overlooking the obvious, a false cofession to exonorate a cohort when there is no way to refute it or punish the confessor.If I were the state I would take a serious look at this aspect first. Where and when were these two together? After all we already know Wilson was a liar, murderous, piece of trash. I wouldn't put it past him or his shysters to cook this up so they can sue the state on behalf of the wrongfully convicted.Also since Wilson has been dead over a month why wait till now? If they really were in it for the justice they should have been in a judges chambers while Andrew was giving out his death rattle.
Ald. Ed Burke, the Limey, Not an Irishman, has been a ridiculous example of Chicago Politics for far too many decades now. His Goose-Fat ban made us the laughing stock of the Country. He is a buffoon the likes of Sharpton, Kusinich, & Co. Heard all he did was answer phones in the Youth Dicision when on CPD. Political Police. Never a real cop, just a clout-boy.
0648pm...i left a tip, you took it for your cocktail fund.....this guy is going to hire the idiots who kept him in jail.?....you must be a white shirt...(usually a witness cannot be the lawyer, but hey, i am sure you know a way around that too from your days as a chaser for grodner, you are the asshat)...
The six year old child that was shot in the head during a home invasion has been up graded from critical condition. The family and medical staff stated he is making good progress.
This is the same child that the Scum times reported as dead on their web site.
Cronin Michael Executive Asst Dept Of Police $117,648 02/01/07 City of Chicago
Murphy Joseph Commander Dept Of Police $129,720 07/13/71 City of Chicago
here is another guy to check on.
1971 or like 2006
look into his pay little fishy
1/20/08 3:45:
Feb 09 1982,
Fahey and O'Brien were gunned down by Andrew and Jackie Wilson. The officers were taken to Little Company of Mary Hospital where they were cared for by Nurse Smith, Finneran, and nurse supervisor Marylou Dowd, The ER doctor was Mike O'donoghue.
Mayor Jane Byrne came to the hospital and gave the infamous
"go get em" order. RIP William and Richard and to nurse supervisor Dowd, you are all missed at LCM. JD,KG,LN, and the girls. God Bless.
"Something really stinks with the city. The exempt ranks of the police department are given these huge raises so they can retire with super-large pensions."
You finally figured it out? Then start with the Sgt's test asshat!
SCC,
Love you,but you are wrong on this one. Never should any attorney confidence be breached by anyone. Lawyers might be whores but they are a necessary evil in our profession.
=====================
Tell that to Alton Logan who spent 26 years behind bars getting poked in the ass doing another jagoffs time.
Re:
Anonymous said...
0648pm...i left a tip, you took it for your cocktail fund.....this guy is going to hire the idiots who kept him in jail.?....you must be a white shirt...(usually a witness cannot be the lawyer, but hey, i am sure you know a way around that too from your days as a chaser for grodner, you are the asshat)...
1/20/2008 10:09:00 PM
________________________________
Sorry, couldn't buy a drink with the 25 cents you left asshat! Your a tool dude! A hair gel TRU troll. Go get a life and give your right lubed fist a break. Maybe brag about your big 2 bags of weed pinch to some bar groupie!
As someone who was in 006 when this happened, STOP yourself before you expound on how this P.O.S. Alton Logan should get a good attorney. point #1 2 asholes stickup the McDonalds and kill the off duty CCSP and take his gun, both Alton and Edgar Hope were involved in the robbery/homicide, who fired the shot means nothing (felony murder). both subjects were on the bus together at 79th and the Dan Ryan Expy. when PPO James Doyle and his partner are stopped by a victim who points to Rabbit (HOPE) and relates that he is the one who robbed him a while back (sorry I don't remember how long ago the strong arm robbery ocurred before the stop.)Doyle and his FTO board the bus and as they approach the rear of the bus, where Alton and Hope are seated, the FTO see's Alton pass some thing to Hope, Hope pulls a gun and shoots PPO Doyle (Fatally) then engages the FTO in a shoot out on the bus which spilled out into the street, the FTO shoots Hope twice but the asshole survives. ansd in the commotion Alton Logan slips Away but is later apprehended. Investigation reveals that Hope had the murdered McDonalds guards gun on him and that LOGAN PASSED HIM ANOTHER GUN (WHICH HE TRIED TO KILL THE FTO WITH after dropping his original weapon,as if he was giving up). So now you have the rest of the story (thanks Paul Harvey). SO Please stop PITY FOR ALTON LOGAN, AS YOU ARE MAKING THIS OFFICER IN THE KNOW, VIOLENTLY SICK.
