He is next in command stupid, he should be in charge! I hope he gets it, not because he is Latino or anything like that, because he is a stand up boss and knows how to run this department. He is not my clout, I only know him from my dealings with him over the years. By the way, I am black and proud of it, and I happen to respect any descent person especially a descent boss, they are truly hard to find.
By Dan P. Blake | Tribune reporter 5:26 AM CST, February 1, 2008
A 49-year-old man was shot and killed by Chicago police at a South Side motel overnight, officials said.
The shooting occurred around 12:30 a.m. after Hostage and Barricade Team officers were called to the motel in the 9100 block of South Stony Island Avenue, said Ilana Rosenzweig, chief of the Independent Police Review Authority.
Beat officers first arrived on the scene around 9:30 p.m. and then called the HBT officers, Rosenzweig said, but added that the reason why police were called to the motel and what led up to the fatal shooting is under investigation. She said a gun was found at the scene.
"An investigation will go into who's weapon that was and how it arrived at the scene, and we'll go through the entire process that led up to the shooting," Rosenzweig said.
The man, identified as Philmore Wilkins, of the 9300 block of South Kingston Avenue, was pronounced dead at 1:18 a.m. Friday at Stroger Hospital, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office. He appeared to have been shot multiple times.
Rosenzweig said three HBT officers fired their weapons during the incident, but it was not clear how many hit the man.
She said no one else was hurt during the incident, but could not provide further details.
"All that needs to be confirmed by gathering the 911 tapes to determine exactly what the 911 call was about,"
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER DR. CHILTON FROM SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? (THE EVIL DR WHO RAN THE JAIL WHERE LECTOR WAS JAILED)IS IT JUST ME OR DOES J-FED LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HIM?
Off topic: Iragi insurgents sponsored by Al Qaida used mentally disabled women as suicide bombers killing upwards of seventy persons in a crowded market. This is at least the second time insurgents have used the disabled to commit bombings. In 2005 insurgents used a seven year old girl with Down Syndrome as a suicide bomber.
The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!
After looking at change order Grau was a good choice for 1st deputy! At least he knows how to be the police, but now will he be city halls puppet like the rest? Lets hope not!
Grau has always been a boss who notices the worker bee -unlike Charlie "Chumpie" Williams. This is the 2nd good appointment choice by the big J. The first being Jim Hickey to R&D post, a smart head and was the real deal police in his earlier career. Two for two by the new boss - so far so good!
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
************** great choice to me....you have no clue what your talking about grau is a great guy and a better boss... J-fed.. good choices so far.. maybe this guy isnt so f'n bad afterall
Grau is a good boss, and a good police officer because of the man he was before he came on this job. You sir were a piece of shit before you came on this job, are a piece of shit now, and will be a piece of shit when you leave this department. I feel for you children and family.
Grau is a way better choice then Williams. Williams was just waiting to get in that spot and really start burning people. maybe even set them on fire himself with a can of gasoloine!!!!CONGRATS Grau and to bad for mr Williams, but good for us! maybe there is hope for the troops......maybe. or maybe this may be some double cross like in the movies and before you know it we are really doomed. time will tell. signed.... THE RIDDLER
Anonymous said... Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
You couldn't be more wrong. if you knew him as a tact guy you'd know he was a working copper who put a lot of bad guys in jail. He earned every rank. He is exactly the kind of leader we need as 1st Deputy at this point in time. Hopefully this will be permanent
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
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Hey nitwit. You wouldn't know a policeman if he hit you in the head. Hiram Grau is a good guy who cares about the people on this job, not just those who work directly under him. He is a mans man who proved up on battlefields while you were still in short pants. STFU about things you don't know about. Whats the matter, your clout on the way out? You are a spineless prick to throw out that race shit. I hope that he gets it permanently. It would be good for the whole department, even assholes like you.
Anonymous said... Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
Bullshit. Are you that full of hate against latinos? That man is qualified. Name one other exempt that is qualified? All of them are absolutely clout heavy. Grau is a class act, educated and has respect of his crew and officers on the street. He actually cares for welfare of officers. Really, wake up and thin you idiot.
You would think that since Phil Cline was our Supt. for 4 years, you would know how to spell his last name.
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
You can't be serious! Grau is a stand up guy and a boss that gets shit done. Just ask anyone. And I don't mean the skinhead sitting next to you at the bar either.
Whoever the hell called Hiram a Arab is a dumbass! If you knew this man he is hispanic, and a prince of a man and copper. He still remembers what is was like in a blue shirt and sticks up for us. Anyone who has a problem with him should schedual a meet with him and put your beef in. If he dont tell you where you can shove it, make a post and I will direct you to me and I will!!
The only negative thing I know of that H. Grau did was to merit promote a few people who have no business being det then sgt. (can you say double-merit?) It was no secret tha H.Grau was the guy who put them in. The one I know hardly shows up for work and supervises from his phone at home in bed then comes in and does his 2hours at work surfing the net. Perhaps he REALLY doesn't know this person he put in for promotion, who knows, and perhaps did it as a favor for someone else. In fact, if Hiram knew what this guy does, he would be VERY embarassed. That's just one thing that is a no-win, morale buster in this dept. Super JW, PLEASE scrap the merit process until you can come up with some better "merit" system, which I highly doubt can be done, since merit=clout=any possible unqualified goof. Good luck to our new super and 1st deputy.
Way to go Hiram! Grau worked for/with J-Fed when J-Fed was the ASAC in charge of the violent crimes division and Grau was on the Gang Task Force. Not a fan of J-Fed, however this is a most excellent choice. Grau knows his shit and is a good man to boot.
If Hiram is such a great boss, why does he put up with the likes of Maria Maher. He is her boss after all! The truth is that Grau is 100% affirmative action, he is the result of racial quotas on this job. He may be a nice man but he is still little Luis Gutierrez's political operative in the department. Never passed a test and never had too!
I worked for him when he was commander of the 14th dist. He wasn't an ass hole like Velez.yet he was a company man. Understand something they all are when push comes to shove. You don't get a that a boy because you treat others decent. Your suppose to.
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER DR. CHILTON FROM SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? (THE EVIL DR WHO RAN THE JAIL WHERE LECTOR WAS JAILED)IS IT JUST ME OR DOES J-FED LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HIM?
Farrell for Chief of D's or southside "D" Unit Commander. A waste of his talents in Patrol. Should be out where it's the busiest and most violent. He knows more about what it takes to command "D" Units than ANYONE on this Job, Period...A2, A1, anywhere, we need him.
"An investigation will go into who's weapon that was and how it arrived at the scene, and we'll go through the entire process that led up to the shooting," Rosenzweig said. -----
Cmon lady!! Dude bought it at Chuck's, clear not reg.
i worked for grau in 14. nice guy, good boss. never got in our way. he'd just tell us what he needed and asked what we needed from him to accomplish it. it was a sad day in 014 when he was promoted up and maher became our commander. she is a micromanager like you wouldn't believe. always getting in the way, telling everyone what to do, how to do it, etc... then she'd yell at you afterward. she was always concerned about her image and placated the locals.
great choice to me....you have no clue what your talking about grau is a great guy and a better boss... J-fed.. good choices so far.. maybe this guy isnt so f'n bad afterall
Understand! he told Daley what he wanted to hear at the last interview Grau wants to leave with a big pension they all want to tap in for large green. Think about it.
He is FAIR and a gentleman. He was one of the best bosses I've worked for. I am a no clout P.O. but he always took time and said "hello" and asked how I was when I worked for him.
Very few bosses ever displayed anything close to that level of civility when I worked for any of them. Most didn't give a shit about their PO's under them, instead only caring about THEMSELVES and their careers!
I would hope that you are not a police officer. If you are, you are a disgrace to this Department. The time has passed when people were judged by the color of their skin or ethnicity. There are excellent bosses in this Department from all races and ethnic backgrounds (granted, maybe not enough). People like you no longer should be part of our Police Department.
