Shades of Things to Come?
After all, our leadership has stolen every other bright idea out of New York and destroyed it:
The increasingly diverse NYPD wants to get a little more uniform: Cops have been told to say goodbye to their goatees, chin strap beards and designer hair affectations more suitable for, well, designers.
[...] The department also allows officers to grow beards if they suffer from Pseudofolliculitis barbae, a dermatological condition better known as PFB that is common among black men and afflicts those who shave with rashes and scarring, mostly on and under their chins, as well as on their cheeks and necks.
But according to a recent memo circulated throughout the department, officers with such clearance do not have carte blanche to let their hair down, so to speak.
We expect a whole bunch of memos on this and other things very very shortly. After all, there are a shitload of people downtown that suddenly have to justify their existence.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
177 Comments:
Wow, the Chicago Defender is a legit news source....NOT..their lead story at their website for International news is still from June 7, 2007 reagrding South Korea nukes...the story is over 6 months old and still their only International story.
I guess the only thing those haters can report on is police brutality.
Does this mean Icy-Al-G will cut those "Predator" length dredds or will the 18th District Sgts. put a pair on and order him to get a cut ?!
why stop there all this pretty boys with long hair, beards and walrus mustache supervisors. There is no enforcement to the standard uniform code because 9 out 10 the supervisor is not in compliance.
Signed
Do as I say not as I do
I have to agree with NYPD, I believe in smooth and shaved!
"[...] The department also allows officers to grow beards if they suffer from Pseudofolliculitis barbae, a dermatological condition better known as PFB that is common among black men and afflicts those who shave with rashes and scarring, mostly on and under their chins, as well as on their cheeks and necks."
In Chicago that is called razor burn, and one throws some aftershave on and gets the fcuk on with their day without crying to their dermatologist.
Why are we the SECOND city?
003rd District Tact LT monitors the radio from home and works part-time security at Borders on 95th Western. No wonder why he has no girlfriend. Go get'em tiger. Get a life - dork.
does nose hair count?
I am all in favor of tightening up on uniform appearence. Too many of us look like bums. Take some pride in the way you look. Cut your hair and shave when you need it. Keep your uniform clean and your shoes shined. You don't see suburban coppers or State Troopers that look like slobs, so why should we. Enforce the rules fairly and across the board and you shouldn't have any problems. Oh, by the way, I am an old timer (26years on) and work a beat car in a district.
in my humble opinion uniformed and most C/D officers should have their faces cleanly shaven.
Unless they have a legit skin condition or their undercover assignment dictates the wearing of facisl hair
This would include both genders
I always thought those designer skinny lined beards looked kind of fruity tootie on a guy any how. I would never date a man with one of those designers beards or a guy who mirco trims his eyebrows. I like my men like a man! Plain and simple!
No offense but I have seen my share of females on this job that could use a razor of their face! Maybe I am just jealous they can have a fuller mustache than me.
Somebody should donate some razors to the women of Area 2 Detective Division. They have more facial hair than the Dead Head Groupies!
PFB, I think I caught that once after a one night stand. It wasn't pretty.
SCC, I know it was decided not to say much about the police shooting in 011 last week to see how the new policy of not saying anything to the media to keep them from blowing things out of proprtion worked pretty well, but how about a follow up based on the fact the states attorney refused to charge the offender. It was a blink and you'll miss it article in the tribune a few days ago.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/
local/chi-policeshoot_bd_13jan
13,0,6764278.story
I've had trouble posting links in the past, so if it doesn't work go to tribune.com and do a search using chicago police states attorney and scroll down.
we've already had this rule for years so whats the big deal?
No more prisoner transport vans….district lock-ups will be equipped with a fleet of limousines that will transport our med students to court in the luxury and comfort they so deserve.
No more blue roof lights and/or sirens….this is just to disturbing to our citizens, instead, all officers will, when responding to an emergency call, exit their vehicle at intersections and ask the other drivers very politely to please get out of their way. If they refuse….officers will immediately kneel and plead for compliance.
Forget about buying new battries for our radios. All officers will be taught the skill of morse code. OEMC will install windows in its super duper modern facility and dispatchers will simply view the signals that will be emitted from each officer's blinking flashlight. Each officer will have 10 support vans that will follow them throughout their tour with ample supplies of flashlight battries.
Cell phones will not be allowed or carried…from now on officers will use telepathy to notify AREA detectives of the alleged and untrue crimes of our stellar med students and alter boys.
And criticism of that specialized unit that has drained all and everything out of each and every district,that I won't mention but rhymes with zoo will not be tolerated. The 3 officers that are currently left in the patrol division will immediately respond to every request,wish and/or whim of this specialized unit whose name I won't mention,but rhymes with ewwww.
Lastly,no more overtime...mom and dad said we have to complete our tour of duty before the street lights go on.
What is the definition of " uniform"?
I can't wear goatee but chump next to me in rollcall can wear shells in his/her hair?????
I got the bumps
I agree SCC more and more bullshirt memo's will be forthcoming! But then again if Jody "Dumps" most of the goofs including exempts out of 35th street maybe they will actually work 8 for 8! Maybe look at the d units also, are they working or punching in and doing the same shit? If it is supervision everywhere look at these prima donnas also! "Hey i gots colege and i am a detective so shut up"! Ok Jethro!
Just wondering? Did the Captain on days in 019 get a CR # for leaving her gun in the glove box of a squad car?
Even though this is not the pension post it is the latest so I hope this will stay fresh it people's head
Quote from the articel on the CTA spending:
"We're making sure folks know this is a tax paying for pensions. ... It won't put another train on the tracks or another bus on the street," said Brian Bernardoni, director of government affairs for the Realtors group.
Get ready boys and girls, people are already starting in the papers about taxess paying for pension in reagrds to the CTA. Just wait until something like this comes along for the police and fire.
Also, if anyone has any info on the concession that the CTA union agreed too, please post. From what I heard, and do not know if it true, is that the Union agreed to a two tear system.
Please post info and stay informed
To Asshat:
We've stated before we won't be publishing blanket criticisms of ourselves, the blog or the readers of the blog.
Your nonsense fit all three categories and served no purpose. Go start your own site and try to build a readership. If people like it, they'll abandon us.
Besides, your feeble attempt doesn't even rhyme, let alone make sense.
Also, if anyone has any info on the concession that the CTA union agreed too, please post. From what I heard, and do not know if it true, is that the Union agreed to a two tear system.
I thought their union agreed that the first two years of wage increases would go into the pension fund.
Brothers in Blue; On Sunday, Jan. 27th at 1100 hrs. the KC Councils of CFD St. Florian #12911 and CPD St. Michael Council will host a BB Free Throw contest at the CPD Gym, 1300 W. Jackson Blvd for 10-14 yr. old Boys and Girls. ALL are welcome to participate and winners go on to the next level..
