Only 45?
- Chicago police said they seized 45 weapons off the city's streets on New Year's eve. The weapons included a semiautomatic pistol, a .22 caliber rifle and a 12 gauge semiautomatic shotgun. Interim Superintendent Dana Starks [said] every gun removed from the streets is potentially a saved life. He said police prepared for the holiday by beefing up patrols.
Beefing up patrols? We still counted about 6 rapid cars missing in action where we were. And the late shifts still operated down beat cars all night.
And only forty-five guns? Didn't we used to do triple or more that number? We certainly heard more than a dozen weapons going off in our neck of the woods.
And only forty-five guns? Didn't we used to do triple or more that number? We certainly heard more than a dozen weapons going off in our neck of the woods.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
58 Comments:
In past years Forensic Services would record over 10,000 firearms recovered a year. Recently the numbers are down around six thousand. Including the free gift card programs. I wonder why. Could it be that there are less guns in the city now. Or option B people get burned out quicker and dont care. Option B
45? Thats a joke! I don't want this to become a SOS bashing post but last year we recovered 22 guns by ourselves, which was a down year for us. The two previous years we recovered approx. 30 and 45. I know narcotics and gang intel along with some tac teams were putting up close to the same numbers. Did people just lay down? Please tell me this number is waaaayyyyyy off! What's this job becoming?!
SCC, where I work (southside), I don't think a single UUW arrest was made on 1st watch last night. I can recall years ago coming in with a wagon full of lowlifes, and a trunk full of weapons with my team. Didn't hear a whole lot of shooting, and what I did hear was mainly in our sections of large numbers of public housing residents. Even that ended before 1AM. I guess folks see that we are serious, and it ain't no fun to be on the bus to County on New Year's day, caught up in a felony!
Oh contrare- there were PO's from Bureau of Patrol out there. Granted the PO's that I did see had more time in an office than they did on the street.
It sounded like Iraq where I live on New Years Eve. Lots of gunshots around midnight, and large explosives too, not just dinky firecrackers.
Yeah only 45! No Contract, No Work.
We used to have triple the amount of recoveries because we used to have S.O.S. Say what you want, but it's the truth.
The "college boys" cometh, but they don't taketh away!
This was the quietest new years in my 15 years.
45 guns? None in a Southside District? Great work ethic! Keep up affirmative action!
New Years was not bad on the west side almost like a typical Saturday night.
No shootings and thank God no cops hurt.
"We used to have triple the amount of recoveries because we used to have S.O.S. Say what you want, but it's the truth.
1/02/2008 12:45:00 AM"
Yeah & some of those weapons registered owner was the City of Chicago.
Don't believe me, ask one of your former SOS brethren who's a Sgt. in 009, & his Daddy just happens to be a Commander.
THAT IS THE TRUTH, ASSCLOWN!!
What does everyone expect? Kicking doors in and rousting the good citizens like in past time? Sure, and be charged with Home Invasion if something is claimed to be missing?
Hadn't seen the police in my neighborhood(Beverly) in over a month...but sure enough..at 0030hrs on New Years Eve Night...there is one crusin my block...typical...I guess the east side of district was too scary for you guys huh?
Why stick your neck out nowadays?
hey you are supposed to get those guns LEGIT!, Mr.
The overwhelming feeling was
"Who cares?" Let them shoot. Why get hurt by taking careless action to get a gun on New Years. The cost outweighs the benefit. No felony approval and God forbid you shoot the guy, you are toast for shooting a poor New Years Eve reveler. I'll be the first to admit I used to love working New Years but now that I am responsible for others, I keep them at bay till a reasonable time and thenm let them loose. Now commence bashing me.
HEY KID GO OUT THERE AND GET EM!!! DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT CR NUMBER OR THAT BEEF, THE CITY WILL BACK AND SO WILL YOUR BOSSES!!!
Why anyone kick in a door to get a gun in today's enviornment is beyond me. You idiots out there better realize that the two Cook Co. ASA's running for States Attorney would love nothing better than to criminally charge a CPD officer for misconduct right before the election.