Tremendous choice! Hiram's a great person that really cares about the average cop. He's never forgotten where he came from. A stand up guy. Congratulations Hiram!
Congrats First Deputy Grau. A great choice. A cop at heart. For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
Wasn't Grau's sister "C" collecting disability for years? All of a sudden she is cured and at O'hare as a Sgt? Any truth to this?
Oh my god, was she the one who worked in the office on the 2nd floor in 14th dist hiding as she had some spinal problem all the while he was trying to keep her on the books. I have to say she was really bad unable to even walk up the stairs without assistance. I was wondering who her clout was, as at that time she only had maybe 3 years. What the fuck.
The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!
I'm a Viet Nam veteran I spent all my service time there in the DMZ zone. I'm very lucky to be alive. Many of my friends didn't make it home. That said, as a young man I was very naive and believed I was there for all the right reasons. Yet as I now know (lies from our government)Every day I'm sickened thinking about what is now happening in Iraq a war for NO reason (oil) IRAQ did not Attack the USA. I love this Country and as I see it we show we love this Country when we as Americans Question the government. Those of you who will be going to the DC area in May for police week do me a favor and stop by the Viet Nam wall and say hello to some of my friends over 57thousand names then tell me what they died for. We hit back for 9-11 that was Afghanistan. Please take care of our soldiers bring them home. be safe
2/01 8:12pm Yeah she was cured and came off of disability to take the Lt's test. Now that is a fact. Then when Daley made the Fed the Supt she was spotted at the last retirement seminar because it looked like her brother wasn't gonna get her made Lt. Well this is Chicago and all that has changed look for her to get promoted and then retire after her time so we can lose more pension money. Hiram may be a good guy but don't ever think his sister ever did a minute of police work although years ago she was Joe Delopez's secretary and translator in 014 because Joe was a "fake" Hispanic. Remember it is all legit!
Understand! he told Daley what he wanted to hear at the last interview Grau wants to leave with a big pension they all want to tap in for large green. Think about it.
2/01/2008 08:24:00 PM
I'm sure that would never ever cross your mind..you wouldn't think of saying something that would bring about all that fortune..right.
The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!
2/01/2008 12:25:00 PM
Are you brain damaged? You must've forgot that McCain voted against funding for the Iraq war twice before finally voting for it the third time.
Get your facts straight fuck face. Vote for McCain and be doomed.
FOR THE MOST PART, I GET A REAL HOOT FROM THIS BLOG. MY HUSBAND IS A POLICE OFFICER AND A REGULAR READER OF THIS BLOG. HE HAS REALLY BEEN DEPRESSED LATELY BECAUSE HIS BOSSES KEEP RUNNING INTERFERENCE WITH HIM DOING HIS JOB. GANGS, DRUGS AND GUNS RUN HAND AND HAND, ASK ANYBODY POLICE OFFICER. SO WHY ARE HIS BOSSES HAVING CONTINUOUS BRAIN FARTS WITH ACCEPTING THIS SIMPLE AND OBVIOUS CONCEPT?
She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion.
ARE YOU CRAZY!!!! "She doesn't hold grudges... She's a great boss""" Ya right!!!
"Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her."
No you 're a Suckass Company Punk, Who doesn't have a spine. you'll crash& burn after she leaves& come back to the area w/ your tail between your legz looking for a new bosses ass to kiss.
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
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So obviously you don't know anything about Hiram Grau. Unless you know what you are talking about don't bother.
If you THINK you know what you are talking about, give examples of why Grau was not a great choice. Or perhaps your comments was made because he isn't your "call."
Wasn't Grau's sister "C" collecting disability for years? All of a sudden she is cured and at O'hare as a Sgt? Any truth to this?
Oh my god, was she the one who worked in the office on the 2nd floor in 14th dist hiding as she had some spinal problem all the while he was trying to keep her on the books. I have to say she was really bad unable to even walk up the stairs without assistance. I was wondering who her clout was, as at that time she only had maybe 3 years. What the fuck.
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Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about. And, even if this is her (it isn't) what does that have to do with Hiram? We are all supposed to be adults and cannot control another person or what they do. If you have a problem with "C", blame her - not Hiram.
Hickey is a really nice guy and probably really good at what he does, but please don't try to say he was ever the police. He came on in the 70's, married to the daughter of a U.S. congressman (Murphy?) and wanted to work the street, but the powers to be were told to keep him out of harms way. He went right to the desk in 007 and then had inside jobs the rest of his career. Then retired to be rehired in the exact same job, salary on top of pension. He's clout. But, like I say, a nice guy, defintely not the police.
I'm a Viet Nam veteran I spent all my service time there in the DMZ zone. I'm very lucky to be alive. Many of my friends didn't make it home. That said, as a young man I was very naive and believed I was there for all the right reasons. Yet as I now know (lies from our government)Every day I'm sickened thinking about what is now happening in Iraq a war for NO reason (oil) IRAQ did not Attack the USA. I love this Country and as I see it we show we love this Country when we as Americans Question the government. Those of you who will be going to the DC area in May for police week do me a favor and stop by the Viet Nam wall and say hello to some of my friends over 57thousand names then tell me what they died for. We hit back for 9-11 that was Afghanistan. Please take care of our soldiers bring them home. be safe
2/01/2008 10:49:00 PM
You were there for the right reason. To keep Communism from sreading. Have you forgotten hom many people the Communists butchered AFTER we pulled out? Make no mistake about it. IT WAS DEMOCRATS, HOLLYWOOD, ACADEMIA AND THE MEDIA that lost the Viet Nam war. HISTORY IS REPEATING ITSELF. You have fallen for the Liberal/Socialist dogma of the Democrats AGAIN! If Iraq was not a problem how do you explain Al Qaida fighting so fiercly to keep it? Hitler didn't attack the U.S. either, should we have just minded our own business there too? YOU SOUND LIKE MICHAEL MOORE PARROTING THE DEMOCRATS PLATFORM. Try another blog TROLL!
Anonymous said... Congrats First Deputy Grau. A great choice. A cop at heart. For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
2/01/2008 10:07:00 PM
That's very nice Maria! Why didn't you just sign your name to it?
All of the exempts are puppets on a string. Do you really think that whoever gets the spot is going to give a shit about us? They sold their souls to the devil (Daley) when they put on that gold star. Quit fooling yourselves. They do as they're told, like it or not.
why are some hammering Grau for taking care of his sister? wouldn't you do the same if you were in that position? let's keep it real! the only thing I know about Grau is he talked to us for a hour in the academy and reminded us that the troops are important and we need to do as much as possible to help them thru our experience. Also he is the only exempt, that I know of, that sent out a congratulations on our promotion that was hand signed. Yes he was the highest ranking member of the dept. after Dana left, but let's not do what the bosses in the past have done, Guilty until proven innocent.
You obviously never worked for him. He is small minded and an intellectual midget. Afraid of his own shadow and cannot do anything in a straight forward way.
Probably the sneakiest backstabbing creep on the department.
He's worked in personnel ERS and approved a P.O. to go to chiropractor school-give me a frick'n break! How is that related to police work?
He's clout, he's beholden to his 'people' and is a puppet at their whim. He's got no foresight or vision and certainly is not pro-police or pro forward movement. Having him head R & D will set us in concrete, never to move forward until he blessedly retires.
"2/01 8:12pm Yeah she was cured and came off of disability to take the Lt's test. Now that is a fact. Then when Daley made the Fed the Supt she was spotted at the last retirement seminar because it looked like her brother wasn't gonna get her made Lt. Well this is Chicago and all that has changed look for her to get promoted and then retire after her time so we can lose more pension money. Hiram may be a good guy but don't ever think his sister ever did a minute of police work although years ago she was Joe Delopez's secretary and translator in 014 because Joe was a "fake" Hispanic. Remember it is all legit!"