More info at 773-206-9555.
Hey, how about us guys that have the "Toilet Seat Cut?" You know, the look that is horse shoe shaped, bald in the middle? Can we at least grow the sides long?
Working 21+ yrs, all in a district on the street, I agree. The uniform & appearance standards have been virtually ignored the last several years. About 15 yrs ago, I had a great W/C who would go to bat for anyone and he had 2 requirements. Be on time for roll-call, and look sharp. After all, his feeling was with the uniform allowance we get, we should buy a couple new pair of pants if we need them. All too often these days you see the beards, corn rows, earrings and the long painted fingernails. Not saying the department should go ape shit, but if everyone looked at themselves in the mirror, we could fix it ourselves. If not, let the "uniform police" fix it.
Hey, isn't this called a "BUMP CARD" in our dept.? And how long has that been in effect here? What is wrong is the designer beards and goatees and the braids and earrings. Listen, if you lil boys on patrol want to look that way, go to 023, and request to work tact, you can get all the trannies and flippers for prostitution.
Cline, or one of his lackeys started all this shit with the fourteen different uniform combos.
You have guys in baseball hats, knit hats, cargo pants, turtle necks. They all look like a bunch of idiots.
I'm all for functionality and on cold days a knit hat is far better than the old hats but lets get some standard here.
..and when did tact guys start wearing shorts. That's fucking ridiculous. Shame on the supervisor that didn't send that douche bag home.
Pardon me but its: I gots da bumps.
Start at the top. Take a good look at the departments command staff. Fat out of shape chain smoking alocholic political hacks. What would happen to them if they had to use the stairs? Think of the puplic's perception of this department when our fine bosses are pictured on the news. The troops are a reflection of their leadership!
MMMMMMMMMMM i love it smooth
Sgt. ebay has a sale on Tijuana sling shots. This is possibly the last lot of size 5xxx to ever be offered.
City Hall said:
The Weis-man (WIZEMAN)would like to bring in another First Deputy (RE-TIRED FBI) for Administration.
Have a First Deputy for Operations and here comes the FBI IN:
RE-TIRED FBI EXEMPT IN PERSONNEL
RE-TIRED FBI EXEMPT IN THE TRAINING ACADM
RE-TIRED FBI EXEMPT IN I.A.D.
RE-TIRED FBI EXEMPT AS DEP.SUPT OF INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES.
Look at this mess!
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2174016540&size=l
Not by the hair of my chinny-chin,chin!!!!
It's an embarrassment to see officers with long dreadlocks/braids and a bigger embarrassment for not enforcing the rule on the length and style of a P.O.'s hair.
I agree in looking good when you police, but keep in mind we are the real police and are constantly working, yes even sometimes in 016. I disagree with belittling officers at role call over small shit, because guess what, you won't get shit from those officers for a while. I do very much agree that we need more physical agility qualifications. If you are a fat ass or out of shape, not because of some medical condition, but because you are just lazy, then something needs to be done. If you don't do it for yourself, do it for your family, who would like you to be around more than 2 years after you retire. As a proud department member, it is more embarrassing to see some fat ass getting out of the car, or trying to take control of a situation, than it is to see a physically fit officer with a open cuff case. Be safe out there and watch each others backs...
MAN GETS 5 YEARS IN JAIL FOR..... KILLING TREES!!!!
LAS VEGAS - Residents of an upscale retirement community near here knew Douglas Hoffman was upset that trees were blocking his backyard view of the Strip.
But at a hearing Monday, where Hoffman was sentenced to up to five years in prison for killing more than 500 trees, a prosecutor said the retired construction worker had threatened to unleash "chemical, biological, nuclear mass destruction" because of it.
Dressed in jail garb and handcuffed to his wheelchair, Hoffman, 61, slumped and lowered his eyes when Judge Donald M. Mosley announced his sentence.
WOW!
Too bad Command Personnel let the dept. slide into some misfits.they can't blame the troops.
The reason for the roll calls, is to check the troops out so they comply withDept. G/O. Its evident that its been so lax for so long that its become the standard to do what you want to do.
Its going to be damn possible now that you may have an Inspector at the roll Calls and its possible that the WC had better shape the troops up or he will be gone along with the Comdr.
This is what happens to an organization when you have incompetence at the top,its sort of like the plumbing business, all you have to know is SHIT RUNS DOWN HILL AND PAYDAY IS ON FRIDAY.
Too bad, the Dept. was so good at one time.
AS A IRISH MALE ON THIS GREAT DEPT. I ALWAYS WONDER WHY I HAVE TO HAVE THE CLEAN IRA LOOK AND HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS DARK SKIN PEOPLE ON THE DEPT (MALES) WITH LONG PASSED THEIR SHOULDERS LENGTH HAIR AND THEY ARE IN UNIFORM. WHY WHY ME. SIGNED, NANCY KERRIGANS BROTHER
The Failed Model Approach from the suburbs is coming to CPD.
As long as it is FAIRLY ENFORCED, whatever is fine, I guess. sigh. I would prefer to be able to wear my goatee again, just like anyone else working in this country, but I realize that there would be the few among us that would soon look like santa claus in blue, so I guess we, again, are our own worst enemy...
I agree SCC more and more bullshirt memo's will be forthcoming! But then again if Jody "Dumps" most of the goofs including exempts out of 35th street maybe they will actually work 8 for 8! Maybe look at the d units also, are they working or punching in and doing the same shit? If it is supervision everywhere look at these prima donnas also! "Hey i gots colege and i am a detective so shut up"! Ok Jethro!
1/15/2008 06:56:00 AM
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The Detective division is going through the same bullshit as the Patrol division.
Not enough Detectives...
but if realignment of Detectives that are there was done, along with the proper amount of staffing in the first place, maybe the ones who act like what is quoted above wouldn't have the "free" time to think that shit up.
P.S. Please remember, above all else, it's the Shitty that's at fault for the way things are...not your fellow officer, no matter how much better you think he/she has it than you.
Seriously, the way this dept. has turned for the worse, who really cares about beards, long hair, etc. Let's focus on really whats important: no contract, shit bosses, inexperience, clout, promotional tests, etc.
I really hope uniform and appearence will be enforced around here. Everybody with their bull-shit bump cards needs to be looked into a little more. Guys who never had a problem shaving before all of the sudden have a skin problem and need a bump card so they can be cool and grow a beard. The cornrows and braids are a friggin disgrace, yet supervisors are scared to say anything. General Orders and numerous country-wide court rulings have upheld a department enforcing grooming / haircut standards. You never see suburban or state cops look as shitty as we do.
At the Philadelphia Police Dept., a female Muslim P/O sued the City and has appealled a ruling that has prevented her from wearing that stupid Muslim head scarf.