Better watch yourself.
We woudl get 50+ in 025 alone. and then ther is 011 and 025. FUCK THIS SHIT. why bother?
to you guys hiding in alleys at the stroke of midnite waiting for uncle sancho big balls to pop out of the rear door and try out his new pistola bravo. one less gun in a drunk's hand. the real travesty is watching all the cases get ms/sol or nolle prosse by our counselors and judges. the better plan would be a six pack of your favorite flavor and a nice viaduct with about 8 feet of concrete over your head. peace out brothers and sisters.
Them mutha f'ers were shooting like crazy in 007 and 008!!
Didnt hear too many people catching anybody though.
I too agree about the SOS comment. When I was there at least we tried to catch people.
You're right SCC. Only 45 guns is a joke! Where were all our "specialized units" at?
TRU had 27 guns recovered. they did their part
" those so called bad boys of sos " names not necessary would have gotten 45 guns themselves. thanks ops iad corp counsel bullsh-t rev's jackson pfledger and da rest of you bitch-s have a happy fuc-in new year. peace baby
Maybe it's because people woke up and decided not to sit in gangways and alleys waiting for the shooting to start. If you can't get a gun the rest of the year don't try to make up for it on New Years. I think lack of interest these days is also a contributing factor. It isn't because SOS was disbanded, they all went to district and could have continued there heroics, they didn't, they got smart and appearently so did everyone else.
45? Thats a joke! I don't want this to become a SOS bashing post but last year we recovered 22 guns by ourselves, which was a down year for us. The two previous years we recovered approx. 30 and 45. I know narcotics and gang intel along with some tac teams were putting up close to the same numbers. Did people just lay down? Please tell me this number is waaaayyyyyy off! What's this job becoming?!
Actually the year you stated 45, it was more like approx 65-70. Jake wouldn't let his watch come in until they recovered more guns than our watch. It was too funny! Those were the days.
45 guns recovered.....that means there are 45 idiot dumb f'in coppers still out there...when will everyone finally learn???
never worked in sos.. but i must say they were the police.. not the sos of the past year and a half before they got disbanded but the 90s to about 2004 were the real deal. its a travesty that they were disbanded for a few idiots. if those teams were still around with the handcuffs off the numbers would have been much higher and would have put tru to shame. i remember seeing the stats in 99 or 00 and i remember that they were higher than the entire tru unit for 3years combined. well, it was good while it lasted... but to all the sos guys.. you werent the real police.. us housing guys were !!! ;) stay safe in 08 brothers and sisters
I work in TRU and I personally accounted for 4 guns. New Years I the greatest holiday ever for the real police!
tuck and roll unit must have been on a 3 hour lunch so they missed the gunshots.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We used to have triple the amount of recoveries because we used to have S.O.S. Say what you want, but it's the truth.
1/02/2008 12:45:00 AM
Tell me more hero. Tell me how your home invasion robberies ruined the job for everyone else. Fuck SOS.
I used to enjoy the gun pinches too. When they used to take 45 minutes to complete.
But then came the computerized inventories, case reports, arrest reports, multiple notifications, and packets of everything in triplicate (1) copy to each and every "paper pushing bean counter" so they can justify their (safe inside spot)existence!
Fuck them!
I'll get a UUW pinch again when I am the intended victim!Then I'll do all of the above, plus a TRR and meet with IPRA and then take some IOD time for R&R, you know claim PTSD or something!
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Also, any copper on here worth his/her salt on this job has surely had UUW's.
But to all the strokes who still have to come on here and brag about how many Guns they have recovered, or how they are the real police, get over yourselves!
You are the goofs all of us talk about behind your backs, because we get sick of hearing your shit!
Most of the cops on this job do the same shit day in a day out without bragging about it.
You guys know who you are. That IOD (rotator cuff tear) isn't from wrestling an offender or bench pressing 380 in the gym. IT'S FROM PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK ALL THE TIME!