If you were my brother and I was a boss..I could not or would not do the same for you..it just wouldn't be right..how could I ..what would mommy or all the other P.O.'s say ? GFY !!
Fact: she was legitimately injured, HG had nothing whatsoever to do with her time, career or pending retirement. This may come as a shock to you but there really are people out there that are ...get ready now.... MORE inteligent than you..and in some cases..so are thier siblings. That is why stupid..we cannot be brothers.
She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. **NOBODY should have to scream at people to get their message across. We're not kids. She's a poor manager walking around without a clue! 2/02/2008 08:43:00 AM ################################## THEN QUITE ACTING LIKE A KID AND YOU WON'T BE TREATED LIKE ONE!
. . . Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about. And, even if this is her (it isn't) what does that have to do with Hiram? We are all supposed to be adults and cannot control another person or what they do. If you have a problem with "C", blame her - not Hiram. 2/02/2008 08:05:00 AM ################################## Oh, its her alright! Came back to work after 10 yrs of disability and whammo = promoted to Sgt.!!!!! Sent to O'Hare. Talk about neoptism!
Why are you ripping on a vietnam veteran? Any veteran, from any war, is allowed their opinion on any military topic without ridicule from anyone. Any veteran whose life was in danger deserves that respect. You need to read some history books on the vietnam war. I will suggest one. It's called "Odyssey of an American Warrior" by Col. David H. Hackworth. The colonel did multiple tours in vietnam and was the most decorated living soldier until he died of cancer in May 2006. He got the cancer from the agent orange they sprayed all over the place.
Great response, 8:26am, now I dont have to answer that guy;cant say it any better. That poor depressed drunken slob devalued everything he and his friends fought and died for...
Anonymous said... Wasn't Grau's sister "C" collecting disability for years? All of a sudden she is cured and at O'hare as a Sgt? Any truth to this?
His sister is not controlled by him. She is her own person. I could name 200 officers absolutely abusing the disability roll and limited duty roll. How many limited duty officers work at 35th street? Exempted from street details but still work overtime. Limited duty is used by many to hide from ths street. No own has the nerve to challenge their status. White shirts are to blame for limited/light duty. Typical white shirt behavior to ignore a huge problem. Hopefully, J-FED will look into the medical policy and light duty status.
You are an asshole. I can name a dozen dicks at A/4 alone who could run the Chicago Police Department in their sleep better than Starks, Cuello, Maher, Avila, or the other affirmative action hires could. But these men won't be asked to do so because they're white males who were robbed of their promotions soley because they are white and were passed up by blacks and hispanics scoring a thousand behind them and promoted my "merit". Talk to the chief of dicks for five seconds to see what affirmative action has done to the Dept. The "time has passed" you imbecile? No, it's here and the white male is the target. You stole our promotions but you'll never steal our character, work ethic, and intelligence.
FOR THE MOST PART, I GET A REAL HOOT FROM THIS BLOG. MY HUSBAND IS A POLICE OFFICER AND A REGULAR READER OF THIS BLOG. HE HAS REALLY BEEN DEPRESSED LATELY BECAUSE HIS BOSSES KEEP RUNNING INTERFERENCE WITH HIM DOING HIS JOB. GANGS, DRUGS AND GUNS RUN HAND AND HAND, ASK ANYBODY POLICE OFFICER. SO WHY ARE HIS BOSSES HAVING CONTINUOUS BRAIN FARTS WITH ACCEPTING THIS SIMPLE AND OBVIOUS CONCEPT?
Sounds like you Husband is telling you war stories with his own spin on them. This place is nothing but a job. He will leave yet nothing will change. Tell him your not impressed my his tough guy police work but by his love.
HG:He is not my clout, I only know him from my dealings with him over the years. By the way, I am black and proud of it, and I happen to respect any descent person especially a descent boss, they are truly hard to find.
2/01/2008 08:31:00 AM
OK,OK, we get it but I'm still waiting to find out what managerial/supervisory skills he posses that makes him the omnipotent one. He treated you like a person, GREAT, but why should he be #1?
I hope it stays this way because HG is not only a good boss but a gentleman to boot.
Signed , Someone who used to work for him.
2/01/2008 10:10:00 AM
Yeah but WHY is he a "GOOD BOSS?"
urizzi said...
¿Hiram Grau? I glad to see their promoting A-Rab/Americans on this job!!!
2/01/2008 11:12:00 AM
No MORON, he's a puerto rican.
H H HOLMES said...
Grau has always been a boss who notices the worker bee..
UH NO he doesn't, I know, been there since he became Dep.Supt.Inv.Serv's
HG is a great boss and leader...stand up man!!!
2/01/2008 03:40:00 PM
WHY? Please answer substantially.
Anonymous said...
Grau, Viet Nam combat veteran, Army special forces, silver star awardee.
Fuck off 1400
2/01/2008 05:14:00 PM
WONDERFUL. For the armed services, what about CPD?
Anonymous said...
If Hiram is such a great boss, why does he put up with the likes of Maria Maher. He is her boss after all!
EXACTLY! So much is blamed on MM yet he is HER boss, AGAIN I must ask...Why (Substantially) is he a good boss in YOUR opinion?
Anonymous said...
i worked for grau in 14. nice guy, good boss. never got in our way. he'd just tell us what he needed and asked what we needed from him to accomplish it.
For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
You have got to be kidding. Stay off the blog alvarez-pena and go wash out you boss' pantyhose.
HG is a great choice, we can all breathe a little easier. He was always a great copper and a gentleman, I had the pleasure of working with him in 760. I never worked with his sister C, however every one I know who did said she was a great boss who took care of her people. C is good people don't judge her by a few comments. Congrats Hiram, I/F love!!!
He is FAIR and a gentleman. He was one of the best bosses I've worked for. I am a no clout P.O. but he always took time and said "hello" and asked how I was when I worked for him.
Very few bosses ever displayed anything close to that level of civility when I worked for any of them. Most didn't give a shit about their PO's under them, instead only caring about THEMSELVES and their careers!
That's a fact!
Grau is GOOD people!
2/01/2008 08:49:00 PM
So let me see if I understand you, if I were your boss and said Howdy, How ya doin...every blue moon you would think I'm aces. Thanks ACE.
35 year retiree. I never met Grau, really never had any contact with ny bosses other than Hanhardt, was a dick for a million years, and I stayed lower tah a snakes balls in a wagon rut. Grau is a Nam vet? has a Silver Star? He's a gentleman and he is good to cops? well God bless you Hiram Grau, and same to Jody, give it a break guys, quit the name calling and see what they do first.
I an a little cfoncerned about you Jody. You want no more stealing, lying,beatings, thank God im gone!
I miss the days of the courtesy duce. One more thing, patrol does run it, patrol is what its all about. I walked tall and wide in that uniform. I keep the police in my prayers.
All of the exempts are puppets on a string. Do you really think that whoever gets the spot is going to give a shit about us? They sold their souls to the devil (Daley) when they put on that gold star. Quit fooling yourselves. They do as they're told, like it or not.
Anonymous said... Congrats First Deputy Grau. A great choice. A cop at heart. For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
Hi Maria, you do hold grudges for you and your husband. Stop lying to people.
**NOBODY should have to scream at people to get their message across. We're not kids. She's a poor manager walking around without a clue!
I agree however thats the norm on this filthy cesspool of a job. during my 27 years I have been screamed at continually yet I always take the highroad and softly asked why they are screaming? Most of the time their face becomes red and they proclame I'm not Screaming, then I just say. "oh you think so".