All I can say is that I hope she loses, but she'll have some ammunition, as some Black males are allowed to have beards because of PFB. From what I understand though, a doctor's note has to be provided (which I'm sure are easy enough to obtain).
I can't begin to tell you how many times I've read on Domelights, Philly's semi-version of SCC, about officers out of uniform: dreads, Mickey Mouse socks (or was it a raincoat or umbrella?), a male in the elite Highway Patrol Unit with earrings in both ears, and the list goes on.
I think it's disgraceful that some P/O's think they can wear whatever they want and refuse to follow the UNIFORM directives that were handed down by the PPD. It makes them look unprofessional, and it's an embarrassment to the entire PPD, especially to the officers that do take pride in the uniform and how they look.
Not that it's worth anything, but there's my $.02.
MD in 004 got wind of this and has immediately been looking for a loophole, so he can still wear his beard.
He mad as hell about having to possibly shave his beard off. "Garbage bro, this fucking Soup-nazi is Garbage bro" is what he kept saying over and over in disbelief.
-004 po
"Ald. Ricardo Munoz (22nd) predicted that the transfer tax would pass with more votes to spare than Daley's property tax increase. That 29-to-21 vote was reminiscent of Council Wars, the 1980s power struggle that also split aldermen 29 to 21.
"You don't actually feel this tax until you buy or sell something. ... If it's going to help the CTA and help seniors get free rides, it should be an easy" vote, Munoz said."
Sorry but I'm fucking pissed. This ignorant Latin King has the stones to say it's ok to increase a tax to 40%, because it involves a voluntary transaction. Mind you, with a housing market that's in chaos right now, why not add a little more misery to folks who want to live the American dream. Why is Dicky Munoz so quick to throw his support behind the tax? How big is that housing market in his ward? Lets tax foreclosures! Penalize the person that decided to go beyond their means and went with the ARM thinking they could flip it in five years. You think this would affect his ward more then the 41st, 43rd, 11th or 19th? He would scream discrimination. Speaking of Mongolian Clusterfucks, what exactly is Loobercan doing with his budget?????????
Stay safe one and all.
003rd District Tact LT monitors the radio from home and works part-time security at Borders on 95th Western. No wonder why he has no girlfriend. Go get'em tiger. Get a life - dork.
1/15/2008 12:34:00 AM
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Is that McMurray you're talking about? Boy that guy has some anger issues. 003 sure knows how to find them!
As police we need to have standards and officers should look neat, clean and not smell like a$$. But, I do not see what is wrong with a male officer being allowed to have facial hair as long as it is kept neat and trimmed.
Just wondering? Did the Captain on days in 019 get a CR # for leaving her gun in the glove box of a squad car?
no she had it in the gym downstairs all along. lmao
off the topic.... tru in 015 last night, again hoggin up the station with 12 officers for 3 heads!! way to go guys!!! please just get out of the dam way. this is why district can't stand you guys. i mean if you and a partner have a arrest FINE but the whole team don't need to be in the station on the same warrant pinch!! stay safe
Holy Shit!!
Watch this Boston copper fight this guy and NO ONE comes to help him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-dOZgUb3eI&eurl=http://secondcitysarge.blogspot.com/
The order came down from a balding hater of hair blessed coppers. Don't hate the player, player. Hate the hair!
Defeat the Suffredin/Beavers ordinance that bans the sale of firearms, accessories and ammunition in Cook County. Call (312)603-6400
If you ask me, I say that the idea of "bump cards" is ridiculous! If we are going to project the right image, then we should not allow bump cards in Patrol Division.
If you MUST have your precious little bump card, then go to a specialized unit like Narcotics or OCD. Can't get in? I guess you're fucked!
Quit whining about not being able to have non-regulation facial hair and man up already!
We ALL know these bump card pussies are in our districts. Right now, each of you are thinking of a copper or two in your very own district who fits this bump card mold. REMEMBER, many of these bump card idiots are former S.O.S and we ALL know how they fucked up CPD for us!
Screw it! Uniformity for all! Let's get rid of the bump card in it's entirety.
Give a link showing NYPD's memo's on this SCC. I think its a little coincidental that this is a topic just as CPD is doing the same. I smell bullshit and would love for you to prove me wrong with a link.
Hey SCC since we like to copy everything from the NYPD how about we get Andy Sipowicz for first deputy??????
FROM THE FILES OF "AN ARMED ROBBER WITH NO BALLS!":
KOKOMO, Ind. — A man accidentally shot himself in the groin as he was robbing a convenience store, police said.
A clerk told police a man carrying a semiautomatic handgun entered the Village Pantry Tuesday morning demanding cash and a pack of cigarettes. The clerk put the cash in a bag and as she turned to get the cigarettes, she heard the gun discharge.
Surveillance video shows the man shooting himself as he placed the gun in the waistband of his pants, police said. The clerk wasn't injured.
A short time later, police found 25-year-old Derrick Kosch at a home with a gunshot wound to his right testicle and lower left leg. He was expected to have surgery at a hospital.
Police plan to charge him with armed robbery.
I heard from a reliable source that since J-FED is such a fitness buff a memo will be drafted saying what and where we can eat for our 30 minutes. I've learned the first two establishments to be banned are Jimmy's Hot Dogs and Ricobenes. Inspectors will periodically report to your lunch location and ensure your are not consuming too many calories.
Oh and all the different uniforms that we are authorized to wear per general order will be changed. We are to appear uniform in our dress as well.
Heard that when assigned to a detail will only be able to wear 80/20 pants (no cargos); uniform jacket (no sweater or leather); long sleeves and tie (no turtle neck) and crown cap (no baseball or knit caps).
Mike Cronin had the longest nosehair in CPD History. Or maybe it was hair from Clines anus.
And you wonder why some women shouldn't be allowed to breed:
INDIANAPOLIS — Police searched Tuesday for two men believed to have run from a home where two women and their two children were fatally shot.
Officers arrived on the city's north side late Monday night to investigate a report of shots fired. Inside the home, they found 4-month-old Charlii Yarrell suffering from multiple gunshot wounds, along with the bodies of her mother, Andrea Yarrell, Gina Hunt, both 24, and Hunt's 23-month-old son Jordan Hunt.
Charlii Yarrell later died at a hospital.
The children were shot in their mothers' arms and all were wounded multiple times, said Indianapolis police Assistant Chief Eva Talley-Sanders.
"I can't imagine what kind of evil it takes to shoot two women and the innocent children in their arms," said police Chief Michael Spears at a Tuesday news conference.
Witnesses told police they saw two men running from the home.
Two handguns were found within a block of the house, where the four who were slain lived, said police spokesman Sgt. Matthew Mount. A set of scales, several weapons, a safe and one pound of a what is believed to be marijuana were found in the house, Talley-Sanders said.