Off Topic: So who is the new DUI King (or Queen)?
1/20/2008 08:15:00 PM
probably someone from 013 midnights
Murphy Joseph Commander Dept Of Police $129,720 07/13/71 City of Chicago
here is another guy to check on.
1971 or like 2006
look into his pay little fishy
1/20/2008 10:18:00 PM
Kind of interesting that you can injure your hand and have to settle for disability, or get shot in the face and have the Department turn it's back on you, but if you are a Commander in a wheelchair, that's fine and dandy!!!! Nothing against that Commander, but what a HORRIBLE double standard!
Of course, the Tribune uses the article to attack Burge. And note that Richard Kling, who is trying to prove his client, Hope, is innocent, will object to the use of the affadavit. Kling, of course, assisted douchbag Daniel Salley, who shot Joe Airhart, at trial. Yes, Kling, you are a lawyer and a jagoff too.
By the way, "hater - 12:15," your logic doesn't follow. The breath test is a matter of a 5th amendment right to not incriminate. In this matter, the affadavit could have been used to exonerate an innocent man. The privilege would still prevent the statement to be used in any prosecution against Wilson. Go back to law school.
QUESTION ABOUT THE 6 YEAR OLD`CHILD.
Newspapers are reporting the 6 year old shot was shot during a home invasion for narcotics and money (a drug house).
So shouldn't the parents be charged for putting this child in danger by having this child in a drug house?
If they don't charge the parents, this means if the child survives it will go right back into the drug house.
I am sure that the child's medical bills (close to a million bucks) are being paid by us the taxpayers. Nice that the parents can get away with it.
No one likes lawyers but
no one has commented...both Coventry and Kunz were Assistant Public Defenders when they represented Wilson.
Want to get lawyers? How about one at a time. Vote for anyone but Milan.
"On the other hand, they cannot knowingly advance a false case before the court. So they can't argue to the court that you were not involved whatsoever, if you've already told them you were."
I am sure there is not a lawyer out there that has done this. I am sure they are all the gaurdians of the public trust. I am sure they are all pure as the driven snow and it is not just about the money!
I told the other woman about the priest...hahahHAhhaHaHHa
Rumor in 004 is that everyone on tact and gangs is leaving if they screw over a certain sgt. that stood his ground with a captain and lt. and attempted to protect some police officers. Figures, a sgt that does his job and does what is right and the bosses want to screw him over.
Frank Main is SCC's bitch
Harry the Hat is "taken care" of because he was responsible for selling out the captains during contract negotiations about 12 years ago.
The only injustice here is that Logan wasn't executed.
My GOD in heaven, how could they sleep?
Daley is still sucking the pension dry. Making crazy new promotions that never even existed before. Those are facts and these are your facts girls and boys. Stop writing tickets. Period. Continue to arrest people if you can make overtime. Take that money and invest it yourselves. Real Estate. C'mon, you are the smartest group of men and women I have ever known. We are not all Marines. But we can pretend.
I'm old. Someday when you are old, you'll realize sometimes a thing has to be done, just because it's right.
Are all of the lawyers dead yet? Still waiting.
TO 01-20-08,10:50:00pm:
Thanks for setting us straight on alton logan.I remember when the the incident happened and while reading this blog I keep thinking,I hope those concerned about logans rights are not the police.I for one could give a fuck about that piece of shit spending all that time in jail.He's not that innocent....Thanks again.
mike cronin?! What a JOKE!
Copy of e-mail sent to:
http://www.bettergov.org/report_corruption.html
Harold Hohm was a commander of the helicopter unit making approximately $145,000 a year.
The payroll designation is known as a "D-6" on the police department. Hohm was now made a "Chief", a "D-8" position, one of only 3 on the department.
Hohm is being paid over $160,000 a year to command a helicopter unit which has no more than 6 or 8 members.
Something really stinks with the city. The exempt ranks of the police department are given these huge raises so they can retire with super-large pensions.
##############################
YOU ARE SO WRONG, why don't you look up his pay grade in the budget, check your facts before you post OUT AND OUT LIES on this blog...
Find "Harold HOHM", he is no longer a commander of the unit.
HE HAS BEEN MADE A "CHIEF".
********************
No he hasn't, someone in HQ keeps putting that photo in and it is continually requested that it be taken out.
He is the Chief Pilot, not a Chief. I am sure whoever puts that photo in all the time is either ignorant of the fact, or just trying to stir up trouble.