Them mutha f'ers were shooting like crazy in 007 and 008!!
Didnt hear too many people catching anybody though.
I too agree about the SOS comment. When I was there at least we tried to catch people.
You're right SCC. Only 45 guns is a joke! Where were all our "specialized units" at?
1/02/2008 01:51:00 PM
008 (1st watch)was rocking and rolling all night.And for the peorson who said there wasnt any police shootings you are wrong...there was one in 008 chots fired at the police and by the police. There were several guns recovered by the 1st watch. We did have a lot of help out there (for the first time in a loooong time) so we got thru it ok, we were still in a back log at check off though.I have to say, why go around chasing these assholes w/guns and end your life. In the end no one really cares that you recovered a gun or two, except for maybe your buddies at the bar when you speak of it. The people, mayor, supt., don't deserve for me to risk my life for them.
Hey the TRU guys are sticking their chest out and showing all of us how big their cocks are. Tell me of all the guns you "TRU" guys recovered, how many were by arrest?
Spare us all from the bullshit, one guy can account for four guns.
Then you should have the years first top gun award.
Tell me more hero. Tell me how your home invasion robberies ruined the job for everyone else. Fuck SOS.
1/02/2008 05:30:00 PM
I didn't post this but I am willing to bet my house on the fact that the Abbate incident ruined the job much more than the SOS scandal. There's always been and always will be some type of scandal in CPD. Tac guys in 2, 7, 10, 15, 25, Gangs North etc. have all been indicted of doing some corrupt shit in the past. None of those incidents did shit to the department except put them in the news for a bit. The Abbate incident ran Cline out of town, brought down the Area 4 gun team, brought the SOS scandal into the news, almost had the FEDS take us over and basically showed the world how the city would cover up for certain people(Area 4 gun team). Abbate did much more damage to the department than SOS. Before I get a bunch of "fuck SOS" comments just think about it. Except for those who were working in SOS, what orders or rules changed in the department because of the SOS scandal?
1/02/2008 09:46:00 AM
GO F@#$K YOURSELF!! Because you don't see the police driving down your street, that means they must not be?? I assume you have no job, no family, no life and sit in your front window 24 hours a day, waiting for a police car to pass. If you even are the police, transfer out here to 022 and show us how it's done, HERO! YOU ARE A TOOL!
They wouldn't let us really do anything! Not saying that I really wanted to go out and get those guns but I could of had a better time outside of work.
How about the Mobile Command Center with a SWAT unit down at the Altgeld Gardens 2230-0100hrs. What a joke! Not a damn thing was going on down there. I didn't see a single arrest for UUW in the 005th dist. either!
Hey 1/02/2008 09:46:00A.M.
Hey Beverly Resident.
You complain when you don't see the police from 022, and then you complain when you see them. Make up your mind. Don't know how to make you happy. We are just as undermanned as any other district in the city, maybe even more so. Or maybe if they ever open 022 up for bid you can come out here and show us how it is done.
Why bother risking getting hurt? The 1st and the 16th with all the liberals and daleys bullshit friends why even risk taking a gun? Proud member of FOP K-9 woof woof!
I'm glad nobody did shit. Show them what they have to look forward to. I don't work in 022 but like I said before, I know those females (the ones folks were bitching about a few weeks back) cruise 22 all night long. As long as our neighborhoods are looked after, who gives a shit. Happy New Years to all CPD.
Gun running on New Years Eve. Fucking dangerous. Shame on you for calling that shit out on the radio while chasing these fools at midnight on NYE. Can't make a gun pinch any other day of the year. Ignorant fucks.
cold, windy, and snowy. no one mentioned anything about the weather. last year i remember it being mild for NYE and it was a war zone out there on the west side. I had NYE off this year and spent it in 008 (Garfield Ridge). Stepped outside to hear what it sounded like and it sounded dead compared to last year (despite what the PO's are saying on here).
yeah, sos got some shit, i was in 005 about 3 years ago, and sos got at least 40 guns on 005 that night..dont be hating because you're stuck on a beat car in 011.....we all know who you are that bitch tru out...maybe you shouldn't tell you're hairdresser girlfiend shit because she tells her clients how you live for "the blog"...get a life loser!!!!! you, yourself were never in sos, correct??? and not in tru either...