Oookaaayyy, if Chief Maher is so loyal to her "troops", why is she always raiding the areas for manpower for bullshit units that produce no useful purpose other than to hide detectives? Why doesn't she visit her "troops" in the field, i.e. at the "mandatory" roll calls, and tell them what a great job they're doing? Why does she harp on stupid shit, like late lists and ignore the important stuff, like why the number of cases closed by arrest is plummeting? Why is Darrin O'Brein still running felony review? Why is it when the rules change, like governing treatment of witnesses, does she fail to make any changes that would benefit the D unit, like get cooperation from Felony Review to get witness statements in a timely manner? Why doesn't she pursue perjury charges on un-cooperative witnesses who change their testimony? Why is the southside continually beat up -with spiraling crime and less and less manpower and equipment? Oh, fuck it. Who cares anyway.Bartender!!!Get me another.
Great response, 8:26am, now I dont have to answer that guy;cant say it any better. That poor depressed drunken slob devalued everything he and his friends fought and died for...
Shame on you son! No respect Why is he a Drunk? you most have guilt,He was asking you to Question the government. Have a little respect for someone who has been there done that.The only one who has devalued the 57 thousand dead men and women is you. SHAME
Why are you ripping on a vietnam veteran? Any veteran, from any war, is allowed their opinion on any military topic without ridicule from anyone. Any veteran whose life was in danger deserves that respect. You need to read some history books on the vietnam war. I will suggest one. It's called "Odyssey of an American Warrior" by Col. David H. Hackworth. The colonel did multiple tours in vietnam and was the most decorated living soldier until he died of cancer in May 2006. He got the cancer from the agent orange they sprayed all over the place.
2/02/2008 09:49:00 AM
Very well stated,Bravo!!!
Colonel David Hackworth USA also wrote the book on low intensity,"insurgency" warfare.
God Bless all of our veterans and servicemen/women!
Vote for Ron Paul on Tuesday.
US service personnel have contributed more money to Congressman Ron Paul than any other candidate.
I'm the author of 9:49 AM and I made some errors in the paragraph. The colonel's book is called "About Face: The Odyssey of an American Warrior". He died in May 2005 and got the cancer from agent blue a close relative to agent orange. Sorry for the mistakes.
. . . Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about. And, even if this is her (it isn't) what does that have to do with Hiram? We are all supposed to be adults and cannot control another person or what they do. If you have a problem with "C", blame her - not Hiram. 2/02/2008 08:05:00 AM ################################## Oh, its her alright! Came back to work after 10 yrs of disability and whammo = promoted to Sgt.!!!!! Sent to O'Hare. Talk about neoptism!
2/02/2008 09:41:00 AM
Talk about being full of shit. You don't know a damn thing, she was in a fight with an offender who ended up breaking her right hand she had at least two surgeries and lost most or some of her ability to utilize her hand for shooting hence disability. and by the way dumbf@#@ she was a SGT AT THE TIME THIS HAPPENED oh wait this means she actually was the "working" police and a Sgt at the time. don't say shit unless you know at least some of the facts "C" was/is always fair and is a worker. and if HG wants to help her (by the way no she did NOT take the Lts test idiot) he should they are FAMILY!!
Anonymous said... Jim Hickey a good choice? You've got to be kidding! He single handedly screwed up the det exam in 1989 and is a blithering idiot with a mail order PHD. Lousy boss, lousy person and a stone cold liar. He doesn't deserve to be a garage truck driver. 2/01/2008 07:29:00 PM
So you failed the dick test did ya lad... Must be tough walking out your door each morning, knowing most of the people will will come in contact with are sharper than you. SO SAD!
"I can name a dozen dicks at A/4 alone who could run the Chicago Police Department in their sleep better than Starks, Cuello, Maher, Avila, or the other affirmative action hires could."
Yeah, and we all got to see firsthand how Cline's "old friend" Det. Cronin made a shambles out of Gang Intel, and later, NAGIS as a "merit promotion" from Det. to Cmdr. to Deputy Chief. If he's an example of the "brillant Detectives" who can do such a great job stepping up to the exempt plate, NO THANKS. I'd rather take my chances with a boss who's had some supervisory experience, along with something higher than a GED. An ability to speak to the peons wouldn't hurt either.
Anonymous said... The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!
If you truly believe Iraq is the right war at the right time,enlist in the Army or Marine Corps and tell them you want to be in the infantry.
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Does anyone know what happened at the HBT incident last nite?
I heard they shot and killed dude and coppers are ok.
Tomorrow morning will be a defining moment for all of us. We cannot overemphasize this fact.
WILL PUNXSUTAWNEY PHIL SEE HIS SHADOW?
(Yawn) I'm going back to bed.
Grau as First !!!
So far, so good Jodi!
He is next in command stupid, he should be in charge! I hope he gets it, not because he is Latino or anything like that, because he is a stand up boss and knows how to run this department. He is not my clout, I only know him from my dealings with him over the years. By the way, I am black and proud of it, and I happen to respect any descent person especially a descent boss, they are truly hard to find.
It just shows out of touch the new guy is that he needs to name an acting day-to-day head of operations.
I'd appreciate a short bio on Grau.
And is this good or bad?
WooHooo!
Congradulations Hiram !
Congradulations US !
Thank you Jody (mayor)
Check this out before you vote for State's Attorney...make sure you watch from beginning.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/video/?slug=chi-editorialboard-wn
I think hat is the whole link
Tribune debate video
I only says ACTING. Everything is subject to change.
I hope it stays this way because HG is not only a good boss but a gentleman to boot.
Signed ,
Someone who used to work for him.
WILL SEISER RUN FOR MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY?
¿Hiram Grau? I glad to see their promoting A-Rab/Americans on this job!!!
There will be tears and cheers in WhoVille today...........
that was a good start.
Good job SWAT.
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Chicago police fatally shoot man at motel
By Dan P. Blake | Tribune reporter
5:26 AM CST, February 1, 2008
A 49-year-old man was shot and killed by Chicago police at a South Side motel overnight, officials said.
The shooting occurred around 12:30 a.m. after Hostage and Barricade Team officers were called to the motel in the 9100 block of South Stony Island Avenue, said Ilana Rosenzweig, chief of the Independent Police Review Authority.
Beat officers first arrived on the scene around 9:30 p.m. and then called the HBT officers, Rosenzweig said, but added that the reason why police were called to the motel and what led up to the fatal shooting is under investigation. She said a gun was found at the scene.
"An investigation will go into who's weapon that was and how it arrived at the scene, and we'll go through the entire process that led up to the shooting," Rosenzweig said.
The man, identified as Philmore Wilkins, of the 9300 block of South Kingston Avenue, was pronounced dead at 1:18 a.m. Friday at Stroger Hospital, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office. He appeared to have been shot multiple times.
Rosenzweig said three HBT officers fired their weapons during the incident, but it was not clear how many hit the man.
She said no one else was hurt during the incident, but could not provide further details.
"All that needs to be confirmed by gathering the 911 tapes to determine exactly what the 911 call was about,"
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER DR. CHILTON FROM SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? (THE EVIL DR WHO RAN THE JAIL WHERE LECTOR WAS JAILED)IS IT JUST ME OR DOES J-FED LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HIM?
THE SWIPING ORDER IS SHIT CANNED AS OF TODAY.
JODY YOU ARE THE MAN.
Off topic: Iragi insurgents sponsored by Al Qaida used mentally disabled women as suicide bombers killing upwards of seventy persons in a crowded market. This is at least the second time insurgents have used the disabled to commit bombings. In 2005 insurgents used a seven year old girl with Down Syndrome as a suicide bomber.
The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!
After looking at change order Grau was a good choice for 1st deputy! At least he knows how to be the police, but now will he be city halls puppet like the rest? Lets hope not!
Grau has always been a boss who notices the worker bee -unlike Charlie "Chumpie" Williams. This is the 2nd good appointment choice by the big J.
The first being Jim Hickey to R&D post, a smart head and was the real deal police in his earlier career.