OHHHHH a dope house! Great place to keep little kids, you asshats!
i like my goatee and long hair, it makes me look like a model instead of a cop. the females love it. i do shave my pubes though, the girls also love that.
The FBI announced Tuesday it will assist Maywood police with the investigation of the 2006 slaying of Officer Thomas Wood, the first officer killed in that suburb's history.
Wood, 37, was found shot multiple times in his marked police sport-utility vehicle at the end of his watch on the night of Oct. 23, 2006, at 6th Avenue and Erie Street. Wood was found slumped over his steering wheel, with his window rolled down, his truck in park and his police dog inside, unharmed.
He was pronounced dead a short time later at Loyola University Medical Center in Maywood.
Whats happening to deferred com, I lost 25 grand sense the 1st of the year. I was going to retire in April??????
Seriously, people need to stop crying and bitching over all of these minor changes (i.e. clean shave, a pressed uniform, clean shoes, roll call inspection, etc...). We are officers and need to act and dress like professionals. For too long, we have had officers who look like slobs. With Jody in charge, all of that will soon end. I envision a new department that means business. I am glad that we have a new boss who will clean things up.
OFF TOPIC:
Just thought everyone should be aware that Toddler Stroger doesn't care about the Suffredin/Beavers anti-gun ordinances that could cost Illinois and Cook County millions in tax revenues. I called his office to inquire where he stands on the ordinance and was rudely told by an employee of the office that "he has nuthin to do wit dat" and "it's not his problem"
I say flood all their offices with calls.
Stroger 312-603-6400
Suffredin 847-864-1209
Beavers 773-731-1575
It's hard to believe that Beavers was once a brother in blue.
I guess you lose all rational when you enter into politics and have to sell your soul to get ahead.
PFB? Throw some aftershave on your face and quit being such pussies! Bump cards are a joke and make everyone in CPD look like shit!
It always amazes me that the guys with the bump cards can shave enough to design little beards and goatees and shit. Do the bumps only affect certain parts of the face?
This department would have Abe Linclon shave as thier response to dealing with the civil war.
I don't care either way as long as everyone complies...
J-Fed is a expert scuba diver and also a weight lifter / gym man.
I can see him saying all of us males must have complete body waxing and the new uniform will be spandex shirts and pants.
And the wierd part about that is that I am looking forwared to it!
Why any guy has a 1/8th of an inch wide beard is beyond me. I always thought it looked compleely stupid. And you know any guy spending that much time with his facial hair is doing the metrosexual designer personal hair body grooming too. VERY very very strange! Mr. Happy wasn't suppose to wear just a Hitler mustache.
Brother, I can tell you countless stories about the 19th district day captain and her weapon. It was usually rolling around the floor of her unmarked when she was a youth Lt. Also could be found in an unlocked locker at the local gym while working out on duty. Oh yeah, sometimes it was found laying around the women's bathroom at the Area. She is top notch! and Hispanic to boot! Does she still label the things in her office with spanish words?
I laughed my ass off on that comment about female facial hair, it was very funny but sadly also true!
What JP needs to address within his first month is to take away the marked squad from 1108.
Please tell us why this crossing guard supervisor needs a marked squad. She drives it thru red lights, does all her personal errands in it and, takes the keys home with her. She is not a sworn officer and there is no logical reason for her to drive a marked unit. Take your personal car or jump on the bus.
We can free up a car for answering calls since we are 5 cars due to fleet managements incompetence.
TWO BILLION IN COST FOR OLYMPICS
Chicago Olympics officials today revealed that a 2016 Summer Games held here would require some $900 million in venue construction, most of it, they said, paid for with private funds and games revenues. That number does not include the $1.1 billion previously estimated as the cost to build an Olmypic Village for housing athletes near McCormick Place.
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But our pensions are in trouble, our medical/dental insurance suck and are going up!
Well worth the price! You go Mayor!
Do not stop at facial hair and shined shoes. How about nails, hair length, and body ear rings, nose rings, etc.
The uniform inspection needs to be legit.
no kidding here is the real list!! u can check the teletypes to verify, but this one is for real...
010 Hannigan, K
015 Casey, P
004 West, B
003 Davis, E.
021 Adducci, M.
006 Devries, D.
003 Mc Laurin, C
007 Chambers, K
008 Wojick, A
008 Carothers, A.
008 Lavoy, J.
011 Flores, L.
025 Garrido, J
011 Godsel, D
010 Konow, K.
014 Valdez, O
012 Biggane, M.
007 Fiddler, B.
001 Looney, W.
006 Loughran, S
bump, bump it up...
Give a link showing NYPD's memo's on this SCC. I think its a little coincidental that this is a topic just as CPD is doing the same. I smell bullshit and would love for you to prove me wrong with a link.
Um, the entire first line of the post is a link to the Chicago Tribune article on line. Does that prove you wrong? Try to keep up here
They should start with making officers stay in some physical shape, no offense but it's a shame how many of you guys are totally out of shape and really need to be in some gym rather on the force. In the service we have to stay in tip top shape or they get rid of us especially once our stomachs hang lower than our knees
I say enforce the haircut and facial hair standards. God Almighty, we are a rag tag looking bunch. I am no spit polished former military man, but enough all ready. Men with dread locks, ponytails, goatees, beards, and perfectly trimmed 5 o'clock shadows. It's a joke. And how about not letting females wear multiple earrings in each ear, or visible jewelry on their hands and necks.
Lt. Johnny Tres, back to 025!!! I love it! Damn, there's gonna be some haters pulling their hair out! Let's see how many of the anonymous pricks who have talked shit about you here suddenly start kissing your ass! ha ha LOVE IT! I predict within two years, that's right, COMMANDER GARRIDO!
Ain't life a bitch, Bryan? ha ha ha
OT, but I want to see if our hero bosses from the CCSPD are here taking notes from the big city PD to the east. Indulge me for a moment:
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PO James Knapp
Cook County Sheriff's Police Department
Illinois
End of Watch: Wednesday, January 4 2006
Biographical Info
Age: 50
Tour of Duty: 16 years
Badge Number: 408
Incident Details
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Date of Incident: Wednesday, January 4, 2006
Weapon Used: Not available
Suspect Info: Not available
Officer James Knapp was killed when he was involved in a motor vehicle accident at 0615 hours at the intersection of 100th Place and 76th Avenue in Bridgeview, Illinois.
Officer Knapp was en route to the sheriff's station in Bridgeview when his squad car rear-ended a semi-tractor trailer that was stopped awaiting to make a left-hand turn during foggy and slick road conditions. He was extricated from his squad car before being transported to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn where he was pronounced dead.
Officer Knapp had served with the Cook County Sheriff's Police Department for 16 years, and is survived by his wife, who is a lieutenant with the department, two sons, parents, and brother.
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Well, well, well...
