Wednesday, March 19, 2008

US Supreme Court

Well, on the bright side, it would appear that the fundamental Right to Bear Arms will be upheld:
  • Americans have a right to own guns, Supreme Court justices declared Tuesday in a historic and lively debate that could lead to the most significant interpretation of the Second Amendment since its ratification two centuries ago.
The scope of government regulation permitted will be the key component of the US Supreme Court decision (above link to FT.com - registration may be required):
  • The most difficult question for the court is: what kind of laws can governments pass to restrict the constitutional right to keep and bear a gun?

    Chief Justice John Roberts made clear that the DC law would not meet his test as a reasonable regulation of firearms ownership. “What is reasonable about a total ban on possession of handguns?” he asked. But several other justices defended the ban as a reasonable response to the crime problem in America’s capital city.

    Mr Heller’s lawyer said the court could find that Americans have an individual right to own guns but still allow governments to regulate some types of weapons, such as machine guns, and who can own them.

The talk among Gun Rights advocates is that they are willing to settle for a partial victory permitting households to own firearms because that will give them a lever to take down New York and Chicago total handgun bans. It would also derail various bills the Cook County board is attempting to pass and give ammunition to plenty to other Gun Rights groups to challenge ill conceived rules that only serve to disarm the law abiding.

It's a start.

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132 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

IS DEBRA KIRBY RELATED TO COOK COUNTY CIRCUIT JUDGE JOHN P. KIRBY OR JUDGE MAUREEN WARD KIRBY?

3/18/2008 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, nothing is etched in stone, because dicta from the court, while informative is not yet a ruling.

Notwithstanding that, if the court rules as it appears that it will and finds an individual right to keep and bear arms within the second amendment, then this will be more than a "start." This will be a watershed event in the history of our nation and put the socialist left on their asses. Make no mistake about this and don't be taken in by the minimal coverage that mainstream media gives this. This case will be the Brown v. Board of Education of gun rights is America, the greatest nation on Earth.

3/18/2008 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That picture of ADS KIRBY in the Chicago Sun-Times made her look like an very old used up hag.
She can not be happy they used that picture. And you can tell by the dark circles and bags under her eyes that it is taking a toll on her. I haven't seen her in a few years but she couldn't of aged that much in that little of time.

3/18/2008 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will be moving to Indiana where i will be lawfully allowed to defend myself when some psycho decides to pull out his gun and start blasting everyone to pieces. Oh wait Indiana has concealed carry, the psychos would have to think twice before making a move in that state

3/18/2008 11:25:00 PM  
Anonymous gun nut said...

Debate and argue who should or
shouldn't carry on the street; yes!
Im for citizen carry, but the mentality of Chicagoans suck, and needs a couple of generations to change.
But to tell people they cant have any firearms in their houses: f*k no! The politicos who made those laws should rot in hell!

3/18/2008 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic:

So I saw the fax from the Office of the First Deputy stating that anytime a PO is SUSPECTED of being drunk on or off duty, a W/C is to be called to the scene and IAD is to be notified.

I can see of someone is doing some stupid shit and/or breaking the law in public.

What if I am tipsy at a bar and minding my own business?

What if I am drunk, at home?

Think I am going to open my door for some W/C?

I think not.

If this rule applies to us, I feel every city employee should follow suit. From CFD to Alderscum to old Daley himself.

3/18/2008 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God I cannot WAIT to see Daley's red face on the news fuming when his failed gun ban is overturned!

3/18/2008 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A great book:

"More Guns, Less Crime" by former U of C and Yale professor John Lott.

When a professor at those two flaming liberal schools finds that the armed law-abiding citizen helps deter crime, you know it must be true!

3/18/2008 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank GOD Bush's judges are there!
If we lose the White House, and
"they" change the Supreme Ct, GOD
help us...................

3/19/2008 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the statistics of states with concealed carry laws, low violent crime rates, low homicide rates, low burglary rates.

The predators among us won't be so brazen if they had a doubt whether the person they try and carjack will pull out a pistol and defend themselves.

I say let every non felon pack a piece, it will make our job easier in the long run.

About time the average person wins one at the Supreme Court.

An armed society is a polite society.

3/19/2008 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When they take our second amendment right away it will be the begining of the government taking the rest of our rights away.

Respectfully,
DW
(not a cop)

3/19/2008 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

some interesting facts from the in-service exempt training
No new Lt's until Sept., meaning no class until Nov.
New recruit class in April
No word on Sgt's or Det's, sorry.
Sgt's in the field will no longer handle CR's, they will be handled by administrative people.
Supt. is VERY adament about drinking off duty--ZERO tolerance is the word. I wonder if it will deter some new exempts from having promotional parties?

3/19/2008 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Legally speaking, if the Court finds that the right to bear arms is a fundamental individual right, then strict scrutiny applies. As such, any regulation will have to be necessary to achieve a compeling governmental interest, and will have to be the least restrictive means available to achieve that interest.

What this means is that the government will have a hard time keeping common handguns from law abiding individuals. That being said, I foresee limits for weapons such as assault weapons and sniper type rifles.

- A lawyer who knows.

3/19/2008 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A previous poster stated Sgt. Boudreau is in trouble for giving Cline a large gift (not food) what was it that the sgt. gave phil??

3/19/2008 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy Almighty Court Batman!!!

There is such a thing called Justice and the American way...as I was listening to some of the legal arguments on the radio to work today from bull shit artists trying to con the court into believing that only state militias were meant to bear arms and not really the people. What the fuck does a comma in the middle of the sentence mean? Yes! It means a separation of ideas. Yes! The State has the right to establish militias and the people have the individual right to bear arms. Does anybody remember King George of England?

Well we Got KING RICHARD here in Chicago, a retarded political inbred, who thinks he can fuck with all taxpayers along with all his mixed coalition of mindless minions. Well it ain't for me brothers and sisters. If I had to live in the neighborhoods I worked in without a gun, forget it. A gun saved my life and watch how guns will save many innocent lives. These street thugs will all start to see imagery bullseyes on their foreheads.