Two for two by the new boss - so far so good!
What is with the acting 1st deputy, why not just make him 1st deputy or is J-Fed planning on a Fed taking the position shortly.
'BILL & TED SAY' THIS IS A MOST EXCELLENT CHOICE, YOUR ROYAL FED- STER PEACE BABY I WOULD HAVE PICKED MO BIGGGAINS
Klines guys and gals are now safe.
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
Many worse choices out there. Hang in there Hiram.
So will I ever have to sit through another streamin' video with Charlie Williams?
Already a great move and a morale lifter!
A coppers cop! Finally some good bosses!
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AKA ( BLOND GOOF )
AKA ( DANGEROUS TO A BLUE SHIRT )
AKA ( HOLY FUCK YOU GOT CAPT )
AKA ( MOTHER OF GOOFS )
AKA ( MICRO MANAGER ELITE )
AKA ( ANOTHER POLITICAL HACK )
OF THEE FIGHTIN 017 !!!
GUESS YOUR FAMILY CONNECTIONS AIN'T HELPIN YO !!!
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HAY JAG BAG DO THE WORLD AN ACT OF KINDNESS. PULL THE PLUG YOU USELESS FORMER INSPECTOR RAT AND TAKE THAT TOOL ( BIG-BIRD ) MCMAHON
WITH YOU !!!!!
HG is a great boss and leader...stand up man!!!
Merit , merit, merit.
hIRAM gRAU, hIRAM wALKER, cAPTAIN mORGAN;
Same brew, different bottle.
Belly up to the bar boys and girls!
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
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great choice to me....you have no clue what your talking about grau is a great guy and a better boss... J-fed.. good choices so far.. maybe this guy isnt so f'n bad afterall
Grau, Viet Nam combat veteran, Army special forces, silver star awardee.
Fuck off 1400
Grau is a good boss, and a good police officer because of the man he was before he came on this job. You sir were a piece of shit before you came on this job, are a piece of shit now, and will be a piece of shit when you leave this department. I feel for you children and family.
Stupid? Learn how to spell, moron;
Before you criticize. CPS Grad?
Grau is one of the better bosses I have ever dealt with on this job.
To say he is where he is because of "Merit-(Chicago-Style) is just plain wrong. WTG Hiram.
Grau is a way better choice then Williams. Williams was just waiting to get in that spot and really start burning people. maybe even set them on fire himself with a can of gasoloine!!!!CONGRATS Grau and to bad for mr Williams, but good for us! maybe there is hope for the troops......maybe. or maybe this may be some double cross like in the movies and before you know it we are really doomed. time will tell. signed.... THE RIDDLER
Anonymous said...
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
You couldn't be more wrong. if you knew him as a tact guy you'd know he was a working copper who put a lot of bad guys in jail. He earned every rank. He is exactly the kind of leader we need as 1st Deputy at this point in time. Hopefully this will be permanent
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
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Hey nitwit. You wouldn't know a policeman if he hit you in the head. Hiram Grau is a good guy who cares about the people on this job, not just those who work directly under him. He is a mans man who proved up on battlefields while you were still in short pants. STFU about things you don't know about. Whats the matter, your clout on the way out? You are a spineless prick to throw out that race shit. I hope that he gets it permanently. It would be good for the whole department, even assholes like you.
As has been said before-go get your shine
box.
Patrol Runs It.
Anonymous said...
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
Bullshit. Are you that full of hate against latinos? That man is qualified. Name one other exempt that is qualified? All of them are absolutely clout heavy. Grau is a class act, educated and has respect of his crew and officers on the street. He actually cares for welfare of officers. Really, wake up and thin you idiot.
hIRAM gRAU, hIRAM wALKER, cAPTAIN mORGAN;
Same brew, different bottle.
Belly up to the bar boys and girls
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LOL!!
Klines guys and gals are now safe.
2/01/2008 01:36:00 PM
You would think that since Phil Cline was our Supt. for 4 years, you would know how to spell his last name.
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
2/01/2008 02:00:00 PM
You can't be serious! Grau is a stand up guy and a boss that gets shit done. Just ask anyone. And I don't mean the skinhead sitting next to you at the bar either.
Merit , merit, merit.
2/01/2008 03:41:00 PM
You are a Moron, moron, moron
Whoever the hell called Hiram a Arab is a dumbass! If you knew this man he is hispanic, and a prince of a man and copper. He still remembers what is was like in a blue shirt and sticks up for us. Anyone who has a problem with him should schedual a meet with him and put your beef in. If he dont tell you where you can shove it, make a post and I will direct you to me and I will!!
The only negative thing I know of that H. Grau did was to merit promote a few people who have no business being det then sgt. (can you say double-merit?) It was no secret tha H.Grau was the guy who put them in. The one I know hardly shows up for work and supervises from his phone at home in bed then comes in and does his 2hours at work surfing the net. Perhaps he REALLY doesn't know this person he put in for promotion, who knows, and perhaps did it as a favor for someone else. In fact, if Hiram knew what this guy does, he would be VERY embarassed. That's just one thing that is a no-win, morale buster in this dept. Super JW, PLEASE scrap the merit process until you can come up with some better "merit" system, which I highly doubt can be done, since merit=clout=any possible unqualified goof. Good luck to our new super and 1st deputy.
Phat phil sighting! Just drove by fatty's house and saw him shoveling the snow! NOT!!! LOL
Way to go Hiram! Grau worked for/with J-Fed when J-Fed was the ASAC in charge of the violent crimes division and Grau was on the Gang Task Force. Not a fan of J-Fed, however this is a most excellent choice. Grau knows his shit and is a good man to boot.
Jim Hickey a good choice?
You've got to be kidding! He single handedly screwed up the det exam in 1989 and is a blithering idiot with a mail order PHD.
Lousy boss, lousy person and a stone cold liar.
He doesn't deserve to be a garage truck driver.
If Hiram is such a great boss, why does he put up with the likes of Maria Maher. He is her boss after all! The truth is that Grau is 100% affirmative action, he is the result of racial quotas on this job. He may be a nice man but he is still little Luis Gutierrez's political operative in the department. Never passed a test and never had too!
I worked for him when he was commander of the 14th dist. He wasn't an ass hole like Velez.yet he was a company man. Understand something they all are when push comes to shove. You don't get a that a boy because you treat others decent. Your suppose to.
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER DR. CHILTON FROM SILENCE OF THE LAMBS? (THE EVIL DR WHO RAN THE JAIL WHERE LECTOR WAS JAILED)IS IT JUST ME OR DOES J-FED LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HIM?
He look like him.
will this order be recinded too, J-Fed ?
Farrell for Chief of D's or southside "D" Unit Commander. A waste of his talents in Patrol. Should be out where it's the busiest and most violent. He knows more about what it takes to command "D" Units than ANYONE on this Job, Period...A2, A1, anywhere, we need him.
Wasn't Grau's sister "C" collecting disability for years? All of a sudden she is cured and at O'hare as a Sgt? Any truth to this?
"An investigation will go into who's weapon that was and how it arrived at the scene, and we'll go through the entire process that led up to the shooting," Rosenzweig said.
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Cmon lady!! Dude bought it at Chuck's, clear not reg.
i worked for grau in 14. nice guy, good boss. never got in our way. he'd just tell us what he needed and asked what we needed from him to accomplish it. it was a sad day in 014 when he was promoted up and maher became our commander. she is a micromanager like you wouldn't believe. always getting in the way, telling everyone what to do, how to do it, etc... then she'd yell at you afterward. she was always concerned about her image and placated the locals.
great choice to me....you have no clue what your talking about grau is a great guy and a better boss... J-fed.. good choices so far.. maybe this guy isnt so f'n bad afterall
Understand! he told Daley what he wanted to hear at the last interview Grau wants to leave with a big pension they all want to tap in for large green. Think about it.