OH YEAH !!!!! BITCHES,
i sat in my squad car drinking my
large starbucks coffee, and watched movies under a nice quiet viaduct. Just like a lot of other coppers did , know why?
1. no contract
2. 9 cr's in 5 years dumped/inelgible for anything
3. pussified bosses that hang you out to dry
4.do you think i give a fucking shit if tyroneous shots his guns off in the ghetto? FUCK NO!
5.IT'S COLD
6.I gave up police work for new years.
7. all gun cases from new years to be sol'ed by every asshole asa in the city.
8.the new city /media witch hunt against chicago police.
sure i'll do police work again someday, but it won't be until
daley dies and we got some upstanding bosses who back us up until then retired in the beat car.
to anyone who doesn't like it i'll put my arrest numbers up against most of you blog writting butholes.
i'm not supercop, but i worked my ass off for the last 10 years and my reward has been being dumped twice, even though i had good numbers. no more not from me.
collect a check!
Anonymous said...
I didn't post this but I am willing to bet my house on the fact that the Abbate incident ruined the job much more than the SOS scandal. There's always been and always will be some type of scandal in CPD. Tac guys in 2, 7, 10, 15, 25, Gangs North etc. have all been indicted of doing some corrupt shit in the past. None of those incidents did shit to the department except put them in the news for a bit. The Abbate incident ran Cline out of town, brought down the Area 4 gun team, brought the SOS scandal into the news, almost had the FEDS take us over and basically showed the world how the city would cover up for certain people(Area 4 gun team). Abbate did much more damage to the department than SOS. Before I get a bunch of "fuck SOS" comments just think about it. Except for those who were working in SOS, what orders or rules changed in the department because of the SOS scandal?
1/02/2008 06:53:00 PM"
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The order on consent to searches and search warrants. The policy of deconflicting search warrants prior to execution.
That's a pretty big one, don't ya think. GPS deployment has also been hastened. I think you put your foot in your mouth!
Every time I read one of these posts that have someone claiming to be the real police, I cringe and wonder why oh why....Listen up boys and girls, the real police no longer exist. I came on in '90 and believe me, back then they were fast becoming extinct. I dont mean that I am the real police. I am not. I did my job the best I could, backed up my fellow officers and didnt screw over the others on my watch and my partner and I always went home to our families. I used to think it meant something, being called the "real police". I would rather be known as the go home after eight, not being sued by some idiot, police. This mentality of I do this better than you do, or I get more guns than you do, is exactly the kind of thinking that will get you hurt or going to the corporation council for your deposition on a lawsuit. The "real police" is an idea put in your mind probably in the academy or from someone who talks alot of "copper" jargon. If you do this job long enough on the streets and are smart and actually listen without spouting off, you might learn something and have the respect of your fellow officers and maybe a supervisor or two, if that is important to you. Then, in time, you will be considered a "good copper" by those that matter most or should matter. Be smart and be safe. The city doesnt give a shit if you are the "real police", you will end up on page one and fired just the same if you screw up, real police or not. Think about it, it happens every day. Look around you, some of those coffee stained, revolver carrying dinosaurs you think are dog asses might have a pearl of wisdom or two left under their flea collars.
Signed,
Fido.
along with being "the real police" there are plenty of people that "Shouldn't be the police.
yeah, sos got some shit, i was in 005 about 3 years ago, and sos got at least 40 guns on 005 that night..dont be hating because you're stuck on a beat car in 011.....we all know who you are that bitch tru out...maybe you shouldn't tell you're hairdresser girlfiend shit because she tells her clients how you live for "the blog"...get a life loser!!!!! you, yourself were never in sos, correct??? and not in tru either...