The tide is turning and the people will rise to the occasion. The police alone cannot protect everyone everywhere all the time. Our children will be safer in school and on the streets. Why? Because responsible and well trained citizens armed with Mr. Smith and Wesson will equal the balance between good and evil. Thank Almighty God! Thank you Lord!

Just think all you range masters out there can pick up a side job training Chicagoan's sight alignment, breathing and trigger control. J-Fed will have an opportunity to increase his community activism by allowing the police to train citizens about handgun safety at CAPS meetings. Believe me people will flock to the CAPS meetings to learn how to handle a weapon.

Hey J-Fed use some of that Allstate money to raffle off some handguns.

Hey Dana fuck your "we want to buy your shitty gun buy back program" how about a "reduce gun purchase program" for those who can't afford a great gun and some good training.

The liars and the cowards have lost this important battle.

3/19/2008 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will it mean that we will not have to "run" to gun registration on our last day and register a new handgun because we would not be able to register it after being retired?

Whatever happened with the retiree that bought a new handgun to replace an inoperable handgun and was refused at gun registration and not allowed to register the new handgun? Anybody know?

3/19/2008 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anybody catch the black and white picture of the beleaguered princess of the CPD, Debra Kirby in the Suntimes? They say US Presidents age quickly in office but she looks like a bag lady in that pic. I bet she is at the beauty shop this morning.

3/19/2008 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my prediction: the court will rule that registration requirements are okay, a total ban unconstitutional, which is the beginning of the end for the Chicago ordinance...

3/19/2008 05:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That being said, I foresee limits for weapons such as assault weapons and sniper type rifles.

- A lawyer who knows.

3/19/2008 12:42:00 AM
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What's the difference between a hunting rifle and a "sniper type rifle"?

"Law & Order SVU" isn't a documentary...

3/19/2008 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM
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I wasn't aware that convicted felons were allowed to have firearms, much less carry them.

By the way, you sound like a big Frank Collin fan.

I don't hate you. I despise you.

3/19/2008 06:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley better not look behind him, something might be gaining on him... the 2nd Amendment.

3/19/2008 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: "This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!"

In all the concealed carry states I know of, you have to qualify to get the permit. You have to pass a background check, fingerprints and take a law and safty course.

3/19/2008 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ONLY people who will be affected by this ruling are LAW ABIDING citizens.

The thugs on the streets are ALREADY convicted felons, and therefore cannot legally possess a weapon.
If they are in possession of a weapon while committing their thug crimes, again, they are in violation of the law WHICH ALREADY EXISTS.

Frankly, I don't have a problem with ANYONE walking down the street with heat provided they are a law-abiding citizen. Why would you? Do you think the gun is going to jump out of their pocket and "go off", as the media loves to say?

Know what you're talking about before you blab about how "Oh, great, now all the thugs will legally own weapons."

THANK YOU, SUPREME COURT!

-A person who believes in the Constitution

3/19/2008 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scary. scc be careful what u wish for

3/19/2008 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Pookie, Mookie, GRock and Killa have no records and there is no legal reason to deny them their 2nd Amendment rights then why would it be an issue? You know damn well that the chances of those four making it to 21 (legal age to purchase a handgun) without some disqualifying conviction or order of protection filed against them are exactly zero. Hell yes, "Thank you NRA, thank you."

3/19/2008 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just heard about the 017 Tact scandal. These guys are so stupid and the Sgt is the worst of the bunch. Embarrasing!!

3/19/2008 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM



Yeah right , How's that worked out these last ten years? Pookie will have a gun and not give a crap about registration. Yeah how's that ban on drugs going nobody can get heroin in chicago cuz its banned right

3/19/2008 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Praise The Lord,And Pass The Ammunition!

3/19/2008 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was that a picture of Debra Kirby in the Sun Times?

I could of swore that was a picture of Mother Teresa but Mother Teresa has less wrinkles.

3/19/2008 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You won't find Kirby's clout on any written record. Her clout comes from the guy she has been living with for years.

3/19/2008 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a chance the ocd prostitution indictments were held back because DEBRA KIRBY was head of OCD during this scandal? Hard for Daley and J-Fed to justify her position if those indictments come down?

3/19/2008 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I will be moving to Indiana where i will be lawfully allowed to defend myself when some psycho decides to pull out his gun and start blasting everyone to pieces. Oh wait Indiana has concealed carry, the psychos would have to think twice before making a move in that state

3/18/2008 11:25:00 PM


have fun in GARY!

3/19/2008 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

daley is always on his high horse preaching about the evils of guns...........will someone ask daley why he has two ARMED on duty chicago police officer at his residence 24/7 and a security detail consisting of ARMED police officers. if guns are so evil and bad why not give these guard mace or teach them karate?

3/19/2008 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:04 am:

You've got to be kidding me! You are telling me that if we get concealed carry (like most other states), that the gangstas are going to apply for a concealed carry permit? If so, go inside office at 35th/Mich., close the door and never come out. That will make us all feel safer.

I was inside the SCOTUS courtroom yesterday during the arguments, if only for 3 minutes, and I like to think I was part of history.

3/19/2008 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC:
I have an important request for this blog. It would greatly help things if this blog did a better job of posting information on benefits for P.O.s . it seems that there are benefits for officers in bad situations that many of us are not learning about and are therefore not attending. its hard times for cops and we got to stick together.

3/19/2008 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all gun owners..I recently purchased ammo at very reasonable price at one of the big box stores in plainfield on route 59.. I also stopped at menards, jewel and kohls while I was out there. On the ride back I even filled up the car at a cheaper price than the highest taxed county in the country. Up yours daley and toddler. No more buying in the city or county limits for me.

3/19/2008 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous TheHatisBack said...

Anonymous said...
This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM

..............