What the fuck kind of name is that? Does that guy run a micr-brewery?
HIRAM IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR 1st Deputy.
He is FAIR and a gentleman. He was one of the best bosses I've worked for. I am a no clout P.O. but he always took time and said "hello" and asked how I was when I worked for him.
Very few bosses ever displayed anything close to that level of civility when I worked for any of them. Most didn't give a shit about their PO's under them, instead only caring about THEMSELVES and their careers!
That's a fact!
Grau is GOOD people!
To: 1400 hours
I would hope that you are not a police officer. If you are, you are a disgrace to this Department. The time has passed when people were judged by the color of their skin or ethnicity. There are excellent bosses in this Department from all races and ethnic backgrounds (granted, maybe not enough). People like you no longer should be part of our Police Department.
Tremendous choice! Hiram's a great person that really cares about the average cop. He's never forgotten where he came from. A stand up guy. Congratulations Hiram!
Congrats First Deputy Grau. A great choice. A cop at heart. For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
Wasn't Grau's sister "C" collecting disability for years? All of a sudden she is cured and at O'hare as a Sgt? Any truth to this?
Oh my god, was she the one who worked in the office on the 2nd floor in 14th dist hiding as she had some spinal problem all the while he was trying to keep her on the books. I have to say she was really bad unable to even walk up the stairs without assistance. I was wondering who her clout was, as at that time she only had maybe 3 years. What the fuck.
The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!
I'm a Viet Nam veteran I spent all my service time there in the DMZ zone. I'm very lucky to be alive. Many of my friends didn't make it home. That said, as a young man I was very naive and believed I was there for all the right reasons. Yet as I now know (lies from our government)Every day I'm sickened thinking about what is now happening in Iraq a war for NO reason (oil) IRAQ did not Attack the USA. I love this Country and as I see it we show we love this Country when we as Americans Question the government. Those of you who will be going to the DC area in May for police week do me a favor and stop by the Viet Nam wall and say hello to some of my friends over 57thousand names then tell me what they died for. We hit back for 9-11 that was Afghanistan. Please take care of our soldiers bring them home. be safe
2/01
8:12pm
Yeah she was cured and came off of disability to take the Lt's test. Now that is a fact. Then when Daley made the Fed the Supt she was spotted at the last retirement seminar because it looked like her brother wasn't gonna get her made Lt. Well this is Chicago and all that has changed look for her to get promoted and then retire after her time so we can lose more pension money. Hiram may be a good guy but don't ever think his sister ever did a minute of police work although years ago she was Joe Delopez's secretary and translator in 014 because Joe was a "fake" Hispanic. Remember it is all legit!
Grau is there because he is the highest rank below first dep. Dont read into it.
Understand! he told Daley what he wanted to hear at the last interview Grau wants to leave with a big pension they all want to tap in for large green. Think about it.
2/01/2008 08:24:00 PM
I'm sure that would never ever cross your mind..you wouldn't think of saying something that would bring about all that fortune..right.
who is jim hickey?
To 2/01/2008 10:07:00 PM:
She might be loyal, but she is also a dingbat.
The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!
2/01/2008 12:25:00 PM
Are you brain damaged? You must've forgot that McCain voted against funding for the Iraq war twice before finally voting for it the third time.
Get your facts straight fuck face. Vote for McCain and be doomed.
FOR THE MOST PART, I GET A REAL HOOT FROM THIS BLOG. MY HUSBAND IS A POLICE OFFICER AND A REGULAR READER OF THIS BLOG. HE HAS REALLY BEEN DEPRESSED LATELY BECAUSE HIS BOSSES KEEP RUNNING INTERFERENCE WITH HIM DOING HIS JOB. GANGS, DRUGS AND GUNS RUN HAND AND HAND, ASK ANYBODY POLICE OFFICER. SO WHY ARE HIS BOSSES HAVING CONTINUOUS BRAIN FARTS WITH ACCEPTING THIS SIMPLE AND OBVIOUS CONCEPT?
I wanted STARKS so he can wear his blue tooth and promote people with a GED, LOL
"The time has passed when people were judged by the color of their skin or ethnicity."
Are you naive, stupid or a minority pretending racist is ok as long as it is against white males?
She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion.
ARE YOU CRAZY!!!! "She doesn't hold grudges... She's a great boss""" Ya right!!!
"Jim Hickey a good choice?
You've got to be kidding! He single handedly screwed up the det exam in 1989 and is a blithering idiot with a mail order PHD."
LOL!!!!! He actually told people???
STILL NOT CONVINCED J-FED IS THE GUY....Time will tell.
"Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her."
No you 're a Suckass Company Punk, Who doesn't have a spine. you'll crash& burn after she leaves& come back to the area w/ your tail between your legz looking for a new bosses ass to kiss.
¿Hiram Grau? I glad to see their promoting A-Rab/Americans on this job!!!
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MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gee, I wonder who picked him. Just another Latino that would be a bus boy in a restaurant if it was'nt for affirmative action. Give me a break!
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So obviously you don't know anything about Hiram Grau. Unless you know what you are talking about don't bother.
If you THINK you know what you are talking about, give examples of why Grau was not a great choice. Or perhaps your comments was made because he isn't your "call."
Wasn't Grau's sister "C" collecting disability for years? All of a sudden she is cured and at O'hare as a Sgt? Any truth to this?
Oh my god, was she the one who worked in the office on the 2nd floor in 14th dist hiding as she had some spinal problem all the while he was trying to keep her on the books. I have to say she was really bad unable to even walk up the stairs without assistance. I was wondering who her clout was, as at that time she only had maybe 3 years. What the fuck.
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Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about. And, even if this is her (it isn't) what does that have to do with Hiram? We are all supposed to be adults and cannot control another person or what they do. If you have a problem with "C", blame her - not Hiram.
Hickey is a really nice guy and probably really good at what he does, but please don't try to say he was ever the police. He came on in the 70's, married to the daughter of a U.S. congressman (Murphy?) and wanted to work the street, but the powers to be were told to keep him out of harms way. He went right to the desk in 007 and then had inside jobs the rest of his career. Then retired to be rehired in the exact same job, salary on top of pension. He's clout. But, like I say, a nice guy, defintely not the police.
I'm a Viet Nam veteran I spent all my service time there in the DMZ zone. I'm very lucky to be alive. Many of my friends didn't make it home. That said, as a young man I was very naive and believed I was there for all the right reasons. Yet as I now know (lies from our government)Every day I'm sickened thinking about what is now happening in Iraq a war for NO reason (oil) IRAQ did not Attack the USA. I love this Country and as I see it we show we love this Country when we as Americans Question the government. Those of you who will be going to the DC area in May for police week do me a favor and stop by the Viet Nam wall and say hello to some of my friends over 57thousand names then tell me what they died for. We hit back for 9-11 that was Afghanistan. Please take care of our soldiers bring them home. be safe
2/01/2008 10:49:00 PM
You were there for the right reason. To keep Communism from sreading. Have you forgotten hom many people the Communists butchered AFTER we pulled out? Make no mistake about it. IT WAS DEMOCRATS, HOLLYWOOD, ACADEMIA AND THE MEDIA that lost the Viet Nam war. HISTORY IS REPEATING ITSELF. You have fallen for the Liberal/Socialist dogma of the Democrats AGAIN! If Iraq was not a problem how do you explain Al Qaida fighting so fiercly to keep it? Hitler didn't attack the U.S. either, should we have just minded our own business there too? YOU SOUND LIKE MICHAEL MOORE PARROTING THE DEMOCRATS PLATFORM. Try another blog TROLL!
Anonymous said...
Congrats First Deputy Grau. A great choice. A cop at heart. For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
2/01/2008 10:07:00 PM
That's very nice Maria! Why didn't you just sign your name to it?
She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over.