Two years and two weeks have gone by since we lost our brother Jim. On 4 January, was there so much as a mention of his passing at ANY rollcall? No.
Was there a department notice? No.
A to/from from the bosses? No.
January 4th was just another day to come and go. A few pinches, a few admin tows, a few bullshit premise check CR's and thats all folks.
We still do not have him memorialized in the glass case that is in the lobby at the square.
This is truely some sorry shit.
Palcu are you paying attention?
Probably not.
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Now, back to the regularly scheduled programming.
to 9:50am
Ahh, what a mess-terpiece!!
Responding to: 1/15/2008 5:48:00 PM
What JP needs to address within his first month is to take away the marked squad from 1108.
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M.A. has been like that for years. Does she still hide in review? Wonder who her clout is? Saw her at a Christmas party one time. Looked like her dress was 11 sizes to small! Cant think of one reason that she has exclusive us of a marked car. If you look up Militant in the Dictionary you find her picture- what a hater!!
I disagree with belittling officers at role call
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So do I, but if you are having inspection and they don't pass, it is incumbent upon the inspecting supervisor to note the deficiency in an objective professional manner... in other words stating, to the member in question, quietly, "Your name tag is missing" or whatever.. is appropriate, any loud, joking berating of officers at roll call is inappropriate at best. The whole idea of inspecting the troops is to note any deficiencies in uniform/appearance and ensure they are corrected...
I also think that if there is a deficiency, the officer should be informed of it and given an opportunity to correct it. If the officer then fails to correct it, at that time, some further action by the supervisor may be necessary..
Do not stop at facial hair and shined shoes. How about nails, hair length, and body ear rings, nose rings, etc.
The uniform inspection needs to be legit.
1/15/2008 06:13:00 PM
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Come on, it will be standup roll call every day, if you point out ALL the violations on day one, what will you do the rest of the year???
Whats happening to deferred com, I lost 25 grand sense the 1st of the year. I was going to retire in April??????
1/15/2008 03:41:00 PM
retiring in 4 months and youre not in the fixed blend option??? Crazy
to; 1/15/2008 12:26:00 PM Wah! I can't use google earth, wah!
But our pensions are in trouble, our medical/dental insurance suck and are going up!
Well worth the price! You go Mayor!
1/15/2008 05:49:00 PM
APPLES AND ORANGES
go find private donors to support your pension as the olympic bid committee has done to finance this thing and then you can compare apples with apples ASSHAT
Anonymous said...
The FBI announced Tuesday it will assist Maywood police with the investigation of the 2006 slaying of Officer Thomas Wood, the first officer killed in that suburb's history.
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took long enough!!!
I dont care... Im a tact guy!
Anonymous said...
Brother, I can tell you countless stories about the 19th district day captain and her weapon. It was usually rolling around the floor of her unmarked when she was a youth Lt. Also could be found in an unlocked locker at the local gym while working out on duty. Oh yeah, sometimes it was found laying around the women's bathroom at the Area. She is top notch! and Hispanic to boot! Does she still label the things in her office with spanish words?
1/15/2008 05:38:00 PM
She must have studied really hard for that Captain's test!
About time we do something right! im tired of fat nasty bitchy Bosses. Lets get rid of those silly awards too. It seems that good hard working cops never get them.Im tired of all the wannabe armed forces members.You didnt have the balls to join the military so stop trying to play at doing it with this job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Whats happening to deferred com, I lost 25 grand sense the 1st of the year. I was going to retire in April??????
1/15/2008 03:41:00 PM
I bet you feel stupid right about now. Put the scratch in the backyard. It never goes down. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go rotate the mattress.
Regards:
Old traffic man.
hair standards dont count for the 002 district m-1- officers they have hair down to the ass and beards as well as earings.
maybe we can get rid of the idiots that cant get a legit cpd hat on top of their copious amounts of dreadlocks or braids. I think that would be a good start to a uniform code, wait.. we already have that rule but the bosses wont enforce it out of fear of being called racist.
No mention of the unibrow. WE must ban all unibrows on both genders. thank you.
"In the service we have to stay in tip top shape or they get rid of us especially once our stomachs hang lower than our knees
1/15/2008 07:23:00 PM"
You start your day off w/ about 90minutes of PT. Go back to the Barracks, shower, then have breakfast. That means the 0700 cars will hit the street around 10& the 8 o'clocks around 11.
That would include all watches correct?
A 4 1/2 hour day sounds good to me!!
i got a bump card. dont knock me. its legit. i break out and bleed from shaving. not to mention the headaches from the pain and aggravation that then comes afterwards. i shave my balls so that should make up for all you cry babies that have no idea how it is to live your life with this condition.
there is "no" condition that makes you put earings in your ears after roll call, popcorn, cornrolls, dreadlocks and ponytails not to mention the hoop nose rings and 4" colored fingernails. that, in my opinion is crossing the line.
Why does 1108 have FOP stuff on her car and a CPD hat band hanging from her rear view mirror on her personel vehicle? Why does she get to park in the 011th dist supervisors spots? A newer marked vehicle? What business does she have a Dominicks on Roosevelt? Why does the back seat get filled up with groceries? Is she buying that stuff for the poor kids form the community? If so why do they go into her SUV?
to 11:37 on 1/14-
"Come on! Do it! Kill me already! What are you waiting for!"
Anonymous said...
The FBI announced Tuesday it will assist Maywood police with the investigation of the 2006 slaying of Officer Thomas Wood, the first officer killed in that suburb's history.
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took long enough!!!
1/15/2008 08:47:00 PM
What about the copper killed in 011 2 years ago? fbi doesnt want to get involved?
1/15/2008 08:16:00 PM
Are you serious? How fucking stupid was this guy? Nobody else on the street and he's screaming down 76th Avenue because he's late for roll call. And 500 other people drove that road that morning and none of them ended up dead. It's sad, but what the fuck. Most of those sheriff's are more like Barney Fife than legitimate police. Shit, they can't even keep offenders from running out of the courthouse. Happens all the time. Someone will break loose in court and run through the whole building past twenty or thirty officers. It's a laughing stock. Nine times out of ten they only catch someone because there's Chicago PO's in building. All the sheriff's do all day is smoke. There's one white shirt that looks like he's nine months pregnant and going to have a heart attack any minute. And they are so self-important! One white shirt bitch walks around all day ending every sentence with "rank has it's privileges." I'd hate to have to work for any of them. Lazy pathetic political hacks.
Thank god I got a job at HQ, yes 6 years on the job, come in late, leave early.
WOW ! MR JODY W. IS GETTING OFF TO A GOOD START. STAND UP ROLL CALLS EVERY
DAY. WOW WE LOVE HIM. NOW WE ARE EXCITED! NOW WE ARE PUMPED! NOW WE ARE RE-ENERGIZED! LETS GO DO SOME POLICE WORK FOR THIS GUY! HAAAAAA
WAY TO PISS OFF THE SQUAD JODY. YOUR DOING GREAT.