Dude,

Pookie already has a loaded gun, laws and gun bans never bothered him. Now he will have to thinks twice before trying to rob someone because they may have a gun. You can still do your pat down and since pookie has a conviction or he was doing something else illegal he cant have the gun so you lock him up and take it. Besides I would rather see pookie get smoked by a citizen with a gun then lock pookie up. I will be more then happy to do the case report.

Lets not deny the majority of this country their constitutional right to bear arms because of a small segment of society.

3/19/2008 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 304 am...nobody is talking about concealed carry...we are talking about king daley's unconstitutional handgun ban

read more carefully...pookie will still be a convicted felon..therefore should not own a gun

3/19/2008 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Semi off-topic:

Does anyone know when they will have the next 3 day course for striker fired pistols?

3/19/2008 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

!!!!CORE VALUES!!!!

IL License plate 6359146
go to City of Chicago Homepage, then Dept of Revenue site
run this plate on the ticket/red light fine portion, and put City of Chicago as the owner and guess what, it has a $100 unpaid parking ticket.

Now guess who's Ford Explorer this belongs to? CORE VALUES JODY.

3/19/2008 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM

I believe it is still against the law for a convicted felon to posess a gun even in CC states. Try and think before you post.

3/19/2008 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

- A lawyer who knows.

Thanks jack-ass!! I think we all figured that one out, and/or heard the same on the news. You lawyers are soooo bright!

3/19/2008 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

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Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa are probably convicted felons, so nothing really changes with them. They're still fair game.

3/19/2008 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Colt New Agent is one sweet compact 1911.Very slim and compact,oozes Colt quality.No,I wont be registering it in the City,"FO".

I wonder if da mayor is watching HBOs John Adams???

3/19/2008 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does this mean that their will be no more home invasions in the 009th district because handguns are going to be legal?

3/19/2008 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A previous poster stated Sgt. Boudreau is in trouble for giving Cline a large gift (not food) what was it that the sgt. gave phil??

3/19/2008 12:46:00 AM

A porkstick

3/19/2008 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM

Still dizzy from the parade i see.Carrying a gun is legal now,however just as other rights were trampled on in the past,certain sociopaths deem it illegal.

You like feeling special from the other animals dont you??

3/19/2008 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prohibition.

3/19/2008 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey anti -NRA guy, try reading the general order on street stops or the ILCS regarding UUW. It's been a while since I've read them but since apparently you never have I'll paraphrase for you. When you have reasonable suspicion that someone has, is or will commit a crime you can stop that person for questioning and pat him/her down for weapons (Terry v. Ohio?)If you find a weapon you may remove it temporarily from his person for your own protection. If your investigation reveals that no crime was committed and the weapon is not otherwise illegal the weapon will be returned to that person. If you wanna be the police, you can do your job better and not sound so idiotic if you would occasionally read the items on the reading guides for promotional exams. Who knows? Jfed may even make future promotional exams at least look legit and you might fall through the cracks. But seriously, at least a couple times a week, pick up a general order or an ILCS, spend a few minutes, read it through. It's amazing how many people with time on the job are so unfamiliar with what they really NEED to know.

3/19/2008 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!"

________________________________

Wow, typical liberal spin of the facts. Do you really think that Pookie, Mookie, & G-Rock would be able to legally carry a gun? You would still need to pass a background check, not be a convicted felon, and register the weapon. All of which the sh*theads would not do. Try to keep up with all of the big words we use Clarence and stop trying to cloud the facts. The majority of this country does not have the f**cked up gun ban like Chicago and it's doing fine. I'd bet my next check that if you weren't an armed police officer and lived on the Westside your mindset would be different. So stop blaming the NRA for all of Chicago's problems when you should be blaming Daley and the thousands of illegally armed sh*theads in this city. The old saying holds true, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

3/19/2008 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

45 SAM, please stop hoggin up zone 12, you are driving everyone nuts by talking every 30 secs- thank you

3/19/2008 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 03:04.....Nobody is suggesting we give guns to gangbangers....they will get them anyway. This liberal shithole State of Illinois will never approve concealed carry so a pat-down will still be in order. You will still have and get your Agg. UUW's. Right to bear arms here will mean lawfully in your own home protecting yourself and your family.

3/19/2008 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

interesting videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGmFj9282Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GNu7ldL1LM&feature=related

3/19/2008 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous dino said...

I have always thought that the original UUW statute in Illinois was pretty reasonable. It prohibited possession of machine guns, sawed off shotguns and sawed off rifles, as well as knives and similar weapons if they were intended to be used unlawfully. It prohobited concealed firearms on the public way. It did not have a blanked prohibition for cities and villages, and the rest that has been added over the years. Violation of all sections was a misdemeanor. If a provision for legal concealed carry was added, I would think that it would meet the tests of fairness.

3/19/2008 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM

If you are a PO, then you must have all of two days street experience or you are just as dumb as a bag of hammers. Mutts don't get to legally carry guns in any state. Read up on the laws. (By the way, Clueless, if you're going to use this blog to kiss Richie's ass, how's he gonna know who you are?)

3/19/2008 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever happened with the retiree that bought a new handgun to replace an inoperable handgun and was refused at gun registration and not allowed to register the new handgun? Anybody know?

3/19/2008 01:44:00 AM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yes I know. time to get out of this run-down, politcal-hack city, county and state. Run as fast as you can and don't look back. It will take at least 20 years to get rid of the scum that have been ruining us.

3/19/2008 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic --

Cmdr Martin 013 gave out her cell phone # to a neighborhood group. I wonder if it was so they can call her in the middle of the night to get bailed out when they are drunk and disorderly or to call her when they see her kid getting overserved...

3/19/2008 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone else see the possibility of the 'supremes' ruling that this Constitutional Right can be 'reasonably restricted' via mandatory registration?

And that the precedent being set might turn out to be the imposition of 'reasonable restrictions' being imposed upon all of our other Constitutional Rights, with the same rational of 'protecting the citizens' from those who pose a 'threat'?