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i havent been in tru either you say??.. i have been in tru. a handful of us went there for 2 years after housing was disbanded. then made sgt and left. trust me son.. i know the bs that goes on in tru. i had a good time but the quality of workers that were coming in there were nothing impressive. many 2 or 3 year wonders who were aggressive but didnt know a clue about policework. knew many people in sos and housing and would most likely embaress most of the people in tru. go get your 2 baggers kid and give high fives to the rest of the team. my socks got more time on this job then you kid... and stuck on a beat car in 011? try a sgt in a unit... a unit that im sure you would never have a chance of getting into rook... now get my coffee!!
no contract = no revenue , wake up officers stop doing policework you are only creating more revenue. swallow your pride for a year or so, let the animals run loose. the city is not acting in good faith with the contract negotiations. put the blinders on it only hurts for a little while
The order on consent to searches and search warrants. The policy of deconflicting search warrants prior to execution.
That's a pretty big one, don't ya think. GPS deployment has also been hastened. I think you put your foot in your mouth!
1/03/2008 05:54:00 AM
I knew someone was going come back with this. Actually the new consent to search and search warrant order had to do with the area 4 gun team "allegedly" using made up john doe's to get the warrant signed by the judge. The SOS guys weren't doing search warrants, they were "allegedly" kicking in doors without warrants. GPS affected only the guys in SOS. It hasn't and most likely will never go citywide. Too much money. After SOS was disbanded TRU picked up a few and the rest are still in SFS. Again I asked...What orders or rules changed because of the SOS scandal???
"maybe you shouldn't tell you're hairdresser girlfiend shit because she tells her clients how you live for "the blog"..."
Hey Now, Don't hate on the Hairdresser G-Friend. I never have to go too long for a trim to & nevr run out of hairgel.
She get's the Fauxhawk looking real fresh for our night out @ Boomtown!!
"Anonymous said...
I knew someone was going come back with this. Actually the new consent to search and search warrant order had to do with the area 4 gun team "allegedly" using made up john doe's to get the warrant signed by the judge. The SOS guys weren't doing search warrants, they were "allegedly" kicking in doors without warrants. GPS affected only the guys in SOS. It hasn't and most likely will never go citywide. Too much money. After SOS was disbanded TRU picked up a few and the rest are still in SFS. Again I asked...What orders or rules changed because of the SOS scandal???
1/03/2008 06:20:00 PM
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Actually the S.O.S. guys were also "allegedly" using consent to searches. So I stand by my original statement. Sometimes new orders come about as the result of multiple incidents.
Again, the order had something to do with S.O.S.
I was shocked at how quiet it was on new years...first time in years that we werent on top of some idiot firing his weapon
is it us or what???
Anonymous said...
no contract = no revenue , wake up officers stop doing policework you are only creating more revenue. swallow your pride for a year or so, let the animals run loose. the city is not acting in good faith with the contract negotiations. put the blinders on it only hurts for a little while
1/03/2008 05:11:00 PM
Your right I stopped working long ago the 1st and 16th! I back other coppers and their families up anything else is optional! My blinders work really well no "on view" anything!
Anonymous said...
45? Thats a joke! I don't want this to become a SOS bashing post but last year we recovered 22 guns by ourselves, which was a down year for us. The two previous years we recovered approx. 30 and 45. I know narcotics and gang intel along with some tac teams were putting up close to the same numbers. Did people just lay down? Please tell me this number is waaaayyyyyy off! What's this job becoming?!
Actually the year you stated 45, it was more like approx 65-70. Jake wouldn't let his watch come in until they recovered more guns than our watch. It was too funny! Those were the days.
1/02/2008 03:19:00 PM
S O WHO?
The new consent to search and warrant order had nothing to do with any of the gun teams. The order was drawn up after the 007 problems. Not SOS, NOT GUN TEAMS!
Stop writing B.S. that is not true people!
and where did getting all those guns get you?
nice job!
wake up goof
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