Are you serious? How fucking stupid was this guy? Nobody else on the street and he's screaming down 76th Avenue because he's late for roll call. And 500 other people drove that road that morning and none of them ended up dead. It's sad, but what the fuck.
What the fuck yourself pal... He died in the line of duty. Have you blueshirts gotten so jaded with the upcoming J-fed invasion that you can't show a little empathy when a policeman dies?
I too am glad that 500 or 500 other people didnt end up dead. That is nice. What about the emotional trauma that I and the 10-15 other coppers that showed up on the scene endured seeing our friend torn up like that?
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Most of those sheriff's are more like Barney Fife than legitimate police. Shit, they can't even keep offenders from running out of the courthouse.
Jim was NOT a bailiff, he was a Sheriff's Policeman. The national law enforcement officers memorial webpage clearly states this.
If you are going to flame the dead, at least get your facts straight you moron!
Amazing Ron Paul smokes Rudy Guiliani again in Michigan.
What about the copper killed in 011 2 years ago? fbi doesnt want to get involved?
1/15/2008 09:57:00 PM
Some things are better left alone. Trust me on this.
AS A IRISH MALE ON THIS GREAT DEPT. I ALWAYS WONDER WHY I HAVE TO HAVE THE CLEAN IRA LOOK AND HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS DARK SKIN PEOPLE ON THE DEPT (MALES) WITH LONG PASSED THEIR SHOULDERS LENGTH HAIR AND THEY ARE IN UNIFORM. WHY WHY ME. SIGNED, NANCY KERRIGANS BROTHER
1/15/2008 10:21:00 AM
It's simple. Anyone who can spell 'past' gets to wear hair past their shoulders. They passed. You flunked. Sorry, P.
A crossing guard driving a marked Chicago Police Car. If I was running the show it would be 30 days for her and whoever lets her take the car out. Shes probably blow-n -a- boss tho, so it won't happen. "Do as I say, not as I do", CPD Supervisors Motto.
he has a girlfriend....2 infact........Palmela and Fistina the greatest(only) action he's ever seen
Gee whiz. The tact lt. in 003 clamps down on the facial hair standards on some of the tact team POs, and they come on here to diss him...what a bunch of pussies the blue shirts can be at times. I bet none of them would approach him personally and say any of the cowardly crap they posted here.
Grow up, Francis!!
What about the copper killed in 011 2 years ago? fbi doesnt want to get involved?
1/15/2008 09:57:00 PM
Some things are better left alone. Trust me on this.
Trust you on what. If you arent going to explain yourself dont talk shit. Especially since you dont know what you are talking about.
Anonymous said...
The FBI announced Tuesday it will assist Maywood police with the investigation of the 2006 slaying of Officer Thomas Wood, the first officer killed in that suburb's history.
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took long enough!!!
1/15/2008 08:47:00 PM
Maywood...an up and coming town. Its other name is Austin West.
"In the service we have to stay in tip top shape or they get rid of us especially once our stomachs hang lower than our knees
1/15/2008 07:23:00 PM"
You start your day off w/ about 90minutes of PT. Go back to the Barracks, shower, then have breakfast. That means the 0700 cars will hit the street around 10& the 8 o'clocks around 11.
That would include all watches correct?
A 4 1/2 hour day sounds good to me!!
1/15/2008 09:26:00 PM
It's really not that hard. Hey granted we all have busy lives but for the time it takes to stop by the local bar or the time it takes to kill a six pack one can easily jog a mile or two per day.... hell every other day for that matter .... even once or twice a week or lift weights or something to maintain some type of physical shape or health. It shouldn't be incorporated into work schedule it should be done on one's own personal time granted they still want to remain employed.. just a thought like I said no offense but I can never forget the day when I was a juvenile years back over in the dearborn homes when I outran an officer that was trying to chase me and he was so close but couldn't keep up because he was so overweight.. I could literally hear him wheezing behind me while in chase.
Sgt. Ebay does not have any stones to put in his Tijuana sling shot.
NYFD and NYPD hate Rudy Giuliani as we hate Daley. Do not vote for this worthless candidate.
He has weakened their police department and are paid zilch.
I spent time in New York after 9-11and they opposed him then. Their opinion is all I need.
Is that all you got to say about the guys in 022? what about that danni-mullet head from mt greenwood. and then there was the sgt with a pony tail.
That 0110 in 011 is someone's "skeleton in the closet".
They have to live with it for now until it comes out someday.
But for now it's, "murder she wrote"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
hair standards dont count for the 002 district m-1- officers they have hair down to the ass and beards as well as earings.
1/15/2008 09:17:00 PM
Hey, what do you expect, ITS THE DEUCE!!
advice, young one...sit on your stick and spin.
Anonymous said...
WOW ! MR JODY W. IS GETTING OFF TO A GOOD START. STAND UP ROLL CALLS EVERY
DAY. WOW WE LOVE HIM. NOW WE ARE EXCITED! NOW WE ARE PUMPED! NOW WE ARE RE-ENERGIZED! LETS GO DO SOME POLICE WORK FOR THIS GUY! HAAAAAA
WAY TO PISS OFF THE SQUAD JODY. YOUR DOING GREAT.
1/15/2008 10:39:00 PM
ITs not J-fed...its politics. J-Fed comes around, says he is a reformer. BEOFORE he starts, the top bosses are suddenly....yup....reformers too, and aching to be noticed. May explain why we have numerous letters at roll call regarding minutae....(my new sha)(cant spell this late, bite me, at least im hooked on phonics). Let the games begin. "hey boss, look at me, i punish sgts for using tazers" "hey boss look at me, I make the troops stand inspection" and so on....its posturing. Once a 1st dep is chosen, it will calm down.
It's simple. Anyone who can spell 'past' gets to wear hair past their shoulders. They passed. You flunked. Sorry, P.
1/15/2008 11:19:00 PM
You mean PABST? Mmmmmmmm blue ribbon!
Anonymous said...
Oh and all the different uniforms that we are authorized to wear per general order will be changed. We are to appear uniform in our dress as well.
Heard that when assigned to a detail will only be able to wear 80/20 pants (no cargos); uniform jacket (no sweater or leather); long sleeves and tie (no turtle neck) and crown cap (no baseball or knit caps).
can i still wear my pantyhose, frilly undies and garter under my uni? then i'm ok.
Why does 1108 have FOP stuff on her car and a CPD hat band hanging from her rear view mirror on her personel vehicle? Why does she get to park in the 011th dist supervisors spots? A newer marked vehicle? What business does she have a Dominicks on Roosevelt? Why does the back seat get filled up with groceries? Is she buying that stuff for the poor kids form the community? If so why do they go into her SUV?