With those in government being the defining authority of who poses a 'threat' and who doesn't?

You want Freedom of Speech, ya gotta register.

You want Freedom of Assembly, ya gotta register.

You want the Right to Remain Silent, ya gotta register.

You want to be Free to Choose Your Religious Beliefs, ya gotta register.

You want Freedom of Movement, ya gotta register.

You want Free Commerce, ya gotta register.

With Registration being granted or denied based on the assessment, by the government, of whether you pose a 'threat' to the nation or not.

Thus, Freedoms mutate into Privileges, said privileges granted at the discretion of those wielding government authority.

ANYTHING that requires registering with the government cannot be, by definition, a Right.

Even the Right To Vote is restricted by the registration requirement.

Registration requires Identification, which provides the means of inventorying every person who submits to registration.

Registration also provides the means to deny registration, thus denying the very Rights said registration is presented as being the means to uphold.

It always comes down to the honesty, integrity and commitment of our elected government representatives, whether of the Executive, Legislative or Judicial branches, to uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Always has and always will.

The burdens and responsibilities of a Free Nation depends upon the citizens requiring their elected officials be honest, be committed to upholding our Constitution and Bill of Rights and be the best and most ethical human beings.

The fact that we, as citizens, have substantially failed to hold ourselves to the high standards we disingenuously claim we want our elected officials to live up to, is the root cause of our elected officials being those who fall far short of these necessary ideals being achieved.

We have met the enemy and it is us.

3/19/2008 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM

Your way ahead of the game. Right to bear and carry concealed are two different topics.

3/19/2008 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my prediction: the court will rule that registration requirements are okay, a total ban unconstitutional, which is the beginning of the end for the Chicago ordinance...


SINCE WHEN DOES CHICAGO FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW?

3/19/2008 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sgt's in the field will no longer handle CR's, they will be handled by administrative people."

Great.

They went inside to get away from handling CR#'s, now they will have to go back out on the street to handle them. And some of them will have to work other than 4th watch so they can contact complainants.

Good idea, J-Fed.

An even better idea would be YOU PERSONALLY taking a stack of them and handling them yourself. Give you a chance to meet face-to-face your "customers."

And see what the beat cop deals with every single day.

3/19/2008 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm, what happens if I see the J-Fraud and think he might be drunk? Can I call anonymously and will they send a watch commander?

Somthing to think about.

3/19/2008 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Thank GOD Bush's judges are there!
If we lose the White House, and
"they" change the Supreme Ct, GOD
help us...................

3/19/2008 12:03:00 AM

"they change..." Supreme Court appointments are for life. Unless a Justice dies,retires,or is impeached they cannot be removed. Only if the number of Justices is increased can the court be altered very quickly.

3/19/2008 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 3:04 why dont you think about it. even in concealed carry states criminals are not allowed to carry or possess. there will always be agg uuw type charges for for this type of person. those that are allowed to carry are put through extensive screening. all this does is level the playing field for the law abideing taxpayer. the bad guys are already carrying concealed and this ruling will not affect them.

3/19/2008 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will chicago have to replace all the handguns they have disposed of to the people who tried to register a gun legally and then had it taken away?

And i'm speaking of the mom and pop types who tried to defend themselves and who had all the legal papers, foid, etc.?

It may cost the city lots of moola for all the guns melted away?

3/19/2008 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

will be moving to Indiana where i will be lawfully allowed to defend myself when some psycho decides to pull out his gun and start blasting everyone to pieces. Oh wait Indiana has concealed carry, the psychos would have to think twice before making a move in that state

3/18

Wait a minute!!! Indiana?? Concelaed carry for law abiding citizens, are you nuts?? Have you read about all of the wild street shootouts those gun carriers are involved in. Geez, its like Dodge City on a drunken Saturday nite. All of them gun toters just luv to shoot up the local Wal-Mart, don't you read the paper or watch CBS news?? Just stay in ChiTown where all of these gun laws will keep you safe, Da Mayor says so.

3/19/2008 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM

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Gangbaning is not gainst the law.. Mayor dufis has made guns against the law. Think about the stupidity of that

3/19/2008 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC:

22ND DISTRICT DID IT AGAIN!

EXCELLENT BURGLARY ARREST IN BEVERLY FROM 9900 S HOYNE BLOCK--GREAT JOB!

YOU ALL ROCK!

FROM A BEVERLY RESIDENT

3/19/2008 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It won't matter, home rule in Chicago over rides any ruling by the court.

3/19/2008 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I vote that we pass a law against murder; wouldn't that be a great thing? /s

3/19/2008 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC...

Today is the 6th year anniversary that we lost a brother.
P.O. Donald J. Marquez.

May God bless you my friend & your family.

3/19/2008 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All these jagoffs out here have guns---if they want them they will get them---it would be great with proper training if my 74 year old mother could carry and protect herself--just like I can and do!

3/19/2008 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger Don Gwinn said...

1. If you're patting people down without reasonable suspicion that they've done something wrong, then you're in the wrong and I don't mind that you lose that power.

2. If you're doing an "officer safety" search, then what does it matter whether the gun is legally carried or not? Legal carry won't automatically affect that. Danger is danger and armed is armed.

3. The case at hand is not going to legalize concealed carry. It might be a step toward that, but it's not going to happen as a direct result of any decision in this case.

4. UUW isn't a city ordinance, so it won't change if the city's ordinance goes dead.

3/19/2008 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC - KK FROM O'HARE AIRPORT IS OFFICIALLY DUMPED!!! SHE WAS LAST SEEN HEADING TO THE NEAREST LIQUOR STORE FOR AN EXTRA LARGE BOTTLE OF VODKA! HOPEFULLY USELeSS & STUPID SGT L.G. & PO M.M. WILL BE NEXT!

3/19/2008 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Legally speaking, if the Court finds that the right to bear arms is a fundamental individual right, then strict scrutiny applies. As such, any regulation will have to be necessary to achieve a compeling governmental interest, and will have to be the least restrictive means available to achieve that interest.