**NOBODY should have to scream at people to get their message across. We're not kids.
She's a poor manager walking around without a clue!
All of the exempts are puppets on a string. Do you really think that whoever gets the spot is going to give a shit about us? They sold their souls to the devil (Daley) when they put on that gold star. Quit fooling yourselves. They do as they're told, like it or not.
why are some hammering Grau for taking care of his sister? wouldn't you do the same if you were in that position? let's keep it real!
the only thing I know about Grau is he talked to us for a hour in the academy and reminded us that the troops are important and we need to do as much as possible to help them thru our experience. Also he is the only exempt, that I know of, that sent out a congratulations on our promotion that was hand signed. Yes he was the highest ranking member of the dept. after Dana left, but let's not do what the bosses in the past have done, Guilty until proven innocent.
"Hickey is a really nice guy "
You obviously never worked for him. He is small minded and an intellectual midget. Afraid of his own shadow and cannot do anything in a straight forward way.
Probably the sneakiest backstabbing creep on the department.
He's worked in personnel ERS and approved a P.O. to go to chiropractor school-give me a frick'n break! How is that related to police work?
He's clout, he's beholden to his 'people' and is a puppet at their whim. He's got no foresight or vision and certainly is not pro-police or pro forward movement. Having him head R & D will set us in concrete, never to move forward until he blessedly retires.
"2/01
8:12pm
Yeah she was cured and came off of disability to take the Lt's test. Now that is a fact. Then when Daley made the Fed the Supt she was spotted at the last retirement seminar because it looked like her brother wasn't gonna get her made Lt. Well this is Chicago and all that has changed look for her to get promoted and then retire after her time so we can lose more pension money. Hiram may be a good guy but don't ever think his sister ever did a minute of police work although years ago she was Joe Delopez's secretary and translator in 014 because Joe was a "fake" Hispanic. Remember it is all legit!"
If you were my brother and I was a boss..I could not or would not do the same for you..it just wouldn't be right..how could I ..what would mommy or all the other P.O.'s say ? GFY !!
Fact: she was legitimately injured, HG had nothing whatsoever to do with her time, career or pending retirement. This may come as a shock to you but there really are people out there that are ...get ready now.... MORE inteligent than you..and in some cases..so are thier siblings.
That is why stupid..we cannot be brothers.
She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over.
**NOBODY should have to scream at people to get their message across. We're not kids.
She's a poor manager walking around without a clue!
2/02/2008 08:43:00 AM
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THEN QUITE ACTING LIKE A KID AND YOU WON'T BE TREATED LIKE ONE!
. . . Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about. And, even if this is her (it isn't) what does that have to do with Hiram? We are all supposed to be adults and cannot control another person or what they do. If you have a problem with "C", blame her - not Hiram.
2/02/2008 08:05:00 AM
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Oh, its her alright! Came back to work after 10 yrs of disability and whammo = promoted to Sgt.!!!!!
Sent to O'Hare.
Talk about neoptism!
To 8:26AM
Why are you ripping on a vietnam veteran? Any veteran, from any war, is allowed their opinion on any military topic without ridicule from anyone. Any veteran whose life was in danger deserves that respect.
You need to read some history books on the vietnam war. I will suggest one. It's called "Odyssey of an American Warrior" by Col. David H. Hackworth. The colonel did multiple tours in vietnam and was the most decorated living soldier until he died of cancer in May 2006. He got the cancer from the agent orange they sprayed all over the place.
Great response, 8:26am, now I dont have to answer that guy;cant say it any better.
That poor depressed drunken slob devalued everything he and his friends fought and died for...
Anonymous said...
Wasn't Grau's sister "C" collecting disability for years? All of a sudden she is cured and at O'hare as a Sgt? Any truth to this?
His sister is not controlled by him. She is her own person. I could name 200 officers absolutely abusing the disability roll and limited duty roll. How many limited duty officers work at 35th street? Exempted from street details but still work overtime. Limited duty is used by many to hide from ths street. No own has the nerve to challenge their status. White shirts are to blame for limited/light duty. Typical white shirt behavior to ignore a huge problem. Hopefully, J-FED will look into the medical policy and light duty status.
To 2/01/2008 08:56:00 PM,
You are an asshole. I can name a dozen dicks at A/4 alone who could run the Chicago Police Department in their sleep better than Starks, Cuello, Maher, Avila, or the other affirmative action hires could. But these men won't be asked to do so because they're white males who were robbed of their promotions soley because they are white and were passed up by blacks and hispanics scoring a thousand behind them and promoted my "merit". Talk to the chief of dicks for five seconds to see what affirmative action has done to the Dept. The "time has passed" you imbecile? No, it's here and the white male is the target. You stole our promotions but you'll never steal our character, work ethic, and intelligence.
Boys and Girls in blue
don't worry about the movement
start to concentrate on our fop contract
day one and a step in the right direction!
"...who proved up on the battlefield while you were in short pants..."
I'm still in short pants.
FOR THE MOST PART, I GET A REAL HOOT FROM THIS BLOG. MY HUSBAND IS A POLICE OFFICER AND A REGULAR READER OF THIS BLOG. HE HAS REALLY BEEN DEPRESSED LATELY BECAUSE HIS BOSSES KEEP RUNNING INTERFERENCE WITH HIM DOING HIS JOB. GANGS, DRUGS AND GUNS RUN HAND AND HAND, ASK ANYBODY POLICE OFFICER. SO WHY ARE HIS BOSSES HAVING CONTINUOUS BRAIN FARTS WITH ACCEPTING THIS SIMPLE AND OBVIOUS CONCEPT?
Sounds like you Husband is telling you war stories with his own spin on them. This place is nothing but a job. He will leave yet nothing will change. Tell him your not impressed my his tough guy police work but by his love.
She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent.
Keep kiss her ass you suck hold. go back to your job of doing just that.
HG:He is not my clout, I only know him from my dealings with him over the years. By the way, I am black and proud of it, and I happen to respect any descent person especially a descent boss, they are truly hard to find.
2/01/2008 08:31:00 AM
OK,OK, we get it but I'm still waiting to find out what managerial/supervisory skills he posses that makes him the omnipotent one. He treated you like a person, GREAT, but why should he be #1?
I hope it stays this way because HG is not only a good boss but a gentleman to boot.
Signed ,
Someone who used to work for him.
2/01/2008 10:10:00 AM
Yeah but WHY is he a "GOOD BOSS?"
urizzi said...
¿Hiram Grau? I glad to see their promoting A-Rab/Americans on this job!!!
2/01/2008 11:12:00 AM
No MORON, he's a puerto rican.
H H HOLMES said...
Grau has always been a boss who notices the worker bee..
UH NO he doesn't, I know, been there since he became Dep.Supt.Inv.Serv's
HG is a great boss and leader...stand up man!!!
2/01/2008 03:40:00 PM
WHY? Please answer substantially.
Anonymous said...
Grau, Viet Nam combat veteran, Army special forces, silver star awardee.
Fuck off 1400
2/01/2008 05:14:00 PM
WONDERFUL. For the armed services, what about CPD?
Anonymous said...
If Hiram is such a great boss, why does he put up with the likes of Maria Maher. He is her boss after all!
EXACTLY! So much is blamed on MM yet he is HER boss, AGAIN I must ask...Why (Substantially) is he a good boss in YOUR opinion?
Anonymous said...
i worked for grau in 14. nice guy, good boss. never got in our way. he'd just tell us what he needed and asked what we needed from him to accomplish it.
FINALLY!
For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
You have got to be kidding. Stay off the blog alvarez-pena and go wash out you boss' pantyhose.
HG is a great choice, we can all breathe a little easier. He was always a great copper and a gentleman, I had the pleasure of working with him in 760. I never worked with his sister C, however every one I know who did said she was a great boss who took care of her people. C is good people don't judge her by a few comments. Congrats Hiram, I/F love!!!