Why are u a rat?
The department has turned into a bad episode of Reno 911!
Officially, no one can touch the "braids" or "dreadlocks" issues. Officially, it all must fit NEATLY under the CPD bb cap, the knit cap, or the crown cap.
NEATLY.
can i still wear my pantyhose, frilly undies and garter under my uni? then i'm ok.
JEDRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
NYFD and NYPD hate Rudy Giuliani as we hate Daley. Do not vote for this worthless candidate.
He has weakened their police department and are paid zilch.
I spent time in New York after 9-11and they opposed him then. Their opinion is all I need.
They are also the ones who helped put HIllary the carpetbagger into office. Enough said about their opinion........
So?do I have to shave my landing strip now??
Whats happening to deferred com, I lost 25 grand sense the 1st of the year. I was going to retire in April??????
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Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh???
Follow the Market - Dip-shit.
Anonymous said...
NYFD and NYPD hate Rudy Giuliani as we hate Daley. Do not vote for this worthless candidate.
He has weakened their police department and are paid zilch.
I spent time in New York after 9-11and they opposed him then. Their opinion is all I need.
1/16/2008 01:05:00 AM
He's the candidate the Democrats fear the most and can beat either Hillary or Barack Hussein. HE GETS MY VOTE FOR THAT ALONE!
Trouble with uniforms now is NO-ONE
knows what goes with what. Can I wear my Corframs with the cargo pants? How about a dickie with a short sleeve shirt? Chukka boots with my reefer? Baseball hat with 80/20's? and that STUPID knit hat, that if you wear it right, you have mickey mouse ears?
They blew it with 3+ different classes of uniforms. Bring back my shiny IKE jacket..Now that's cool.
I am glad that we have a new boss in town who won't take shit. Everyone should take pride in their appearance and have their uniform pressed, neat and together. Compare Chicago cops to other cops like the state troopers and you will see the difference. Thank God that Jody is going to clean up all of this nonsense. Having shiny shoes, a clean appearance and a pressed uniform makes us look professional and also it intimidates the bad guys too.
They cant ban the leather jacket from details. When I came on it was part of the uniform. They would have to pay for first issue of that nifty jacket and I really dont see them doing that.
Officially, no one can touch the "braids" or "dreadlocks" issues. Officially, it all must fit NEATLY under the CPD bb cap, the knit cap, or the crown cap.
NEATLY.
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The order OFFICIALLY states...no crazy hairstyles....NO DREADLOCKS/MOHAWKS
Anonymous said...
What about the copper killed in 011 2 years ago? fbi doesnt want to get involved?
1/15/2008 09:57:00 PM
Some things are better left alone. Trust me on this.
1/15/2008 10:53:00 PM
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you obviously have inside knowledge. a cop gets killed in his own backyard and you want it left alone? hmmmmmmmmm
Vote Republican
Thank god I got a job at HQ, yes 6 years on the job, come in late, leave early.
***Well pack your bags and pick your district (Ha Ha)
All this crap going on in the district right now with the stand up roll calls, proper uniforms etc have nothing to do with J-Fed. It's the Mayor who's noticing things and the bosses or suck-holes that are jumping through hoops to address it.
If you are going to flame the dead, at least get your facts straight you moron!
1/15/2008 10:49:00 PM
Moron here. For the record and in defense of the REAL police, I am not a cop, just someone familiar with the situation. And I'm not flaming the dead. I am addressing your ridiculous attempt to frame his demise in a more attractive light. 1. He did not die in the line of duty. 2. He had the accident because he was chronically late for work and that is where he was headed when he met his maker. The reason, imho, that nobody has made a big deal out of this is because it was a totally preventable death and people (while they may not say it to your face, his friends or family) is that his behavior and judgement was inconsistent with a police officer, first responder, etc. It never should have happened. 3. If you're traumatized, get some counseling through the department. And as Jim Morrison said..."keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel." Good advice for blowjobs AND avoiding driving under semi's.
Mmmmmmm....nothing better than a clean shaven man in uniform. Straight to home plate.
All crossing guard supervisors drive marked police cars and use the --08 callsign....I guess you just don't have enough time on the job to work days and realize that junior!!
Like it or not the crossing guard supervisor is a supervisor assigned to the district. They may not be the police but they are supervisors assigned to the district, just like the district manager and the chief engineer. The only difference is that the crossing guard supervisor gets to drive a marked squad car and talks on the police radio.
Whats happening to deferred com, I lost 25 grand sense the 1st of the year. I was going to retire in April??????
1/15/2008 03:41:00 PM
retiring in 4 months and youre not in the fixed blend option??? Crazy
Sorry to disappoint you but I don't need to tap into it until 2018 why would I put it in a fixed rate. I'm telling you folks to keep track of your money as this administration is throwing away your future.
Hey, to the guy who says it's so easy to keep in shape, I've been at this 22 years. From my sports days, long, long, long ago, I have no knees left. I tore my rotator cuff tackling a car thief and never made an IOD because it didn't start hurting for three days..Yea, I know, yadda, yadda, yadda about an IOD afterwards.. Either way, I'm a single parent who needs to work over time and part time and can't afford medical or IOD, so no surgery on shoulder. My elbows click and hurt like a mother every time I do a push up. Hey, but I still recently caught a seventeen year old in an all out sprint and no he wasn't 400 lbs or a double amputee.
So it ain't so easy for all of us..
Peace
maybe jodie will look into some of the beefs the sgts have sitting down at i.a.d. i hope there are some asshole, loser boses sweating their ass off right now. and they should be too.!
Why are u a rat?
1/16/2008 04:18:00 AM
Uh, maybe just a fucking taxpayer?
What about the copper killed in 011 2 years ago? fbi doesnt want to get involved?
1/15/2008 09:57:00 PM
They are. They just can't talk about it. Yet.
Some things are better left alone. Trust me on this.
1/15/2008 10:53:00 PM
OH-- you have all the info??? Shutup asshat.
Gee whiz. The tact lt. in 003 clamps down on the facial hair standards on some of the tact team POs, and they come on here to diss him...what a bunch of pussies the blue shirts can be at times. I bet none of them would approach him personally and say any of the cowardly crap they posted here.
Grow up, Francis!!
1/15/2008 11:43:00 PM
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Is that still McMurray? He should worry about his fat guy before he worries about facial hair
How about this? Let men grow facial hair as nature intended us to. "Problem" solved.
"Screw it! Uniformity for all! Let's get rid of the bump card in it's entirety"
1/15/2008 01:37:00 PM
...So we can all have soft, smooth faces like our wives, girlfriends, sisters, daughters, or moms. I can't wait.
Sounds like Coldtype is afraid to lose his "walrus" mustache?
pos in braids and dreadlocks look like your average citizen, but any would be muggers get a big surprise if they try to rob or mug them and that is very satifying to know that.