What this means is that the government will have a hard time keeping common handguns from law abiding individuals. That being said, I foresee limits for weapons such as assault weapons and sniper type rifles.

- A lawyer who knows.

3/19/2008 12:42:00 AM

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But, doesn't know enough.

The decision is expected to be narrowly decided.

The Second Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, is a restriction on FEDERAL AUTHORITY.

Over the years, the Court has incorporated some of the Amendments onto the States. Of the first eight Amendments, the second (guns), third (quarter soldiers), seventh (right to jury in civil cases), and eighth (prohibition on excessive bail) have NOT been incorported onto the states. They only apply to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

The Washington DC ban is a FEDERAL BAN on handguns.

Even if the court found the DC ban was too restrictive (which is likely), the decision would not apply to the States. The Court will not decide if the States (which includes cities, counties, etc...) can institute a handgun ban until a State ban is being reviewed.

It could be another 40 years until a State handgun ban is even before the Court.

3/19/2008 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody needs tobe arrested for the impersonating of a Police Officer.

On your time lock your gate drink in your own back yard and NEVER allow anyone who's "suspect J-fed-impaired" entry to your property.

My God the guy's a pea brain. I really think he is a victim of Alcoholic Fetal Syndrome after all.

That accounts for the crooked head and facial features as well as the bombastic crap he comes up with.

What next? CR#'s for suspect cholesterol ingestion while off duty?

Goof!

3/19/2008 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would I do to see Debra Kirby in a Supreme Justice Robe!!!!!
Wooooooooo Hoooooooooooo Court is in SESSSSSION! Baby!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I hit the LOTTO!!!!!!

3/19/2008 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Debra "Botox" Kirby was spotted at a ritzy Beverly Beauty Shop getting a new dew and al dolled up!

3/19/2008 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think it is the stress of the job that got her old, its all the drinking and smoking she does. She went from hottie to grandma in a relatively short time!

3/19/2008 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re;
Off Topic:

So I saw the fax from the Office of the First Deputy stating that anytime a PO is SUSPECTED of being drunk on or off duty, a W/C is to be called to the scene and IAD is to be notified.

_______________________________

WOW, in the old days, te W/C was always at the Watch Party anyhow. He was usually throwing the dice or gulping the booze too!

3/19/2008 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS NOT IN FOR ALL OF TRU'S OFFICERS BUT JUST FOR THE TWO WHO STOOD WITH THEIR HANDS IN THEIR POCKETS AND WATCHED FELLOW OFFICERS FIGHT A GANGBANGER ON DRUGS IN THE 010TH DIST ON TUESDAY THANKS YOUR A REAL PRIZE TO THE FORCE

3/19/2008 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""I can see of someone is doing some stupid shit and/or breaking the law in public.
What if I am tipsy at a bar and minding my own business?
What if I am drunk, at home?
Think I am going to open my door for some W/C? I think not.
If this rule applies to us, I feel every city employee should follow suit. From CFD to Alderscum to old Daley himself.""

Read the Rules of YOUR department.
they are in automated directives.
RULE 15
INTOXICATION ON OR OFF DUTY.

Thats all it says. Nothing about at a bar, at a party, in another state, in your undies in your basement, etc, etc....
Now, one may argue semantics as to what intoxicated means, but once you have a definition of intoxicated, thats the rule.

3/19/2008 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: Boudreau, the gift that he gave Cline a antique cadillac in front of everyone at HQ. Total BS as usual, it was car seized from a drug dealer and put into police service with signs on it "seized from a drug dealer" What did Boudreau dump you?

3/19/2008 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

guns don't kill people. DEMOCRATS kill people!!!

3/19/2008 06:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

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This judgement will not allow concealed carry, only the ownership of a handgun in your home.And yes, thank you NRA,thank you.

Before you type it, think about it.

3/19/2008 07:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cONCEALED CARRY WOULD PROTECT THE ORDINARY CITIZEN.
The shithead wont go thru the process.
Full Gun registration, strict enforcement and Jail for having an unregistered gun on your person.

3/19/2008 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO THE THANK YOU NRA guy If you are so worried about thge streets running red with blood maybe you should put some pressure on cook county to hand out jail time. Enforce the gun laws on the books. The fucking assult weapon ban was around for 10 years, never saw anyone charged with violating it. You get more time in the can in cook county for a dui then a pistol. Go after all the straw purchasers, but no one wants women to get time. Gangbangers dont get guns legally. If you ever locked one up and dug in to his brain you might know this instead of just walking around the station with the gun you got like its a star on your forhead for making a good hand turkey on thanksgiving.

3/19/2008 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

"IL License plate 6359146...has a $100 unpaid parking ticket.

Now guess who's Ford Explorer this belongs to? CORE VALUES JODY."

So does this mean he gets to SPAR himself or will he have a boot put on his vehicle?

3/19/2008 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because of all of the reverends, polititians, and the rantings of the liberals, left wing etc. is why I beleive sane people have a right to keep and bare arms. In this Family and Friends from the left and liar liberals.

3/19/2008 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PRAISE THE LORD !!

AND

PASS THE AMMUNITION 11

(This is an old WW1 song in case you neolibs didn't know it)

3/19/2008 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barack HUSSEIN Obama just received an endorsement from the black panther party.

Isn't that precious?

Again:

PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION !!!

3/19/2008 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are having our 9th annual block party in July.. I plan to invite the 1st deputy and JP since he is a neighbor. If either gets drunk or holds a bottle in hand it will be on U tube in minutes.. The question is, Who do I call to hook them up? Sheriff? State? Feds? Just wait until I see a boss in Springfield or DC this year consuming alcohol. You try and screw the blue shirts we will get you too.