Anonymous said...
HIRAM IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR 1st Deputy.
He is FAIR and a gentleman. He was one of the best bosses I've worked for. I am a no clout P.O. but he always took time and said "hello" and asked how I was when I worked for him.
Very few bosses ever displayed anything close to that level of civility when I worked for any of them. Most didn't give a shit about their PO's under them, instead only caring about THEMSELVES and their careers!
That's a fact!
Grau is GOOD people!
2/01/2008 08:49:00 PM
So let me see if I understand you, if I were your boss and said Howdy, How ya doin...every blue moon you would think I'm aces. Thanks ACE.
Anonymous said...
I wanted STARKS so he can wear his blue tooth and promote people with a GED, LOL
2/02/2008 02:50:00 AM
You will wish Starks was still the boss after about 6 months watch and see boys and girls!
35 year retiree. I never met Grau, really never had any contact with ny bosses other than Hanhardt, was a dick for a million years, and I stayed lower tah a snakes balls in a wagon rut. Grau is a Nam vet? has a Silver Star? He's a gentleman and he is good to cops? well God bless you Hiram Grau, and same to Jody, give it a break guys, quit the name calling and see what they do first.
I an a little cfoncerned about you Jody. You want no more stealing, lying,beatings, thank God im gone!
I miss the days of the courtesy duce. One more thing, patrol does run it, patrol is what its all about. I walked tall and wide in that uniform. I keep the police in my prayers.
All of the exempts are puppets on a string. Do you really think that whoever gets the spot is going to give a shit about us? They sold their souls to the devil (Daley) when they put on that gold star. Quit fooling yourselves. They do as they're told, like it or not.
Amen Brother
Anonymous said...
Congrats First Deputy Grau. A great choice. A cop at heart. For those brow beating Maria Maher, She may scream at you for doing something wrong, but as soon as she is done it's over. She doesn't hold grudges, just has her say. If you have any problems, she backs her people up one hundred percent. Know that from experience. All she asks is you do your job and do it right. She is a great boss and deserves to go up. And no I'm not a boss or did she get me any clout promotion. Just a lowly Dic who worked for her. She is loyal to her troops and does know her job no matter what certain people belive. She has the brains and she knows who is who. Only the dogs in the D-Unit should fear her.
Hi Maria, you do hold grudges for you and your husband. Stop lying to people.
Rumor has it that a Det. close to the Obama camp is going to be promoted to Chief Of Dicks, if he wins!!!!!
**NOBODY should have to scream at people to get their message across. We're not kids.
She's a poor manager walking around without a clue!
I agree however thats the norm on this filthy cesspool of a job. during my 27 years I have been screamed at continually yet I always take the highroad and softly asked why they are screaming? Most of the time their face becomes red and they proclame I'm not Screaming, then I just say. "oh you think so".
Oookaaayyy, if Chief Maher is so loyal to her "troops", why is she always raiding the areas for manpower for bullshit units that produce no useful purpose other than to hide detectives? Why doesn't she visit her "troops" in the field, i.e. at the "mandatory" roll calls, and tell them what a great job they're doing? Why does she harp on stupid shit, like late lists and ignore the important stuff, like why the number of cases closed by arrest is plummeting? Why is Darrin O'Brein still running felony review? Why is it when the rules change, like governing treatment of witnesses, does she fail to make any changes that would benefit the D unit, like get cooperation from Felony Review to get witness statements in a timely manner? Why doesn't she pursue perjury charges on un-cooperative witnesses who change their testimony? Why is the southside continually beat up -with spiraling crime and less and less manpower and equipment? Oh, fuck it. Who cares anyway.Bartender!!!Get me another.
Great response, 8:26am, now I dont have to answer that guy;cant say it any better.
That poor depressed drunken slob devalued everything he and his friends fought and died for...
Shame on you son! No respect Why is he a Drunk? you most have guilt,He was asking you to Question the government. Have a little respect for someone who has been there done that.The only one who has devalued the 57 thousand dead men and women is you. SHAME
Rumor has it that a Det. close to the Obama camp is going to be promoted to Chief Of Dicks, if he wins!!!!!
"CHEWIE!!"
Anonymous said...
To 8:26AM
Why are you ripping on a vietnam veteran? Any veteran, from any war, is allowed their opinion on any military topic without ridicule from anyone. Any veteran whose life was in danger deserves that respect.
You need to read some history books on the vietnam war. I will suggest one. It's called "Odyssey of an American Warrior" by Col. David H. Hackworth. The colonel did multiple tours in vietnam and was the most decorated living soldier until he died of cancer in May 2006. He got the cancer from the agent orange they sprayed all over the place.
2/02/2008 09:49:00 AM
Very well stated,Bravo!!!
Colonel David Hackworth USA also wrote the book on low intensity,"insurgency" warfare.
God Bless all of our veterans and servicemen/women!
Vote for Ron Paul on Tuesday.
US service personnel have contributed more money to Congressman Ron Paul than any other candidate.
I'm the author of 9:49 AM and I made some errors in the paragraph. The colonel's book is called "About Face: The Odyssey of an American Warrior". He died in May 2005 and got the cancer from agent blue a close relative to agent orange. Sorry for the mistakes.
A friend/supporter of the VFW
Anonymous Anonymous said...
. . . Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about. And, even if this is her (it isn't) what does that have to do with Hiram? We are all supposed to be adults and cannot control another person or what they do. If you have a problem with "C", blame her - not Hiram.
2/02/2008 08:05:00 AM
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Oh, its her alright! Came back to work after 10 yrs of disability and whammo = promoted to Sgt.!!!!!
Sent to O'Hare.
Talk about neoptism!
2/02/2008 09:41:00 AM
Talk about being full of shit. You don't know a damn thing, she was in a fight with an offender who ended up breaking her right hand she had at least two surgeries and lost most or some of her ability to utilize her hand for shooting hence disability. and by the way dumbf@#@ she was a SGT AT THE TIME THIS HAPPENED oh wait this means she actually was the "working" police and a Sgt at the time. don't say shit unless you know at least some of the facts "C" was/is always fair and is a worker. and if HG wants to help her (by the way no she did NOT take the Lts test idiot) he should they are FAMILY!!
Anonymous said...
Jim Hickey a good choice?
You've got to be kidding! He single handedly screwed up the det exam in 1989 and is a blithering idiot with a mail order PHD.
Lousy boss, lousy person and a stone cold liar.
He doesn't deserve to be a garage truck driver.
2/01/2008 07:29:00 PM
So you failed the dick test did ya lad...
Must be tough walking out your door each morning, knowing most of the people will will come in contact with are sharper than you. SO SAD!
"You stole our promotions but you'll never steal our character, work ethic, and intelligence."
If you're so goddamn smart, why the fuck are you still a dick in A/4? Answer THAT, asshat!
"I can name a dozen dicks at A/4 alone who could run the Chicago Police Department in their sleep better than Starks, Cuello, Maher, Avila, or the other affirmative action hires could."
Yeah, and we all got to see firsthand how Cline's "old friend" Det. Cronin made a shambles out of Gang Intel, and later, NAGIS as a
"merit promotion" from Det. to Cmdr. to Deputy Chief. If he's an example of the "brillant Detectives" who can do such a great job stepping up to the exempt plate, NO THANKS. I'd rather take my chances with a boss who's had some supervisory experience, along with something higher than a GED. An ability to speak to the peons wouldn't hurt either.
Anonymous said...
The Democrats have all but forgotten that nearly three-thousand people perished on 9-11, including hundreds of policemen and firemen. Any of you shemales out there still think we have no business being at war with these monters? Save yourself-Vote McCain!
If you truly believe Iraq is the right war at the right time,enlist in the Army or Marine Corps and tell them you want to be in the infantry.
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