Anonymous said...
Rumor in 004 is that everyone on tact and gangs is leaving if they screw over a certain sgt. that stood his ground with a captain and lt. and attempted to protect some police officers. Figures, a sgt that does his job and does what is right and the bosses want to screw him over.
1/20/2008 11:46:00 PM
finally a boss with balls that understands how to stand up for his officers! And they want to screw him over, wonder why 004 is a cesspool of crime, pro-active my ass! see ya!
Wish I Was Nicer said...
Daley is still sucking the pension dry. Making crazy new promotions that never even existed before. Those are facts and these are your facts girls and boys. Stop writing tickets. Period. Continue to arrest people if you can make overtime. Take that money and invest it yourselves. Real Estate. C'mon, you are the smartest group of men and women I have ever known. We are not all Marines. But we can pretend.
1/21/2008 02:25:00 AM
Go to drudgereport.com look at the markets in London down, but daley and criminalinc will continue to stael whatever they can to destroy the city of chicago!
to 10:53 couple of things: i am left handed; that quarter you took from the Jerry's kids jar is not a tip; ake your fto to drive and answer the question....why would this "innocent" hire the two guys who kept him in jail?
...do herman's old shirts fit or are they too snug?...
have you gotten over being slapped every day in high school;
your moniker shows deep emotionmal damage....
get a life, or a clue card.
To the lawyer who said the greater good was served: You are a fucking idiot. What kind of man won't give up a shitty paying job as a Public Defender in order to save a person from a life wasted in prison for a crime he did not commit? These lawyers were presumably smart young men that could have chosen another professional field. Of course this assumes that they would be disbarred and fired for telling the truth (a huge assumption given how evil Andrew Wilson was). If you told me I had to give up my job and find a new career in order to avoid being responsible for someone being imprisoned for life, I would not be happy about it but I would do it. There is nothing honorable about what these cowards did. When it was time to stand up and be counted, these two ran away and hid behind a "privilege."
Who will represent Logan on his wrongful imprisonment lawsuit? Will it be Loevy, Taylor or Frank Avila? They are all in it for the money only.
Flint Taylor testified at 26th Street recently that he does a cost analysis prior to taking a case and if he cannot make money he will not take the case. So much for the the defender of the underdog and the wrongfully convicted. It appears he is just another scumbag money-chasing shyster.
Makes me wonder just what evidence was used to convict the guy in the first place, and how it might have been acquired, if indeed someone else committed the crime.
I can understand the problem the lawyers had. They agreed to certain rules, approved by the court system, that restrict how they can operate.
If you can force lawyers to give up their client when he confesses to some unrelated crime, we are certainly crossing a line I doubt many of us want to cross. How far would we be from forcing lawyers to report when a client admitted to a crime he is charged with? How could anyone get a fair trial if their lawyer is reporting to the court on what they are telling their lawyers?
How many of you would accept the idea that a conversation with your lawyer where you admitted to a crime you are not charged with forced your lawyer to rat you out?
The lawyers did all they could ethically do. I am sort of amazed that went as far as they did.
"They did the right thing. Too bad Logan can't sue the former States Attorney for malicious prosecution."
It'd only be malicious prosecution if the SAO knew AT.THE.TIME. Logan was innocent and proceeded anyway. Twenty-twenty hindsight does not a malicious prosecution make.
Lawyers are no different than cops in the majority of the public's eye: all assholes until you actually need one.
To 1/20/2008 1:56:00 Thank you for your information,as "Someone who was there". This kind of info is, I'm sure, why this Blog was started in the first place. Thanks again.
I think it would be proper and fitting if the wrongfully imprisoned man file suit against the two lawyers who kept their mouths shut during his 26 years in the slam.
And it would be true poetic justice if he were to recover significant damages.
Those scumbag lawyers kept their mouths shut for what? So their shitbag murderous client on death row much of the time until communted to life without possibility of parole wouldn't get more time?
Huh?
They were public defenders for the criminal charges, now that they are retired they can sue for the wrongful imprisonment and collect millions for their client and a 33.3% for themselves, you asshat!
So smarty hair gel pants, know what your talking about before you open your free restaurant mouth and leave without a tip for the waitress!
1/20/2008 06:48:00 PM
Um....they were Wilson's lawyers. Anything else?
If my career were more important than an innocent person rotting in prison, I would QUIT..... typical response from a lawyer
<< Home