3/19/2008 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/19, 1:44am

I'm the retiree that was denied registering a new weapon after the old one failed. We lost at the Admin. Hearing(as expected). It's been appealed to Circuit Court(odds aren't good there either). First time up was mid February and it was transferred out of Chancery to another Division. It should be coming up again soon. If we lose(as expected), next stop Appellate Court. As it stands now, you can never register anything new or used after you retire. I'll post a final disposition when I get one.

3/19/2008 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I just heard about the 017 Tact scandal. These guys are so stupid and the Sgt is the worst of the bunch. Embarrasing!!

3/19/2008 07:32:00 AM

What happened in 17th ?

3/19/2008 09:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Legally speaking, if the Court finds that the right to bear arms is a fundamental individual right, then strict scrutiny applies. As such, any regulation will have to be necessary to achieve a compeling governmental interest, and will have to be the least restrictive means available to achieve that interest.

What this means is that the government will have a hard time keeping common handguns from law abiding individuals. That being said, I foresee limits for weapons such as assault weapons and sniper type rifles."

- A lawyer who knows

Legally speaking, how can you predict that a ban on "assault weapons" or sniper rifles would past strict scrutiny when they account for a fraction of gun crime.

The last full years data from the FBI (2006- see URL below) shows that in our fair state only 4 of the 392 firearm murders were commited with rifles of any kind. If a ban on handguns , which account for 380 of these murders fails, why would a ban on any kind of long arm be sustained? Legally speaking.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_20.html

3/19/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Play rev meeks,the guy that doesnt use the N word, was all over O'Reilly and Hannity 2nite and they are connecting him to the kenyan..............

3/19/2008 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what happen to maher?

3/19/2008 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

worked the "war protest" tonight... what a joke. I mean this department, of course! I dont know how many commanders were all over the air giving out conflicting orders, confusing every one, all the while "air 1" was circling aimlessly above answering the occassional bullshit fluff question.

CPD looked goofy as usual in infinite numbers of uniform combinations...

Jody was in front leading the March almost as if he were a part of the festivities... WHEN DOES A SUPT OF POLICE TAKE PART IN A POLITICAL RALLY???

As usual, the CPD looked like a bunch of headless chickens doing whatever felt right at the moment. The ONLY professional looking crew there were the guys and gals of the Illinois State Police. They were dressed sharp head to toe riot gear (oh yeah, our riot gear? 2 miles away in the trunks of our cars) with the look of a proud, focused law enforcement officer. I by no means am faulting the average everyday blue shirt as Im sure I looked as unprofessional and goofy as the next guy... But come on! Atleast could we all wear the same damn uniform for such a public appearance? I think in typical CPD fashion there were atleast 3 orders sent out then rescinded then sent out then rescinded etc etc I see everyone is STILL afraid to make a decision.. in the end, wear what you please! So while Jody is busy seeing to it as many POs are fired as possible to please the west side revs, the REAL image that REAL people have of us continues to be that of a pack of clowns at the Barnum and Bailey circus! You could see "orders" being given via sharp whistle followed by angry hand gestures. All this technology, all these black berries, the broken down ambulance spray painted black, "air 1" and when it came time, we resorted to hand signals. Anyways, just thought you all should know that when it comes to a quasi major event, we still fall just a tad shy of a joke department... Just imagine if something real went down... 3 words CHICAGO IS FUCKED!

3/19/2008 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not know if it is right or not but I heard on the radio that the case for the right to own guns was initiated in DC because of their totally restrictive hand gun laws that were put in place a couple of years ago. They also noted that crime in DC and crimes against person were up consideratly since the guns laws were put in place. They noted that the bad people who commit crimes did not seem to be obeying the law!!

3/19/2008 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
some interesting facts from the in-service exempt training
No new Lt's until Sept., meaning no class until Nov.
New recruit class in April
No word on Sgt's or Det's, sorry.
Sgt's in the field will no longer handle CR's, they will be handled by administrative people.
Supt. is VERY adament about drinking off duty--ZERO tolerance is the word. I wonder if it will deter some new exempts from having promotional parties?

3/19/2008 12:21:00 AM

Interesting if true. They are already paying Lts. time and a half, detailing them out of the areas this last week. They are also short on Captains. By the time they make them we should be good and short. I thought that one of the major complaints in these scandals was "lack of proper supervision"?

3/19/2008 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is a banner day for law enforcement! Let's all wait, with baited breath, for that glorious day when Pookie, Mookie, G-Rock, and Killa, can all carry fully loaded weapons legally!

No really, I think this is a great step forward in personal safety and freedom.

But wait - no more pat-downs in the ghetto because the "guns" you are searching for are now legal. No more Agg UUW for bangers.

Thank you NRA, thank you.

Before you hate me, think about it.

3/19/2008 03:04:00 AM

You sir are an idiot, think about it. No I mean really, think about. The Constitution protects law abiding citizens

3/19/2008 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did 017 Tact do now???????

3/19/2008 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the post about the Sup. having a unpaid ticket?
If it is why hasnt an inspector hit him, or why not set a good example and resolve the issue?
If we get caught with that dont we get time? Just curious.

3/19/2008 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Runway Ron said...

Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC - KK FROM O'HARE AIRPORT IS OFFICIALLY DUMPED!!! SHE WAS LAST SEEN HEADING TO THE NEAREST LIQUOR STORE FOR AN EXTRA LARGE BOTTLE OF VODKA! HOPEFULLY USELeSS & STUPID SGT L.G. & PO M.M. WILL BE NEXT!

3/19/2008 03:34:00 PM

How 'bout Pitmann? is she in the clear yet?

3/19/2008 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The state police are given free thier uniforms, we have to got out and purchase from how many different dealers, so unless the city gives us the same stuff, we will appear to be a bunch of rag tags.

3/19/2008 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic:

So I saw the fax from the Office of the First Deputy stating that anytime a PO is SUSPECTED of being drunk on or off duty, a W/C is to be called to the scene and IAD is to be notified.

I can see of someone is doing some stupid shit and/or breaking the law in public.