Anonymous said...
I am glad that we have a new boss in town who won't take shit. Everyone should take pride in their appearance and have their uniform pressed, neat and together. Compare Chicago cops to other cops like the state troopers and you will see the difference. Thank God that Jody is going to clean up all of this nonsense. Having shiny shoes, a clean appearance and a pressed uniform makes us look professional and also it intimidates the bad guys too.
1/16/2008 03:40:00 PM
Won't take shit? Come on hairgel he will do whatever daley tells him to do! daley owns him for 310K are you a goof! Get your shinebox and shine my shoes thanks!
Now that is a stretch, talking about a Crossing Guard Supervisor on SCC. What happened? Did she tell you suck off or would she not -uck you? Get over it, move on, this is for CPD issues not your personal fantasies.
1/17/2008 05:20:00 PM
It's ok, you can say fuck.
1/16/2008 01:00:00 AM
So it's true about the tiny wee-wees? Gee, the Irish curse was bad enough. What's a girl to do?
I hope the new boss can get s few cops to take a bath. I don't know why they come to work smelling.
The order OFFICIALLY states...no crazy hairstyles....NO DREADLOCKS/MOHAWKS
Who cares what the order says, Pat Hill set a precedent when she took the city to court over her dreadlocks and she won! If you are ever taken to task over your "locks" contact Attorney Joe Roddy he represented her and won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry to all of you who don't like "locks" I do as long as they are neat. I have seen plenty of officers with them and their appearance commanded more respect than officers with stupid crew cuts.
I have seen plenty of officers with them and their appearance commanded more respect than officers with stupid crew cuts.
The dread appearance commands respect? Good God, what are you smoking?
It looks so unprofessional and I'd have a hard time taking any officer serious at all, especially with dirty dreads that are could be infested with lice (hey, it happens!).
The crew cut is paramilitary, which most PD's follow. THAT, and impeccable dress appearance commands respect - not some dirty, nappy hairstyle that someone wears only to defy what they're supposed to do.
It's not just NYPD or Chicago that have these issues. Phiily's got them as well, and I'm sure there are many other big city PD's that deal with this. I just wonder how they deal with the situation. Is it a lose - lose situation for every big city?
It's a shame directives, rules, etc. can't be enforced because you've got people who sue and break these rules, and the liberals just allow it.
When does someone say enough is enough?
"The dread appearance commands respect? Good God, what are you smoking?"
-Kateykakes
It's nice to know that you are the arbiter of the "proper" hairstyles for African-Americans. Perhaps you could also suggest skin-treatments that would lighten the complexions of those with hues you've determined to be "too dark" to command respect as well.
As I understand it, hair texture is a genetically determined trait--like skin color. Therefore, the department has no business determining what kind of hair is "proper" for it's officers to have. This would explain Pat Hill's court victory over those in the Chicago Police department's command structure who would have raised no objection at all had she opted to use chemical straighteners in her hair to mimic the [proper?] hair of Caucasians.
Your argument is without merit Kateykakes and is inherently racist.
Blogger kateykakes said...
I have seen plenty of officers with them and their appearance commanded more respect than officers with stupid crew cuts.
The dread appearance commands respect? Good God, what are you smoking?
It looks so unprofessional and I'd have a hard time taking any officer serious at all, especially with dirty dreads that are could be infested with lice (hey, it happens!).
The crew cut is paramilitary, which most PD's follow. THAT, and impeccable dress appearance commands respect - not some dirty, nappy hairstyle that someone wears only to defy what they're supposed to do.
It's not just NYPD or Chicago that have these issues. Phiily's got them as well, and I'm sure there are many other big city PD's that deal with this. I just wonder how they deal with the situation. Is it a lose - lose situation for every big city?
It's a shame directives, rules, etc. can't be enforced because you've got people who sue and break these rules, and the liberals just allow it.
When does someone say enough is enough?
1/18/2008 12:52:00 AM
Great, "and the liberals just allow it". So everything is the liberals fault isn't it? LOL, LOL, LOL. I just have to laugh that you think the fact that some people wear dreads and it's the liberals fault. LOL, LOL, LOL. Next thing you know, we got ten inches of snow and it was the liberals fault. LOL. LOL. LOL.
if you didnt do anything wrong, then why would someone be called a rat?? just wondering......?
I THINK SEISER SHOULD HAVE HIS HAIR IN DREADLOCKS.
Anonymous said...
Just wondering? Did the Captain on days in 019 get a CR # for leaving her gun in the glove box of a squad car?
no she had it in the gym downstairs all along. lmao
1/15/2008 12:24:00 PM
Try again, too bad the 3rd watch Capt wasn't there when the PO came in with the gun...there WOULD have been a CR for sure.
Coldcase,
I told you what the rules were on MY site, and if you can't play by them, oh, well, too bad. I get the last word. You're now history there.
I don't need someone telling me how they think I feel. When I said my comments here had NOTHING to do with racism, I meant it. Some people can think past color, but apparently you can't.
My opinion remains the same. I think the dread locks look unprofessional, whether a white person or a black person wears them.
And to respond to one of your comments on my site, you're right - if it came down to an officer saving my life, the dreads wouldn't come into play, and I would still thank him/her because I would be forever grateful.
BTW, here in Upper Darby, which is right outside of Philadelphia, the officers take pride in how they look, and Superintendent Chitwood would NEVER allow the dreads, males with earrings, facial hair or any of the other bullshit that is overlooked by some big city depts unless it was an undercover narcotics officer.
Who cares what the order says, Pat Hill set a precedent when she took the city to court over her dreadlocks and she won!
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When did that happen?
I know about the earrings, but hair? never heard of it. Please explain, when did this happen and what were the exact results?
I'd rather work with a clean guy with braids than a guy with a crew cut who reeks of farts and alcohol.
Coldcase.. Stop over and reply anytime.. Kate: Chitwood is a MOUTHPIECE. You not a cop, never were, you know NOTHING about anything other than the newspapers. Mike Chitwood or "Media Mike" Yeah, COPS coined the phrase", first showd up and right after that, announced that "HE" had all these drug busts".
No Kate, The officers and detectives were working on the cases for over a year, then Mikey comes in and want's all the glory?
NADA. Ask ANY UDPD off the record abvout how they feel about your HERO. I'd feel safer with Barney Fife as my Chief.
Still pissed because I banned you, Franny?
Great, "and the liberals just allow it". So everything is the liberals fault isn't it? LOL, LOL, LOL. I just have to laugh that you think the fact that some people wear dreads and it's the liberals fault. LOL, LOL, LOL. Next thing you know, we got ten inches of snow and it was the liberals fault. LOL. LOL. LOL.
1/18/2008 06:52:00 AM
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no.. its obviously George Bush's fault, just like everything else!
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