What if I am tipsy at a bar and minding my own business?

What if I am drunk, at home?

Think I am going to open my door for some W/C?

I think not.

If this rule applies to us, I feel every city employee should follow suit. From CFD to Alderscum to old Daley himself.

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how about to the citizens, public drunk should be put as a crime on the books.

3/19/2008 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But, doesn't know enough.

The decision is expected to be narrowly decided.

The Second Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, is a restriction on FEDERAL AUTHORITY.

Over the years, the Court has incorporated some of the Amendments onto the States. Of the first eight Amendments, the second (guns), third (quarter soldiers), seventh (right to jury in civil cases), and eighth (prohibition on excessive bail) have NOT been incorported onto the states. They only apply to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

The Washington DC ban is a FEDERAL BAN on handguns.

Even if the court found the DC ban was too restrictive (which is likely), the decision would not apply to the States. The Court will not decide if the States (which includes cities, counties, etc...) can institute a handgun ban until a State ban is being reviewed.

It could be another 40 years until a State handgun ban is even before the Court.

3/19/2008 04:24:00 PM

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4:24 is right. It will likely be years before a state handgun ban is before the Court and even if the Court decides that the 2nd Amendment applys to the states, the states may still have significant power to regulate gun ownership.
For a good summary of the case and its significance see this post at Volokh Conspiracy (libertarian law blog)

3/19/2008 11:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good, I know a couple LT.s with kids in college that could use some extra cash! A P.O.

3/19/2008 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It won't matter, home rule in Chicago over rides any ruling by the court.

3/19/2008 02:21:00 PM"


The hell it does.

Let 'the city' go nose to nose in a federal class action lawsuit and see who blinks first.

3/20/2008 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/19/2008 05:00:00 PM wrote;

"WOW, in the old days, te W/C was always at the Watch Party anyhow. He was usually throwing the dice or gulping the booze too!"

ROTFLMAO !! Funny stuff & true !!


And 3/19/2008 09:01:00 PM wrote"

"I'm the retiree that was denied registering a new weapon after the old one failed."

Thank you for the update. Good luck to you. It is a sad fact that retirees residing in Chicago will never be able to register their replacement handguns.

A few mentiond going to Indiana. Well, think about the fact that Indiana taxes your pension, as does Wisconsin. If you desire to stay close to Chicago, go to southwest Michigan or stay in Illinois, as neither state will tax your pension.

The answer is, leave Chicago and Cook County, but stay in Illinois or somewhere else of your liking that does not tax your pension. If you do not realize it now, you will when you retire, but any avoidable tax on your pension can really hurt.

3/20/2008 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hears they are making Captains real soon, stayed tuned.

3/20/2008 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
THIS IS NOT IN FOR ALL OF TRU'S OFFICERS BUT JUST FOR THE TWO WHO STOOD WITH THEIR HANDS IN THEIR POCKETS AND WATCHED FELLOW OFFICERS FIGHT A GANGBANGER ON DRUGS IN THE 010TH DIST ON TUESDAY THANKS YOUR A REAL PRIZE TO THE FORCE

3/19/2008 05:20:00 PM

Shut the fuck up. If you are such a great cop where you on the ground fighting with this banger? if you were then you should of said hey give me a hand. How do you know they were not district coppers standing around. Enough said if you do not have the whole facts shut the fuck up and don't post on this public blog. Moron.

3/20/2008 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS NOT IN FOR ALL OF TRU'S OFFICERS BUT JUST FOR THE TWO WHO STOOD WITH THEIR HANDS IN THEIR POCKETS AND WATCHED FELLOW OFFICERS FIGHT A GANGBANGER ON DRUGS IN THE 010TH DIST ON TUESDAY THANKS YOUR A REAL PRIZE TO THE FORCE

Did you ever think that maybe there were enough officers involved already? TRU did help and was involved in the whole incident so STFU....

3/20/2008 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.barrettrifles.com/

3/20/2008 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: A lawyer who knows @ 12:42 AM."I foresee limits for weapons such as assault weapons and sniper type rifles." Define either of these. YOU CAN'T. Assault and weapon are two different things. One is a crime and the other is a tool. Sniper type rifle is my deer gun or, for longer range, my elk gun. You obviously are ill informed on the subject and what little you think you know was obtained from anti-gun literature from sources such as the Bradey bunch or the VPC, both of which are funded by The Joyce Foundation. If you read the oral arguments, you will find that the military weapons are PROTECTED by the 2nd amendment. Ret. CPD.

3/20/2008 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As the Black Panthers would say,power to the people. The US Constitution is the only way to go,goodbye to the fascist draconian Chicago gun laws.

3/20/2008 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you are such a great cop where you on the ground fighting with this banger? if you were then you should of said hey give me a hand."

First of all, Why the two Goofs need to be asked to help a fellow officer is beyond the pale.
Assisting in placing someone into custody SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC.

If that's too difficult to comprehend, I strongly suggest you go back to cutting hair @BoRics before you get a Officer injured or killed.

3/20/2008 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A tad off topic but germane none the less. Here's a brief explanation of the Democrat party agenda for the US on the energy crisis.

Today Barack Obama complained about gas being $3.40 a gallon in Philadelphia. That's cheap compared to purchasing it here in Moscow by Lake Michigan. He says a McCain victory would be akin to a three term Bush Presidency.

I ask one thing ole Elephant ears? When the US invaded Iraq in our national interest you liberals hollered day after day that is was all about was American control of Iraqi oil. Five years later and I don't believe we've been importing any oil from Baghdad yet. It's been over 8 years now since drilling in ANWR in northern Alaska was voted down. No drilling because Robert Redford’s Sierra Club is afraid some caribou won't be horny enough to reproduce.

Liberals always seem to have such great ideas. Well I have an idea for you Senator Obama. Go into real estate you seem to have a knack for property purchases

3/20/2008 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Memo to the first poster on this topic concerning General Counsel Debra Kirby's lineage.

I believe Deb Kirby is related to Broom Hilda and the Wicked Witch of the West. Not by marriage but she is directly descended to both.

Oh My God what a unattractive woman.

3/20/2008 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As the Black Panthers would say,power to the people. The US Constitution is the only way to go,goodbye to the fascist draconian Chicago gun laws.

3/20/2008 11:03:00 AM"

The only way this is going to happen in our lifetimes is when the Dicktocratic machine is no more.

And that ain't gonna happen any other way than through the election process, as in voting out every last cretin in city and county office.

The feds ain't gonna do it, if they were, it would have happened already.

3/21/2008 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Probably too late for this post, but for all of you who think you know it all, HELLER vs. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA is essentially the outright ban of handguns IN THE HOME and of the requirement of keeping guns locked up or dis-assembled.

Read the briefs offered by many, to include some attorney generals from some great states who know a thing or two about what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution.

Oh, by the way, we all took an oath to support and defend that same constitution.

Let's honor it, and remember all those, both blue and military members who chose to support and defend it. Some giving the ultimate sacrafice.

To all you hippy MFrs at the march, I thought I saw your younger photos from the vietnam days...you were ugly then too!

FO+D

3/21/2008 03:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for gun bans...

"When SECONDS count, the police are just MINUTES away!"

3/21/2008 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
3/19/2008 10:24:00 AM
Hey anti -NRA guy, try reading the general order on street stops or the ILCS regarding UUW. It's been a while since I've read them but since apparently you never have I'll paraphrase for you. When you have reasonable suspicion that someone has, is or will commit a crime you can stop that person for questioning and pat him/her down for weapons (Terry v. Ohio?)
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You're a little closer than the ohter guy, but still no cigar. In addition to reasonaby believing that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime you may stop and interrogate. IF you have reason to believe that he may attack you, then you may "pat down." You have to be able to articulate the reasons both for the stop, and if frisked why you were in fear of an attack. (Terry v. Ohio)

3/21/2008 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
THIS IS NOT IN FOR ALL OF TRU'S OFFICERS BUT JUST FOR THE TWO WHO STOOD WITH THEIR HANDS IN THEIR POCKETS AND WATCHED FELLOW OFFICERS FIGHT A GANGBANGER ON DRUGS IN THE 010TH DIST ON TUESDAY THANKS YOUR A REAL PRIZE TO THE FORCE

3/19/2008 05:20:00 PM

Shut the fuck up. If you are such a great cop where you on the ground fighting with this banger? if you were then you should of said hey give me a hand. How do you know they were not district coppers standing around. Enough said if you do not have the whole facts shut the fuck up and don't post on this public blog. Moron.

3/20/2008 03:31:00 AM

Gee, if I was on the ground while fighting with a banger, i shouldn't have to TELL another P.O. to give me a hand, should I? Seems like something they should figure out on their own -- whether they're from the district or an outside unit.

3/21/2008 03:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The state police are given free thier uniforms, we have to got out and purchase from how many different dealers, so unless the city gives us the same stuff, we will appear to be a bunch of rag tags.

3/19/2008 11:45:00 PM

Thats what the uniform allowance is for dumb ass, not for bills. what I don't agree with, getting taxed twice from our uniform allowance, once from the check and again from the uniform store.....

3/21/2008 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are such a great cop where you on the ground fighting with this banger? if you were then you should of said hey give me a hand.

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will whom ever wrote this please stand up? Now walk to the door and GET THE FUCK OFF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. When a fellow officer is struggling with ANYBODY you don't wait to be asked. Trust me, I'm a supervisor and if I observed you standing around while we struggle with an offender, as soon as we are done locking him up or whatever, I would write up your lazy, pussy, non police ass. And I never write up anybody for bullshit. But motherfucker, you would be swimming in paper.

Get with the program jagoff-we're all in this together.

3/21/2008 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attention Illinois Gun Owners: Your Action is Needed Today!
Stand Up and Make Your Voice Heard!

Rabid freedom-hating zealot, Cook County Commissioner Larry Suffredin
and the Cook County Board are conducting a telephone poll where callers
can voice their opinion on ordinances which would close all gun shops
as well as ban and confiscate most firearms owned by citizens of the
county.


WE MUST NOT STAND IDLE!
THE FUTURE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN COOK COUNTY
AND ILLINOIS DEPENDS ON IT!

Please take the time to call-in TODAY and make your voice heard that
you oppose these onerous attacks on our Second Amendment freedoms. You
do not have to be a resident of Cook County to vote. To vote in the
telephone poll, please call 1-312-603-6400 and select Option #1 when
prompted. At the next prompt, select Option #1, again. When prompted to
vote on the gun control ordinance, press #2. Finally, please forward this
alert to your friends, family, and fellow gun owners and urge them to
do the same.

This number works 24/7!

3/22/2008 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, I guess the days of swilling a fifth of Jack, doin' "Soulja boy" across my Lt's desk and strippin' for the boys after a good search warrant are over then?

3/22/2008 03:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ON 3/19/2008 @ 08:58:00 AM
Anonymous said...
!!!!CORE VALUES!!!!

IL License plate 6359146
go to City of Chicago Homepage, then Dept of Revenue site
run this plate on the ticket/red light fine portion, and put City of Chicago as the owner and guess what, it has a $100 unpaid parking ticket.

Now guess who's Ford Explorer this belongs to? CORE VALUES JODY.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And the ticket was written in July 2007 you moron. It may be J-Fed's ride now but whose was it then? Yours maybe?

3/22/2008 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let 'the city' go nose to nose in a federal class action lawsuit and see who blinks first.
3/20/2008 12:23:00 AM

My moneys on your one-eyed snake...

3/22/2008 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My moneys on your one-eyed snake...

3/22/2008 01:02:00 PM"


Your 'money' is ALWAYS on the 'one-eyed snake', come out of the closet already, you're not fooling anyone.

3/26/2008 01:49:00 AM  

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